[00:47] <Myrtti> bah
[00:47] <Myrtti> immediately when I op up to banforward someone to ##fix_your_connection, their connection stabilizes
[00:48] <Myrtti> nevermind then...
[01:46] <Myrtti> a bit hasty call
[01:48] <Myrtti> and gone
[06:51] <ardchoille> I'm seeing something that looks suspicious in #ubuntu, several nicks have joined from the same IP
[06:51] <ardchoille> 92.80.59.111
[06:52] <ardchoille> This method has been used in the past to bypass the floodbots
[06:52] <ardchoille> just FYI
[06:52] <Madpilot> ardchoille, they seemed to leave just as quickly?
[06:53] <ardchoille> no, xarc, 5EXAAKFMY and 31NAAK4NG are still there
[06:54] <jussi01> ardchoille: ok, we will keep an eye on it. thanks for the heads up.
[06:54] <ardchoille> Ok
[07:03] <rocket16> Hello all
[07:03] <Madpilot> hi rocket16 - need a hand?
[07:03] <rocket16> Hello Madpilot, yes a bit of
[07:03] <Madpilot> ?
[07:04] <rocket16> The Ubuntu-offtopic channel is owned by an user named AtomicSpark, who and his friends always insult newcomers there, :(
[07:05] <rocket16> He thinkg he is the leader there, :( And always tells us to get out, and insults us most badly
[07:05] <rocket16> So, I am thinking of starting a new Ubuntu Channel, a free discussion channel, where one can discuss anything.
[07:06] <rocket16> So, am I permitted to do so, I mean creating a new channel? :)
[07:06] <Madpilot> whatever AtomicSpark has been up to other days, today he's mostly been chatting about compter games...
[07:06] <Madpilot> not if it has Ubuntu in the channel name
[07:07] <rocket16> You mean, it should not have "Ubuntu" in its name? Like "Ubuntu-discussions"?
[07:08] <Madpilot> correct. On Freenode, Ubuntu has namespace rights/ownership/control over #ubuntu-<foo> channels
[07:08] <rocket16> Madpilot: I really want to be an Operator of a Channel of mine, I think I can manage it well. Thank you for your help.
[07:08] <rocket16> So, Can I name it to linux-light?
[07:09] <jussi01> rocket16: you need to go make a ##rocket16 or so.
[07:09] <jussi01> remember to use ##
[07:09] <jussi01> Hi darolu
[07:09] <rocket16> Oh, then no other names can be made? Sorry to hear that, :(
[07:10] <darolu> hi jussi01 came to report a guy in the ubuntu channel but seems someone has taken care of him/her already
[07:10] <jussi01> rocket16: you can make some others, but they need to start with ##
[07:10] <rocket16> I wanted to name it "linux-light", :(
[07:10] <jussi01> darolu: ahh, ok. thanks for trying.
[07:10] <rocket16> Oh! Thaks jussi01, thanks Madpilot.
[07:10] <rocket16> Bye all.
[07:10] <jussi01> bye
[07:10] <darolu> he/she is back though...
[07:10] <jussi01> darolu: who, and what?
[07:11] <darolu> BluShift, literally "trolling" other op is in though, thanks :)
[07:11] <jussi01> darolu: ahh, Madpilot seems to be sorting it. Anything else you need?
[07:12] <darolu> Yes Madpilot is in, thanks again jussi01 :) night!
[07:12] <Madpilot> more than enough rope. Dealt with
[07:13] <rocket16> Sorry to disturb again, but how may I popularise my new Channel? I am only one member there
[07:14] <jussi01> rocket16: you need to ask the channel owners for permission to "advertise". You cannot do this in #ubuntu-* channels.
[07:14] <Madpilot> Love the new bantracker prompt from the bot. +1 to whichever clever person coded that it.
[07:15] <rocket16> jussi01: Oh, but how may I ask them?
[07:16] <jussi01> rocket16: you dont. We dont permit advertising in our channels.
[07:16] <rocket16> jussi01: Oh, Ok. But in other channels perhaps, asking them
[07:18] <jussi01> rocket16: you would need to check with the owners of those channels. we are responsible for #kubuntu-* #ubuntu-* #xubuntu-*
[07:18] <jussi01> oh, and #ubuntuforums
[07:19] <rocket16> jussi01: Thanks, I got permissions in Wesnoth
[07:19] <jussi01> rocket16: for any further questions, I suggest ask in #freenode
[07:20] <rocket16> Thanks jussi01,
[07:30] <ikonia> why does rocket16 think atomicspark ?
[07:31] <Madpilot> no clue
[07:33] <jussi01> morning ikonia
[07:35] <ikonia> morning
[07:48] <Madpilot> night, all. Don't let the trolls bite.
[08:19] <dholbach> good morning
[08:32] <Daviey> \o
[08:46] <jussi01> morning Daviey
[08:48] <rocket16> Hello all, I created a channel, and was the operator there. But after I quit and rejoined, I am no longer the operator. What to do?
[08:49] <jussi01> rocket16: -> #freenode.
[08:50] <rocket16> O
[08:50] <rocket16> Ok
[08:52] <Daviey> hey jussi01
[08:53] <gnomefreak> morning
[09:41] <gnomefreak> i am going to make a wiki on the changes to the window buttons (how to move to the right. any idea on what i can name it for wiki and bots command name
[11:12] <gnomefreak> anyone know if i need to add a factoid to bot for 2 channels only in the channels themselves or use something like !bleh #ubuntu+1 is bleh bleh bleh
[11:13]  * gnomefreak doesnt recall the order its in
[11:16] <bazhang> thought it was !factoid-#channel
[11:16] <bazhang> ie !zomgbuttons-#ubuntu+1 is <reply> yaba daba doo
[11:17] <jussi01> gnomefreak: what bazhang said :=)
[11:18] <topyli> i fully support bazhang's factoid proposal
[11:18] <gnomefreak> ah ok thanks guys. can i use !facroid-#channel-#channel?
[11:18] <bazhang> :0
[11:18] <jussi01> gnomefreak: no
[11:19] <nhandler> gnomefreak: You can create an alias for the second channel's factoid
[11:19] <gnomefreak> ok thanks i will add the window boarder control factoid once i figure out a good name that is not in use
[11:46] <gnomefreak> umm bot didnt like the factoid i was making. it said im only a bot....  this is ubot3. not sure if when in /msg i cant use !bleh-#$ is <reply> bleh...
[11:46] <gnomefreak> oh and @whoami tells me to use @whoami
[11:46] <gnomefreak> @login
[11:46] <gnomefreak> !controls-#ubuntu+1 is <reply> in Lucid you may see that the window controls min/max/close has moved to left side of window | for more information see http://alturl.com/yvgv | to change it using terminal see http://alturl.com/x5d6.
[11:46] <gnomefreak> :) fixed it
[11:47] <gnomefreak> !controls
[11:47] <gnomefreak> !control
[11:47] <gnomefreak> damnit
[11:48] <gnomefreak> ok is alias !bleh-#$ is <alias> !$
[11:53] <gnomefreak> ok i dont recall how to use alias
[11:54] <bazhang> thought it was !xyz1 is <alias> xyz
[11:55] <bazhang> or the reverse, I forget
[11:56] <nhandler> It is !aliasfactoid is <alias> otherfactoid
[11:57] <gnomefreak> !controls-#ubuntu-mozillateam <alias> controls
[11:57] <nhandler> gnomefreak: We never got anything on the community help wiki?
[11:57] <gnomefreak> nhandler: nope so i made a temp one until i get around to make the wiki
[11:57] <gnomefreak> that alias didnt work
[11:58] <nhandler> gnomefreak: You forgot the 'is'
[11:58] <gnomefreak> !no controls-#ubuntu-mozillateam is <alias> controls
[11:58] <gnomefreak> !controls-#ubuntu-mozillateam is <alias> controls
[11:59] <nhandler> !controls-#ubuntu-mozillateam is <alias> controls-#ubuntu+1
[11:59] <nhandler> @login
[11:59] <nhandler> !controls-#ubuntu-mozillateam is <alias> controls-#ubuntu+1
[11:59] <gnomefreak> oh forgot the -#+1  but did it work
[11:59] <nhandler> !controls-#ubuntu+1
[11:59] <nhandler> !controls-#ubuntu-mozillateam
[11:59] <gnomefreak> thanks it worked
[12:00] <nhandler> The alias worked too. But you might want to fix some of the capitalization
[12:00] <gnomefreak> shouldnt it post it in here?
[12:00] <gnomefreak> nhandler: yeah once i got it done i was going to
[12:00] <nhandler> gnomefreak: I think it was restricting me from doing too many factoids too fast or something. It worked in PM
[12:01] <bazhang> works in PM gnomefreak
[12:03] <gnomefreak> !no controls-#ubuntu+1 is In Lucid you may notice that the window controls min/max/close is now on the left side. | For more information please see http://alturl.com/yvgv | To change it back to right side using a terminal please see http://alturl.com/x5d6.
[12:04] <nhandler> gnomefreak: You forget <reply>
[12:04] <nhandler> * forgot
[12:04] <gnomefreak> yeah i noticed
[12:04] <bazhang> !no controls-#ubuntu+1
[12:04] <gnomefreak> !no controls-#ubuntu+1 is <reply> In Lucid you may notice that the window controls min/max/close is now on the left side. | For more information please see http://alturl.com/yvgv | To change it back to right side using a terminal please see http://alturl.com/x5d6.
[12:05] <gnomefreak> fixed :) thanks guys
[13:59] <Gnea> hi
[14:00]  * elky nudges topyli
[14:00] <Gnea> clearly, there's been a misunderstanding here.
[14:00] <topyli> Gnea, "wtf" sounded like you did not quite understand the reason for your removal
[14:00] <topyli> not that it's apporopriate, but this is unrelated
[14:01] <Gnea> perhaps you did not understand the meaning of what I said prior to being kicked.
[14:01] <Gnea> but if it's for something else, as it was just pointed out, then please, enlighten me so that I will not repeat that mistake.
[14:01] <topyli> Gnea, you were warned about trolling, then about speaking down on continents
[14:01] <Gnea> and yet, I wasn't trolling
[14:01] <Gnea> but you claim I was
[14:02] <Gnea> so please, how was I trolling?
[14:02] <topyli> after that, suggesting willfulness of rape victims was a bit much
[14:02] <Gnea> here we have our misunderstanding, or rather, your misunderstanding of what I said.
[14:03] <elky> Gnea, do you realise that the line you used is like the single most used dismissive used on victims of said act?
[14:03] <topyli> Gnea, that's inconvenient. in the future, maybe you'd like to use less ambiguous language so that everyone understand that you're being polite?
[14:03] <Gnea> and you do realize that we really weren't talking about real 'rape' to begin with?
[14:04] <topyli> real or not, it's not a good idea to suggest that africans are willing victims
[14:05] <Gnea> the only reason I brought it up the way that I did was to point out the uselessness of having it misused in the first place
[14:05] <Gnea> I wasn't suggesting that at all.
[14:05] <Gnea> I'm sorry if you thought that I was
[14:06] <topyli> you don't need to be sorry for what i think :)
[14:06] <Gnea> good point. :)
[14:06] <Gnea> but
[14:06] <Gnea> I am sorry that I said it, and it won't happen again.
[14:06] <elky> These lettery things on my screen fail to communicate your obscure sarcasm. Could you try a more obvious approach next time?
[14:06] <topyli> Gnea, please just try and make extra sure that in the future even people like me will undeerstand what you're saying
[14:07] <Gnea> topyli: here's an idea: take the time to get to know me, rather than to jump to conclusions, and sure, no problem.
[14:08] <topyli> nope, i need to mind the channel right now, not after a period of education
[14:09] <Gnea> and this is why I avoid the -ot channel. thanks.
[14:09] <elky> Gnea, is there a cliffs notes we can offer those who haven't had the luxury of "getting...
[14:09] <elky> bleh
[14:09] <topyli> that's fine by me too
[14:10] <elky> Yeah. I can't say anything he'd want to hear right now.
[14:37] <gnomefreak> did someone take care of that?
[15:40] <ikonia> nkj ]
[15:40] <ikonia> oops
[17:47] <mc44> there's an eponymous troll in #ubuntu+1 ;(
[17:48] <jpds> He's gone.
[17:48] <mc44> jpds: thanks :3
[17:48]  * mc44 leaves before his idling breaks EVERYTHING
[17:49]  * jpds .read("tis-dialog.ru") returned: "Hi".
[17:51] <jussi01> topyli: ping
[20:04] <Myrtti> !search filesystem
[20:04] <gnomefreak> defrag for Linux?
[20:04] <Myrtti> I know there's a factoid explaining the filestructure
[20:05] <jussi01> !defrag
[20:05] <Myrtti> !search structure
[20:05] <Myrtti> !lsb
[20:05]  * Myrtti gives up
[20:05] <Myrtti> ah, !files
[20:06]  * Myrtti needs more coffee but tries to resist
[20:06] <gnomefreak> ext3 :( that is so old :)
[20:07] <Myrtti> I might and make it my project for the bugjam to go through some of the factoids and update them
[20:09] <gnomefreak> i might get to making a wiki one of these days. I have been putting it off
[20:10] <Myrtti> a wiki? hm?
[20:10] <gnomefreak> Myrtti: for the window controls
[20:11] <Myrtti> oh, ok.
[20:11] <gnomefreak> !controls-#ubuntu+1
[20:11] <gnomefreak> instead of pointing to a non-official source
[20:13] <gnomefreak> also need to learn mutt but that has been on my todolist for >1 year
[23:41] <tonyyarusso> hey topyli, do we have a factoid about how to become an operator yet?  If not I was thinking I'd make one, and link your blog post in it, along with the requirements page.
[23:44] <tonyyarusso> oh hey, we do, but it's wrong now.  *fixes*
[23:44] <tonyyarusso> @login
[23:46] <tonyyarusso> !CanIBeAnOp | Please review this new language