=== jussi01 is now known as Guest4656 [00:47] bah [00:47] immediately when I op up to banforward someone to ##fix_your_connection, their connection stabilizes [00:48] nevermind then... [01:45] eremite called the ops in #ubuntu (myrl) [01:46] a bit hasty call [01:48] and gone === mnepton is now known as mneptok === Guest4656 is now known as jussi01 [06:41] ardchoille called the ops in #ubuntu (BluShift needs a hint about etiquette) [06:51] I'm seeing something that looks suspicious in #ubuntu, several nicks have joined from the same IP [06:51] 92.80.59.111 [06:52] This method has been used in the past to bypass the floodbots [06:52] just FYI [06:52] ardchoille, they seemed to leave just as quickly? [06:53] no, xarc, 5EXAAKFMY and 31NAAK4NG are still there [06:54] ardchoille: ok, we will keep an eye on it. thanks for the heads up. [06:54] Ok [07:03] Hello all [07:03] hi rocket16 - need a hand? [07:03] Hello Madpilot, yes a bit of [07:03] ? [07:04] The Ubuntu-offtopic channel is owned by an user named AtomicSpark, who and his friends always insult newcomers there, :( [07:05] He thinkg he is the leader there, :( And always tells us to get out, and insults us most badly [07:05] So, I am thinking of starting a new Ubuntu Channel, a free discussion channel, where one can discuss anything. [07:06] So, am I permitted to do so, I mean creating a new channel? :) [07:06] whatever AtomicSpark has been up to other days, today he's mostly been chatting about compter games... [07:06] not if it has Ubuntu in the channel name [07:07] You mean, it should not have "Ubuntu" in its name? Like "Ubuntu-discussions"? [07:08] correct. On Freenode, Ubuntu has namespace rights/ownership/control over #ubuntu- channels [07:08] Madpilot: I really want to be an Operator of a Channel of mine, I think I can manage it well. Thank you for your help. [07:08] So, Can I name it to linux-light? [07:09] rocket16: you need to go make a ##rocket16 or so. [07:09] remember to use ## [07:09] Hi darolu [07:09] Oh, then no other names can be made? Sorry to hear that, :( [07:10] hi jussi01 came to report a guy in the ubuntu channel but seems someone has taken care of him/her already [07:10] rocket16: you can make some others, but they need to start with ## [07:10] I wanted to name it "linux-light", :( [07:10] darolu: ahh, ok. thanks for trying. [07:10] Oh! Thaks jussi01, thanks Madpilot. [07:10] Bye all. [07:10] bye [07:10] he/she is back though... [07:10] darolu: who, and what? [07:11] BluShift, literally "trolling" other op is in though, thanks :) [07:11] darolu: ahh, Madpilot seems to be sorting it. Anything else you need? [07:12] Yes Madpilot is in, thanks again jussi01 :) night! [07:12] more than enough rope. Dealt with [07:13] Sorry to disturb again, but how may I popularise my new Channel? I am only one member there [07:14] rocket16: you need to ask the channel owners for permission to "advertise". You cannot do this in #ubuntu-* channels. [07:14] Love the new bantracker prompt from the bot. +1 to whichever clever person coded that it. [07:15] jussi01: Oh, but how may I ask them? [07:16] rocket16: you dont. We dont permit advertising in our channels. [07:16] jussi01: Oh, Ok. But in other channels perhaps, asking them [07:18] rocket16: you would need to check with the owners of those channels. we are responsible for #kubuntu-* #ubuntu-* #xubuntu-* [07:18] oh, and #ubuntuforums [07:19] jussi01: Thanks, I got permissions in Wesnoth [07:19] rocket16: for any further questions, I suggest ask in #freenode [07:20] Thanks jussi01, [07:30] why does rocket16 think atomicspark ? [07:31] no clue [07:33] morning ikonia [07:35] morning [07:48] night, all. Don't let the trolls bite. [08:19] good morning [08:22] llutz called the ops in #ubuntu (ackt1c spamming troll) [08:32] \o [08:46] morning Daviey [08:48] Hello all, I created a channel, and was the operator there. But after I quit and rejoined, I am no longer the operator. What to do? [08:49] rocket16: -> #freenode. [08:50] O [08:50] Ok [08:52] hey jussi01 [08:53] morning [09:20] theadmin called the ops in #ubuntu (ubuntu_ swears and floods) [09:41] i am going to make a wiki on the changes to the window buttons (how to move to the right. any idea on what i can name it for wiki and bots command name === knome_ is now known as knome [11:12] anyone know if i need to add a factoid to bot for 2 channels only in the channels themselves or use something like !bleh #ubuntu+1 is bleh bleh bleh [11:13] * gnomefreak doesnt recall the order its in [11:16] thought it was !factoid-#channel [11:16] ie !zomgbuttons-#ubuntu+1 is yaba daba doo [11:17] gnomefreak: what bazhang said :=) [11:18] i fully support bazhang's factoid proposal [11:18] ah ok thanks guys. can i use !facroid-#channel-#channel? [11:18] :0 [11:18] gnomefreak: no [11:19] gnomefreak: You can create an alias for the second channel's factoid [11:19] ok thanks i will add the window boarder control factoid once i figure out a good name that is not in use [11:46] umm bot didnt like the factoid i was making. it said im only a bot.... this is ubot3. not sure if when in /msg i cant use !bleh-#$ is bleh... [11:46] oh and @whoami tells me to use @whoami [11:46] @login [11:46] The operation succeeded. [11:46] !controls-#ubuntu+1 is in Lucid you may see that the window controls min/max/close has moved to left side of window | for more information see http://alturl.com/yvgv | to change it using terminal see http://alturl.com/x5d6. [11:46] I'll remember that, gnomefreak [11:46] :) fixed it [11:47] !controls [11:47] !control [11:47] damnit [11:48] ok is alias !bleh-#$ is !$ [11:53] ok i dont recall how to use alias [11:54] thought it was !xyz1 is xyz [11:55] or the reverse, I forget [11:56] It is !aliasfactoid is otherfactoid [11:57] !controls-#ubuntu-mozillateam controls [11:57] gnomefreak: We never got anything on the community help wiki? [11:57] I'll remember that, gnomefreak [11:57] nhandler: nope so i made a temp one until i get around to make the wiki [11:57] that alias didnt work [11:58] gnomefreak: You forgot the 'is' [11:58] !no controls-#ubuntu-mozillateam is controls [11:58] I know nothing about controls-#ubuntu-mozillateam yet, gnomefreak [11:58] !controls-#ubuntu-mozillateam is controls [11:58] Factoid 'controls' does not exist [11:59] !controls-#ubuntu-mozillateam is controls-#ubuntu+1 [11:59] In #ubuntu-ops, nhandler said: !controls-#ubuntu-mozillateam is controls-#ubuntu+1 [11:59] @login [11:59] The operation succeeded. [11:59] !controls-#ubuntu-mozillateam is controls-#ubuntu+1 [11:59] oh forgot the -#+1 but did it work [11:59] !controls-#ubuntu+1 [11:59] in Lucid you may see that the window controls min/max/close has moved to left side of window | for more information see http://alturl.com/yvgv | to change it using terminal see http://alturl.com/x5d6. [11:59] !controls-#ubuntu-mozillateam [11:59] thanks it worked [12:00] The alias worked too. But you might want to fix some of the capitalization [12:00] shouldnt it post it in here? [12:00] nhandler: yeah once i got it done i was going to [12:00] gnomefreak: I think it was restricting me from doing too many factoids too fast or something. It worked in PM [12:01] works in PM gnomefreak [12:03] !no controls-#ubuntu+1 is In Lucid you may notice that the window controls min/max/close is now on the left side. | For more information please see http://alturl.com/yvgv | To change it back to right side using a terminal please see http://alturl.com/x5d6. [12:03] I'll remember that gnomefreak [12:04] gnomefreak: You forget [12:04] * forgot [12:04] yeah i noticed [12:04] !no controls-#ubuntu+1 [12:04] !no controls-#ubuntu+1 is In Lucid you may notice that the window controls min/max/close is now on the left side. | For more information please see http://alturl.com/yvgv | To change it back to right side using a terminal please see http://alturl.com/x5d6. [12:04] I'll remember that gnomefreak [12:05] fixed :) thanks guys [13:59] hi [14:00] * elky nudges topyli [14:00] clearly, there's been a misunderstanding here. [14:00] Gnea, "wtf" sounded like you did not quite understand the reason for your removal [14:00] not that it's apporopriate, but this is unrelated [14:01] perhaps you did not understand the meaning of what I said prior to being kicked. [14:01] but if it's for something else, as it was just pointed out, then please, enlighten me so that I will not repeat that mistake. [14:01] Gnea, you were warned about trolling, then about speaking down on continents [14:01] and yet, I wasn't trolling [14:01] but you claim I was [14:02] so please, how was I trolling? [14:02] after that, suggesting willfulness of rape victims was a bit much [14:02] here we have our misunderstanding, or rather, your misunderstanding of what I said. [14:03] Gnea, do you realise that the line you used is like the single most used dismissive used on victims of said act? [14:03] Gnea, that's inconvenient. in the future, maybe you'd like to use less ambiguous language so that everyone understand that you're being polite? [14:03] and you do realize that we really weren't talking about real 'rape' to begin with? [14:04] real or not, it's not a good idea to suggest that africans are willing victims [14:05] the only reason I brought it up the way that I did was to point out the uselessness of having it misused in the first place [14:05] I wasn't suggesting that at all. [14:05] I'm sorry if you thought that I was [14:06] you don't need to be sorry for what i think :) [14:06] good point. :) [14:06] but [14:06] I am sorry that I said it, and it won't happen again. [14:06] These lettery things on my screen fail to communicate your obscure sarcasm. Could you try a more obvious approach next time? [14:06] Gnea, please just try and make extra sure that in the future even people like me will undeerstand what you're saying [14:07] topyli: here's an idea: take the time to get to know me, rather than to jump to conclusions, and sure, no problem. [14:08] nope, i need to mind the channel right now, not after a period of education [14:09] and this is why I avoid the -ot channel. thanks. [14:09] Gnea, is there a cliffs notes we can offer those who haven't had the luxury of "getting... [14:09] bleh [14:09] that's fine by me too [14:10] Yeah. I can't say anything he'd want to hear right now. [14:32] theadmin called the ops in #ubuntu (avatorking abuses the bot!) [14:37] did someone take care of that? === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok [15:40] nkj ] [15:40] oops [17:47] there's an eponymous troll in #ubuntu+1 ;( [17:48] He's gone. [17:48] jpds: thanks :3 [17:48] * mc44 leaves before his idling breaks EVERYTHING [17:49] * jpds .read("tis-dialog.ru") returned: "Hi". [17:51] topyli: ping [20:04] !search filesystem [20:04] Found: files, filesystems, ext3, undelete, defrag, mount-#kubuntu, defragmentation, addingfs, the default ubuntu filesystem (ext3)*, fuse and 4 more, see http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=filesystem [20:04] defrag for Linux? [20:04] I know there's a factoid explaining the filestructure [20:05] !defrag [20:05] The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this. [20:05] !search structure [20:05] Found: dri, lsb, revu, relationship, partner [20:05] !lsb [20:05] The Linux Standard Base, or LSB, is a joint project by several Linux distributions under the organizational structure of The Free Standards Group to standardize the internal structure of Linux-based operating systems. The LSB is based on the POSIX specification, the Single UNIX Specification, and several other open standards, but extends them in certain areas. [20:05] * Myrtti gives up [20:05] ah, !files [20:06] * Myrtti needs more coffee but tries to resist [20:06] ext3 :( that is so old :) [20:07] I might and make it my project for the bugjam to go through some of the factoids and update them [20:09] i might get to making a wiki one of these days. I have been putting it off [20:10] a wiki? hm? [20:10] Myrtti: for the window controls [20:11] oh, ok. [20:11] !controls-#ubuntu+1 [20:11] In Lucid you may notice that the window controls min/max/close is now on the left side. | For more information please see http://alturl.com/yvgv | To change it back to right side using a terminal please see http://alturl.com/x5d6. [20:11] instead of pointing to a non-official source [20:13] also need to learn mutt but that has been on my todolist for >1 year === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [22:57] In #ubuntu-offtopic, AtomicSpark said: !docky is If there ever was something made of pure AWESOME in the history of mankind, then its name is Docky. See more at http://wiki.go-docky.com [23:41] hey topyli, do we have a factoid about how to become an operator yet? If not I was thinking I'd make one, and link your blog post in it, along with the requirements page. [23:44] oh hey, we do, but it's wrong now. *fixes* [23:44] @login [23:44] The operation succeeded. [23:46] !CanIBeAnOp | Please review this new language [23:46] Please review this new language: If you are interested in joining the Ops team, take a look at both http://www.siltala.net/2010/03/24/ops-teams-applications-announcement/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements for info on the process and requirements. You can also learn about what the job entails from people in #ubuntu-irc.