[00:16] <nigelb> yofel: thanks for correcting
[01:04] <nigelb> oh, good, we're now logged :)
[01:51] <nhandler> Yep. "Logs will start to show up not more than one hour after someone speaks in the channel": http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/03/25/%23ubuntu-reviews.html
[08:19] <dholbach> good morning
[08:19] <Akos> hi dholbach
[08:20] <dholbach> hi Akos
[08:46] <yofel> morning
[08:47] <yofel> dholbach: reading the wiki page nigelb was working on yesterday the only requirenment to join atm is being part of bug control?
[08:47] <dholbach> yofel: persia can maybe answer that
[08:48] <yofel> ok, thx
[08:49] <persia> I'm not any better qualified to answer than anyone else.  I'd rather say that not being a member of bug control indicates one cannot join the team, but I don't know of positive requirements.
[08:50] <yofel> any team meeting planned yet to discuss this?
[08:50] <persia> Ask nigelb or nhandler
[08:50] <dholbach> or bdmurray
[08:51] <persia> Yeah.
[08:52] <persia> My personal sense is that the team is not that formal yet, so mostly anyone who wants to join can join, assuming that other folks think they have the qualifications.
[08:52] <persia> Most of the new members I've seen have come because some member ha s asked an admin "Hey, can you add <nick> to the team?"
[08:54] <yofel> mind if I apply then? I'm interested.
[08:56] <persia> I don't have any objections, but I'm not even a very active member of the team (I've maybe reviewed 30 patches in the past few weeks).
[11:55] <nigelb> I'm going through the process of creating a knowledge base for the reviewers team.  let me know if there is something specific that needs to be there
[12:11] <nigelb> nhandler: around to bounce some ideas off?
[12:23] <nigelb> I fail at writing wikis
[12:44] <nhandler> nigelb: Sort of (if it is really fast). If not, send me an email and I'll reply later today
[12:45] <nigelb> nhandler: carry on then.  I'll just keep writing and you can review later :)
[12:45] <nhandler> :)
[12:46] <yofel> hey, I asked in the morning already? what are the requirenments to joing atm? anything else from the wiki page? I would be interested
[12:46] <yofel> s/already?/already/
[12:46] <nigelb> yofel: you can apply and ask d_holbach to approve
[12:46] <yofel> today's my typo day, meh...
[12:56]  * nhandler believes in the idea that joining the team on LP is more of a formality (in most cases) and that you should already "be" a member of the team through actions before joining
[12:58] <yofel> that's true too
[12:59] <yofel> anyway, should bug 546220 be synced from debian with an FFE, or should the lucid package be patched?
[12:59] <ubot3> Malone bug 546220 in nginx "Include GeoIP support in nginx" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/546220
[13:00] <yofel> not synced but merged
[13:00] <ibuclaw> yofel, thanks for reminding me :)
[13:01]  * ibuclaw has his own report to request an FFE for
[13:02] <nigel_nb> yofel: we have far too less devs here, ask in -motu?
[13:05] <yofel> will do
[13:10] <ibuclaw> does lucid still allow login as root via gdm?
[13:53] <nigelb> dholbach: ping
[13:54] <dholbach> nigelb: pong
[13:55] <nigelb> what would be the process for new member to join reviewers?
[13:55] <nigelb> writing new wiki pages
[14:00] <nigelb> dholbach: ^ (I've currently put as ping you here)
[14:00] <dholbach> I have no idea
[14:00] <nigelb> no n
[14:00] <dholbach> maybe we should talk to bdmurray and other ubuntu qa people
[14:00] <nigelb> ah
[14:00] <dholbach> who have experience with the bug control thing
[14:00] <dholbach> and judge membership
[14:00] <dholbach> I dunno if we should make it open and free for all
[14:01] <nigelb> requirements are currently members of bug control
[14:01] <nigelb> but my question is, how should they apply and get accepted
[14:01] <nigelb> pinging you would be fine?
[14:02] <dholbach> no
[14:02] <dholbach> they can just apply in LP
[14:02] <dholbach> and any of the team admins can accept
[14:02] <nigelb> aha, okay :)
[14:02] <dholbach> I'm busy enough as it is right now and wouldn't want to be a blocker :)
[14:03] <nigelb> hehe
[14:21] <nigelb> dholbach: thoughts on having a "Patch Day" where we get all the reviewers together to work on bugs with patches attached?  thinking of having something after lucid release when a large part of MOTU would be free for some time.
[14:22] <dholbach> definitely
[14:22] <dholbach> maybe part of Ubuntu Open Week
[14:22] <dholbach> to have a session there to explain everything
[14:22] <dholbach> and then do a patch day afterwards
[14:22] <nigelb> +1 for that
[14:23] <nigelb> I was thinking of doing a standalone session this week some time
[14:23] <nigelb> s/week/month
[14:41] <dholbach> sure
[14:42] <dholbach> might be worth talking to http://launchpad.net/~packaging-training-coordinators
[14:42] <nigelb> sure, I'll talk to nhandler :)
[14:43] <nigelb> before that, are you okay with the workflow now?
[14:46] <dholbach> I think we can improve it incrementally, my gut feeling is that we have too many tags
[14:46] <dholbach> and that those tags don't equate to tasks that we can ask people to perform
[14:46] <nigelb> got time?
[14:46] <dholbach> no, unfortunately not
[14:46] <nigelb> I can get you the use case for them
[14:46] <dholbach> I think we can roll with it now
[14:46] <dholbach> and revisit after lucid
[14:46] <nigelb> we'll roll and improvise later?
[14:47] <dholbach> that gives us some experience with how it works now
[14:47] <nigelb> I'm getting this in shape now https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam
[14:47] <dholbach> I'm sorry, but I'm maxed out right now
[14:47] <dholbach> thanks a bunch for looking into this
[14:47] <nigelb> I'll work on a class later this month and patch day after lucid release
[14:47] <nigelb> no problem.  Happy to help :)
[14:47] <dholbach> awesome!
[15:07] <ibuclaw> quick question, does lucid still allow login as root via gdm?
[15:08] <nigelb> no clue. :(
[15:08] <ibuclaw> I'm not near a machine atm
[15:08] <ibuclaw> well... a lucid machine
[15:08] <ibuclaw> nigelb, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/484317
[15:08] <ubot3> Malone bug 484317 in gdm "GDM allows root logins" [Medium,Triaged]
[15:08] <nigelb> I'm still running karmic, so I can't test either
[15:08] <ibuclaw> a bug I raised a while back w/ patch attached
[15:09] <nigelb> hold on, lemme ask someone who might know
[15:10] <ibuclaw> I've just updated the tags (some were irrelevant)
[15:53] <nigelb> good news folks, the number of patches down has gone up from 6636 to 6697 :)
[16:41] <nigelb> sorry, about the /topic spam, made a mistake earlier, corrected now :)
[18:28]  * iulian suggests to /mode -t #ubuntu-reviews
[18:28] <iulian> So people who do not have access can still change the topic.
[21:10] <nhandler> iulian: Any ubuntu member can change the topic: /msg chanserv help topic
[23:50] <nigelb> iulian: all ubuntu members can change the topic :)
[23:50] <nigelb> persia: byrce did some editing on the wiki to have https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/GettingInvolved
[23:51] <nigelb> a bit of copy editing and now it looks pretty good :)
[23:51] <persia> I saw that earlier.  It's much nicer now.
[23:51] <persia> Although the "repeat step 3" doesn't make sense anymore :)
[23:52] <nigelb> ah, lemme see what it was supposed to do :)
[23:56] <nigelb> so, everyone is +1 for a patch day (bryce and bdmurray), and we might actually have it :)
[23:56] <nigelb> I need to work on finishing the wiki pages by then
[23:56] <nigelb> anything more you'd like me to add?
[23:57] <nigelb> persia: which is the page that gives information about making simple patches?