[02:17] <Bookman> I am having trouble with my desktop.  I don't seem to have any window borders or headers.  I cannot move a program window once opened
[02:22] <Bookman> Ok, I've tried everything I can find.  I think removal time is here.  thanks.
[03:05] <pteague> anybody know if there's a clipboard app for xfce?
[03:05] <pteague> heh, i ask & then i find it
[03:28] <Dracari> i have an old copy of 7.04 Fiest Fawn where the TI PCI1620 Fix can be used. is it possible to intergrate teh fix into the the ISO?
[08:28] <gottto> !bcm
[08:28] <waxman> morning
[08:29] <gottto> evening waxman :)
[08:29] <waxman> :)
[08:30] <gottto> 6.30pm here ...
[08:32] <waxman> 9:30am here and I don't think my boss would accept the excuse "Somewhere on the world is evening, I call it a day!" :D
[08:32] <gottto> hehe
[08:32] <_Techie_> its 9:32pm here
[08:33] <gottto> _Techie_: you're west of me !
[08:33] <_Techie_> ummm
[08:34] <_Techie_> everyone is west of you
[08:34] <gottto> hehe
[08:35] <_Techie_> west is completely relative
[08:35] <gottto> I'm in Aus
[08:35] <_Techie_> im east of you
[08:35] <_Techie_> south east to be precise
[08:35] <gottto> on a round planet everyone is east and west of me ...
[08:36] <gottto> oops I had my directions mixed - pity about the cricket :)
[08:37] <_Techie_> couldnt give a shit about the cricket
[08:37] <gottto> hah
[10:45] <emcxbuntu> hi i'am stuck to get opencascade for hardy oflinepackage !-> someone can help me witch i do need? http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/wiki/InstallingOnUbuntu
[10:46] <emcxbuntu> i got a hardy 8.04 rti kernel running
[10:47] <gotttoI> what's opencascade?
[10:47] <emcxbuntu> the Computher has no internet connect i can not manage to get it work
[10:49] <emcxbuntu> the hardware here to do so is Xbuntu eth->crossover to karmic eth ---- karmic wlan to the citycenter network inet
[10:49] <gotttoI> can you open the network manager?
[10:49] <gotttoI> ahh
[10:49] <gotttoI> !adhoc
[10:49] <emcxbuntu> yes i tryd but i'am not good in reading english to get this work
[10:50] <knome> !de | emcxbuntu
[10:50] <gotttoI> k
[10:50] <emcxbuntu> if i enable eth on karmic then the ping from xbuntu goes thru but then i loos my inet wlan
[10:50] <knome> emcxbuntu, i mean, if you want to try in german ;)
[10:51] <emcxbuntu> no it seams its a xbuntu -karmic problem i tried the german channel
[10:51] <emcxbuntu> maybe i did to mutch now for 3weeks
[10:52] <gotttoI> you are trying to share the ethernet connection?
[10:52] <emcxbuntu> yes
[10:52] <emcxbuntu> but not the eth the wlan
[10:52] <gotttoI> can you ping the other comp?
[10:52] <emcxbuntu> i live 25miles from the host provider
[10:52] <emcxbuntu> with a air connect to the town hall
[10:52] <gotttoI> eg    ping 192.168.0.5
[10:53] <emcxbuntu> ok let me explane the system
[10:53] <gotttoI> ifconfig   in terminal tells the ip address
[10:54] <emcxbuntu> ther is a router in town that has ip 192.168.47.35 DHCP 192.168.47.>100
[10:54] <gotttoI> k
[10:54] <emcxbuntu> the wlan card of the karmic gets the 116
[10:54] <emcxbuntu> the eth of the karmic i fixt to 192.168.47.60
[10:55] <gotttoI> k
[10:55] <emcxbuntu> the eth of the xbuntu i fixt to 192.168.47.62
[10:55] <emcxbuntu> but if i enable via panel the eth of the karmic i loos my connect to the town router
[10:56] <emcxbuntu> do i have to use other ip  for the eth 192.168.not47.xx
[10:56] <gotttoI> you might have only one eth number to use maybe
[10:57] <emcxbuntu> there are 8 houses in town
[10:57] <gotttoI> but what numbers do the others use?
[10:57] <emcxbuntu> i'am not clear in understanding the routing of the eth to the wlan on the karmic
[10:58] <emcxbuntu> ther is only dhcp larger then 100 i think
[10:59] <emcxbuntu> so what i think is better to use internal other numbers and then rout them over the 192.168.47.116 the wlancard
[10:59] <gotttoI> I think you need to ask the person that set the towns system up maybe
[10:59] <emcxbuntu> thats not the case
[11:00] <gotttoI> k
[11:00] <emcxbuntu> cause i got 3 numbers for use but the xbuntu does not accept any wlancard i got -> 5 available here
[11:01] <emcxbuntu> all the packages are availble offliine for heekscad i got them already on the xbunt
[11:01] <emcxbuntu> http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/wiki/InstallingOnUbuntu but it says install opencascade first
[11:02] <emcxbuntu> gotttoI: maybe you can have a look at the link and tell me witch package of them presentet  i schoud use
[11:03] <emcxbuntu> dependencies 8.04
[11:04] <gotttoI> did you choose the right package for 8.04 ? basics first
[11:05] <emcxbuntu> it seams i need this one libopencascade-foundation-6.3.0
[11:05] <gotttoI> !opencascade
[11:06] <emcxbuntu> wher can i find these packages is there a search engine for packeges on hardy?
[11:07] <gotttoI> there are alot of deps on http://www.opennovation.org/ubuntu/pool/main/o/opencascade/
[11:07] <emcxbuntu> thats exactly my problem
[11:08] <emcxbuntu> i think i will not manage to install them offline
[11:08] <emcxbuntu> therfor i need to get the inet working on the xbuntu
[11:09] <emcxbuntu> did you manage to get a routing work for you?
[11:09] <gotttoI> all is fine here
[11:09] <emcxbuntu> you do not need to routew!:D
[11:10] <gotttoI> hehe
[11:13] <emcxbuntu> wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Router here is an example but i do not how  this is usable for me
[11:14] <gotttoI> I don't read deutsch...
[11:15] <emcxbuntu> i try noe to use the ubuntu channel
[11:15] <emcxbuntu> thanks
[11:15] <gotttoI> k :)
[11:57] <kaolbrec> Hi. I'm using xubuntu 9.10, with a radeon 4850. I also have two monitors. Xubuntu shows only one in display options. Can this be changed?
[12:05] <kaolbrec> grandr doesn't help much. Keeps blathering about maximum screen size.
[12:06] <kaolbrec> Back to a gnome desktop I guess. Ho hum.
[15:39] <oal> Hi.
[15:40] <oal> When I start my computer it gets to the grub list thing, and eariler there has been a countdown there
[15:40] <oal> But now there isn't and I have to press enter to continue
[15:40] <oal> Is there a way to automatically skip this?
[15:40] <charlie-tca> what version of xubuntu?
[15:40] <oal> It's Xubuntu 9.10 32 bit by the way
[15:40] <oal> charlie-tca: Xubuntu 9.10
[15:40] <charlie-tca> you can go to /etc/default and edit grub
[15:41] <oal> Hmm, exactly what do I need to change?
[15:41] <oal> Can't just press E on the grub screen and add a parameter or something?
[15:42] <charlie-tca> Just remove the # in front of 'GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET...'
[15:42] <charlie-tca> That will stop the menu from showing up
[15:42] <oal> Ok, thank you :)
[15:42] <charlie-tca> If you want to keep the menu, set the number after GRUB_TIMEOUT="5"
[15:45] <oal> Ok
[15:46] <charlie-tca> no problem
[17:51] <Sachse_Siechtum> when I plug my vinyl record player in my mic plug....I dont hear anything
[17:59] <charlie-tca> did you turn mic "on" and turn the volume for it up?
[18:05] <Sachse_Siechtum> just a moment
[18:08] <Sachse_Siechtum> yes
[18:08] <Sachse_Siechtum> the meter shows there is input coming in...
[18:08] <Sachse_Siechtum> but I dont hear anything
[18:08] <Sachse_Siechtum> output is fine
[18:08] <charlie-tca> does it work with a microphone plugged in?
[18:08] <Sachse_Siechtum> yes
[18:08] <charlie-tca> weird
[18:09] <Sachse_Siechtum> it works in XP
[18:12] <Sachse_Siechtum> maybe I need an app to activate it...
[18:21] <Sachse_Siechtum> somehow I dont have no system sounds, which are mono, too
[18:21] <Sachse_Siechtum> I have no...
[18:58] <faron> Using Xubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron.If I have more than one media player installed for Firefox,will those other media players interfere with the others ?
[18:59] <Sachse_Siechtum> faron, no.....normally the media player you installed first will be used in firefox
[19:01] <Sachse_Siechtum> faron, if you wanna change it, you can do it in "manage content plugins" in Firefox
[19:02] <faron> Ah,okay.I've been confused...IF I did have several different players installed I have been under the impression that whateversite I went to would pick the media player to use...Is this the cse ? & thanks for replying
[19:02] <faron> cse=case
[19:03] <faron> I've been under the impression that having more than one player installed might possibly confuse things
[19:04] <faron> And,whatever site I went to might not know the best player to use
[19:05] <faron> I'm just soooooooooo confuseds by this whole issue !:-/
[19:08] <faron> And,how about this...instead of using Adobes flash player,is it possible to use  a different player to play flash videos ?
[19:08] <TheSheep> !gnash
[19:20] <Sysi> i've heard that swfdec is better, still it's not very good :/
[19:29] <slow-motion> bye
[20:47] <nightrid3r> hi, i need to do an offline install of xubuntu in french, how can this be done ?
[20:49] <charlie-tca> Use the daily or alternate cd, unplug the internet cable
[20:49] <charlie-tca> both cd's allow offline installations
[20:50] <Myrtti> charlie-tca: but the cd's don't include the french language packages
[20:50]  * charlie-tca looks up
[20:50] <nightrid3r> and thats the problem :)
[20:50] <charlie-tca> oops
[20:50] <charlie-tca> Myrtti is right, too
[20:51] <charlie-tca> You would have to localize the cd. or download the Ubuntu DVD, and use it. It should have the language packs on it. After installing, add xubuntu-desktop
[20:51] <nightrid3r> i need to reanimate an old pc and there is no internet connection, so i need to find a way to get french language from a cybercafe
[20:52] <charlie-tca> yup
[20:52] <charlie-tca> You should be able to from the Ubuntu DVD
[20:52] <nightrid3r> and xubuntu is on the dvd to ?
[20:52] <charlie-tca> I don't remember for sure. But the xubuntu desktop pagkage is
[20:53] <nightrid3r> ok i'll try that
[20:53] <nightrid3r> thanks
[20:53] <charlie-tca> good luck
[20:53] <Myrtti> there is another option
[20:53] <Myrtti> you can use the live cd and launch synaptic
[20:54] <Myrtti> pick the language packages, then use the function to create a download script
[20:54] <Myrtti> save the script to a usb memory stick you can take to the cybercafe - and use it do download the language packages
[20:55] <Myrtti> or if the script doesn't work, then you can atleast use it as a list of packages you need to manually download and save to the usb disc
[20:55] <Myrtti> after using the cd to install the actual system, you can then use the usb memory stick with the packages downloaded to it to install french language support
[20:58] <nightrid3r> ok
[22:30] <faron> okay hopefully all are well today...been over at # ubuntu & people are trying to help but  :-( was hoping maybe someone over here would/might have more time to help.....trying to get vers 8.7 of gnash mozilla plugin already have vers 8.2 & that not working anybody ?
[22:31] <Sysi> gnash just isn't very good
[22:31] <Sysi> have you tried swfdec?
[22:32] <faron> when going to tools-add-ons & "find updates" in firefox...firefox takes me to ADOBES site & not gnashes
[22:32] <faron> not lately
[22:32] <faron> I guess I could give that a try
[22:32] <Sysi> someone said it's better
[22:33] <faron> I'm just trying to find a replacement for adob !!!!!
[22:33] <faron> I guess I could try that too darnit !
[22:34] <Sysi> there isn't very good one, if there was nobody would want adobe
[22:34] <faron> so frustrating.just got an old pc here & I'd like to get it sort of set up for my girl ya know ?
[22:34] <faron> yeah
[22:34] <Sysi> these days you need dualcore for web-browsing ._.
[22:35] <faron> I had adobe working ALMOST perfectly on this sys once...just ALMOST
[22:35] <faron> yeah
[22:35] <faron> darnit
[22:35] <faron> and thanks again sysi
[22:35] <knome> fwiw, i've understood that you can get most of the popular flash sites working with non-adobe, but it's not really stable/solid.
[22:35] <faron> you always try & that is so much appreciated in todays world
[22:36] <knome> and that the free packages tend to break now and then when the sites renew their systems
[22:36] <faron> that last part I know............
[22:36] <David-A> faron: you might need add-ons NoScript and FlashBlock (or AdBlockPlus) on an OLD PC.
[22:36] <David-A> I do
[22:37] <faron> yeah I had that till vers 3.6 install of firefox
[22:37] <faron> firefox said it didn't like noscript anymore
[22:38] <faron> if I have more than 1 plugin installed for firefox flash will firefox get confused ?
[22:38] <faron> always been  kinda confused about that
[22:39] <knome> faron, i think previously didn't, but now does.
[22:39] <faron> okay so when trying out new software/plugin I should disable the others huh ?
[22:40] <knome> faron, yeah i suppose that couldn't hurt you either.
[22:41] <faron> I was soo happy when I just installed the 8.2 gnash & then went to my flash site [late,late show] it at least showed the pic but wouldn't play the vid
[22:41] <faron> thanks so much guys
[22:42] <faron> guys/gals ?:-D
[22:47] <knome> guys i suppose
[22:47] <knome> ;P
[22:47] <Sysi> there's no women in irc, everybody knows etc :b
[23:59] <faron> anybody explain to me why firefox not recognizing swfdec mozilla plugin I just installed from synaptic ?