[00:03] <James147> lappie: knetworkmanager is the easiest way
[00:04] <lappie> do i need to install knetworkmanager or is that the one already installed?
[00:04] <James147> lappie: should already be installed (and in your systray)
[00:05] <lappie> ahh, ok it was, hmm. i know i enetered the correct wep key, but i dont know much about the other settings,
[00:05] <zus> is there anything else i should install apart from kgpg to encrypt and decrypt  anything?
[00:06] <James147> lappie: Try changing "Authentication" to "Shared key" I find that helps when connecting to wep
[00:06] <zus> it not decrypting my gmail
[00:06] <lappie> ahh ok i will do that :) is there any other settings i should be aware of?
[00:08] <James147> lappie: make sure your are using wep i find knetworkmanager sometimes sets it to wep when the encription should be wpa
[00:08] <lappie> if it helps its a linksys modem/router w both wireless and ethernet connectabilities, i am connecting via wireless connected to cable internet with a wep key
[00:10] <lappie> idk, i'm probably gonna go with ubuntustudio anyhow, i just wanted 2 play around w all the derivatives of ubuntu b4 i chose
[00:12] <lappie> i started w ubuntu because it was the easiest to get 2 know :0 but now im not such a noob to linux and ubuntu, i think im ready to choose the one im gonna keep :)...  thanks for the help
[00:15] <zus> lappie,  i have the same train of thought. im on kubuntu atm. prolly going to stay here on lucid but continue to try other flavors and stay rooted in lucid for the lts
[00:17] <lappie> zus i do like how lucid looks n feels but ive heard its pretty buggy, also it did not play any sounds
[00:18] <zus> lappie,  yeah im waiting for it yet. but thats what i think ill do is keep with lucid and play around on the other.
[00:19] <lappie> zus your sound isnt working either?
[00:19] <zus> im on 9.10 kubuntu right now.
[00:20] <lappie> welp, i just finished burning ubuntustudio, time to go check it out :) cu later
[00:20] <James147> lappie: zus: lucid is still in beta testing so there are going to be bugs just hope they get fixed by final release
[00:21] <lappie> kewl any timeframe on when the final will be done?
[00:21] <James147> lappie: end of april
[00:21] <zus> sometime in april i read
[00:21] <lappie> oh nice!
[00:21] <James147> lappie: aimed at the 29 I think
[00:22] <lappie> but ill be working 16 hour days then :( so i guess it'll be october b4 i get 2 play with it
[00:28] <antlarr> hi
[00:28] <antlarr> aufs or unionfs ?
[00:28] <Typos_King> ?
[00:28] <Typos_King> what about onionfs?
[00:29] <Typos_King> or carrotfs?
[00:29] <antlarr> :)
[00:30] <antlarr> I was asking for experiences with any of the two
[00:32] <Typos_King> can't say :|
[00:32] <phoenix_> hello everyone
[00:32] <phoenix_> i am not able to update vlc player
[00:32] <James147> antlarr: you might want to ask a more spific question to get better responses
[00:33] <James147> phoenix_: What error are you getting and what are you sueing to update it?
[00:34] <antlarr> sorry, I'm thinking on testing a union filesystem, and was wondering if I should try aufs or unionfs
[00:34] <phoenix_> currenty the version of my vlc is 1.0.2 golden eye, i saw in the vlc home page that the current version is 1.0.5, when i search in the software management, it lists the version 1.0.2 only
[00:34] <zus> gnupg, gnupg2, gnupg-agent and kgpg. do i need all these to encrypt and decrypt files? i alrerady have kgpg. (also want to know if i imported my keys properly.
[00:34] <antlarr> I've never used any of them, and just wanted to know if there was a preferred one for general use
[00:35] <phoenix_> James147: i am not getting any errors
[00:36] <James147> phoenix_: the software managment software works of repositites of packages that don't always include the very latest version of everything
[00:37] <Typos_King> phoenix_:     click on 'update' or so a -> sudo apt-get update; to update the repositories lists
[00:37] <phoenix_> i enabled the beta and multiverse etc in the software sources.do you mean even thought i enable it i wont get the latest version, if so what is the way to get the latest update
[00:38] <Typos_King> phoenix_:     it may onr may not be there, either way, I don't think there's a humoungous difference from .0.2 to .0.5
[00:39] <phoenix_> the currect version , in the fullscreen mode does not cover the taskbar panel, i have to do it everytime manually,
[00:39] <phoenix_> so i thought that a update could fix the problem
[00:42] <phoenix_> Typos_King: i am running the command. it hung up.the message->"99% [waiting for headers]"
[00:42] <phoenix_> Typos_King: finished
[00:43] <Typos_King> ok
[00:43] <Typos_King> now you can check again your list
[00:43] <Typos_King> you canll... do
[00:43] <Typos_King> apt-cache search vlc
[00:43] <phoenix_> Typos_King: what does the command do
[00:44] <James147> phoenix_: can't see an 'easy' way to get the updated version execpt compiling from source or looking for an updated repo
[00:44] <Typos_King> phoenix_:     searches the package entry :)
[00:45] <phoenix_> James147: i am a newbie
[00:45] <Typos_King> chances are, vlc site has a .deb already anyway
[00:45] <Typos_King> and you can just get that and install it
[00:45] <James147> phoenix_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=vlc <- 1.0.2 in karmic 1.0.5 in lucid
[00:45] <phoenix_> Typos_King: can you give the link
[00:45] <Typos_King> ahem
[00:46] <Typos_King> why you need .0.5?  the versioning isn't that much of a biggie it seems, but anyway
[00:46] <James147> Typos_King: cant find one, ubuntu link just describes how to install it from reops
[00:47] <Typos_King> that's like upgrading from a Mug to a Glass
[00:47] <phoenix_> i think the reason why i am not able to update to 1.0.5 is because mine is not lucid
[00:47] <James147> phoenix_: lucid is still in beta so I wouldnt advice upgrading yet
[00:48] <James147> phoenix_: It comes out end of april so you dont have too long to wait
[00:48] <phoenix_> i am using kde 4.4.1
[00:50] <Typos_King> phoenix_:     they seem to refer to the repositories, so I gather you may not be able to run it even if you can get it
[00:50] <phoenix_> i heard that there will be a delay in the release of lucid , since it is still unstable , is that true
[00:50] <zus> how do i see if these are installed? gnupg, gnupg2, gnupg-agent
[00:50] <Typos_King> I mean, you can get the .deb, no biigies on that, then the install may say 'this or that dependency' missing
[00:50] <James147> phoenix_: Havent heard anything
[00:51] <phoenix_> Typos_King: ok , will wait till lucid is released
[00:51] <James147> phoenix_: But I havent really been paying much attention to it
[00:51] <phoenix_> James147: why
[00:51] <Typos_King> zus:    apt-cache pkgnames | grep -i gnupg
[00:51] <James147> phoenix_: If you really want it, it isent that har dto compile it... most of the time :)
[00:52] <phoenix_> James147: i tried compiling a source and ended up nothing
[00:52] <zus> Typos_King,  if i get red text on output
[00:53] <Typos_King> red text means the matches
[00:53] <James147> phoenix_: it will come out when it comes out, atm I am in no rush to upgrade everything to it :) have a laptop with it on but thats it atm
[00:54] <zus> so theyre installed?
[00:54] <phoenix_> James147: what is the internel gpu of your laptop
[00:55] <James147> phoenix_: gpu? intel I think, its an eeepc 1005HA
[00:56] <phoenix_> James147: friend of mine is having a laptop with ati x1200 gpu, when i install the fglrx driver kwin crashes. what is the problem
[00:57] <Typos_King_> zus:   if they show in the matches, yes
[00:57] <James147> phoenix_: Know very little about the ati graphics, I tend to use intel or nvidia
[00:59] <zus> can i encrypt a file by right clicking it?  i dont have a sign or encrypt option
[00:59] <Typos_King_> can you see the apps listed in the programs section?
[00:59] <phoenix_> James147: in my system i am using 9400gt. when i upgrate my kernel, i have to reinstall the display driver
[00:59] <zus> wiat i have encrypt  not sign
[01:00] <mm_202> Is there a way to 'share' an applet across multiple desktops?  (when they each have their own Activity Desktop)
[01:00] <mm_202> oui, Widget*
[01:01] <James147> zus: right click file -> actions -> encrypt file
[01:01] <zus> i found encrypt right after i mentioned but where is the sign option?
[01:04] <phoenix_> James147: thanks for the help
[01:04] <phoenix_> Typos_King_: thanks for the help
[01:24] <Paddy_NI> I have it set so that kaffeine automatically opens to play embedded video from the web browser.. where does the buffer save to?
[01:24] <Paddy_NI> it aint in /tmp
[01:52] <kevin_> I've been wanting to try kubuntu and several other KDE distros on my computer but have been unsuccessful as of yet. Every live CD i've tried won't boot correctly.
[01:53] <kevin_> It will go through the startup sequence with the hard drive symbol then the tools, and then it stops starts blinking and won't load. Any idea how to fix the problem?
[01:54] <kevin_> I haven't tried launching it in verbose mode, that may give me a clue. But the odd thing is this only happens with KDE, I've never had problems with GNOME or Xfce.
[02:02] <James147> kevin_: What distros/versions have you tryed?
[02:03] <kevin_> Kubuntu 9.10, Linux Mint 8
[02:04] <kevin_> I have tried the live cd on a different computer and it worked on that. It could be hardware issue, but GNOME works, wouldn't they both have the same hardware requirements?
[02:06] <James147> kevin_: you could try installing kubuntu in ubuntu (sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop) could be one piece of hardawre that kde is being more fussy about
[02:07] <kevin_> I'll have to try that sometime, I am currently running Ubuntu 10.04 Beta, perhaps I'll try adding kde. What's the package name?
[02:07] <kevin_> For terminal purposes
[02:08] <kevin_> sorry... I'm an idiot you already answered that question.
[02:08] <James147> kevin_: "kubuntu-desktop" or "kde-minimal" or "kde-full" depending on what you want
[02:09] <kevin_> What's the difference between kubuntu and kde-full?
[02:09] <James147> kevin_: you only need to install one depending on how much stuff you want installed
[02:09] <kevin_> ok thanks
[02:10] <James147> kevin_: I think kubuntu-desktop comse with some extra apps (not part of kde but kde related) as well as ubuntu customised settings
[02:11] <kevin_> Out of curiosity, what's the difference between aptitude and apt-get? I've always used the latter, I know they are essentially the same.
[02:14] <James147> kevin_: not much anymore, aptitude use to handel packages installed by dependencys but now apt-get is just as good i think, i tend to use aptitude as I like it search function better and it has a console gui when you just run "sudo aptitude"
[02:17] <Kinlecheeny> how to kde switch gnome login start menu applications show up ??
[02:17] <kevin_> James147: well good to know thanks for the info
[02:18] <James147> Kinlecheeny: ?? you asking how to switch kdm with gdm? or about gnome/kde apps in the opposite enviroment?
[02:19] <Kinlecheeny> english bad put
[02:19] <Kinlecheeny> sister need gnome kubuntu start menu
[02:28] <kevin_> ok I'm back I install the kubuntu desktop and reatarted my computer, but as it tries to load into KDE it kicks me out back to the login screen. Any ideas about what that would mean?
[02:30] <kevin_> Obviously KDE doesn't like me, I just don't know why.
[02:30] <James147> kevin_: try going to a virtual console, stopping gdm (or kdm which ever your useing) and running startkde
[02:31] <kevin_> how would i go about doing that?
[02:33] <James147> kevin_: to swirch to virtual console hit "Alt+Ctrl+F1" (or F2-F6) and "Alt+Ctrl+F7" to get back (can sometimes be a higher value then F7)
[02:34] <James147> kevin_: to stop gdm or kdm type "sudo service gdm stop" and to start it again "sudo service gdm start" (or restart)
[02:34] <James147> kevin_: after you stop it run "startkde"
[02:43] <kevin_> It's didn't work, i stopped gnome, and when I ran the startkde command it returned with: display is not set or cannot connect to the x server.
[03:41] <howlymowly> hi poeple...  if using compiz with kde 4
[03:41] <howlymowly> how do you make your panel transparent?
[04:19] <krash> Where to go to get good kde themes?
[04:24] <zus> so after looking anf finding the kgpg manual - there wasnt anything  on importing . how do i know i did it right?
[04:25] <zus> krash, http://kde-look.org/
[04:25] <krash> thankz zus :)
[04:26] <zus> krash, welcome im new to KDE but thats where i was at this afternoon
[04:30] <zus> krash, ya can also do right click desktop>desktop activities>get new wallpapers. takes you to the same site
[04:35] <zus> krash,  are you interested in High Definition wallpapers? http://wall.alphacoders.com/
[05:13] <dezk> hello im having some trubless with swat
[05:13] <dezk> send me error swat depend of samba
[05:18] <lin> hi all
[05:21] <andr> who
[05:21] <andr> list
[06:06] <thaikien> hi there
[06:07] <thaikien> is there anybody here
[06:08] <avihay> yes, there are. ask your questions. if someone knows, they will reply
[06:35] <thaikien> thanks
[06:36] <thaikien> i am offline now,i'll be back later, thanks all
[07:33] <avihay> I have a samba problem on a relatively new install of kubuntu 9.10. I had to install samba. I also installed the knetwork-fileshareing package. I right clicked a folder, got to sharing, clicked advanced, added a the folder I wanted to share, and in now appears on the network, but I can't browse it
[07:39] <avihay> I guess I should go and manually edit samba.conf, right?
[08:01] <avihay> what's that map gust = bad user ????
[08:01] <avihay> *guest
[08:08] <avihay> ok, found http://kubuntuguide.org/
[08:09] <avihay> suggests I install system-config-samba
[08:20] <avihay> well, I made every change I can posibly think of to enable simple public shareing, and it still doesn't work
[08:32] <Hydrospawn>  
[08:41] <Tm_T> good morning all (:)
[09:03] <kitemu> c'è nessunoooo?
[09:03] <kitemu> heeeeyyy???
[09:53] <nikhil_> can anyone explain to me how to get a key for a ppa, after having added said ppa to /etc/apt/sources.lst?
[09:59] <babu__> hai
[10:00] <babu__> how to install mysql in ubuntu 9.04
[10:00] <babu__> is anybody alive
[10:05] <babu__> join #ubuntu
[10:06] <babu__> joijoin ubuntu
[10:06] <babu__> #ubuntu
[10:06] <Vroomfondle> you need "/join #ubuntu"
[10:12] <rork> babu__ install mysql-server or mysql -lient trough apt-get/kpackage/synaptic
[10:12] <rork> *mysql-client
[10:31] <genux> lo
[10:58] <ubuntu_> gello
[10:58] <ubuntu_> hello
[10:59] <ubuntu_> ?
[11:27] <moreno> nick giangiva
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:30] <amichair> hey BluesKaj
[12:30] <BluesKaj> hi amichair
[12:30] <amichair> anyone know what's the difference between http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ ?
[12:31] <amichair> one givens me an rsync error, the other not
[12:34] <BluesKaj> amichair, they look exactly the same to my eyes
[12:35] <vbgunz> I am going nuts trying to configure grub2 to accept what should be primitively simple. how do I set the vga mode for my framebuffer? I googled and tried so many things. this is crazy :(
[12:35] <BluesKaj> amichair, I use the updates that are loaded into the repos for lucid
[12:36] <BluesKaj> amichair, you really should ask that question in #ubuntu+1 , someone there might know
[12:37] <amichair> BluesKaj: k, thanks!
[12:51] <[-Haza-]> Hey folks... Its been a little while but i have the same problem popping up.. my kubuntu 9.10 goes into read only mode. o have to restart and run a fsck and fix any errors i find... whats going on here...
[12:52] <[-Haza-]> I remember last time checked for errors on my HD's (striped raid array) using smartmontools and the like
[12:52] <[-Haza-]> found some errors on one of the HDs but had some other guy look at the errors and inform me that they were nothing to worry about
[12:53] <[-Haza-]> I don't mind restarting and the fsck so much but what really sucks is now im about to lose something ive been working on... that really blows :(
[13:55] <daniel_san> in need of some much needed help. booted up today to find i can't mount my ext4 filesystem
[13:55] <daniel_san> target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
[14:36] <Daughain> !jack
[15:03] <kubuntu> Merhaba türkçe bilen varmı
[15:04] <kubuntu> varsa chroot nasıl yapılır söylermisiniz
[15:06] <genii> !tr | kubuntu
[15:07] <arch0njw> genii: HTH did you figure out that was Turkish?
[15:07] <genii> arch0njw: " türkçe"
[15:07] <arch0njw> genii: Huh.  Another language I need more exposure to :)
[15:17] <freinhard> hi!
[15:17] <freinhard> can somebody tell me how i can easily disable my touchpad while im typing?
[15:17] <freinhard> the top right corner emulates a middle click, aka insert, and that REALLY drives me crazy!
[15:18] <freinhard> hitting the spacebar without touching the touchpad is kind of impossible...
[15:19] <DarkwingDuck> freinhard: I wrote something on this in my blog... http://david.wonderly.com/archives/29
[15:20] <freinhard> cheers!
[15:21] <DarkwingDuck> that what you are looking for?
[15:21] <freinhard> no idea, anyting that prevents me from going mad! :D
[15:21] <freinhard> disabling the middleclick on the topright corner would be a start
[15:21] <DarkwingDuck> LOL give it a shot and if it doesn't work ping me
[15:22] <freinhard> typing and inserting the last marked stuff on every second space is kind of... exhausting...
[15:23] <freinhard> asus netbook, space and touchpad are really close
[15:24] <freinhard> works, awesome!
[15:25] <freinhard> but i didn
[15:25] <freinhard> but i didn't need that shmconfig thing
[15:30] <DarkwingDuck> okay, I wrote it for 8.10 so it must have changed...
[15:31] <DarkwingDuck> glad it worked for you freinhard
[15:33] <freinhard> DarkwingDuck: there should be some gui for that in systemsettings
[15:33] <iconmefisto> freinhard: there is also a program called touchfreeze you might want to check out
[15:33] <iconmefisto> !info touchfreeze
[15:34] <daniel_san> ﻿in need of some much needed help. booted up today to find i can't mount my ext4 filesystem
[15:34] <daniel_san> ﻿target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
[15:34] <daniel_san> anyone have any idea?
[15:35] <freinhard> iconmefisto: thx, DarkwingDuck's method works and im satisfied for the moment.
[15:36] <DarkwingDuck> thanks
[15:37] <genii> daniel_san: http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1386549
[15:39] <daniel_san> thanks genii
[15:40] <daniel_san> grrr looks discouraging. should have formatted ext3 in the first place
[15:41] <genii> daniel_san: I'd probably try setting the ACPI to S3 first as described in posting #5 there
[15:41] <genii> ( before a file system check )
[15:43] <daniel_san> problem is, im on an 8.04 live cd. looks like i may need a 9.10 live cd. thanks for the advice genii
[15:53] <zus> does k mail onle fetch mail from one email?  my second email keep poping up with the password box
[16:07] <Altbierdaggi> Hat jemand n Altbier?
[16:15] <howlymowly> hi poeple...  short question:  in kubuntu beta 10.04 krunner is very slow?
[16:15] <eagles05138785> howlymowly: all questions related to lucid can be answered in ubuntu+1
[16:15] <eagles05138785> channel
[16:15] <howlymowly> kk..
[16:16] <Maranatha> whats the sudo command to access the Nvidia controls
[16:29] <zus> need help with k mail please
[16:29] <zus> it keeps asking for user name and password even though it did and hit remeber paswd.
[16:35] <Maranatha> what is the sudo command to access the Nvidia savings so I can save my settings
[16:36] <Maranatha> nevermind I found it
[16:38] <Maranatha> I recieved some warnings when I entered gksudo nvidia-settings
[16:39] <Maranatha> !pastebin
[16:39] <Maranatha> http://paste.ubuntu.com/401888/
[16:47] <zus> it keeps asking for user name and password even though it did and hit remeber paswd.
[16:47] <zus> may i have help with kmail? plz
[16:47] <Maranatha> ah thanks zus
[16:48] <zus> Maranatha,  lol i forgot i asked earlier in two portions
[16:49] <Maranatha> everytime I reboot my computer it changes my screen rez
[16:49] <Maranatha> kind of aggrivating
[16:49] <_motti_> Hi guys, I just installed kubuntu 10.04 and My iPod is not dettected. Do I need to install enything in addition?
[16:51] <daskreech> Hi zus
[16:51] <zus> hi Daskreech
[16:52] <daskreech> Maranatha: wha video card?
[16:52] <daskreech> Oh nVidia of course
[16:52] <daskreech> _motti_: #ubuntu+1
[16:53] <Maranatha> I just tried to save the config again I hope it works this time
[16:54] <daskreech> Maranatha: what res does it come up as ?
[16:54] <daskreech> zus: What would you like help with?
[16:54] <Maranatha> 1024 x 764
[16:55] <zus> daskreech,  kamil i have 2 gmail accounts and my 2nd account is asking for  username and password...constantly
[16:55] <zus> daskreech,  even after hitting remember password
[16:55] <_motti_> thanks
[16:55] <daskreech> zus: did you add it to KDE wallet?
[16:56] <daskreech> Maranatha: which one would you like?
[16:56] <zus> daskreech,  good question, how do i make sure?
[16:56] <Maranatha> 1280 x 1024
[16:56] <daskreech> Erm
[16:56] <Maranatha> its a tube moniter :(
[16:56] <Maranatha> I want a flatscreen
[16:56] <daskreech> zus: Not sure :) I guess open Kde wallet in the system settings
[16:56] <daskreech> Maranatha: you have a xorg.conf ?
[16:57] <Maranatha> I already went to here gksudo nvidia-settings and saved it
[16:57] <Maranatha> but I figured it would of worked the first time i did it
[16:57] <zus> daskreech,  not seeing it in systems settings>computer administration
[16:59] <daskreech> Ok second
[17:00] <daskreech> Maranatha: how did you test?
[17:01] <Maranatha> I need to reboot lol to test it
[17:02] <daskreech> Maranatha: You can just logout and press Alt+E
[17:02] <daskreech> that's a safe shutdown of the X server
[17:02] <daskreech> !dontzap
[17:02] <Maranatha> ok I will give that a try
[17:02] <daskreech> You can do that as well ^^^^
[17:02] <daskreech> or you can press alt+Ctrl+PrtScrn+K
[17:02] <daskreech> The kernel will kill all X instances and then restart one
[17:03] <daskreech> All waaaaaaay faster than rebooting :)
[17:03] <Maranatha> so I press that now?
[17:04] <genii> I guess they found the right key combo
[17:04] <daskreech> lol
[17:06] <Maranatha> that was quick :)
[17:06] <Maranatha> and all is well
[17:07] <daskreech> WooHoo! Another cookie for me!
[17:08] <genii> !helpersnack | daskreech
[17:09] <arch0njw> OMFG...
[17:09] <arch0njw> (and that would be ... Freaking Goodness)
[17:09] <genii> arch0njw:  :)
[17:09] <arch0njw> Is there a way to list all of those commands?
[17:10] <genii> arch0njw: There is a searchable list of them on http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[17:10] <arch0njw> genii: neat.  thank you
[17:11] <genii> arch0njw: You're welcome
[17:16] <daskreech> Maranatha: you dont need gksudo for nvidia-settings i think. Near as I remember sudo should be enough
[17:16] <daskreech> genii: Kwallet can keep multiple profiles for Kmail right?
[17:17] <genii> daskreech: No idea. I use webmail exclusively.
[17:17] <daskreech> genii: It's a generic kwallet question.
[17:18] <genii> daskreech: Since it can store stuff like multiple network-manager passwords I would think kmail could have multiple profiles as well, yes
[17:20] <daskreech> zus: Ok what happens when you open Kmail?
[17:20] <zus> daskreech,  lets see, lol
[17:21] <zus> i got my notice of mails
[17:22] <zus> daskreech,  im trying to find wich account it noticed...
[17:22] <daskreech> zus: Ok :)
[17:30] <zus> daskreech,  sorry lunch got here. lol
[17:32]  * daskreech munch munch munches
[17:32] <zus> om nom nom nom
[17:35] <zus> after i tell it to remeber mu p[assword then i get my second  notice and emails
[17:36] <daskreech> a second prompt?
[17:52] <bbeck> My select boxes are huge, it appears the reason is that the default delete icon has been replaced by the kmix icon (I'm guessing 32x32).  Does anyone know where the configuration for that (the icon) might be stored so I can change it back?
[18:02] <daskreech> bbeck: checked in icons under Apperance in the System setting?
[18:03] <phoenix__> hello everyone
[18:03] <daskreech> !hi  | phoenix__
[18:04] <phoenix__> iam getting this error when i run the game alien-arena from console with root permissions "*** buffer overflow detected ***: /usr/lib/games/alien-arena/crx.sdl terminated
[18:04] <phoenix__> "
[18:05] <phoenix__> daskreech: have you played any fps games in kubuntu
[18:06] <daskreech> Yes
[18:08] <phoenix__> daskreech: i am trying to play alien arena, when i run the game without root permissions, it is not able to acess the nvidia hardware,but when i give the permission i get the error
[18:08] <phoenix__> daskreech: ""*** buffer overflow detected ***: /usr/lib/games/alien-arena/crx.sdl terminated"
[18:08] <daskreech> You shouldn't need root to run it
[18:08] <daskreech> unless you installed it horribly. How did you get it installed?
[18:09] <phoenix__> every program in my system need root permission to use the 3d acceleration
[18:09] <daskreech> >_>
[18:10] <James147> phoenix__: thats not right.... :S
[18:10] <phoenix__> daskreech: every program in my system need root permission to use the 3d acceleration. i installed it from the software management
[18:11] <phoenix__> James147: programs like, glxgears, google maps, xbms etc need root permission to use 3d acceleration
[18:12] <phoenix__> James147: xbmc
[18:12] <James147> phoenix__: what nvidia drivers are you useing?
[18:13] <James147> phoenix__: or what graphics card do you have :p
[18:14] <phoenix__> i am using nvidia 9400gt .i am not using the proprietary drivers, i downloaded the driver from nvidia webpage and installed it
[18:15] <phoenix__> James147: i am using nvidia 9400gt .i am not using the proprietary drivers, i downloaded the driver from nvidia webpage and installed it
[18:15] <James147> phoenix__: the nvidia drivers from nvidia are proprietary
[18:16] <phoenix__> James147: sorry, i ment to say that i installed the drivers manually
[18:19] <phoenix__> James147: can you help me
[18:20] <James147> phoenix__: one sec, going to try and install them now
[18:20] <phoenix__> ok
[18:24] <James147> phoenix__: Justed installed them and I don't need root to run glxgears... what happens when you try to run it without root?
[18:25] <phoenix__> i get poor fps
[18:25] <phoenix__> James147: i get poor fps
[18:26] <phoenix__> James147: when i run it with root permissions. i get full acceleration
[18:26] <James147> phoenix__: not seeing any difference here, not really sure why you are getting that
[18:26] <James147> phoenix__: All i can really suggest is reinstalling the drivers (removing the old ones first if you can)
[18:27] <phoenix__> James147: one min. will show the error message when i run google maps without root permissions'
[18:29] <phoenix__> James147: "NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidiactl (Permission denied)."
[18:29] <zus> alright now, hello everyone
[18:29] <zus> daskreech,  are you still about?
[18:30] <phoenix__> James147: i am getting the same error with xbmc "NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidiactl (Permission denied)." and also this one
[18:31] <zus> any one care to walk me through makeing kmail recognize my second gmail?... i deleted the two accounts and redid the main one..... just in case now i need the second one
[18:32] <phoenix__> paste picture?
[18:33] <vbgunz> anybody got window resizing down to a smooth operation using nvidia binary drivers? How?
[18:33] <phoenix__> James147: http://imagebin.org/90475
[18:35] <James147> phoenix__: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=89965#8  <- try this
[18:41] <daskreech> vbgunz: Depends on the video card ofcourse
[18:41] <vbgunz> daskreech: I have a gtx260
[18:42] <phoenix__> James147: the link is very usefull , i have read it and will try the mod
[18:42] <vbgunz> all other effects run great. resizing shouldn't really be an effect but I messed with every InitialPixmapPlacement and GlyphCache setting and resizing is always botchy
[18:42] <vbgunz> I am on 9.10, shouldn't there have been a patch to Qt 4.6 that makes resizing smooth as hell?
[18:44] <zus> how can i get kubuntu 9.10 KDE4.4 ( when i kmenu>aplication>when i slide up, sometimes, but often enough to annoy, the help sticks to the cursor as if im draging  it out...
[18:44] <zus> to stop doing that/
[18:45] <zus> nvm on kmail i think i got it working...thanks all who've helpped me
[18:46] <daskreech> vbgunz: #kwin
[18:46] <daskreech> zus: So it's all behind Kwallet now?
[18:47] <vbgunz> this isn't being implemented in Kubuntu at all http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/06/10/smooth-and-solid-resizing-on-x11/
[18:47] <vbgunz> daskreech: I think Qt might have something to do with this, especially in the above mentioned link
[18:47] <zus> daskreech,  it should have been at first set up, but i think i messed up on assigning the pop and smtp passwords.
[18:48] <daskreech> vbgunz: well if you think it's missing in Kubuntu specifcally start @ #kubuntu-devel
[18:48] <daskreech> zus: oh yeah Duh. Then it will try fail and then reprompt you for the password
[18:49] <zus> daskreech,  it kept asking for pas word on my 2nd account but i set them up the same ... so y wouldnt the 1st one be asking?
[18:50] <daskreech> cause you typed it wrong the second time
[18:53] <phoenix__> James147: i have done the mods. i will reboot now and i will be back
[18:55] <Ahmed\> hi
[18:57] <oem> new user been orriented
[18:58] <Ahmed\> oem umm !
[18:59] <patiqs> hello
[18:59] <patiqs> is here anybody ?
[18:59] <patiqs> (:
[19:00] <patiqs> i'd like a little bit help
[19:00] <Tscheesy_> !Help | patiqs
[19:00] <patiqs> thx
[19:00] <patiqs> !help
[19:00] <Peace-> patiqs: what?
[19:01] <zus> anyone use the red glass cursor? does it turn sideways when you hover on links? i find it odd
[19:01] <patiqs> i've began my new computer life with kubunktu
[19:02] <patiqs> i'll never use w.......
[19:02] <Peace-> so what's the problem ma ?
[19:02] <daskreech> patiqs: Welcome to Kubuntu and Linux!
[19:02] <patiqs> but unfortunatelly it's quite strange
[19:02] <patiqs> (:
[19:02] <Peace-> seawolf: pleae on italian channel man
[19:02] <Peace-> please
[19:03] <daskreech> zus: You have a hover link state of the mouse pointer. Edit it from mouse in the system settings and do what you like with it
[19:03] <Peace-> patiqs: well there are a lots of screencast to learn about kubuntu
[19:03] <patiqs> thx desk (:
[19:03] <zus> patiqs,  if you just use linux for emails and internet looking up and research its the same....
[19:03] <daskreech> patiqs: ask what you want to know
[19:04] <Ahmed\> I can't switch the desktop on Gnome or KDE :P any idea why ?
[19:04] <zus> daskreech,  not comeplainign its just odd to me,...never had that b4.. but it takes getting used too
[19:04] <patiqs> for example, why can't play my dvds ...
[19:04] <Peace-> seawolf: i know so.... but i dont' know how to use notice xD
[19:04] <daskreech> zus: Hmm?
[19:04] <patiqs> and mp3's
[19:04] <daskreech> !dvd
[19:04] <daskreech> patiqs: ^^^^
[19:04] <zus> daskreech,  we can however complain about my spelling lol
[19:04] <Peace-> !medibuntu | patiqs
[19:05] <daskreech> patiqs: for Mp3 install the package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:05] <oem> genii: dennister hello
[19:05] <zus> one day i shall make an ap to correct spelling as you type like text message on phones
[19:07] <daskreech> zus: Or you could put a squiggly red line under it :)
[19:08]  * genii slides oem a coffee
[19:08] <zus> daskreech,  well lol,  it still send misspeled words HAHAHA
[19:09] <Ahmed\> ZUS ! man how are you, Well on Gnome or KDE i can't switch desktop :$
[19:10] <zus> Ahmed\,  hello
[19:10] <iconmefisto> Ahmed\: how do you switch desktops? keyboard?
[19:10] <James147> zus: Alot of kde compoents auto spell check, if your useing quasle right click the text bar and you can enable it :)
[19:10] <zus> Ahmed\,  when you login change the session
[19:11] <Ahmed\> I switced it by clicking or scrolling on those icons to switch
[19:11] <James147> zus: Although it seems not to work very well :S
[19:11] <zus> James147,  i like quasle but i like xcaht more....
[19:12] <Ahmed\> Change the session to ?  i mean i cant see those switch desktop icons anymore on KDE and on Gnome i do see but they does't woryk and the 3D effects doesnt works anymore even tho i selected :)
[19:12] <zus> funny i learned ktorrent cuz i couldnt figure out tramsission
[19:12] <iconmefisto> Ahmed\: does ctrl-F1, ctrl-F2, etc switch desktops?
[19:12] <patiqs> i've used mirc for long time , but i can't use this client ):
[19:13] <zus> patiqs,  what is mirc? how is it different than irc?
[19:13] <patiqs> i'd like to switch a hungarian server
[19:13] <patiqs> mirc is the most popular irc klient for w...
[19:14] <Ahmed\> No
[19:14] <patiqs> when i wrote /server irc.sote.hu ,, it worked
[19:16] <James147> Ahmed\: Do you have multiple desktops set up  | System settings -> Desktop -> Multiple Desktops -> "Number of desktops" |
[19:16] <Ahmed\> Let me see
[19:17] <Ahmed\> Yes there are 2 selected
[19:17] <Ahmed\> but not workign
[19:18] <James147> Ahmed\: change to the switching tab and see if there are shotcut keys set up for them
[19:18] <Ahmed\> But when you ZOOM out you can see 4 desktops
[19:19] <James147> Ahmed\: When you "zoom out" you don't see desktops, you see activities
[19:19] <zus> James147,  i kinda dont understand the desktop time activities
[19:19] <James147> Ahmed\: Activities can be linked to desktops and are what is shown on the desktop it self... desktops are what the windows are contained within
[19:20] <Ahmed\> Yes exactly, now i can switch but i cant get to the exact desktop which i am currentlu on I mean Default
[19:20] <Ahmed\> Yes right
[19:20] <James147> Ahmed\: zus: basically, desktops contains windows and activities contains widgets
[19:20] <Ahmed\> Yes James
[19:21] <daskreech> !hu
[19:21] <James147> Ahmed\: there is a widget called "Activity bar" to switch to different activities if you want, or you can enable different activities on different desktops
[19:21] <Ahmed\> Okay wait
[19:22] <Ahmed\> Yes James i checked and now i can see the folder activites :)
[19:23] <Ahmed\> But i dont need this what i need is just 2 desktops but not differents and that shortcuts to switch :) not this activity thin
[19:23] <zus> James147, im on a temprary 15 inch monitor lol zooming  out is so small...
[19:24] <Ahmed\> I guess i will set this thing :) Thanks Zus and James :)
[19:24] <Ahmed\> BR
[19:24] <Ahmed\> BRB
[19:24] <James147> zus: you should see it on my netbook, accedently zoomed out twice, could barly see the zoom in key :)
[19:26] <zus> James147,  lol. i have a 19 inch wide at home and i use a 15wide screens when im on the road....i dont own a laptop i lug my desktop yes im 1984 still
[19:26] <James147> zus: :D
[19:27] <zus> how can i use k mail to send email from respective accounts? i have 2 gmail but kmail sends with only one
[19:27] <patiqs> !irc
[19:29] <phoenix_> Jaimie: its not working. i think there is a problem with the game
[19:29] <Jaimie> what?!?!
[19:29] <phoenix_> Jaimie: sorry, its not for you
[19:29] <phoenix_> James147: its not working. i think there is a problem with the game
[19:29] <James147> phoenix_: but can you now use 3d accel without root?
[19:31] <phoenix_> ya. using this command "chmod 666 /dev/nvidia*"
[19:32] <phoenix_> James147: but i have to do it everytime i login. i didnt do the 666 permission part
[19:32] <phoenix_> James147: i cant find the file
[19:32] <James147> phoenix_: 666 give the owner, group and everyone read/write premisions
[19:33] <phoenix_> James147: oh
[19:33] <James147> phoenix_: what error do you getwhen you run the game?
[19:34] <phoenix_> James147: its similar to sudo
[19:34] <James147> phoenix_: no, sudo makes you root, chmod changes the premisions of filess
[19:35] <phoenix_> James147: permenantly or temp?
[19:35] <James147> phoenix_: so the game runs as a normal user (you really should run it as root)
[19:35] <James147> phoenix_: preminently, but /dev is a spical place that list devices and isent actually on your hard drive, so gets rewritten at boot
[19:36] <phoenix_> James147: i know that
[19:36] <phoenix_> James147: device metaphor
[19:37] <phoenix_> James147: what are the best games that you have played in linux
[19:38] <zus> whats the lucid channel?
[19:38] <James147> phoenix_: wormux was fun :) (worms clone) but I tend to use windows for gaming when i do
[19:38] <James147> zus: #ubuntu+1
[19:40] <zus> James147,  t/y
[19:43] <phoenix_> James147: downloading wormux
[19:43] <zus> hmm can i get ubuntu cloud on kubuntu? and how
[19:44] <zus> nvm i got to head out lil check laterl..
[19:47] <rork> !games | phoenix_
[19:47] <rork> if you're looking for some ;)
[19:47] <phoenix_> rork: thank you
[19:56] <mahmoud> hi
[19:56] <mahmoud> mmmmm
[19:56] <mahmoud> any one online ?
[19:57] <mahmoud> or not away ??
[19:57] <James147> !Hello | mahmoud
[19:57] <mahmoud> hi james
[19:57]  * djustice hugs mahmoud
[19:57] <mahmoud> so
[19:57] <mahmoud> is this chat for asking questions ?
[19:58] <djustice> mahmoud: this is indeed a support channel. :)
[19:58] <James147> mahmoud: questions, general chat is in #kubuntu-offtopic
[19:58] <mahmoud> looooooooooooool
[19:58] <mahmoud> its my first time to kde
[19:58] <mahmoud> and ubuntu at all
[19:58] <mahmoud> so
[19:58] <mahmoud> im new at this world looool
[19:59] <djustice> mahmoud: ah. congratz. and happy hacking. :) we have fish. and cookies. and doobies.
[19:59] <mahmoud> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[19:59] <djustice> mahmoud: it is a very different world here. but for lots of very good reasons.
[19:59] <mahmoud> you know
[19:59] <mahmoud> i love it
[20:00] <mahmoud> my current word is :
[20:00] <mahmoud> fuck windows
[20:00] <mahmoud> hug for open world
[20:00] <mahmoud> its the future
[20:00] <James147> !language | mahmoud
[20:00] <djustice> mahmoud: hehehe. windows was an important peice of humanity for a while. but yea. the future is kde.
[20:00] <djustice> mahmoud: oh yea, this channel is moderated. they'll getcha for cursing and using <return> too much...
[20:01] <mahmoud> sorry james
[20:01] <James147> mahmoud: Just warning you, :)
[20:01] <mahmoud> im so happy gays
[20:01] <mahmoud> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[20:01] <mahmoud> sorry for dab words
[20:01] <mahmoud> bad words
[20:02] <arch0njw> !flood
[20:02] <djustice> mahmoud: try #kde-cafe or #kubuntu-offtopic :) we dont care so much in social places... this channel is just for helping newbs pretty much.
[20:02] <arch0njw> !ask]
[20:02] <arch0njw> !ask
[20:02] <mahmoud> ok
[20:02] <mahmoud> i will ask
[20:02] <mahmoud> first thing
[20:03] <[Relic]> is there an nvidia settings repair page somewhere?
[20:03] <mahmoud> last night i already installed my first torrent tracker
[20:03] <arch0njw> mahmoud: please ask all on one-line.  Using return too often makes the conversation/s really hard to follow.
[20:03] <James147> mahmoud: and it anoys FloodBotK1
[20:04] <mahmoud> how  to use return to ??
[20:04] <arch0njw> James147: mahmoud: and ppl like me who look at IRC from time to time and are "irked" to see a series of messages all from the same person that could have been one nessage.
[20:05] <arch0njw> mahmoud: simply ask your question.  If you need to explain or preable it, please send that in the same message.
[20:05] <mahmoud> ok
[20:05] <arch0njw> [Relic]: what do you mean an nvidia settings repair page?
[20:06] <[Relic]> something got screwed after I rebooted now I want my monitor back to its full size, but I can't even find the system hardware list in 9.10
[20:06] <mahmoud> as i say its my first tracker and im the administrator so im the only seedr for now . should i open port in my router to seed well for my leechers ?
[20:07] <James147> [Relic]: If your useing teh nvidia propraity driver "nvidia-xconfig" and "nvidia-settings" (run as root) can help recreate your xorg.conf file
[20:07] <arch0njw> [Relic]: that sounds like you need to run the x reconfig.  I need to look that up.
[20:08] <arch0njw> [Relic]: or what James147 said :)
[20:09] <[Relic]> there is no nvidia-xconfig
[20:09] <arch0njw> mahmoud: So after all that... I am hoping someone else knows more about torrent clients.  My -guess- would be that you would need to open the port on your router -- that is the only way "outsiders" can get to what you are sharing.
[20:09] <[Relic]> or maybe it just errors out
[20:10] <James147> [Relic]: Do you ahve the propriaty nvidia drivers installed?
[20:10] <arch0njw> [Relic]: have you checked /etc/X11 to see if you have a backup of your xorg.conf?
[20:11] <[Relic]> seemed to have worked the second run, but still showing unknown monitor
[20:11] <phoenix_> James147: one small infi. i have to reinstall my nvidia drivers for every kerel update.after with my system works good
[20:11] <arch0njw> [Relic]: "unknown monitor" happens.
[20:11] <arch0njw> phoenix_: wow... that's odd.  I don't have to, BUT I do notice that they automatically reconfigure with each update.
[20:12] <[Relic]> the unknown monitor doesn't allow the resolutions to get high enough for the monitor
[20:12] <[Relic]> brb
[20:12] <phoenix_> arch0njw: what is your graphics card model
[20:13] <arch0njw> phoenix_: GeForce 7900 GS
[20:13] <mahmoud> tracker support system saying : With PID system your seeding status working fin but now im seeding file for leecher and it works bad
[20:14] <BluesKaj> arch0njw, install the nvidia-glx-190 driver
[20:14] <phoenix_> arch0njw: mine is 9400gt. i read somewhare that this problem existsfor 9 series
[20:15] <arch0njw> BluesKaj: why do I want to install the 190 driver?
[20:15] <arch0njw> phoenix_: Hrm... odd.  Not sure what is going on then.
[20:16] <arch0njw> [Relic]: if you don't have a backup of your xorg.conf you can restore, the only other thing I can think of trying is running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg".  That has bailed me out of a few mistakes when I didn't backup the xorg.conf first.
[20:17] <James147> arch0njw: he left
[20:17] <arch0njw> James147: oh.  I turned off part/quit notification as that was overflooding the chat for me.
[20:17] <BluesKaj> arch0njw,  after installing the driver do sudo nvidia-xconfig, after this your montor should work properly with X.
[20:18] <arch0njw> BluesKaj: it was [Relic] who was having the trouble :)
[20:18] <phoenix_> i have installed nvidia driver version 190.53 for 9400gt. is that the correct one
[20:19] <BluesKaj> arch0njw, ok sorry .. dinnertime bbl
[20:20] <[Relic]> whee fun, now kubuntu starts in 640x480 mode
[20:22] <phoenix_> [Relic]: have you reinstalled the drivers
[20:22] <[Relic]> any ideas on how to get the nvidia stuff to keep the proper setting and restart properly
[20:22] <[Relic]> reinstalled them today when it screwed up after a bug fix update
[20:23] <rainy-day> Where can I change keyb. shortcut to lock screen?
[20:23] <phoenix_> did you use the driver from the nvidia page
[20:23] <rainy-day> yes.. thanks will look there
[20:23] <arch0njw> phoenix_: pls use the nick you are addressing.  I think some mixup is happening.
[20:24] <phoenix_> arch0njw: sorry
[20:24] <phoenix_> [Relic]: did you use the driver from the nvidia page
[20:24] <arch0njw> rainy-day: system settings, keyboard and mouse, global keyboard shortcuts, choose "KWin" from "KDE Component"
[20:24] <arch0njw> phoenix_: np
[20:24] <[Relic]> used the packgage drivers
[20:25] <James147> rainy-day: System setitngs -> Keyboad and Mouse -> Global Keyboard settings -> "KDE Compoent" -> Run command Interface -> "lock session"
[20:25] <arch0njw> rainy-day: oops.  my bad.  What James147 said!
[20:26] <rainy-day> awesome, thanks James147 and arch0njw
[20:26] <phoenix_> [Relic]: try to install the driver from the nvidia webpage and at the time of installation it will promt for permission for modifing the xorg.cong file, select yes and proceed
[20:26] <phoenix_> [Relic]: the driver has to be installed in the console mode
[20:27] <phoenix_> [Relic]: what is your card model
[20:27] <[Relic]> gt8600
[20:27] <Ahmed\> Hi
[20:27] <[Relic]> card ain't the problem the config seems to be the main problem
[20:28] <arch0njw> !hi | Ahmed\
[20:28] <mahmoud> ؟؟
[20:28] <Ahmed\> How to turn off tab chatting on kopete ??
[20:28] <[Relic]> was working fine before today
[20:28] <Ahmed\> Thanks :)
[20:28] <James147> [Relic]: have you tryed setting things up in "nvidia-settings"?
[20:28] <phoenix_> [Relic]: here is the download link-->http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.09.html
[20:29] <mahmoud> شاةثي
[20:29] <mahmoud> ahmed
[20:29] <phoenix_> James147: i think what relic is facing has happened to me. i did the same thing and its working well
[20:29] <Ahmed\> Yeah ?
[20:30] <phoenix_> [Relic]: are you downloading the driver
[20:30] <mahmoud> settinges
[20:30] <Ahmed\> okay and
[20:30] <mahmoud> configur
[20:30] <Ahmed\> yeah and
[20:30] <mahmoud> behavior
[20:31] <Ahmed\> actually i had did that on KDE 4.3 but after updates i lost all the settings
[20:31] <[Relic]> how does that change the monitor settings so it knows what monitor to use and the monitors settings?
[20:31] <mahmoud> chat
[20:31] <Ahmed\> Ijat
[20:31] <Ahmed\> Okay
[20:31] <mahmoud> uncheck always show tabs
[20:31] <Ahmed\> Now ?
[20:31] <James147> Ahmed\: Kopete -> Settings -> Configure... -> Behaviour -> Chat -> "Chat Window Grouping Policy"
[20:31] <Ahmed\> The first one
[20:31] <phoenix_> [Relic]: you driver is broken, you have to reinstall it
[20:31] <arch0njw> !ask
[20:31] <Ahmed\> James you alwats helps me :$ thanks dude
[20:32] <phoenix_> [Relic]: for me it happens for every kernel update
[20:33] <Ahmed\> James, KDE is running so slow i mean it never were on KDE 4.3 what do i do ! :)
[20:34] <James147> Ahmed\: what version are you running and how it is "slow"?
[20:34] <Ahmed\> I am on Kopete as usual and Playing an MP3 and one window from Dolphin and IRC thats it 4
[20:35] <James147> Ahmed\: what version of kde?
[20:35] <Ahmed\> KDE 4.4 the latest
[20:35] <Ahmed\> on KK
[20:36] <James147> Ahmed\:  Try disabling "desktop effects" and see if its any better, if it is and you still want effects try to remove some of the effects  you dont care about
[20:36] <Ahmed\> Okay
[20:37] <Ahmed\> I did
[20:37] <Ahmed\> ANd now seems smooth
[20:37] <Ahmed\> :)
[20:37] <mahmoud> what is mini Req for displaying my desktop with full effects ??
[20:38] <James147> mahmoud: Not that high I don't think, but I don't know the exact numbers. I think 3d accel is required though
[20:38] <James147> mahmoud: Best think is to try it and see, if its too slow try disabling some effects
[20:39] <mahmoud> my current apps mozilla firefox ( 25 tab ) , mp3 player , kopete and the irc client
[20:40] <mahmoud> + gftp , utorrent
[20:40] <mahmoud> and alot of thing first time to see it looool
[20:41] <mahmoud> working fine with full desktop effect and my pc ram 512 pro 2.6
[20:41] <mahmoud> is that is fine or what ?
[20:42] <Ahmed\> Okay well guys, I am having a ATI's Shared graphics card and it takes about a GB of RAM so total @ 1300 MB around, So why is the KDE running slow i mean when i turn the Extra features on , Or lets say Show i upgrade the VGA card! once and for all
[20:42] <James147> mahmoud: 512mb of ran should be fine as long as you don't do any mem intensive tasks (gaming, larg image processcing etc..)
[20:43] <Ahmed\> James you just gaved my answer
[20:43] <Ahmed\> :$
[20:45] <[Relic]> so I should remove the nvidia drivers and reinstall them from the packages and then it will detect the monitor properly and give the correct vesa and resolutions settings?
[20:46] <Ahmed\> James, Does Linux Ubuntu KDE works on a macbook pro ?
[20:46] <James147> [Relic]: Possibally... but if nothing else has helped you can try it
[20:46] <James147> Ahmed\: As far as I know yes
[20:46] <Ahmed\> oh great
[20:47] <Ahmed\> So is it true MAC OSX all are unix based ?
[20:47] <[Relic]> I'll try the 173 package and get rid of the 180 ones
[20:48] <James147> Ahmed\: Yes, as are many other operating systems
[20:49] <Ahmed\> Oh , Well so what's the key differences between Linux And OSX ? lightly i guess not much ? is t
[20:49] <Ahmed\> it
[20:51] <James147> Ahmed\: OSX is proprietary, linux is open source... There are many different apps for both paltforms and both offer a different experince
[20:51] <James147> Ahmed\: Most notabally OSX is very very hardware dependent, where as linux is very hardware independent
[20:52] <Ahmed\> Oh you just told the key difference !
[20:52] <Ahmed\> How can i be assure or Linux's Security ? I mean i do know windows so well !
[20:53] <Ahmed\> OF not OR
[20:55] <[Relic]> is there some sort of package that will replace the defective network manager that seems to randomly start the lan connection?
[20:55] <TNZ> INFO : Catalyst 10.3 are working on Kubuntu64 ... fluidity and so on
[20:58] <TNZ> Relic >> Your version of KDE ?
[20:58] <James147> Ahmed\: security in linux (as with other systems) is a large topic and I cannot really comment on it now... try reading around if you want to know more about it there is plenty of source material out there (although alot of it is very biased)
[20:58] <[Relic]> whatever is with 9.10
[20:59] <TNZ> ??? Catalyst 9.10 ?
[20:59] <[Relic]> removed the nvidia drivers and didn't realise the stupid thing didn't startt the lan connection so there is no x anything on the system, now I have to dig up some nvidia drivers to maybe get it working again
[21:00] <[Relic]> sometimes have to start the computer multiple times to get the lan working with the knetwork manager thing
[21:00] <mahmoud> message archive for kopete how to enable it ?
[21:02] <[Relic]> sorry if I am a little laggy here, I am running between the working computer and the not working one
[21:02] <new_bember> have no any troubles with knetwork and wifi connection
[21:02] <new_bember> mahmoud: archive or history?
[21:03] <James147>  [Relic]: if your connected by cable (not wireless) try running "sudo dhclient" to get an internet connection
[21:03] <mahmoud> both if its avaliable
[21:03] <new_bember> also you should smoke some log files (-:
[21:03] <new_bember> seems you need history
[21:06] <TNZ> mahmoud >> Parameter menu > Configure > Modules icon and finally activate History module :)
[21:09] <TNZ> mahmoud, you get it ?
[21:09] <mahmoud> ىخ
[21:09] <mahmoud> no
[21:09] <mahmoud> searching for it right now
[21:14] <mahmoud> nothing
[21:15] <jemadux> one n00b question
[21:15] <[Relic]> I have dsl but all it did was try something and fail, not sure if the bad shut down which force the system bell to ring incessantly damaged the lan port (power error warning during shut down from live cd), or if it is simply bad programming
[21:16] <TNZ> mahmoud, aur you french ?
[21:16] <TNZ> are
[21:16] <mahmoud> loooool
[21:16] <mahmoud> no im not
[21:16] <mahmoud> why ?
[21:16] <TNZ> in french, il'll be quicker
[21:16] <TNZ> it'll
[21:17] <mahmoud> u r french ?
[21:17] <TNZ> normally, history mecanism is in Kopete's modules
[21:17] <TNZ> ben voui
[21:17] <TNZ> yep
[21:17] <mahmoud> je ne parle pa france
[21:18] <mahmoud> trying to learn it
[21:18] <lalalol> ce n'est pas difficile :p
[21:18] <TNZ> oka, let's continue in british blabla
[21:19] <lalalol> l'anglais = english
[21:19] <TNZ> so, have you found kopete's module in parameter window ?
[21:20] <mahmoud> there is no parameter window
[21:20] <mahmoud> what u mean with parameter window  ?
[21:20] <TNZ> I mean on the main window
[21:21] <TNZ> parameter menu
[21:21] <mahmoud> no
[21:21] <mahmoud> there is no module
[21:22] <TNZ> oka, may be yau have not insalled them ... let me have a look in synaptic
[21:22] <mahmoud> and ??
[21:23] <[Relic]> where do you find system information on this?  It used to be asimple click to get a list of the hardware stuff but I don't see that in 9.10
[21:24] <[Relic]> cannot find anything to set monitor or resolution information at all much less find what the system is seeing
[21:24] <TNZ> I was looking for a DEB package
[21:25] <TNZ> so ... what's your KDE version ?
[21:25] <mahmoud> me ?
[21:25] <TNZ> yes
[21:26] <mahmoud> wait
[21:26] <mahmoud> 4.3.2
[21:26] <Typos_King> [Relic]:    what are  you looking for?
[21:26] <TNZ> modules in kopete
[21:26] <arch0njw> Typos_King: [Relic]:  yeah!  There used to be a "System Information" thing in KDE.  I cannot find it now either.
[21:27] <TNZ> mahmoud can't find them
[21:27] <Typos_King> .. yeah... well... not sure
[21:27] <Typos_King> I recall it may have had... one...yeah, can't say, I had one but I think that was SuSE's stuff
[21:28] <Typos_King> [Relic]:    what are  you looking for? specifically?
[21:28] <TNZ> mahmoud, I'm using KDE 4.4.1 version and I've got a lot of modules in kopete
[21:28] <arch0njw> Typos_King: I remember it from KDE3
[21:28] <mahmoud> how to install them ??
[21:29] <Typos_King> arch0njw:    yeah, I'd think so too, I recall I think it was listed as Hardware Information
[21:29] <timo> hi
[21:29] <timo> jemand da
[21:29] <Typos_King> but anyhow, there are several ways to get such, and there are at least a couple of GUI apps I know offhand
[21:30] <Typos_King> !de | timo
[21:30] <timo> thx
[21:30] <timo> ok
[21:30] <arch0njw> Typos_King: [Relic]: I found this, but it is a "compile it yourself":  http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/stable+sysinfo+2.0?content=98808
[21:31] <Typos_King> arch0njw:    ubuntu itself comes with one already, and there's a frontend you can get from the repositiores
[21:31] <Typos_King> then again [Relic]   fainted or something
[21:33] <radar3d> hello anyone online?
[21:33] <arch0njw> !ask | radar3d
[21:35] <radar3d> the wubi web page I downloaded the installer, but it fails to download the program for installation.  I looked in the log and it points to "http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-netbook/daily-live/current/karmic-netbook-i386.metalink" and says file not found
[21:36] <radar3d> they have change the name of the file from "karmic" to Lucid" so the installer won't work
[21:36] <arch0njw> radar3d: that's not nice of them...
[21:36] <radar3d> nope
[21:37] <arch0njw> I recommend the liveCD instead then.  You can make a bootable USB flash drive from it if you need to.
[21:37] <Typos_King> yeah
[21:38] <James147> wonder why its looking in the "daily-live"? isent that for prerelease? which makes sence that they renamed it to lucid
[21:38] <arch0njw> James147: indeed
[21:39] <radar3d> I don't know I'm just reporting what the error log pointed to and there is no such directory there
[21:39] <James147> radar3d: which leads me to ask, are you trying to install the beta version or stable?
[21:39] <radar3d> I'm going for newbie first install on netbook
[21:40] <DarkwingDuck> radar3d: You'll love it
[21:40] <radar3d> not if I can't get it installed LOL
[21:40] <DarkwingDuck> ?
[21:40] <DarkwingDuck> radar3d: having problems with it?
[21:41] <radar3d> yep
[21:41] <ryrych> hi, I got the following outpur message when running picard (a id3 tagger): (24328) KSycocaPrivate::openDatabase: Trying to open ksycoca from  "/var/tmp/kdecache-wojtek/ksycoca4" how to solve it?
[21:41] <Typos_King> radar3d:    soooo, what are you trying to install?
[21:41] <James147> radar3d: try downloading the karmic live cd and useing the wubi installer in there
[21:41] <Typos_King> 8.x? 9.x?
[21:41] <DarkwingDuck> radar3d: what's the issue?
[21:41] <radar3d> the wubi installer points to wrong location for files
[21:42] <DarkwingDuck> may I ask why you are instally via wubi?
[21:42] <DarkwingDuck> s/instally/installing
[21:43] <Typos_King> radar3d:    soooo, what are you trying to install?  8.x? 9.x?
[21:43] <radar3d> Whatever will work, never used it before tried out redhat years ago
[21:47] <radar3d> so what do I do from here?
[21:48] <James147> radar3d: hmm, seemed to work for me, you should try redownloading it see if it helpes (http://wubi-installer.org/)
[21:49] <radar3d> when did you try it, and did you try the kubuntu netbook one?
[21:49] <Typos_King> ryrych:     did it ever run?
[21:49] <James147> yes, although I did it in wine :p but it dident seem to ahve any errors
[21:49] <Typos_King> radar3d:    sooo   get 9.1 then, the live-cd  and from it you can also make a live-usb
[21:49] <James147> radar3d: give me a min and I will test it on a windows box
[21:49] <Typos_King> and install from there
[21:49] <ryrych> Typos_King: yes, but crashes at searching
[21:50] <Typos_King> ryrych:     as far as I can tell is a bad install of picard
[21:51] <Typos_King> ryrych:     remove it, purge the config files, retry
[21:51] <radar3d> trying the regular ubuntu version on netbook seems to be at least pointed to the right web site
[21:52] <Typos_King> k
[21:52] <[Relic]> doubt this will hold but I am up to 1152 res
[21:52] <James147> radar3d: you can always try the normal kubuntu version and install the netboox package manually (kubuntu-netbook)
[21:53] <radar3d> What is the diff between kubuntu and unbuntu?
[21:53] <Typos_King> unbuntu? hehh
[21:53] <James147> radar3d: mostly kbuntu used the kde desktop interface and ubuntu use gnome
[21:53] <radar3d> ubuntu'
[21:53] <Typos_King> radar3d:    difference is only the desktop and window manager
[21:53] <radar3d> ohhh I remeber them from my redhat days
[21:53] <radar3d> I liked gnome better I think
[21:54] <James147> radar3d: you should try kde again, it has changes ALOT recently
[21:54] <ryrych> Typos_King has't helped and got segmentation fault :)
[21:54] <radar3d> hmmm I guess it can't hurt but their link is broken
[21:55] <iconmefisto> radar3d: or try both gnome and kde, switch from one to the other
[21:55] <Typos_King> ryrych:     I'd try an older different version, I'd think there should be one avaiable, what version are you installing?
[21:55] <radar3d> LOL tiny 16GB netbook ramdrive
[21:55] <new_bember> hey guys, whats wrong with powerdevil in kde 4.4.1? After startup it choose dynamic cpu policy, how can I change it to performance policy by default?
[21:56] <James147> radar3d: once you have one version of ubuntu installed you can easly install the others from within it
[21:56] <ryrych> Typos_King 0.11
[21:56] <Typos_King> ryrych:    I'm guessing this isn't in lucid 10.04?
[21:57] <ryrych> Typos_King: No, karmic (Kubuntu)
[21:57] <Typos_King> ryrych:    http://ftp.riken.go.jp/pub/Linux/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/picard/     maybe an older or newer version may do
[21:57] <Phoenixz> Question.. My dad is using Kubuntu 9.10.. He has a canon printer, which as first was automatically recognized, no problem at all, all worked fine (minus scanning, but thats another subject).. Then suddenly the priunter just didnt print anymore. Nothing worked, so I decided to delete the printer and have KDE automatically add it again..
[21:57] <Phoenixz> problem is, KDE is not recognizing the printer whatsoever
[21:57] <James147> new_bember: System settings -> Advances (tab) -> Power Managment -> Edit Profiles -> (profile you want to edit probally preformance) -> CPU and system
[21:57] <Phoenixz> When I try to add it, all I have is a button "add network printer" and "add new printer class"..
[21:58] <Phoenixz> Its a USB printer, NOT a network printer..
[21:58] <Phoenixz> I tried "add network printer" where I have lots of options, but no USB printer.. plus I have to specify lots of stuff manually thta I don't know..
[21:58] <Phoenixz> How can I have Kubuntu detect the printer automatically again?
[21:59] <iconmefisto> Phoenixz: sounds like a connection problem. tried a different usb port, or remove and reinsert usb connection
[22:00] <new_bember> James147: no sucsess.. anyway after bootup powerdevil choose dynamic policy
[22:00] <new_bember> Phoenixz: try TurboPrint
[22:01] <James147> new_bember: any reason you `need` it to be set to preformance? dynamic is the best option in most cases
[22:01] <radar3d> so how do I do the get live version and make usb??/
[22:01] <James147> radar3d: unetbootin is the easiest way
[22:01] <arch0njw> !unetbootin
[22:01] <James147> radar3d: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[22:02] <new_bember> James147: I`ve laptop.. 99% of time used at home or at office for hardwork.. I need more performance (-:
[22:02] <radar3d> Thanks guys will check it out
[22:02] <Typos_King> radar3d:    sooo   get 9.1 then, the live-cd  and from it you can also make a live-usb
[22:03] <James147> new_bember: changing it to `preformance` is going to make very little difference dynamic will automatacally up your cpu speed when it needs to with very very little noticable effect if any
[22:03] <radar3d> I'll try typos_king
[22:03] <ryrych> Typos_King: newest version solved the problem - thanks :)
[22:04] <James147> new_bember: your going to get better preformnce by optimising other parts of the laptop, like disabling desktop effects cloing unused windows
[22:04] <new_bember> James147: well, let it be.. thank you man
[22:04] <new_bember> yes this is done.. also I use custom kernel
[22:04] <iconmefisto> Phoenixz: if you want to confirm the printer is connecting thru usb, in konsole: tail -f /var/log/messages  and then plug in the usb connector. you should see a message when you plug it in
[22:04] <James147> new_bember: and ironically dynamic is better at powersaving then the powersaving scheme :S
[22:05] <new_bember> haha
[22:05] <new_bember> James147: maybe you know how to make conky background transparent in kde?
[22:05] <James147> new_bember: conky?
[22:06] <arch0njw> !conky
[22:06] <arch0njw> doh... doesn't know :(
[22:07] <arch0njw> James147: http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[22:07] <new_bember> James147: yes
[22:07] <arch0njw> James147: You can install conky from the repositories (sudo apt-get install conky)
[22:08] <katie> hello everyone
[22:08] <mahmoud_> ????
[22:09] <mahmoud_> hi katie
[22:09] <James147> new_bember: not sure... but you can force kwin to make it transparent by Alt+F3 -> Advanced -> Spical Application prefences -> Preferences -> Active opacity in % | In active opacity in %
[22:10] <new_bember> James147: I`m use Compiz instead kwin
[22:10] <James147> new_bember: Then I cannot help :p
[22:10] <new_bember> James147: not a problem, thank you anyway
[22:10] <James147> new_bember: any reason your using compiz instead of kwin?
[22:13]  * smatt454 is away: I'm busy
[22:15] <Phoenixz> iconmefisto: gets weird.. dont see anything
[22:16] <iconmefisto> Phoenixz: bad cable maybe?
[22:17] <Typos_King> Phoenixz:     did you have it plugged in BEFORE booting up the machine?
[22:18] <iconmefisto> Phoenixz: you can try lsusb command too, see what is listed
[22:19] <Phoenixz> iconmefisto:  Typos_King: Checking cables now yeah.. already tried lsusb, shows nothing.. means its bad on a much lower level
[22:19] <Phoenixz> or just cable loose :P
[22:20] <iconmefisto> Phoenixz: lsusb shows no printer? or nothing at all?
[22:20] <jovis> do you have her number?
[22:20] <jovis> cable?
[22:20] <Phoenixz> iconmefisto: lsusshows stuff, but no printer
[22:20] <jovis> if she's loose...
[22:22] <Phoenixz> iconmefisto: okay, cabel check done, printer on, lsusb now shows canon.. thats a good start..
[22:23] <iconmefisto> Phoenixz: probably reboot is easiest way to set it up now. should happen automatically
[22:24] <Typos_King> yeah
[22:56] <me> hi all
[23:04] <Typos_King> allo
[23:17] <tiorody> I'm back
[23:24] <tiorody> oops... I'm having troubles with the screen length
[23:26] <tiorody> Hello, guys. Is it true that kubuntu 10 is right on the way?
[23:30] <sp1d3r> hello hello
[23:31] <sp1d3r> anyone here?
[23:31] <DarkwingDuck> sp1d3r: can we help you?
[23:31] <Typos_King> sorta
[23:32] <sp1d3r> I am sorry.. I am new here and just wanted to see why no one was talking
[23:32] <DarkwingDuck> :) Lurking
[23:32] <Typos_King> sp1d3r:
[23:32] <Typos_King> woops
[23:33] <sp1d3r> wow this is a lot different.. this IRC
[23:34] <Vroomfondle> sp1d3r: IRC is a bit more laid-back than some other chat contexts.
[23:34] <Vroomfondle> people tend to hang around for a long time, occasionally dipping in.
[23:34] <Vroomfondle> so sometimes it seems like no-one's here
[23:34] <Typos_King> sp1d3r:   Õ¿Õ
[23:34] <sp1d3r> yeah thats what I intend to do as well.. just need to fond the proper room.. or is it called channel here?
[23:35] <ForgeAus> seems that way
[23:35] <ForgeAus> but not necessarily is
[23:35] <Vroomfondle> it's called a channel, usual
[23:35] <Vroomfondle> usually
[23:35] <ForgeAus> room is synonymous with channel on IRC
[23:35] <sp1d3r> i see.. how do u search channels?
[23:35] <ForgeAus> although if getting technical I think channel is the more correct term to be used...
[23:35] <ForgeAus> uh I don't recommend you do it but there is a /list command
[23:36] <ForgeAus> or use the web on undernet's website if they have a listing there
[23:36] <ForgeAus> oops freenode sorry
[23:36] <ForgeAus> wrong server group
[23:36] <sp1d3r> and why is that you dont recommend a list?
[23:36] <ForgeAus> if not theres also a searchirc website, but thats all server groups it knows about...
[23:37] <James147> sp1d3r: if your looking for a spific cannel asking can lead you to the right place :)
[23:37] <rmrfslash> i'm having issues connectiong to my landlords verizon fios router
[23:37] <ForgeAus> because the server is much better used to operate chat than sending out long lists of channels
[23:37] <rmrfslash> my wife's macbook can connect just fine (what a surprise) however when I put the credentials into knetworkmanager... it's a no-go
[23:37] <rmrfslash> I know it's WEP
[23:37] <sp1d3r> why do some messages appear highlighted and others dont?
[23:37] <rmrfslash> and her machine confirms the network is accepting a WEP password
[23:37] <rmrfslash> can someone perhaps give me a hand?
[23:38] <ForgeAus> (what I mean is it places a burden on the surver to send you the list if you ask for it, not that it can't be done, its just not a great way of doing it)
[23:38] <James147> rmrfslash: you sueing knetworkmanager?
[23:38] <Typos_King> rmrfslash:      install -> sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome;   and ditch knetworkmanager :)
[23:38] <Vroomfondle> sp1d3r: the highlight probably means you've been mentoned in the message
[23:38] <Vroomfondle> it depends on the IRC client, and on your settings
[23:38] <sp1d3r> i see forgeAus
[23:38] <rmrfslash> Not sure how to troubleshoot this. I've been able to connect to just about every network and all of a sudden this one is giving me trouble
[23:38] <Typos_King> rmrfslash:      afaik, gnome's nm handles networks better, thus
[23:38] <rmrfslash> See, I had to do this last time... install *another* frickin network manager
[23:38] <sp1d3r> and yes u r right Vrmm.. all the messages that I am mentioned in appear highlighted
[23:39] <Typos_King> hehe
[23:39] <sudokode> ohai
[23:39] <Vroomfondle> sp1d3r: to fill out my name, type e.g. "vro" then press tab
[23:39] <rmrfslash> why is kubuntu's network manager always such a frickin joke
[23:39] <rmrfslash> this is something they seriously need to work on
[23:39] <ForgeAus> sp1d3r:  thats a fucntion of your particualr client program they don't all do that
[23:39] <Typos_King> rmrfslash:      well, my gripe will only be about knetworkmanager only :)
[23:39] <James147> rmrfslash: try chaging "Authentication" in the wep page from open system to sharedd key
[23:39] <sudokode> just use wicd
[23:39] <sp1d3r> aah.. I get it Vroomfondle
[23:39] <rmrfslash> and the plasmoid network manager used to work well
[23:39] <rmrfslash> James147: tried it... but let me try again
[23:40] <sp1d3r> my linux box is pretty boring looking.. I saw on youtube how people have Uber Cute linuxboxes
[23:40] <sudokode> =\
[23:41] <sudokode> http://omploader.org/vM3k4bg
[23:42] <rmrfslash> James147: Tried it... the behavior is when I plug in the password, select Shared Key and hit OK the window returns immediately again asking for a password. I tried this a couple times. Then, when I switch it back to Open System it accepts the password but just sits there "Activating" indefinitely
[23:42] <sp1d3r> yeah that would be one of them
[23:42] <Typos_King> sp1d3r:   you can add funky themes and many 'eye-candy' stuff
[23:42] <DarkwingDuck> mine is farly basic... KNR 10.04b on a tablet
[23:42] <Typos_King> rmrfslash:      install -> sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome;   and ditch knetworkmanager :)
[23:42] <sp1d3r> Typos_King: right.. so I have heard.. but I just have not been able to do that... see I am kinda noob
[23:43] <sudokode> lol
[23:43] <Typos_King> !themes | sp1d3r
[23:43] <rmrfslash> Typos_King: doing this now... sadly
[23:43] <Typos_King> rmrfslash:      is pretty reliable to me :)
[23:43] <rmrfslash> This is why I am afraid sometimes to using Linux on a laptop.
[23:43] <sp1d3r> thanks Typos_King and ubottu
[23:44] <rmrfslash> What if it's a bug in the network manager... what do you do?
[23:44] <DarkwingDuck> http://kde-look.org is for KDE vice Gnome
[23:44] <rmrfslash> how do you download the source to patch it
[23:45] <Typos_King> rmrfslash:      I think the patches and stuff will be in the 'backports' packages, but I'd not bother
[23:45] <Typos_King> rmrfslash:      not to mention gnome's nm UI is much simpler
[23:45] <Vroomfondle> sp1d3r: ubottu is a bot :) Just a computer program which does our bidding
[23:45] <Vroomfondle> we are its masters, mwahahah
[23:45] <sp1d3r> ooops... lol
[23:46] <DarkwingDuck> Typos_King: we are testing a new NM plasmoid that is actually quite simple to use
[23:46] <Typos_King> m....mmm
[23:46] <Typos_King> :)
[23:47] <DarkwingDuck> Oh yeah, Not sure if it will make the 10.04 cut or not yet...
[23:48] <sp1d3r> i have a question.. worth an ask.. I have a  ubuntu box with two Hdds, the first (HDA) has been partitioned into two partitions.. the first partition holds ubuntu and the second is just songs and stuff, I was wondering if the second partiion and the second drive could be made to look like one big drive
[23:50] <James147> sp1d3r: not easily if it is at all possible
[23:50] <sp1d3r> figured.. thanks though James147
[23:50] <James147> sp1d3r: one thing you can do it mount the one inside the other
[23:51] <DarkwingDuck> sp1d3r: do you have an external HDD or, enough room on the first partition to hold the information on the second one
[23:52] <sp1d3r> i do have an external hard drive, but the two drives I am talking about are both internal
[23:52] <Vroomfondle> sp1d3r: if you were starting from scratch you could use LVM to do it, but as there's already data on it then you might find it tricky
[23:52] <avihay> sp1d3r: It's possible. look for software raid on linux
[23:52] <rmrfslash_> I just installed the plasma-widget-network-manager and I cannot even find the sucker in the Add Widgets list. Anyone?
[23:52] <Typos_King> sp1d3r:   yes it can be done.... move over your music content to an external storage, delete that partition, resize the other take all free space, then dump your music back in :)
[23:52] <sp1d3r> cool.. thanks avihay
[23:52] <sp1d3r> but Typos_King they are two separate physical drives
[23:53] <Typos_King> sp1d3r:    .. yes.... is called a 'Raid array'.... if you wish, you can check in google
[23:53] <sp1d3r> Typos_King: thanks, I will check it out right away
[23:54] <Typos_King> well.... raid or clustering I think, raid is a bit different
[23:54] <sp1d3r> i wanna do a JBOD .. well kinda
[23:54] <avihay> and like Vroomfondle, you'll probably need to reformat the partitions in the process
[23:55] <sp1d3r> Vroomfondle: i could get the data out of there,.,, its not important data
[23:55] <Vroomfondle> sp1d3r: look into LVM or Linux Software RAID
[23:56] <sp1d3r> will do thanks Vroomfondle
[23:57] <biertie> anyone here that manned the kubuntu booth during chemnitzer linux tage?
[23:57] <Typos_King> chemnitzer?   bless you
[23:58] <biertie> why Typos_King ?
[23:59] <Typos_King> well
[23:59] <Typos_King> sounded like a sneeze, soooo
[23:59] <Typos_King> not sure what you're asking though
[23:59] <Typos_King> did you mean to refer to Grub boot?