[00:03] how can i use rsync to copy a folder of my windows client to my ubuntu server? [00:07] smoser: cookies in the lobby!!! [00:26] hggdh, you must know this: How do I add a stacktrace in a package hook script or it is added automatically? [00:30] RoAkSoAx: apport processing does it: (1) at hook time, the hook is called after a first-try on gdb tracing has been done; (2) at back-office, retrace time, gdb is run again === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [01:44] "m wondering if anyone can help. I'm trying to register memdisk as a kernel image on a private UEC but eucalyptus is not recognising it as such, i.e treating it as a normal image (emi-XXXXX) [01:44] the context is that i'm trying to get a win2k3 instance running on it with kvm. The same issue happens with registering the boot floppy as a ramdisk too [01:49] What is the syntax to wput a whole directory? I cannot seem to get it to work [01:50] Bookman: scp -r foo/ fs:bar/ [01:51] That works for an ftp connection [01:51] ? [01:53] http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie [01:55] Ok, but not sure that is going to help me out.:) [01:57] The only way to win with FTP is not to play [01:58] Ok, but how else to get a directory up to my webhost? I think they only support ftp protocol [01:59] Change webhost, or ask them for SFTP :-) [01:59] You can give them the same link [01:59] Ok. [02:13] Hi ppl...I am trying out UEC on my home network as my project and I have run into a problem as described in here...any help ?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/401512/ [02:14] My Image is up and running with IP assigned by my DHCP, But when i ssh it I am asked for a password which I dont have !! [02:15] guys...please help! [02:17] sorry, I don't know CentOS [02:18] Even with ubuntu uec image, I am asked for the password [02:18] debconf asks you to enter any passwords needed, there are no default ones set [02:18] I think the rsa key isn't getting injected, which might be a cause for the problem...but why ? [02:19] what's probably going on, is it's supposed to be using key auth [02:19] but you don't have the key [02:19] yes [02:19] I have generated the keypair successfully [02:19] But I feel it isnt taking it! [02:20] What does "Cannot determine ream for numeric host address" mean ? [02:23] couldnt find much on googling it too [02:23] anybody ? [02:24] No, I'm Psi-Jack. [02:25] I'm curious. Can Ubuntu install domU's as Debian-Lenny, by chance for Xen? [02:25] Im using KVM on UEC [02:25] As long as the domu has a domu-capable kernel, it shouldn't care, surely? [02:26] I don't care a spit about kvm. ;) [02:26] lol!..but that is what comes by default with uec [02:26] twb: You'd think. But. I just want to know if it's got xen-tools setup to be able to do it. [02:26] Sripa: Which is why I don't use uec. [02:26] Damned if I know [02:26] heh [02:27] What all other options we got ? [02:27] Xen [02:27] Pure Xen [02:27] I find it hard to believe that all these new UEC weenies actually have a compute farm to put the cloud on, and aren't just fapping into a bucket because it's the first virtualization system they found [02:27] Heh [02:28] I just downsized from 12 servers into almost 6 now, thanks to Xen methods and clustering a reasonably proper way. [02:28] I tried xen once, never actually got it to work [02:28] but that was a while ago, manual install [02:28] sorry for tht ppl, but what i need is a probable solution or suggestion as of now..any sugestions ? [02:28] It's not as "easy" as kvm is, for sure. [02:28] Yup, and am a newbie :( [02:28] of course I have no real use for it either [02:29] if I did I would have spent more time and figured out the problem [02:29] Yeaah. ;) [02:29] Well, I've been building a couple cluster machines just for that very purpose, both to learn and to use. [02:30] kvm has some use, but totally useless on systems I still have that have no hardware virtualization. [02:30] I don't have any VT-enabled hardware to spare [02:30] You don't need VT-enabled hardware specifically for Xen [02:30] Only kvm. [02:30] I am from india and I don have much support over here, I am a student and so trying to something..that is why stuck to uec [02:30] Sripa: UEC is probably not the best choice for a beginner. [02:31] Or enterprise for that matter. heh [02:31] I couldn't believe how unstable, unreliable, over bloated that thing was. [02:31] So do you suggest me to tryout Xen on Ubuntu server ? [02:31] kvm-qemu does work on non-VT hardware, but it's slow as molasses [02:32] virtualbox and vmware are faster, far as desktop virtualization goes [02:32] qman__: without VT, kvm-qemu is qemu. [02:32] Xen is just Xen. Very nice .;) [02:32] You could paravirtualize with kqemu, but it's flaky IME [02:32] twb ? [02:33] Should I be trying out Xen, but as you ppl said...it is really hard and I got less than 15days to complete all this! [02:33] Sripa: what are you actually trying to achieve? [02:33] I am trying to setup a private college for my campus to host applications on it [02:33] Sripa: Why do you have a time limit on learning? [02:33] private cloud sry [02:33] Great. [02:34] Grub2 on Ubuntu 9.10 doesn't like ext4 boot/. [02:34] We over here have a timelimit to do our project which sucks :( [02:34] Sripa: you don't need UEC if you only have one host [02:34] Now for setting up the cloud I am using UEC [02:35] I am clustering 500 odd computers of my college [02:35] Frackin A.. I just went through a full installation of ubuntu 9.10, and it fails to boot. [02:35] Psi-Jack-: unfortunately, neither does extlinux 3.x [02:35] But firstly I need to show a prototype..so I am trying it out on my home network [02:35] Sripa: ah, OK [02:35] With a two core2duo PC's [02:35] Sripa: then UEC is probably the right thing [02:36] * Psi-Jack- shivers. [02:36] yeah [02:36] I spent maybe 30 minutes looking at UEC. [02:36] I haven't done it myself, but UEC is really the only one with that sort of prebuilt kit around it [02:36] Yup, but I am running throught a few errors which I am unable to find a solution for [02:37] I couldnt find much support online, in forums too [02:37] Sripa: what errors ? [02:37] I guess UEC is still a new-bie [02:37] No offense to anyone here, but I would rather be hanging my my toenails, secured to my toes by nails, with lemon and sugar-dipped razerblades were slowly peeling away my flesh, before using UEC. [02:37] Errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/401512/ [02:37] Sripa: UEC didn't exist twelve months ago [02:37] Psi-Jack-: thats very vivid; you could tone it down just a little :) [02:37] * Psi-Jack- chuckles. [02:38] I can get my image running, but when i acces it, I am asked for apassword inspite of generatng a keypair successfully [02:38] Sripa: what user are you sshing into it as ? [02:38] Sripa, did you copy the key to your client? [02:38] That's exactly the part I hate /most/ about UEC. The SSL keypairs. [02:38] Psi-Jack-: do you mean ssh ? [02:38] No, I mean ssl. Which it uses SSL keys for. [02:38] In short, ssh ing it asks as password and the ssh sequence looks like the image at the bottom in this : http://adommeti.webs.com/imagesproject.htm [02:39] Sripa: please answer my question [02:39] How do I manually copy keys to client ? [02:39] lifeless: I am sshing it to root@IPaddress [02:39] that won't work [02:39] Doesn't UEC rely on read-only disk images? [02:39] of the running image [02:39] ssh to ubuntu@IPaddress [02:40] Yup, I tried that too...ubuntu@IP...same result! [02:40] twb: images are used to seed a filesystem, you can write to the fs of a running image [02:40] Sripa, IIRC I used ssh-copy-id to do it [02:40] twb: and its discarded [02:40] Sripa: ok, are you specifying the key name when you do euca-start-instances ? [02:40] lifeless: well, obviously -- a read-only disk image unioned with a cow [02:40] lifeless : Yes [02:40] twb: no, its not that [02:40] An ephemeral cow [02:41] lifeless: hmm [02:41] Alllriiighty then, trying this once again with an ext3 /boot, xfs / (instead of ext4), and RAID10+XFS /mnt/nas [02:41] How do I mount a filesystem of a running image ? while I cant access it and is asking for a password [02:41] Sripa: ok. and when you generated the key, did you save the private copy of it locally ? [02:42] Yes, I have it in my home directory "mykey.priv" [02:42] I can see it! [02:42] My question is, why DOES UEC use SSL keys for all this? [02:42] Sripa: try ssh -o mykey.priv ubuntu@ipaddress [02:42] sorry [02:42] Sripa: try ssh -i mykey.priv ubuntu@ipaddress [02:42] Psi-Jack-: what would you prefer [02:42] My root password. [02:42] wow [02:42] I did that, and it is what gave me that error in here http://adommeti.webs.com/imagesproject.htm [02:42] Psi-Jack-: so, symmetric crypto? [02:42] I haven't used a root password in years [02:42] No crypto. [02:43] Psi-Jack-: so basically you want to talk telnet to the cloud [02:43] That doesn't strike me as a good idea [02:43] Sripa: that error shows root as the username [02:43] Sripa: it has to be ubuntu [02:43] twb: That's what ssh is for. [02:43] Not to start/stop the instances of virtual machines. [02:44] I mean I have tried the same which i didnt capture, I did give the same error :( [02:44] This is what the euca-get-console-output like : http://paste.ubuntu.com/401528/ - any clue ? [02:44] To login, securely, and start/stop them, like Xen does easily without all this excessive bloat of SSL encrypting stuff. [02:44] Psi-Jack-: but starting/stopping a VM instance in the cloud will probably involve an RPC [02:44] Xen doesn't have to deal with that because the Dom0 is on the local host. [02:45] Precisely. :) [02:45] lifeless: As me if you need any info from logs, i have all of em [02:45] Ask me, sorry [02:45] Sripa: I'd like to see an error when you try with -i mykey.prive ubuntu@ [02:46] okay, gimme a few mins, is that fine ? [02:46] sure [02:46] I will have to reboot. brb [02:46] console output looks fine [02:46] twb, qman__: Keep in mind, too. I'm /very/ old school. I use a root password. Anytime I install Ubuntu, it's always the first thing I set. [02:46] Psi-Jack-: ssh isn't used to stop/start the vm's [02:47] Psi-Jack-: the accesskey/secretkey combination are used to do VM control via the API [02:47] Psi-Jack-: with priority=low or preseeding during installation, you can set it up during the install [02:47] heh [02:48] Unfortunately you have to jump through hoop to ensure that NO user has a valid password. [02:48] Yeah, I don't mind making it simple, and just doing it post-install. [02:48] Psi-Jack-: you can create a custom EMI with a root password set. Its easy. [02:48] It's just extremely bad practice to call sudo command, for everything you want to do as root, when you don't truely get all the environment of root by doing so. [02:49] you can with switches [02:49] Psi-Jack-: *root* is a bad design. RBACs are better. [02:49] Yeah, -i [02:49] -i only simulates a root login. [02:51] I am curious about this grub2, though for sure. [02:52] heh [02:52] well, it's only something like half-way done in 9.10 [02:52] Yeah? hmmm. [02:52] I'm surprised that grub2 can't talk ext4. [02:52] Well, 10.4's coming out soon. ;) [02:52] it actually has feature regressions from grub-legacy [02:52] yeah, here's to hoping they finish it [02:53] Son of a.. [02:53] extlinux 4.00~alpha does [02:53] It's STILL giving me Error 15 at boot [02:53] twb: hmm ? I boot grub2->ext4 just fine [02:53] It also boots from btrfs, but not with -ocompression :-( [02:53] lifeless: on lucid or karmic? [02:53] lucid [02:53] OK, so it does, but didn't. Shrug. [02:54] it was definitely jumping the gun in 9.10 [02:54] but I understand why they did it [02:54] qman__: Ubuntu jumping the gun is why I refuse outright to run non-LTS releases [02:54] Moving LDAP to in-database config was another one [02:55] heh, that's openldap, not ubuntu. [02:55] Well, the #openldap people said you guys fucked up [02:55] grub2 gave me all kinds of trouble, so I gave up and installed grub-legacy [02:55] Maybe they were lying, or I misunderstood them [02:55] worked great [02:56] I was a bit miffed that it wasn't an option during install [02:56] qman__: it should be, with sufficiently low priority [02:56] considering it's a fully supported configuration through upgrades [02:56] Okay, I'm pissed. [02:56] Psi-Jack-: what at ? [02:56] Error 15 on grub. [02:57] lifeless: he wants to boot grub2 on karmic *at all*. He initially had /boot on ext4 and it fell over, so now I think he's trying to get grub2 working after moving /boot to ext3. [02:57] SECOND install, this time with /boot as ext3 [02:57] and you've checked your device map is correct [02:57] ? [02:58] Hey, it just did it. I didn't tell it to do anything. :p [02:58] That device map is the bane of my existence [02:58] I have /boot on ext4 [02:58] worked fine in 9.10 and still works in 10.04 [02:58] I like syslinux's static MBR that just chainloads the boot sector of the first partition with the boot flag [02:59] I only just recently started putting /boot on ext3 [02:59] It doesn't care if the order of the disks changes [02:59] I used to use ext2, old habit thanks to gentoo [02:59] qman__: i thought they patched it to work with ext4 now [03:00] I did set my /boot as bootable, nothing else has it set bootable, cause it's mostly just a PATA 80GB with /boot, swap, /, and 4 SATA2-500's RAID10. [03:00] for a couple hundred megs, it doesn't really matter what filesystem you use as long as it works [03:01] Psi-Jack-: grub doesn't care about the boot flag [03:03] the boot flag only matters insofar as your BIOS loads grub [03:04] if it's installed to the MBR it doesn't matter at all [03:04] Yeah, I watched it install to MBR hd(0) [03:04] Which in the rescue mode of the ubuntu disc, it shows /dev/sde* as the drive I'm working with. [03:04] a, b, c, d are my SATA drives. [03:05] Psi-Jack-: you might want grub-install --recheck or whatever it is [03:05] lifeless you there ? [03:05] I had a similar problem on a system with three SATA disks [03:05] the solution ended up being changing the boot order [03:06] apparently the device map wasn't matching up with the boot order [03:06] The PATA drive /is/ primary for booting. [03:06] Sripa: ye [03:06] The #grub people say that device.map MIGHT be optional now; they weren't too sure [03:06] Ubuntu's been the only one failing this. Debian, OpenSUSE, no problem. Ubuntu, panics. [03:07] Psi-Jack-: does grub start up? if so hit shift, and edit the root etc definitions using tab complete to check whats working [03:07] lifeless: I have a crashed ubuntu :(..can I get back to you with the images I little while later ? [03:07] Sripa: me, or someone else, sure. [03:07] It starts with Error 15. [03:08] ok, If possible, please do respond [03:08] Thanks lifeless, see ya then..bye!:) [03:09] And yeah, device.map is 0 bytes [03:10] hi, is there a package which provides just an ldap-client ?? [03:11] is the ldap-client still "recommending" the server? [03:12] Interesting. [03:12] grub-install hd0, Cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sde1 . Check your device.map [03:12] Which is 0 bytes in size. [03:12] (hd0) /dev/sda [03:13] you want it to be soemthing like that [03:13] or (hd0) /dev/sde [03:13] or whatever [03:13] ldap-client is a virtual package i believe. [03:13] delete the device.map [03:13] and run sudo /usr/sbin/grub-install [03:15] lifeless: So make the contents of device.map (hd0) /dev/sde, then delete it, then rub grub-install. [03:15] Interesting. [03:15] no [03:15] just delete it [03:15] then run /usr/sbin/grub-install [03:16] It's saying (hd0) is /dev/sda now. heh [03:16] right [03:16] probably hd4 is sde [03:16] Yep [03:17] so, /usr/sbin/grub-install /dev/sda (or /dev/sde, or whatever) [03:17] then try rebooting [03:17] We have boot. ;)\ [03:17] I.. Think. [03:17] Yeah, it's booting now, finally. [03:18] And, of course, root password set. LOL [03:19] Fricken annoying though. [03:19] That's a definite bug in the installer for 9.10 [03:19] Cause it was sde, even in the installer, and it failed. [03:20] prolly installed it to one of my RAID'd drives, instead of the right one. [03:23] We should have a bot in here that tosses out a link if a new post ever comes up in the forums [03:23] ugh [03:24] lifeless: sorry, just sounded like a fun idea [03:27] lifeless: that was apparently a bad idea? [03:28] yes [03:28] if you want to be notified of forum events, subscribe to the forum [03:28] lifeless: i suppose that would work too [03:28] this is a discussion area, having noise in it is not a good thing [03:35] Well, that makes a HUGE difference in speed. ;) [03:36] Going from a RAID5 all PATA configuration on GigE, to a RAID10 all SATA2 with dual bonded-alp GigE. [03:48] Ugh. [03:48] * Psi-Jack- grunts. "Users aren't defaultly added to the "users" group.... [04:39] kirkland, ping? === swift_ is now known as swift === Airells is now known as airells [07:58] hello [07:58] is this amazon ec2 stuff a good replacement for a web hosting serer? [07:58] server [08:08] leku: it's probably expensive for a long-running not-so-much-active server [08:09] hm [08:09] look at the costs and decide by yourself ;) [08:09] yeah i just ran some numbers [08:09] is the first 10tb free? [08:09] I have no clue [08:09] i don't suspect so but it wasn't clear [08:09] k [08:14] 62$ a month [08:14] about === sourcode_ is now known as sourcode [09:46] I did and apt-get upgrade which crashed on 10.4, I ran the upgrade again and it completed but now I get the MOTD diplayed twice on login and one MOTD stiill shows 38 updates to do, anyone have any idea how to fix this? === fwest is now known as incorrect === swift__ is now known as swift === swift_ is now known as swift [11:22] hello ! [11:54] Hey guys. I am doing some client work for someone in sweden, and the ssh account they've given me prints everything in Swedish. Is there a way to change the locale for my account? [12:12] Does console-log actually log the console to /var/log/something.log ? [12:30] two nic on same network will it be faster? [12:32] jmazaredo, when properly bonded, yes [12:32] ttx: ping for facter im going to revert back for what we had in karmic for debian/rules so we dont have to put ruby-pkg in main [12:32] jmazaredo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding [12:33] zul: sounds like a good option, how optional is it ? [12:33] it's a separate build system or something ? [12:33] nice will check [12:33] karmic didnt have ruby-pkg so it should be a matter of copying/paste [12:35] jmazaredo: if using a switch, then it needs to be able to handle "link aggregation" and configured accordingly [12:37] got two wifi cards [12:37] connecting to an ap [12:38] yowza [12:38] 08:37:34 up 13 days, 28 min, 1 user, load average: 8.36, 7.69, 4.73 [12:38] jmazaredo, i dont think you can bond two wifi cards [12:38] bogeyd6: please investigate those load averages [12:39] pmatulis, its a vmware machine that has a WSUS server on it [12:39] will try though :D [12:39] bogeyd6: WSUS? [12:39] jmazaredo, your net gain first of all will be nil [12:39] jmazaredo, mathematically you fail before you start [12:39] pmatulis, windows system updates server [12:40] brb :D [12:41] i take that back on bonding [12:41] with the proper linksys wrt54g router and using a firmware that allows you to bond two channels together, now we got ourselves a start [12:42] jmazaredo_, http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Bonding [12:42] snap! [12:48] pmatulis, ironically vmware has a hard time coping with that load [12:49] bogeyd6: what do you mean? [12:50] pmatulis, get lots of disk errors and crashes [13:04] bogeyd6: what kind of vmware are you running? [13:04] pmatulis, vmware server 2 [13:05] bogeyd6: guess you should be using a different solution or a different machine [13:06] !!!! [13:06] pmatulis, you are a genius [13:06] GENIUS! [13:08] Where can i find a list of the packages installed with the ubuntu server edition ? [13:09] dpkg -l [13:09] dpkg -l | grep ^ii [13:09] Jeeves_: I don't have it installed .. I want to create a customized CD [13:09] Aren't you looking for the seeds-file than? [13:10] packages.ubuntu.com/hardy [13:10] Jeeves_: I have no clue yet what I'm supposed to do [13:10] i think this will help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization [13:10] ? [13:10] CVirus, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy [13:10] replace hardy with what you want to use [13:10] thanks [13:11] CVirus, yes that website helps [13:11] CVirus: That wikipage is what you're looking for indeed [13:11] lol [13:11] thanks again === swift_ is now known as swift === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [14:02] hello [14:02] français ou anglais ? [14:07] <_ruben> english it is in here [14:08] ok ##ubuntu-server-fr [14:08] french ? [14:10] French if someone comes here wants to redirect it to please the French channel is: # # ubuntu-server-com, thank you [14:27] there is no such channel [14:30] si [14:30] hggdh: ##ubuntu-server-fr [14:31] Anthoo: ah, merci [14:32] :) [14:32] Anthoo: you might want to announce it also on #ubuntu-fr [14:34] o, he will not want to pub [14:34] no, he will not want to pub [14:35] anthoo:haha, are u talking about gaming? [14:36] wack479: ? [14:37] anthoo: i used to play pc games, and they used the term "want to pub" for playing on a public server. I just hadn't heard that term in forever. Don't know if thats what ya meant or not [14:37] ah [14:39] kirkland: Just upping it to like 2000 would make a tremendous difference. [14:41] soren: hey, got an idea about #506985 [14:41] bug #506985 [14:41] Huh? Where's my bot? === zul is now known as sorensbot [14:42] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rabbitmq-server/+bug/506985 === sorensbot is now known as zul [14:42] *cough* [14:42] zul: Awesome :) [14:42] I am having an issue with my RAID 5 array, everytime i reboot, it deletes the RAID partition [14:44] I am having an issue with my RAID 5 array, everytime i reboot, it deletes the RAID partition, and therefore will not mount. However, the array still shows when in /proc/mdstat? [14:45] wack479: 'deletes'. What do you mean by that? [14:45] if it still shows up in /proc/mdstat its not deleted [14:46] henkjan: hmm, thats weird, not it shows it as working [14:46] it didnt b4 [14:46] thats weird [14:47] *now it shows it as working [14:57] uvirtbot: Welcome back. [14:57] soren: Error: "Welcome" is not a valid command. [14:57] No, it's more of a friendly greeting. [14:57] meh [14:57] New bug: #292971 in libnss-ldap (main) "nscd leaking memory using libnss-ldap" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/292971 [14:57] zul: I've commented on the bug. [14:58] soren: thanks [14:58] what's the big differences between UEC in Karmic and Lucid? [14:58] New bug: #541439 in php5 (main) "php5 should provide php5-mhash transitional package to remove mhash.ini conffile" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541439 [15:00] New bug: #541468 in eucalyptus (main) "euca-describe-images lists all images when querying against ec2" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541468 [15:01] New bug: #541486 in eucalyptus (main) "ubuntu-bug eucalyptus-common attaches massive files" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541486 [15:01] New bug: #541520 in tomcat6 (main) "Using incorrect JVM Garbage Collector" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541520 [15:01] Sorry about the flood. uvirtbot has been gone for a few days, so it's still catching up on things. [15:02] New bug: #541563 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5.5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541563 [15:02] New bug: #541604 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5.5 failed to install/upgrade: sub-processo novo script post-removal retornou estado de saída de erro 1 (dup-of: 349469)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541604 [15:02] New bug: #541633 in groovy (main) "Missing groovy-all.*.jar" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541633 [15:03] New bug: #541681 in samba (main) "3.4.x (x < 6) does not allow printing under 64 bit clients" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541681 [15:04]