| Takyoji | Ooo http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/03/25/2350236/Can-Ubuntu-Save-Online-Banking | 01:40 |
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| Takyoji | It would be quite nice if there was a default RSS client other than Firefox in Ubuntu | 01:58 |
| Takyoji | Such as if Evolution had the RSS plugin by default | 01:58 |
| Takyoji | and had a way to add a feed to Evolution from browsing in Firefox | 01:58 |
| netbook | I have been meaning to use google reader for that sort of thing | 02:09 |
| tonyyarusso | I've been using liferea myself. | 03:30 |
| Takyoji | What would be a decent minimalistic email client? | 04:08 |
| tonyyarusso | Define minimalistic. | 04:10 |
| Takyoji | Just having the basic email features. I guess pretty much anything not Evolution | 04:11 |
| Takyoji | Just thinking on choosing a simpler email client for my mother; for speed, and for least space consumption | 04:11 |
| Takyoji | (visual space consumption by the way; not storage) | 04:12 |
| Takyoji | Mainly more about less buttons, so there's more viewing area. She needs larger text overall, thus leaving less visible space for the message itself. | 04:14 |
| tonyyarusso | okay, let me be more specific: | 04:15 |
| tonyyarusso | GUI or cli? | 04:15 |
| Takyoji | GUI | 04:15 |
| tonyyarusso | Claws. | 04:15 |
| tonyyarusso | It pretty much rocks. | 04:15 |
| tonyyarusso | Thunderbird is pretty nice too - personal preference probably. | 04:15 |
| Takyoji | It's somewhat disturbing that she has a POP3 email account, bleh. | 04:16 |
| tonyyarusso | hehe | 04:17 |
| tonyyarusso | Create GMail account. Set it up to import from her POP3 account. Use GMail through IMAP. Done. | 04:17 |
| Takyoji | With IMAP, isn't there a minor specification of the protocol whereas the client can have a persistent connection and get notified on the instant the mailserver recieves a message (for the account)? | 04:18 |
| Takyoji | True, I guess that would be a sane approach. | 04:18 |
| Takyoji | I was thinking of Gmail, but forgot about the idea of having Gmail grab from the POP3 account as well | 04:18 |
| Takyoji | and Liferea is quite useful | 04:19 |
| Takyoji | Just installed it | 04:19 |
| _diablo | can't handle non-shared reader | 04:19 |
| _diablo | need google | 04:19 |
| Takyoji | I pretty much live at my desktop | 04:20 |
| tonyyarusso | I like desktop apps, but also need portability. I've been looking at sharing config directories over the network. | 04:20 |
| Takyoji | I guess Thunderbird may actually be ideal | 04:30 |
| Takyoji | In terms of the additional RSS/Atom functionality | 04:30 |
| Takyoji | I wonder when Empathy or Pidgin will ever seem to be stable and functional; especially for IRC for example | 04:34 |
| Takyoji | And yes, I do use XChat for IRC | 04:34 |
| Takyoji | (because of not being able to do such horrendously basic IRC commands; that I could probably even implement) | 04:34 |
| Takyoji | if only I were quite fluent with C/C++ and the accommodating development styles. | 04:35 |
| Takyoji | It seems that every time my package manager checks all the repositories; it stalls for like a minute on the last one. | 04:41 |
| tonyyarusso | That's because the last one is universe, which is HUGE. | 04:44 |
| h00k | The Universe is Huge, you're right! | 04:50 |
| tonyyarusso | and expanding! | 04:52 |
| h00k | it's true! and slashdot said that 90% of it was right infront of us the whole time, we just missed it! | 04:59 |
| h00k | as seen here: http://science.slashdot.org/story/10/03/25/200209/90-of-the-Universe-Found-Hiding-In-Plain-View | 05:00 |
| Takyoji | Has it been determined yet of the actual installfest day at TIES? | 05:11 |
| Takyoji | Because it still says the 24th | 05:12 |
| Takyoji | Ahh, so it's intended to be the 1st of May | 05:12 |
| Takyoji | It hasn't been changed on this page yet: http://penguinsunbound.com/Future_Meetings | 05:13 |
| * Takyoji debates over the idea of converting thousands of mp3 files to Ogg Vorbis | 05:15 | |
| Takyoji | The only holdback is file format confusion for the general users. | 05:17 |
| Takyoji | Is GNOME 3 intended for implementation in 10.10? | 05:47 |
| _diablo | Takyoji: I assume so. | 05:49 |
| tonyyarusso | yes | 05:57 |
| tonyyarusso | People building web pages in Microsoft Office makes me cry. | 06:04 |
| _diablo | Takyoji: also, for ogg vorbis, the conversion process makes you lose a bit of quality | 15:41 |
| _diablo | Takyoji: but I'm still doing it :) | 15:41 |
| tonyyarusso | as I understand it though, it's a VERY tiny bit. | 15:41 |
| _diablo | exactly | 15:42 |
| _diablo | fwiw, I'm doing it right now | 15:42 |
| _diablo | It's a loooooong project | 15:42 |
| _diablo | especially if you have mixed file formats e.g. not all mp3 but with a few aac and a few wma mixed in | 15:42 |
| tonyyarusso | long running sure, but you don't have to actually be there. Type command, walk away. | 15:43 |
| _diablo | tonyyarusso: mp32ogg doesn't deal well with aac and wma files though :-/ | 15:55 |
| _diablo | and soundconverter gets pissed and crashes if you do more than 10 or 15 at once | 15:55 |
| _diablo | any other suggestions? :) | 15:56 |
| tonyyarusso | find -exec soundconverter? | 16:11 |
| * tonyyarusso is trying to figure out how to control boinc from the command line | 16:11 | |
| _diablo | good tip. :) I'll check up on 'dat | 16:21 |
| _diablo | are you heading to the browser thing tomorrow? | 16:21 |
| tonyyarusso | No, I have a thing. | 16:26 |
| _diablo | tonyyarusso: I hate things. | 16:31 |
| ripps | Anybody got any particular packages they want me to look at? | 18:13 |
| _diablo | ripps: as in... approval or what? | 18:48 |
| ripps | _diablo: no, I'm just helping Jammers with any packaging help today, and I was hoping someone could point me toward some problem packages they need help with. I'm not an offical MOTU... yet. | 18:49 |
| Obsidian1723 | MOTU? | 18:49 |
| _diablo | ahhhh | 18:50 |
| _diablo | master of the universe | 18:50 |
| ripps | Obsidian1723: Masters Of The Universe, they maintain the Universe/Multiverse repositorys | 18:50 |
| Leaf | and the secrets of castle greyskull ;-p | 18:51 |
| _diablo | :) | 18:52 |
| ripps | I have the Power! | 18:53 |
| Obsidian1723 | Well, The Universe only exists in this realm :) | 18:55 |
| kermit | Obsidian1723: are you obsidian73 on LORD? | 19:13 |
| Obsidian1723 | LORD? | 19:14 |
| kermit | Obsidian1723: a game | 19:15 |
| Obsidian1723 | Never heard of it. I don't game, so nope, not I. | 19:15 |
| kermit | i havent gamed in years, someone in here was talking about BBSes though so i got nostalgic. | 19:17 |
| Obsidian1723 | aye. I ran one of those years ago. Many havent a clue about BBSes anymore or the community that they were both on line and off. | 19:19 |
| Obsidian1723 | I used to run a TeleFindS on a Mac. | 19:19 |
| Obsidian1723 | TeleFinder | 19:19 |
| kermit | i still havent recovered from the loss of BBSes | 19:19 |
| h00k | ripps: Do you need any advice on MOTU stuffs? | 19:19 |
| h00k | ripps: Amaranth is an MOTU | 19:20 |
| kermit | i used to meet intelligent people locally via BBSes, now all i meet are alcoholics and drug addicts via music events. | 19:20 |
| Obsidian1723 | Ah, yeah, I miss B BSes too. ah the screech of a 9600baud or a 14.4k | 19:20 |
| Obsidian1723 | yeah | 19:20 |
| Obsidian1723 | back when I started, script kiddies and a lot of the lame (dare I say ALL of it?) did not exist. | 19:20 |
| Obsidian1723 | That was the 70s though. | 19:21 |
| ripps | h00k: I've spoke with MOTU's before, the biggest barrier for me becoming a MOTU is that I haven't made enough direct contributions to Linux, most of my stuff is through PPA's and niche projects. | 19:21 |
| ripps | s/Linux/Ubuntu/ | 19:21 |
| kermit | Obsidian1723: wow, did you use punch cards?? | 19:21 |
| Obsidian1723 | Whats the big deal about the MOTU label? Does it pay money or something? | 19:21 |
| Obsidian1723 | Kermit, I started out in 1978.. yeah, punch card stuff. Eventually used rotary phones, acoustic couplersw, 110 baud modems, and Apple 2c/es. | 19:22 |
| h00k | Obsidian1723: More information can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | 19:23 |
| h00k | MOTU contributors are the people who are interested in contributing to Ubuntu and are learning how to package and work in the Ubuntu development community. | 19:23 |
| Obsidian1723 | ah. It just seems like some big deal or something??? | 19:24 |
| Obsidian1723 | I mean if people want to code and package, cool...but ya don't need some fancy label.title for that. | 19:24 |
| Obsidian1723 | I write books, cool. I dont call myself anything like some Grand Poobah of The Written Word of the Gods | 19:25 |
| h00k | Obsidian1723: They keep Universe and Multiverse in shape | 19:25 |
| Obsidian1723 | hook, cool. It's just titles, degrees, labels, turn me off. I have all of the afore mentioned, big deal though. | 19:26 |
| Obsidian1723 | It just seems so puff-out-my-chest-and-look-at-ME for some sdelf-validation or something, that's all. | 19:26 |
| Obsidian1723 | just my take I guess. | 19:26 |
| ripps | Obsidian1723: It's not a big deal, but the title of MOTU comes with some perks, mainly access to uploading to Ubuntu repos, Ubuntu Membership. Not to mention a good deal of cred in the community. Since Ubuntu is a meritocracy, having cred is a good way to get your ideas and fixes into Ubuntu. | 19:26 |
| Obsidian1723 | If people code, cool. Code. Regardless of some fancypants title. | 19:27 |
| Obsidian1723 | ripps, I can see that, but it seems more ego-driven than money-driven, which is the exact oppisite of closed-source stuff like Windows. | 19:27 |
| Obsidian1723 | Not trying to piss on anyone's parade. | 19:28 |
| h00k | Obsidian1723: I'm not sure you understand that it's purpose is to add software to the Universe repository and not parade around with a name badge. | 19:28 |
| h00k | It's to speed up maintaining software for Ubuntu as a whole | 19:28 |
| Obsidian1723 | hook, I get it, but why the need for the fancy title? Why not just call them "Code Managers" vs "Master of the Universe" ..surley you can see how pomopus it sounds? | 19:29 |
| h00k | Obsidian1723: anyone can make a package, sure. But not everyone can help maintain the Universe repository | 19:29 |
| Obsidian1723 | So it's an ego thing...if that's someone's ticket, cool for them, but I guess I'm not impressed by iut or think that code that makes it in is any better than code that does not, both may be equal, better, worse... | 19:30 |
| Obsidian1723 | In the end, it's 1s and 0s. | 19:30 |
| Obsidian1723 | All the same. | 19:31 |
| Obsidian1723 | whateva tho. | 19:31 |
| ripps | Obsidian1723: so you don't want any of your code in Ubuntu, that's fine I suppose, Ubuntu supplies PPA's, but most people arent' gonna be aware of it. | 19:31 |
| h00k | It's also to make sure code compiles and acts properly from Debian -> Ubuntu | 19:31 |
| Obsidian1723 | ripps, I dont code :D | 19:32 |
| Obsidian1723 | hook, true, but people dont need fancy titles for that, do they? | 19:32 |
| Obsidian1723 | cause if so, then I need a fancy title for IRc. I must be called Grand Poobah and Master of IRC./ | 19:32 |
| Obsidian1723 | blah | 19:33 |
| ripps | heh, yeah, most of a MOTU's work isn't actually making/uploading packages, but fixing problems with packages that are caused by the differences between Debian and Ubuntu. And trust me, there are alot of them at times | 19:33 |
| h00k | To work with Official Ubuntu Universe Repositories, yes. Not just any joe-blow can throw whatever code into the repository. | 19:33 |
| Obsidian1723 | hook, true, and that is probably a good thing to be sure. | 19:33 |
| Obsidian1723 | Im just not ab out the pomopus title is all. | 19:33 |
| h00k | then don't become one. | 19:33 |
| h00k | ripps: I fully support your endeavors! | 19:34 |
| h00k | title or not | 19:34 |
| kermit | i can has the power? | 19:34 |
| Obsidian1723 | hook, yeah not my bag to code... | 19:35 |
| Obsidian1723 | I have all sorts of fancy shmaNCY STUFF i COULD USE TO MY NAME, BUT DON'T. jUST NOT INTO THAT STUFF, ACOLAIDS, TITLES, DEGREES, CERTS, ETC ETC LABELS. | 19:35 |
| Obsidian1723 | caps, sorry, not meant | 19:35 |
| Takyoji | I wonder when GEGL will ever be done | 21:22 |
| Takyoji | I wonder how long it will be until Dell offers netbooks with 10.04 pre-installed. | 21:34 |
| Leaf | End of September-2010 :-) | 21:35 |
| Takyoji | Is it me, or does PiTiVi not even have transitions? :P | 21:50 |
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