| akgraner | pleia2, here are the logs from today's meeting in the HTML log view :-) | 02:15 |
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| akgraner | http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/20100325/Ubuntu_IRC_HTML_Logs | 02:15 |
| * akgraner is happy I figured out how to do that :-) | 02:15 | |
| pleia2 | all pretty! | 02:15 |
| pleia2 | wow, neat | 02:15 |
| pleia2 | I didn't know how to do that :) | 02:15 |
| rw | ooo, colours! | 02:16 |
| MichelleQ | pretty! | 02:16 |
| akgraner | you add {{{#!HTML from the header to the end then add #!HTML}}} | 02:20 |
| pleia2 | akgraner: so, I will tell you all about what it's like to be a fridge editor, then you can apply too, ok? | 02:21 |
| pleia2 | :) | 02:22 |
| akgraner | so right click on the HTML page and view the source once you grab all the source you need that is what you add (incase the html and header isn't there): | 02:23 |
| akgraner | {{{#!HTML | 02:23 |
| akgraner | <html> | 02:23 |
| akgraner | <head> | 02:23 |
| akgraner | </head> | 02:23 |
| akgraner | </html> | 02:23 |
| akgraner | }}} | 02:23 |
| akgraner | pleia2, sweet! :-) | 02:23 |
| pleia2 | :) | 02:23 |
| akgraner | can do ;-) | 02:23 |
| pleia2 | yay | 02:23 |
| akgraner | ok crap I need to add the copyright stuff for the parser :-/ | 02:24 |
| pleia2 | maybe, I don't know the license for irclogs.u.c | 02:24 |
| rw | I think the general rule is that if you say something in an irclogs.u.c-logged channel, anyone can use it. | 02:26 |
| akgraner | http://moinmo.in/ParserMarket/HTML | 02:27 |
| akgraner | no it's the parser that has the lic.. | 02:27 |
| * pleia2 looks around for rw's other w | 02:27 | |
| akgraner | not the logs | 02:27 |
| rw | pleia2: my home router's being silly and not letting in ssh :( | 02:27 |
| pleia2 | rw: sadness! | 02:27 |
| akgraner | parser | 02:27 |
| akgraner | if you look at the link I just posted that's what I am talking about | 02:28 |
| akgraner | not the info from irclogs | 02:28 |
| akgraner | ok I fixed it :-) | 02:29 |
| akgraner | pleia2, what did you think about the Fedora wiki links I sent ya? | 02:31 |
| rw | akgraner: It's my understanding that you don't need to add the copyright info from the parsers to the output. See also http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLOutput and the question after it. | 02:31 |
| rw | (irclogs.ubuntu.com's parser and the Moin one you linked to are both GPL) | 02:31 |
| akgraner | ok - then I misunderstood :-) thanks :-) | 02:32 |
| akgraner | that's the easiest fix evah :-) | 02:32 |
| pleia2 | akgraner: oh yeah, I had heard about that before from an ambassador friend of mine, hadn't read any of it recently - they have some good ideas | 02:37 |
| pleia2 | but between a late night at the datacenter this morning and that interview earlier today... I need a nap before I'm going to be even remotely productive | 02:37 |
| pleia2 | bbiab :) | 02:37 |
| akgraner | the new Fedora Marketing Project Leader joined the UW Mailing list last night :-) | 02:38 |
| pleia2 | cool | 02:38 |
| akgraner | she is doing some great marketing stuff for the Fedora Project | 02:38 |
| akgraner | I told her I was going to swipe some pages from her play book :-) | 02:38 |
| akgraner | pleia2, laters | 02:39 |
| maco | akgraner: you dont mean mchua, do you? | 03:55 |
| maco | (i'm not sure what she does, just that its something fedora, something marketing, and something reminiscent of dholbach with all the "get new contribs!" stuff) | 03:56 |
| maco | akgraner: nevermind. she says not her. | 04:11 |
| maco | she says "must be robyn" | 04:14 |
| pleia2 | oops, didn't see svaksha's email before I sent mine | 04:43 |
| pleia2 | oh well, a new thread for it is probably needed anyway | 04:43 |
| elky | I'm doubting that the resource demand would be so excessive one of us can't host it. The only problem with that is access bottleneck for fixing stuff that may need fixing -- wordpress is almost entirely self-managing now | 04:58 |
| elky | (scarily so) | 04:58 |
| pleia2 | elky: I agree, and I have plenty of hosting space (I'm hosting ubuntupennsylvania, ubuntu-us.org, ubuntu-owl.org) | 04:59 |
| elky | I'd actualy set it up as a wordpressMU install too | 04:59 |
| pleia2 | and I can give shell access to folks who need it | 04:59 |
| pleia2 | so I am hoping I wouldn't be too much of a bottleneck | 05:00 |
| elky | well if you have others than you with access to the server, then there shouldn't be | 05:00 |
| pleia2 | the ubuntu package for wordpress is MU automagically (ok, it takes a little work to configure) | 05:00 |
| pleia2 | but I'm thinking we'd go with the tarball | 05:01 |
| elky | pleia2, oh? i thought it was standalone wordpress | 05:01 |
| * elky never uses the debs because they don't update fast enough | 05:02 | |
| pleia2 | elky: nope, the core stuff is shared, it's nice | 05:02 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 05:02 |
| pleia2 | I am using the hardy version of WP for ubuntupennsylvania, it's pretty awful tbh | 05:02 |
| elky | ick | 05:03 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 06:18 |
| AlanBell | pleia2: I thought I had made mootbot make pretty logs! Do they need to be prettier? | 06:51 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:18 |
| AlanBell | pleia2: something like nickcolor.pl for irssi would be nice to add to the mootbot layout. Can't say I like the table format IRC logs much, but it could be improved from where it is now. | 07:22 |
| AlanBell | not sure how to set the foreground text colour in moin | 07:22 |
| AlanBell | pleia2: maybe we could chat later about how to add more pretty to it. | 07:27 |
| akgraner | AlanBell, I added the MootBot, text, and HTML logs to the meeting page | 10:42 |
| akgraner | we can ask for feedback on which is easier for people to read | 10:43 |
| akgraner | not sure how you make mootboot do what you make it do...but I like how it lays out the information :-) | 10:44 |
| czajkowski | akgraner: morning | 10:45 |
| akgraner | czajkowski, morning | 10:45 |
| * elky crawls back home from the LUG agm. | 12:56 | |
| elky | this, ladies and gentlemen, is why locos as incorporates is the stupidest idea ever. | 12:56 |
| * elky collapses | 12:56 | |
| elky | I am also, foolishly, still secretary of said LUG. I think I might have forgotten to flee. | 12:56 |
| nigelb | elky: aw, what happened? | 13:02 |
| elky | Well, someone nominated me, and someone seconded me, and I /still/ showed up to the AGM and at some point must have uttered the word "accept". | 13:03 |
| nigelb | elky: lol | 13:04 |
| akgraner | lol | 13:04 |
| nigelb | elky: we all know you're a superhero :D | 13:05 |
| elky | Ooh, where's my magic powers? | 13:05 |
| nigelb | elky: um, "common sense" :D | 13:06 |
| nigelb | Sadly it has turned into a magic power these days | 13:07 |
| elky | ... I don't know whether to be happy about that or not. | 13:07 |
| elky | For the exact reason you just stated. | 13:07 |
| elky | Humanity is depressing? Can we please start over? | 13:08 |
| nigelb | Its like playing AOE, "Oh now, I messed up, can I start over?" | 13:08 |
| elky | Yeah. | 13:08 |
| akgraner | or golf - mulligans are great :-) | 13:09 |
| akgraner | hey all I added some information on the agenda wiki, created a Meeting Chair Planning Wiki - so the Mootbot-UK commands won't be on the agenda that everyone reads or adds to as it can become cluttered quickly, and I also created a Mootbot-UK howto wiki as well. Links to follow | 14:56 |
| akgraner | http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/April2010/Agenda | 14:56 |
| akgraner | http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/April2010/Agenda/MeetingChairAgenda | 14:56 |
| akgraner | http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/Mootbot-UKHowTo | 14:56 |
| pleia2 | akgraner: drop a note to the list re: ubuntu user mag? | 17:41 |
| * pleia2 hopes she gets her copy soon, can't wait! :) | 17:41 | |
| akgraner | :-) yep I put in the request for you and czajkowski since I used your pics - and I requested one for elky too since she designed the poster :-) | 17:41 |
| akgraner | oh I havent' but I will :-) | 17:42 |
| akgraner | to the list that is | 17:42 |
| czajkowski | akgraner: we'll keep you :p | 17:42 |
| akgraner | thanks! :-p | 17:43 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 17:43 |
| czajkowski | oh nice I've 35 places left for my evnet and 7 slots for talks plus 8 lightning talks | 17:43 |
| czajkowski | timetable only went up wednesday :D | 17:43 |
| akgraner | sweet | 17:46 |
| pleia2 | http://twit.tv/FLOSS | 17:49 |
| pleia2 | yay it's up now :) | 17:49 |
| * akgraner is hiding | 17:52 | |
| * pleia2 tells everyone | 17:52 | |
| akgraner | I hope I made sense.... | 17:52 |
| pleia2 | I'm sure you did great :) | 17:53 |
| * pleia2 listens now | 17:53 | |
| izdubar | akgraner rocked FLOSS Weekly - go listen to it now everybody! | 17:57 |
| pleia2 | :) | 17:57 |
| akgraner | izdubar, thanks :-) | 17:59 |
| izdubar | Just speaking the truth | 17:59 |
| akgraner | go hypa7ia - http://findingada.com/list/ | 19:11 |
| akgraner | is that who your nick is based on? | 19:12 |
| akgraner | wow the whole list from Ada Lovelace Day is awesome! - http://findingada.com/list/ | 19:23 |
| Pendulum | are we doing a UW bug jam this weekend? I got confused a bit about what was going on (and have been rather out of it lately) | 20:25 |
| pleia2 | I don't think it ever got off the ground | 20:26 |
| pleia2 | and s/bug// | 20:27 |
| akgraner | Pendulum, I think people are just going to be in the channel - and if people want to do something then woo hoo | 20:27 |
| akgraner | we can fix the wiki's and stuff :-) | 20:27 |
| akgraner | can brainstorm Blog stuff or come up with next steps for the Blueprints and stuff? | 20:28 |
| akgraner | etherpad and people adding ideas all day :-) | 20:28 |
| akgraner | or whatever? | 20:28 |
| Daviey | etherpad \o/ | 20:38 |
| czajkowski | etherpad is great | 20:39 |
| AlanBell | it is indeed | 20:42 |
| AlanBell | I was using the one at http://primarypad.com/ today for a think tank thingie about using open source in UK schools | 20:43 |
| czajkowski | when you were being deprived of your irc :p | 20:43 |
| AlanBell | pleia2: want to flame the prettyness of Mootbot-UK's output? | 20:43 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski: yeah, it was a struggle | 20:44 |
| AlanBell | the mootbot code is pretty simple. Not much black magic involved and categorically no sacrificing of chickens. | 20:45 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: pleia2 just wants it to be pink :P | 20:45 |
| AlanBell | the main code looks like this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~alanbell/mootbot/moin/annotate/head:/mootbot_core.tcl | 20:45 |
| AlanBell | (which is pink as per czajkowski's request) | 20:46 |
| czajkowski | eh | 20:46 |
| pleia2 | AlanBell: I just find http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/20100325/Ubuntu_IRC_Text_Logs to be easier on the eyes :) | 20:46 |
| Pendulum | pink \o/ | 20:46 |
| pleia2 | so that - plus the TOC and headers would be great | 20:46 |
| AlanBell | the lines that start with "logWrite 1" print out stuff to the plain text file "logWrite 2" prints stuff to the HTML file and logWrite 3 outputs stuff to the moin syntax file | 20:47 |
| AlanBell | it already had 1 and 2 I just added 3 | 20:47 |
| AlanBell | pleia2: so lots of little tables inbetween topic headers? | 20:48 |
| pleia2 | AlanBell: yeah | 20:48 |
| akgraner | AlanBell, did you see the Mootbot-UK I added to our wiki's today? | 20:51 |
| akgraner | Mootbot-UK Howto even | 20:51 |
| akgraner | dang it | 20:51 |
| AlanBell | akgraner: no, I didn't, where is that? | 20:52 |
| czajkowski | dang is usually followed by grrrr and more dangs.. | 20:52 |
| AlanBell | pleia2: so it would start to look a bit like the top of this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot | 20:53 |
| pleia2 | AlanBell: yeah :) | 20:53 |
| AlanBell | can't say I am a fan of the table layout myself. I don't like the timestamp against every single message and I find the table lines a bit offputting | 20:54 |
| AlanBell | it ends up not looking like a document or transcript of something | 20:54 |
| akgraner | one sec I'll grab it | 20:55 |
| akgraner | http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/Mootbot-UKHowTo | 20:56 |
| AlanBell | if you look at something like this: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100326024113100 that is a kind of transcript of a discussion | 20:56 |
| akgraner | it's linked off the agenda page for the meetings | 20:56 |
| akgraner | AlanBell, http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/April2010/Agenda | 20:57 |
| AlanBell | akgraner: cool found it thanks | 20:57 |
| AlanBell | that is great! | 20:57 |
| akgraner | thanks - I wanted to make sure that anyone who wants to chair a meeting would be able to | 20:58 |
| akgraner | _marx_ is going to tweak them to use for NC as well | 20:59 |
| AlanBell | I could do the nick colour thing (or color for those who don't like u in their colour) but it would involve using the {{{#!HTML parser | 21:16 |
| AlanBell | which feels like cheating | 21:16 |
| akgraner | :-) | 21:19 |
| AlanBell | moin doesn't have a native way to change the foreground text colour | 21:20 |
| AlanBell | there are macros that can do it, but they are not installed | 21:20 |
| AlanBell | nick colouring is going to be cool, if I can work it out | 21:32 |
| AlanBell | basically take the nick e.g. "akgraner" and convert that to a number that corresponds somehow to the hue of a colour | 21:33 |
| AlanBell | saturation and value stay constant so there is a farly constant contrast | 21:34 |
| * AlanBell wonders whether to rewrite the bot from scratch in python | 21:51 | |
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