[02:15] pleia2, here are the logs from today's meeting in the HTML log view :-) [02:15] http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/20100325/Ubuntu_IRC_HTML_Logs [02:15] * akgraner is happy I figured out how to do that :-) [02:15] all pretty! [02:15] wow, neat [02:15] I didn't know how to do that :) [02:16] ooo, colours! [02:16] pretty! [02:20] you add {{{#!HTML from the header to the end then add #!HTML}}} [02:21] akgraner: so, I will tell you all about what it's like to be a fridge editor, then you can apply too, ok? [02:22] :) [02:23] so right click on the HTML page and view the source once you grab all the source you need that is what you add (incase the html and header isn't there): [02:23] {{{#!HTML [02:23] [02:23] [02:23] [02:23] [02:23] }}} [02:23] pleia2, sweet! :-) [02:23] :) [02:23] can do ;-) [02:23] yay [02:24] ok crap I need to add the copyright stuff for the parser :-/ [02:24] maybe, I don't know the license for irclogs.u.c [02:26] I think the general rule is that if you say something in an irclogs.u.c-logged channel, anyone can use it. [02:27] http://moinmo.in/ParserMarket/HTML [02:27] no it's the parser that has the lic.. [02:27] * pleia2 looks around for rw's other w [02:27] not the logs [02:27] pleia2: my home router's being silly and not letting in ssh :( [02:27] rw: sadness! [02:27] parser [02:28] if you look at the link I just posted that's what I am talking about [02:28] not the info from irclogs [02:29] ok I fixed it :-) [02:31] pleia2, what did you think about the Fedora wiki links I sent ya? [02:31] akgraner: It's my understanding that you don't need to add the copyright info from the parsers to the output. See also http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLOutput and the question after it. [02:31] (irclogs.ubuntu.com's parser and the Moin one you linked to are both GPL) [02:32] ok - then I misunderstood :-) thanks :-) [02:32] that's the easiest fix evah :-) [02:37] akgraner: oh yeah, I had heard about that before from an ambassador friend of mine, hadn't read any of it recently - they have some good ideas [02:37] but between a late night at the datacenter this morning and that interview earlier today... I need a nap before I'm going to be even remotely productive [02:37] bbiab :) [02:38] the new Fedora Marketing Project Leader joined the UW Mailing list last night :-) [02:38] cool [02:38] she is doing some great marketing stuff for the Fedora Project [02:38] I told her I was going to swipe some pages from her play book :-) [02:39] pleia2, laters [03:55] akgraner: you dont mean mchua, do you? [03:56] (i'm not sure what she does, just that its something fedora, something marketing, and something reminiscent of dholbach with all the "get new contribs!" stuff) [04:11] akgraner: nevermind. she says not her. [04:14] she says "must be robyn" [04:43] oops, didn't see svaksha's email before I sent mine [04:43] oh well, a new thread for it is probably needed anyway [04:58] I'm doubting that the resource demand would be so excessive one of us can't host it. The only problem with that is access bottleneck for fixing stuff that may need fixing -- wordpress is almost entirely self-managing now [04:58] (scarily so) [04:59] elky: I agree, and I have plenty of hosting space (I'm hosting ubuntupennsylvania, ubuntu-us.org, ubuntu-owl.org) [04:59] I'd actualy set it up as a wordpressMU install too [04:59] and I can give shell access to folks who need it [05:00] so I am hoping I wouldn't be too much of a bottleneck [05:00] well if you have others than you with access to the server, then there shouldn't be [05:00] the ubuntu package for wordpress is MU automagically (ok, it takes a little work to configure) [05:01] but I'm thinking we'd go with the tarball [05:01] pleia2, oh? i thought it was standalone wordpress [05:02] * elky never uses the debs because they don't update fast enough [05:02] elky: nope, the core stuff is shared, it's nice [05:02] yeah [05:02] I am using the hardy version of WP for ubuntupennsylvania, it's pretty awful tbh [05:03] ick [06:18] aloha [06:51] pleia2: I thought I had made mootbot make pretty logs! Do they need to be prettier? [07:18] good morning [07:22] pleia2: something like nickcolor.pl for irssi would be nice to add to the mootbot layout. Can't say I like the table format IRC logs much, but it could be improved from where it is now. [07:22] not sure how to set the foreground text colour in moin [07:27] pleia2: maybe we could chat later about how to add more pretty to it. [10:42] AlanBell, I added the MootBot, text, and HTML logs to the meeting page [10:43] we can ask for feedback on which is easier for people to read [10:44] not sure how you make mootboot do what you make it do...but I like how it lays out the information :-) [10:45] akgraner: morning [10:45] czajkowski, morning [12:56] * elky crawls back home from the LUG agm. [12:56] this, ladies and gentlemen, is why locos as incorporates is the stupidest idea ever. [12:56] * elky collapses [12:56] I am also, foolishly, still secretary of said LUG. I think I might have forgotten to flee. [13:02] elky: aw, what happened? [13:03] Well, someone nominated me, and someone seconded me, and I /still/ showed up to the AGM and at some point must have uttered the word "accept". [13:04] elky: lol [13:04] lol [13:05] elky: we all know you're a superhero :D [13:05] Ooh, where's my magic powers? [13:06] elky: um, "common sense" :D [13:07] Sadly it has turned into a magic power these days [13:07] ... I don't know whether to be happy about that or not. [13:07] For the exact reason you just stated. [13:08] Humanity is depressing? Can we please start over? [13:08] Its like playing AOE, "Oh now, I messed up, can I start over?" [13:08] Yeah. [13:09] or golf - mulligans are great :-) [14:56] hey all I added some information on the agenda wiki, created a Meeting Chair Planning Wiki - so the Mootbot-UK commands won't be on the agenda that everyone reads or adds to as it can become cluttered quickly, and I also created a Mootbot-UK howto wiki as well. Links to follow [14:56] http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/April2010/Agenda [14:56] http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/April2010/Agenda/MeetingChairAgenda [14:56] http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/Mootbot-UKHowTo [17:41] akgraner: drop a note to the list re: ubuntu user mag? [17:41] * pleia2 hopes she gets her copy soon, can't wait! :) [17:41] :-) yep I put in the request for you and czajkowski since I used your pics - and I requested one for elky too since she designed the poster :-) [17:42] oh I havent' but I will :-) [17:42] to the list that is [17:42] akgraner: we'll keep you :p [17:43] thanks! :-p [17:43] hehe [17:43] oh nice I've 35 places left for my evnet and 7 slots for talks plus 8 lightning talks [17:43] timetable only went up wednesday :D [17:46] sweet [17:49] http://twit.tv/FLOSS [17:49] yay it's up now :) [17:52] * akgraner is hiding [17:52] * pleia2 tells everyone [17:52] I hope I made sense.... [17:53] I'm sure you did great :) [17:53] * pleia2 listens now [17:57] akgraner rocked FLOSS Weekly - go listen to it now everybody! [17:57] :) [17:59] izdubar, thanks :-) [17:59] Just speaking the truth [19:11] go hypa7ia - http://findingada.com/list/ [19:12] is that who your nick is based on? [19:23] wow the whole list from Ada Lovelace Day is awesome! - http://findingada.com/list/ [20:25] are we doing a UW bug jam this weekend? I got confused a bit about what was going on (and have been rather out of it lately) [20:26] I don't think it ever got off the ground [20:27] and s/bug// [20:27] Pendulum, I think people are just going to be in the channel - and if people want to do something then woo hoo [20:27] we can fix the wiki's and stuff :-) [20:28] can brainstorm Blog stuff or come up with next steps for the Blueprints and stuff? [20:28] etherpad and people adding ideas all day :-) [20:28] or whatever? [20:38] etherpad \o/ [20:39] etherpad is great [20:42] it is indeed [20:43] I was using the one at http://primarypad.com/ today for a think tank thingie about using open source in UK schools [20:43] when you were being deprived of your irc :p [20:43] pleia2: want to flame the prettyness of Mootbot-UK's output? [20:44] czajkowski: yeah, it was a struggle [20:45] the mootbot code is pretty simple. Not much black magic involved and categorically no sacrificing of chickens. [20:45] AlanBell: pleia2 just wants it to be pink :P [20:45] the main code looks like this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~alanbell/mootbot/moin/annotate/head:/mootbot_core.tcl [20:46] (which is pink as per czajkowski's request) [20:46] eh [20:46] AlanBell: I just find http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/20100325/Ubuntu_IRC_Text_Logs to be easier on the eyes :) [20:46] pink \o/ [20:46] so that - plus the TOC and headers would be great [20:47] the lines that start with "logWrite 1" print out stuff to the plain text file "logWrite 2" prints stuff to the HTML file and logWrite 3 outputs stuff to the moin syntax file [20:47] it already had 1 and 2 I just added 3 [20:48] pleia2: so lots of little tables inbetween topic headers? [20:48] AlanBell: yeah [20:51] AlanBell, did you see the Mootbot-UK I added to our wiki's today? [20:51] Mootbot-UK Howto even [20:51] dang it [20:52] akgraner: no, I didn't, where is that? [20:52] dang is usually followed by grrrr and more dangs.. [20:53] pleia2: so it would start to look a bit like the top of this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot [20:53] AlanBell: yeah :) [20:54] can't say I am a fan of the table layout myself. I don't like the timestamp against every single message and I find the table lines a bit offputting [20:54] it ends up not looking like a document or transcript of something [20:55] one sec I'll grab it [20:56] http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/Mootbot-UKHowTo [20:56] if you look at something like this: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100326024113100 that is a kind of transcript of a discussion [20:56] it's linked off the agenda page for the meetings [20:57] AlanBell, http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/April2010/Agenda [20:57] akgraner: cool found it thanks [20:57] that is great! [20:58] thanks - I wanted to make sure that anyone who wants to chair a meeting would be able to [20:59] _marx_ is going to tweak them to use for NC as well [21:16] I could do the nick colour thing (or color for those who don't like u in their colour) but it would involve using the {{{#!HTML parser [21:16] which feels like cheating [21:19] :-) [21:20] moin doesn't have a native way to change the foreground text colour [21:20] there are macros that can do it, but they are not installed [21:32] nick colouring is going to be cool, if I can work it out [21:33] basically take the nick e.g. "akgraner" and convert that to a number that corresponds somehow to the hue of a colour [21:34] saturation and value stay constant so there is a farly constant contrast [21:51] * AlanBell wonders whether to rewrite the bot from scratch in python