[02:15] <akgraner> pleia2, here are the logs from today's meeting in the HTML log view :-)
[02:15] <akgraner> http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/20100325/Ubuntu_IRC_HTML_Logs
[02:15]  * akgraner is happy I figured out how to do that :-)
[02:15] <pleia2> all pretty!
[02:15] <pleia2> wow, neat
[02:15] <pleia2> I didn't know how to do that :)
[02:16] <rw> ooo, colours!
[02:16] <MichelleQ> pretty!
[02:20] <akgraner> you add {{{#!HTML   from the header to the end  then add #!HTML}}}
[02:21] <pleia2> akgraner: so, I will tell you all about what it's like to be a fridge editor, then you can apply too, ok?
[02:22] <pleia2> :)
[02:23] <akgraner> so right click on the HTML page and view the source once you grab all the source you need that is what you add (incase the html and header isn't there):
[02:23] <akgraner> {{{#!HTML
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[02:23] <akgraner> }}}
[02:23] <akgraner> pleia2, sweet! :-)
[02:23] <pleia2> :)
[02:23] <akgraner> can do ;-)
[02:23] <pleia2> yay
[02:24] <akgraner> ok crap I need to add the copyright stuff for the parser :-/
[02:24] <pleia2> maybe, I don't know the license for irclogs.u.c
[02:26] <rw> I think the general rule is that if you say something in an irclogs.u.c-logged channel, anyone can use it.
[02:27] <akgraner> http://moinmo.in/ParserMarket/HTML
[02:27] <akgraner> no it's the parser that has the lic..
[02:27]  * pleia2 looks around for rw's other w
[02:27] <akgraner> not the logs
[02:27] <rw> pleia2: my home router's being silly and not letting in ssh :(
[02:27] <pleia2> rw: sadness!
[02:27] <akgraner> parser
[02:28] <akgraner> if you look at the link I just posted that's what I am talking about
[02:28] <akgraner> not the info from irclogs
[02:29] <akgraner> ok I fixed it :-)
[02:31] <akgraner> pleia2, what did you think about the Fedora wiki links I sent ya?
[02:31] <rw> akgraner: It's my understanding that you don't need to add the copyright info from the parsers to the output. See also http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLOutput and the question after it.
[02:31] <rw> (irclogs.ubuntu.com's parser and the Moin one you linked to are both GPL)
[02:32] <akgraner> ok  - then I misunderstood :-)  thanks :-)
[02:32] <akgraner> that's the easiest fix evah :-)
[02:37] <pleia2> akgraner: oh yeah, I had heard about that before from an ambassador friend of mine, hadn't read any of it recently - they have some good ideas
[02:37] <pleia2> but between a late night at the datacenter this morning and that interview earlier today... I need a nap before I'm going to be even remotely productive
[02:37] <pleia2> bbiab :)
[02:38] <akgraner> the new Fedora Marketing Project Leader joined the UW Mailing list last night :-)
[02:38] <pleia2> cool
[02:38] <akgraner> she is doing some great marketing stuff for the Fedora Project
[02:38] <akgraner> I told her I was going to swipe some pages from her play book :-)
[02:39] <akgraner> pleia2, laters
[03:55] <maco> akgraner: you dont mean mchua, do you?
[03:56] <maco> (i'm not sure what she does, just that its something fedora, something marketing, and something reminiscent of dholbach with all the "get new contribs!" stuff)
[04:11] <maco> akgraner: nevermind. she says not her.
[04:14] <maco> she says "must be robyn"
[04:43] <pleia2> oops, didn't see svaksha's email before I sent mine
[04:43] <pleia2> oh well, a new thread for it is probably needed anyway
[04:58] <elky> I'm doubting that the resource demand would be so excessive one of us can't host it. The only problem with that is access bottleneck for fixing stuff that may need fixing -- wordpress is almost entirely self-managing now
[04:58] <elky> (scarily so)
[04:59] <pleia2> elky: I agree, and I have plenty of hosting space (I'm hosting ubuntupennsylvania, ubuntu-us.org, ubuntu-owl.org)
[04:59] <elky> I'd actualy set it up as a wordpressMU install too
[04:59] <pleia2> and I can give shell access to folks who need it
[05:00] <pleia2> so I am hoping I wouldn't be too much of a bottleneck
[05:00] <elky> well if you have others than you with access to the server, then there shouldn't be
[05:00] <pleia2> the ubuntu package for wordpress is MU automagically (ok, it takes a little work to configure)
[05:01] <pleia2> but I'm thinking we'd go with the tarball
[05:01] <elky> pleia2, oh? i thought it was standalone wordpress
[05:02]  * elky never uses the debs because they don't update fast enough
[05:02] <pleia2> elky: nope, the core stuff is shared, it's nice
[05:02] <pleia2> yeah
[05:02] <pleia2> I am using the hardy version of WP for ubuntupennsylvania, it's pretty awful tbh
[05:03] <elky> ick
[06:18] <czajkowski> aloha
[06:51] <AlanBell> pleia2: I thought I had made mootbot make pretty logs! Do they need to be prettier?
[07:18] <dholbach> good morning
[07:22] <AlanBell> pleia2: something like nickcolor.pl for irssi would be nice to add to the mootbot layout. Can't say I like the table format IRC logs much, but it could be improved from where it is now.
[07:22] <AlanBell> not sure how to set the foreground text colour in moin
[07:27] <AlanBell> pleia2: maybe we could chat later about how to add more pretty to it.
[10:42] <akgraner> AlanBell, I added the MootBot, text, and HTML logs to the meeting page
[10:43] <akgraner> we can ask for feedback on which is easier for people to read
[10:44] <akgraner> not sure how you make mootboot do what you make it do...but I like how it lays out the information :-)
[10:45] <czajkowski> akgraner: morning
[10:45] <akgraner> czajkowski, morning
[12:56]  * elky crawls back home from the LUG agm.
[12:56] <elky> this, ladies and gentlemen, is why locos as incorporates is the stupidest idea ever.
[12:56]  * elky collapses
[12:56] <elky> I am also, foolishly, still secretary of said LUG. I think I might have forgotten to flee.
[13:02] <nigelb> elky: aw, what happened?
[13:03] <elky> Well, someone nominated me, and someone seconded me, and I /still/ showed up to the AGM and at some point must have uttered the word "accept".
[13:04] <nigelb> elky: lol
[13:04] <akgraner> lol
[13:05] <nigelb> elky: we all know you're a superhero :D
[13:05] <elky> Ooh, where's my magic powers?
[13:06] <nigelb> elky: um, "common sense" :D
[13:07] <nigelb> Sadly it has turned into a magic power these days
[13:07] <elky> ... I don't know whether to be happy about that or not.
[13:07] <elky> For the exact reason you just stated.
[13:08] <elky> Humanity is depressing? Can we please start over?
[13:08] <nigelb> Its like playing AOE, "Oh now, I messed up, can I start over?"
[13:08] <elky> Yeah.
[13:09] <akgraner> or golf - mulligans are great :-)
[14:56] <akgraner> hey all I added some information on the agenda wiki, created a Meeting Chair Planning Wiki - so the Mootbot-UK commands won't be on the agenda that everyone reads or adds to as it can become cluttered quickly, and I also created a Mootbot-UK howto wiki as well.  Links to follow
[14:56] <akgraner> http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/April2010/Agenda
[14:56] <akgraner> http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/April2010/Agenda/MeetingChairAgenda
[14:56] <akgraner> http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/Mootbot-UKHowTo
[17:41] <pleia2> akgraner: drop a note to the list re: ubuntu user mag?
[17:41]  * pleia2 hopes she gets her copy soon, can't wait! :)
[17:41] <akgraner> :-)  yep I put in the request for you and czajkowski  since I used your pics  - and I requested one for elky too since she designed the poster :-)
[17:42] <akgraner> oh I havent' but I will :-)
[17:42] <akgraner> to the list that is
[17:42] <czajkowski> akgraner: we'll keep you :p
[17:43] <akgraner> thanks! :-p
[17:43] <pleia2> hehe
[17:43] <czajkowski> oh nice I've 35 places left for my evnet and 7 slots for talks plus 8 lightning talks
[17:43] <czajkowski> timetable only went up wednesday :D
[17:46] <akgraner> sweet
[17:49] <pleia2> http://twit.tv/FLOSS
[17:49] <pleia2> yay it's up now :)
[17:52]  * akgraner is hiding
[17:52]  * pleia2 tells everyone
[17:52] <akgraner> I hope I made sense....
[17:53] <pleia2> I'm sure you did great :)
[17:53]  * pleia2 listens now
[17:57] <izdubar> akgraner rocked FLOSS Weekly - go listen to it now everybody!
[17:57] <pleia2> :)
[17:59] <akgraner> izdubar, thanks :-)
[17:59] <izdubar> Just speaking the truth
[19:11] <akgraner> go hypa7ia  - http://findingada.com/list/
[19:12] <akgraner> is that who your nick is based on?
[19:23] <akgraner> wow the whole list from Ada Lovelace Day is awesome! - http://findingada.com/list/
[20:25] <Pendulum> are we doing a UW bug jam this weekend? I got confused a bit about what was going on (and have been rather out of it lately)
[20:26] <pleia2> I don't think it ever got off the ground
[20:27] <pleia2> and s/bug//
[20:27] <akgraner> Pendulum, I think people are just going to be in the channel  - and if people want to do something then woo hoo
[20:27] <akgraner> we can fix the wiki's and stuff :-)
[20:28] <akgraner> can brainstorm Blog stuff or come up with next steps for the Blueprints and stuff?
[20:28] <akgraner> etherpad and people adding ideas all day :-)
[20:28] <akgraner> or whatever?
[20:38] <Daviey> etherpad \o/
[20:39] <czajkowski> etherpad is great
[20:42] <AlanBell> it is indeed
[20:43] <AlanBell> I was using the one at http://primarypad.com/ today for a think tank thingie about using open source in UK schools
[20:43] <czajkowski> when you were being deprived of your irc :p
[20:43] <AlanBell> pleia2: want to flame the prettyness of Mootbot-UK's output?
[20:44] <AlanBell> czajkowski: yeah, it was a struggle
[20:45] <AlanBell> the mootbot code is pretty simple. Not much black magic involved and categorically no sacrificing of chickens.
[20:45] <czajkowski> AlanBell: pleia2 just wants it to be pink :P
[20:45] <AlanBell> the main code looks like this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~alanbell/mootbot/moin/annotate/head:/mootbot_core.tcl
[20:46] <AlanBell> (which is pink as per czajkowski's request)
[20:46] <czajkowski> eh
[20:46] <pleia2> AlanBell: I just find http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/20100325/Ubuntu_IRC_Text_Logs to be easier on the eyes :)
[20:46] <Pendulum> pink \o/
[20:46] <pleia2> so that - plus the TOC and headers would be great
[20:47] <AlanBell> the lines that start with "logWrite 1" print out stuff to the plain text file "logWrite 2" prints stuff to the HTML file and logWrite 3 outputs stuff to the moin syntax file
[20:47] <AlanBell> it already had 1 and 2 I just added 3
[20:48] <AlanBell> pleia2: so lots of little tables inbetween topic headers?
[20:48] <pleia2> AlanBell: yeah
[20:51] <akgraner> AlanBell, did you see the Mootbot-UK I added to our wiki's today?
[20:51] <akgraner> Mootbot-UK Howto even
[20:51] <akgraner> dang it
[20:52] <AlanBell> akgraner: no, I didn't, where is that?
[20:52] <czajkowski> dang is usually followed by grrrr and more dangs..
[20:53] <AlanBell> pleia2: so it would start to look a bit like the top of this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot
[20:53] <pleia2> AlanBell: yeah :)
[20:54] <AlanBell> can't say I am a fan of the table layout myself. I don't like the timestamp against every single message and I find the table lines a bit offputting
[20:54] <AlanBell> it ends up not looking like a document or transcript of something
[20:55] <akgraner> one sec I'll grab it
[20:56] <akgraner> http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/Mootbot-UKHowTo
[20:56] <AlanBell> if you look at something like this: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100326024113100 that is a kind of transcript of a discussion
[20:56] <akgraner> it's linked off the agenda page for the meetings
[20:57] <akgraner> AlanBell, http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/April2010/Agenda
[20:57] <AlanBell> akgraner: cool found it thanks
[20:57] <AlanBell> that is great!
[20:58] <akgraner> thanks  - I wanted to make sure that anyone who wants to chair a meeting would be able to
[20:59] <akgraner> _marx_ is going to tweak them to use for NC as well
[21:16] <AlanBell> I could do the nick colour thing (or color for those who don't like u in their colour) but it would involve using the {{{#!HTML parser
[21:16] <AlanBell> which feels like cheating
[21:19] <akgraner> :-)
[21:20] <AlanBell> moin doesn't have a native way to change the foreground text colour
[21:20] <AlanBell> there are macros that can do it, but they are not installed
[21:32] <AlanBell> nick colouring is going to be cool, if I can work it out
[21:33] <AlanBell> basically take the nick e.g. "akgraner" and convert that to a number that corresponds somehow to the hue of a colour
[21:34] <AlanBell> saturation and value stay constant so there is a farly constant contrast
[21:51]  * AlanBell wonders whether to rewrite the bot from scratch in python