[07:04] <Lucky__> Hi
[07:05] <Lucky__> Anybody there?
[10:30] <neil_d> I am trying to get a usb pendrive on a client to mount so its accessible.. but it isn't going I have LOCALDEV=true set for this client.. I think I have done all the setup needed but it still isn't working... can anyone help?
[10:45] <alkisg> neil_d: if you run ltsp-localapps xterm, does an xterm start?
[10:49] <neil_d> alkisg: why!   I have a ssh into the terminal atm.
[10:49] <alkisg> neil_d: ah, ok. What do you get with `getltscfg -a` ?
[10:49] <alkisg> (http://paste.ubuntu.com)
[10:52] <neil_d> http://paste.ubuntu.com/402338/
[10:54] <alkisg> neil_d: why startx and not ldm?
[10:55] <alkisg> (btw, LOCALDEV defaults to true, so you don't need to specify it)
[10:56] <alkisg> And, which ubuntu version is that? X_CONF is used nowadays..
[10:56] <neil_d> alkisg: I have the default set to false... to stop all other terminals using usb stuff.
[10:57] <neil_d> alkisg: I am using hardy
[10:57] <alkisg> OK - btw, here's the man page, for X_CONF etc: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
[10:58] <alkisg> Why startx and not ldm?
[10:58] <neil_d> it is what worked when I setup the system.
[11:45] <neil_d> I am trying to get a usb pendrive on a client to mount so its accessible.. but it isn't going I have LOCALDEV=true set for this client.. I think I have done all the setup needed but it still isn't working...  there is an entry in "/var/run/ltspfs_fstab" on the client...  should there be an ltspfs_fstab on the server...  can anyone help?
[11:46] <alkisg> neil_d: why don't you try with ldm?
[11:48] <alkisg> ltspfsd relies on an xprop token, which might be handled by ldm...
[11:48] <neil_d> alkisg: because the terminal is miles away and I don't want to upset it booting.... and what could a different way of starting the gui do?
[11:49] <alkisg> neil_d: ldm contains a set of scripts which won't run if you just start x, I believe
[11:49] <alkisg> I'm not sure, but it might be the reason why your usb stick isn't working
[11:50] <neil_d> alkisg: ok I give it a go...
[11:56] <neil_d> alkisg: no change
[11:57] <alkisg> neil_d: ok, leave ldm running there, don't put xdmcp (startx) back
[11:57] <alkisg> Can you mount the stick manually?
[11:57] <neil_d> alkisg: I will try again.. it i mounted it yesterday.. hang on a minute.
[11:59] <neil_d> alkisg: it does mount..
[12:01] <alkisg> There's a troubleshooting page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev but it's a little old
[12:02] <neil_d> alkisg: yes.. I have been reading that page.
[12:04] <alkisg> if you run /sbin/udevadm monitor, do you see messages produced when you plug/unplug the stick?
[12:05] <alkisg> Does ltspfsd run on the client? Do you have an ltspfs process on the server, running as the user that is logged on the thin client?
[12:08] <neil_d> alkisg: there are no ltspfs processors running.. but then atm noone is logged into any terminal.
[12:09] <alkisg> I think you need to logon someone for the mounting to work
[12:12] <neil_d> alkisg: I don't know of any way to do that remotely... nobody is there atm.    why would logging in someone be needed?
[12:13] <alkisg> neil_d: a process needs to be ran on the server with the logged on users' credentials
[12:13] <alkisg> neil_d: you can put LDM_AUTOLOGIN and LDM_USERNAME /password to get someone logged on automatically
[12:13] <neil_d> alkisg: btw.. its 11PM on a Saturday here atm
[12:13] <alkisg> neil_d: 11pm? where are you! :)
[12:13] <neil_d> alkisg: yes
[12:14] <alkisg> Japan?!
[12:14] <neil_d> no!  Australia, NSW
[12:14]  * alkisg is in Greece... 2 pm
[12:30] <neil_d> alkisg: I LDM_USERNAME and LDM_PASSWORD ... but it didn't appear to work... the LDM_PASSWORD is the password in the clear isn't it?
[12:30] <alkisg> neil_d: yes, but did you also put LDM_AUTOLOGIN=True?
[12:30] <neil_d> alkisg: to be exact I put LDM_AUTOLOGIN=true
[12:31] <alkisg> Yeah that should be fine...
[12:31] <alkisg> Do you see any failed logon attempts in your server's auth.log?
[12:37] <neil_d> alkisg: I got this in my log "Public key 28:1e:20:a0:6f:49:94:ae:43:1e:ba:f6:f4:b5:d8:3f blacklisted (see ssh-vulnkey(1))"
[12:37] <alkisg> neil_d: maybe you need to update your chroot then
[12:38] <neil_d> alkisg: it was update several time on Friday.   How would I change the ssh key?
[12:40] <alkisg> sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get update && sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get dist-upgrade...
[12:40] <alkisg> I think the openssh installer automatically updates the blacklisted keys
[12:46] <bencrisford> afternoon all
[12:49] <neil_d> alkisg: working...
[12:50] <alkisg> neil_d: the stick? nice!
[12:50] <neil_d> alkisg: no! the update.
[12:50] <alkisg> Heh, ok
[13:20] <neil_d> alkisg: the dist-upgrade does nothing..
[13:21] <alkisg> neil_d: then you already have an updated image. Did you also run ltsp-update-image?
[13:21] <neil_d> yes... and still got the messages.
[13:23]  * alkisg doesn't know... google for update ssh keys etc, it isn't ltsp related...
[13:24] <alkisg> neil_d: ah, do try: sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-image
[13:24] <alkisg> Maybe the problem is with the server ssh keys that are copied to the image...
[13:28] <alkisg> neil_d: is that setup working? I mean how where you working with xmdcp and broken ssh keys?
[13:31] <neil_d> alkisg: I dont know but it is working.. maybe only one key is not so good.   after all the key still works its just the security that isn't as high as it could be.
[14:10] <neil_d> alkisg: ltsp-update-sshkeys didn't take any noticeable time... I don't think it did anything... anyway the error is still happening.
[14:11] <alkisg> neil_d: ltsp-update-image is needed *after* the ltsp-update-sshkeys
[14:11] <neil_d> alkisg: I give up for now.. thanks for trying to help.
[14:11] <alkisg> OK, bye
[14:11] <neil_d> alkisg: yes I know I did do that.. still no joy on that front.
[15:15] <joerg> hey
[15:18] <highvoltage> hey joerg
[16:15] <bencrisford> highvoltage: you around?
[17:32] <bencrisford_> highvoltage: hi
[17:34] <highvoltage> hi bencrisford_
[17:34] <bencrisford_> highvoltage: ubuntu installed again :D:D:D:D
[17:34] <bencrisford_> i have to say, the boot time on 10.04 really took my breath away
[17:34] <bencrisford_> its better than arch...
[17:36] <bencrisford_> anyway, i have to go, ill brb
[17:37] <bencrisford_> when i get back im gonna sort out my old files, because im sure that somewhere i have a heap of unfinished edubuntu stuff
[17:37] <bencrisford_> mainly posters
[17:38] <bencrisford_> its probably all useless, but there might be some stuff worth finding ;)
[17:42] <highvoltage> bencrisford_: great!
[17:42] <highvoltage> bencrisford_: yes boot time is really getting good, ltsp boot time is super-fast too
[18:00] <bencrisford_> back =)
[18:43] <bencrisford> highvoltage: launchpad has changed :S