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MartynYep00:00
MartynWell, the 4430 is also dual core .. but the addition of mini PCI-e is awesome00:00
rcn-eeand lets not forget the graphics, do they provide the same type of binary blob as in the x86 world, so it works with the latest kernel and xorg?00:01
rcn-eecrap, really should have builtin my usb driver for net install..00:02
Martynno00:05
Martynthe nVidia driver is not quite so clean00:05
armin76NCommander: suihkulokki: zumbi: lool: http://bit.ly/cRN5ta <- about tegra2 in case you're interested11:07
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armin76ssvb: ^11:31
ssvbarmin76: Thanks, interesting, though it's a bit sad that they decided not to include NEON. On some tasks like for example video transcoding, NEON can provide a huge help, and it has nothing to do with floating point.11:35
ssvbarmin76: they probably want to offload all this stuff to some dedicated HW accelerators, but the question is how well are they going to be supported in linux11:36
armin76ssvb: well, you've read what they've said about why neon is missing11:39
ssvbarmin76: yes, and it did not sound convincing11:41
armin76ok :)11:42
armin76ssvb: btw, if you have any test, i'm happy to do it :)11:42
suihkulokkiarmin76: dual-core cortex-a9 - does it survive ltp pthread stress tests? :)11:46
armin76suihkulokki: gimme link and i'll tel you11:50
armin76tell*11:50
suihkulokkiarmin76: apt-get install ltp12:00
armin76lol12:07
armin76apt-get install ltp12:07
armin76-bash: apt-get: command not found12:07
armin76:P12:08
ssvbarmin76: 'emerge -pv ltp' :-)12:09
armin76yep :P12:10
armin76suihkulokki: what command should i use?12:46
suihkulokkiarmin76: all the pth* and mmap*, I think you can select them from the menu too13:27
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ogra_cmpchttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-live/20100327/15:06
ogra_cmpcnow we only need a kernel that actually boots for OMAP :)15:06
rcn-eecool ogra!15:07
ogra_cmpcto sad it doesnt boot though15:08
ogra_cmpcDSS2 patches still missing and aufs is broken .... but we'll get there15:08
rcn-eeit should boot... is it based off the orignal 500 kernel?15:08
rcn-ee(dl'ing)15:08
rcn-eeor wait, does it stop at 'Uncompressing... "?15:09
ogra_cmpcno, it stops when trying to mount the squashfs15:09
ogra_cmpcbut you wont see that since the output defaults to framebuffer (which stays dark without DSS2)15:10
rcn-eeokay, differenet bug effecting me this morning.. ;)15:10
ogra_cmpcthe live image needs any kind of working union filesystem15:11
ogra_cmpcunionfs isnt enabled in the current kernel build and aufs segfaults ...15:11
ogra_cmpcso there is no way to boot the image atm15:11
ogra_cmpcbut we'll get there15:11
ogra_cmpcnext kernel upload should make it work15:12
rcn-eeyeah, DSS2 still needs this enabled for the beagle http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~beagleboard-kernel/%2Bjunk/lucid-ti-omap/annotate/head%3A/patches/beagle/002-beagle-dss2.diff  (and it needs to be tweaked for 2.6.34-rc2's dss2 patches amit pulled in)15:12
ogra_cmpcright, he is working on that15:12
ogra_cmpcwe'll have alternate server images soon, these dont need union filesystems and should boot15:13
ogra_cmpcmy main focus was on the live image for now, server is next15:13
rcn-eeokay, sounds right...  Is there  a good way to resync the download without pulling 500mb every new upload?15:14
ogra_cmpcuse zsync15:15
ogra_cmpcthere is a zsync file on the download page15:15
rcn-eeokay, thanks i'll look into zsync..15:15
MartynI was -so- picked over by airport security today.   I have both the OMAP44xx board and the tegra board in my baggage.  They insisted in looking through _everything_15:16
armin76in your babbage? :D15:17
MartynI think one of the ribbon cables to the OMAP4 board was damaged ... so I had a supervisor -sign- that they took it out of a protective case and that they are responsible.15:17
MartynIt's a slow day a the airport, I think they were bored and wanted to search stuff15:17
rcn-eehey ogra, not sure if you subscript to the beagle group, but koen posted a new MLO/U-boot combo, so every board needs to be updated.. http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/110b417a0ec7b03d15:19
ogra_cmpcah, thanks, i'll look into it next week15:20
Martynrcn-ee : There's also a new release of UEFI for beagle from last week as well15:20
Martynwe've been testing it @ Smooth-Stone .. it's not bad.15:20
MartynAll this week, I'm looking at polishing the kexec support in the ARM kernel, and trying for a 'soft' bootloader based on a kernel15:21
rcn-eefrom what i've seen the idea looks promising...  but we still have a lot of things u-boot set's up for the kenrel (ehci power)15:21
Martynrcn-ee : Yep, this is why I'm working on a kernel based bootloader15:22
Martynthat way you can get all the drivers up, and use a kernel to boot -another- kernel in a more generic fashion15:22
Martynwith a configuration file present in an ext2/3/4, or fat/vfat filesystem (along with boot kernel and ramdisk)15:23
ogra_cmpcwell, *if* kexec works15:23
Martynogra_cmpc : I'm ---so--- close15:23
rcn-eekinda sounds like device tree's. ;)15:23
Martynrcn-ee : I'm working with Grant .. yea15:23
ogra_cmpcMartyn, well, our kexec experiments in ludic (at least for the supported kerenls) broke suspend/resume15:24
ogra_cmpc*lucid15:24
* ogra_cmpc goe afk doing weekendish stuff15:24
Martynbut I have the code working now .. testing it on OMAP3, OMAP4, i.mx51/515, dove, tegra2 and other arm v7 processors I can get my hands on15:24
Martynogra_cmpc : Have a good weekend :)15:24
Martynogra_cmpc : Yeah, I came across that early.  The problem was with the way kexec blows over some registers .. I added a patch that saves the registers first.15:25
Martynogra_cmpc : I'm going to submit the patch to arm-kernel list in about two weeks15:25
Martynand I expect this work to be relevant to lucid+115:25
Martyn(next UDS :) )15:26
Martynre15:48
Martynairport wifi FTL15:48
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loolarmin76: interesting, thanks18:03
NCommanderlool: just got a set of git emails yesterday on pselect support landing on trunk20:46
DanaGrcn-ee: you around?  I tried the Lucid stuff, and found it doesn't seem to handle MTD at all.21:26
DanaGThat is, the in-repo kernel.21:26
rcn-eeDanaG, yeap, i think i fixed that one.. (cat /proc/mtd gives the devices)  CONFIG_MTD_NAND_OMAP2 needs to be builtin...21:28
DanaGI also got nonworking USB (both EHCI and musb).21:28
rcn-eeyeap, that also requires 3 modules to be builtin... i sent an email to ubuntu's kernel-team with a patch for that...21:29
rcn-eefingers crossed, amit will commit the change later this week https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2010-March/009484.html21:31
DanaGWhat's new between v2.6.33-dl.1/ and  v2.6.33.1-dl4/, in a nutshell?  (don't want to read however many hundreds of git commits =þ )21:31
rcn-eeDanaG, some good news: we have a netbook image.. (although it doesn't boot) http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-live/current/21:32
DanaGcool, though.21:32
rcn-eein a nut shell, i'm trying to figure out why .1 isn't booting on Squeeze & lucid...21:33
rcn-eeCross Compiled with 4.3.1, 4.4.1 works... Native built in lucid works (uImage)... But the Squeeze and Lucid Deb packages all fail at boot at uncompressing...21:34
DanaGI'm also wondering about that specialcomp.com LCD board... 480x272 (or whatever the resolution was) doesn't seem to already be in the kernel.21:34
rcn-eei think .1-d5 fixed it.. but the beagle won't finish that deb package for another 4 hours..21:34
rcn-eeCool, never heard of their lcd...21:36
DanaGI've also heard of some other companies having bigger LCDs.21:37
rcn-eesomeone would have to implement that..  I haven't connected any lcd thru the lcd interface..21:37
rcn-ee(just hdmi/dvi connected ones)21:37
rcn-eeoh, the other weird thing... the lenny deb package (built with 4.3.x) for .1-dx works just fine, running it on one beagle.. it defintelly looks like a 4.4.x native bug..21:39
DanaGoh yeah, and I tried suspend on the beagle... it suspended, but didn't seem to give any way to wake it up. =þ21:41
rcn-eeyeah, not sure what you could wake it up with.. most perhiperals need power from the twlxxxx chip which the kernel and u-boot setup...21:43
DanaGThat 3-port-hub-with-ethernet is nice -- in Windows on my host system, it can USB-wake the host.21:45
DanaGhmm, are audio and/or midi gadget enabled now?21:46
rcn-eeaudio output from a wave file worked when i tested it, but all the gadget stuff relies on the usb modules being builtin first..21:47
DanaGdoes it work to keep g_ether as a module?21:49
DanaGAnd can you load more than one gadget-type driver (such as g_ether and g_audio) simultaneously?21:49
rcn-eeit's possible, but once you do that on boards with only the otg interface, your stuck with using an mmc card as rootfs...21:51
rcn-eeIt's what they do in Angstrom, I've gone in the oposite direction with my debian/ubuntu kernel's as i have the rootfs on a big usb harddrive...21:53
DanaGhmm, I'm also curious whether gadget audio can do multichannel.22:08
DanaGI have a USB surround-sound card that goes all crackly-sputtery in Windows... so I'd like to be able to use the beagleboard as an intermediary.22:09
DanaGwindows talks to beagleboard as USB sound card... and then beagleboard talks to real sound card.22:09
DanaGhmm, so does -1-dl3 work?22:18
rcn-eenope, thats the one that fails at decompression..22:19
rcn-eei think i solved it in .1-dl5, it should be done in 4 hours..22:19
rcn-eejust watch: http://rcn-ee.homeip.net:81/dl/farm/log/BUILDING-2.6.33.1-dl5_1.0-lucid.txt22:20
rcn-eei tested a uimage and modules builtin a chroot for that and it worked on lucid, so the deb package variation of it shoudl work...22:21
DanaGDec 31 16:12:08 beagleboard NetworkManager: <WARN>  device_creator(): /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/gadget/net/usb0: couldn't determine device driver; ignoring...22:30
DanaGhmm, it seems networkmanager doesn't like usb0.  Can't use networkmanager to make the shared-out network.22:30
DanaGlinux-image-2.6.33-500-omap will be upgraded from version 2.6.33-500.3 to version 2.6.33-500.3.22:45
DanaGweird.22:45

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