[00:00] <Martyn> Yep
[00:00] <Martyn> Well, the 4430 is also dual core .. but the addition of mini PCI-e is awesome
[00:01] <rcn-ee> and lets not forget the graphics, do they provide the same type of binary blob as in the x86 world, so it works with the latest kernel and xorg?
[00:02] <rcn-ee> crap, really should have builtin my usb driver for net install..
[00:05] <Martyn> no
[00:05] <Martyn> the nVidia driver is not quite so clean
[11:07] <armin76> NCommander: suihkulokki: zumbi: lool: http://bit.ly/cRN5ta <- about tegra2 in case you're interested
[11:31] <armin76> ssvb: ^
[11:35] <ssvb> armin76: Thanks, interesting, though it's a bit sad that they decided not to include NEON. On some tasks like for example video transcoding, NEON can provide a huge help, and it has nothing to do with floating point.
[11:36] <ssvb> armin76: they probably want to offload all this stuff to some dedicated HW accelerators, but the question is how well are they going to be supported in linux
[11:39] <armin76> ssvb: well, you've read what they've said about why neon is missing
[11:41] <ssvb> armin76: yes, and it did not sound convincing
[11:42] <armin76> ok :)
[11:42] <armin76> ssvb: btw, if you have any test, i'm happy to do it :)
[11:46] <suihkulokki> armin76: dual-core cortex-a9 - does it survive ltp pthread stress tests? :)
[11:50] <armin76> suihkulokki: gimme link and i'll tel you
[11:50] <armin76> tell*
[12:00] <suihkulokki> armin76: apt-get install ltp
[12:07] <armin76> lol
[12:07] <armin76> apt-get install ltp
[12:07] <armin76> -bash: apt-get: command not found
[12:08] <armin76> :P
[12:09] <ssvb> armin76: 'emerge -pv ltp' :-)
[12:10] <armin76> yep :P
[12:46] <armin76> suihkulokki: what command should i use?
[13:27] <suihkulokki> armin76: all the pth* and mmap*, I think you can select them from the menu too
[15:06] <ogra_cmpc> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-live/20100327/
[15:06] <ogra_cmpc> now we only need a kernel that actually boots for OMAP :)
[15:07] <rcn-ee> cool ogra!
[15:08] <ogra_cmpc> to sad it doesnt boot though
[15:08] <ogra_cmpc> DSS2 patches still missing and aufs is broken .... but we'll get there
[15:08] <rcn-ee> it should boot... is it based off the orignal 500 kernel?
[15:08] <rcn-ee> (dl'ing)
[15:09] <rcn-ee> or wait, does it stop at 'Uncompressing... "?
[15:09] <ogra_cmpc> no, it stops when trying to mount the squashfs
[15:10] <ogra_cmpc> but you wont see that since the output defaults to framebuffer (which stays dark without DSS2)
[15:10] <rcn-ee> okay, differenet bug effecting me this morning.. ;)
[15:11] <ogra_cmpc> the live image needs any kind of working union filesystem
[15:11] <ogra_cmpc> unionfs isnt enabled in the current kernel build and aufs segfaults ...
[15:11] <ogra_cmpc> so there is no way to boot the image atm
[15:11] <ogra_cmpc> but we'll get there
[15:12] <ogra_cmpc> next kernel upload should make it work
[15:12] <rcn-ee> yeah, DSS2 still needs this enabled for the beagle http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~beagleboard-kernel/%2Bjunk/lucid-ti-omap/annotate/head%3A/patches/beagle/002-beagle-dss2.diff  (and it needs to be tweaked for 2.6.34-rc2's dss2 patches amit pulled in)
[15:12] <ogra_cmpc> right, he is working on that
[15:13] <ogra_cmpc> we'll have alternate server images soon, these dont need union filesystems and should boot
[15:13] <ogra_cmpc> my main focus was on the live image for now, server is next
[15:14] <rcn-ee> okay, sounds right...  Is there  a good way to resync the download without pulling 500mb every new upload?
[15:15] <ogra_cmpc> use zsync
[15:15] <ogra_cmpc> there is a zsync file on the download page
[15:15] <rcn-ee> okay, thanks i'll look into zsync..
[15:16] <Martyn> I was -so- picked over by airport security today.   I have both the OMAP44xx board and the tegra board in my baggage.  They insisted in looking through _everything_
[15:17] <armin76> in your babbage? :D
[15:17] <Martyn> I think one of the ribbon cables to the OMAP4 board was damaged ... so I had a supervisor -sign- that they took it out of a protective case and that they are responsible.
[15:17] <Martyn> It's a slow day a the airport, I think they were bored and wanted to search stuff
[15:19] <rcn-ee> hey ogra, not sure if you subscript to the beagle group, but koen posted a new MLO/U-boot combo, so every board needs to be updated.. http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/110b417a0ec7b03d
[15:20] <ogra_cmpc> ah, thanks, i'll look into it next week
[15:20] <Martyn> rcn-ee : There's also a new release of UEFI for beagle from last week as well
[15:20] <Martyn> we've been testing it @ Smooth-Stone .. it's not bad.
[15:21] <Martyn> All this week, I'm looking at polishing the kexec support in the ARM kernel, and trying for a 'soft' bootloader based on a kernel
[15:21] <rcn-ee> from what i've seen the idea looks promising...  but we still have a lot of things u-boot set's up for the kenrel (ehci power)
[15:22] <Martyn> rcn-ee : Yep, this is why I'm working on a kernel based bootloader
[15:22] <Martyn> that way you can get all the drivers up, and use a kernel to boot -another- kernel in a more generic fashion
[15:23] <Martyn> with a configuration file present in an ext2/3/4, or fat/vfat filesystem (along with boot kernel and ramdisk)
[15:23] <ogra_cmpc> well, *if* kexec works
[15:23] <Martyn> ogra_cmpc : I'm ---so--- close
[15:23] <rcn-ee> kinda sounds like device tree's. ;)
[15:23] <Martyn> rcn-ee : I'm working with Grant .. yea
[15:24] <ogra_cmpc> Martyn, well, our kexec experiments in ludic (at least for the supported kerenls) broke suspend/resume
[15:24] <ogra_cmpc> *lucid
[15:24]  * ogra_cmpc goe afk doing weekendish stuff
[15:24] <Martyn> but I have the code working now .. testing it on OMAP3, OMAP4, i.mx51/515, dove, tegra2 and other arm v7 processors I can get my hands on
[15:24] <Martyn> ogra_cmpc : Have a good weekend :)
[15:25] <Martyn> ogra_cmpc : Yeah, I came across that early.  The problem was with the way kexec blows over some registers .. I added a patch that saves the registers first.
[15:25] <Martyn> ogra_cmpc : I'm going to submit the patch to arm-kernel list in about two weeks
[15:25] <Martyn> and I expect this work to be relevant to lucid+1
[15:26] <Martyn> (next UDS :) )
[15:48] <Martyn> re
[15:48] <Martyn> airport wifi FTL
[18:03] <lool> armin76: interesting, thanks
[20:46] <NCommander> lool: just got a set of git emails yesterday on pselect support landing on trunk
[21:26] <DanaG> rcn-ee: you around?  I tried the Lucid stuff, and found it doesn't seem to handle MTD at all.
[21:26] <DanaG> That is, the in-repo kernel.
[21:28] <rcn-ee> DanaG, yeap, i think i fixed that one.. (cat /proc/mtd gives the devices)  CONFIG_MTD_NAND_OMAP2 needs to be builtin...
[21:28] <DanaG> I also got nonworking USB (both EHCI and musb).
[21:29] <rcn-ee> yeap, that also requires 3 modules to be builtin... i sent an email to ubuntu's kernel-team with a patch for that...
[21:31] <rcn-ee> fingers crossed, amit will commit the change later this week https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2010-March/009484.html
[21:31] <DanaG> What's new between v2.6.33-dl.1/ and  v2.6.33.1-dl4/, in a nutshell?  (don't want to read however many hundreds of git commits =þ )
[21:32] <rcn-ee> DanaG, some good news: we have a netbook image.. (although it doesn't boot) http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-live/current/
[21:32] <DanaG> cool, though.
[21:33] <rcn-ee> in a nut shell, i'm trying to figure out why .1 isn't booting on Squeeze & lucid...
[21:34] <rcn-ee> Cross Compiled with 4.3.1, 4.4.1 works... Native built in lucid works (uImage)... But the Squeeze and Lucid Deb packages all fail at boot at uncompressing...
[21:34] <DanaG> I'm also wondering about that specialcomp.com LCD board... 480x272 (or whatever the resolution was) doesn't seem to already be in the kernel.
[21:34] <rcn-ee> i think .1-d5 fixed it.. but the beagle won't finish that deb package for another 4 hours..
[21:36] <rcn-ee> Cool, never heard of their lcd...
[21:37] <DanaG> I've also heard of some other companies having bigger LCDs.
[21:37] <rcn-ee> someone would have to implement that..  I haven't connected any lcd thru the lcd interface..
[21:37] <rcn-ee> (just hdmi/dvi connected ones)
[21:39] <rcn-ee> oh, the other weird thing... the lenny deb package (built with 4.3.x) for .1-dx works just fine, running it on one beagle.. it defintelly looks like a 4.4.x native bug..
[21:41] <DanaG> oh yeah, and I tried suspend on the beagle... it suspended, but didn't seem to give any way to wake it up. =þ
[21:43] <rcn-ee> yeah, not sure what you could wake it up with.. most perhiperals need power from the twlxxxx chip which the kernel and u-boot setup...
[21:45] <DanaG> That 3-port-hub-with-ethernet is nice -- in Windows on my host system, it can USB-wake the host.
[21:46] <DanaG> hmm, are audio and/or midi gadget enabled now?
[21:47] <rcn-ee> audio output from a wave file worked when i tested it, but all the gadget stuff relies on the usb modules being builtin first..
[21:49] <DanaG> does it work to keep g_ether as a module?
[21:49] <DanaG> And can you load more than one gadget-type driver (such as g_ether and g_audio) simultaneously?
[21:51] <rcn-ee> it's possible, but once you do that on boards with only the otg interface, your stuck with using an mmc card as rootfs...
[21:53] <rcn-ee> It's what they do in Angstrom, I've gone in the oposite direction with my debian/ubuntu kernel's as i have the rootfs on a big usb harddrive...
[22:08] <DanaG> hmm, I'm also curious whether gadget audio can do multichannel.
[22:09] <DanaG> I have a USB surround-sound card that goes all crackly-sputtery in Windows... so I'd like to be able to use the beagleboard as an intermediary.
[22:09] <DanaG> windows talks to beagleboard as USB sound card... and then beagleboard talks to real sound card.
[22:18] <DanaG> hmm, so does -1-dl3 work?
[22:19] <rcn-ee> nope, thats the one that fails at decompression..
[22:19] <rcn-ee> i think i solved it in .1-dl5, it should be done in 4 hours..
[22:20] <rcn-ee> just watch: http://rcn-ee.homeip.net:81/dl/farm/log/BUILDING-2.6.33.1-dl5_1.0-lucid.txt
[22:21] <rcn-ee> i tested a uimage and modules builtin a chroot for that and it worked on lucid, so the deb package variation of it shoudl work...
[22:30] <DanaG> Dec 31 16:12:08 beagleboard NetworkManager: <WARN>  device_creator(): /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/gadget/net/usb0: couldn't determine device driver; ignoring...
[22:30] <DanaG> hmm, it seems networkmanager doesn't like usb0.  Can't use networkmanager to make the shared-out network.
[22:45] <DanaG> linux-image-2.6.33-500-omap will be upgraded from version 2.6.33-500.3 to version 2.6.33-500.3.
[22:45] <DanaG> weird.