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marine1hello all can I get some help in upgrading to firefox 3.6.200:00
marine1I'm currently running 3.5.8 in shiretoko(minefield)00:01
phillwhi marine100:02
marine1phillw: what's up00:03
phillwI'll just go get the instructions for you00:03
marine1phillw: i tried looking at  the ubuntuzilla way of upgrading  but it did not work00:03
marine1phillw: http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/133401/00:04
phillwI had the ubuntu firefox guru tell me how to do it, I'll just log on & get the details, be a couple of minutes.00:05
marine1phillw: sounds great!! Firefox guru?? they also just released 3.7 alpha build00:07
phillwlovinglinux, he's a star & a really nice person to boot ... So, hold your breath, this sounds scary, but works :-)00:07
marine1phillw: i stand corrected it's the 3.7 alpha 4 version00:07
marine1phillw: O.K. sounds good :P00:09
phillwhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193567&highlight=OverrideGPUValidation&page=41  What you'll be doing is using synaptics to completely remove all occurances of ffox. (it does not remove you history / bookmarks) Then tell synaptics to get firefox. As i was on the daily etc for shiretoko, you may also want to check that you have the correct repository set up.00:11
phillwmarine1: , heck, he's good :-D00:12
marine1phillw: i copied the link and don't see any instructions on his comments00:15
phillwhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193567&page=41 try that link00:16
bodhi_zazenmarine1: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/installing+Firefox+on+Linux00:18
bodhi_zazendownload the linux tar ball00:18
bodhi_zazensudo tar xvf firefox* -C /usr/local00:18
bodhi_zazenlaunch with00:18
bodhi_zazen /usr/local/firefox/firefox00:18
bodhi_zazenupdate your menu and luancher00:18
lukjad86bodhi_zazen Will it import the old firefox 3.5 bookmarks etc?00:19
bodhi_zazenyes00:19
bodhi_zazenall that stuff is in ~/.mozilla00:20
bodhi_zazenIf you add a ppa, use the icecat ppa00:20
bodhi_zazenhttp://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/icecat-64-bit-how-to-compile/00:20
bodhi_zazenicecat is a nice cat00:20
marine1bodhi_zazen: where is the tar ball located it's not on that page00:20
bodhi_zazen+ GNU privacy extension00:20
lukjad86bodhi_zazen Because there is a firefox 3.5 folder and a firefox folder, and I've heard that there is difficulty sometimes00:20
bodhi_zazenBeen using this method for some time on both Ubutnu and Fedora, no problems00:21
bodhi_zazenmarine1: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/personal.html?from=getfirefox00:21
bodhi_zazenhttp://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-3.6.2&os=linux&lang=en-US00:21
bodhi_zazensecond link from the top on the Left00:22
marine1bodhi_zazen: LOL which link the first or the second00:22
bodhi_zazeneither00:23
bodhi_zazenthe second is direct00:23
bodhi_zazenOh, guess you need to use the first, lol00:23
marine1bodhi_zazen: o.k. done00:23
marine1bodhi_zazen: should i be root at this time and I will follow your directions00:24
lukjad86bodhi_zazen I take it that 64 bit production lags a bit behind 3200:24
bodhi_zazennope, do not need to be root00:24
bodhi_zazenlukjad86: not in the ppa00:24
bodhi_zazenif you are on fedora you need to compile00:24
lukjad86ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/3.6.2/  <-- I don't see the 38600:25
bodhi_zazenmarine1: you need to open a terminal and cd ~/Download or cd ~/Desktop, wherever you saved the firefox tar ball00:25
bodhi_zazenlukjad86: https://launchpad.net/~gnuzilla-team/+archive/ppa00:25
marine1bodhi_zazen: ok it's on the desktop and i got this message :tar: firefox*: Cannot open: No such file or directory00:26
marine1tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now00:26
bodhi_zazenthey have had problems posting the 3.6.2 icecat on the gnu ftp server, not sure why00:26
* lukjad86 hugs bodhi_zazen 00:26
bodhi_zazenthe source is on the ppa00:26
bodhi_zazenicecat_3.6.2.orig.tar.gz00:27
bodhi_zazenhttps://launchpad.net/~gnuzilla-team/+archive/ppa/+files/icecat_3.6.2.orig.tar.gz00:27
marine1bodhi_zazen: robert@robert-desktop:~$ sudo tar xvf firefox* -C /usr/local00:27
marine1[sudo] password for robert:00:27
marine1tar: firefox*: Cannot open: No such file or directory00:27
marine1tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now00:27
bodhi_zazenmarine1: cd Desktop00:27
bodhi_zazenthen tar away, lol00:27
marine1bodhi_zazen: done00:29
bodhi_zazenmarine1: now, as a user run00:29
marine1bodhi_zazen: is this next00:29
marine1bodhi_zazen: /usr/local/firefox/firefox00:29
bodhi_zazen /usr/local/firefox/firefox00:29
bodhi_zazenyep00:29
bodhi_zazenand update your launcher and menu00:29
bodhi_zazenyou can do that with00:29
marine1bodhi_zazen: do I cd out of desktop??00:30
bodhi_zazensudo unlink /bin/firefox00:30
bodhi_zazensudo ln -s /usr/local/firefox/firefox /bin/firefox00:30
bodhi_zazendo not need to marine100:30
bodhi_zazenyou can run the firefox command from anywhere if you specify the full path00:30
marine1bodhi_zazen: robert@robert-desktop:~/Desktop$ /usr/local/firefox/firefox00:31
marine1Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module": /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS6400:31
bodhi_zazenmarine1: you running 64 bit ?00:31
bodhi_zazenlol00:31
marine1bodhi_zazen: my distro is 64 bit00:32
bodhi_zazenWhat distro ?00:33
bodhi_zazenyou can either :00:33
marine1bodhi_zazen:  wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS6400:33
bodhi_zazenmarine1: that is because mozilla does not distribute 64 bit versions00:33
bodhi_zazenyou will need to do this00:33
bodhi_zazenhttp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/00:33
marine1bodhi_zazen: Are you referring to my disto or firefox version?? Ubuntu 9>0400:34
bodhi_zazendelete the current tar ball from your desktop00:34
marine1bodhi_zazen: move to trahs00:34
bodhi_zazenmarine1:  do this then :00:34
marine1trash00:34
bodhi_zazenno, don't do that yet ...00:34
marine1bodhi_zazen: LOl00:35
bodhi_zazensudo apt-get install ia32-libs00:35
marine1bodhi_zazen: O.K. it's till on my desktop should I use a command line function to remove it00:35
bodhi_zazenwhen that is done, run firefox again00:35
bodhi_zazenOh, you can delete the firefox tar ball, it is done with00:36
marine1bodhi_zazen: ia32-libs is already the newest version.00:36
* ZachK_ cheers bodhi_zazen on00:36
bodhi_zazenmarine1:00:37
bodhi_zazencd /usr/local/firefox00:37
marine1bodhi_zazen: yeah go ahead00:37
bodhi_zazenthen00:37
bodhi_zazen./firefox00:37
marine1bodhi_zazen: Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module": /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS6400:38
bodhi_zazenOK00:38
bodhi_zazenwant to try ff 3.7 Alpha4 ?00:38
bodhi_zazenhttp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/00:38
bodhi_zazenyou will see, there is a 64 bit version00:38
bodhi_zazenOr you can add a ppa00:38
bodhi_zazenIf you go the nightly build, get the 64 bit version00:39
marine1bodhi_zazen: is that the problem?00:39
bodhi_zazenrm -rf /usr/local/firefox00:39
bodhi_zazenNo, In fact it works better, lol00:39
bodhi_zazenyou will have a problem with some extensions00:40
marine1bodhi_zazen: rm: cannot remove `/usr/local/firefox/update.locale': Permission denied00:40
bodhi_zazensudo rm -rf /usr/local/firefox00:40
bodhi_zazenDL the 64 bit tar ball to your desktop00:40
bodhi_zazenthen00:40
bodhi_zazensudo tar xvf firefox* -C /usr/local00:40
bodhi_zazenand run it00:40
bodhi_zazen /usr/local/firefox/firefox00:40
marine1bodhi_zazen: from the link you sent right00:40
bodhi_zazenhttp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/firefox-3.7a4pre.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz200:41
bodhi_zazenbut that is a bz2 , so ...00:41
marine1bodhi_zazen: that's correct00:42
bodhi_zazentar jxvf firefox* -C /usr/local00:42
bodhi_zazensudo tar jxvf firefox* -C /usr/local00:42
marine1bodhi_zazen: should i cd back into the desktop00:43
bodhi_zazenyou do not have to ...00:43
bodhi_zazensudo tar jxvf Desktop/firefox* -C /usr/local00:43
marine1bodhi_zazen: ok i'm here right now:robert@robert-desktop:/usr/local/firefox$00:43
bodhi_zazenok00:44
bodhi_zazensudo tar jxvf ~robert/Desktop/firefox* -C /usr/local00:44
bodhi_zazenor00:44
bodhi_zazen cd ~/Desktop00:44
marine1bodhi_zazen: sudo: cannot get working directory00:44
bodhi_zazenthen tar00:44
bodhi_zazendammed security =)00:45
marine1bodhi_zazen: Done00:46
bodhi_zazenok, as a user00:46
bodhi_zazen /usr/local/firefox/firefox00:46
marine1bodhi_zazen: yes not root00:47
bodhi_zazendo you recall the way to update your links00:47
bodhi_zazennope, no firefox as root for u00:47
marine1bodhi_zazen: log in as root00:47
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bodhi_zazenLOL00:47
bodhi_zazenHow do you like minefield marine1 ?00:48
marine1bodhi_zazen: kick ass00:48
marine1bodhi_zazen: you are the man00:48
bodhi_zazenIt will tell you there are updates available often, but I only update when they go from alpha x to alpha X + 100:49
bodhi_zazenyou can update your menus or your links00:50
bodhi_zazensudo unlink /bin/firefox00:50
marine1bodhi_zazen: ok i closed all open firefox and when i relaunched it it says 3.5.800:50
bodhi_zazensudo ln -s /usr/local/firefox/firefox /bin/firefox00:50
bodhi_zazenyou need to update your links or your menus , or the old ff will open00:51
bodhi_zazenor make a custom launcher00:51
marine1bodhi_zazen: how do i update my bookmarks from the older version00:54
marine1bodhi_zazen: can i export them from the older version to my desktop00:54
bodhi_zazenYou should not need to marine100:56
marine1bodhi_zazen:  i did it already because not all of my bookmarks were saved00:56
bodhi_zazenWhen you run minefield it should use your old bookmarks, extensions, etc00:56
bodhi_zazendo you have some but not all of your bookmaks ?00:57
bodhi_zazenI am asking as I have not had that problem.00:57
marine1bodhi_zazen: I had most of the them00:59
bodhi_zazenodd00:59
bodhi_zazenyou could *try* export / import, but back up before you import00:59
bodhi_zazenIf at some point you prefer a ppa, there are several01:00
marine1bodhi_zazen: i did that already it's saved to my dektop just having trouble launching it01:00
bodhi_zazenicecat is the GNU version of firefox , it works well, and is 64 bit01:00
bodhi_zazenhttps://launchpad.net/~gnuzilla-team/+archive/ppa01:00
bodhi_zazenExport -> to desktop01:00
bodhi_zazenclose, re-open01:01
bodhi_zazenImport <-- from Desktop ?01:01
marine1bodhi_zazen: when i right clcked on applications to edit menus the app isn't there01:01
DillIm having a problem with my GRUB bootloader and one of my laptops01:01
Dilldoes anyone think they can help me?01:01
bodhi_zazenmarine1: try the link commands I gave01:02
bodhi_zazenor make a launcher for minefield01:02
marine1bodhi_zazen: where is the links command??01:03
bodhi_zazensudo unlink /bin/firefox01:04
bodhi_zazensudo ln -s /usr/local/firefox/firefox /bin/firefox01:04
marine1bodhi_zazen:  is this it:sudo ln -s /usr/local/firefox/firefox /bin/firefox01:04
bodhi_zazentwo commands, lol01:05
marine1bodhi_zazen: unlink: cannot unlink `/bin/firefox': No such file or directory01:05
bodhi_zazenOK01:05
bodhi_zazenjust the ln command then01:05
bodhi_zazenyou can also01:06
bodhi_zazenlocate firefox01:06
bodhi_zazenjust to make sure it is in /bin/firefox and eslewhere, lol01:06
marine1bodhi_zazen: to many areas to list01:07
bodhi_zazenwhich firefox01:08
marine1bodhi_zazen: /usr/lib/firefox01:08
marine1/usr/lib/firefox-3.0.1801:08
marine1/usr/lib/firefox-3.5.801:08
marine1/usr/lib/firefox-3.601:08
marine1bodhi_zazen: it doesn't list 3.701:09
bodhi_zazenln -s should work then, bot tons of ff versions, lol01:09
bodhi_zazengotta run ...01:09
marine1phillw: thanks for the help before01:13
drew212anyone want to help me fix up my wine to work with lotro?01:15
DarkwingDuckdrew212: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=4891 <-- click on version and it should have instructions01:23
drew212my wine is kinda broken01:24
DarkwingDuckwhat you mean?01:25
drew212i cant install dotnets and whatnot with winetricks01:25
drew212my winetricks failed to install back when i was trying to get other games working and it wont install them01:25
DarkwingDuckwinetricks?01:26
drew212yeah, winetricks it installs certain software and dll's for you01:26
DarkwingDuckwow, i just build the newest from www.winehq.org and use that.01:26
drew212yeah, but how do you install the required dll's?01:27
DarkwingDuckwhat dlls are you trying to install?01:27
drew212well you have to have net framework 1.1 for lotro to work01:28
drew212and it cant install in wine, it throws an error every time01:28
DarkwingDuckhmm...01:28
drew212i have the latest wine version01:28
DarkwingDuckyou built wine from souce... Ive never had a problem doing it from there. Interesting01:30
drew212you are running windows games in wine without the net framework?01:30
DarkwingDuckdrew212: http://wiki.winehq.org/MicrosoftDotNet01:31
drew212so you do use winetricks01:31
drew212lol...01:32
drew212i got to go mang, wife is calling01:32
DarkwingDucknever. I dont use wine that often01:32
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drew212anyone able to help me with playing lotro in wine?02:53
phillwhi drew21203:09
phillwdrew212: what version of lotro are you using ?03:10
drew212phillw: i just downloaded the trial version03:36
phillwhi drew03:38
drew212hi phillw03:38
drew212i tried to get america's army and steam working on ubuntu and it didnt work for me so i gave up, and now im trying to get lotro to work and it doesnt work either...03:39
drew212every time i try to install the net frame work stuff it fails03:39
phillwsorry, i went off doing something else, are you refering to lord of the rings under Wine ?03:39
drew212yes03:39
phillwokies, give me a couple of minutes.03:40
drew212i got the dotnet11 and 20 working with winetricks under windows 2000 but when i start the installer lotro still wants to install the 1.1 net framework03:40
phillwseems an old game ?03:42
drew212kindof03:42
phillwwhich volume ? shadows of Angmar, Stencil Shadows, The Battle for Middle Earth... etc03:44
drew212im not sure... its the trial version =P03:45
drew212i get tons of errors when i try to install stuff to get it working, i think something happened with my wine install03:46
phillwokay, well some of the lotro stuff is rated 'gold' which means it runs pretty okay. for you wine installation, are you using the default ubuntu one, or the beta version ?03:49
drew212uhh03:51
phillwthe beta is the one that keeps getting recommended on the forums. Anyways, the forum area is --> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=31303:51
drew2121.1.4103:51
phillwyou'reon the beta version, which is good :-)03:52
phillwwinehq is over at http://www.winehq.org/  the ubuntu forum is usually quite active & they're always happy to see new blood ;-)03:53
drew212yeah...03:54
drew212its just really frustrating on forums because it can take days or weeks to solve a problem03:55
phillwthe ubuntu one is pretty good. I don't use wine, but people I refer over to it speak highly of it. Do take the time to read the stickys, then use the search function on the forum to look up lotro / lord of the rings; that way you will get threads of others who have discussed it.03:57
drew212yeah...03:57
phillwdrew212: this thread has been going on a long time --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38648004:03
phillwstarted back in 2007, still going a cple of weeks ago04:03
phillwhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1309341&highlight=lotro has a quick solution for 9.1004:05
phillwyou'll have to have a dig round on that area04:05
phillwdrew212: I hope that helps04:06
drew212the problem is i don't know where to start... anything i try to do in wine fails04:06
drew212well just about04:07
phillwmake sure you have it installed correctly --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88511104:08
drew212i used synaptic04:08
phillwyou may want to do it this way, then --> http://www.winehq.org/download/deb04:10
drew212i've been working on this too long today, i need a break =X04:10
drew212that is synaptic04:10
seidosI've had pretty good luck with wine, but I haven't tried getting anything very robust running with it04:11
seidosdrew212, maybe you should start smaller04:11
phillwwhilst you should be wary of adding ppas' that ppa should be okay04:11
drew212i got WoW running back in the day =P04:11
phillwseidos: thanks, i have never run wine, so any help you can give is much appreciated :-)04:12
seidosphillw, hope I helped04:16
seidosdrew212, you used to run WoW in wine?  that's pretty impressive when you think about it04:17
drew212lol04:17
drew212yeah04:17
drew212i just copied over my install from windows and it worked flawlessly04:17
seidosah, yeah that's usually the problem.  getting the software installed04:17
drew212yeah, i cant get lotro to install04:18
seidosthe install on windows of wow didn't need access to the registry or anything like that04:18
drew212no, i carry an install of wow on my flash drive and run it on school computers *evilgrin*04:18
seidosif only you could tell the installer that c: is / or something04:19
seidoshow big is an install of WoW?04:19
drew212few gigs?04:19
seidosyou must have a pretty big flash drive04:19
drew2128gb flash drives are cheap04:19
drew212you can get them for like $12-2004:20
seidosthat is pretty cheap04:20
* seidos wonders when flash memory will replace cd's and dvd's04:20
seidosflash drives would have to get down to like ten cents for that to happen I bet04:21
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leoquantgoeden morgen dezen morgen10:45
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st4aluckI have problem with the power on my laptop. When I start it on battery it freezes. Can somebody help me!!!11:23
lukjad86st4aluck Is this only on ubuntu?11:29
st4alucklukjad86: it in 9.10 and 10.04 gnom and kde11:30
lukjad86Hm11:30
lukjad86Did this happen on the live CD?11:30
lukjad86Or were you running it off the power cord?11:30
st4alucklukjad86: on 8.04 no probs11:30
lukjad86st4aluck Is this an Asus X50V?11:31
st4aluckno it's toshiba A20511:31
lukjad86Hm...11:31
st4aluckwhen I pull the cable no problems. But when I try to start it on battery only it freezes11:32
lukjad86Yes... I see a few random bugs like this. Let me see if I can find some detailed instructions11:33
st4aluck10x11:34
lukjad86Does it say something like loading hardware drivers then freeze?11:34
st4alucklukjad86: http://paste.ubuntu.com/402343/11:36
st4aluckeven somethimes can'tload the grub11:37
st4alucklukjad86: it's only on battery11:38
lukjad86Someone fixed this by changing the option "boot post" in their bios to "thorough".11:39
lukjad86http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62222011:40
lukjad86st4aluck When it freezes does it produce lines on the screen?11:41
st4alucklukjad86: no11:42
lukjad86jm11:42
lukjad86st4aluck Do you have a forum thread yet?11:42
st4alucklukjad86: not yet11:42
lukjad86st4aluck I'd post it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=33211:43
st4alucklet me try the one you gave me11:43
lukjad86st4aluck Okay, if that doesn't work, mentioned you tried that :)11:43
lukjad86st4aluck Make sure to put the name of your laptop model and the versions you tried :)11:43
st4alucklukjad86: as i thought it may be something with the bios11:47
lukjad86st4aluck Yes, it may be.11:48
lukjad86st4aluck If you need any more help, feel free to return or post in the forums :)11:49
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st4alucklukjad86: nothing, even when I unplug the cable it freezes13:34
lukjad86st4aluck Hi13:42
lukjad86st4aluck Well, try posting on the forums in the hardware and laptop section, there may be more help there13:42
st4alucklukjad86: nothing, even when I unplug the cable it freezes13:42
lukjad86http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62222013:42
lukjad86st4aluck It sounds like a drivers problem13:43
st4alucklukjad86: what shall I do then13:44
st4alucklukjad86: http://paste.ubuntu.com/402401/13:46
jdeloachCould someone help me stop programs from maximizing in both my monitors? ( ATI & Open source drivers )13:48
lukjad86st4aluck I don't own a laptop, so I'm not too sure. The hardware and laptop sub-forum should be able to have a few more ideas13:55
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nhandlerstancho: Can you please disable that away script?14:56
stanchoit is no script14:56
stanchoI manuali go in Away14:57
nhandlerstancho: Yes, but it was a script that did: 09:42:04  * stancho is back (gone 02:06:25)14:57
stanchoок I look for this14:58
stanchoand turn off14:58
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nhandlerAnyone have a solution to this issue other than the one presented: http://xkcd.com/196/15:10
geirhasystem -> preferences -> screensaver ?15:13
DarkwingDuck:D15:16
geirhaand possibly  xset -dpms15:20
nhandlergeirha: Ah, I knew I was forgetting something simple. /me tries to remember if a black screensaver was always on by default15:32
canthus13nhandler: I think there's a program called caffeine that was written to solve that.15:33
soulriderhey there15:34
soulriderlong time no see nhandler :)15:34
nhandlerHello soulrider15:34
soulriderwhats up? havnt been around for a while15:36
canthus13nhandler: http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/08/caffeine-03-is-out-with-major.html15:36
st4aluckI have problem with my laptop toshiba A205 when i pull off the cable it freezes, need help!!!!!!15:36
nigelbst4aluck, pull of what cable?15:36
nhandlercanthus13: Ah cool. I just disabled the screensaver. I'm too lazy and forgetful to remember to click that15:36
st4alucknhandler: the power15:37
soulriderst4aluck, tou cant run it on battery?15:37
st4aluckit is suposed to turn on battery and continue working15:37
st4alucknhandler: Yes that's right15:37
soulriderfirst time ive heard that one15:38
soulriderwhat kernel version are you running?15:38
soulrideri'm sorry, but i have to go =/ have you posted on the forums?15:38
st4aluckI was on 9.10 till today and because this problem I tryed 10.04 but still the same15:39
soulriderTry posting on ubuntuforums.org post as much information as you can and they will be able to help you15:39
soulrideri will be back later.15:39
st4aluckslick666: Which exact forum!?!?15:39
nigelb!forum | st4aluck15:40
Votebotst4aluck: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.15:40
nigelbst4aluck, are you using the original cable?15:40
st4alucknigelb: I was on 8.04 and it was working, the cable is the orig.15:41
nigelb!o4o > nigelb15:41
nigelbst4aluck, In that case, I do not know what is causing your problem.  Please post your problem with as much detail in the forum15:42
st4alucknigelb: I 'd like first to ask around and then I'll post it15:43
st4alucknigelb: it may be a bios problem15:43
nigelbst4aluck, sure :) The forums you have a chance for a delayed response and possibly something from another toshiba owner15:43
st4aluckI wonder wher exactly to ask in the forums15:44
canthus13st4aluck: Hardware & Laptops15:46
nigelbthanks canthus13, forums are really not my thing :)15:47
st4aluckcanthus13: 10x15:48
canthus13nigelb: Mine either. But I used them regularly when I had a troublesome hp laptop.15:55
canthus13st4aluck: no prob.15:55
nhandlerHmm...I'm having a strange issue on lucid (not sure if synergy is related to it or not yet). I can only click on certain buttons and only give certain text fields and other form elements the focus16:28
canthus13nhandler: In firefox?16:34
nhandlercanthus13: In general. For instance, if I open gedit, I can't type. If I hit 'F', the file menu opens, but I can't type, and I can't manually click on 'File'16:38
marine1phillw: you there16:39
marine1hello all need help changing permission on a file16:40
marine1log in as root and still says permission denied16:40
nhandlermarine1: What file?16:42
marine1nhandler: root@robert-desktop:/home/robert# /home/robert/Videos/Movies/201216:42
marine1bash: /home/robert/Videos/Movies/2012: Permission denied16:42
nhandlermarine1: Can you do an 'ls -l' of that folder?16:43
marine1nhandler: for some reason a movile file i have has mysteriously locked itself???16:43
marine1nhandler: proper commnad is ls -l /home/robert/Videos/movies/201216:44
nhandlerOr just run ls -l after you cd into that folder16:45
nhandlerAnd is 2012 a file or folder?16:45
marine1nhandler: a file within a folder:drwxr-xr-x 2 robert robert 4096 2010-03-13 00:11 Movies16:46
marine1nhandler: drwxr-xr-x 2 robert robert 4096 2010-03-13 00:11 Movies16:47
nhandlerSo if you cd /home/robert/Videos/Movies and then run ls -l, what do you get ?16:47
marine1nhandler: it list everything in the folder in purple16:47
nhandlerWhat are the permissions on 2012 ?16:48
marine1it said root before16:49
marine1nhandler: when i ran the ls -l command it only listed the folder itself not what is contained inside of it16:49
nhandlermarine1: Did you cd /home/robert/Videos/Movies first ?16:49
marine1nhandler: here it goes:-rw------- 1 root   root   1603922432 2010-03-13 00:13 201216:50
nhandlermarine1: sudo chmod 644 201016:52
nhandlererr: sudo chmod 644 201216:52
marine1nhandler: i don't know why it would change a file16:52
nhandlerWhy what would?16:52
marine1the file itself it went from a avi file to a file that is white with a lock on it16:53
nhandlermarine1: The colors mean very little to other people since themes change them. But if I had to guess, running as root probably caused root to be the owner of the file. That is why you will want to use sudo instead of logging in as root16:54
marine1nhandler: i just checked it i can play the video but the file itself still contains a lock on the upper right hand corner16:55
marine1nhandler: all of the other file says the owner is me(robert) and that one still says root16:56
nhandlermarine1: Try chown robert:robert 201216:56
marine1nhandler: o.k. that worked16:58
marine1nhandler: file is changed16:58
marine1nhandler: strange occurance though never had I changed root permission for that file16:59
meindian523Anyone know how to reconfigure Xorg in the lucid beta?16:59
meindian523dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core just return me to the prompt16:59
marine1nhandler: thank you17:00
meindian523I tried with and without -phigh17:01
meindian523and there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X1117:01
meindian523:(17:01
meindian523or alternatively to change the screen resolution17:02
meindian523via CLI17:02
nigelbmeindian523, before you reconfigure X you have to kill it17:03
meindian523nigelb, yeah, IIRC, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace was disabled since Jaunty17:04
nigelbyeah, you can reenable it though17:05
meindian523nigelb, thru CLI?17:05
nigelblemme check17:05
nhandlermarine1: You are welcome. And to avoid this in the future, use sudo, not root17:05
nigelbmeindian523, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69076017:06
meindian523nigelb, I've done that shebang17:07
meindian523killing gdm, trying to reconfigure xorg and starting gdm17:07
nigelbmeindian523, in that case, I know no more :(17:07
meindian523no joy17:07
meindian523As mentioned in that thread, it's for Gutsy and older17:07
meindian523I asked for Lucid17:07
marine1nhandler: that is what i was telling you these are normal files i don't have to go into the command line to look at them or watch17:12
meindian523anyone else?17:12
marine1nhandler: how do I chamnged the link so that I can open up the latest firefox 3.7 aplha 4 i successfully d/l it but can't seem to set the launcher or link to it17:14
marine1nhandler: the link is bin/firefox which is in my usr/local foder17:15
marine1nhandler: the command to open it is /usr/local/firefox/firerfox but my terminal stays open with it and when I close  my terminal it closes firefox as well17:16
nhandlermarine1: If you want to run 3.7, why not take the easy road and use the ppa ?17:17
marine1nhandler: can't seem to change it so that it opens up when i click on the minefield globe17:17
nhandlermarine1: If you right click on 'Applications' you can his 'edit menu' and then edit the command that is run17:18
nhandlerBut using the ppa will make your life easier17:18
marine1nhandler: that was the 1st thing I tried17:19
marine1nhandler: how do I use the ppa17:19
nhandlermarine1: Open up a terminal17:19
nhandlersudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa17:19
marine1nhandler: done17:19
nhandlersudo apt-get update17:19
nhandlersudo apt-get install firefox-3.717:20
marine1nhandler: sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found17:20
nhandlermarine1: What version of ubuntu do you have?17:20
marine1nhandler: 9.0417:20
marine164 bit17:21
nhandlermarine1: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties17:21
marine1nhandler: done17:21
nhandlermarine1: You should now be able to run the add-apt-repository command17:21
marine1nhandler: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa17:22
marine1nhandler: still no go17:22
nhandlermarine1: Did you remove /usr/bin from your path?17:22
marine1nhandler: sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found17:22
marine1nhandler: i don't think that was the normal path /usr/local17:23
nhandlermarine1: Try: /usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozillateam/ppa17:24
phillwsudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa17:24
marine1nhandler: command not found do I need to be sudo/root???17:24
nhandlermarine1: Yeah, you need to run it with sudo since it updates your sources.list file.17:25
nhandlerBut I'm not sure why it can't find the command. I thought it was installed by default17:26
nhandlerAnd installing python-software-properties should have installed it for you as well17:26
marine1nhandler: i installed it thru command line not default this a an alpha4 build17:26
nhandlerYeah, it should have still been installed. Can you do an 'ls /usr/bin' and see if it is in there? Could you also do 'which add-apt-repository' ?17:28
marine1nhandler: sudo and still commnad not found17:28
marine1nhandler: does it need to be in my sources list17:28
nhandlermarine1: You will want it there17:28
marine1nhandler: it was under ubuntuzilla i think17:29
nhandlerubuntuzilla ?17:29
marine1nhandler: firefox17:30
marine1firefox-3.017:30
marine1firefox-3.517:30
marine1firefox-3.617:30
marine1firefox.old17:30
marine1nhandler: the path is /usr/local/firefox/firefox17:31
nhandlermarine1: What is the output of 'echo $PATH' ?17:31
marine1nhandler: i just don't see it in my sources list17:32
marine1nhandler: root@robert-desktop:/home/robert# echo $PATH17:32
marine1/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games17:32
nhandlermarine1: The version you downloaded won't appear in your sources.list. We were trying to add a ppa to that file so that you could install FF-3.7 from the ppa to make your life easier17:33
nhandlerIf you want to simply modify the menu launcher, you can follow the instructions I gave you initially to edit the command being used17:33
marine1nhandler: i tried that 1st and was unsuccessful.17:34
nhandlerWhat was unsuccessful?17:34
marine1nhandler: right clocking and adding to a laucher17:34
marine1nhandler: clicking on appications(right-click)17:34
paultag_pleia2: poke17:35
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marine1nhandler: edit menu17:35
marine1nhandler: the commnad will be fireox %U i don't think that is correct17:36
nhandlermarine1: You want to include the full path to firefox 3.7. Where is it downloaded to?17:36
marine1nhandler: ok the full path is /usr/local/firefox/firefox17:37
nhandlerSo then put /usr/local/firefox/firefox %U as the command17:37
meindian523problem solved17:38
meindian523there was this Fn+key on the laptop keyboard which set it right, dunno how though17:39
meindian523for the logs, it's Fn+F7 on the T43 laptop which I have17:39
marine1nhandler: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.3a4pre) Gecko/20100326 Minefield/3.7a4pre17:40
marine1nhandler: how do i keep up on all updates17:41
marine1nhandler: Index of /pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk this is where i got the file from17:44
nhandlermarine1: That is why I was trying to have you add the mozilla team's daily build ppa17:51
marine1nhandler: is there another way???17:52
canthus13use the daily build ppa.17:52
nhandlerI have to go install some sinks, maybe someone else could help you figure out what is wrong with your system17:53
marine1canthus13: adding it is the problem17:53
marine1nhandler: alright thanks17:53
canthus13marine1: Should just be able to add it to your software sources.17:54
marine1canthus13: do you know where the site is??17:55
canthus13should be on launchpad. one sec.17:55
canthus13https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa17:56
canthus13just add ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa to your software sources.17:57
canthus13Actually. if you're in karmic, from the commandline type  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa17:58
marine1canthus13: tried that doesn't work commnad not found let me work it out thru launchpad17:59
marine1i'm running 9.0417:59
canthus13Ah. Jaunty is different.17:59
marine1canthus13: it works for 9.10 the next set of instructions is for pre 9.1018:00
canthus13Click technical details about this PPA, and then add the sources to your sources list.18:00
canthus13Then select Jaunty from the dropdown.18:00
marine1canthus13: ok doing it18:01
levone_Ubuntucan someone help me setup GCC as a cross compiler for windows? can't find target options in docs18:01
canthus13levone_Ubuntu: I know nothing about that... Have you tried #gcc?18:01
levone_Ubuntucanthus13, no i haven't, thanks.18:02
canthus13no prob.18:02
marine1canthus13: ok copied them in there18:04
canthus13marine1: Once you run updates, you should get the latest build.18:05
marine1canthus13: do i need to add the signing key18:06
canthus13marine1: It's nice to have, so that you don't end up with a warning every time you update.18:07
marine1canthus13:  alright I'll do that because it issued a warning already saying it failed to fetch all the files. When i looked at the latest d/l it doesn't recognize the firefox edition18:11
canthus13Hmm.18:13
canthus13When you added the PPA to your sources, you changed it to Jaunty, right?18:13
marine1canthus13: i just added the key let me see now18:16
marine1canthus13: Failed to detect distribution18:17
marine1canthus13: i'll get back to you later wife is screaming now18:18
canthus13'k.18:18
marine1canthus13: thanks18:18
switchgirlthis is ot i know... has anyone used eharmony? i told it i was a gay woman looking for a gay woman and it suggests men..... 0.o i are hurted18:22
canthus13switchgirl: eharmony was only grudgingly forced into adding same-sex relationships via court order.  I'd try match.com or somewhere else that's not run by devout conservative christians.18:23
switchgirlyeah, i shall but umm i added my payment details :( so now they has my card stuffs and also they apparently charge you even though you cancel18:24
switchgirlso say wikipedia18:25
canthus13:(18:25
* switchgirl dislikes those particuler people for that18:26
* switchgirl also dislikes match.com as it has javascript:void;(0)18:28
switchgirl:(18:28
* canthus13 dislikes the courts for forcing the issue on eharmony. It ends up giving glbtp folks a bad experience.18:29
* switchgirl agrees with canthus1318:35
switchgirlmeh i haz the power of Ubuntu so who cares18:36
switchgirllol18:36
switchgirlagain with the offtopic but just curious as no one speaking canthus13 you ever had a hair dresser ask you to stand to have your hair cut?18:38
canthus13No, but I'm taller than the woman who cuts my hair. :)18:40
canthus13But I suppose that it might work better for long hair....18:41
switchgirlmy hair dressing student (its £5 as apposed to £50) is 4'5 and i'm 5'5 she asked me to stand... 0.o good look there18:43
switchgirllol18:43
* canthus13 would imagine long hair doesn't hang the same over the back of a chair.18:44
geirhasudo shutdown -h +25 "Going down for earth hour" # ;)19:05
paultaghowdy mdetrick19:31
mdetrickyo yo yo, i see you19:31
steelsteveok, question here20:02
steelsteveI use an ipod, but recently it hasn't been able to be accesed by my compueter20:03
steelsteveI don't use itunes (now) but I used rythembox20:03
steelsteveit seems I have run out of 'activations' for my ipod, is there a way around it?20:04
ZachK_Hello all20:43
OpenSSHHey Anybody there?20:46
OpenSSHQuick Question regarding the Terminal?20:47
geirhaShoot20:50
OpenSSHI open the terminal, and you know how you usually it shows the user $ and then you can start typing?20:51
OpenSSHuser $ -20:51
OpenSSHWhen I open the terminal now, it shows nothing20:51
OpenSSHNo user $ -20:52
OpenSSHJust a blank screen?20:52
geirhaNo text at all?20:52
OpenSSHNo text at all, nothing shows up20:52
geirhaHm. Odd.20:52
OpenSSHWhat happened to the terminal?20:52
OpenSSHYeah.20:52
OpenSSHThis was on MAC OSX by the way too20:53
geirhaYou get the same on both OSX and Ubuntu? Or just Mac OSX?20:53
OpenSSHOn Mac OSX20:53
OpenSSHIt opened up the first time fine20:54
OpenSSHI opened up a second terminal with everything blank20:54
geirhaI'm afraid I'm unable to help you on OSX :/20:54
OpenSSH_That's OK, do you know what Channel I can go to for Mac OSX troubleshooting?20:56
OpenSSH_A Channel for Mac OSX troubleshooting?20:57
hcs7dapcompiledkernel: can you give me a hand with a virtualbox issue?20:59
OpenSSH_Does anybody know of a Mac OSX troubleshooting IRC Channel?21:01
hcs7dapcan anyone help me with virtualbox?21:02
hcs7dapcan anyone help me with virtualbox?21:06
HellowOpenSSH_: You might get some help in ##mac21:07
OpenSSH_+Hello Thank You21:19
Cogito1729Hi, I'm having trouble booting into a successful instal of xubuntu 9.10 on my ps3.21:51
brysonI am having a problem with synergy (ubuntu karmic server, windows 7 client). Client is laggy. Found a solution online (run synergys as root) but that didn't help. Any suggestions?21:52
* switchgirl wonders how to use the java6 plugin in lucid for firefox when it wont install21:52
switchgirl:(21:52
ZachK_Cogito1729: No idea how to do that.... switchgirl lucid is buggy and bryson I'll look it up21:53
brysonthanks21:54
pedro3005hi21:54
Cogito1729Thanks, Zachk.21:54
Cogito1729There has to be a lot of people that have figured out how to boot ext4 fs on the ps3.21:55
ZachK_Cogito1729: Im sure... Try https:// help.ubuntu.com21:56
Cogito1729Zachk -- I did. Instructions say to use petitboot loader... but when I switch loaders I can't navigate to the kernel.21:57
ZachK_Cogito1729: Hmmm21:57
Cogito1729Zachk -- is there a way to verify the installation was successful without first booting into the kernel?21:58
ZachK_Cogito1729: Not sure....21:59
Cogito1729Pedro3005 - btw, thanks for your help last time... I managed to install after your help.22:03
pedro3005Cogito1729, really? glad I could help22:03
Cogito1729pedro3005 - yeah, thanks. :)22:03
ZachK_Cogito1729: Sorry but I don't have experience with what you're tryin ta do....22:03
Cogito1729Zachk - no problem, I'll keep hunting online.22:04
ZachK_Cogito1729: My speciality is Wiki/Documentation.... :)22:04
Cogito1729Zachk: Ha, nice! Well, it seems there's a step missing in the documentation I'm following!22:05
Cogito1729Zachk -- if I'm able to confirm that, I'll let you know.22:06
ZachK_Cogito1729: Ok22:07
Cogito1729Is it possible to reinstall xubuntu 9.10 and set the file system to ext3 somehow?22:29
Cogito1729(instead of the default ext4?)22:30
pedro3005Cogito1729, yes22:31
Cogito1729Pedro3005 - won't cause any problems? I'm looking for instructions for this. I've never deviated from the default installation.22:32
pedro3005Cogito1729, no, probably won't cause any issues22:33
pedro3005when formatting just take out ext4 and put ext322:33
diablo_help22:34
pedro3005diablo_, yes?22:35
diablo_i just installed a turtlebeach riviera in order to produce 5.1 sound and cant get any sound from the spdif22:35
Cogito1729Pedro3005: You mean when formatting or when partitioning? I choose ext3 during the installation process, right?22:35
pedro3005Cogito1729, yes22:35
Cogito1729Pedro3005 -- okay, I'll give it a shot. Thanks.22:36
Cogito1729pedro3005: Do you know if should the bootable flag on the ext3 journaling file system be set to on or off?22:55
pedro3005Cogito1729, on, I think22:55

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