[00:00] <marine1> hello all can I get some help in upgrading to firefox 3.6.2
[00:01] <marine1> I'm currently running 3.5.8 in shiretoko(minefield)
[00:02] <phillw> hi marine1
[00:03] <marine1> phillw: what's up
[00:03] <phillw> I'll just go get the instructions for you
[00:03] <marine1> phillw: i tried looking at  the ubuntuzilla way of upgrading  but it did not work
[00:04] <marine1> phillw: http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/133401/
[00:05] <phillw> I had the ubuntu firefox guru tell me how to do it, I'll just log on & get the details, be a couple of minutes.
[00:07] <marine1> phillw: sounds great!! Firefox guru?? they also just released 3.7 alpha build
[00:07] <phillw> lovinglinux, he's a star & a really nice person to boot ... So, hold your breath, this sounds scary, but works :-)
[00:07] <marine1> phillw: i stand corrected it's the 3.7 alpha 4 version
[00:09] <marine1> phillw: O.K. sounds good :P
[00:11] <phillw> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193567&highlight=OverrideGPUValidation&page=41  What you'll be doing is using synaptics to completely remove all occurances of ffox. (it does not remove you history / bookmarks) Then tell synaptics to get firefox. As i was on the daily etc for shiretoko, you may also want to check that you have the correct repository set up.
[00:12] <phillw> marine1: , heck, he's good :-D
[00:15] <marine1> phillw: i copied the link and don't see any instructions on his comments
[00:16] <phillw> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193567&page=41 try that link
[00:18] <bodhi_zazen> marine1: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/installing+Firefox+on+Linux
[00:18] <bodhi_zazen> download the linux tar ball
[00:18] <bodhi_zazen> sudo tar xvf firefox* -C /usr/local
[00:18] <bodhi_zazen> launch with
[00:18] <bodhi_zazen>  /usr/local/firefox/firefox
[00:18] <bodhi_zazen> update your menu and luancher
[00:19] <lukjad86> bodhi_zazen Will it import the old firefox 3.5 bookmarks etc?
[00:19] <bodhi_zazen> yes
[00:20] <bodhi_zazen> all that stuff is in ~/.mozilla
[00:20] <bodhi_zazen> If you add a ppa, use the icecat ppa
[00:20] <bodhi_zazen> http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/icecat-64-bit-how-to-compile/
[00:20] <bodhi_zazen> icecat is a nice cat
[00:20] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: where is the tar ball located it's not on that page
[00:20] <bodhi_zazen> + GNU privacy extension
[00:20] <lukjad86> bodhi_zazen Because there is a firefox 3.5 folder and a firefox folder, and I've heard that there is difficulty sometimes
[00:21] <bodhi_zazen> Been using this method for some time on both Ubutnu and Fedora, no problems
[00:21] <bodhi_zazen> marine1: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/personal.html?from=getfirefox
[00:21] <bodhi_zazen> http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-3.6.2&os=linux&lang=en-US
[00:22] <bodhi_zazen> second link from the top on the Left
[00:22] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: LOL which link the first or the second
[00:23] <bodhi_zazen> either
[00:23] <bodhi_zazen> the second is direct
[00:23] <bodhi_zazen> Oh, guess you need to use the first, lol
[00:23] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: o.k. done
[00:24] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: should i be root at this time and I will follow your directions
[00:24] <lukjad86> bodhi_zazen I take it that 64 bit production lags a bit behind 32
[00:24] <bodhi_zazen> nope, do not need to be root
[00:24] <bodhi_zazen> lukjad86: not in the ppa
[00:24] <bodhi_zazen> if you are on fedora you need to compile
[00:25] <lukjad86> ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/3.6.2/  <-- I don't see the 386
[00:25] <bodhi_zazen> marine1: you need to open a terminal and cd ~/Download or cd ~/Desktop, wherever you saved the firefox tar ball
[00:25] <bodhi_zazen> lukjad86: https://launchpad.net/~gnuzilla-team/+archive/ppa
[00:26] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: ok it's on the desktop and i got this message :tar: firefox*: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[00:26] <marine1> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[00:26] <bodhi_zazen> they have had problems posting the 3.6.2 icecat on the gnu ftp server, not sure why
[00:26]  * lukjad86 hugs bodhi_zazen 
[00:26] <bodhi_zazen> the source is on the ppa
[00:27] <bodhi_zazen> icecat_3.6.2.orig.tar.gz
[00:27] <bodhi_zazen> https://launchpad.net/~gnuzilla-team/+archive/ppa/+files/icecat_3.6.2.orig.tar.gz
[00:27] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: robert@robert-desktop:~$ sudo tar xvf firefox* -C /usr/local
[00:27] <marine1> [sudo] password for robert:
[00:27] <marine1> tar: firefox*: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[00:27] <marine1> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[00:27] <bodhi_zazen> marine1: cd Desktop
[00:27] <bodhi_zazen> then tar away, lol
[00:29] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: done
[00:29] <bodhi_zazen> marine1: now, as a user run
[00:29] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: is this next
[00:29] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: /usr/local/firefox/firefox
[00:29] <bodhi_zazen>  /usr/local/firefox/firefox
[00:29] <bodhi_zazen> yep
[00:29] <bodhi_zazen> and update your launcher and menu
[00:29] <bodhi_zazen> you can do that with
[00:30] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: do I cd out of desktop??
[00:30] <bodhi_zazen> sudo unlink /bin/firefox
[00:30] <bodhi_zazen> sudo ln -s /usr/local/firefox/firefox /bin/firefox
[00:30] <bodhi_zazen> do not need to marine1
[00:30] <bodhi_zazen> you can run the firefox command from anywhere if you specify the full path
[00:31] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: robert@robert-desktop:~/Desktop$ /usr/local/firefox/firefox
[00:31] <marine1> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module": /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[00:31] <bodhi_zazen> marine1: you running 64 bit ?
[00:31] <bodhi_zazen> lol
[00:32] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: my distro is 64 bit
[00:33] <bodhi_zazen> What distro ?
[00:33] <bodhi_zazen> you can either :
[00:33] <marine1> bodhi_zazen:  wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[00:33] <bodhi_zazen> marine1: that is because mozilla does not distribute 64 bit versions
[00:33] <bodhi_zazen> you will need to do this
[00:33] <bodhi_zazen> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/
[00:34] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: Are you referring to my disto or firefox version?? Ubuntu 9>04
[00:34] <bodhi_zazen> delete the current tar ball from your desktop
[00:34] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: move to trahs
[00:34] <bodhi_zazen> marine1:  do this then :
[00:34] <marine1> trash
[00:34] <bodhi_zazen> no, don't do that yet ...
[00:35] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: LOl
[00:35] <bodhi_zazen> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[00:35] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: O.K. it's till on my desktop should I use a command line function to remove it
[00:35] <bodhi_zazen> when that is done, run firefox again
[00:36] <bodhi_zazen> Oh, you can delete the firefox tar ball, it is done with
[00:36] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: ia32-libs is already the newest version.
[00:36]  * ZachK_ cheers bodhi_zazen on
[00:37] <bodhi_zazen> marine1:
[00:37] <bodhi_zazen> cd /usr/local/firefox
[00:37] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: yeah go ahead
[00:37] <bodhi_zazen> then
[00:37] <bodhi_zazen> ./firefox
[00:38] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module": /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[00:38] <bodhi_zazen> OK
[00:38] <bodhi_zazen> want to try ff 3.7 Alpha4 ?
[00:38] <bodhi_zazen> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/
[00:38] <bodhi_zazen> you will see, there is a 64 bit version
[00:38] <bodhi_zazen> Or you can add a ppa
[00:39] <bodhi_zazen> If you go the nightly build, get the 64 bit version
[00:39] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: is that the problem?
[00:39] <bodhi_zazen> rm -rf /usr/local/firefox
[00:39] <bodhi_zazen> No, In fact it works better, lol
[00:40] <bodhi_zazen> you will have a problem with some extensions
[00:40] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: rm: cannot remove `/usr/local/firefox/update.locale': Permission denied
[00:40] <bodhi_zazen> sudo rm -rf /usr/local/firefox
[00:40] <bodhi_zazen> DL the 64 bit tar ball to your desktop
[00:40] <bodhi_zazen> then
[00:40] <bodhi_zazen> sudo tar xvf firefox* -C /usr/local
[00:40] <bodhi_zazen> and run it
[00:40] <bodhi_zazen>  /usr/local/firefox/firefox
[00:40] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: from the link you sent right
[00:41] <bodhi_zazen> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/firefox-3.7a4pre.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
[00:41] <bodhi_zazen> but that is a bz2 , so ...
[00:42] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: that's correct
[00:42] <bodhi_zazen> tar jxvf firefox* -C /usr/local
[00:42] <bodhi_zazen> sudo tar jxvf firefox* -C /usr/local
[00:43] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: should i cd back into the desktop
[00:43] <bodhi_zazen> you do not have to ...
[00:43] <bodhi_zazen> sudo tar jxvf Desktop/firefox* -C /usr/local
[00:43] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: ok i'm here right now:robert@robert-desktop:/usr/local/firefox$
[00:44] <bodhi_zazen> ok
[00:44] <bodhi_zazen> sudo tar jxvf ~robert/Desktop/firefox* -C /usr/local
[00:44] <bodhi_zazen> or
[00:44] <bodhi_zazen>  cd ~/Desktop
[00:44] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: sudo: cannot get working directory
[00:44] <bodhi_zazen> then tar
[00:45] <bodhi_zazen> dammed security =)
[00:46] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: Done
[00:46] <bodhi_zazen> ok, as a user
[00:46] <bodhi_zazen>  /usr/local/firefox/firefox
[00:47] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: yes not root
[00:47] <bodhi_zazen> do you recall the way to update your links
[00:47] <bodhi_zazen> nope, no firefox as root for u
[00:47] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: log in as root
[00:47] <bodhi_zazen> LOL
[00:48] <bodhi_zazen> How do you like minefield marine1 ?
[00:48] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: kick ass
[00:48] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: you are the man
[00:49] <bodhi_zazen> It will tell you there are updates available often, but I only update when they go from alpha x to alpha X + 1
[00:50] <bodhi_zazen> you can update your menus or your links
[00:50] <bodhi_zazen> sudo unlink /bin/firefox
[00:50] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: ok i closed all open firefox and when i relaunched it it says 3.5.8
[00:50] <bodhi_zazen> sudo ln -s /usr/local/firefox/firefox /bin/firefox
[00:51] <bodhi_zazen> you need to update your links or your menus , or the old ff will open
[00:51] <bodhi_zazen> or make a custom launcher
[00:54] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: how do i update my bookmarks from the older version
[00:54] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: can i export them from the older version to my desktop
[00:56] <bodhi_zazen> You should not need to marine1
[00:56] <marine1> bodhi_zazen:  i did it already because not all of my bookmarks were saved
[00:56] <bodhi_zazen> When you run minefield it should use your old bookmarks, extensions, etc
[00:57] <bodhi_zazen> do you have some but not all of your bookmaks ?
[00:57] <bodhi_zazen> I am asking as I have not had that problem.
[00:59] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: I had most of the them
[00:59] <bodhi_zazen> odd
[00:59] <bodhi_zazen> you could *try* export / import, but back up before you import
[01:00] <bodhi_zazen> If at some point you prefer a ppa, there are several
[01:00] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: i did that already it's saved to my dektop just having trouble launching it
[01:00] <bodhi_zazen> icecat is the GNU version of firefox , it works well, and is 64 bit
[01:00] <bodhi_zazen> https://launchpad.net/~gnuzilla-team/+archive/ppa
[01:00] <bodhi_zazen> Export -> to desktop
[01:01] <bodhi_zazen> close, re-open
[01:01] <bodhi_zazen> Import <-- from Desktop ?
[01:01] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: when i right clcked on applications to edit menus the app isn't there
[01:01] <Dill> Im having a problem with my GRUB bootloader and one of my laptops
[01:01] <Dill> does anyone think they can help me?
[01:02] <bodhi_zazen> marine1: try the link commands I gave
[01:02] <bodhi_zazen> or make a launcher for minefield
[01:03] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: where is the links command??
[01:04] <bodhi_zazen> sudo unlink /bin/firefox
[01:04] <bodhi_zazen> sudo ln -s /usr/local/firefox/firefox /bin/firefox
[01:04] <marine1> bodhi_zazen:  is this it:sudo ln -s /usr/local/firefox/firefox /bin/firefox
[01:05] <bodhi_zazen> two commands, lol
[01:05] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: unlink: cannot unlink `/bin/firefox': No such file or directory
[01:05] <bodhi_zazen> OK
[01:05] <bodhi_zazen> just the ln command then
[01:06] <bodhi_zazen> you can also
[01:06] <bodhi_zazen> locate firefox
[01:06] <bodhi_zazen> just to make sure it is in /bin/firefox and eslewhere, lol
[01:07] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: to many areas to list
[01:08] <bodhi_zazen> which firefox
[01:08] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: /usr/lib/firefox
[01:08] <marine1> /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.18
[01:08] <marine1> /usr/lib/firefox-3.5.8
[01:08] <marine1> /usr/lib/firefox-3.6
[01:09] <marine1> bodhi_zazen: it doesn't list 3.7
[01:09] <bodhi_zazen> ln -s should work then, bot tons of ff versions, lol
[01:09] <bodhi_zazen> gotta run ...
[01:13] <marine1> phillw: thanks for the help before
[01:15] <drew212> anyone want to help me fix up my wine to work with lotro?
[01:23] <DarkwingDuck> drew212: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=4891 <-- click on version and it should have instructions
[01:24] <drew212> my wine is kinda broken
[01:25] <DarkwingDuck> what you mean?
[01:25] <drew212> i cant install dotnets and whatnot with winetricks
[01:25] <drew212> my winetricks failed to install back when i was trying to get other games working and it wont install them
[01:26] <DarkwingDuck> winetricks?
[01:26] <drew212> yeah, winetricks it installs certain software and dll's for you
[01:26] <DarkwingDuck> wow, i just build the newest from www.winehq.org and use that.
[01:27] <drew212> yeah, but how do you install the required dll's?
[01:27] <DarkwingDuck> what dlls are you trying to install?
[01:28] <drew212> well you have to have net framework 1.1 for lotro to work
[01:28] <drew212> and it cant install in wine, it throws an error every time
[01:28] <DarkwingDuck> hmm...
[01:28] <drew212> i have the latest wine version
[01:30] <DarkwingDuck> you built wine from souce... Ive never had a problem doing it from there. Interesting
[01:30] <drew212> you are running windows games in wine without the net framework?
[01:31] <DarkwingDuck> drew212: http://wiki.winehq.org/MicrosoftDotNet
[01:31] <drew212> so you do use winetricks
[01:32] <drew212> lol...
[01:32] <drew212> i got to go mang, wife is calling
[01:32] <DarkwingDuck> never. I dont use wine that often
[02:53] <drew212> anyone able to help me with playing lotro in wine?
[03:09] <phillw> hi drew212
[03:10] <phillw> drew212: what version of lotro are you using ?
[03:36] <drew212> phillw: i just downloaded the trial version
[03:38] <phillw> hi drew
[03:38] <drew212> hi phillw
[03:39] <drew212> i tried to get america's army and steam working on ubuntu and it didnt work for me so i gave up, and now im trying to get lotro to work and it doesnt work either...
[03:39] <drew212> every time i try to install the net frame work stuff it fails
[03:39] <phillw> sorry, i went off doing something else, are you refering to lord of the rings under Wine ?
[03:39] <drew212> yes
[03:40] <phillw> okies, give me a couple of minutes.
[03:40] <drew212> i got the dotnet11 and 20 working with winetricks under windows 2000 but when i start the installer lotro still wants to install the 1.1 net framework
[03:42] <phillw> seems an old game ?
[03:42] <drew212> kindof
[03:44] <phillw> which volume ? shadows of Angmar, Stencil Shadows, The Battle for Middle Earth... etc
[03:45] <drew212> im not sure... its the trial version =P
[03:46] <drew212> i get tons of errors when i try to install stuff to get it working, i think something happened with my wine install
[03:49] <phillw> okay, well some of the lotro stuff is rated 'gold' which means it runs pretty okay. for you wine installation, are you using the default ubuntu one, or the beta version ?
[03:51] <drew212> uhh
[03:51] <phillw> the beta is the one that keeps getting recommended on the forums. Anyways, the forum area is --> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=313
[03:51] <drew212> 1.1.41
[03:52] <phillw> you'reon the beta version, which is good :-)
[03:53] <phillw> winehq is over at http://www.winehq.org/  the ubuntu forum is usually quite active & they're always happy to see new blood ;-)
[03:54] <drew212> yeah...
[03:55] <drew212> its just really frustrating on forums because it can take days or weeks to solve a problem
[03:57] <phillw> the ubuntu one is pretty good. I don't use wine, but people I refer over to it speak highly of it. Do take the time to read the stickys, then use the search function on the forum to look up lotro / lord of the rings; that way you will get threads of others who have discussed it.
[03:57] <drew212> yeah...
[04:03] <phillw> drew212: this thread has been going on a long time --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=386480
[04:03] <phillw> started back in 2007, still going a cple of weeks ago
[04:05] <phillw> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1309341&highlight=lotro has a quick solution for 9.10
[04:05] <phillw> you'll have to have a dig round on that area
[04:06] <phillw> drew212: I hope that helps
[04:06] <drew212> the problem is i don't know where to start... anything i try to do in wine fails
[04:07] <drew212> well just about
[04:08] <phillw> make sure you have it installed correctly --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=885111
[04:08] <drew212> i used synaptic
[04:10] <phillw> you may want to do it this way, then --> http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[04:10] <drew212> i've been working on this too long today, i need a break =X
[04:10] <drew212> that is synaptic
[04:11] <seidos> I've had pretty good luck with wine, but I haven't tried getting anything very robust running with it
[04:11] <seidos> drew212, maybe you should start smaller
[04:11] <phillw> whilst you should be wary of adding ppas' that ppa should be okay
[04:11] <drew212> i got WoW running back in the day =P
[04:12] <phillw> seidos: thanks, i have never run wine, so any help you can give is much appreciated :-)
[04:16] <seidos> phillw, hope I helped
[04:17] <seidos> drew212, you used to run WoW in wine?  that's pretty impressive when you think about it
[04:17] <drew212> lol
[04:17] <drew212> yeah
[04:17] <drew212> i just copied over my install from windows and it worked flawlessly
[04:17] <seidos> ah, yeah that's usually the problem.  getting the software installed
[04:18] <drew212> yeah, i cant get lotro to install
[04:18] <seidos> the install on windows of wow didn't need access to the registry or anything like that
[04:18] <drew212> no, i carry an install of wow on my flash drive and run it on school computers *evilgrin*
[04:19] <seidos> if only you could tell the installer that c: is / or something
[04:19] <seidos> how big is an install of WoW?
[04:19] <drew212> few gigs?
[04:19] <seidos> you must have a pretty big flash drive
[04:19] <drew212> 8gb flash drives are cheap
[04:20] <drew212> you can get them for like $12-20
[04:20] <seidos> that is pretty cheap
[04:20]  * seidos wonders when flash memory will replace cd's and dvd's
[04:21] <seidos> flash drives would have to get down to like ten cents for that to happen I bet
[10:45] <leoquant> goeden morgen dezen morgen
[11:23] <st4aluck> I have problem with the power on my laptop. When I start it on battery it freezes. Can somebody help me!!!
[11:29] <lukjad86> st4aluck Is this only on ubuntu?
[11:30] <st4aluck> lukjad86: it in 9.10 and 10.04 gnom and kde
[11:30] <lukjad86> Hm
[11:30] <lukjad86> Did this happen on the live CD?
[11:30] <lukjad86> Or were you running it off the power cord?
[11:30] <st4aluck> lukjad86: on 8.04 no probs
[11:31] <lukjad86> st4aluck Is this an Asus X50V?
[11:31] <st4aluck> no it's toshiba A205
[11:31] <lukjad86> Hm...
[11:32] <st4aluck> when I pull the cable no problems. But when I try to start it on battery only it freezes
[11:33] <lukjad86> Yes... I see a few random bugs like this. Let me see if I can find some detailed instructions
[11:34] <st4aluck> 10x
[11:34] <lukjad86> Does it say something like loading hardware drivers then freeze?
[11:36] <st4aluck> lukjad86: http://paste.ubuntu.com/402343/
[11:37] <st4aluck> even somethimes can'tload the grub
[11:38] <st4aluck> lukjad86: it's only on battery
[11:39] <lukjad86> Someone fixed this by changing the option "boot post" in their bios to "thorough".
[11:40] <lukjad86> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=622220
[11:41] <lukjad86> st4aluck When it freezes does it produce lines on the screen?
[11:42] <st4aluck> lukjad86: no
[11:42] <lukjad86> jm
[11:42] <lukjad86> st4aluck Do you have a forum thread yet?
[11:42] <st4aluck> lukjad86: not yet
[11:43] <lukjad86> st4aluck I'd post it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=332
[11:43] <st4aluck> let me try the one you gave me
[11:43] <lukjad86> st4aluck Okay, if that doesn't work, mentioned you tried that :)
[11:43] <lukjad86> st4aluck Make sure to put the name of your laptop model and the versions you tried :)
[11:47] <st4aluck> lukjad86: as i thought it may be something with the bios
[11:48] <lukjad86> st4aluck Yes, it may be.
[11:49] <lukjad86> st4aluck If you need any more help, feel free to return or post in the forums :)
[12:35]  * stancho is away: гледа "Адмиралът"
[13:34] <st4aluck> lukjad86: nothing, even when I unplug the cable it freezes
[13:42] <lukjad86> st4aluck Hi
[13:42] <lukjad86> st4aluck Well, try posting on the forums in the hardware and laptop section, there may be more help there
[13:42] <st4aluck> lukjad86: nothing, even when I unplug the cable it freezes
[13:42] <lukjad86> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=622220
[13:43] <lukjad86> st4aluck It sounds like a drivers problem
[13:44] <st4aluck> lukjad86: what shall I do then
[13:46] <st4aluck> lukjad86: http://paste.ubuntu.com/402401/
[13:48] <jdeloach> Could someone help me stop programs from maximizing in both my monitors? ( ATI & Open source drivers )
[13:55] <lukjad86> st4aluck I don't own a laptop, so I'm not too sure. The hardware and laptop sub-forum should be able to have a few more ideas
[14:42]  * stancho is back (gone 02:06:25)
[14:56] <nhandler> stancho: Can you please disable that away script?
[14:56] <stancho> it is no script
[14:57] <stancho> I manuali go in Away
[14:57] <nhandler> stancho: Yes, but it was a script that did: 09:42:04  * stancho is back (gone 02:06:25)
[14:58] <stancho> ок I look for this
[14:58] <stancho> and turn off
[15:10] <nhandler> Anyone have a solution to this issue other than the one presented: http://xkcd.com/196/
[15:13] <geirha> system -> preferences -> screensaver ?
[15:16] <DarkwingDuck> :D
[15:20] <geirha> and possibly  xset -dpms
[15:32] <nhandler> geirha: Ah, I knew I was forgetting something simple. /me tries to remember if a black screensaver was always on by default
[15:33] <canthus13> nhandler: I think there's a program called caffeine that was written to solve that.
[15:34] <soulrider> hey there
[15:34] <soulrider> long time no see nhandler :)
[15:34] <nhandler> Hello soulrider
[15:36] <soulrider> whats up? havnt been around for a while
[15:36] <canthus13> nhandler: http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/08/caffeine-03-is-out-with-major.html
[15:36] <st4aluck> I have problem with my laptop toshiba A205 when i pull off the cable it freezes, need help!!!!!!
[15:36] <nigelb> st4aluck, pull of what cable?
[15:36] <nhandler> canthus13: Ah cool. I just disabled the screensaver. I'm too lazy and forgetful to remember to click that
[15:37] <st4aluck> nhandler: the power
[15:37] <soulrider> st4aluck, tou cant run it on battery?
[15:37] <st4aluck> it is suposed to turn on battery and continue working
[15:37] <st4aluck> nhandler: Yes that's right
[15:38] <soulrider> first time ive heard that one
[15:38] <soulrider> what kernel version are you running?
[15:38] <soulrider> i'm sorry, but i have to go =/ have you posted on the forums?
[15:39] <st4aluck> I was on 9.10 till today and because this problem I tryed 10.04 but still the same
[15:39] <soulrider> Try posting on ubuntuforums.org post as much information as you can and they will be able to help you
[15:39] <soulrider> i will be back later.
[15:39] <st4aluck> slick666: Which exact forum!?!?
[15:40] <nigelb> !forum | st4aluck
[15:40] <Votebot> st4aluck: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[15:40] <nigelb> st4aluck, are you using the original cable?
[15:41] <st4aluck> nigelb: I was on 8.04 and it was working, the cable is the orig.
[15:41] <nigelb> !o4o > nigelb
[15:42] <nigelb> st4aluck, In that case, I do not know what is causing your problem.  Please post your problem with as much detail in the forum
[15:43] <st4aluck> nigelb: I 'd like first to ask around and then I'll post it
[15:43] <st4aluck> nigelb: it may be a bios problem
[15:43] <nigelb> st4aluck, sure :) The forums you have a chance for a delayed response and possibly something from another toshiba owner
[15:44] <st4aluck> I wonder wher exactly to ask in the forums
[15:46] <canthus13> st4aluck: Hardware & Laptops
[15:47] <nigelb> thanks canthus13, forums are really not my thing :)
[15:48] <st4aluck> canthus13: 10x
[15:55] <canthus13> nigelb: Mine either. But I used them regularly when I had a troublesome hp laptop.
[15:55] <canthus13> st4aluck: no prob.
[16:28] <nhandler> Hmm...I'm having a strange issue on lucid (not sure if synergy is related to it or not yet). I can only click on certain buttons and only give certain text fields and other form elements the focus
[16:34] <canthus13> nhandler: In firefox?
[16:38] <nhandler> canthus13: In general. For instance, if I open gedit, I can't type. If I hit 'F', the file menu opens, but I can't type, and I can't manually click on 'File'
[16:39] <marine1> phillw: you there
[16:40] <marine1> hello all need help changing permission on a file
[16:40] <marine1> log in as root and still says permission denied
[16:42] <nhandler> marine1: What file?
[16:42] <marine1> nhandler: root@robert-desktop:/home/robert# /home/robert/Videos/Movies/2012
[16:42] <marine1> bash: /home/robert/Videos/Movies/2012: Permission denied
[16:43] <nhandler> marine1: Can you do an 'ls -l' of that folder?
[16:43] <marine1> nhandler: for some reason a movile file i have has mysteriously locked itself???
[16:44] <marine1> nhandler: proper commnad is ls -l /home/robert/Videos/movies/2012
[16:45] <nhandler> Or just run ls -l after you cd into that folder
[16:45] <nhandler> And is 2012 a file or folder?
[16:46] <marine1> nhandler: a file within a folder:drwxr-xr-x 2 robert robert 4096 2010-03-13 00:11 Movies
[16:47] <marine1> nhandler: drwxr-xr-x 2 robert robert 4096 2010-03-13 00:11 Movies
[16:47] <nhandler> So if you cd /home/robert/Videos/Movies and then run ls -l, what do you get ?
[16:47] <marine1> nhandler: it list everything in the folder in purple
[16:48] <nhandler> What are the permissions on 2012 ?
[16:49] <marine1> it said root before
[16:49] <marine1> nhandler: when i ran the ls -l command it only listed the folder itself not what is contained inside of it
[16:49] <nhandler> marine1: Did you cd /home/robert/Videos/Movies first ?
[16:50] <marine1> nhandler: here it goes:-rw------- 1 root   root   1603922432 2010-03-13 00:13 2012
[16:52] <nhandler> marine1: sudo chmod 644 2010
[16:52] <nhandler> err: sudo chmod 644 2012
[16:52] <marine1> nhandler: i don't know why it would change a file
[16:52] <nhandler> Why what would?
[16:53] <marine1> the file itself it went from a avi file to a file that is white with a lock on it
[16:54] <nhandler> marine1: The colors mean very little to other people since themes change them. But if I had to guess, running as root probably caused root to be the owner of the file. That is why you will want to use sudo instead of logging in as root
[16:55] <marine1> nhandler: i just checked it i can play the video but the file itself still contains a lock on the upper right hand corner
[16:56] <marine1> nhandler: all of the other file says the owner is me(robert) and that one still says root
[16:56] <nhandler> marine1: Try chown robert:robert 2012
[16:58] <marine1> nhandler: o.k. that worked
[16:58] <marine1> nhandler: file is changed
[16:59] <marine1> nhandler: strange occurance though never had I changed root permission for that file
[16:59] <meindian523> Anyone know how to reconfigure Xorg in the lucid beta?
[16:59] <meindian523> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core just return me to the prompt
[17:00] <marine1> nhandler: thank you
[17:01] <meindian523> I tried with and without -phigh
[17:01] <meindian523> and there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[17:01] <meindian523> :(
[17:02] <meindian523> or alternatively to change the screen resolution
[17:02] <meindian523> via CLI
[17:03] <nigelb> meindian523, before you reconfigure X you have to kill it
[17:04] <meindian523> nigelb, yeah, IIRC, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace was disabled since Jaunty
[17:05] <nigelb> yeah, you can reenable it though
[17:05] <meindian523> nigelb, thru CLI?
[17:05] <nigelb> lemme check
[17:05] <nhandler> marine1: You are welcome. And to avoid this in the future, use sudo, not root
[17:06] <nigelb> meindian523, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=690760
[17:07] <meindian523> nigelb, I've done that shebang
[17:07] <meindian523> killing gdm, trying to reconfigure xorg and starting gdm
[17:07] <nigelb> meindian523, in that case, I know no more :(
[17:07] <meindian523> no joy
[17:07] <meindian523> As mentioned in that thread, it's for Gutsy and older
[17:07] <meindian523> I asked for Lucid
[17:12] <marine1> nhandler: that is what i was telling you these are normal files i don't have to go into the command line to look at them or watch
[17:12] <meindian523> anyone else?
[17:14] <marine1> nhandler: how do I chamnged the link so that I can open up the latest firefox 3.7 aplha 4 i successfully d/l it but can't seem to set the launcher or link to it
[17:15] <marine1> nhandler: the link is bin/firefox which is in my usr/local foder
[17:16] <marine1> nhandler: the command to open it is /usr/local/firefox/firerfox but my terminal stays open with it and when I close  my terminal it closes firefox as well
[17:17] <nhandler> marine1: If you want to run 3.7, why not take the easy road and use the ppa ?
[17:17] <marine1> nhandler: can't seem to change it so that it opens up when i click on the minefield globe
[17:18] <nhandler> marine1: If you right click on 'Applications' you can his 'edit menu' and then edit the command that is run
[17:18] <nhandler> But using the ppa will make your life easier
[17:19] <marine1> nhandler: that was the 1st thing I tried
[17:19] <marine1> nhandler: how do I use the ppa
[17:19] <nhandler> marine1: Open up a terminal
[17:19] <nhandler> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
[17:19] <marine1> nhandler: done
[17:19] <nhandler> sudo apt-get update
[17:20] <nhandler> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.7
[17:20] <marine1> nhandler: sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found
[17:20] <nhandler> marine1: What version of ubuntu do you have?
[17:20] <marine1> nhandler: 9.04
[17:21] <marine1> 64 bit
[17:21] <nhandler> marine1: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
[17:21] <marine1> nhandler: done
[17:21] <nhandler> marine1: You should now be able to run the add-apt-repository command
[17:22] <marine1> nhandler: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
[17:22] <marine1> nhandler: still no go
[17:22] <nhandler> marine1: Did you remove /usr/bin from your path?
[17:22] <marine1> nhandler: sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found
[17:23] <marine1> nhandler: i don't think that was the normal path /usr/local
[17:24] <nhandler> marine1: Try: /usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozillateam/ppa
[17:24] <phillw> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
[17:24] <marine1> nhandler: command not found do I need to be sudo/root???
[17:25] <nhandler> marine1: Yeah, you need to run it with sudo since it updates your sources.list file.
[17:26] <nhandler> But I'm not sure why it can't find the command. I thought it was installed by default
[17:26] <nhandler> And installing python-software-properties should have installed it for you as well
[17:26] <marine1> nhandler: i installed it thru command line not default this a an alpha4 build
[17:28] <nhandler> Yeah, it should have still been installed. Can you do an 'ls /usr/bin' and see if it is in there? Could you also do 'which add-apt-repository' ?
[17:28] <marine1> nhandler: sudo and still commnad not found
[17:28] <marine1> nhandler: does it need to be in my sources list
[17:28] <nhandler> marine1: You will want it there
[17:29] <marine1> nhandler: it was under ubuntuzilla i think
[17:29] <nhandler> ubuntuzilla ?
[17:30] <marine1> nhandler: firefox
[17:30] <marine1> firefox-3.0
[17:30] <marine1> firefox-3.5
[17:30] <marine1> firefox-3.6
[17:30] <marine1> firefox.old
[17:31] <marine1> nhandler: the path is /usr/local/firefox/firefox
[17:31] <nhandler> marine1: What is the output of 'echo $PATH' ?
[17:32] <marine1> nhandler: i just don't see it in my sources list
[17:32] <marine1> nhandler: root@robert-desktop:/home/robert# echo $PATH
[17:32] <marine1> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[17:33] <nhandler> marine1: The version you downloaded won't appear in your sources.list. We were trying to add a ppa to that file so that you could install FF-3.7 from the ppa to make your life easier
[17:33] <nhandler> If you want to simply modify the menu launcher, you can follow the instructions I gave you initially to edit the command being used
[17:34] <marine1> nhandler: i tried that 1st and was unsuccessful.
[17:34] <nhandler> What was unsuccessful?
[17:34] <marine1> nhandler: right clocking and adding to a laucher
[17:34] <marine1> nhandler: clicking on appications(right-click)
[17:35] <paultag_> pleia2: poke
[17:35] <marine1> nhandler: edit menu
[17:36] <marine1> nhandler: the commnad will be fireox %U i don't think that is correct
[17:36] <nhandler> marine1: You want to include the full path to firefox 3.7. Where is it downloaded to?
[17:37] <marine1> nhandler: ok the full path is /usr/local/firefox/firefox
[17:37] <nhandler> So then put /usr/local/firefox/firefox %U as the command
[17:38] <meindian523> problem solved
[17:39] <meindian523> there was this Fn+key on the laptop keyboard which set it right, dunno how though
[17:39] <meindian523> for the logs, it's Fn+F7 on the T43 laptop which I have
[17:40] <marine1> nhandler: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.3a4pre) Gecko/20100326 Minefield/3.7a4pre
[17:41] <marine1> nhandler: how do i keep up on all updates
[17:44] <marine1> nhandler: Index of /pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk this is where i got the file from
[17:51] <nhandler> marine1: That is why I was trying to have you add the mozilla team's daily build ppa
[17:52] <marine1> nhandler: is there another way???
[17:52] <canthus13> use the daily build ppa.
[17:53] <nhandler> I have to go install some sinks, maybe someone else could help you figure out what is wrong with your system
[17:53] <marine1> canthus13: adding it is the problem
[17:53] <marine1> nhandler: alright thanks
[17:54] <canthus13> marine1: Should just be able to add it to your software sources.
[17:55] <marine1> canthus13: do you know where the site is??
[17:55] <canthus13> should be on launchpad. one sec.
[17:56] <canthus13> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[17:57] <canthus13> just add ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa to your software sources.
[17:58] <canthus13> Actually. if you're in karmic, from the commandline type  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
[17:59] <marine1> canthus13: tried that doesn't work commnad not found let me work it out thru launchpad
[17:59] <marine1> i'm running 9.04
[17:59] <canthus13> Ah. Jaunty is different.
[18:00] <marine1> canthus13: it works for 9.10 the next set of instructions is for pre 9.10
[18:00] <canthus13> Click technical details about this PPA, and then add the sources to your sources list.
[18:00] <canthus13> Then select Jaunty from the dropdown.
[18:01] <marine1> canthus13: ok doing it
[18:01] <levone_Ubuntu> can someone help me setup GCC as a cross compiler for windows? can't find target options in docs
[18:01] <canthus13> levone_Ubuntu: I know nothing about that... Have you tried #gcc?
[18:02] <levone_Ubuntu> canthus13, no i haven't, thanks.
[18:02] <canthus13> no prob.
[18:04] <marine1> canthus13: ok copied them in there
[18:05] <canthus13> marine1: Once you run updates, you should get the latest build.
[18:06] <marine1> canthus13: do i need to add the signing key
[18:07] <canthus13> marine1: It's nice to have, so that you don't end up with a warning every time you update.
[18:11] <marine1> canthus13:  alright I'll do that because it issued a warning already saying it failed to fetch all the files. When i looked at the latest d/l it doesn't recognize the firefox edition
[18:13] <canthus13> Hmm.
[18:13] <canthus13> When you added the PPA to your sources, you changed it to Jaunty, right?
[18:16] <marine1> canthus13: i just added the key let me see now
[18:17] <marine1> canthus13: Failed to detect distribution
[18:18] <marine1> canthus13: i'll get back to you later wife is screaming now
[18:18] <canthus13> 'k.
[18:18] <marine1> canthus13: thanks
[18:22] <switchgirl> this is ot i know... has anyone used eharmony? i told it i was a gay woman looking for a gay woman and it suggests men..... 0.o i are hurted
[18:23] <canthus13> switchgirl: eharmony was only grudgingly forced into adding same-sex relationships via court order.  I'd try match.com or somewhere else that's not run by devout conservative christians.
[18:24] <switchgirl> yeah, i shall but umm i added my payment details :( so now they has my card stuffs and also they apparently charge you even though you cancel
[18:25] <switchgirl> so say wikipedia
[18:25] <canthus13> :(
[18:26]  * switchgirl dislikes those particuler people for that
[18:28]  * switchgirl also dislikes match.com as it has javascript:void;(0)
[18:28] <switchgirl> :(
[18:29]  * canthus13 dislikes the courts for forcing the issue on eharmony.  It ends up giving glbtp folks a bad experience.
[18:35]  * switchgirl agrees with canthus13
[18:36] <switchgirl> meh i haz the power of Ubuntu so who cares
[18:36] <switchgirl> lol
[18:38] <switchgirl> again with the offtopic but just curious as no one speaking canthus13 you ever had a hair dresser ask you to stand to have your hair cut?
[18:40] <canthus13> No, but I'm taller than the woman who cuts my hair. :)
[18:41] <canthus13> But I suppose that it might work better for long hair....
[18:43] <switchgirl> my hair dressing student (its £5 as apposed to £50) is 4'5 and i'm 5'5 she asked me to stand... 0.o good look there
[18:43] <switchgirl> lol
[18:44]  * canthus13 would imagine long hair doesn't hang the same over the back of a chair.
[19:05] <geirha> sudo shutdown -h +25 "Going down for earth hour" # ;)
[19:31] <paultag> howdy mdetrick
[19:31] <mdetrick> yo yo yo, i see you
[20:02] <steelsteve> ok, question here
[20:03] <steelsteve> I use an ipod, but recently it hasn't been able to be accesed by my compueter
[20:03] <steelsteve> I don't use itunes (now) but I used rythembox
[20:04] <steelsteve> it seems I have run out of 'activations' for my ipod, is there a way around it?
[20:43] <ZachK_> Hello all
[20:46] <OpenSSH> Hey Anybody there?
[20:47] <OpenSSH> Quick Question regarding the Terminal?
[20:50] <geirha> Shoot
[20:51] <OpenSSH> I open the terminal, and you know how you usually it shows the user $ and then you can start typing?
[20:51] <OpenSSH> user $ -
[20:51] <OpenSSH> When I open the terminal now, it shows nothing
[20:52] <OpenSSH> No user $ -
[20:52] <OpenSSH> Just a blank screen?
[20:52] <geirha> No text at all?
[20:52] <OpenSSH> No text at all, nothing shows up
[20:52] <geirha> Hm. Odd.
[20:52] <OpenSSH> What happened to the terminal?
[20:52] <OpenSSH> Yeah.
[20:53] <OpenSSH> This was on MAC OSX by the way too
[20:53] <geirha> You get the same on both OSX and Ubuntu? Or just Mac OSX?
[20:53] <OpenSSH> On Mac OSX
[20:54] <OpenSSH> It opened up the first time fine
[20:54] <OpenSSH> I opened up a second terminal with everything blank
[20:54] <geirha> I'm afraid I'm unable to help you on OSX :/
[20:56] <OpenSSH_> That's OK, do you know what Channel I can go to for Mac OSX troubleshooting?
[20:57] <OpenSSH_> A Channel for Mac OSX troubleshooting?
[20:59] <hcs7dap> compiledkernel: can you give me a hand with a virtualbox issue?
[21:01] <OpenSSH_> Does anybody know of a Mac OSX troubleshooting IRC Channel?
[21:02] <hcs7dap> can anyone help me with virtualbox?
[21:06] <hcs7dap> can anyone help me with virtualbox?
[21:07] <Hellow> OpenSSH_: You might get some help in ##mac
[21:19] <OpenSSH_> +Hello Thank You
[21:51] <Cogito1729> Hi, I'm having trouble booting into a successful instal of xubuntu 9.10 on my ps3.
[21:52] <bryson> I am having a problem with synergy (ubuntu karmic server, windows 7 client). Client is laggy. Found a solution online (run synergys as root) but that didn't help. Any suggestions?
[21:52]  * switchgirl wonders how to use the java6 plugin in lucid for firefox when it wont install
[21:52] <switchgirl> :(
[21:53] <ZachK_> Cogito1729: No idea how to do that.... switchgirl lucid is buggy and bryson I'll look it up
[21:54] <bryson> thanks
[21:54] <pedro3005> hi
[21:54] <Cogito1729> Thanks, Zachk.
[21:55] <Cogito1729> There has to be a lot of people that have figured out how to boot ext4 fs on the ps3.
[21:56] <ZachK_> Cogito1729: Im sure... Try https:// help.ubuntu.com
[21:57] <Cogito1729> Zachk -- I did. Instructions say to use petitboot loader... but when I switch loaders I can't navigate to the kernel.
[21:57] <ZachK_> Cogito1729: Hmmm
[21:58] <Cogito1729> Zachk -- is there a way to verify the installation was successful without first booting into the kernel?
[21:59] <ZachK_> Cogito1729: Not sure....
[22:03] <Cogito1729> Pedro3005 - btw, thanks for your help last time... I managed to install after your help.
[22:03] <pedro3005> Cogito1729, really? glad I could help
[22:03] <Cogito1729> pedro3005 - yeah, thanks. :)
[22:03] <ZachK_> Cogito1729: Sorry but I don't have experience with what you're tryin ta do....
[22:04] <Cogito1729> Zachk - no problem, I'll keep hunting online.
[22:04] <ZachK_> Cogito1729: My speciality is Wiki/Documentation.... :)
[22:05] <Cogito1729> Zachk: Ha, nice! Well, it seems there's a step missing in the documentation I'm following!
[22:06] <Cogito1729> Zachk -- if I'm able to confirm that, I'll let you know.
[22:07] <ZachK_> Cogito1729: Ok
[22:29] <Cogito1729> Is it possible to reinstall xubuntu 9.10 and set the file system to ext3 somehow?
[22:30] <Cogito1729> (instead of the default ext4?)
[22:31] <pedro3005> Cogito1729, yes
[22:32] <Cogito1729> Pedro3005 - won't cause any problems? I'm looking for instructions for this. I've never deviated from the default installation.
[22:33] <pedro3005> Cogito1729, no, probably won't cause any issues
[22:33] <pedro3005> when formatting just take out ext4 and put ext3
[22:34] <diablo_> help
[22:35] <pedro3005> diablo_, yes?
[22:35] <diablo_> i just installed a turtlebeach riviera in order to produce 5.1 sound and cant get any sound from the spdif
[22:35] <Cogito1729> Pedro3005: You mean when formatting or when partitioning? I choose ext3 during the installation process, right?
[22:35] <pedro3005> Cogito1729, yes
[22:36] <Cogito1729> Pedro3005 -- okay, I'll give it a shot. Thanks.
[22:55] <Cogito1729> pedro3005: Do you know if should the bootable flag on the ext3 journaling file system be set to on or off?
[22:55] <pedro3005> Cogito1729, on, I think