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MTecknologyIf a bug is in 10.04 only but could likely hit a large number of users, does that qualify it for at least a medium status?00:29
jjesseanyone have a problem with yesterday's live cd during the isntall never prompted for username and password00:30
MTecknologyI'm trying to do everything I can to make sure bug 548970 is taken care of before release. I know more and more people are strating to use drupal, but I don't know if the issue is drupal only. I think it may be an issue in the suhosin patch/app for php00:30
ubot4`Launchpad bug 548970 in php5 (Ubuntu) "[lucid] php5-cgi crashes when attempting to load page (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54897000:30
yofeljjesse: lucid?00:31
jjesseyofel: yes lucid00:33
yofeljjesse: ask in #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-testing, they should know more00:33
jjesseok thanks00:39
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dholbachHAPPY UBUNTU GLOBAL JAM TO EVERYONE! :-)11:20
aigariusheh, we have a 'bug' report from a new user in a Jam here that it is very hard to find the link to 'create new bug' on launchpad.net12:14
yofelaigarius: you're supposed to use ubuntu-bug12:15
aigariusyofel: which is kinda problematic if the bug is at the installation stage before that works12:16
yofelaigarius: please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs12:16
yofeldoes anyone know if there's a master bug for reports about update-manager asking for reboot while it's still updating?12:35
aigariusyofel: could we have the link to that ReportingBugs guide added to bugs.launchpad.net front page? newbies get confused easily12:43
yofelaigarius: you should get sent there if you want to report a bug from the LP page, also you can't report an ubuntu bug from bugs.lp.net, you need to be on bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu12:44
Mezwhat's the package that displays the volume control ?12:45
yofelMez: in lucid it should be part of indicator-applet afaik12:45
MezIs it? or is that just the interface?12:46
yofelgood question...12:48
kklimondaMez: indicator-sound12:48
kklimondain lucid12:48
kklimondaI think it's a gnome-volume-control-applet in Karmic12:49
AlexZionhi everyone, I just update my experimental desk , from kubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 beta 1 and everything went fine , except for the panel ....so when I restart my system , it was without panel ...., I already fix it , but it was just to let you know. ..13:53
AlexZionshould I fill up some bug reports !? or is just fine to let you know here !?!13:53
AlexZionactually , I don't really know in which package or config file the problem is ....13:59
Mezhttp://autoview.autotrain.org/mod/autoview/view.php?id=33 <-- Global Jam Birmingham13:59
Mezwell, half of it.14:00
BUGabundobRoas14:15
BUGabundoisc-dhcp-client broken in karmic?16:06
BUGabundooh right16:07
BUGabundoNM ppa16:07
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kklimondaBUGabundo: you and karmic?16:11
BUGabundodads laptop16:11
kklimondaah16:11
BUGabundogreat, now I got broken DHClient :(16:12
BUGabundowow16:16
BUGabundokarmic stable? NO... logging out, gives a black screen and kernel unresponsive16:16
MezBUGabundo: did you remove network manager?16:27
BUGabundojust downgraded to archive version, Mez. rebooting16:28
BUGabundodhcp is back16:29
BUGabundoI don't know how asac allowed DHCP and NM ppa to be broken for so long16:30
MezBUGabundo: apparnetly removing NM in Lucid really breaks your system16:30
BUGabundoI didnt remove16:31
BUGabundoI downgraded16:31
bcurtiswx_laptopwho here uses their @ubuntu.com email address with evolution and can tell me how to set it up to send mail from that account17:00
BUGabundobcurtiswx_laptop: you have to use your own SMPT17:02
BUGabundoand if you use SPF , add an include for canonical smtp17:02
bcurtiswx_laptopBUGabundo: would I be able to use GMails?17:02
BUGabundoyes17:02
BUGabundoI use it17:02
bcurtiswx_laptopBUGabundo:  k thx17:03
BUGabundonp17:03
BUGabundobcurtiswx_laptop: brand new to @ubuntu email?17:03
bcurtiswx_laptopno no, just haven't set it up with evolution17:03
BUGabundoI though you were member for a while17:03
bcurtiswx_laptopim finding a liking towards evolution again17:03
bcurtiswx_laptopyes i've been a member for a while17:04
nigelbbcurtiswx_laptop, after switching to thunderbird, I realized how geekfriendly evolution is17:07
bcurtiswx_laptoplol17:07
bcurtiswx_laptophggdh: ping17:07
bcurtiswx_laptophggdh: can I set evolution to reply using the e-mail address it was sent to, like gmail has?17:10
hggdhbcurtiswx_laptop: yes17:11
hggdh(I used it for the Ubuntu forward)17:11
hggdhwell17:12
danage1is it a known bug in lucid that nautilus won't display smb and sftp locations? "The specified location is not supported"17:18
BUGabundodanage1: AFAIK you are the 5th asking17:20
danage1sorry about that, i didn't find a corresponding bug though17:20
bcurtiswx_laptopdanage1: i get that problem after a little while.. but it works at first17:20
danage1*report17:20
bcurtiswx_laptopif you use it early on in your desktop session17:20
bcurtiswx_laptophmm evolution --> File --> Close Window.... quits the program17:22
danage1BUGabundo: is it safe to assume somebody is on it despite the lack of a bug report?17:23
smif1984Hi, I just joined the bugsquad, i need some help for how to start triaging bugs. Can some one point me in the right direction?17:23
BUGabundodanage1: feel free to open a new one17:23
BUGabundoif it is a dupe, someone will mark it as such17:24
bcurtiswx_laptopsmif1984: bugsquad-mentorship17:24
danage1opening bug reports without apport appears to be rather difficult these days...17:24
BUGabundodanage1: ahaha true17:25
danage1:)17:26
BUGabundobut that's the idea17:26
BUGabundoto provide GOOD bugs17:26
jeanfi<danage1> is it a known bug in lucid that nautilus won't display smb and sftp locations? "The specified location is not supported"17:58
jeanfiI had exactly this issue17:58
jeanfiI fix it by installing the missing package17:59
jeanfithe missing package was gvfs-backends18:00
chrisccoulsonjeanfi - that's not a bug. the gvfs-backends package is recommended and on the default install18:14
chrisccoulsonif it was missing on your system, then it probably got removed in an upgrade during some transitional period18:15
jeanfichrisccoulson, yes, that's way I have written 'issue' and not 'bug' :-)18:40
jeanfiway=why18:40
jo-erlendSome of the most visible applications in lucid are not translatable with launchpad. I'm at the Norwegian UGJ now, and we'd like to translate the indicator-applet, for instance. Can someone have a look at this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-applet/+bug/54975818:41
ubot4`Launchpad bug 549758 in indicator-applet "No translations on launchpad (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]18:41
txwikingerHi folks18:52
txwikingeranything we can look at in our jam here in Canada?18:52
* yofel looks at launchpad... sees 41619 unconfirmed bugs18:53
ddecatoryofel: don't remind us...18:54
yofelddecator: hrhr18:54
txwikingerwell. I thought some more specific direction :D18:55
yofeltxwikinger: how about new bugs tagged with lucid?18:55
txwikingeryeah.. good idea18:55
yofelNew,Undecided with Lucid tag gives 2212 results...18:57
* yofel sighs...18:57
BUGabundomew19:03
yofelBUGabundo: you cat hijacked your keyboard?19:03
yofel*your19:03
BUGabundonope19:04
BUGabundothe sheer number of bugs, did19:04
yofelheh19:04
oem_I'm finding by 10.04 beta freezing when screensaver starts. Anyone else notice this?19:48
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BUGabundooem_: UPGRADE19:50
BUGabundothat's an old bug19:50
BUGabundoI think its fixed19:50
oem_thanks   also language translator does not seem to be translating either it is giving web page output or something    have a good day19:51
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kklimondaI need some help21:11
kklimondahow to tell the person who has reopened bug 524179 that I respect his opinion but the bug status is not going to be changed unless DX team change guidelines?21:12
ubot4`Launchpad bug 524179 in transmission (Ubuntu) "Left-clicking on taskbar icon for transmission brings up the right-click menu (affects: 2)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52417921:12
kklimondahe has also reopened bug 52587521:13
ubot4`Launchpad bug 525875 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Rhythmbox notification icon click hide/show (affects: 2)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52587521:13
jcastrokklimonda: looking21:13
vishkklimonda: both are disabled accounts , so not sure you can contact them :)21:15
kklimondavish: hmm?21:16
vishkklimonda: unless you are talking about ttp ?21:16
jcastrokklimonda: I can post if you'd like21:16
vishkklimonda: i meant , the original reporters accounts are disabled21:16
bcurtiswx_laptopcan someone verify a bug for me.  use evolution to send an e-mail with attachment(s) and I'm getting a double sent e-mail21:17
kklimondajcastro: if you could. I can't think of a polite response that is going to end the discussion and move it to the ayatana mailing list :)21:19
jcastroyeah21:19
jcastroHe can blame me instead of you21:19
kklimondajcastro: at least it will be clear that the bug is not being close by one person21:20
kklimondaclosed*21:20
kklimondabcurtiswx_laptop: I can't reproduce it on lucid21:21
bcurtiswx_laptopkklimonda: what protocol are you using?21:21
bcurtiswx_laptopIMAP? POP?21:21
kklimondaimap21:22
kklimondabut mails are being sent by smtp anyway (?)21:22
BUGabundoimap or imaps?21:23
kklimondahmm.. imap over tls21:23
hggdhso imaps21:25
bcurtiswx_laptopSMTP ?21:27
jcastrokklimonda: if you run into those kinds of bugs feel free to have me close them.21:28
jcastrokklimonda: I can take responsibility for that, heh21:28
BUGabundoseems jcastro has a large back to hold the responsibility21:29
BUGabundoas former community  leason21:29
jcastroI'm helping drive the app indicator work so I can take the heat for it21:29
jcastroheh21:29
kklimondajcastro: I can close random bugs but I'd rather not close them myself again if I was the one who closed them orignally - When people are getting angry it's easy to start throwing accusations of single developers not doing the right thing imo.21:30
kklimondajcastro: hehe :)21:30
jcastroyeah just poke me when that happens, off for now though, packing up after a good jam!21:30
kklimondajcastro: you have forgotten about bug 524179 :)21:31
ubot4`Launchpad bug 524179 in transmission (Ubuntu) "Left-clicking on taskbar icon for transmission brings up the right-click menu (affects: 2)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52417921:31
vishjcastro: kklimonda: also commented on the wiki > ;)   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators?action=diff&rev1=29&rev2=3021:32
kklimondavish: I think this change can be safely reverted :)21:33
kklimondaI guess that's a good sign - one can't create good desktop os without alienating some users..21:34
chrisccoulsonwho is this ttp character that keeps going round reopening bugs?21:46
kklimondachrisccoulson: has he reopened even more?21:47
kklimondachrisccoulson: let me guess - all that are related to the appindicator stuff? :)21:47
chrisccoulsonwell, i saw the transmission one, but he reopened 2 gnome-applets ones as soon as i closed them21:47
chrisccoulsonhe opened 2 against gnome-applets because of the missing mixer-applet (which hasn't existed since jaunty), and the missing keyboard indicator applet (which was deprecated this cycle)21:48
kklimondachrisccoulson: I don't really know who he is but he's not happy with changes for sure..21:49
kklimondaand here we go again :/22:03
BUGabundoGO GO GOOOOO22:09
chrisccoulsonkklimonda, i've solved the problem now ;)22:10
chrisccoulsoni just reassigned the bug so i won't get any more of his mail22:10
kklimondachrisccoulson: smart :D22:11
kklimondachrisccoulson: and who's going to be the lucky recipient now? :)22:11
BUGabundonull ?22:12
BUGabundolol22:12
chrisccoulsonkklimonda, anyone who's subscribed to all ubuntu bugs22:12
chrisccoulsonbut people subscribing to all bugs are crazy anyway22:12
BUGabundoor don't read email22:13
BUGabundoI was , once , long long ago22:13
BUGabundolasted 2 weeks22:13
BUGabundostill am on some packages/teams22:13
BUGabundolike gwibber, or ubuntu-desktop-bugs22:13
BUGabundoerr22:14
BUGabundoubuntu-desktop-team22:14
chrisccoulsoni'm subscribed to quite a few desktop packages, and thats enough for me22:14
chrisccoulsoni already spend enough time reading bug mail ;)22:14
BUGabundoyou read your bug mail? :D22:15
BUGabundoahah22:15
BUGabundoI do... but I've stop reading most MLs22:15
chrisccoulsonwell, i have to read it ;)22:15
kklimondachrisccoulson: you did it even before you joined canonical though ;)22:16
chrisccoulsoni did!22:16
kklimondachrisccoulson: when you have some time can you add your comment to the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KrzysztofKlimonda/TransmissionPPUApplication ?22:17
chrisccoulsonoh yes, i was going to ask you when you were going to apply!22:17
chrisccoulsoni will add my endorsement tomorrow :)22:18
ducky_netbookhey just wondering about this triage bug that got assigned to nobody should something happen to this?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/xsplash/+bug/43618922:39
ubot4`Launchpad bug 436189 in baltix (and 1 other project) "Xsplash looks very ugly at some resolutions (affects: 2)" [Undecided,New]22:39
chrisccoulsonducky_netbook, xsplash is deceased now, so it's unlikely that anybody will ever work on that ;)22:41
ducky_netbookok so it goes to invalid thanks22:42
hggdher. ducky_netbook, if the bug is for a supported release, it should be kept open -- even if nobody is going to work on it22:42
ducky_netbookthen perhaps move to wont fix?22:44
ducky_netbookits still listed as new ans triaged22:45
hggdhno. Only the maintainers should do it. It's a valid bug; I agree that wishlist pretty much settle the future for it, but still22:45
hggdhducky_netbook: it is triaged in Ubuntu, new for Baltix. Blatix is not Ubuntu22:45
ducky_netbookkk22:46
hggdhthis is something we have to be careful on: we deal with Ubuntu bugs only22:46
hggdhkeep in mind that LP is used by a series of other projects22:47
louferdThis bug seems to have been solved with lucid beta on my ibook: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pbbuttonsd/+bug/35992 Should I change it to fix-committed or in-progress?23:02
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slick666Hey all, I'm looking at this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/262550 which has 3/4 packages fixed-released but the intrepid package is marked new should we mark intrepid as invalid?23:18
ubot4`Launchpad bug 262550 in linux (Ubuntu Intrepid) (and 3 other projects) "WARNING: Intrepid might burn down MacBook Pro (affects: 8) (dups: 3)" [High,New]23:18
hggdhslick666: well, Intrepid is still supported (one more month)23:30
ducky_netbookdoes the alpha for each have the same support?23:32
hggdhducky_netbook: I do not understand your question23:33
ducky_netbookif the bug is not an official release for the alpha for it does it carry the same support?23:34
hggdhstill complex ;-) but I understand you are asking is "if a bug is for an alpha version of a package/release, does it carry the same support?"23:35
hggdhand the answer is yes23:35
ducky_netbookok23:35
ducky_netbookthanks23:35
hggdhwelcome23:35
[LAG]REX_hi everyone!!!23:36
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ZEROADRENALINEwe are in argentina!!23:37
ZEROADRENALINEtrying to learn how to resolv bugs.23:37
ZEROADRENALINE*resolve23:37
hggdhZEROADRENALINE: bienvenidos, and thanks for helping!23:39
hggdhZEROADRENALINE: please feel free to ask questions here23:39
ZEROADRENALINEfirst off all what tools are the basic kit to resolve bugs!!!23:41
hggdh1. willingness to help ;-)23:41
hggdh2. please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs23:41
hggdh3. read the related wiki pages;23:42
hggdh4. get a bug on something you feel comfortable with, and jam on!23:42

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