[00:29] <MTecknology> If a bug is in 10.04 only but could likely hit a large number of users, does that qualify it for at least a medium status?
[00:30] <jjesse> anyone have a problem with yesterday's live cd during the isntall never prompted for username and password
[00:30] <MTecknology> I'm trying to do everything I can to make sure bug 548970 is taken care of before release. I know more and more people are strating to use drupal, but I don't know if the issue is drupal only. I think it may be an issue in the suhosin patch/app for php
[00:30] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 548970 in php5 (Ubuntu) "[lucid] php5-cgi crashes when attempting to load page (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/548970
[00:31] <yofel> jjesse: lucid?
[00:33] <jjesse> yofel: yes lucid
[00:33] <yofel> jjesse: ask in #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-testing, they should know more
[00:39] <jjesse> ok thanks
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[11:20] <dholbach> HAPPY UBUNTU GLOBAL JAM TO EVERYONE! :-)
[12:14] <aigarius> heh, we have a 'bug' report from a new user in a Jam here that it is very hard to find the link to 'create new bug' on launchpad.net
[12:15] <yofel> aigarius: you're supposed to use ubuntu-bug
[12:16] <aigarius> yofel: which is kinda problematic if the bug is at the installation stage before that works
[12:16] <yofel> aigarius: please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[12:35] <yofel> does anyone know if there's a master bug for reports about update-manager asking for reboot while it's still updating?
[12:43] <aigarius> yofel: could we have the link to that ReportingBugs guide added to bugs.launchpad.net front page? newbies get confused easily
[12:44] <yofel> aigarius: you should get sent there if you want to report a bug from the LP page, also you can't report an ubuntu bug from bugs.lp.net, you need to be on bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[12:45] <Mez> what's the package that displays the volume control ?
[12:45] <yofel> Mez: in lucid it should be part of indicator-applet afaik
[12:46] <Mez> Is it? or is that just the interface?
[12:48] <yofel> good question...
[12:48] <kklimonda> Mez: indicator-sound
[12:48] <kklimonda> in lucid
[12:49] <kklimonda> I think it's a gnome-volume-control-applet in Karmic
[13:53] <AlexZion> hi everyone, I just update my experimental desk , from kubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 beta 1 and everything went fine , except for the panel ....so when I restart my system , it was without panel ...., I already fix it , but it was just to let you know. ..
[13:53] <AlexZion> should I fill up some bug reports !? or is just fine to let you know here !?!
[13:59] <AlexZion> actually , I don't really know in which package or config file the problem is ....
[13:59] <Mez> http://autoview.autotrain.org/mod/autoview/view.php?id=33 <-- Global Jam Birmingham
[14:00] <Mez> well, half of it.
[14:15] <BUGabundo> bRoas
[16:06] <BUGabundo> isc-dhcp-client broken in karmic?
[16:07] <BUGabundo> oh right
[16:07] <BUGabundo> NM ppa
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[16:11] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: you and karmic?
[16:11] <BUGabundo> dads laptop
[16:11] <kklimonda> ah
[16:12] <BUGabundo> great, now I got broken DHClient :(
[16:16] <BUGabundo> wow
[16:16] <BUGabundo> karmic stable? NO... logging out, gives a black screen and kernel unresponsive
[16:27] <Mez> BUGabundo: did you remove network manager?
[16:28] <BUGabundo> just downgraded to archive version, Mez. rebooting
[16:29] <BUGabundo> dhcp is back
[16:30] <BUGabundo> I don't know how asac allowed DHCP and NM ppa to be broken for so long
[16:30] <Mez> BUGabundo: apparnetly removing NM in Lucid really breaks your system
[16:31] <BUGabundo> I didnt remove
[16:31] <BUGabundo> I downgraded
[17:00] <bcurtiswx_laptop> who here uses their @ubuntu.com email address with evolution and can tell me how to set it up to send mail from that account
[17:02] <BUGabundo> bcurtiswx_laptop: you have to use your own SMPT
[17:02] <BUGabundo> and if you use SPF , add an include for canonical smtp
[17:02] <bcurtiswx_laptop> BUGabundo: would I be able to use GMails?
[17:02] <BUGabundo> yes
[17:02] <BUGabundo> I use it
[17:03] <bcurtiswx_laptop> BUGabundo:  k thx
[17:03] <BUGabundo> np
[17:03] <BUGabundo> bcurtiswx_laptop: brand new to @ubuntu email?
[17:03] <bcurtiswx_laptop> no no, just haven't set it up with evolution
[17:03] <BUGabundo> I though you were member for a while
[17:03] <bcurtiswx_laptop> im finding a liking towards evolution again
[17:04] <bcurtiswx_laptop> yes i've been a member for a while
[17:07] <nigelb> bcurtiswx_laptop, after switching to thunderbird, I realized how geekfriendly evolution is
[17:07] <bcurtiswx_laptop> lol
[17:07] <bcurtiswx_laptop> hggdh: ping
[17:10] <bcurtiswx_laptop> hggdh: can I set evolution to reply using the e-mail address it was sent to, like gmail has?
[17:11] <hggdh> bcurtiswx_laptop: yes
[17:11] <hggdh> (I used it for the Ubuntu forward)
[17:12] <hggdh> well
[17:18] <danage1> is it a known bug in lucid that nautilus won't display smb and sftp locations? "The specified location is not supported"
[17:20] <BUGabundo> danage1: AFAIK you are the 5th asking
[17:20] <danage1> sorry about that, i didn't find a corresponding bug though
[17:20] <bcurtiswx_laptop> danage1: i get that problem after a little while.. but it works at first
[17:20] <danage1> *report
[17:20] <bcurtiswx_laptop> if you use it early on in your desktop session
[17:22] <bcurtiswx_laptop> hmm evolution --> File --> Close Window.... quits the program
[17:23] <danage1> BUGabundo: is it safe to assume somebody is on it despite the lack of a bug report?
[17:23] <smif1984> Hi, I just joined the bugsquad, i need some help for how to start triaging bugs. Can some one point me in the right direction?
[17:23] <BUGabundo> danage1: feel free to open a new one
[17:24] <BUGabundo> if it is a dupe, someone will mark it as such
[17:24] <bcurtiswx_laptop> smif1984: bugsquad-mentorship
[17:24] <danage1> opening bug reports without apport appears to be rather difficult these days...
[17:25] <BUGabundo> danage1: ahaha true
[17:26] <danage1> :)
[17:26] <BUGabundo> but that's the idea
[17:26] <BUGabundo> to provide GOOD bugs
[17:58] <jeanfi> <danage1> is it a known bug in lucid that nautilus won't display smb and sftp locations? "The specified location is not supported"
[17:58] <jeanfi> I had exactly this issue
[17:59] <jeanfi> I fix it by installing the missing package
[18:00] <jeanfi> the missing package was gvfs-backends
[18:14] <chrisccoulson> jeanfi - that's not a bug. the gvfs-backends package is recommended and on the default install
[18:15] <chrisccoulson> if it was missing on your system, then it probably got removed in an upgrade during some transitional period
[18:40] <jeanfi> chrisccoulson, yes, that's way I have written 'issue' and not 'bug' :-)
[18:40] <jeanfi> way=why
[18:41] <jo-erlend> Some of the most visible applications in lucid are not translatable with launchpad. I'm at the Norwegian UGJ now, and we'd like to translate the indicator-applet, for instance. Can someone have a look at this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-applet/+bug/549758
[18:41] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 549758 in indicator-applet "No translations on launchpad (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[18:52] <txwikinger> Hi folks
[18:52] <txwikinger> anything we can look at in our jam here in Canada?
[18:53]  * yofel looks at launchpad... sees 41619 unconfirmed bugs
[18:54] <ddecator> yofel: don't remind us...
[18:54] <yofel> ddecator: hrhr
[18:55] <txwikinger> well. I thought some more specific direction :D
[18:55] <yofel> txwikinger: how about new bugs tagged with lucid?
[18:55] <txwikinger> yeah.. good idea
[18:57] <yofel> New,Undecided with Lucid tag gives 2212 results...
[18:57]  * yofel sighs...
[19:03] <BUGabundo> mew
[19:03] <yofel> BUGabundo: you cat hijacked your keyboard?
[19:03] <yofel> *your
[19:04] <BUGabundo> nope
[19:04] <BUGabundo> the sheer number of bugs, did
[19:04] <yofel> heh
[19:48] <oem_> I'm finding by 10.04 beta freezing when screensaver starts. Anyone else notice this?
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[19:50] <BUGabundo> oem_: UPGRADE
[19:50] <BUGabundo> that's an old bug
[19:50] <BUGabundo> I think its fixed
[19:51] <oem_> thanks   also language translator does not seem to be translating either it is giving web page output or something    have a good day
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[21:11] <kklimonda> I need some help
[21:12] <kklimonda> how to tell the person who has reopened bug 524179 that I respect his opinion but the bug status is not going to be changed unless DX team change guidelines?
[21:12] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 524179 in transmission (Ubuntu) "Left-clicking on taskbar icon for transmission brings up the right-click menu (affects: 2)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524179
[21:13] <kklimonda> he has also reopened bug 525875
[21:13] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 525875 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Rhythmbox notification icon click hide/show (affects: 2)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/525875
[21:13] <jcastro> kklimonda: looking
[21:15] <vish> kklimonda: both are disabled accounts , so not sure you can contact them :)
[21:16] <kklimonda> vish: hmm?
[21:16] <vish> kklimonda: unless you are talking about ttp ?
[21:16] <jcastro> kklimonda: I can post if you'd like
[21:16] <vish> kklimonda: i meant , the original reporters accounts are disabled
[21:17] <bcurtiswx_laptop> can someone verify a bug for me.  use evolution to send an e-mail with attachment(s) and I'm getting a double sent e-mail
[21:19] <kklimonda> jcastro: if you could. I can't think of a polite response that is going to end the discussion and move it to the ayatana mailing list :)
[21:19] <jcastro> yeah
[21:19] <jcastro> He can blame me instead of you
[21:20] <kklimonda> jcastro: at least it will be clear that the bug is not being close by one person
[21:20] <kklimonda> closed*
[21:21] <kklimonda> bcurtiswx_laptop: I can't reproduce it on lucid
[21:21] <bcurtiswx_laptop> kklimonda: what protocol are you using?
[21:21] <bcurtiswx_laptop> IMAP? POP?
[21:22] <kklimonda> imap
[21:22] <kklimonda> but mails are being sent by smtp anyway (?)
[21:23] <BUGabundo> imap or imaps?
[21:23] <kklimonda> hmm.. imap over tls
[21:25] <hggdh> so imaps
[21:27] <bcurtiswx_laptop> SMTP ?
[21:28] <jcastro> kklimonda: if you run into those kinds of bugs feel free to have me close them.
[21:28] <jcastro> kklimonda: I can take responsibility for that, heh
[21:29] <BUGabundo> seems jcastro has a large back to hold the responsibility
[21:29] <BUGabundo> as former community  leason
[21:29] <jcastro> I'm helping drive the app indicator work so I can take the heat for it
[21:29] <jcastro> heh
[21:30] <kklimonda> jcastro: I can close random bugs but I'd rather not close them myself again if I was the one who closed them orignally - When people are getting angry it's easy to start throwing accusations of single developers not doing the right thing imo.
[21:30] <kklimonda> jcastro: hehe :)
[21:30] <jcastro> yeah just poke me when that happens, off for now though, packing up after a good jam!
[21:31] <kklimonda> jcastro: you have forgotten about bug 524179 :)
[21:31] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 524179 in transmission (Ubuntu) "Left-clicking on taskbar icon for transmission brings up the right-click menu (affects: 2)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524179
[21:32] <vish> jcastro: kklimonda: also commented on the wiki > ;)   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators?action=diff&rev1=29&rev2=30
[21:33] <kklimonda> vish: I think this change can be safely reverted :)
[21:34] <kklimonda> I guess that's a good sign - one can't create good desktop os without alienating some users..
[21:46] <chrisccoulson> who is this ttp character that keeps going round reopening bugs?
[21:47] <kklimonda> chrisccoulson: has he reopened even more?
[21:47] <kklimonda> chrisccoulson: let me guess - all that are related to the appindicator stuff? :)
[21:47] <chrisccoulson> well, i saw the transmission one, but he reopened 2 gnome-applets ones as soon as i closed them
[21:48] <chrisccoulson> he opened 2 against gnome-applets because of the missing mixer-applet (which hasn't existed since jaunty), and the missing keyboard indicator applet (which was deprecated this cycle)
[21:49] <kklimonda> chrisccoulson: I don't really know who he is but he's not happy with changes for sure..
[22:03] <kklimonda> and here we go again :/
[22:09] <BUGabundo> GO GO GOOOOO
[22:10] <chrisccoulson> kklimonda, i've solved the problem now ;)
[22:10] <chrisccoulson> i just reassigned the bug so i won't get any more of his mail
[22:11] <kklimonda> chrisccoulson: smart :D
[22:11] <kklimonda> chrisccoulson: and who's going to be the lucky recipient now? :)
[22:12] <BUGabundo> null ?
[22:12] <BUGabundo> lol
[22:12] <chrisccoulson> kklimonda, anyone who's subscribed to all ubuntu bugs
[22:12] <chrisccoulson> but people subscribing to all bugs are crazy anyway
[22:13] <BUGabundo> or don't read email
[22:13] <BUGabundo> I was , once , long long ago
[22:13] <BUGabundo> lasted 2 weeks
[22:13] <BUGabundo> still am on some packages/teams
[22:13] <BUGabundo> like gwibber, or ubuntu-desktop-bugs
[22:14] <BUGabundo> err
[22:14] <BUGabundo> ubuntu-desktop-team
[22:14] <chrisccoulson> i'm subscribed to quite a few desktop packages, and thats enough for me
[22:14] <chrisccoulson> i already spend enough time reading bug mail ;)
[22:15] <BUGabundo> you read your bug mail? :D
[22:15] <BUGabundo> ahah
[22:15] <BUGabundo> I do... but I've stop reading most MLs
[22:15] <chrisccoulson> well, i have to read it ;)
[22:16] <kklimonda> chrisccoulson: you did it even before you joined canonical though ;)
[22:16] <chrisccoulson> i did!
[22:17] <kklimonda> chrisccoulson: when you have some time can you add your comment to the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KrzysztofKlimonda/TransmissionPPUApplication ?
[22:17] <chrisccoulson> oh yes, i was going to ask you when you were going to apply!
[22:18] <chrisccoulson> i will add my endorsement tomorrow :)
[22:39] <ducky_netbook> hey just wondering about this triage bug that got assigned to nobody should something happen to this?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/xsplash/+bug/436189
[22:39] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 436189 in baltix (and 1 other project) "Xsplash looks very ugly at some resolutions (affects: 2)" [Undecided,New]
[22:41] <chrisccoulson> ducky_netbook, xsplash is deceased now, so it's unlikely that anybody will ever work on that ;)
[22:42] <ducky_netbook> ok so it goes to invalid thanks
[22:42] <hggdh> er. ducky_netbook, if the bug is for a supported release, it should be kept open -- even if nobody is going to work on it
[22:44] <ducky_netbook> then perhaps move to wont fix?
[22:45] <ducky_netbook> its still listed as new ans triaged
[22:45] <hggdh> no. Only the maintainers should do it. It's a valid bug; I agree that wishlist pretty much settle the future for it, but still
[22:45] <hggdh> ducky_netbook: it is triaged in Ubuntu, new for Baltix. Blatix is not Ubuntu
[22:46] <ducky_netbook> kk
[22:46] <hggdh> this is something we have to be careful on: we deal with Ubuntu bugs only
[22:47] <hggdh> keep in mind that LP is used by a series of other projects
[23:02] <louferd> This bug seems to have been solved with lucid beta on my ibook: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pbbuttonsd/+bug/35992 Should I change it to fix-committed or in-progress?
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[23:18] <slick666> Hey all, I'm looking at this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/262550 which has 3/4 packages fixed-released but the intrepid package is marked new should we mark intrepid as invalid?
[23:18] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 262550 in linux (Ubuntu Intrepid) (and 3 other projects) "WARNING: Intrepid might burn down MacBook Pro (affects: 8) (dups: 3)" [High,New]
[23:30] <hggdh> slick666: well, Intrepid is still supported (one more month)
[23:32] <ducky_netbook> does the alpha for each have the same support?
[23:33] <hggdh> ducky_netbook: I do not understand your question
[23:34] <ducky_netbook> if the bug is not an official release for the alpha for it does it carry the same support?
[23:35] <hggdh> still complex ;-) but I understand you are asking is "if a bug is for an alpha version of a package/release, does it carry the same support?"
[23:35] <hggdh> and the answer is yes
[23:35] <ducky_netbook> ok
[23:35] <ducky_netbook> thanks
[23:35] <hggdh> welcome
[23:36] <[LAG]REX_> hi everyone!!!
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[23:37] <ZEROADRENALINE> we are in argentina!!
[23:37] <ZEROADRENALINE> trying to learn how to resolv bugs.
[23:37] <ZEROADRENALINE> *resolve
[23:39] <hggdh> ZEROADRENALINE: bienvenidos, and thanks for helping!
[23:39] <hggdh> ZEROADRENALINE: please feel free to ask questions here
[23:41] <ZEROADRENALINE> first off all what tools are the basic kit to resolve bugs!!!
[23:41] <hggdh> 1. willingness to help ;-)
[23:41] <hggdh> 2. please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
[23:42] <hggdh> 3. read the related wiki pages;
[23:42] <hggdh> 4. get a bug on something you feel comfortable with, and jam on!