[00:01] <godbyk> can you point me at what changes you expected to see and don't?
[00:03] <daker> the new css/styled.css & the new images/header.png
[00:03] <godbyk> the server says it's running the latest revision
[00:03] <daker> what :O
[00:04] <godbyk> does refreshing the page help?
[00:04] <godbyk> the header looks the same in my browser as it does in the repository, as far as I can see.
[00:06] <daker> fu*** cache
[00:06] <godbyk> :)
[00:06] <godbyk> also, depending on when you pushed the changes, the server only updates every half hour (at x:00 and x:30).
[00:07] <godbyk> So when I looked, it had just ticked past the hour mark and may have updated.
[00:07] <daker> oki
[00:08] <godbyk> Do you have it set so the website can detect the browser language and use the appropriate translation?
[00:08] <daker> yes
[00:08] <godbyk> awesome
[00:08] <daker> i have to upload the new pot file for the new strings
[00:09] <godbyk> sure
[00:12] <daker> i have to wait for dutchie
[00:14] <godbyk> how do you generate a pot file from the php pages?
[00:16] <daker> with my hands :)
[00:16] <daker> first i used a php function
[00:16] <humphreybc> hey daker
[00:16] <daker> hi :)
[00:16] <humphreybc> nice work on the site, looks a lot better with left aligned text :)
[00:17] <humphreybc> and i noticed some of the text has already been translated!
[00:17] <daker> we can't update the strings ?
[00:17] <ubuntujenkins> hello humphreybc we have a cd sized live disk with the help of godbyk and Red_HamsterX how ever there isn't enough space for quickshot yet
[00:18] <humphreybc> haha
[00:18] <humphreybc> how big is quickshot?
[00:18] <humphreybc> have you managed to fit all of the language packs on?
[00:19] <humphreybc> daker, really? The spanish one and the czech one has some stuff translated already somehow
[00:19] <ubuntujenkins> 83.7 kb i think we will get it on humphreybc but we could do with some more space if anyone adds a languge all the language packs so far are on there
[00:19] <godbyk> we'll make it fit.
[00:19] <humphreybc> good work team
[00:19] <godbyk> we just have to cull some more packages.
[00:19] <humphreybc> what'd you have to remove to make it fit?
[00:20] <godbyk> the kernel
[00:20] <godbyk> and the boot system.
[00:20] <ubuntujenkins> well you only have a command line now
[00:20] <humphreybc> =|
[00:20] <humphreybc> lol
[00:20] <ubuntujenkins> any thing that said ubuntu
[00:20] <Red_HamsterX> debian/hurd!
[00:20] <humphreybc> oaky
[00:20] <Red_HamsterX> THE FUTURE IS NOW!
[00:20] <godbyk> lol
[00:20] <humphreybc> sounds like an awesome Live CD
[00:20] <godbyk> it boots incredibly fast now, though. ;-)
[00:20] <ubuntujenkins> openoffice.org-core openoffice* pitivi gedit compiz* gnome-utils transmission* gnome-games-common gbrainy openssh-client rsync bzr apport apport-gtk fakeroot gcalctool gnome-screensaver vino nano samba* fakeroot gstreamer* jockey* gparted example-content cups virt-manager qemu-kvm devhelp dhelp gimp-help gnome-help anacron app-install-data apparmor linux-firmware libc6-dev make manpages gcc m4 vinagre file-roller seaho
[00:20] <ubuntujenkins> rse aptitude linux-libc-dev manpages-dev dnsutils ubuntu-sounds hplip-data linux-headers-* is the list so far
[00:20] <humphreybc> you can remove all the audio stuff like pulse and alsa
[00:21] <humphreybc> you removed open office?
[00:21] <humphreybc> don't we have to screenshot that?
[00:21] <ubuntujenkins> nope rhyhambox needs it
[00:21] <ubuntujenkins> nope
[00:21] <humphreybc> ah okay
[00:21] <ubuntujenkins> not this release its a really short section
[00:21] <humphreybc> okay
[00:21] <godbyk> ubuntujenkins: what was the screenshot we wanted to kill?
[00:21] <ubuntujenkins> plus openoffice is huuuuuugggggggeeee
[00:21] <ubuntujenkins> in built help
[00:21] <godbyk> ah, yes.
[00:21] <ubuntujenkins> also humphreybc the screenshots in english are complete
[00:22] <humphreybc> yeah i saw that :D
[00:22] <humphreybc> rockin!
[00:22] <godbyk> ubuntu-docs is 25 MB.
[00:22] <humphreybc> so the live CD still works with all that stuff gone?
[00:22] <humphreybc> can we remove the memory test
[00:22] <godbyk> should work well enough for our needs.
[00:23] <humphreybc> and what happens when there are UI updates?
[00:23] <ubuntujenkins> works in virtual box
[00:23] <ubuntujenkins> I update the image
[00:23] <humphreybc> neat
[00:23] <ubuntujenkins> all scripted
[00:23] <humphreybc> awesome!
[00:23] <daker> humphreybc, so ?
[00:23]  * godbyk is hungry -- waiting for his food to be delivered.
[00:24] <ubuntujenkins> sorry daker sotle your thunder
[00:24] <ubuntujenkins> *stole
[00:24]  * daker is gonna be crasy with the UMP Team
[00:24] <godbyk> heh
[00:25] <godbyk> I think you have to already be crazy to be a member of the UMP team. :)
[00:25] <daker> hhh
[00:31] <humphreybc> sorry, daker what did you want to know?
[00:34] <daker> i have changed all strings with new strings from the mockups
[00:35] <daker> if upload the pot file will the old strings disappear ?
[00:35] <godbyk> probably
[00:36] <daker> humphreybc, check the text
[00:36] <daker> http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/?notyet
[00:37] <daker> http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/?unavailable
[00:38] <godbyk> I would recommend adding some text on those two pages that helps the user find what they're looking for.
[00:38] <godbyk> the notyet page could link to the latest released manual, for instance.
[00:38] <daker> i m not good in english
[00:39] <godbyk> and the unavailable page could suggest the most common pages that people would want (home, download, ..?)
[00:39] <godbyk> daker: you don't have to write it yourself. I'm just tossing out ideas.
[00:39] <godbyk> If no one else it up for it, I'll write some text a bit later for those pages.
[00:40] <humphreybc> yeah that's cool, good idea godbyk
[00:40] <humphreybc> you could have "The requested version of the Ubuntu Manual is not yet released."
[00:40] <humphreybc> then on a new line underneath:
[00:40] <humphreybc> "However, you can see the current editions available for download here."
[00:40] <humphreybc> and the "here" is a hyperlink to the downloads page
[00:40] <godbyk> I would link directly to it.
[00:40] <godbyk> Be specific, not generic.
[00:41] <daker> humphreybc, godbyk http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/?lang=ar
[00:41] <humphreybc> hey  that is cool
[00:41] <godbyk> Say: "The latest version of the manual is <i>Getting Started with Ubuntu 10.04</i>." etc.
[00:41] <godbyk> daker: that is so awesome! great job! :)
[00:42] <humphreybc> that looks wicked
[00:42] <daker> :)
[00:43] <humphreybc> the website is looking fantastic daker
[00:43] <humphreybc> everyone is going to be blown away
[00:43] <godbyk> definitely
[00:43] <humphreybc> no wonder everyone assumes we're "official"
[00:44] <humphreybc> we're doing such an awesome job it'd be hard to believe we're all just volunteers :D
[00:44] <daker> yeah
[00:44] <daker> humphreybc, i need the images for the homepage(slideshow)
[00:45] <humphreybc> godbyk: It's really awesome how ubuntujenkins has gone through and put the english shots in, now we can work on the captions
[00:45] <humphreybc> I think we're *almost* on schedule
[00:45] <ubuntujenkins> please do mine are rubbish
[00:45] <humphreybc> daker: sure, i'll sort that out today :)
[00:45] <godbyk> humphreybc: yeah, I'll add the captions to my to-do list.
[00:45] <humphreybc> daker, what does the slideshow look like?
[00:45] <godbyk> make sure they're up to speed
[00:45] <daker> fade effect
[00:45] <humphreybc> could you chuck in some placeholder images just so I can see it in action, so I know what I need to make?
[00:46] <humphreybc> godbyk: yeah we have 4 days till the writing freeze to make sure there are zero errors in the manual, otherwise I'm 20 euro poorer
[00:46] <godbyk> humphreybc: can I start panicking now?
[00:46] <humphreybc> godbyk: sure
[00:47] <humphreybc> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
[00:47] <godbyk> I have to spend a good part of tomorrow helping a friend move, too. :-/
[00:47] <godbyk> :)
[00:47] <humphreybc> priorities kevin, priorities
[00:47] <humphreybc> :P
[00:47] <Red_HamsterX> Spend the part while your connection's down.
[00:48] <humphreybc> lol
[00:48] <humphreybc> so Red_HamsterX, how stable is quickshot?
[00:48]  * humphreybc really cannot wait to try it out
[00:48] <ubuntujenkins> well i am working on a ppa
[00:48] <godbyk> lol
[00:49]  * ubuntujenkins agrees with dutchie ppas are hard
[00:49] <Red_HamsterX> You can try it now, if you want. It's just not polished and it's lacking real data.
[00:49] <humphreybc> just from the branch?
[00:49] <Red_HamsterX> We've got everything working.
[00:49] <Red_HamsterX> Yeah.
[00:49] <ubuntujenkins> i will send you a package
[00:49] <humphreybc> okay neat
[00:49] <Red_HamsterX> Or that.
[00:49] <humphreybc> amd64?
[00:49] <ubuntujenkins> its and all packages
[00:49] <ubuntujenkins> *package
[00:49] <humphreybc> also, where are we going to host the ISO?
[00:50] <Red_HamsterX> Oh, actually, that's a good point...
[00:50] <ubuntujenkins> well the server but (ubuntu-manual) but we may need another one depending on downloads
[00:50] <Red_HamsterX> Is it amd64?
[00:50] <Red_HamsterX> If so, making it i386 might reduce the filesize.
[00:51] <ubuntujenkins> no the iso is I386
[00:51] <humphreybc> ubuntujenkins: okay you'll have to make sure godbyk has the ISO by wednesday so he can host it
[00:51] <ubuntujenkins> right message recived
[00:52] <ubuntujenkins> Red_HamsterX: does quiclky run work for you we have a merge at some point to day
[00:53] <ubuntujenkins> thats fine my end related just got a new branch
[00:53] <ubuntujenkins> panik over
[00:54] <humphreybc> lol
[00:54] <ubuntujenkins> its 12.54 am here
[00:54] <daker> humphreybc, will be up in 6min as godbyk sad
[00:54] <Red_HamsterX> Panic? What?
[00:54] <humphreybc> daker: awesome, so you added in some temporary pictures to the slideshow
[00:55] <ubuntujenkins> Red_HamsterX: just me getting stressed due to over tiredness
[00:55] <humphreybc> :)
[00:56] <ubuntujenkins> i want this ppa working
[00:57] <humphreybc> will the PPA have the ISO in it, or the package?
[00:58] <ubuntujenkins> package there will be a daily and a release ppa
[00:58] <humphreybc> awesome
[00:58] <ubuntujenkins> so i can put it on my lucid box without needing a whole cd
[00:58] <ubuntujenkins> e-mail sent humphreybc
[00:59] <humphreybc> sweet
[00:59] <humphreybc> here goes!
[01:00] <ubuntujenkins> it appears under aplications >> accsories
[01:00] <humphreybc> yup
[01:00] <humphreybc> you should put a higher resolution icon in the menu :P
[01:01] <ubuntujenkins> you made it :P
[01:01] <humphreybc> lol
[01:01]  * humphreybc is switching user
[01:03] <ubuntujenkins> humphreybc: don't say anything I want to hear it all I need to reboot
[01:04] <godbyk> we need photos of grandmothers and children using our manual. :)
[01:05] <humphreybc> that's wicked!
[01:05] <humphreybc> godbyk: absolutely. anyone have an istock account? :P
[01:06] <godbyk> that's cheating!
[01:06] <daker> http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/ humphreybc
[01:07] <humphreybc> that's awesome!
[01:07]  * humphreybc is overwhelmed by the awesomeness in this team
[01:07] <Red_HamsterX> "Features" is covered by the image.
[01:07] <Red_HamsterX> (Possibly because I'm using small fonts)
[01:07] <humphreybc> daker: maybe change the timing so that each image is displayed a bit longer?
[01:08] <daker> oki
[01:08] <daker> 5sec ?
[01:08] <humphreybc> Red_HamsterX: looks fine to me in Chrome and Firefox, I'm using size 9
[01:08] <ubuntujenkins> humphreybc: back
[01:08] <humphreybc> daker, what's it set to now?
[01:08] <humphreybc> okay so quickshot stuff
[01:08] <humphreybc> it didn't set my screen res correctly, but I set it using monitors fine
[01:09] <Red_HamsterX> Dunno, then.
[01:09] <humphreybc> In the last screen, where you can choose a shot and see descriptions
[01:09] <ubuntujenkins> whats your graphics card again?
[01:09] <humphreybc> I think the "Cancel" button needs to be "Close"
[01:09] <Red_HamsterX> I've made a note of that.
[01:09] <ubuntujenkins> I think i can solve the grahpics problem
[01:09] <Red_HamsterX> (EtherPad)
[01:09] <ubuntujenkins> the button can be changes
[01:10] <ubuntujenkins> *changed
[01:10] <humphreybc> because after I had taken some screenshots, and uploaded them (they were all pending approval) I had to think for a second whether I hit Next to upload them or hit Cancel - but if I hit cancel, my work might be lost?
[01:10] <humphreybc> Maybe it'd be better to change it to "Finish"
[01:10] <Red_HamsterX> Maybe we need to change the status text, too.
[01:10] <humphreybc> the Help > About window can be changed to reflect the real developers names so you guys get credit - myself and tommy haven't done a lot
[01:10] <Red_HamsterX> "uploaded; pending aproval"?
[01:10] <humphreybc> ubuntujenkins: ATI HD2600
[01:10] <humphreybc> Red_HamsterX: yeah that will work better
[01:11] <humphreybc> where did the screenshots go that I took?
[01:11] <Red_HamsterX> My server.
[01:11] <humphreybc> neat
[01:11] <Red_HamsterX> http://stellvia.uguu.ca/~flan/screencaps/data/
[01:11] <humphreybc> I love it how gedit automatically opens with some sample text
[01:11] <ubuntujenkins> humphreybc: open driver?
[01:12] <humphreybc> yep
[01:12] <humphreybc> are the gedit ones just test shots?
[01:12] <Red_HamsterX> Yeah.
[01:12] <humphreybc> cool
[01:12] <Red_HamsterX> Those arew just dummy entries to test things.
[01:12] <humphreybc> daker what size do the images have to be on the main page?
[01:12] <humphreybc> sweet
[01:12] <Red_HamsterX> I'll add real entries tonight and tomorrow.
[01:12] <ubuntujenkins> can you post lshw -C display for me please, this is where I need bug reports of ones that dont'work ( humphreybc )
[01:12] <humphreybc> it's looking really awesome though, i'm really impressed. considering the short amount of time you guys had!
[01:13] <humphreybc> ubuntujenkins: sure
[01:13] <ubuntujenkins> the more bugs on non reolution change we get the better
[01:13] <Red_HamsterX> titeuf did a lot for making the GUI simple and functional.
[01:13] <ubuntujenkins> *resolution
[01:13] <humphreybc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/402132/
[01:13] <daker> humphreybc, width="310" height="296"
[01:14] <humphreybc> daker: cool
[01:14] <humphreybc> daker: I'll make some images for you now
[01:14] <ubuntujenkins> Red_HamsterX: are you editing the bin/quickshot file now?
[01:15] <Red_HamsterX> I'm not doing anything at this moment.
[01:15] <humphreybc> daker: i'll email them to you in an hour or so
[01:15] <Red_HamsterX> (I've got a DHCP server issue to resolve)
[01:15] <ubuntujenkins> cool just making a change
[01:15] <daker> humphreybc, that's fine
[01:15] <humphreybc> ubuntujenkins: another thing, is it possible to disable certain things in the quickshot user?
[01:15] <Red_HamsterX> I won't be touching the code 'til at least twenty-four hours from now.
[01:15] <humphreybc> for example, if we can disable docky from starting
[01:15] <Red_HamsterX> Everything I'll edit will be server-side.
[01:16] <ubuntujenkins> ok thanks Red_HamsterX
[01:16] <humphreybc> (I have docky installed and it starts by default)
[01:16] <Red_HamsterX> docky?
[01:16] <ubuntujenkins> erm I will have a think
[01:16] <humphreybc> k
[01:16] <ubuntujenkins> thats easier said than done
[01:16] <ubuntujenkins> awn doesn't start for me
[01:17] <Red_HamsterX> Wouldn't the Quickshot user be completely free from such things?
[01:17] <ubuntujenkins> aparently not
[01:17]  * godbyk is still waiting for his food to arrive. :-(
[01:18] <Red_HamsterX> That seems to suggest that there's something wrong with the other package.
[01:18] <Red_HamsterX> :(
[01:18] <Red_HamsterX> Go stab people.
[01:18] <Red_HamsterX> Stabbing makes time pass quickly
[01:18] <Red_HamsterX> And they may drop candy.
[01:18] <godbyk> heh.
[01:21] <ubuntujenkins> humphreybc: it should work now, if you remove the old package and add the one in your e-mail inbox and give it a wirl
[01:31] <humphreybc> awesome
[01:32] <humphreybc> ill try it in a sec
[01:32] <humphreybc> should i remove the quickshot user?
[01:33] <ubuntujenkins> erm not any more did it auto launch last time?
[01:34] <humphreybc> yup
[01:34] <humphreybc> quickshot started before the gnome session did
[01:34] <ubuntujenkins> just before if you had one that had bzr related stuff in
[01:34] <ubuntujenkins> swwwweeeeeeeeeeettttttttttt
[01:34] <humphreybc> you *could* add a slight delay to quickshot loading
[01:34] <humphreybc> but it's not that important
[01:35] <ubuntujenkins> added to the list
[01:35] <jaminday> ubuntujenkins: hey - no i'm not editing (he replies 5 hrs later!!!)
[01:36] <ubuntujenkins> np problem jaminday I like to check before doing changes in lots of files
[01:36] <ubuntujenkins> all of the screenshots are now in
[01:37] <jaminday> great
[01:37] <humphreybc> ubuntujenkins: yep, it works! you're awesome1
[01:37] <jaminday> humphreybc: you get my mugshot?
[01:37] <humphreybc> yup sure did
[01:37] <humphreybc> looking good dude haha
[01:37] <ubuntujenkins> not really me that stuffs easy, any promotion after its relese can you ask for people to check for autores changes
[01:38] <humphreybc> sure
[01:38] <ubuntujenkins> ta
[01:38] <humphreybc> it might be worth fine tuning some of the wording in the quickshot text
[01:39] <ubuntujenkins> will do :-) any suggestions are welcome
[01:39] <jaminday> humphreybc: hehe
[01:39] <Red_HamsterX> Rewording will be part of polishing.
[01:39] <humphreybc> UMP is just getting more and more awesome every day
[01:40] <humphreybc> Red_HamsterX: sweet :D
[01:40]  * humphreybc is listening to the Kraken from Pirates of the Caribbean soundtrack
[01:40] <humphreybc> lol
[01:40] <Red_HamsterX> MAking it delay its startup should e easy, too.
[01:40] <Red_HamsterX> We could just put a 'sleep 2' or somethin in the rc file.
[01:40] <humphreybc> yeah, maybe just a 5 or 10 second delay
[01:40] <ubuntujenkins> I know
[01:41] <ubuntujenkins> I can do that tomorrow
[01:41] <humphreybc> :D
[01:41] <Red_HamsterX> Just put it in the pad and one of us'll do it.
[01:41] <humphreybc> where's the pad?
[01:42] <Red_HamsterX> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/aA6ygCXL9F
[01:42] <humphreybc> thanks
[01:42] <nvsbl> question: will physical copies of the manual be available for purchase at any time in the future?
[01:42] <humphreybc> oh right
[01:42] <humphreybc> THAT pad
[01:42] <humphreybc> :)
[01:42] <humphreybc> nvsbl: yup they will be :)
[01:42] <humphreybc> we're going to publish it through lulu.com
[01:43] <jaminday> On a side note - is anyone using banshee from the unstable ppa?
[01:43] <nvsbl> thats awesome, thanks
[01:45]  * ubuntujenkins is going to go all linux outlaws and use #blamepo pey
[01:46] <humphreybc> lol
[01:52] <ubuntujenkins> anyone know how i sign a file with my pgp key?
[01:53] <ubuntujenkins> a pen will not work :P
[01:59] <daker> $ gpg --clearsign file  ?
[02:00] <ubuntujenkins> daker: that deoesn't work i am afraid
[02:00] <daker> http://www.sonatype.com/people/2010/01/how-to-generate-pgp-signatures-with-maven/
[02:01] <daker> $ gpg -ab file
[02:02] <Red_HamsterX> Are you trying to encrypt the file or just prove it's yours?
[02:02] <ubuntujenkins> I think prove its mine
[02:03] <Red_HamsterX> Clearsign's what I'd use, then.
[02:03] <Red_HamsterX> Unless it's binary.
[02:03] <ubuntujenkins> are sorry daker i made a typo
[02:03] <ubuntujenkins> thanks
[02:06] <daker> don't worry
[02:09] <daker> godbyk, can u write the text for the previous pages ?
[02:09] <godbyk> daker: which pages?
 http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/?notyet
 http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/?unavailable
[02:11] <godbyk> ah, sure.
[02:11] <godbyk> give me just a moment to finish eating and I'll write the text.
[02:12]  * daker think that launchpad is bugging
[02:12] <humphreybc> daker, i'm just going to email you the new images for the slideshow now
[02:12] <humphreybc> wait
[02:13] <humphreybc> i can put it on my server :)
[02:13] <godbyk> Okay, finished with supper.
[02:13] <daker> sure
[02:13] <godbyk> Lemme write daker's text.
[02:13] <humphreybc> http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/images.tar.gz
[02:13] <humphreybc> that should work
[02:14] <godbyk> daker: on the ?notyet page, do we know which version they requested?
[02:14] <daker> we can
[02:14] <humphreybc> daker, i had to make the images slightly higher, i hope that doesn't screw anything up
[02:18] <daker> nice
[02:19] <daker> i remove this http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/images/gettingstartedguide.png
[02:27] <ubuntujenkins> gggrrr i give up night all o/
[02:27] <daker> good night
[02:38] <godbyk> hey, daker. what's your email address?
[02:38] <daker> adnane@ubuntu-manual.org
[02:40] <godbyk> daker: I emailed you some text for those pages.
[02:40] <godbyk> Let me know if you have any questions.
[02:42] <daker> great
[02:43] <daker> another thing
[02:44] <humphreybc> :D
[02:44] <daker> i need description for the pages : home,downloads,getinve,contrib
[02:44] <humphreybc> did you put the new images on daker?
[02:44] <daker> humphreybc,  i remove this http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/images/gettingstartedguide.png
[02:44] <daker> ?
[02:44] <humphreybc> daker, yes
[02:44] <daker> oki
[02:47] <godbyk> daker: as in <meta> descriptions?
[02:48] <daker> yes
[02:49] <daker> if we put the same description, it will be considered as duplicated content
[02:49] <jaminday> humphreybc: when is the writing freeze exactly - in UTC time - so i know how many nights i've got left to work on it.
[02:49] <humphreybc> jaminday: dunno, probably 0000 UTC on the 31st
[02:49] <humphreybc> so midnight on the 31st
[02:50] <jaminday> ok
[02:50] <humphreybc> which will mean you have most of April 1st to work on it :P
[02:50] <humphreybc> well, a few hours
[02:50] <jaminday> yeah the more time the better
[02:50] <humphreybc> the writing freeze won't hit me till thursday at about 1pm
[02:50] <jaminday> ok so that means it'll be about 11am thurs for me
[02:50] <humphreybc> yeah
[02:51] <jaminday> cool thanks
[02:51] <godbyk> ?home: "Getting Started with Ubuntu 10.04 is a free, comprehensive beginner's guide for the Ubuntu operating system."
[02:52] <godbyk> ?downloads: "Download a PDF of Getting Started with Ubuntu 10.04."
[02:52] <godbyk> ?getinvolved: "Find out how you can help contribute to the Ubuntu Manual Project."
[02:53] <godbyk> ?contrib: "The Ubuntu Manual team consists of a large number of volunteers: authors, translators, editors, designers, and developers."
[02:53] <humphreybc> godbyk: yeah that's good
[02:53] <daker> great
[02:54] <humphreybc> also, daker, those images are in order 1, 2, 3 4
[02:54] <daker> yeap
[02:54] <humphreybc> so if you can put them in order in the slideshow (i know it'll loop) that'd be great
[02:54] <humphreybc> it's sort of like a small walkthrough of the book
[02:54] <daker> yes
[02:55] <humphreybc> :D
[02:55] <humphreybc> you're doing an awesome job daker!
[02:55] <daker> thanks
[02:58] <daker> the title "Getting Started with Ubuntu XX.YY" will be translate in the manual ?
[02:59] <jaminday> hey great progress bar on the site
[02:59] <daker> :)
[03:00] <godbyk> daker: yes, it will be translated.
[03:00] <daker> ok
[03:01] <jaminday> Well i gotta go play a wedding!
[03:01] <jaminday> bye all
[03:01] <daker> bye
[03:24] <humphreybc> hey daker, are you adding those new images to the site? I'm excited to see what they look like xD
[03:25] <daker> just minute i am adding godbyk's text
[03:26] <humphreybc> :)
[03:28] <godbyk> See, humphreybc.  This is how the world works.  Given a choice between working on my stuff or working on your stuff, people will always choose my stuff first.  :-P
[03:28] <humphreybc> lol
[03:28] <daker> hhh
[03:35] <humphreybc> godbyk: isn't everyone working on my stuff? wasn't this whole thing my idea? :P
[03:35] <daker> humphreybc's stuff are already done
[03:36] <humphreybc> ha!
[03:36] <daker> fu*** we missed the xx:30
[03:36] <humphreybc> :D
[03:36] <humphreybc> daker, hmm?
[03:36] <daker> we have to wait 30 min to see the changes
[03:37] <humphreybc> ohh right
[03:37] <humphreybc> haha
[03:37] <godbyk> heh
[03:37] <godbyk> I'll do a manual pull for you guys
[03:37] <humphreybc> well, just push your stuff now and i'll update in 20 minutes
[03:37] <humphreybc> maybe godbyk should change it to every 15 mins :P
[03:37] <daker> yeah
[03:37] <godbyk> okay, I pulled.
[03:38] <humphreybc> neat
[03:39] <humphreybc> oh wow
[03:39] <humphreybc> that's lovely
[03:39] <daker> nice
[03:39] <humphreybc> good work daker!
[03:39] <humphreybc> it's perfect, nice and subtle
[03:39] <humphreybc> lovely fade
[03:40] <daker> great
[03:41]  * humphreybc can't stop staring at it
[03:42]  * daker will hibernate in 10minutes
[03:42] <humphreybc> i'll have to make a new image for the downloads page
[03:42] <humphreybc> i'll do that tomorrow
[03:42] <daker> yeah
[03:43] <godbyk> if you're going to use a cover image, use thorwil's, not the one in the pdf.
[03:43] <godbyk> (I haven't finished fixing up the pdf's cover page yet)
[03:44] <humphreybc> what's the difference?
[03:45] <daker> humphreybc, What time is it now?
[03:45] <humphreybc> daker, it's 4:45pm my time
[03:45] <humphreybc> on saturday
[03:45] <nisshh> what about saturday?
[03:46] <godbyk> lots of little things.
[03:46] <humphreybc> oh, just telling daker my time
[03:46] <godbyk> font sizes, positions of graphics.
[03:46] <godbyk> etc., etc.
[03:46] <humphreybc> nisshh: check out this, http://test.ubuntu-manual.org
[03:46] <humphreybc> godbyk: okay i'll change it tomorrow
[03:46] <daker> 3:45am saturday
[03:47] <godbyk> anyone know what the best netbook out there is these days? my brother's asking.
[03:47] <humphreybc> godbyk: the Dell mini 9 is pretty awesome
[03:47] <daker> humphreybc, try to switch between languages
[03:48] <godbyk> humphreybc: he just sent me a link to a $350 ASUS Eee PC Seashell 1005PE-PU17-BU 10.1-Inch Blue Netbook (Up to 14 Hours of Battery Life)
[03:48] <humphreybc> daker, the slideshow is out of place on the arabic languag
[03:48] <humphreybc> godbyk: I don't really know that much about netbooks
[03:48] <nisshh> hehe, i like the "Lead TeXnician"
[03:48] <godbyk> me neither.
[03:48] <daker> humphreybc, hhh
[03:49] <nisshh> godbyk whats his budget?
[03:49]  * humphreybc still can't get over how awesome this project is becoming
[03:50] <godbyk> nisshh: I'm not sure.
[03:50] <godbyk> nisshh: You can just toss out some options and I'll forward them along.
[03:50] <godbyk> I'm not sure what his criteria is either.
[03:51] <nisshh> ok, i suppose he wants a large battery life though>
[03:51] <godbyk> brb. I'll ask him.
[03:52] <nisshh> godbyk: http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/collection/1658/top_10_netbooks.html
[03:53] <nisshh> also my brother has a nice one from early last year
[03:53] <nisshh> although it has no ssd and only 2GB ram
[03:59] <humphreybc> daker: the website works in the android browser too!
[03:59] <daker> GREATTTTT
[04:01] <daker> http://test.ubuntu-manual.org
[04:01]  * daker will hibernate in 1minutes
[04:02] <nisshh> so the "test" website is going up on release day?
[04:03] <humphreybc> daker: works on mac in safari too
[04:03] <nisshh> humphreybc: is there a meeting this weekend?
[04:03] <humphreybc> nisshh: RC
[04:03] <humphreybc> and no, no meeting
[04:03] <nisshh> oh release candidate?
[04:03] <humphreybc> actually
[04:03] <humphreybc> i'm not sure
[04:04] <humphreybc> probably put it up like a day before the launch
[04:04] <nisshh> ok yea
[04:04] <humphreybc> it'll be super awesome
[04:04] <daker> godbyk, give it a pull
[04:04] <nisshh> tell you what, the glossary is a bit of work
[04:04] <humphreybc> yeah
[04:04] <humphreybc> we might have to cut the glossary
[04:04] <nisshh> adding bits of code all over the place
[04:04] <nisshh> yea, does it depend what i get done by wednesday
[04:05] <humphreybc> okay
[04:05] <humphreybc> aim for about a dozen entries
[04:05] <nisshh> ok thats doable
[04:05] <humphreybc> if it's any less than that, we'll have to cut it
[04:05] <humphreybc> obviously if you reach 12 keep going though
[04:05] <humphreybc> we want as many as possible
[04:05] <nisshh> yes
[04:05] <humphreybc> use common sense as to which ones are the most important
[04:05] <nisshh> yea
[04:06] <nisshh> ill make a big push this arvo
[04:06] <humphreybc> have you got anyone in your family who's totally hopeless with computers?
[04:06] <humphreybc> like mum/sister/grandparents?
[04:06] <nisshh> yes, everyone except me and my bro
[04:06] <humphreybc> haha okay
[04:06] <daker> no
[04:06] <nisshh> ill ask them
[04:06] <humphreybc> if you're in doubt, ask them if they know what a word means
[04:06] <daker> friends
[04:06] <humphreybc> if they don't, it'll have to go in the glossary
[04:06] <humphreybc> daker: hmm?
[04:07] <nisshh> yeo
[04:07] <nisshh> i got my bro to put crunchbang on hs netnook actually
[04:07] <humphreybc> lol nice
[04:07] <nisshh> netbook
[04:07] <nisshh> he likes it
[04:07]  * daker will hibernate in 50secs
[04:08] <humphreybc> lol see ya daker
[04:08] <nisshh> daker: you said that 10 minutes ago lol
[04:08] <daker> i am at 0.1%
[04:09] <daker> of energy
[04:09] <nisshh> :D
[04:09] <nisshh> laptop or netbook?
[04:10] <daker> humphreybc, the bugg is fixed , just for the next refresh
[04:10] <daker> wait
[04:10] <humphreybc> daker: awesome :D
[04:11] <godbyk> back now.
[04:11] <daker> pls tell dutchie to upload verify the /daker-test/includes/languages/ubu_man_website_translations.pot
[04:11] <daker> file
[04:12] <nisshh> humphreybc: did you get my mugshot the other day?
[04:12] <humphreybc> nisshh: sure did
[04:12] <humphreybc> daker: kk
[04:12] <godbyk> daker, humphreybc: I pulled the new site
[04:12] <godbyk> nisshh: thanks! I'll forward that to my brother.
[04:13] <nisshh> godbyk: no probs
[04:13] <daker> humphreybc, http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/?lang=ar
[04:13] <nisshh> godbyk: tell your bro that googles his best mate
[04:13] <godbyk> It is hard to write good glossary entries.  What're the main difficulties you've been having, nisshh?
[04:14] <daker> see you @all
[04:14] <nisshh> it just takes ages
[04:14] <nisshh> since i have to add little snippets everywhere
[04:14] <humphreybc> see ya daker! thanks!
[04:14]  * daker is shutting down
[04:14] <daker> no problemo
[04:14] <godbyk> see ya, daker.
[04:14] <nisshh> cya daker
[04:19] <godbyk> just looking at the arabic version of our site.
[04:20] <godbyk> you know what would be neat? to have the slideshow display pages from that translation of the manual.
[04:20] <godbyk> so the arabic page shows the arabic manual in the slideshow.
[04:27] <nisshh> thats an awesome idea
[04:49] <humphreybc> godbyk: as if i didn't make it hard enough
[04:50] <godbyk> :)
[04:50] <humphreybc> i think we can get away with english screenshots at that size
[04:50] <humphreybc> i think it's more than enough to have an arabic site :D
[04:52] <humphreybc> unless you can think of a really easy way to capture some shots of pages of the translated manuals, resize them and then have them display in a slideshow on the correct translated site
[04:53] <humphreybc> after all this is done, when someone asks me how we did all this
[04:53] <godbyk> Except the headings are readable, and the RTL languages will look a lot different. :)
[04:53] <humphreybc> my answer is going to be "Well, we just thought of some cool stuff to do and did it"
[04:54] <godbyk> Sure.  convert is awesome.
[04:54] <godbyk> imagemagick
[04:54] <humphreybc> godbyk: we could do an arabic version just for the RTL language things
[04:54] <godbyk> I'll write a script to do it sometime.
[04:54] <humphreybc> haha
[04:54] <humphreybc> okay if you can do it easily and have enough time
[04:54] <humphreybc> with the drop shadows too?
[04:54] <humphreybc> (it has to look pretty)
[04:59] <humphreybc> right, gotta go to work
[04:59] <humphreybc> later
[05:01] <nisshh> godbyk: do you still want the glossary entries to be linked in the first instance of each chapter?
[05:02] <godbyk> It's not a hard rule, just link them where you think it's appropriate.
[05:03] <nisshh> right, currently iv only linked them from the first instance in the entire manual
[05:03] <nisshh> not sure if its enough or now
[05:03] <nisshh> not
[06:45] <Red_HamsterX> godbyk, any chance you're still awake?
[06:45] <godbyk> Red_HamsterX: Yep.
[06:45] <Red_HamsterX> Yay.
[06:46] <Red_HamsterX> Question about screencap names for chapter 3.
[06:46] <Red_HamsterX> The ones ubuntujenkins uploaded read "rythambox"
[06:46] <Red_HamsterX> Should I fi the typo or would it break things?
[06:46] <Red_HamsterX> fix*
[06:46] <godbyk> lemme look
[06:47] <godbyk> it won't hurt anything outright, but we should spell it correctly to make it easier for others.
[06:48] <Red_HamsterX> Afected filenames: 03-rythambox-cd.png -> 03-rhythmbox-cd.png; 03-rythambox-podcast.png -> 03-rhythmbox-podcast.png
[06:48] <Red_HamsterX> Affected*
[06:49] <godbyk> you'll need to change the lines in the .tex file, too.
[06:50] <Red_HamsterX> Which?
[06:50] <godbyk> default-apps/listening-to-audio-and-music.tex
[06:50] <Red_HamsterX> 'Kay.
[06:50] <Red_HamsterX> This won't affect translations, right?
[06:50] <godbyk> nope
[06:50] <godbyk> well, fixing the spelling error in the caption will.
[06:50] <godbyk> but it needs to be done
[06:53] <Red_HamsterX> Done.
[06:53] <Red_HamsterX> Thanks. :)
[07:50] <ubuntujenkins> morning all
[07:50] <Red_HamsterX> Hi.
[07:50] <Red_HamsterX> Eight entries left before I can sleep~
[07:51] <ubuntujenkins> hello Red_HamsterX nice work I better ad the screenshots to the english bzr branch
[07:52] <Red_HamsterX> I'd wait.
[07:53] <Red_HamsterX> We should try to use Quickshot to collect as many of those as possible.
[07:53] <Red_HamsterX> So we'll know what needs to be fixed.
[07:53] <ubuntujenkins> ok I think i may have forgoteten to put some in the quickshot branch, you can do those later
[07:54] <ubuntujenkins> when you next have time
[08:00] <ubuntujenkins> I am still waiting for news on what screenshots are wanted for ubuntu one, the section is yet to be finished
[08:02] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: which chapter is the ubuntuone section in?
[08:03] <ubuntujenkins> 3 nisshh I keep asking mattgriffin each time he comes on
[08:03] <nisshh> has he not said he will do it yet?
[08:04] <nisshh> its a must, if we dont get it finished it will be cut for final
[08:04] <Red_HamsterX> Oh, no. More screencaps. D:
[08:06] <ubuntujenkins> Well done Red_HamsterX
[08:06] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: he has said he is doing it  and i keep casing him
[08:07] <ubuntujenkins> he said he would do it since very near the start of th release cycle
[08:07] <ubuntujenkins> are weel it goes on
[08:09] <nisshh> hmmmm, i dont think he will end up getting to it
[08:10] <nisshh> i mean cmon, start of cycle was 2 months ago
[08:11] <nisshh> is anyone available to do it
[08:13] <Red_HamsterX> So why are we teaching users about PPAs?
[08:14] <Red_HamsterX> I didn't get a response last time I asked.
[08:15] <nisshh> because they are an integral part of ubuntu
[08:15] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: he did rythambox the other day
[08:16] <ubuntujenkins> Red_HamsterX: i think its in the advanced section, it is a good way to get other programs easily
[08:16] <Red_HamsterX> rhythmbox*
[08:16] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: you need to tell him that he must get all his writing in quick if he wants it to be included
[08:17] <Red_HamsterX> (I already fixed the typos in the filenames and tex files)
[08:17] <ubuntujenkins> I just knoticed thanks Red_HamsterX
[08:17] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: I do keep telling him, i told him to get it done by 21st at the start of last week
[08:22] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: ok, well if he hasnt written it by monday we either do it for him or drop it for next release
[08:22] <nisshh> we really cant afford to have half finished stuff
[08:22] <ubuntujenkins> mm we will have to see what he comes up with
[08:22] <nisshh> yes, its up to matt now
[08:23] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: benjamin needs to know about this
[08:23] <nisshh> if you speak to him first can you let him know?
[08:24] <ubuntujenkins> he already knows i think
[08:24] <nisshh> ok, thats good
[08:35] <Red_HamsterX> Okay, my server's updated with all the new stuff. It's scripted to update every hour.
[08:35] <Red_HamsterX> Quickshot should now see a pretty full list of screencap data.
[08:36] <Red_HamsterX> Please feel free to edit server/screencaps/config/dictionary to fill in holes in descriptions/steps or to fix any typos I may have missed in my need-sleep-ness.
[08:36]  * Red_HamsterX sleeps.
[08:36] <ubuntujenkins> thansk night Red_HamsterX
[08:36] <Red_HamsterX> Welcome and g'night~
[08:38] <nisshh> hehe night
[09:00] <ubuntujenkins> I am off my dad is here o/
[10:12] <daker> back
[10:36] <humphreybc> hi
[10:36] <daker> :)
[10:46] <humphreybc> what's up?
[10:46] <daker> i need the image for the downloads page :)
[10:47] <humphreybc> heh
[10:47] <humphreybc> okay i'll get onto that
[10:48] <humphreybc> what size?
[10:49] <daker> 310*310
[10:50] <humphreybc> thorwil: pin
[10:50] <humphreybc> ping*
[10:51] <thorwil> humphreybc: pon(g)
[10:51] <humphreybc> where can I find an image of the final title page?
[10:51] <humphreybc> (not from the PDF in the branch)
[10:51] <humphreybc> I looked on your blog, but the icon colours are brown instead of light orange
[10:52] <humphreybc> have you got the final title page lying around somewhere as a png?
[10:52] <thorwil> humphreybc: there's only the svg of that so far
[10:53] <humphreybc> could you export a png and email me it/stick it in the branch please?
[10:53] <thorwil> humphreybc: letter or a4, what resolution/size?
[10:53] <humphreybc> size could be < 400px
[10:53] <humphreybc> and A4 please
[10:53] <thorwil> k
[10:59] <humphreybc> thanks thorwil
[10:59] <thorwil> humphreybc: send
[11:02]  * thorwil -> lunch
[11:06] <daker> humphreybc,  What languages are rtl?
[11:06] <daker> i know the arabic, the hebrew
[11:06] <daker> wich are rtl
[11:06] <humphreybc> no idea
[11:06] <humphreybc> ask google ;)
[11:07] <daker> he tells me arabic, the hebrew
[11:07] <humphreybc> daker, http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/downloads.png
[11:07] <humphreybc> maybe godbyk will know
[11:08] <humphreybc> is that okay daker?
[11:08] <humphreybc> also, i think the logo/header on the site is a bit too big
[11:08] <daker> good
[11:08] <humphreybc> could you reduce it by about 20% ?
[11:09] <daker> the height
[11:09] <daker> thorwil, made some changes on the logo yesterday
[11:10] <humphreybc> right
[11:10] <humphreybc> it's a bit big
[11:11] <daker> that's the header(100px) not the logo image
[11:11] <daker> i'll changed to 80px
[11:11] <humphreybc> ah okay
[11:12] <humphreybc> also should the word "Language" above the language selector be a wee bit smaller?
[11:13] <daker> it will be
[11:13] <humphreybc> cool :)
[11:16] <daker> could you pls check the spelling text :)
[11:17] <humphreybc> throughout all the website?
[11:17] <daker> http://127.0.0.1/daker-test/?getinvolved
[11:17] <daker> sorry
[11:17] <daker> test.ubuntu-manual.org/?getinvolved
[11:18] <humphreybc> and consistent documentation for the Ubuntu operating system..
[11:18] <humphreybc> you don't need the two dots
[11:18] <humphreybc> just one
[11:19] <humphreybc> " the Linux barrier to entry fo new user"
[11:19] <humphreybc> "fo" should be "for"
[11:19] <humphreybc> "user" should be "users"
[11:19] <humphreybc> "We are always looking for talented people to work with, and due to the size of the project, we"
[11:19] <humphreybc> the second comma isn't needed
[11:20] <humphreybc> so it should be "We are always looking for talented people to work with, and due to the size of the project we"
[11:20] <humphreybc> "Head to our wiki page" I think this should be "Head over to our wiki page"
[11:20] <humphreybc> "on how to get started:" should be "on how to get involved:"
[11:21] <daker> fine
[11:21] <humphreybc> :)
[11:23] <humphreybc> Could you please add the following to the end of the third paragraph: "We have a strong emphasis on just "getting things done" and therefore we have a fast-paced development environment filled with lots of unique ideas."
[11:23] <humphreybc> So it should be:
[11:23] <humphreybc> "It didn’t take long until the project amassed hundreds of contributors, and what Benjamin originally envisioned became a reality as the Ubuntu Manual Project blossomed into an ambitious and successful project. We have a strong emphasis on just "getting things done" and therefore we have a fast-paced development environment filled with lots of unique ideas."
[11:23] <daker> oki :)
[11:24] <humphreybc> actually, make that "filled with lots of exciting new ideas." :D
[11:24] <humphreybc> so add in the excitin
[11:24] <humphreybc> exciting*
[11:24] <humphreybc> sorry!
[11:25] <humphreybc> also, daker, on the first page you've spelt license with a 'c' - "licence." I think it should be "license."
[11:25] <humphreybc> so, "It is written under an open source license and is free for you to download, read, modify and share."
[11:26] <humphreybc> "everday tasks" should be "everyday tasks" << there's a "y" missing in everyday
[11:26]  * daker is very bad in english :s
[11:27] <humphreybc> no you're doing a great job :D
[11:27] <humphreybc> Some of these are my fault anyway
[11:27] <humphreybc> I might change this: "Progressive learning curve - start with the basics, and learn as you progress through each chapter"
[11:27] <humphreybc> to this:
[11:27] <humphreybc> "Progressive learning curve - start with the basics, and learn as you work through each chapter"
[11:27] <humphreybc> so remove "progress" and add "work" instead
[11:28] <daker> "getting things done" should be with the " "
[11:28] <humphreybc> yep
[11:28] <daker> oki
[11:28] <humphreybc> "CC-BY-SA licensing - modify, reproduce and share as much as you like" can become:
[11:28] <humphreybc> "CC-BY-SA licensing - download, modify, reproduce and share as much as you like"
[11:28] <humphreybc> so add in the word "download"
[11:29] <humphreybc> at some point we'll have to add in the fact it'll be available to purchase physically from lulu.com
[11:29] <humphreybc> but we'll come to that when we set that up
[11:29] <humphreybc> change this: "No cost - our documents are all written by volunteers and there is no charge to use them"
[11:29] <humphreybc> to this:
[11:29] <humphreybc> "No cost - our documents are all written by Ubuntu community members and there is no charge to use them"
[11:30] <humphreybc> in the footer, you don't need a dash between "Attribution" and "Share"
[11:30] <humphreybc> so at the moment it is: Creative Commons Attribution–Share-Alike
[11:30] <humphreybc> but it should become: Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike
[11:32] <humphreybc> I think that's all the errors I can find!
[11:32] <humphreybc> good work daker, really it's looking awesome
[11:37]  * humphreybc just realised this project is truly an international effort
[11:37] <humphreybc> godbyk lives in the USA, dutchie lives in the UK, thorwil lives in Germany, Jamin lives in western Australia, I live in New Zealand
[11:37] <humphreybc> daker: where do you live?
[11:39] <thorwil> daker: what did you do exactly?
[11:47] <daker> humphreybc, i live in Morocco http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco
[11:47] <humphreybc> Morocco! cool!
[11:48] <daker> thorwil, 21 & 5month, i'm student at the university
[11:48] <daker> years
[11:48] <thorwil> daker: heh, i meant with the logo/type
[11:49] <daker> thorwil, everything fine
[11:51] <humphreybc> hey daker, is it just me, or is the text inside the buttons slightly higher than centered?
[11:51] <daker> where ?
[11:51] <humphreybc> on the main page... is the "Download Now" text inside the orange button in the center, horizontally?
[11:52] <humphreybc> it might just be me
[11:53] <daker> i'll look
[12:32]  * daker is listening  to Outlandish - Feels Like Saving The World
[13:40] <daker> titeuf_87, you're french ?
[13:41] <titeuf_87> I'm Belgian, I can speak French but I'm horrible at writing it.
[13:41] <daker> oki
[14:33] <daker> dutchie, !!!
[14:35] <daker> godbyk, we need a google-site-verification
[16:47] <daker> hi ubuntujenkins
[17:13] <daker> ubuntujenkins, godbyk what's the percentage of UMP progress ?
[17:36] <ubuntujenkins> daker: I am at home with anyoing interent joining godbyk ;P as for progress % ask ben. It depends if you count translations
[17:37] <daker> kk
[17:40] <godbyk-android> Daker: humphreybc usually makes up and sets that number
[17:40] <godbyk-android> There's no real imperial measurement that we're using
[17:41] <godbyk-android> I just got back from helping my friend move
[17:41] <godbyk-android> Going to catch a little more sleep now
[17:42] <godbyk-android> since he woke me up after only 3.5 hours
[17:42] <ubuntujenkins> nn godbyk-android
[17:49] <daker> oki godbyk-android
[19:15] <ubuntujenkins> w=evening
[19:26] <daker> heklp!!!
[19:27] <daker> anyone here ?
[19:30] <dutchie> o/
[19:31] <semioticrobotic> hi all
[19:31] <dutchie> daker: what's up?
[19:31] <daker> one min
[19:32] <daker> dutchie i have ubuntu installed with wubi
[19:32] <daker> so i have made a big update > 200Mo
[19:33] <daker> when rebooting it gives me the sh:grub> terminal
[19:34] <dutchie> er, not sure
[19:34] <daker> so i have made a mistake when i execute the commands in the manual
[19:34] <daker> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sda and so
[19:34] <dutchie> from a live cd?
[19:34] <daker> yes
[19:35] <dutchie> could you pastebin your /etc/default/grub.conf?
[19:36] <daker> i search in the net and i found that its a bugg and i have to replace the old wubildr file in c:\
[19:36] <daker> i want to remove the grub menu
[19:36] <dutchie> ah, if it's wubi specific, I have no idea
[19:36] <daker> :s
[19:37] <dutchie> try asking in #ubuntu or in your loco channel
[19:44] <semioticrobotic> number of unfixed bugs in the manual is dwindling!
[19:50] <ubuntujenkins> semioticrobotic: thats good news
[19:51] <semioticrobotic> indeed it is
[19:57] <Red_HamsterX> ubuntujenkins, titeuf_87, http://stellvia.uguu.ca/~flan/screencaps/ now shows a (still-primitive) progress display for each language.
[19:58] <Red_HamsterX> (When languages are partially done, you can see what's missing, and when they're totally done, you'll be given links to the zipfile facilities)
[19:59] <ubuntujenkins> Red_HamsterX: thats really good nice to get an idea of how it is all going
[19:59] <titeuf_87> Oh sweet, nice work.
[19:59] <Red_HamsterX> It's better than the <select/> I had before.
[20:00] <Red_HamsterX> It should appear on the other server in a few minutes.
[20:00] <ubuntujenkins> and I have got the live cd down to 692 mb
[20:00] <Red_HamsterX> Yay!
[20:01] <ubuntujenkins> space for another language or two
[20:01] <ubuntujenkins> I wouldn't like to installl using this disk there is so much random sutff missing
[20:02] <Red_HamsterX> Sounds fun.
[20:03] <daker> back
[20:03] <ubuntujenkins> now for this ppa
[20:04] <daker> dutchie: could you pls check & upload the new pot file /daker-test/includes/languages/ubu....pot
[20:05] <dutchie> one moment
[20:18] <dutchie> to be honest, checking is probably superfluous as LP will do that for us
[20:19] <dutchie> wasn't there something about splitting out the website stuff into a separate brancH/
[20:19] <dutchie> wow, completely missed the shift key there
[20:21] <daker> ?
[20:22] <dutchie> weren't you going to move all of the website code out of the main ubuntu-manual branch and into a separate ubuntu-manual-website one
[20:24] <daker> well i don't know if, i have to talk to humphreybc about it
[20:26] <Red_HamsterX> It might make more sense to wait 'til the launch, to avoid confusing people.
[20:27] <dutchie> I will definitely have to go to bed before humphreybc shows up
[21:29] <dutchie> daker: that seems to have worked reasonably well actually
[21:33] <daker> worked what ?
[21:34] <dutchie> daker: the .pot file
[21:35] <daker> did you upload it ?
[21:36] <dutchie> no, launchpad auto-imports then from the branch
[21:36] <daker> oki :)
[21:41] <ubuntujenkins> night all
[22:48] <daker> still 3days of work
[23:23] <godbyk> I'm alive again.