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elkyfor reference before we start:02:50
IdleOneSo yeah How do we get international UW teams involved in this channel?02:50
elky<elky> we really need to find a good way to bring all the international UW groups in to the folds02:50
elky<IdleOne> yes I agree, the language barrier does limit access for a lot of women I am sure02:50
elky<pleia2> do any exist yet?02:50
elky<IdleOne> I don't have any idea how we could accomplish that02:50
elkyI think there's some channels02:50
* elky goes to play scour the channel list02:50
IdleOneok so /list was not helpful :/ and ugly looking to boot02:52
IdleOneheh02:52
pleia2probably want to /msg alis02:52
elkyxchat being graphical it's a bit easier to work with02:52
pleia2but alis would only have registered channels, of course02:53
elkythe problem is that "woman" isn't the same in all languages, funnily enough02:53
pleia2of course02:53
IdleOnewell in french it is femme02:55
IdleOnebut even that does not mean they have the word "woman" in the name02:55
IdleOneguess a thread on the loco teams mailing list might be a start asking people to join here02:56
elkyI spot none in the list. I'd expect there to be at least one for de, es, fr, pt as they have extensive sub-namespaces, but there is nothing visible for those02:59
IdleOnetatica1 from the -hn team is go to person according to magifab03:00
IdleOneI could send a message asking her to join here and perhaps invite people she knows who are interrested03:00
IdleOnemagicfab*03:01
elkyI think we need to have a basic plan of what we want to ask of people before we go asking them03:01
IdleOneelky: yup, good idea03:01
elkywe need a better way of organising the wiki translating too03:02
elkybeing monolingual means that my best guess wasn't really best anything :P03:02
pleia2yeah, we should ask a translations person03:03
* pleia2 doesn't know either03:03
elkyI think what we want is an internationalization sub team03:03
* pleia2 nods03:03
IdleOneok so basically a carbon copy of the wiki in different languages?03:04
elkyIdleOne, ideally, yes.03:04
elkywe may want to start it as a project in launchpad even, for managing it03:04
* IdleOne will begin work on the french translation and ask issyl0 if she would like to help out :)03:04
elky\o/03:05
IdleOnenot tonight though :P03:05
IdleOnebut put me down for that03:05
IdleOneI would also ask that you and pleia2 kick me in the butt now and then if I begin to slack03:05
elkyif youse can get a good skeleton structure, then we'll be rolling03:05
IdleOne:)03:05
pleia2IdleOne: mission accepted :P03:05
IdleOneyou been trying to get to kick me for years now :P03:06
elkyAlso, an internationalisation footer to include in to the pages, so people can click a flag and be directed to their translation would /rock/03:06
pleia2the wiki has some #header things to help with language somehow03:06
pleia2but that's all voodoo to me03:06
elkypleia2, we need to find someone whose used it before then :)03:06
IdleOnewiki magic is voodoo to me also but I can learn.03:07
* pleia2 nods03:07
elkyi just find stuff that looks nice and steal it03:07
elkythis might be a bit beyond that though03:07
IdleOnewe might need to revise English, please03:10
IdleOne#ubuntu-women is an English language channel. If you speak in another language in #ubuntu-women, you will be redirected to the appropriate Ubuntu channels in other languages.03:10
IdleOneto make it a little more inclusive somehow03:10
IdleOneanother thing to figure out03:10
IdleOneor more tollerant of other languages with enphasis on english03:11
elkywell, we'd have to make some sub-channels. this is why a sub-team would be worthwhile03:12
macowe've let other languages go when we had someone who we trust that speaks that language around03:12
macolike russian when LucidFox is around03:12
IdleOnemaco: true03:12
elkyyeah03:12
maco(figuring if they new person with another language was misbehaving, our trusted person would speak up regarding how it translates)03:12
IdleOnewould I need to re-upload all the attachments also for the french version or will the links still work?03:32
IdleOnehttp://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Fran%C3%A7ais French version started :)03:38
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dkwow05:36
dkstill no women in sight05:36
czajkowskialoha06:31
jussi01Morning all!06:39
Dront-ru?!!09:14
Dront-ruau-au09:14
rwwo.O09:16
issyl0IdleOne: depends what you're translating, but probably, yeah, thanks!09:46
issyl0win 509:47
issyl0Grr09:47
Tm_Thi10:35
lauraczajkowskialoha10:38
Pendulumhiya lauraczajkowski :)10:39
Pendulumhow's the global jam going?10:39
lauraczajkowskigreat10:41
lauraczajkowski26 here so far10:41
lauraczajkowskiI'll try and tweet and pics when I can and when we get the streaming up I'll poke folks10:43
lauraczajkowski:)10:43
IdleOneissyl0: this is what i could use help with http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Fran%C3%A7ais11:47
elkyIdleOne, i think one of the first things you need to do is take a copy of the nav include and translate /that/11:55
elkyotherwise you're not going to have the glue11:55
IdleOneelky: yup. all I did yesterday was copy the page and upload the images.11:56
IdleOnethis weekend is a bit of a busy one so I will actually get started on it during the week. I am also going to ask/mention it to the ubuntu-qc folks today at the Jam.11:57
elkywhee!11:57
IdleOne:)11:57
elkythe folks there going "but it's so confusing gimme something eeeeeasy" should go fine with it, so long as they're not douchey11:58
IdleOneelky: sorry you lost me there :/12:02
elkyIdleOne, at the jam. if it's a typical gathering of this nature you'll have a few people who come along to try and help but end up just flailing12:04
IdleOneelky: I will mention it to them and give the link. anybody who wants to help is welcome. Even if all they do is translate one sentence it will be great12:06
IdleOneI am wondering is there a way to set it so edits to the page need to be approved?12:07
elkyYeah, that's kinda a problem with this kind of translating.12:07
elkyIdleOne, maybe dropping in to the translators channel and asking advice?12:09
IdleOneelky: I am asking because with a project like UW it of course attracts a lot of trolls and would hate to see some "stupid" translations put up :/12:10
elkyYeah, I know why you're asking. I just don't have the answer.12:10
elkyOf all the people who would, the people in the translators channel would, though.12:10
elkyor heck, the moinmoin channel even12:11
elkyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Translation12:13
IdleOnethank you12:13
IdleOneI will look into it12:13
elkydocs team seems to use rosetta ok by the looks of that page :-/12:14
akgraner*yawns* Good Morning and Happy Global Jam Weekend :-)13:57
IdleOneMorning :) and same to you13:58
akgranerthanks :-)14:00
Pendulumhiya14:28
akgranerPendulum, how's you today?14:32
akgranerSo any one want to pick a wiki page to work on )if it needs it  and tweak if in support and participation in Global Jam :-)14:33
Pendulumakgraner: sadly woke up quite ill :(14:35
akgranerPendulum, :-(14:35
akgranerI hope you feel better and it's nothing to serious14:35
Pendulumyeah, I'm going to try to maybe get some jam stuff done later, but I'm not pushing it14:35
akgranerno your health is so much more important14:37
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