[02:50] <elky> for reference before we start:
[02:50] <IdleOne> So yeah How do we get international UW teams involved in this channel?
 we really need to find a good way to bring all the international UW groups in to the folds
 yes I agree, the language barrier does limit access for a lot of women I am sure
 do any exist yet?
 I don't have any idea how we could accomplish that
[02:50] <elky> I think there's some channels
[02:50]  * elky goes to play scour the channel list
[02:52] <IdleOne> ok so /list was not helpful :/ and ugly looking to boot
[02:52] <IdleOne> heh
[02:52] <pleia2> probably want to /msg alis
[02:52] <elky> xchat being graphical it's a bit easier to work with
[02:53] <pleia2> but alis would only have registered channels, of course
[02:53] <elky> the problem is that "woman" isn't the same in all languages, funnily enough
[02:53] <pleia2> of course
[02:55] <IdleOne> well in french it is femme
[02:55] <IdleOne> but even that does not mean they have the word "woman" in the name
[02:56] <IdleOne> guess a thread on the loco teams mailing list might be a start asking people to join here
[02:59] <elky> I spot none in the list. I'd expect there to be at least one for de, es, fr, pt as they have extensive sub-namespaces, but there is nothing visible for those
[03:00] <IdleOne> tatica1 from the -hn team is go to person according to magifab
[03:00] <IdleOne> I could send a message asking her to join here and perhaps invite people she knows who are interrested
[03:01] <IdleOne> magicfab*
[03:01] <elky> I think we need to have a basic plan of what we want to ask of people before we go asking them
[03:01] <IdleOne> elky: yup, good idea
[03:02] <elky> we need a better way of organising the wiki translating too
[03:02] <elky> being monolingual means that my best guess wasn't really best anything :P
[03:03] <pleia2> yeah, we should ask a translations person
[03:03]  * pleia2 doesn't know either
[03:03] <elky> I think what we want is an internationalization sub team
[03:03]  * pleia2 nods
[03:04] <IdleOne> ok so basically a carbon copy of the wiki in different languages?
[03:04] <elky> IdleOne, ideally, yes.
[03:04] <elky> we may want to start it as a project in launchpad even, for managing it
[03:04]  * IdleOne will begin work on the french translation and ask issyl0 if she would like to help out :)
[03:05] <elky> \o/
[03:05] <IdleOne> not tonight though :P
[03:05] <IdleOne> but put me down for that
[03:05] <IdleOne> I would also ask that you and pleia2 kick me in the butt now and then if I begin to slack
[03:05] <elky> if youse can get a good skeleton structure, then we'll be rolling
[03:05] <IdleOne> :)
[03:05] <pleia2> IdleOne: mission accepted :P
[03:06] <IdleOne> you been trying to get to kick me for years now :P
[03:06] <elky> Also, an internationalisation footer to include in to the pages, so people can click a flag and be directed to their translation would /rock/
[03:06] <pleia2> the wiki has some #header things to help with language somehow
[03:06] <pleia2> but that's all voodoo to me
[03:06] <elky> pleia2, we need to find someone whose used it before then :)
[03:07] <IdleOne> wiki magic is voodoo to me also but I can learn.
[03:07]  * pleia2 nods
[03:07] <elky> i just find stuff that looks nice and steal it
[03:07] <elky> this might be a bit beyond that though
[03:10] <IdleOne> we might need to revise English, please
[03:10] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-women is an English language channel. If you speak in another language in #ubuntu-women, you will be redirected to the appropriate Ubuntu channels in other languages.
[03:10] <IdleOne> to make it a little more inclusive somehow
[03:10] <IdleOne> another thing to figure out
[03:11] <IdleOne> or more tollerant of other languages with enphasis on english
[03:12] <elky> well, we'd have to make some sub-channels. this is why a sub-team would be worthwhile
[03:12] <maco> we've let other languages go when we had someone who we trust that speaks that language around
[03:12] <maco> like russian when LucidFox is around
[03:12] <IdleOne> maco: true
[03:12] <elky> yeah
[03:12] <maco> (figuring if they new person with another language was misbehaving, our trusted person would speak up regarding how it translates)
[03:32] <IdleOne> would I need to re-upload all the attachments also for the french version or will the links still work?
[03:38] <IdleOne> http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Fran%C3%A7ais French version started :)
[05:36] <dk> wow
[05:36] <dk> still no women in sight
[06:31] <czajkowski> aloha
[06:39] <jussi01> Morning all!
[09:14] <Dront-ru> ?!!
[09:14] <Dront-ru> au-au
[09:16] <rww> o.O
[09:46] <issyl0> IdleOne: depends what you're translating, but probably, yeah, thanks!
[09:47] <issyl0> win 5
[09:47] <issyl0> Grr
[10:35] <Tm_T> hi
[10:38] <lauraczajkowski> aloha
[10:39] <Pendulum> hiya lauraczajkowski :)
[10:39] <Pendulum> how's the global jam going?
[10:41] <lauraczajkowski> great
[10:41] <lauraczajkowski> 26 here so far
[10:43] <lauraczajkowski> I'll try and tweet and pics when I can and when we get the streaming up I'll poke folks
[10:43] <lauraczajkowski> :)
[11:47] <IdleOne> issyl0: this is what i could use help with http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Fran%C3%A7ais
[11:55] <elky> IdleOne, i think one of the first things you need to do is take a copy of the nav include and translate /that/
[11:55] <elky> otherwise you're not going to have the glue
[11:56] <IdleOne> elky: yup. all I did yesterday was copy the page and upload the images.
[11:57] <IdleOne> this weekend is a bit of a busy one so I will actually get started on it during the week. I am also going to ask/mention it to the ubuntu-qc folks today at the Jam.
[11:57] <elky> whee!
[11:57] <IdleOne> :)
[11:58] <elky> the folks there going "but it's so confusing gimme something eeeeeasy" should go fine with it, so long as they're not douchey
[12:02] <IdleOne> elky: sorry you lost me there :/
[12:04] <elky> IdleOne, at the jam. if it's a typical gathering of this nature you'll have a few people who come along to try and help but end up just flailing
[12:06] <IdleOne> elky: I will mention it to them and give the link. anybody who wants to help is welcome. Even if all they do is translate one sentence it will be great
[12:07] <IdleOne> I am wondering is there a way to set it so edits to the page need to be approved?
[12:07] <elky> Yeah, that's kinda a problem with this kind of translating.
[12:09] <elky> IdleOne, maybe dropping in to the translators channel and asking advice?
[12:10] <IdleOne> elky: I am asking because with a project like UW it of course attracts a lot of trolls and would hate to see some "stupid" translations put up :/
[12:10] <elky> Yeah, I know why you're asking. I just don't have the answer.
[12:10] <elky> Of all the people who would, the people in the translators channel would, though.
[12:11] <elky> or heck, the moinmoin channel even
[12:13] <elky> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Translation
[12:13] <IdleOne> thank you
[12:13] <IdleOne> I will look into it
[12:14] <elky> docs team seems to use rosetta ok by the looks of that page :-/
[13:57] <akgraner> *yawns* Good Morning and Happy Global Jam Weekend :-)
[13:58] <IdleOne> Morning :) and same to you
[14:00] <akgraner> thanks :-)
[14:28] <Pendulum> hiya
[14:32] <akgraner> Pendulum, how's you today?
[14:33] <akgraner> So any one want to pick a wiki page to work on )if it needs it  and tweak if in support and participation in Global Jam :-)
[14:35] <Pendulum> akgraner: sadly woke up quite ill :(
[14:35] <akgraner> Pendulum, :-(
[14:35] <akgraner> I hope you feel better and it's nothing to serious
[14:35] <Pendulum> yeah, I'm going to try to maybe get some jam stuff done later, but I'm not pushing it
[14:37] <akgraner> no your health is so much more important
[19:20] <switchgirl> sudo shutdown -h +25        going down for earth hour