[00:21] Keybuk: in an Upstart world, what's most appropriate for something like Puppet to use to manipulate services? [00:21] service, or invoke-rc.d? [00:22] start for starting, stop for stopping, status for querying status. [00:23] Or alternatively initctl start, initctl stop, initctl status (which do the same thing). [00:24] ion: that won't help for a system that has hybrid Upstart and legacy init scripts [00:24] But yes, for a fully Upstart world, I can see that being the case [00:26] Oh nice, they seem to work with non-upstart jobs as well [01:23] http://news.opensuse.org/2010/03/25/opensuse-11-3-milestone-4-release/ [01:30] * Keybuk laughs at libnih on OBS [01:30] "It duplicates much of glib for no (really) good reason." [01:30] that's, seriously, the package description [01:45] Haha [03:09] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobject [03:09] ^^ I love it when wikipedians find subtle ways to inject their opinion (see image) [03:09] Hehe === pocek_ is now known as pocek === Md_ is now known as Md === Md is now known as Md_ === Md_ is now known as Md [18:56] hey [18:57] i'm wondering what the correct way is to start upstart jobs from a debian postinst hook [18:57] i'm using "start mytask", but that hangs [18:58] Let dh_installinit handle it. [18:58] i'm on maemo, there is no dh_installinit that can deal with upstart [18:59] at least as far as i can tell [18:59] I’d suggest cherrypicking the change from Ubuntu. [18:59] not really under my control :/ [19:00] Patches attached to bug trackers tend to be effective. [19:01] i wouldn't even know where to look [19:01] so, until such a change is in place, how would i start an upstart job? [19:06] Ubuntu’s installinit adds ‘start JOB || :’ to postinst. The hang you’re encountering needs to be debugged, though. Probably an issue with some ‘start on’ relation blocking. [19:09] oh meh. there is a "dh_installupstart" which is undocumented [19:11] i just have "start on startup" [19:15] And there’s no other job that has e.g. ‘start on starting YOURJOB and SOMETHINGELSE’? [19:15] no [19:15] i think it also got started [19:15] just start never returned [19:23] very strange. [19:24] start is running [19:41] so, it will start it [19:41] just it won't return === pocek_ is now known as pocek