[10:29] anyobody around? [10:56] highvoltage: hello? [11:09] there's always bodies around [11:13] Tm_T: :) === Guest35943 is now known as joerg [15:38] hi [15:45] is there a solution for regulating internet access for students? [15:45] the proprietary solution we have can do two things: you can (as a teacher) turn on and off the internet in a particular room [15:46] and you can give network access codes to students which are valid for a certain amount of time [15:50] joerg: hmm, do you mean is there a solution that comes with edubuntu? [15:51] no [15:51] I am just asking edubuntu people [15:51] because they might know if there is anything :P [15:51] joerg: oh, ok :) [15:53] I'm developing this portal / intranet solution for schools [15:53] and I prefer to integrate existing solutions than making something new [15:56] joerg: by regulating internet access, do you mean the amount students use it, or what they use it for [15:56] i.e. do you mean to stop them going on things like online games, or stop them using the internet too much? [15:58] I just described what I mean, didn't I? [15:58] joerg: yes you did, but i didnt fully understand, sorry :S, i get confused easily :/ [15:59] turn on and off the internet [15:59] ok, i see :) [15:59] that doesn't mean filter things like online games :P [15:59] no, it doesnt :P, i understand now ;) [16:03] joerg: i think that alot of tools that filter websites, also allow you to turn off and on the internet as you describe [16:03] but i dont know if any exist that just turn on/off the internet [17:05] highvoltage: did you get my email? [17:10] bencrisford: I did indeed! [17:10] bencrisford: yes, feel free to add items [17:12] highvoltage: ah ok great [17:12] there is a meeting this coming wednesday correct? [17:13] am i correct?* [17:15] bencrisford: that is correct [17:17] :) [17:29] hmm [17:29] and is there some open source room booking solution? [17:29] or resource booking in general? === nixternal_ is now known as Guest85874 === Guest85874 is now known as nixternal [18:37] highvoltage: i think i have fixed my first edubug since i re-installed ubuntu :D [19:17] bencrisford: which one is that? [19:21] highvoltage: its a typo in the kdeedu control file, but im getting errors when i debuild... [19:22] i was gona start out with a really really simple bug, but this is being quite troublesome :( [19:22] im getting these errors - http://pastebin.com/PQc1FwFk [19:23] its looking for patchsys-quilt.mk but i dont have it [19:23] even though i have cbds installed [19:23] highvoltage: any ideas? [19:23] did you do an apt-get build-dep kdeedu? [19:24] i dont think so.... [19:24] is that the problem highvoltage ? [19:24] it could be, you might be missing a build dependency. [19:24] highvoltage: this is the first bug fix ive done completely solo [19:25] before i had laserjock helping me out [19:28] no way.... [19:29] nixternal fixed it an hour ago [19:29] :( [19:29] heh :) [19:29] i should have assigned it to myself straight away, but i wanted to make sure i could do it [19:29] that sucks :P [19:29] which one was that btw? [19:30] bencrisford: ahh damn, I am sorry dude...I saw the email for the typo and just fixed it [19:30] oh right, yes [19:30] nixternal: haha, its fine, the main thing is that its fixed [19:30] and anyway, i got the educational value [19:30] :) [19:31] highvoltage: btw, getting the build deps worked, i got a gpg error, but i guess thats unrelated [19:31] so ty ;) [19:32] bencrisford: yep, that's normal if you don't have your gpg key set up and defined [19:32] i set up a new one for my new installation today [19:33] i couldnt remember the passphrase for my old one [embarrassed face], so i intend to find a way of de-activating it [19:34] highvoltage: how do i define my new one? [19:35] bencrisford: getting you a link... [19:36] highvoltage: i did everything i did last time i think [19:36] its on my lp.. in my .bashrc [19:36] bencrisford: ah so you have DEBEMAIL and DEBFULLNAME in your .bashrc? [19:37] highvoltage: no... :/ [19:37] then when you do the build command add -kyouremailaddress@blah.com [19:37] bencrisford: ok, add the following to your .bashrc: [19:37] export DEBEMAIL="your.email@host.com" [19:37] export DEBFULLNAME="First Last" [19:37] export GPGKEY=(key) - i have that line in there [19:37] do i need that last one? [19:38] it's useful to have it there, the other devscripts such as dch and others use it too [19:38] but it's not strictly necessary [19:39] ok, i think its all sorted [19:39] at the bottom of my .bashrc i have: [19:39] export DEBEMAIL="bencrisford@blahblahblahh..." [19:39] export DEBFULLNAME="Ben Crisford" [19:39] ok, then you'll either have to end your terminal session and start a new one or resource bash, or just paste that in your current terminal [19:40] end terminal session? u mean just close and open terminal? [19:42] and source ~/.bashrc ? [19:44] yep, when you open a new one it would have been sourced already [19:45] oh ok [19:45] highvoltage: if i apt-get source kdeedu again, will that overwrite my changes? [19:48] bencrisford: I believe so [19:48] ok ty [20:17] highvoltage: on my backup files i found a poster i made for edubuntu a few months ago [20:18] the poster is pretty useless, but the slogan-catchphrase thing i think is pretty neat [20:18] "Learn to love, and Love to Learn, with Edubuntu..." [20:35] bencrisford: cool! [20:48] highvoltage: is there a marketing team or anything for edubuntu? because if not i think thats a major issue to be addressed [20:48] we cant get new contributors if no-one knows how much we need them [20:50] bencrisford: there was an advocacy team ons for that but it's been dead for a long time [20:50] bencrisford: it could do with revival [20:50] highvoltage: shall i add it to the agenda for wednesday? [20:51] bencrisford: yep, if you have a proposal or idea :) [20:55] highvoltage: i added a couple of marketing suggestions ;) [20:56] discussion about a team, or re-structuring old one, and maybe joint projects with other teams like the students team [20:56] i think there are possibilities there that could be explored [21:50] highvoltage: in lucid, qcad doesnt appear in any menus [21:50] and needs to be run from terminal unless you manually add it to the menu [21:50] what would i change in order to fix this? [21:56] is it debian/qcad.menu [21:56] bencrisford: sounds right [21:56] there is a bit in there saying section="Applications/Science/Engineering" [21:56] bencrisford: it probably doesn't get copied to the right directory or there's a problem somewhere in the .desktop file [21:57] highvoltage: but could it just be that it wants to be found in the science>engineering section [21:57] which doesnt exist.. [21:57] at least by default anyway === crimsun_ is now known as crimsun [21:58] bencrisford: I think it would go into the most top-level section available [21:59] science is not a default menu [21:59] we have science [21:59] highvoltage: we do but it is also a normal ubuntu package [21:59] and i cant see it in science [21:59] which means you are correct about it being a .desktop file? [22:03] highvoltage: i think i may have found something... [22:04] http://pastebin.com/F43MWXzr - that is the contents of the desktop file [22:05] my gedit highlets the "Graphics" in red [22:05] what does this mean? [22:25] nixternal: dont suppose you happen to know what the red highlighting shown here means? - http://i44.tinypic.com/5vvyfs.png [22:33] highvoltage: did you see my screenie? [22:33] http://i44.tinypic.com/5vvyfs.png [22:34] then "Graphics" is highlighted red, no-one seems to know what that means, but surely it suggests an error [22:34] changing it to "Accessories" gets rid of the highlighting [22:34] but reentering graphics makes it come [22:34] bak [22:35] anyway, i need to go, later ;) [22:35] bencrisford: for gedit no, for vim that would mean either it is misspelled, or that Graphics isn't a valid category [22:35] nixternal: ah ok [22:36] as i said to highvoltage, Accessories does not get this highlighting [22:36] so it could be that in .desktop files Graphics has a different id? [22:37] im off for the night though [22:37] bencrisford: no idea, you'll probably find it in the rules for the gedit highlights [22:37] ok, goodnight! [22:37] highvoltage: geser suggested checking the .desktop specifications [22:37] i will do tommorrow [22:38] night all