[00:00] <vertago1> it would be interesting to make an index browser since the index is supposed to be some kind of graph
[00:53] <zus> how do i know that my gpg key is importrd properly?
[02:10] <vadim> hi
[02:14] <gottto> zus: try   gpg --list-keys    and see if it if listed
[02:14] <zus> yes  it is listed gotto
[02:21] <gunksta> rekonq question -- how do I get it to recognize favicons ? (Kubuntu 10.04)
[02:21] <gunksta> Googling hasn't helped me much.
[02:26] <Brhad56> whats new and cool in 10.4
[02:27] <gottto> you could ask in #ubuntu+1 maybe
[02:28] <gunksta> I like the updates to KDE. Feels smoother.
[02:28] <gunksta> Nepomuk et al. are running by default
[02:28] <gunksta> The beginnings of Akonadi
[02:29] <gunksta> But, I don't understand why Amarok, Akonadi, etc are using MySQL and Nepomuk is using Virtuoso. How many database systems do I need on a single computer?
[02:30] <Brhad56> 2
[02:34] <zus> how come in kde4.4 the facebook widget cannot find the facebook package required for the widet?
[02:38] <gunksta> Brhad56 -- Ha
[03:45] <krash> Anyone else having problems with vlc crashing with a seg fault or just me?
[03:52] <razed> hi everyone. i wanted to try out kubuntu netbook, so i installed it to an 8 gig SD card via a live cd... after install, though, my netbook will only boot into a grub rescue prompt. i can't seem to boot the live-cd again, nor can i get into my bios. anyone have any suggestions?
[03:56] <krash> razed: everyone seems 2b sleepin'... but I'd adventure to guess that you probably nead a kernel option thats not there...
[03:57] <krash> Like mine for instance, I have to do pci=nomsi or mine won't boot :P
[03:59] <razed> well, it boots immediately into the grub rescue. i don't have a chance to give it boot options. most of the solutions i've found via google and forum searches involve running the live-cd and fixing the grub configuration, but i don't have that option, apparently :/
[04:01] <razed> all it gives me is a black screen that says "GRUB loading. error: no such disk. grub rescue>"
[04:07] <krash> Yeah, you should be able to boot off a cd still...That's odd...
[04:11] <razed> well, it's a USB cd/dvd drive, so i suppose that might affect my being able to boot from it... but i still find it odd that i can't get into my bios settings
[04:15] <Xarver> I have a weird problem with my sound. It all of a sudden stopped working and when opening dragon player I get that my sound device does not work anymore
[04:16] <Xarver> in a message box
[04:26] <Morteza_K> hi everyone,i habe Ubuntu 9.10 and KDE 4.3.2,but it cannt mount cd,no problem in GNOME,anyone can help me?
[04:34] <Xarver> I have a weird problem with my sound. It all of a sudden stopped working and when opening dragon player I get that my sound device does not work anymore
[04:38] <Morteza_K> hi everyone,i have Ubuntu 9.10 and KDE 4.3.2,but it cannt mount cd,no problem in GNOME,anyone can help me?
[05:11] <Ites> nn all \o
[05:25] <Guest25986> saludos
[06:32] <Xarver> I have a weird problem with my sound. It all of a sudden stopped working and when opening dragon player I get that my sound device does not work anymore
[06:34]  * smatt454 is away: I'm busy
[06:37] <zus> how do i get ubuntu one on kubuntu?
[06:46] <bazhang> !ubuntuone
[06:53] <zus> bazhang, ty
[06:54] <zus> bazhang,  more specifically i have an account from when i used gnome, how do i get the folders on kubuntu?
[06:55] <bazhang> zus, best answers in #ubuntuone I am guessing (don't use it myself)
[06:57] <zus> bazhang, oh, sorry you did even post the link to the chan...:)
[07:19] <\ottizen> Is the beta stable? Of course it isn't, but is it "stable for usage", so I can use it in my normal life without too much errors? And can I upgrade to beta2 and finally the release from the package manager when I want?
[07:20] <bazhang> \ottizen, you can upgrade all the way yes, discussion and support in #ubuntu+1
[07:21] <\ottizen> bazhang: Thank you! :)
[08:30] <ruch> if anyone knows a solution for my SLOW Flash Player, please help me
[08:41] <antonio_> ola
[08:53] <apparle> !info libstdc++
[09:13] <hyp3r> Hy all, can some one help me ? i search a channel for developer (xcode, apple, iphone, objective-c) know some one a channel ?
[09:31] <kyriakos_> hello
[09:32] <kyriakos_> anyone tried to install itunes on ubuntu?>
[09:33] <kyriakos_> ??
[09:36] <Peace-> mouhahahahhaha
[10:22] <steveo> hello somebody from slovakia?
[10:25] <tsimpson> !sk
[10:26] <steveo> halo tak niekto s ke?
[10:47] <Newbee> hi all
[10:48] <Newbee> I have my backup-disk formated with ext4 now. But when I mount it via kde I am not allowed to write on it. With fat I was. What can I do about it?
[10:50] <mfraz74> what version of kubuntu are you using?
[10:55] <Ites> gm everyone \o
[11:15] <TheKro> i need some help: every time I log in to KDE, I get a message that plasma has crashed.  I have no menu, no system tray, no right-click menus, etc.
[11:16] <TheKro> ( i did some updates that needed a restart, and this has been happening since the restart)
[11:16] <steveo> try upgrade linux
[11:16] <steveo> again
[11:16] <mfraz74> is this with 9.10 and do you use any ppas?
[11:17] <TheKro> mfraz74: yes, I just added a ppa to try solve a timetracker bug. and yes, 9.10
[11:17] <mfraz74> which ppa?
[11:18] <TheKro> but i've disabled the ppa, and downgraded to the old time-tracker, because it didn't fix the bug
[11:18] <TheKro> kubuntu-ppa-backports-karmic.list
[11:18] <TheKro> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu karmic main
[11:20] <mfraz74> then you've probably installed kde 4.4.0, perhaps that broke something
[11:22] <TheKro> my konqueror says konqueror 4.3.5, kde 4.4.1
[11:22] <TheKro> mfraz74: so how do i fix it?
[11:24] <mfraz74> i'm not sure. you could try adding a ~ to the end of the plasma config files in ~/.kde/share/config/ so that they get recreated
[11:24] <TheKro> i've tried moving the .kde folder, but that didn't help at all
[11:24] <TheKro> just lost all my old config by accident :(
[11:25] <mfraz74> have you tried creating a new user?
[11:26] <TheKro> I can try logging in as a different user (will need to quit IRC)
[11:26] <mfraz74> ok
[11:29] <lalalol> hello everyone
[11:30] <TheKro> mfraz74: other user didn't help :(
[11:30] <mfraz74> i'm not sure then
[11:30] <TheKro> is there a way to downgrade my kde back to 4.3.5?
[11:31] <mfraz74> have you tried looking in the forums?
[11:32] <mfraz74> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8827843
[11:32] <TheKro> mfraz74: googled around a little, but most people say move the kde folder, and after they do that, it works
[11:32] <lalalol> can someone help me with openoffice on my machine please? id like to uninstall the package i now have, then use the ppa
[11:34] <lalalol> please?
[11:40] <lalalol> can someone help me with openoffice on my machine please? id like to uninstall the package i now have, then use the ppa
[11:40] <gottto> try   sudo apt-get purge soffice
[11:42] <\ottizen> Hello! I replaced Ubuntu 9.10 with Kubuntu 10.04 on my laptop. In Ubuntu, I had to install some "non-open-source"-driver for my wireless network card. I'd like to know where I can find the program which lets me search and install for non-open drivers. Thanks!
[11:43] <lalalol> gottto, what will purge soffice do?
[11:44] <gottto> lalalol: soffice is the name used for openoffice afaik and purge removes it and the configs
[11:44] <lalalol> ok gottto, and can you also give me the ppa for the stable releases?
[11:45] <gottto> lalalol: I was wrong - use openoffice instead of soffice...
[11:45] <gottto> maybe
[11:45] <lalalol> ok
[11:46] <gottto> lalalol: http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/773-upgrade-to-openofficeorg-32-final-in-ubuntu-karmic-koala-via-ppa-launchpad
[11:46] <lalalol> thx man :)
[11:46] <gottto> np
[11:47] <gottto> google is you're friend too
[11:49] <lalalol> uninstalling doesnt work though
[11:53] <gottto> lalalol: what's the error?
[11:54] <lalalol> Package openoffice.org is not installed, so not removed
[11:54] <lalalol> thats correct, there are 4 of the 6 progs preinstalled on kubuntu
[11:54] <gottto> lalalol: leave the   .org   off
[11:55] <lalalol> E: Couldn't find package openoffice
[11:57] <gottto> lalalol: can you use synaptic to remove it? - it might be easier
[11:57] <lalalol> opened synaptic, what now?
[11:58] <gottto> lalalol: hit the search button and type   openoffice
[11:58] <lalalol> got an insane list of things installed
[12:01] <gottto> lalalol: have a quick browse through to make sure it is all openoffice then right click one and select for complete removal - openoffice base would be my choice
[12:02] <lalalol> u mean basecore?
[12:02] <Ahmed\> Hello
[12:02] <Ahmed\> What's the difference between these two commands ? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and sudo apt-get install upgrade
[12:04] <gottto> lalalol: yep - it should take most the rest with it
[12:04] <Ahmed\> ?
[12:04] <lalalol> gottto, it doesnt select everything to remove
[12:05] <lalalol> why on earth is this so hard???
[12:05] <gottto> Ahmed\: dist-upgrade installs the latest kubuntu - and it is   sudo apt-get upgrade to get the latest packages for the current os
[12:05] <Tm_T> gottto: false
[12:05] <Ahmed\> HUH
[12:05] <gottto> lalalol: I did say most of the rest
[12:05] <gottto> Tm_T: got a better answer?
[12:06] <Tm_T> apt-get dist-upgrade is similar to apt-get upgrade, only difference is that dist-upgrade does suggest package additions and removals if needed
[12:06] <Ahmed\> Yes Tm_T you are right it shows few things i can uninstall from KDE etc
[12:07] <gottto> Tm_T: dist is short for distibution
[12:07] <Ahmed\> umm
[12:07] <Ahmed\> Thanks guys
[12:07] <Tm_T> so, apt-get upgrade upgrades already installed packages if possible, dist-upgrade upgrades the packages even if that means you need to install/remove other packages
[12:07] <Ahmed\> How to trace the host IP ? and why am i been asked that you should be a Super User to processed! ?
[12:08] <Ahmed\> True
[12:08] <Ahmed\> apt-get -s remove ? and this ?
[12:08] <oxymoron> Tm_T: Is it possible to remove grub from mbr someway?
[12:09] <Tm_T> !mbr
[12:09] <Tm_T> oxymoron: I wonder if there is any information
[12:10] <Ahmed\> brb later
[12:10] <oxymoron> Tm_T: I have read those guides, but I take another look ;) I want to completly remove grub and then reinstall it to mbr and to /boot/grub
[12:11] <Tm_T> oxymoron: hmm, I haven't dealt with those things much, sorry
[12:11] <oxymoron> Tm_T: Neither have I :P I know you can remove grub itself from partition, but remove from MBR I havent be able to do yet.
[12:12] <oxymoron> Tm_T: I think something is wrong with my grub2 that make the boot chain incomplete together with plymouth and lucid
[12:13] <Tm_T> oxymoron: disable plymouth, it has nothing to do with grub IIRC
[12:17] <oxymoron> Tm_T: Actually it has kind a, its hard to explain. But yeah plymouth itself isnt part of grub I knmow ;)
[12:22] <oxymoron> Anybody else?
[12:25] <lalalol> why didnt my clock update to summer time?
[12:39] <oxymoron> I have installed grub 1.98 but when do grub-install -v I got (grub-install (GNU GRUB 1.97+experimental), is that correct? :S
[12:40] <fabio333> i get grub-install (GNU GRUB 1.98~20100128-1ubuntu4)
[12:51] <TheKro> I'm struggling with kde bug 231995 - the solution says I should install plasma-desktop, but there doesn't seem to be such a package...
[14:08] <steveo> sht some girls here or what?
[14:09] <bazhang> steveo, wrong channel
[14:09] <steveo> yeah i see
[14:51] <matflasch> hi
[14:51] <matflasch> english channel?
[14:52] <matflasch> I got a problem. I just installed kubuntu 9.10. Everything works great. Also my digital sound with s/pdif and dolby digital and dts...
[14:53] <matflasch> But the flash-plugin (version 10 from the repositories) doesn't play any sound.. where could be the problem?
[14:54] <matflasch> I switched everything to the digital interface (s/pdif) for playback, it is the only cable, which ist connected.
[14:54] <matflasch> i switched it in kde properties. could not get any sound with flash :/
[14:54] <matflasch> is this problem known?
[14:55] <matflasch> I couldn't figure out, where to search for a fix on this problem
[15:02] <mistrynitesh> mistrynitesh: hi!
[15:07] <mistrynitesh> mistrynitesh: hello
[15:07] <mistrynitesh> :(
[15:09] <mistrynitesh> ubottu: shout | mistrynitesh
[15:14] <freinhard> hi!
[15:15] <freinhard> anyone else with amarok 2.3 on lucid? can't tag mp3's
[15:16] <James147> freinhard: #ubuntu+1 for lucid support
[15:22] <matflasch> hmm, finally got sound. but i don't know why ;)
[15:58] <freinhard> is there a tool to migrate a kde installation?
[15:58] <vbgunz> anybody use python? is the python markdown module available in the repos perhaps by another name?
[15:59] <vbgunz> I got it
[16:07] <Benkinooby> hi sometimes kubuntu get's tuck at bootup. i have to a key, then it proceeds. how can i see what kubuntu was waiting for? or should i wait for the new release (end of april, right?) wich might be more stable because it is a LTS version?
[16:07] <Benkinooby> tuck = stuck
[16:07] <Benkinooby> i have to press a key, then... sorry my bad typing
[16:10] <James147> Benkinooby: hmm, only thing I can think that might be causeing that is a diskcheck... but usually it tells you its doing that
[16:11] <Benkinooby> James147: yes, it also does diskchecks, but as you said, i can see the indication...
[16:12] <James147> Benkinooby: you could try recovery mode... might tell you more info but might not catch the problem. Not sure what else to suggest
[16:55] <Mene> schreibt hier auch jemand??? ^^^^
[16:55] <kaniini> Mene:
[16:56] <ravin> ppl where can i get russian speakers support?
[16:56] <kaniini> perhaps #kubuntu-ru ?
[16:56] <kaniini> not sure though
[16:57] <James147> !ru
[17:01] <Frussif> herro everyone
[17:01] <Frussif> I have a little question..
[17:01] <xSixsIxsiXx> lol
[17:01] <xSixsIxsiXx> herro
[17:01] <Frussif> I tried kubuntu live cd yesterday.. and I realized that I wasn't able to ctrl+tab
[17:02] <Frussif> in the browser for example
[17:02] <xSixsIxsiXx> alt tab:)
[17:02] <Frussif> neh that's not really what I want
[17:02] <Frussif> if you're browsing
[17:02] <Frussif> and you have multiple tabs
[17:02] <xSixsIxsiXx> aaah
[17:02] <xSixsIxsiXx> ok
[17:02] <Frussif> ctrl tab didnt work :p
[17:03] <xSixsIxsiXx> in firefox?
[17:03] <Frussif> neh in the native browser
[17:03] <xSixsIxsiXx> ooh
[17:03] <Frussif> qonqeur or something
[17:03] <xSixsIxsiXx> i never use it lol
[17:03] <Frussif> yeah I was on the live cd so :p
[17:03] <xSixsIxsiXx> what version of ubuntu
[17:03] <Frussif> kubuntu 9.10
[17:03] <Mene> hier schreibt man nur ausländisch nein das kann ich nicht bin schweizerin
[17:03] <xSixsIxsiXx> lol it should have firfox installed
[17:03] <Frussif> also also !
[17:04] <Frussif> aha
[17:04] <Frussif> well that wasnt the case
[17:04] <Frussif> but ctrl tab didnt work in kopete either
[17:04] <Frussif> with multiple chat screen
[17:04] <xSixsIxsiXx> hmm
[17:04] <xSixsIxsiXx> i dont use that either lol
[17:04] <xSixsIxsiXx> sirry
[17:04] <xSixsIxsiXx> so*
[17:05] <Frussif> but it isnt a kubuntu-thing
[17:05] <rork> Frussif: by default Konquerer uses Ctrl+, and Ctfl+. to move to the previous/next tab
[17:05] <Frussif> ahaa
[17:05] <xSixsIxsiXx> thanks
[17:05] <Frussif> thanks
[17:05] <Frussif> thats why It didnt work :p
[17:05] <xSixsIxsiXx> i use fireffffox lol
[17:05] <Frussif> but its editable ? :p
[17:05] <xSixsIxsiXx> anyone here use backtrack4?
[17:05] <rork> Frussif: but in KDE software almost every keybind can be set Top menu > Settings > Configure Shortcuts
[17:06] <Frussif> ahaa ok
[17:06] <Frussif> nice to know
[17:06] <Frussif> Now I'm ready for kubuntu :p
[17:06] <rork> good that I could pull you over the line ^^
[17:07] <Frussif> the kde interface is also much nicer
[17:11] <rork> I was thinking,  much nicer compared to what?
[17:20] <Frussif> rork, gnome :p
[17:22] <FremenBlue> hey, you guys, if i install libboost-program-options 1.40, should i remove the 1.38 version to prevent conflicts?
[17:33] <fluppi> hallo
[17:43] <Mene> fluppi sprichst du deutsch und bist noch hier am chat???^^^
[17:45] <human> rr
[17:57] <JunkNUtz> hey all
[17:58] <JunkNUtz> does anyone here have a Sound Blaster Xfi?
[18:14] <hazamonzo> Hey folks. I need a little hlpe to mount a failing raid array. Ive been trying for the las tcouple of days with alot of googling but im not getting very far. In fact i think im doing more damage than good. I think one of the HDs in the array is having problems and that causing the whole system to mount. I don't really want to go into a huge amount of detail here unless someone thinks they might have the timeto help me
[18:14] <hazamonzo>  fix this :)
[18:14] <hazamonzo> Any takers? :D
[18:16] <Pavel_S> Hi. I can't lesten to sound from FireFox or another application then amarok is on. Sound also has gone then power adaptor plug out or plu in. Any advises?
[18:29]  * hazamonzo sobs
[18:30] <pepee> I want to disable the screensaver, as its said here: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=35085
[18:31] <pepee> but powerdevil is not running...
[18:33] <pepee> how can i enable it? is there another way to disable the screensaver? (doesn't work setting it on Desktop settings...)
[18:38] <pepee> can someone help me?
[18:41] <bexamous__> u using 10.04?
[18:41] <bexamous__> log out and log back in
[18:41] <bexamous__> maybe you have to restart x, i forget
[18:41] <bexamous__> except htat, dispite disabling screensaving, it kept turning on
[18:41] <pepee> yeah 10.4
[18:42] <pepee> but i'm using powersaved
[18:42] <bexamous__> i just rebooted and it stayed off
[18:44] <pepee> you mean, after turning the screen saver off?
[18:44] <Ites> hi guys
[18:44] <Ites> i had to reboot pc by putting off the power, i started pc again and now no sound is working at all
[18:45] <Ites> what should i do?
[18:45] <gen_fool> I have kubuntu 9.10 live cd booted   I need to use gparted, kdesu gparted is not working    any ideas?
[18:49] <James147> gen_fool: try kdesudo
[18:49] <Pavel_S> just run gparted
[18:49] <Pavel_S> you don't need sudo
[18:52] <gen_fool> James147,  that is the command it almost starts and errors out now, no info in terminal   :(
[18:55] <James147> gen_fool: try want Pavel_S said and check it is actually installed... I remember neededing to install it first :S
[18:57] <gen_fool> James147,  thanks, I just need to wipe the drive to create a dual boot,  is linux only and windows fails on loading cause of grub.
[19:01]  * smatt454 is back (gone 12:27:32)
[19:03] <gen_fool> James147,  let me rephrase that, xpee disk fails to load cause of the linux fs.  will just use fdisk to blow it away.
[19:04] <Ites> cya all
[19:06] <tux_> f
[19:06] <tux_> f1
[19:07] <marrandy> Is there a GUI for setting up the monitor/graphics resolutions aka x.org ?
[19:09] <marrandy> Anyone ?
[19:11] <James147> marrandy: for what graphics card?
[19:12] <marrandy> nvidia
[19:13] <James147> marrandy: "kdesudo nvidia-settings"
[19:13] <Tm_T> pepee: open konsole and run this command: ps aux | grep screen
[19:13] <marrandy> in pclinuxos I would just type video, that that soft linked to XFdrake
[19:13] <pepee> /usr/bin/xscreensaver -nosplash
[19:14] <pepee> heh, Tm_T i'l kill it
[19:15] <marrandy> James147:  thanks I'll try that
[19:18] <pepee> thanks Tm_T
[19:18] <pepee> it works now :D
[19:23] <gregg> is there anything other than amarok that will keep my music organized? amarok's not making it very easy and i'm losing my hari...
[19:23] <gregg> *hair
[19:24] <tew88> Is it possible (I'm sure it is) to "sleep" - i.e. to suspend the session to RAM - from the command line?
[19:25] <marrandy> cONTROL DISPLAY IS UNDEFINED
[19:28] <marrandy>  James147:  control display is undefined
[19:29] <Tm_T> pepee: you also might like to find out why it's running
[19:29] <lalalol> f*** skype!!!!!!!!!! :@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[19:31] <gregg> hmmm - does EasyTag also organize music as well as edit the tags??
[19:31] <snarkfish> morning, what are the plus and minus signs on the desktop icons mean, when in folder view mode?
[19:33] <goalador> you can select/deselect them by clicking on them...
[19:33] <snarkfish> oh for multi-select
[19:34] <goalador> its a nice function if you use a pen(tablet pc)
[19:34] <goalador> jup
[19:34] <snarkfish> ok ok thanx
[19:34] <goalador> welcome
[19:35] <snarkfish> one more question about plasmoids.. I have a few that fail to start but very little information about why they arent starting.. is there a log of why it failed?
[19:36] <goalador> good question, probably there is but i don't know...
[19:36] <snarkfish> ok.. thanx.. have a good day
[19:36] <goalador> u2
[19:38]  * smatt454 is away: I'm busy
[19:38] <fumanchu182> I start with gnome on the default ubuntu, If I go to tasksel and install Kubuntu are there any additional files I may have to worry about?
[19:38] <tsimpson> !away > smatt454
[19:38] <fumanchu182> s/start/started/g
[19:39] <tsimpson> fumanchu182: I'd recommend just installing the "kubuntu-desktop" package, that'll get everything
[19:39] <fumanchu182> I can do that from apt-get is that the preferred method?  Is there any difference from using tasksel?
[19:40] <tsimpson> I'm not sure, but I think tasksel just installs all the packages separately, but not the meta-package "kubuntu-desktop"
[20:00] <Zorba> Hello everybody. A friend of mine has a notebook with Kubuntu 9.10, and have many problems with the video driver: the computer is an ASUS M50Vn with a graphic card NVIDIA  geforce 9650m GT. searching on internet we found out that it is a known bug, but the only solution is to use drivers version 173. Anyway, with those drivers graphics is VERY SLOW, quite unuseful.  Someone in a forum post said that there were no problems with Kubuntu 9.04. So I'm asking...
[20:00] <Zorba>  does anyone know how to make propietary drivers work good?
[20:04] <zus> i found i can group my windows and have xchat firefox and ktorrent on tabs,  now how can i group the panel say i have two windows with 3 tabs i'd like to have two icons in the panel  with the tabbed windows respectivly?
[20:12] <James147> zus: Not sure that is possible
[20:14] <zus> James147,  it would be a great idea... i cant though seem to put chrome  in the tabs though...
[20:15] <James147> zus: heh, no seems to cause kwin to crash... although...
[20:16] <zus> everywhere i click on chrome is an option for the browser not to put in the group.
[20:18] <James147> zus: You can if you use the kwin border in chrome (spanner -> options -> Personal Stuff -> "Use system title bar and borders" | then make sure that chrome has borders if not Alt+F3 -> Advanced -> Uncheck "No border"
[20:18] <James147> zus: use Alt+F3 to activate the kwin menu for the window
[20:19] <zus> shiny! what where is spanner?
[20:21] <James147> zus: its the icon that looks like a spanner in chrome, next to the one that looks like a ppage (the only two buttons on the default chrom window)
[20:21] <zus> James147,  gotchya, i clicked the wrong thing at first...
[20:25] <zus> hrmm one sec i just crashed it, but i got what you explained. the system boarder is there...
[20:25] <ybit> any ideas on how to get this annoying bar on the top removed? for some reason the kubuntu-netbook stuff starts and i have to close it's window.. the bar is hidden mostly, but it's still annoying: http://bayimg.com/image/falmcaaci.jpg
[20:27] <James147> ybit: can you not right click it and remove panel?
[20:28] <zus> James147,  im all set with todays exploration of kubutnu! thanks.
[20:29] <James147> ybit: or you could try killing plasma-netbook - "kquitapp plasma-netbook" - if its the netbook panel
[20:29] <ybit> James147: nope, i right click and nothing happens, it's how i got all those little note icons..i couldn't right click and get a menu so i tried middle clicking ...a bunch
[20:29] <ybit> James147: that works
[20:30] <ybit> this is one broken kde installation :P
[20:30] <James147> :S if you dont want to use the netbook edition you could remove it
[20:30] <ybit> when i start up, i'll now have to killall plasma-netbook knetworkmanager && nm-applet :P
[20:33] <James147> ybit: :) try removing "kubuntu-netbook-default-settings" had problems with nether plasma worspace starting... that fixed it might help with one of your problems
[20:34] <James147> ybit: not sure how to get knetworkmanager to not start up, but you can always create a script with "kquitapp knetworkmanager && nm-applet" in it and place it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[20:35] <James147> ybit: at least then you dont have to manaully run the commands every boot
[20:52] <pair0doc> is there a way to save a file as tab delimited in OOo kubuntu is not allowing me to check "Edit filter settings" ?
[20:55] <ollomol> proba
[20:56] <ollomol> me caxchis en mahoma
[21:00] <apparle> which filesystem should I choose for storing data
[21:02] <kaitos> apparle: ext3 should be fine for whatever you need to do
[21:03] <apparle> kaitos: what other options do I have other than ext4
[21:06] <kaitos> apparle: you can use any that are in the ubuntu kernel build
[21:06] <apparle> kaitos: I mean which are good and when to use which one
[21:06] <Heliwr> apparle, xfs is often the better choice for very large files
[21:07] <Heliwr> for general purpose though you probably just want to stick with ext3/ext4
[21:09] <sudokode> ext2, ext3, ext4, xfs, jfs, reiserfs, btrfs, nilfs, HFS+, ntfs, ntfs-3g
[21:09] <sudokode> ntfs-3g and zfs through fuse
[21:12] <jovis> how would i use something like lsof to see what files a process is just trying to open but fails?
[21:13] <jovis> if said process only tries it once and not over and over
[21:46] <zus> any one use a wireless mouse with finger print reader?  i was just given one...its nice looking.. though its micro soft, would it work in linux?
[21:46] <zus> have to get batteries before i can even try it myself so im asking ... thanks
[21:55] <Typos_King> sure
[22:02] <Nonickname-> Hey, I have Ubuntu and Kubuntu 9.04 I cannot detect any wireless networks, I can only have wired connection.. I have updated/upgraded both, but still not working.
[22:02] <Nonickname-> Can anyone help?
[22:03] <Nonickname-> I downloaded the 9.10 but it seems its corrupted..
[22:05] <gottto> Nonickname-: see if this helps
[22:05] <gottto> !bcm
[22:11] <Typos_King> l..
[22:11] <Typos_King> Nonickname-:    what does -> lspci; show, can you pastebin it, to say paste2.org or so
[22:12] <Nonickname-> Typos_King: http://pastebin.com/1sJTym4k
[22:12] <Typos_King> ok
[22:15] <v1ttu_> anyone else had problems settings custom covers in amarok?
[22:16]  * Typos_King uses audacious
[22:18] <v1ttu_> audacious?
[22:19] <pepee> anyone knows how to fix this? http://pastebin.com/AzkEEScn
[22:19] <Typos_King> http://www.netswarm.net/screenshots/audacious-icons.png
[22:22] <Nonickname-> Hey..  my kernal says: kernel 2.6.28-18-generic Typos_King
[22:24] <Typos_King> ok
[22:25] <Typos_King> Nonickname-:    what about lspci?
[22:25] <Nonickname-> What do u mean?
[22:26] <zus> in dolphin when pushing f4...the terminal opens on the bottom of the window, very nice...does it change directories as i change folders? for when i "open in terminal" or is that just a terminal i'd still have to change directories in the terminal?
[22:26] <Typos_King> Nonickname-:    as in, do an -> lspci
[22:27] <Nonickname-> shall I pastebin it Typos_King?
[22:27] <Typos_King> it'll show what your wirless card chipset is, and thus what driver might be needed if needed at all
[22:27] <Typos_King> yeah, pastebin it please
[22:28] <Nonickname-> Typos_King: http://pastebin.com:80/qwERpj0n
[22:29] <Typos_King> !details | pepee
[22:30] <pepee> hmm kubuntu lucid, this happens after the upgrade from karmic
[22:30] <Nonickname-> Do i have to update kernel Typos_King ?
[22:31] <Typos_King> don't think so
[22:31] <Typos_King> !lucid | pepee
[22:31] <pepee> heh
[22:31] <Nonickname-> Wireless works well on 9.10 ;/
[22:32] <pepee> I already asked in there, but no one could help me
[22:32] <pepee> same for #ubuntu
[22:32] <Typos_King> Nonickname-:    I was under the impression that IS what's not working and that IS what you have, 9.1
[22:32] <Typos_King> pepee:   is most times better to do a full install than an upgrade :)
[22:32] <Typos_King> not to mention they're in beta1 for now, so
[22:32] <pepee> that's the microsoft solution
[22:33] <Nonickname-> Typos_King: Ive used 9.10 but gave me kernel error.. and crashed my system..
[22:33] <Nonickname-> So i had to remove it..
[22:33] <Nonickname-> That for ubuntu.
[22:33] <pepee> "buy more memory" "reinstall" "buy another hdd"
[22:33] <Nonickname-> And I downloaded Kubuntu, it gave me error while isntalling ..
[22:34] <Typos_King> Nonickname-:    soo, kubuntu 9.1 never installed?
[22:34] <Typos_King> hehe
[22:34] <Typos_King> pepee:   not always hehe
[22:34] <Nonickname-> Ubuntu was installed, and it gave errors..
[22:35] <Typos_King> Nonickname-:    sooo, what are you trying to fix?
[22:35] <Nonickname-> Then I downloaded kubuntu but the copy was damaged..
[22:35] <Nonickname-> I am tryin to get my wireless working :/
[22:35] <Typos_King> pepee:   you can always give a whirl to -> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg;
[22:35] <pepee> hehe
[22:36] <Typos_King> Nonickname-:    seem to me, you haven't been able to install kubuntu yet, why bother with the wireless?
[22:37] <Nonickname-> I am on Kubuntu 9.04 now.
[22:38] <Nonickname-> And using a wired connection.
[22:38] <Typos_King> ooook... sooouse that then :)
[22:38] <pepee> Nonickname-, install wicd
[22:38] <Typos_King> to download the 9.1, no that I'd bother really, from 9.04
[22:38] <Nonickname-> I cant use wired network all the time..
[22:38] <Nonickname-> Whats wicd?
[22:38] <pepee> an app
[22:39] <Nonickname-> sudo apt-get install wicd ?
[22:40] <pepee> yep
[22:40] <pepee> or better: sudo aptitude install wicd
[22:40] <Typos_King> ...
[22:40] <Typos_King> I see
[22:40] <Nonickname-> installin it
[22:40] <Typos_King> you just don't have a network manager?
[22:40] <Typos_King> I'd rather side with network-manager-gnome
[22:41] <Typos_King> but anyhow
[22:41] <Nonickname-> I installed it pepee
[22:41] <pepee> now run wicd-client
[22:42] <Nonickname-> bash: run: command not found
[22:42] <Nonickname-> ok.. i run it
[22:42] <pepee> hehe
[22:42] <pepee> wicd-<tab>
[22:43] <Nonickname-> Ok, i opened it
[22:44] <pepee> well, try setting your wireless connection
[22:45] <navetz> guys my keyboard wont work when I start X, can someone help me fix it?
[22:45] <Nonickname-> It says no wireless network found
[22:45] <Nonickname-> my wireless is enabled
[22:46] <Typos_King> Nonickname-:    if you run -> iwconfig; does it show any wireless interface?
[22:46] <Typos_King> navetz:    replug it in :)
[22:47] <Nonickname-> no wireless extentions
[22:47] <navetz> Typos_King: its a laptop
[22:48] <pepee> Nonickname-, ^
[22:48] <Nonickname-> what?
[22:48] <Typos_King> ok....
[22:48] <pepee> it's a laptop, USB, ...?
[22:49] <Typos_King> Nonickname-:    and you'rre sure you have a wireless adapter in your motherboard?
[22:49] <Nonickname-> yeah man!
[22:49] <Nonickname-> its working on win7
[22:49] <navetz> the keyboard is attached to my laptop, not an external one
[22:49] <pepee> Nonickname-, then is a driver issue
[22:50] <Typos_King> ok
[22:50] <Typos_King> navetz:   can you use your touchpad?
[22:50] <Nonickname-> How come it was working fine on 9.10? ;/
[22:50] <navetz> Typos_King: yes, its works when i don't start xserver
[22:50] <navetz> Typos_King: the keyboard that is
[22:50] <navetz> Typos_King: the touchpad always works
[22:50] <zus> do i need an unrar program in kubuntu 9.10 kde4.4? i cant extract a file
[22:51] <Typos_King> Nonickname-:     check under System Settings > Advanced > Restricted Drivers, if anything is there for your card
[22:51] <pepee> Nonickname-, because 9.10 has better support for wireless devices
[22:51] <Typos_King> zus:    yes
[22:52] <zus> there isnt a default one? like in nautilus. whats a decent program that would then extract and compress?
[22:52] <pepee> Nonickname-, lspci | grep -Ei "network|wireless"
[22:52] <pepee> zus, ark
[22:52] <pepee> just install the unrar package
[22:53] <Nonickname-> pepee: moe@ubuntu:~$ lspci | grep -Ei "network|wireless"
[22:53] <Nonickname-> 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation WiFi Link 100 Series
[22:53] <Typos_King> zus:     eh?  is not what you asked :|,    kubuntu comes with ark, but it may need the unrar package to open .rar archives
[22:54] <zus> Typos_King,  oh, i see.  willl that be found in the kpackagekit?
[22:54] <Typos_King> zus:     unrar, yes
[22:54] <pepee> Nonickname-, http://www.google.com/search?q=jaunty+"Intel+Corporation+WiFi+Link+100+Series"&hl=en&num=30
[22:55] <Typos_King> Nonickname-:     check under System Settings > Advanced > Restricted Drivers, if anything is there for your card
[22:55] <Nonickname-> Nothing Typos_King
[22:55] <Typos_King> ok...
[22:56] <pepee> Typos_King, IIRC intel driver for wireless devices is open source
[22:56] <zus> whats the difference betewen the  non free and the not non-free?
[22:56] <Typos_King> Nonickname-:     you can try installing firstly the backport modules, and then the restricted modules... or both ->    sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules linux-restricted-modules;
[22:57] <pepee> Nonickname-, do what Typos_King says
[22:57] <Nonickname-> ok
[22:57] <Nonickname-> i will
[22:57] <Typos_King> Nonickname-:     then when done  you might need to reboot and see if the hardware gets probed and picked up
[22:58] <Typos_King> zus:     license
[22:59] <Nonickname-> sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules linux-restricted-modules;
[22:59] <Nonickname-> this in terminal?
[22:59] <Typos_King> yes
[23:00] <Nonickname-> moe@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules linux-restricted-modules;
[23:00] <Nonickname-> Reading package lists... Done
[23:00] <Nonickname-> Building dependency tree
[23:00] <Nonickname-> Reading state information... Done
[23:00] <Nonickname-> E: Couldn't find package linux-backports-modules
[23:00] <FloodBotK3> Nonickname-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:00] <Nonickname-> sorry ;/
[23:00] <zus> Typos_King,  so they do the same exact thing  if i were to accept the license?
[23:00] <Typos_King> zus:     yes
[23:00] <zus> im also looking to get my thumb print reader to work how do i find out its  drivers to do so?
[23:01] <zus> Typos_King,  thank you for the info on the unrar, id'a been one mad mofo if i couldnt open my music lol
[23:01] <Nonickname-> Typos_King: did u get what I said above?
[23:01] <Typos_King> Nonickname-:     what about the restricted ones?
[23:02] <Nonickname-> wait
[23:02]  * Typos_King checks the repository
[23:02] <Nonickname-> ok.. I guess it installed them
[23:02] <Typos_King> ok
[23:03] <Typos_King> now try ->  sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-generic;
[23:03] <Typos_King> apt-get takes <tab> for autocomplete you know
[23:04] <Nonickname-> E: Couldn't find package linux-backports-modules-generic
[23:04] <Typos_King> ok
[23:04] <aljosa> i've just update lucid and lost video playback (every time i start video) xorg/kdm restarts. is there an easy way to update apt sources to -24h?
[23:04] <Typos_King> retry using the autocomplete <tab>   what options  does it have?
[23:04] <Nonickname-> when do i press tab?
[23:05] <Typos_King> to autocomplete a word :|
[23:05] <Nonickname-> I know
[23:05] <Nonickname-> but for apt-get ?
[23:05] <Typos_King> okk    fairly sure it'd have at least linux-backports-
[23:05] <Nonickname-> E: Couldn't find package linux-backports-modules-generic
[23:06] <pepee> apt-cache search backport
[23:06] <Nonickname-> i pressed tab..
[23:06] <Typos_King> heheh
[23:06] <Typos_King> you didn't press that, otherwise you'd not get the error ^_^
[23:06] <Typos_King> that was what the tab was for :}
[23:06] <Nonickname-> I really did..
[23:06] <Typos_King> press tab rather
[23:06] <Nonickname-> Shall I update my kubuntu from 9.04 to 9.10 ?
[23:07] <pepee> again, apt-cache search linux-backport
[23:07] <Typos_King> I don't think there's any need
[23:07] <Typos_King> yeah, so a cache search for backports or so
[23:07] <Nonickname-> done..
[23:07] <Typos_King> and?
[23:07] <pepee> what does it says?
[23:08] <Nonickname-> lot of lines like this : linux-headers-lbm-2.6.28-18-server - Header files related to linux-backports-modules version 2.6.28
[23:08] <Typos_King> server?
[23:08] <Nonickname-> and generic
[23:08] <phoenix_> hello everyone
[23:08] <Typos_King> allo
[23:08] <pepee> apt-cache search linux-backport generic 2.6.28
[23:08] <pepee> hola
[23:09] <Nonickname-> many lines like: linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-18-generic - Ubuntu supplied Linux modules for version 2.6.28 on x86/x86_64
[23:09] <pepee> sudo aptitude install linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-18-generic
[23:09] <pepee> oh wait
[23:10] <pepee> sudo aptitude install linux-backports-modules-`uname -r`
[23:11] <Nonickname-> installing
[23:12] <Nonickname-> ok pepee installation is done..
[23:13] <pepee> now sudo rmmod iwlagn
[23:13] <Nonickname-> done
[23:13] <pepee> now sudo modprobe iwlagn
[23:13] <Nonickname-> Error inserting iwlcore (/lib/modules/2.6.28-18-generic/updates/iwlcore.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[23:13] <Nonickname-> FATAL: Error inserting iwlagn (/lib/modules/2.6.28-18-generic/updates/iwlagn.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[23:13] <pepee> heh
[23:13] <pepee> reboot
[23:14] <Nonickname-> ok
[23:14] <Nonickname-> just a sec..
[23:14] <pepee> k
[23:17] <Nonickname-> yeah am back pepee
[23:17] <pepee> k
[23:17] <pepee> iwconfig
[23:17] <Nonickname-> no wireless extentions
[23:17] <pepee> hehe
[23:17] <pepee> well, try karmic or lucid lol
[23:18] <Nonickname-> what do u mean
[23:18] <pepee> nah
[23:18] <pepee> hmm lsmod | grep iwlagn
[23:19] <pepee> *hmm is not a command...
[23:19] <Nonickname-> iwlagn                102788  0
[23:19] <Nonickname-> iwlcore               112768  1 iwlagn
[23:19] <Nonickname-> lbm_cw_mac80211       227492  2 iwlagn,iwlcore
[23:19] <Nonickname-> lbm_cw_cfg80211        73888  3 iwlagn,iwlcore,lbm_cw_mac80211
[23:19] <FloodBotK3> Nonickname-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:20] <pepee> well, it's running
[23:20] <pepee> ifconfig
[23:20] <pepee> !paste | Nonickname-
[23:20] <Nonickname-> how can I update from 9.04 to 9.10 using a 9.10 cd?
[23:21] <pepee> Nonickname-, there is a command for doing that
[23:21] <Nonickname-> I dont wanna do it online
[23:21] <Nonickname-> Doing it onlike is like 900mb.
[23:21] <Nonickname-> And i dont have a fast connection..
[23:22] <Nonickname-> how can I access my folders in win7 using Kubuntu?
[23:22] <Typos_King> heheh
[23:23] <Typos_King> just fire up dolphin :)
[23:23] <Nonickname-> whats that lol
[23:23] <pepee> Nonickname-, ext2fs or something like that
[23:23] <Typos_King> ..
[23:24] <Typos_King> Nonickname-:      can you got to /etc/apt/  and in kate open up sources.list?
[23:24] <pepee> Nonickname-, ifconfig -a
[23:24] <pepee> post it in pastebin
[23:25] <Nonickname-> http://pastebin.com/bQJDKmmf
[23:29] <pepee> Nonickname-, dmesg | grep iwl
[23:30] <Nonickname-> http://pastebin.com/19bKf2r8
[23:31] <pepee> sudo aptitude install linux-firmware
[23:31] <Nonickname-> done
[23:32] <pepee> sudo rmmod iwlagn iwlcore lbm_cw_mac80211 lbm_cw_cfg80211
[23:33] <Nonickname-> done
[23:33] <pepee> sudo modprobe iwlagn
[23:34] <Nonickname-> done
[23:34] <pepee> iwconfig
[23:34] <Nonickname-> no wireless extentions..
[23:35] <Nonickname-> seems am out of choices but to update for 9.10
[23:35] <pepee> Nonickname-, last one: dmesg | grep iwl
[23:35] <Typos_King> Nonickname-:      can you got to /etc/apt/  and in kate open up sources.list?
[23:36] <Typos_King> and maybe check if your backports repository entry isn't commented out
[23:36] <Nonickname-> wait
[23:37] <Nonickname-> http://pastebin.com/SffLW8ZX
[23:37] <Nonickname-> Typos_King:  how can I get there
[23:38] <Typos_King> using an editor :)
[23:38] <pepee> Nonickname-, kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:40] <Nonickname-> http://pastebin.com/PDPMievn
[23:42] <Typos_King> heheh
[23:42] <Typos_King> looks like it didn't open :P
[23:42] <Nonickname-> ;/
[23:43] <Typos_King> kate /etc/apt/sources.list  <--
[23:43] <Nonickname-> oh
[23:43] <Nonickname-> here http://pastebin.com/8CU3uH8d
[23:45] <Typos_King> sooo yes
[23:46] <Typos_King> they're commented, lines 38 and 39, remove he #
[23:46] <Typos_King> well hold on
[23:46] <Typos_King> close kate
[23:46] <Nonickname-> do i save changes?
[23:47] <Typos_King> no
[23:47] <pepee> yes..
[23:47] <Typos_King> and relaunch it like this ->  sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:47] <Typos_King> hehe , is not a sudo'ed session :P
[23:47] <Nonickname-> no or yes?
[23:47] <Typos_King> no, close it and
[23:47] <Typos_King> and relaunch it like this ->  sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:47] <pepee> he
[23:48] <pepee> no, do what Typos_King says
[23:48] <pepee> sorry...
[23:48] <Nonickname-> ok
[23:48] <Nonickname-> done
[23:48] <Typos_King> is it reopened?
[23:49] <Nonickname-> yes
[23:49] <Typos_King> they're commented, lines 38 and 39, remove he #
[23:49] <Typos_King> the ones that say # deb ....
[23:50] <Nonickname-> ok
[23:50] <Nonickname-> saved.
[23:50] <Typos_King> when done...save it... ok... close it
[23:50] <Typos_King> and now do an -> sudo apt-get update;
[23:50] <Typos_King> then when the update is done, retry the linux-backports install :)
[23:51] <Nonickname-> okay
[23:51] <Nonickname-> just a sec
[23:51] <Nonickname-> i do upgrade too?
[23:51] <Typos_King> 1
[23:51] <Typos_King> hehe
[23:51] <Typos_King> no upgrade, just update
[23:51] <Nonickname-> ok done then
[23:52] <Typos_King> now do  a -> sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules;
[23:52] <Nonickname-> E: Couldn't find package linux-backports-modules
[23:53] <Nonickname-> How come updating from 9.04 to 9.10 online is 900MB ?
[23:53] <Nonickname-> And the full copy of 9.10 is 700MB ?
[23:54] <Typos_King> no backports...
[23:54] <pepee> 'cause is outdated
[23:54] <pepee> the cd have just the basics packages
[23:54] <pepee> *has
[23:55] <Nonickname-> ;/
[23:55] <Nonickname-> So, i have no other choice?
[23:55] <pepee> try lucid
[23:55] <Nonickname-> whats lucid?
[23:55] <pepee> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[23:56] <pepee> but I don't think is possible to update to lucid from jaunty...
[23:56] <Nonickname-> Isnt it the same as Ubuntu Gnome 9.10?
[23:56] <pepee> nope
[23:56] <Nonickname-> I like KDE's desktop :p
[23:57] <pepee> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[23:57] <pepee> 28-Mar-2010 06:24
[23:57] <Typos_King> I'd not bother with 9.1 from 9.04
[23:57] <Nonickname-> How come updating from 9.04 to 9.10 online is 900MB ? And 9.10's size is 700MB ?
[23:58] <pepee> 'cause the cd is outdated
[23:58] <Typos_King> as far as the driver for your wireless adapter...... fairly sure.... is available online, not sure if as .deb
[23:58] <pepee> yep, it is
[23:58] <Nonickname-> Cant i download a driver for it?
[23:59] <pepee> Nonickname-,  you can try compat-wireless, but is complicated...
[23:59] <Nonickname-> can u tell me how pls? ;/
[23:59] <Nonickname-> I really need to get this thing working