[00:30] <zus> hello i have a few things ive been trying to get fixed that simply arent working right... first.. i keep getting an authorization dialog box asking for unser name ad password. wich is already filled in. then i hit save password and ok.... after some time it pops up again.!!! 2 days i've been trying to figure this out. also ...
[00:31] <zus> gpgp keys i saved my folder from my ubuntu when i decided to use kubuntu 2 days ago...when i do kdesudo kate /home/username/.gnupg/gpg.conf to  check  for a "line" there is nothing in there. im tryin to import my pgp key ring into kmail can some one please help
[00:48] <yofel> zus: this channel is for help on filing/triaging bugs on launchpad, please use #ubuntu for stable release support and #ubuntu+1 for lucid
[00:51] <zus> yofel,  thanks,
[03:56] <OkThen> So i'm on 10.04 and going on some websites makes me automatically log out
[03:56] <OkThen> What's up with that?
[03:58] <OkThen> Any clue?
[03:58] <greg-g> Do you have an example, OkThen ?
[03:59] <OkThen> Hold on
[04:01] <OkThen> Ok
[04:01] <greg-g> hah, sorry
[04:01] <OkThen> Happens when I go on http://gnome-look.org/
[04:01] <greg-g> what browser are you using, OkThen ?
[04:01] <OkThen> Also happened on sdb.drshnaps.com
[04:01] <OkThen> Firefox
[04:02] <greg-g> I'm using Firefox 3.6 and it doesn't do that fo rme
[04:02] <greg-g> what is that site, before I go to open it?
[04:02] <greg-g> the last one you provided a link to
[04:02] <OkThen> Which one
[04:02] <OkThen> Oh
[04:02] <OkThen> Like sprite pictures for games and stuff
[04:03] <greg-g> that one also loads fine and does not log me out
[04:03] <OkThen> Are you on 10.04?
[04:03] <greg-g> does this also happen in other browsers? What extensions do you have installed? Any new extensions lately?
[04:03] <greg-g> yes
[04:04] <OkThen> Only real thing I installed for firefox is Adblock
[04:04] <greg-g> interesting
[04:05] <sbeattie> Doh, sounds like X is crashing for OkThen...
[04:05] <OkThen> Woops
[04:07] <OkThen> Sorry was checking if it was a specific category in Gnome-Look or all of it
[04:07] <OkThen> It's all of it
[04:08] <greg-g> any ideas sbeattie ?
[04:08] <sbeattie> OkThen: you're getting logged out to the gdm login?
[04:09] <OkThen> Yea
[04:09] <sbeattie> Possibly X is crashing, if that's the case.
[04:09] <hggdh> try with a brand new ffox profile, just in case
[04:09] <hggdh> er
[04:10] <micahg> we have a few bugs on where firefox seems to cause X to crash, but no conclusions so far
[04:10] <hggdh> look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old -- see if there is a message, near the end, stating X received a SIGQUIT
[04:11] <hggdh> I have been having something like that, every so often, but I have been unable to trace it back to a specifc action or progamme
[04:12] <mccolgan> Good evening, I'm looking to join this bugsquad, and in the last step I'm supposed to be sending an email to the mail list.
[04:12] <greg-g> micahg: really, weird
[04:12] <mccolgan> I need to include my id and whether or not I read the guide.
[04:12] <mccolgan> Is there anything else I should include? what's the proper protocol? Should I put an introduction?
[04:12] <hggdh> mccolgan: I think I have just approved you...
[04:13] <hggdh> mcgolst-gmail?
[04:13] <mccolgan> yes
[04:13] <hggdh> welcome in, then :-)
[04:13] <mccolgan> Thank you!
[04:21] <dawnview> what does it mean to "join" the bug squad? how is that different from just reporting bugs?
[04:24] <micahg> dawnview: bugsquad helps to triage bugs
[04:28] <hggdh> but there is no real difference, it is more like you now officially belong to a group that does what you were doing before
[04:38] <dawnview> i see. i guess i don't currently triage bugs, so that's perhaps the main difference.
[04:54] <mccolgan> I'm checking out this bug and there's kinda two parts to it, one looks like a wishlist and the other part I have reproduced how should I handle this?
[05:09] <bbordwell> I have an upstream bug filed with GNOME and they are asking for a stacktrace, is this the same thing as a backtrace?
[05:13] <mccolgan> yes
[05:14] <bbordwell> mccolgan, Thank you.
[05:20] <hoctopus> the command     sudo init 1 is not switching x windows off to the command line. it locks up during the shut down process
[05:28] <bbordwell> mccolgan, how can you get a backtrace on a problem that is not a crash or a freeze?
[05:29] <bbordwell> I attached the process, recreated the bug, but then I can not do anything in gdb, so i tried exiting normaly bug then gdb told me there was no stack
[05:30] <mccolgan> bbordwell, I'm not sure to be honest, I'm kind of new to that, I simply knew the terminology was the same
[05:30] <bbordwell> mccolgan, okay thanks. this is my first attempt at getting a backtrace
[05:32] <bbordwell> ahh ctrl+c
[05:33] <mccolgan> bbordwell, thanks, good to know
[05:35] <mccolgan> bbordwell, according to the man page, gdb can be passed 'bt' to show a backtrace
[05:35] <mccolgan> or is that not what youre looking for
[05:38] <bbordwell> mccolgan, I accomplished a backtrace. after you attach a proccess gdb stops it so you can no longer do anything in that program. I typed continue so i could recreate the bug. You then press ctr+c to send gdb an interupt signal
[05:42] <mccolgan> bbordwell, ah okay thanks
[05:48] <hggdh> yes, this is how you get it. Just please be sure to have all symbols resolved
[05:49] <bbordwell> hggdh, I am not sure what you mean?
[05:50] <hggdh> if you see a lot of ??, then you are missing the debug symbols packages
[05:50] <hggdh> usually, the most important are the first few lines -- say, 10
[05:57] <bbordwell> hggdh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/403637/
[05:57] <bbordwell> would you mind telling me if i need to do anything or if that is alright?
[07:22] <hoctopus> In System-> Administration->Network Tools -> port scan   it runs continuously applied to a firewalled system leaving the person running the scan unaware of if all ports are scanned or of scan is still going on
[07:35] <hoctopus> In System -> Administration->System Testing    there is no cancel button when System Testing is first opened by mistake
[08:01] <giantpune> hello.  i have got a weird issue with ubuntu 9.10 AMD.  the system froze and i had to hold the power button to turt it off.  when i restart it,  i cannot get my usb serial device which usually shows up as /dev/ttyUSB0 to work
[08:04] <giantpune> the device works fine when i connect it to windows running in vmware.  but when i disconnect it from the vmware pc, it does not show up as ttyUSB0 in ubuntu
[08:16] <giantpune> ive found the device at /dev/bus/usb/004/010.  is there any way to force it to be /dev/ttyUSB0 like it was before the crash?
[10:44] <shrini1> team: we are doing a bugjam in kanchipuram, india now
[10:44] <shrini1> :-)
[10:44] <shrini1> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/EasyTasks
[10:44] <thekorn> shrini1: very cool, have fun
[10:45] <shrini1> thekorn: thanks
[10:45] <shrini1> training on LP is going on now
[10:52] <bbordwell> what exactly is a bugjam?
[10:52] <thekorn> bbordwell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[10:53] <thekorn> see the FAQ on this page
[10:55] <bencrisford> shrini1: Nice!  Enjoy yourselves =)
[10:55] <shrini1> bencrisford: thanks a lot
[11:34] <bencrisford> is anyone around?  i need some help.. :S
[11:34] <bencrisford> with this bug in marble : https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/kdeedu/+bug/537944
[11:34] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 537944 in marble (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "douarnenez (France) is in a wrong place (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[11:34] <bencrisford> i have spoken to a marble dev
[11:35] <bencrisford> who has kde-bug-tracker'd it
[11:35] <bencrisford> i did an also affects for kdeedu
[11:35] <bencrisford> is there a way of linking the lp report to the kde one?
[11:35] <bencrisford> is it as simple as adding the url to the remote watch "bit" of the also affects?
[11:36] <nigelb> generally, we encourage kde bug reports to be reported directly to kde and not in LP
[11:36] <bencrisford> it isnt really a kde bug report
[11:36] <bencrisford> well obviously it is
[11:36] <bencrisford> but it affects edubuntu, which is why i think it should stay on launchpad
[11:37] <bencrisford> i found it through the edubugs, which are what i generally focus on
[11:37] <nigelb> do you know the kde bug number?
[11:37] <bencrisford> 232450 nigelb
[11:37] <nigelb> kde bug 232450
[11:37] <ubot4`> KDE bug 232450 in general "Douarnenez (France) [and possibly other places to] is in a wrong place" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232450
[11:37] <bencrisford> yes
[11:39] <nigelb> bencrisford, um, its a game?
[11:40] <bencrisford> no
[11:40] <bencrisford> an educational package
[11:40] <bencrisford> like google earth
[11:40] <nigelb> ah, ok.  would you like to submit a patch for it then?
[11:41] <bencrisford> patch would be difficult
[11:41] <bencrisford> well
[11:41] <bencrisford> not overly complex
[11:42] <bencrisford> but marble have a GSoC person working on new co-ordinates anyway
[11:42] <bencrisford> so it is assigned to him on kbugs
[11:42] <nigelb> ah, ok
[11:42] <nigelb> does kde have a git or svn for the code?
[11:43] <bencrisford> apt-get source works fine for the souce package if thats what you're after?
[11:43] <bencrisford> im asking about the svn for you though ;)
[11:44] <nigelb> apt-get does not tend to get me latest upstream code
[11:44] <bencrisford> aah
[11:44] <bencrisford> ah*
[11:45] <bencrisford> nigelb: if i click the down arrow on the also affects, and add the url of the kbug, will that link them?
[11:45] <nigelb> yes, I have already linked them for you :)
[11:45] <bencrisford> oh ok, ty
[11:45] <bencrisford> nigelb: there is an svn
[11:46] <nigelb> bencrisford, oh, great.  I'll to get a patch it.  that should fix it sooner
[11:46] <bencrisford> nigelb: l,
[11:46] <bencrisford> ok* dont know what happend there
[11:46] <nigelb> :D
[11:46] <bencrisford> in the source, if you go to /data/placemarks that seems to have all the information
[11:46] <bencrisford> there might be other stuff that needs changing though
[11:47] <nigelb> that would be the responsibility of the person to whom the task is assigned :D
[11:47] <bencrisford> yeah ;), but in case you were interested :P
[11:47] <nigelb> since you've mentioned it to me, I'll just try to get a patch to make his/her life easier
[11:48] <bencrisford> nigelb: :)
[11:48] <bencrisford> the problem seems to be that a negative sign was left off the co-ordinates
[11:48] <nigelb> I'll try to poke the kubuntu folks to get it into lucid
[11:48] <nigelb> oh, so you mean more negatives might have been left out?
[11:48] <bencrisford> for someone who knows the source its a five minute job
[11:48] <bencrisford> nigelb: is possible
[11:49] <nigelb> ouch ouch
[11:49] <bencrisford> which is why the guy im talking to on #marble assigned it to the fella doing the new co-ordinates
[11:49] <nigelb> ah
[11:49] <bencrisford> but i reckon it was just someone adding all the cities, getting tired and making a simple human error?
[11:49] <nigelb> indeed, probable
[11:49] <nigelb> but I thought it might be automaticized
[11:50] <bencrisford> hmm
[11:50] <nigelb> if it was, then we might have a bigger problem
[11:50] <bencrisford> well, its lucky the fella who reported it noticed
[11:50] <nigelb> yup
[11:50] <bencrisford> id say that if there was anymore errors, they'd be in western europe, else they would have probably been noticed
[11:51] <nigelb> I'll try to get him a patch for this one and leave the rest up to them :)
[11:51] <bencrisford> the french error was small because the city in question is so close to the prime meridian line
[11:51] <nigelb> in that case this might be a small human error
[11:51] <bencrisford> in most places the town would be miles and miles and miles out of where it should be
[11:52] <bencrisford> and i think people would notice if moscow suddenly turned up in washington
[11:52] <nigelb> yeah :D
[11:52] <bencrisford> if there was other errors, they have prolly been fixed
[11:54] <bencrisford> nigelb: its lucky it was noticed before lucid final release :/
[11:54] <nigelb> yes indeed
[11:55] <bencrisford> and its lucky i came across the bug
[11:55] <bencrisford> edubugs are normally sitting around for ages before anyone triages them
[11:55] <bencrisford> edubuntu bugs are really neglected
[11:55] <nigelb> seriously?
[11:57] <bencrisford> nigelb: they can be, obviously they are ubuntu bugs also, but nearly all the edubugs (http://tinyurl.com/EduBugs) are new and open
[11:58] <bencrisford> some have been there for months, or worse...
[11:58] <nigelb> bencrisford, the problem probably is that not everyone runs it to test them out
[11:58] <bencrisford> nigelb: yeah, but that cant be helped..  because there isnt that many people working on marketing either
[11:59] <bencrisford> well, it might be a bit better now, i only came back to ubuntu yesterday after a few months of absence
[11:59] <bencrisford> but when i was around before, we were starting to re-structure/kick-start edubuntu again
[11:59] <bencrisford> it is *alot* better now, but we really need more people
[12:00] <nigelb> wish I could help, my hands are too much tied with ubuntu per se
[12:01] <bencrisford> nigelb: i understand
[12:01] <bencrisford> its a busy time right now :D
[12:02] <nigelb> oh yes
[12:12] <BUGabundo> m0rning
[12:13] <bencrisford> BUGabundo: hey buddy :) its been a while
[12:14]  * bencrisford hopes BUGabundo remembers him...
[12:14] <BUGabundo> not really
[12:14] <BUGabundo> I have terrible memory
[12:14] <BUGabundo> sorry
[12:14] <BUGabundo> shrug
[12:14] <bencrisford> haha, its ok ;)
[12:15] <BUGabundo> feel free to remind me
[12:15] <BUGabundo> I'll get there eventually
[12:15] <bencrisford> BUGabundo: dont really know what to say :P
[12:15] <BUGabundo> ahah
[12:15] <BUGabundo> ok then
[12:15] <bencrisford> ive been around in the bug squad for a year or two..
[12:15] <bencrisford> we know each other from IRC
[12:15] <bencrisford> i think i have you on identi.ca but i cant say i ever go on it
[12:15] <BUGabundo> like just about everyone in here
[12:16] <BUGabundo> eheh
[12:16] <bencrisford> yeah :P
[12:16] <BUGabundo> µbloggingis fun
[12:16] <kklimonda> hey BUGabundo o/
[12:16] <BUGabundo> key kklimonda
[12:16] <bencrisford> kklimonda: hi
[12:16] <kklimonda> good afternoon all the rest of you buggers!
[12:16] <BUGabundo> time to debug gwibber :\
[12:16] <nigelb> lol, thats an odde choice of term kklimonda :D
[12:17] <BUGabundo> error: (28, 'Operation timed out after 15000 milliseconds with 0 bytes received')
[12:17] <BUGabundo> Gwibber Dispatcher: ERROR    Failed to communicate with https://brainbird.net/api/statuses/friends_timeline.json?count=200
[12:17] <BUGabundo> Gwibber Dispatcher: ERROR    Failed to parse the response, error was: No JSON object could be decoded
[12:17] <BUGabundo> bah... its dead again
[12:17] <kklimonda> nigelb: ;)
[12:17] <kklimonda> nigelb: I'm going to blame the good weather for that
[12:18] <BUGabundo> nigelb: let me put it this way: kklimonda is hungry, and thinking of food
[12:18] <BUGabundo> err of hamburgers, I mean
[12:18] <nigelb> lol
[12:19] <bencrisford> BUGabundo: i do have you on identica ;)
[12:20] <yofel> any ideas how to debug shadow? (# passwd test -> passwd: System error \n passwd: password unchanged)
[12:20] <BUGabundo> bencrisford: which one of my caresmatica profiles?
[12:20] <yofel> morgen BUGabundo
[12:20] <bencrisford> BUGabundo: mr bean..?
[12:20] <BUGabundo> bencrisford: FYI you should (remote) sub to http://mi.BUGabundo.net
[12:20] <BUGabundo> well that is the old one :p
[12:21] <bencrisford> oh
[12:21] <bencrisford> well ive been absent from ubuntu for a few months
[12:21] <BUGabundo> yofel: Bom dia for you too.. can't help much with shadow. I remember someone having trouble with it last cycle
[12:21] <BUGabundo> bencrisford: what happened to you ?
[12:22] <bencrisford> BUGabundo: computer messed up, friend suggested installing arch..  i am very ashamed of myself...  but arch was crap compared to 'buntu, and i missed you all so much :P
[12:23] <bencrisford> so i came back :D
[12:23] <bencrisford> installed yesterday ;), beta 1
[12:23] <BUGabundo> yeah, one of the strongest reasons for us to keep using Ubuntu : Community
[12:23] <bencrisford> i just love contributing
[12:24] <bencrisford> ubuntu is the best distro for contrbuting, cos you see your work, and you know it makes a difference
[12:24] <bencrisford> and everyones so supportive and friendly ;)
[12:43] <kklimonda> is there a good documentation on writing bug patterns and pushing them to the main branch?
[12:46] <nigelb> there was one on the apport page
[12:46] <nigelb> lemme get it for you
[12:48] <nigelb> kklimonda, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport/DeveloperHowTo#Bug%20patterns
[12:49] <kklimonda> thanks
[12:49] <kklimonda> heh, this much I know :)
[12:50] <kklimonda> what I don't know is how to push them back - should I create my own branch and request a merge?
[12:51] <nigelb> you have commit access
[12:51] <nigelb> you can just checkout and do a commit
[12:55] <kklimonda> oh to hell with that - what can I break by just pushing one small change!
[12:56] <kklimonda> only those who don't do anything make no mistakes etc.
[12:56]  * kklimonda closes eyes and pushes big red button
[14:19] <WoAnerges> hi guys!
[14:19] <WoAnerges> have VAIO with "ATI mobility radeon HD 4570" and Intel Core2 DUO T6600 @ 2.2GHz.
[14:19] <WoAnerges> can't install ubuntu 10.04 normally. problems with video appearance.
[14:19] <WoAnerges> need help.
[14:19] <WoAnerges> i know - the image in attachment - it looks like video card owerheat, but it's not an owerheat of vc processor. i am sure about that, because i had a vc that was damaged by owerheating. this is not that case.
[14:19] <WoAnerges> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=151676&d=1269750326
[14:38] <bencrisford> WoAnerges: hi
[14:38] <WoAnerges> hi!
[14:39] <bencrisford> i appreciate that you need help, but im afraid this isn't a support channel
[14:39] <WoAnerges> :(
[14:39] <bencrisford> i would help you but im pretty busy atm :/
[14:39] <WoAnerges> i understand
[14:39] <bencrisford> try #ubuntu
[14:39] <WoAnerges> they don want me to help! ;(
[14:39] <WoAnerges> mommy
[14:39] <WoAnerges> #ubuntu send me to #ubuntu+1 channel
[14:40] <bencrisford> WoAnerges: hmm
[14:40] <WoAnerges> but there no one who could say something
[14:40] <bencrisford> have you posted on the forums?
[14:40] <WoAnerges> so i here and itś something like a last resort
[14:40] <WoAnerges> yes!
[14:40] <WoAnerges> not even a single reply
[14:40] <bencrisford> well, erm lets stop spamming the chanel, ill talk to you in private ;)
[14:40] <WoAnerges> and on ubuntu questions too
[15:15] <nigelb> bencrisford, patch ready for marble :) sorry I took too long :)
[15:18] <bencrisford> nigelb: not at all!  im impressed and grateful that you managed to find the time so quickly
[15:34] <chrisccoulson> BlackZ, we're not assigning desktop bugs to the desktop-bugs team any more ;)
[15:35] <nigelb> chrisccoulson, yeah?
[15:35] <chrisccoulson> yeah, it was talked about on IRC a few days ago
[15:35] <nigelb> oh great :)
[15:36] <chrisccoulson> there's not really any benefit of doing it, so we're not going to anymore
[15:36] <nigelb> I never assigned.  I always forgot
[15:40] <yofel> chrisccoulson: really? nice, one less thing to think about :)
[15:54] <lfaraone> If printing via a socket or hplip to a particular printer results in black lines where there is no content appearing on the page, that's a bug in CUPS, right?
[16:14] <poindexter> System ->Administration->Login Screen set to failsafe terminal seems to have no path back to GNOME. Tried startx and tried init 1 thru init 6 but after reboot still can get only failsafe terninal rather than desktop. Any help to recover would be appreciated too.
[16:23] <kklimonda> you can still change it from gdm, after you select the user and before you type your password (and this channel isn't right one for support questions)
[18:31] <varunthacker> i would like to be a part of the bug squad and in the process learn.the wiki entry on how to request a mentor says to sign the code of conduct.where do we sign it online.it says on this link. but where https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.0.1
[18:33] <mrand> varunthacker: you sign it on your machine with gpg and then upload it, I believe.
[18:34] <yofel_> varunthacker: https://help.launchpad.net/Signing%20the%20Ubuntu%20Code%20of%20Conduct
[18:35] <varunthacker> yofel_, thanks a lot
[18:48] <Sioux-33> anyone here?
[18:48] <Damascene> yeah
[18:49] <Sioux-33> im trying to report bug in ubuntu 9.10 kernel 2.6.31.21generic or pae or 2.6.31.20 pae no mousse cursor just 2.6.31.20generic is working fine i tried from terminal ubuntu-bug but is asking for package and i dont know what i should put after ubuntu-bug?
[18:52] <yofel_> Sioux-33: use 'linux' as the package name for kernel bugs, and please make sure you're running one of the non-working kernels while you report the bug
[18:53] <Sioux-33> yup how do u want me to run 2.6.31.21 if there is no mousse cursor?
[18:53] <Sioux-33> :)
[18:53] <Sioux-33> i use 2.6.31.20 at the moment
[18:54] <Sioux-33> i got installed 2.6.31.21 generic and 2.6.31.21 pae and 2.6.31.20 pae and 2.6.31.20 and just in the last one mousse cursor is working
[18:54] <Sioux-33> i mean in 2.6.31.20 generic
[18:54] <nonix4b> Sioux-33: ctrl-alt-f1 for console is one way to do that... will also give you w3m as the browser to use.
[18:54] <yofel_> Sioux-33: boot into 21, go to a tty with ctrl+alt+f1, login and run 'apport-cli linux' and select to save the report
[18:55] <Sioux-33> ok i will manage it tnx
[18:55] <yofel_> copy the report somewhere safe, reboot into your working kernel and file the bug from there
[18:55] <yofel_> gone...
[18:55] <nonix4b> too late... hope he guesses that?
[18:57] <yofel_> does karmic purge /tmp on reboot?
[18:58] <acicula> unless that behaviour got changed recently, yes
[18:58] <acicula> think thats also in the lsb? spec, /tmp is purged on boot /var/tmp is not
[18:59] <yofel_> heh
[19:00] <yofel_> maybe we should choose a different default storage place for apport-cli reports...
[19:01]  * nonix4b looks at /var/tmp and notices that it actually contains a total of one subdir... kdecache-username. But yes, tmpfs is kinda volatile.
[19:06] <nikolajsheller1> I have just installed Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04 beta 1 on a Mac Mini. Install went well, but subsequent boot fails. All I can see is a nice boot screen with 4 dots under the ubuntu logo. CTRL-SHIFT-F1 does not work, nor  CTRL-SHIFT-DELETE. Pressing the power button causes the machine to shut down (APCI probably). Not sure how to proceed with this. How can I get useful information about the cause of the boot hang?
[19:07] <yofel_> nikolajsheller1: lucid support is in #ubuntu+1 please, this channel is for bug filing/triaging help
[19:11] <nonix4> Any hints on debugging #537158 (firefox infinite loop)? Got it happening again, changed to console and wondering which kind of poking it with gdb would get useful information out...
[19:13] <micahg> nonix4: how about a full backtrace?
[19:14] <yofel_> bug 537158
[19:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 537158 in firefox-3.5 (Ubuntu) "Firefox infinite loop, cursor changing between pointer and hand (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/537158
[19:14] <nonix4> micahg: has a link to 40+ of them
[19:15] <nonix4> have it SIGSTOP'd atm so could do further things with it as well
[19:17] <micahg> nonix4: does the xorg log say anything?
[19:18] <yofel_> hm, wasn't there a way to connect strace to a running process?
[19:20] <micahg> yofel_: yes
[19:21] <nonix4> micahg: not much there besides logs of input devices getting reattached on ctrl-alt-fX and some related config/dbus warnings. Today ff was running on :2 (backtraces 30-49), earlier on :0.
[19:21] <micahg> nonix4: yofel had a good idea, what does strace show?
[19:22] <nonix4> sure... full strace or ideas on what to limit it to?
 new bug if u want to look at it Bug #550396
[19:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 550396 in linux (Ubuntu) "ubuntu 9.10 kernel 2.6.31.21generic and pae cursor bug (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/550396
[19:23] <micahg> nonix4: try to attach as full and see what it's doing right when it jumps back and forth
[19:24] <Guest69053> hey, I found this weird bug and Im not sure how to report it. basically I was testing the translations and it game me the option to change the directory names(which is cool), however it does not update the shortcut to the desktop in the places menu, leaving a dead link you cant edit
[19:27] <nonix4b> ran strace with -ff and -o... one file is big, rest are tiny
[19:29] <mccolgan> Anybody else get the window to stretch when writing long messages in empathy on irc chats?
[19:30] <yofel_> mccolgan: sounds familiar I think....
[19:31] <mccolgan> I searched for bugs in empathy but I didn't find it, I figure someone must have reported it by now
[19:33] <nonix4> micahg: strace output at http://www.hut.fi/u/iheino/ff/ as well, that is for bit over one second (strace makes it flip cursor state slower)
[19:33] <yofel_> mccolgan: bug 433651?
[19:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 433651 in empathy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "no text wrap when typing in the message entry (affects: 10) (dups: 1)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/433651
[19:33] <mccolgan> yofell_: yup thats the one, thanks
[19:34] <mccolgan> yofel_: thanks
[19:38] <hggdh> can anyone open a terminal (in Gnome) and run 'gksu <whatever>' -- then give a bad passphrase
[19:38] <mccolgan> GNOME_SUDO_PASSSorry, try again.
[19:38] <mccolgan> sudo: 3 incorrect password attempts
[19:38] <mccolgan> I only entered it once
[19:40] <mccolgan> hggdh: It said that I had 3 attempts and exited even though I only had one attempt.
[19:42] <hggdh> good, you just confirmed a bug... now to get the attention of the desktop folks ;-)
[19:43] <hggdh> mccolgan: thank you
[19:43] <mccolgan> hggdh: Happy to help! :D
[19:45] <hggdh> for the record this is bug 540732
[19:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 540732 in gksu (Ubuntu) "Incorrect password does not give error (affects: 2) (dups: 1)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/540732
[19:48] <Damascene> is there any known bug that if you click on disk in folders view in netbook launcher nothing will happen?
[19:50] <acicula> yofel_: does it store apport-cli in /tmp/ ?
[19:53] <mccolgan> Damascene: what is netbook launcher?
[19:53] <yofel_> acicula: it does here, when I tried it I got /tmp/apport.bash.ucUepZ.apport (Lucid)
[19:54] <Damascene> it's the thing you see after you install netbook edition
[19:54] <Damascene> like a special desktop to ease the use of the pc
[19:55] <mccolgan> Ah, I had that on this netbook yesterday, but I didn't try that
[19:55] <Michiel2> hey, I found this weird bug and Im not sure how to report it. basically I was testing the translations and it game me the option to change the directory names(which is cool), however it does not update the shortcut to the desktop in the places menu, leaving a dead link you cant edit, any ideas?
[19:56] <acicula> yofel_: why would that be undesirable?
[19:56] <acicula> (i dont know) hence im asking
[19:57] <yofel_> acicula: well, I just thought that people might wonder why they lost the file after a reboot if /tmp gets purged, I'm not exactly against the current situation
[19:57] <Damascene> mccolgan, do you have lucid or karmic
[19:58] <mccolgan> Damascene: lucid. I had netbook edition on here then I decided to put desktop edition on here
[19:58] <Damascene> can you help confirming this problem?
[19:59] <mccolgan> Damascene: Sorry, I won't be able to as I installed desktop version over the netbook edition.
[19:59] <Damascene> you still can use it I think
[20:00] <Damascene> just logout and chose the netbook edition. that if you didn't delete it
[20:00] <mccolgan> But I did delete it
[20:01] <Damascene> np
[20:12] <BUGabundo> bencrisford: now I recall
[20:12] <BUGabundo> I sponserd you for membershio
[20:12] <bencrisford> BUGabundo: to bug control?
[21:22] <Damascene> I want to file a bug, what do you call this http://imagebin.org/90665
[21:22] <BUGabundo> Damascene: mind taking a screenshot in LANG=C
[21:22] <BUGabundo> I can't even begin to guess what that is
[21:23] <Damascene> it's a problem in the font or something
[21:24] <Damascene> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5486341/images/screen-shots/open-office.png normal not ubuntu
[21:24] <arand> Damascene: "font not displayed correctly on inacive window tabs" maybe?
[21:25] <arand> Damascene: Does the theme used have anything to do with it?
[21:25] <Damascene> it's only in openoffice
[21:25] <Damascene> sorry I didn't mention that
[21:25] <Damascene> and Lucid
[21:30] <mccolgan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/550074 Isn't this bug a duplicate of something mentioned earlier in this chat?
[21:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 550074 in sudo (Ubuntu) "GKsudo fails with incorrect password (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[21:30] <mccolgan> I can't find the bug that was mentioned earlier in this thread that I believe is the same as this one
[21:39] <Damascene> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/550481
[21:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 550481 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "font not displayed correctly on inacive window tabs in openoffice (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[21:42] <jibel> mccolgan, it's an old but still existing bug. I think bug 298217 is the same.
[21:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 298217 in gksu (Ubuntu) "Password dialog gives up with no indication after one failed attempt (affects: 4) (dups: 2)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/298217
[21:43] <mccolgan> jibel: thank you, I'll mark it as duplicate
[21:44] <jibel> mccolgan, thanks
[21:50] <rlameiro> hello friends
[21:50] <rlameiro> I have a doub if I should file something as a bug or not
[21:50] <rlameiro> the problem is that it was solved only by rebooting, and to reproduce it i will need to make a fresh install
[21:51] <rlameiro> i can give the details and the process , but i can test it again...
[21:51] <mccolgan> riameiro: what seem(ed) to be the problem
[21:52] <rlameiro> i wanted to install a resticted driver for th broadcom wireless driver
[21:52] <rlameiro> but it just gave me this error
[21:52] <rlameiro>  SystemError: installArchives() failed
[21:52] <rlameiro> after that I went on to #ubuntu-dev
[21:53] <rlameiro> and i tried the text version and it gave me the same problem
[21:53] <rlameiro> problem is thatr the error didnt pointed to anything and there are no log file to know what was wrong, after a reboot it worked
[21:54] <rlameiro> this happend on a fresh install of ubuntustufio beta1
[21:54] <rlameiro> *ubuntustudio
[21:54] <rlameiro> so what can i make to file a bug that is understandable and helpfull?
[21:57] <mccolgan> I'd say if you can get as many details of the circumstance as possible (exactly what you were doing), what you were expecting, and as many details aboout the system as you can, that it should have to do
[21:59] <rlameiro> mccolgan, is there some tool to give a the details of  my system to attach to the bug?
[22:00] <micahg> rlameiro: ubuntu-bug
[22:00] <rlameiro> thanks micahg
[22:01] <mccolgan> micahg: Here's a bunch of info that might help you out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[22:23] <rlameiro> mccolgan,
[22:23] <rlameiro> !bug #550503
[22:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 550503 in jockey (Ubuntu) "at first boot, Jockey cant activate the broadcom driver (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/550503
[22:23] <rlameiro> what do you think about it?
[22:23] <yofel_> isn't that long known? (you first need to refresh the package cache?)
[22:24] <rlameiro> i didn't knew about it
[22:24] <rlameiro> but firstcommers shouldnt know that they need to refresh the package cache..
[22:25] <mccolgan> rlameiro, whether it is known or not, you did pretty good describing and giving enough information
[22:25] <yofel_> valid bug indeed, but there should already exist one about that I think...
[22:25] <mccolgan> at least in my opinion
[22:25] <rlameiro> thanks mccolgan i think this is my first bug rport in the real sense :D
[22:26] <mccolgan> thumbs up keep at it
[22:26] <rlameiro> no, I filed one about bazaar soem time ago
[22:26] <rlameiro> well
[22:26] <yofel_> the description is good, no worries
[22:26] <rlameiro> will keep checking for bugs :D
[23:36] <markel> hola
[23:39] <Michalxo> hello!
[23:39] <Michalxo> how can I fill new bug?
[23:39] <Michalxo> I am unalbe to start liveCD 10.04 on my other laptop
[23:40] <Michalxo> I am not interested in trying alternate cd.. as I don't want to isntall it
[23:42] <mccolgan> ok, can you get more details about this bug? where does it fail? what kind of laptop do you have? does the cd work on a different computer? etc
[23:42] <Michalxo> thanks
[23:42] <Michalxo> so it's Amilo li1718 laptop
[23:43] <Michalxo> I am trying i386 image built yesterday 27.3.2010 image
[23:43] <Michalxo> when booting menu should appear (TRY/ INSTALL choices) whole screen becomes overwritten by lines and whole booting process stops
[23:44] <Michalxo> I think it can be something with acpi/apic (not sure which one), but with plymouth(?) I am unable to choose how to boot :-(
[23:44] <Michalxo> I think it's fault on radeon x200 (m) card
[23:46] <Michalxo> yeah, cd works on my laptop (this one) correctly
[23:46] <mccolgan> I see. Try to gather as many details as you can and go  ahead and put it in a bug report
[23:47] <Michalxo> and how can I report "blank" bug?
[23:47] <Michalxo> since LP was changed I report only by ubuntu-bug system...
[23:48] <Michalxo> btw, can I report this bug from that "corrupted" machine via 9.10..?
[23:49] <mccolgan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/ you can report it by going here and at the top right click 'report a bug'
[23:50] <Michalxo> ok, i'll make it tomorrow, thanks for info mccolgan ! gn guys!
[23:51] <mccolgan> No problem, good luck