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psusicjwatson, well I'm trying to attach what I think is the final draft of that patch to the bug report but firefox is being fubar and won't select the right file.... going to see if an update and reboot fixes it...00:24
siddharthahello,sorry about the noob-ness.. i have a question: i was running a karmic installation.. i somehow managed to change change my release type to eeebuntu after adding some package repos.  Recently i added lucid repos. Is there any way to change the distribution release type ? lsb_release -a tells me im still running eeebuntu.00:52
siddharthahello,sorry about the noob-ness.. i have a question: i was running a karmic installation.. i somehow managed to change change my release type to eeebuntu after adding some package repos.  Recently i added lucid repos. Is there any way to change the distribution release type ? lsb_release -a tells me im still running eeebuntu.00:54
arandsiddhartha: -> #ubuntu or #ubuntu+100:55
Sarvattslangasek: I'm guessing its the vga=795 (aka 1280x1024x24bpp) boot option they are passing to a vga16fb.. :D00:56
siddharthaleave #ubuntu-devel00:58
slangasekSarvatt: nope, the fact that they're *using* VGA16 is proof that the vga= option had no effect (which probably means they're using grub2)02:14
slangasekSarvatt: if vga= had worked, /proc/fb would show vesafb as fb0 instead of vga16fb02:16
nixternalslangasek: any pointers on creating a custom plymouth theme? the one I created yesterday will not work with the new plymouth, it always falls back to the ubuntu one03:13
slangaseknixternal: are you using update-alternatives?03:13
nixternalyes03:13
nixternalupdate-alternatives --config default.plymouth03:13
slangaseker - you're not doing that in the maintainer scripts, are you?03:14
nixternalno no, I am doing this locally03:14
slangasekok03:14
nixternalnot in packaging at all03:14
slangasekwell, the only fallback path is between default.plymouth and text.plymouth03:15
slangasekdoes /etc/alternatives/default.plymouth point where you expect?03:15
nixternalyup03:15
slangasekcan you post the theme somewhere?03:15
slangaseksounds like the theme is simply failing to load03:15
nixternaloh, no it doesn't03:15
nixternalthere is the problem03:15
slangasekok :)03:15
nixternalhrmm03:15
nemoDid you guys drop libcaca from libSDL?03:15
nemo(Karmic/Lucid)03:16
nixternalhrmm03:18
nixternalstill falls back to ubuntu dangit03:18
nixternalI am guessing we can't use the fade-in example with anything other than ubuntu now slangasek?03:19
slangasekScottK: so there's one flaw in the proposed methodology on foundations-lucid-supportable-binaries: we know whether the source package FTBFS at the beginning of the cycle, but we don't know whether there were binaries *of that version* in the archive at the time without doing a lot of LP parsing; so if the package was FTBFS /at the time it was uploaded/, but has subsequently built, we have no good way to distinguish those binaries that we03:20
slangasek... successfully built *afterwards* from those that were built *earlier*.03:21
slangaseknixternal: what do you mean?03:21
slangasekthe fade-in theme isn't Ubuntu-specific; it doesn't even include an Ubuntu logo03:21
nixternalbut it uses the ubuntu logo no matter what03:22
nixternalwth...I just did the xubuntu-logo theme, and on shutdown it worked, but on startup it went back to the ubuntu logo again03:22
slangasekdid you forget to rebuild an initramfs?03:22
nixternalshush :p03:23
nixternalslangasek: ok, got it working, however the fade-in theme is locked to the ubuntu logo...i have another fade-in theme from fedora that was the stars and it worked yesterday03:26
slangasekScottK: so - if we remove all the binaries that are built from source <= the version that failed in the rebuild test, we risk nuking some that do actually build successfully now, and only FTBFS then because of a bug in a different package03:28
slangasekScottK: I can't say how many packages will be affected by this - if I could say, I wouldn't have to worry in the first place :) - but the number of source packages showing up in my report is much lower than the number in Lucas's latest rebuild03:29
slangasekScottK: so I'm inclined to propose them all for removal anyway03:29
slangaseknixternal: ah yes, I can confirm this in the source - the logo path has to be compiled into the splash plugins, and points at /lib/plymouth/ubuntu-logo.png03:30
slangaseknixternal: so if you want to use one of the other splash plugins with a different logo, you'll need to dpkg-divert /lib/plymouth/ubuntu-logo.png03:30
slangaseknixternal: note that if you do a dpkg diversion of this file in a package, you will need to also Conflict: with any other theme packages that want to divert the same file03:32
slangasek(maybe this should have also been an alternative, hmm)03:32
nixternalslangasek: yeah, I don't feel like doing a divert, so I will go with something else in the mean time03:37
slangaseknixternal: oh, and if this is for packaging, the only base theme that integrates with mountall is the ubuntu-logo theme; so I don't advise basing off any of the others if you're planning to ship this by default for a flavor release03:42
nixternalright, that is what I am basing the kubuntu one off of now03:43
superm1slangasek, is there going to be an alternative for just replacing the logo in the ubuntu-logo theme?  it seems kind of silly to reproduce all the logic in the script in individual themes and have to keep up with syncing it all the time then03:45
slangaseksuperm1: if you're only replacing the logo and want to leave the colors and fonts the same, dpkg-divert on the logo would do the job; but an alternative may be the better way to go for scalability, so I'd suggest filing a bug on plymouth about this and I'll talk to Keybuk on Monday03:50
superm1oh yeah, i forgot that the default background for ubuntu-logo isn't black, so some folks might not want that03:51
superm1i'll file a bug though still03:52
slangaseksuperm1: hum, see my follow-up04:15
slangaseksuperm1: perhaps that unblocks you for what you're trying to do04:16
superm1slangasek, yeah that should help a lot, thanks!04:17
ScottKslangasek: What about doing on the list at the start of the cycle and still out of date?04:28
ScottKI think that gets us to the same place.04:29
slangasekScottK: that misses packages that are up-to-date because they built prior to lucid and haven't been uploaded since04:29
slangasekScottK: so do we want the false-positives, or the false-negatives?04:29
ScottKRight.04:29
ScottKslangasek: On the list at the start of the cycle and (still out of date or version == the version on the list)?04:31
slangasekthat runs into the same false positives as before04:32
slangasekit doesn't tell us if it was on the list at the start of the cycle because of a bug in the package, or a bug in its build-deps04:33
ScottKslangasek: We don't care why, just that we can't build it.04:33
slangasekit doesn't tell us we /can't/ build it, it tells us we /couldn't/ build it then04:34
ScottKOK.  One more try.04:34
slangasekI'm ok to say "yes, we may be removing packages that build fine now in the rare case that they built before, failed to build in November, and are buildable again today"04:35
slangasekI just want to be clear that this is what we're saying04:35
ScottKCheck that list against the latest rebuild list.04:36
slangasekah, that works04:37
ScottKIf it isn't on that list, then it's OK.  If it's not out of date, ignore it, if it's out of date, give it a retry.04:37
ScottKDoes that work?04:37
slangasekyep (hmm, which of us is lagged? :)04:38
psusiwell that was messed up... had to delete my firefox profile to get it to stop inserting the wrong file in the upload dialog on lp... it kept putting in the one above the one I clicked.... in the process I noticed two other things really fubar... the first was ctrl-alt-F1 no longer switches to a tty, and the second is when I logged in a guest session, it got access denied trying to ls /home despite the fact that /home is world readable04:39
psusiwere either of those last two intentional?  and if so, how the hell was the second one done? ;)04:39
slangasekthe guest session is done with apparmor04:40
slangasekctrl-alt-f1 is not intentional04:40
psusiplymouth bug?04:40
slangasekno04:41
slangaseknot unless you're running an old version of plymouth04:41
psusijust upgraded04:41
ScottKslangasek: I was lagged.  My wifi router was bought when we had one wifi device in the house.  I think we have about 10 now.  Every now and then it has a conniption.04:42
ScottKAlso we have 4 7 year olds over for a slumber party tonight, so every now and then, I have to go restore order.04:43
psusigrrr.... well I guess that explains it... still very frustrating getting access denied on something world readable, heh...04:43
slangasekScottK: right - cross-referencing with http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi removes 103 source packages from the cull list, leaving 12504:55
ScottKI'm suprised it's not more.  That's good news I guess.04:56
ScottKOf the 103 are any currently out of date and needing to be tried again?04:56
ScottKIf there are, shoot me a list and I'll take care of them.04:56
slangasekhmm, let me see05:00
slangasekScottK: libpoe-component-client-dns-perl is the only one05:07
ScottKOK.  I'll have a look05:07
ScottKThanks.05:07
ScottKRetried, we'll see.05:08
ScottKslangasek: Odd.  The retry on that failed.05:16
* ScottK throws up his hands and says "Perl, meh!"05:16
slangasekis it possible that it failed to be included in lucas's latest rebuild run at all?05:16
slangasek(the page I'm pulling from only shows me confirmed failures, it doesn't confirm the names of the packages that succeeded)05:17
ScottKPerhaps.05:17
ScottKMaybe lucas will read the scrollback and check.05:17
slangaseklucas: ^^ :)05:17
slangasek"t/06_hosts.t" - looks suspiciously like a test suite whose success depends on the buildd environment's network config05:19
ScottKWouldn't suprise me.  Since it's arch all it never hits a buildd in Debian.05:20
geniiI'm affected by bug 545585  , 2 days ago the bug report says "This bug was fixed in the package linux - 2.6.32-18.27"   Is there a timeline when -18 will be in the repositories?05:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 545585 in linux "lucid iwlagn free more than tfds_in_queue" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54558505:28
crimsungenii: it's already in the repo.05:29
geniicrimsun: Weird. dist-upgrade reports nothing available (I'm still on -17 but using -16 for stability due to this bug)05:30
crimsungenii: your mirror probably hasn't synced yet05:31
geniiStrange. apt-cache search shows it but dist-upgrade reports no kernel updates.05:33
* genii manually installs05:34
wgrantIt looks like the new linux-meta isn't out yet.05:37
wgrantThat's required to pull in the new ABI.05:37
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diwicHow do I easiest make a debug build of a package?07:28
wgrantdiwic: There are pre-built debug symbols for all packages in the archive. See ddebs.ubuntu.com07:29
diwicwgrant, yes, I've tried that, but when I try to debug the line just jumps up and down, I guess I need to build with -O0 to avoid that07:30
diwici e when I press "next" in ddd/gdb the next line is often not the expected one07:31
diwicI guess, due to aggressive inlining and other optimizations07:32
lucasslangasek: yes, tests hanged, so I had to kill it manually => did not fail, but did not succeed.09:01
slangaseklucas: could you give me a list of those?09:01
lucasslangasek: on http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~lucas/ubuntu-nbs/, there are files with the full results on i386 and amd6409:04
slangaseklucas: so the 'Unknown's in http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~lucas/ubuntu-nbs/res.lucid.{i386,amd64} are what I'm looking for?09:13
peciskkenvandine, ping? :)10:40
geserslangasek: removals in Debian are still imported into lucid, right? or are removal bugs needed?11:01
gnomefreakwere the daily alt. ISo's moved?11:03
gnomefreakhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ doesnt have them11:03
lifelessgnomefreak: releases.ubuntu.com11:07
gnomefreaklifeless: those are daily builds? why wasnt desktop image moved11:09
gnomefreakhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ has daily desktop11:09
gnomefreakreleases.ubuntu is the latest released ISO (beta1)11:11
sabdflslangasek: what's the protocol to request a sync from Debian now, for schroedinger?11:12
lifelesssabdfl: well, its a new upstream, so requestsync --lp -d unstable -e schroedinger11:29
lifelessunless 1.0.8->1.0.9 is bugfix only from upstream, in which case drop the -e11:29
mattnhi11:36
mattni'm trying to build a package that adds a new entry to /etc/services11:36
mattnis there a debian-way to do this?11:36
peciskmattn, why would you do that?11:38
mattnto see the service when doing netstat -l for my package ;)11:39
mattnor should one not add local services at all?11:39
lifelesssubmit a patch to netbase11:39
aburchActually, ask IANA (see the header of /etc/services)11:40
lifelessaburch: actually, I think you need to see the header :)11:41
LaneyI'm getting this aptitude core reasonably reliably now11:41
lifeless"or are needed by a Debian package" is in that header.11:41
lifelessmattn: you could see the nmap package, a comment in services suggests that nmap might add more, in some fashion.11:41
mattngood idea - thanks11:42
mattnlooks like it delivers some own service file11:43
cjwatsonlifeless: (gnomefreak has left, but FYI) daily builds are never on releases.u.c - if they're missing from cdimage, it's because the build failed (probably several times in succession)11:45
cjwatsongeser: you need to file removal bugs - semi-automatic removal processing stops at DIF11:46
lifelesscjwatson: oh, ok12:46
lifelesscjwatson: thanks12:47
WoAnergeshi guys!14:10
WoAnergeshave VAIO with "ATI mobility radeon HD 4570" and Intel Core2 DUO T6600 @ 2.2GHz.14:10
WoAnergescan't install ubuntu 10.04 normally. problems with video appearance.14:10
WoAnergesneed help.14:10
WoAnergesi know - the image in attachment - it looks like video card owerheat, but it's not an owerheat of vc processor. i am sure about that, because i had a vc that was damaged by owerheating. this is not that case. i think there's a compability problem with laptop hardware. dear development team,,, you must fix it :S14:11
WoAnergesdon't leave me without ubuntu. (=14:11
WoAnergeshttp://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=151676&d=126975032614:11
azeemWoAnerges: please ask in #ubuntu14:12
WoAnergesthey sent me here14:12
WoAnerges:(14:12
WoAnergesi feel like in a hospital!!!14:12
lucasslangasek: yes15:45
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BenHoltzhey everyone i need some help with my ubuntu instalation.  I have upgraded to the 10.04 version and I'm having problems with grub loading.  Can someone point me in the right direction to re-configuring grub?16:39
BenHoltzi just  read the topic, i will take this to #ubuntu16:40
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slangasekgeser: I think a removal bug is a good idea18:13
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ari-tczewcan we add a patchsystem in SRU?18:33
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blistovoi. Lucid Beta, up to date as of this minute, host disk is a single 7500RPM SATA2 disk which moves ~90MBps, ext3/ext4 fs, libvirt/kvm linux guests get ~20MBps max, and windows guests get <4MBps max, using any emulation mode (ide/scsi/usb, and virtio for linux)18:50
blistovIf I put the guest image on dev/shm, I get about 20MBps in Windows guests and about 250MBps in Linux guests.18:51
blistovAny idea's?  Haven't found any bug report yet.18:51
sladenblistov: file one please18:52
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blistovsladen, do you think this should be filed under kvm or libvirt?  Same response from qemu.19:09
cnd_miniI'm working to clean up the linux-firmware-nonfree package, and I've come across the lintian tag stating that there's no valid copyright statement in debian/copyright19:10
cnd_miniI'm not sure who the copyright should be assigned to19:10
cnd_miniit's a native package with no upstream, and it's just a bunch of non-distributable firmware files19:11
sladenblistov: you can attach the same bug to both19:20
sladenblistov: eg. created it again qemu, then click "also affects distribution (Ubuntu)" and add kvm/etc19:21
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cjwatsonari-tczew: please don't - just work with whatever's in place right now20:27
cjwatsoncnd_mini: there doesn't have to be a single answer - you're supposed to list all the copyright statements and licences and which parts of the package they apply to20:28
psusicjwatson, you get a chance to look at my last revision of the parted patch?20:54
jonocan anyone tell me where the purple ubuntu wallpaper lives on an ubuntu system21:02
zygajono: I think it's called warty-final21:03
zygajust dpkg -S warty21:03
zygait should find it21:04
zygait's in /usr/share/backgrounds AFAIR21:04
* psusi kicks debugfs... says there are extra inode fields there, but won't show what they are or let you manipulate them21:06
rlameirowhat is the name of the propietary drivers installer?21:11
crimsun_jockey?21:12
rlameirook21:12
rlameirook jockey gives me this error SystemError: installArchives() failed21:14
rlameirotrying to install a broadcom driver21:14
rlameirodoes anyone here come into this?21:14
zygarlameiro: did you run it from command line?21:16
rlameiroyes21:16
rlameirozyga, it doesnt output nothing21:16
rlameirodoes it have a verbose option?21:16
rlameirono it doesnt have verbose option21:17
rlameiroit just output a error message saying21:17
rlameiroSystemError: installArchives() failed21:18
zygahmm, if it's written in python (SystemError hints that)21:18
zygait probably has a log file somewhere, can you check the source code of what it does?21:19
rlameirotry to look at it21:20
cjwatsonpsusi: I haven't been at my laptop all day, sorry21:23
zygarlameiro: me?21:23
rlameirozyga, no, me :D21:24
rlameiroI didnt find anything21:24
psusicjwatson, ahh, ok... well I'm satisfied with those parted changes and have gone back to working on e2defrag... hope you get them in for beta 221:24
cjwatsonpsusi: I certainly intend to!  I want to get those bugs closed21:25
zygarlameiro: did you run jockey-gtk or jockey-text?21:25
cjwatsonpsusi: it's on my list for Monday21:25
rlameirogtk version21:25
rlameirozyga running the text version now21:26
zygarlameiro: I'm checking the source now, please run the text version21:26
rlameiroit outputs nothing21:26
rlameirojust says searchinf for available drivers and then quits21:26
zygarlameiro: I ran jockey-gtk via strace to check if it opens any files but it seems not to21:28
zygaso chances for log files are none21:28
rlameiroin text mode i made this21:28
rlameiro sudo jockey-text -e kmod:wl21:28
rlameiroand the result was exactly the same21:28
rlameiroi think there are some bugs already21:29
rlameirobut this on beta1,21:29
rlameiroi am running ubuntustudio, could it be for that?21:29
zygarlameiro: I think that some part of jockey is catching exceptions and not showing the backtrace21:30
zygarlameiro: I don't know21:30
rlameirozyga, maybe jockey is calling some lib or other script ...21:30
rlameirodo i have a way to know that?21:31
zygarlameiro: most likely apt stuff21:31
rlameirowithout having to read all the code :D21:31
zygarlameiro: yes, check what it imports21:31
zygano21:31
zyga:-)21:31
zygajust see the imports21:31
rlameirolol21:31
zygaand imports of imports that don't look like standard python stuff or gtk stuff that cannot possibly install software21:31
rlameirowell it imports a lot of dbus stuff21:33
rlameiroand oslib...21:33
zygarlameiro: I think the actuall stuff is somewhere inside jokey's libraries21:34
rlameirozyga, well21:35
rlameiroi will ty to reboot now and see how it goes21:35
rlameirocya21:35
rlameirozyga, it works now21:39
zygarlameiro: I checked oslib, it imports apt module21:39
rlameiroIt seams that the problem might be related with the indexing of the apt list or something...21:39
rlameirothis is straight from install21:40
rlameiroit shouldn't happen21:40
rlameirofort the firstcommers this can be very scary :D21:40
zygarlameiro: you should file a bug about that though21:45
zygarlameiro: include the output from jockey21:45
zygaif anything the error handling code should be more user friendly21:45
rlameirozyga, what is the handling code?21:46
zygawell the details are not important unless you want to fix this and dig deeper21:46
zygabut the part that broke was this:21:46
zygathe UI was bad21:46
zygasomething was not working21:46
zygabut the UI didn't tell you anything about which part is broken21:47
rlameiroyeap21:47
zygadidn't include any logs or any other reference for tracking this for power users21:47
rlameirobut the text version had the same problem also21:47
zygadid you run apt-get update or similar before rebooting?21:47
zygarlameiro: yes, both versions didn't handle that error condition very well21:47
rlameirono21:47
rlameirook21:47
zygarlameiro: so it was fixed by magic, that's not good21:47
zygaI was hoping you can still reproduce it21:47
rlameirook i will file that bug21:48
rlameiroso i will file that on jockey bugs21:48
rlameirois there some tool to give info of my sistem, so devs can now?21:48
rlameirozyga, for reproducing it i will need to do a fresh install again :D21:49
zygasince jockey itself didn't crash nothing can help us directly21:49
zygaI think it's best to include the actual output21:49
rlameirook21:49
rlameiromaybe i go and ask about it on ubuntu-bugs21:49
zyga(and the commands you launched)21:49
zygaas well as the fact that reboot fixed the problem21:49
rlameirook21:50
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rlameirozyga22:20
rlameiro!bug #55050322:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 550503 in jockey "at first boot, Jockey cant activate the broadcom driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55050322:20
rlameiroyou can go ther if you want22:20
rlameiroi did mentioned you22:20
rlameiro:d22:20
* psusi is deeper into the innards of the ext4 fs than any human ever should be...22:42
dottedmagpsusi: So Theodore Ts'o is not a human? Is he a superhuman officially now? :)22:46
psusihehehe.... if I could have him over my shoulder working on this ancient code of his I would ;)22:46
psusithis stuff was written when dinosaurs ruled the earth...22:47
psusiand now I'm going over the new headers trying to figure out what has changed and update it to use the new features... like extents22:47
psusididn't ted used to hang out in here?  not seen him lately22:50
arandDaviey: If not already aware (sorry if), plymouth-theme has now switched over to be provided by lubuntu-plymouth-theme instead of mythbuntu-default-settings, also Bug #550237 exists.23:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 550237 in plymouth "[lucid] update to lucid shows as mythbuntu and doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55023723:31
Davieyarand: I don't think it's a bug with mythbuntu tbh23:34
superm1arand, i think the recommends of plymouth need to be fixed to recommend "plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text | plymouth-themes" instead.23:34
Davieylubuntu-plymouth-theme is alphabetically before myth*, which is why you are now seeing lubuntu*23:34
superm1Yup23:35
arandYea, it's in the recommends  pulled in by plymouth that the issue lies, I assume23:36
slangasekhmm, fixoring plymouth then23:36
arandWouldn't recommending plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo have a place as well?23:36
slangasekarand: metapackages will already pull in -ubuntu-logo by default, and it's an open question whether we want that on server; we only need to recommend one default, so -text should be it23:37
arandAh, ok23:38
* slangasek uploads the fix23:40
arandSo I can set a confirmed for the plymouth task then at least, to get some communication out to the bug-lookers?23:40
slangasekif you do it fast :)23:40
psusihrm.... odd.... /etc/mke2fs.conf says in the defaults section to use 256 byte inodes, but does not set the extra_isize flag... I don't think you're supposed to do that... if it isn't 128 bytes that flag should be set....23:40
slangasekarand: please also advise them to manually remove lubuntu-plymouth-theme / mythbuntu-default-settings23:41
arandslangasek: Done, so the updated package won't solve things automatically for people who alreadty installed it?23:41
slangasekarand: nope, an update won't cause these theme packages to be kicked out23:42
Davieythe joy of running beta :)23:45
superm1slangasek, as it stands today, plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo appears to be a dependency of ubuntu-standard.  should that perhaps be moved to the desktop and netbook seeds respectively so that server doesn't pull in the logo'd themes too?23:46
Davieysuperm1: I think the logo'd theme is "as designed" :(23:46
slangaseksuperm1: as I said, it's "an open question" :)23:47
Davieyi'm meaning to see how that works with serial console.23:47
arandslangasek: Are those reasonable instructions: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/404764/ ?23:47
* Daviey will sulk and throw his toys if serial console is busted. :)23:47
slangasekarand: sure23:49
slangaseksuperm1: bug #54895423:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 548954 in ubuntu-meta "Ubuntu servers should display information during boot by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54895423:49
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