[04:08] <lfaraone> There's no way for an API application to modify your SSH keys, is there?
[04:14] <lifeless> could be
[04:14] <lfaraone> Example, groundcontrol used to script the login process to do the initial user setup, copying over keys etc, but that broke when there was a change in the LP login method. Is there a "better" way we can accomplish the same thing without having to SRU every time LP changes something in the webif?
[04:14] <lifeless> if the ssh keys are exposed over the api
[04:14] <lifeless> if they aren't, you can add them
[04:14] <lifeless> and propose a patch
[04:15] <lfaraone> lifeless: nothing in 1.0 or devel included the word "ssh", so no :(
[04:16] <lfaraone> lifeless: Imagine I have a few years' work with Python, but none with Zope or Storm. Would it be feasable for me to add the functionality and get it merged before... say... lucid comes out?
[04:20] <lfaraone> lifeless: more direct question, the component in question would be the lp registry, right?
[04:21] <lfaraone> looks like somebody beat me to it, bug 357235
[04:26] <dickelbeck> hi, need help on a "question" at launchpad
[04:27] <dickelbeck> 105477
[04:28] <lifeless> lfaraone: pop into #launchpad-dev, you'll get help
[04:28] <spm> ah yes. I never did get to that on friday.... ran out of time.
[04:30] <dickelbeck> spm: are you talking to me?
[04:30] <spm> dickelbeck: yup
[04:31] <dickelbeck> spm: if patience is the requirement, and it has a payoff, I', all in.
[04:31] <spm> heh; it's a moderately complexish task; and doing it last thing on a friday is not my idea of a Good Thing™ :-)
[04:35] <dickelbeck> spm: the mbox file represents a snapshot, and the old list is still in use.  the problem then becomes that the longer the delay, the bigger the hole in the continuity of the historical record becomes.  So thanks in advance for getting this done ASAP.
[04:36] <spm> ahh I see. I shall endeavour to get that done in the next few hours then.
[04:41] <dickelbeck> spm: I you don't mind then, I will point you to a different file, updated with all the latest postings.  Thanks a million.
[04:41] <spm> sure
[04:45] <dickelbeck> spm: Wonderful, just a few more minutes.
[04:46] <spm> dickelbeck: np; I'm stuck on another task I'm trying to complete within the next 40 mins anyway; so no super urgent rush.
[05:13] <dickelbeck> spm: the updated kicad-develop mbox file is now http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/wCWwS1zsqBkDG8GD_eIBb0U2i5R8VUlZzYyxwE_sAfefDAm43CHG_qxMLkid3gS36j7L69-ovb754ggNbSjbKAGxOiladx0b1A/kicad-devel.mbox.bz2
[05:14] <spm> nice url! ta
[06:22] <davidstrauss> How can I set up a project container for other projects?
[06:24] <RAOF> The launchpad terminology for that is a “project group”, I believe.
[06:25] <RAOF> You need to ask for one in question on Launchpad answers.
[06:26] <davidstrauss> RAOF: thanks
[06:36] <spm> davidstrauss: exactly what RAOF said; plus if you can explain why you want it and the like; it's invariably the first question back you'll be asked. May be worthwhile checking a few other requests for same to get the vibe. ??
[06:37] <davidstrauss> spm: Thanks. Posted: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/105874
[10:35] <ubuntujenkins> I am rather new to this ppa lark it took four hours to get it right i have jsut got this rejection, i have followed the link but I can't uderstand how the instructions will help me File quickshot_0.0.8.tar.gz already exists in Quickshot Daily, but uploaded version has different contents. See more information about this error in https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors.
[10:35] <ubuntujenkins> Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification.
[10:36] <ubuntujenkins> ?I already ahve a package in the ppa but it is a daily ppa and i need to update it
[10:39] <Hobbsee> you need to bump the version each time
[10:40] <Hobbsee> version~20100329 would work
[10:40] <bigjools> Hobbsee!
[10:40] <wgrant> Hobbsee! indeed.
[10:40] <wgrant> Haven't seen you around in a while.
[10:40] <bigjools> and on that note I have to rush out
[10:41] <ubuntujenkins> Hobbsee: do I just change it in the setup.py file?
[10:41] <wgrant> ubuntujenkins: If you're generating the tarball daily, try naming it quickshot_0.0.8~bzr20100329.orig.tar.gz, or with a similar VCS-based suffix.
[10:42] <ubuntujenkins> Ok I will have a go
[10:44] <Hobbsee> greetings!
[10:44] <Hobbsee> i lurk and drop in occasionally :)
[10:45] <nigelb> oh, I see a ghost :D
[10:45] <Hobbsee> ubuntujenkins: likely, get it to generate the date and add it to your version numbers in debian/control
[10:47] <ubuntujenkins> that sound the best way Hobbsee, I shall do so
[10:47] <Hobbsee> :)
[10:48] <ubuntujenkins> ok I am a new to allot of programing this year how do i add the date?
[11:09] <ubuntujenkins> This is my debian/control file it was probably generated by quickly http://pastebin.com/2hbC8x3L how do I make the version change in this/
[11:09] <ubuntujenkins> *?
[11:17] <suji11> how to file a needs packaging bug in launchpad?
[11:17] <maxb> ubuntujenkins: What are you trying to do?
[11:18] <ubuntujenkins> maxb I am trying to get the date added to the end of the version number automatically so that i can upload daily builds
[11:19] <maxb> ubuntujenkins: The version of a package is not stored in debian/control. It comes from the top entry in debian/changelog
[11:19] <nigelb> ubuntujenkins, you might want to see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyBuilds/BzrBuilder
[11:21] <ubuntujenkins> O Hobbse said it was in the in the control file, if i follow your link nigelb does that update the change log file automatically?
[11:22] <nigelb> why do you want to update the changelog automatically for a daily build?
[11:22] <maxb> nigelb: uh, because you have to?
[11:23] <nigelb> that is the recipie that folks i know having daily builds use
[11:23] <nigelb> it should use the bzr revision to update stuff
[11:23] <wgrant> bzr-builder updates the changelog automatically.
[11:23] <ubuntujenkins> this couldn't get any more complex
[11:23] <nigelb> wgrant, thanks :)
[11:24] <ubuntujenkins> right i will follow the instructions and ask for more help if needed
[11:24] <ubuntujenkins> thanks guys
[12:32] <ubuntujenkins> I have the revisions system set up right now however my package got rejected with Unhandled exception processing upload: ubuntujenkins@ubuntujenkins-pc is not a valid email address. How do i make the changelog pick up my e-mail and not my computer name?
[12:34] <wgrant> ubuntujenkins: Have you set the DEBMAIL environment variable properly?
[12:34] <ubuntujenkins> I haven't set that variable how do i set it?
[12:42] <ubuntujenkins> I have done export DEBEMAIL="my@emailaddress.com"
[12:42] <ubuntujenkins> export DEBFULLNAME="Full Name" but that makes no difference
[12:43] <ubuntujenkins> obviously replacing them with the right values
[13:10] <ubuntujenkins> any ideas anyone this e-mail thing is causing the build to fail
[13:20] <enseven> Hi there! Is something going on on answers.launchpad.net? I've got a problem in sending more information to an answer. I always get: "Timeout Error: Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad. Error ID: OOPS-1549M1497"
[13:25] <enseven> Anyone awake? Or all busy by resolving this problem? ;-)
[14:34] <enseven> Hi all! Launchpad does not work correctly! Now I get: "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode." So here I am! ;-)
[15:11] <dickelbeck> Can someone help me with "question" 105477  (stm was on it, but if he is not here, I need someone else please.)
[15:14] <dickelbeck> sorry, spm was on it, not stm
[15:19] <dickelbeck> the mbox file represents a snapshot, and the old list has now been suspended so we avoid a hole in the continuity of the historical record.  So thanks in advance for getting this done ASAP.
[15:36] <salgado> enseven, are you still getting that error?
[15:38] <enseven> salgado: Now I posted by e-mail and it was added correctly.
[15:38] <enseven> salgado: Shell I try to add someting more by WWW?
[15:42] <stain> silly question - how can I change my password at launchpad.net ?
[15:43] <nigelb> stain, login.launchpad.net
[15:47] <salgado> enseven, yeah, if you could try adding just a small comment
[15:50] <stain> nigelb: thanks, that works
[15:50] <nigelb> :)
[15:50] <stain> (a link could be great!)
[15:51] <salgado> stain, that link has been added already.  it will be in production after the next rollout
[15:52] <salgado> mthaddon, can you have a go at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+question/105477 ?
[15:53] <enseven> salgado: Now it works. The comment I tried to post before was much longer. Is there a limit of characters to be added?
[15:54] <salgado> enseven, I don't think so, but the length of the comment may be what caused the timeout.  can you reproduce on staging?
[15:54] <mthaddon> salgado: have a few things going on at the moment - is it assigned to ~canonical-losas?
[15:55] <stain> salgado: yay :)
[15:55] <salgado> mthaddon, it is, yes
[15:55] <mthaddon> salgado: ok, we'll get to it when we can
[15:55] <salgado> mthaddon, cool, thanks
[15:56] <enseven> salgado: Reproduce on staging? Sorry, what does that mean?
[15:56] <salgado> dickelbeck, the people who can deal with that are a bit busy now, but they'll get to it as soon as they find some time
[15:58] <salgado> enseven, staging is our sandbox server, where we test things that we don't want to do on production. all changes there are reset
[15:58] <salgado> in this case, you could just try posting that same comment on https://answers.staging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ctdb/+question/105605
[15:59] <dickelbeck> salgado: Understand, but I want to re-emphasize that the old list is off line now, and that puts me in a bad spot politically until the import is completed.  So time is of the essence now.
[16:02] <enseven> salgado: Yes, I could reproduce it right now.
[16:02] <enseven> salgado: timeout again!!!
[16:05] <salgado> enseven, care to report that as a bug at https://launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug ?
[16:07] <salgado> dickelbeck, ack, I'll see if I can get somebody else to have a look
[16:09] <salgado> mbarnett, any chance you can have a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+question/105477 ?
[16:12] <enseven> salgado: There are already two oben bugs that match my problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/403863 & https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/357907
[16:12] <enseven> salgado: shell I add a new one?
[16:13] <salgado> enseven, yeah, these are not the same as the one you encountered
[16:14] <getxsick> ekhem
[16:15] <getxsick> i know its not really realated to LP, however...i try to set p nigtly builds, and obviously i have to sign packages, i use gpg-agent, but for the first time i have to type my pass, is it possible to not typing it?
[16:20] <enseven> salgado: I am adding a new bug. Shell I add the whole text I tried to post? This might only work by e-mail, like it did before. The whole text is 145k characters.
[16:21] <salgado> enseven, you could just link to the question itself (https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ctdb/+question/105605/+index)
[16:26] <mbarnett> salgado: i will try and take a look in a bit.  i am a little buried right at the moment though.
[16:27] <enseven> salgado: Ok. the new bug is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/550954
[16:27] <enseven> salgado: Thanks! :)
[16:28] <salgado> enseven, thank you!
[16:52] <ees1bk> Hi.... I'm trying to get a PPA to work on launchpad - is this the right forum?
[16:53] <tumbleweed> we can probably help, yes
[16:53] <ees1bk> Cheers
[16:53] <ees1bk> I have a package that builds find on an Ubuntu host using debuild.
[16:54] <ees1bk> I've uploaded it with dput (after several failed attempts due to distribution and control file "issues").
[16:54] <tumbleweed> URL for your PPA?
[16:54] <tumbleweed> oh, failure at submission
[16:55] <ees1bk> no, it's now starting the build OK and then bombing out with:
[16:56] <noodles775> ees1bk: I'm just on my way out, but if it's failing on the PPA builders, have you built it successfully using pbuilder locally? (this should setup a very similar env.)
[16:56]  * noodles775 goes for dinner.
[16:56] <ees1bk> dh_installchangelogs -i -k ChangeLog
[16:56] <ees1bk> install: cannot change ownership of `debian/wacs/usr/share/doc/wacs/changelog.Debian': Operation not permitted
[16:56] <ees1bk> dh_installchangelogs: command returned error code 256
[16:56] <ees1bk> pbuilder?  It builds just fine with debuild -uc -us
[16:56] <tumbleweed> ees1bk: why is it trying to change the owenrship?
[16:57] <ees1bk> and I've now fixed the signature part so debuild -S works with -k<myid>
[16:57] <tumbleweed> ees1bk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Intro/Pbuilder
[17:00] <AndrewGee> Hi all. I keep getting "Unexpected form data" error messages when submitting most forms on launchpad. Is there any obvious solution I've missed, or should I perhaps file a bug?
[17:00] <ees1bk> Ummm.... dh_installchangelogs isn't anything to do with me.  I just call it 'cos dh_make put it in the template.
[17:01] <tumbleweed> ees1bk: URL to your PPA please
[17:03] <ees1bk> ppa:beaky/wacs-stable
[17:04] <ees1bk> pbuilder wasn't installed... just taking the steps detailed in the wiki page above.
[17:06] <ees1bk> pbuilder install progress:  I: Base system installed successfully.
[17:08] <ees1bk> pbuilder now installed.  Taking first step from wiki instructions.
[17:14] <ees1bk> now on second step - pbuilder build *.dsc
[17:14] <ees1bk> dh_installchangelogs -i -k ChangeLog
[17:14] <ees1bk> install: cannot change ownership of `debian/wacs/usr/share/doc/wacs/changelog.Debian': Operation not permitted
[17:14] <ees1bk> dh_installchangelogs: command returned error code 256
[17:15] <ees1bk> OK
[17:15] <ees1bk> It fails just the same - what does this tell us?
[17:15] <tumbleweed> sorry, got distracted, downloading your source package now
[17:19] <ees1bk> I checked - I do change the permissions of some files but not the changelog.Debian as far as I can see from my rules file.
[17:20] <ees1bk> ah - actually my postinst does change the modes - wacs-core.postinst:	chmod 0640 $DEBDOCDIR/wacs-core/changelog.Debian.gz
[17:20] <ees1bk> wacs-core.postinst:	chmod 0640 $DEBDOCDIR/wacs-core/changelog.gz
[17:21] <ees1bk> not sure I understand why this should be a problem though....
[17:22] <ees1bk> or why dh_installchangelogs should be trying to implement this rather than the postinst script which to my understanding
[17:22] <ees1bk> should be run at installtime.
[17:23] <tumbleweed> that's a pretty complicated rules file. You could simplify it a lot by getting dh_install to do the hard work for you
[17:23] <ees1bk> I tried and had one helluva battle.
[17:24] <ees1bk> dh_install really didn't seem to grok the multiple target packages and the fact some are noarch, sorry all, and others are binary packages.
[17:25] <ees1bk> The packages need to be separate to keep administration tools separate from pure web delivery tools.
[17:25] <ees1bk> Internet facing web servers will typically not have the administration tools.
[17:26] <ees1bk> or the download toolchest, or the samples files.
[17:28] <tumbleweed> what's with install/debian?
[17:30] <ees1bk> all the installation codes - manual install scripts, post-installation setup webapp, and RPM .spec files all live in install.  The debian stuff went in there for compatibility and has a top-level symlink of debian -> install/debian to make it all work.
[17:43] <ees1bk> any thoughts tumbleweed?  Can this be made to work?
[18:00] <ees1bk> I really need to head home now.  I'll read any further messages on this chat in the morning, or email me at beaky@beaky.name
[18:01] <ees1bk> Cheers and thanks for taking a look.
[18:23] <getxsick> i have a problem with running debuild from a crontab. the problem is with signing packages. gpg: cannot open `/dev/tty': No such device or address
[18:23] <getxsick> how can i pass --no-tty into gpg through debuild?
[18:27] <salgado> getxsick, I think you'll have a better chance of getting an answer on #ubuntu-packaging or other development channels from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[18:31] <maxb> salgado: I triggered a branch upgrade via the web UI on ~maxb/bzr-git/pull-non-HEAD-refs, and it seems have finished but silently failed (the branch format is still 1.9-rich-root). Are there logs you can peek at?
[18:33] <salgado> maxb, I don't think I can
[18:36] <dickelbeck> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+question/105477  ?
[18:36] <lamalex> Will launchpad ever get a wiki? Blueprints are a good idea but theyre so underpowered needing an external wiki
[18:37] <jpds> lamalex: bug #240067
[18:40] <salgado> dickelbeck, someone will get to it soon.  sorry for the delay, but all the people who have the rights to do that are busy doing deployments
[18:51] <elb> HAH
[18:52] <elb> I don't know if anyone remembers, but I thought I was having trouble 2-3 days ago because my signing address and my LP primary address mismatched
[18:52] <elb> the LP emails from my PPA submissions from then just trickled in
[18:52] <elb> apparently they were just in la-la-land for a few days
[18:53] <elb> and the hangup was on my provider's end, nothing on canonical's end
[18:54] <elb> they just inexplicably sat in a queuefrom Fri 26 Mar 2010 23:37:36 -0400 until Mon 29 Mar 2010 13:40:03 -0400 :-P
[18:59] <lamalex> jpds: thanks
[20:14] <shakaran> hi, what is the channel for launchpad builds?
[20:16] <geser> channel?
[20:18] <shakaran> irc, sorry I dont speak very well english
[20:18] <geser> what is the problem you have?
[20:20] <shakaran> I have a problem with launchpad libs. They need a libc6 version different for each ubuntu distro (from hardy to lucid)
[20:20] <geser> for your PPA?
[20:21] <shakaran> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42360185/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.tivion_0.0.4-0ubuntu1~karmic_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz for example here fails to build
[20:21] <shakaran> https://launchpad.net/~shakaran/+archive/ppa this is my ppa
[20:22] <geser> so these are pre-compiled binaries?
[20:22] <sheldon> hi, i canceled my home and now i dont have my gpg anymore to upload to my ppa
[20:23] <sheldon> how can i recover it?
[20:23] <geser> restore from your backup
[20:24] <sheldon> i dont have a backup of my home
[20:24] <shakaran> i use sp-sc-auth binary for sopcast (It dont have a ubuntu package) so I add to my project that binary, but fails to build the .deb
[20:25] <geser> then your key is lost forever, and your only option is to create a new one (and create a backup this time)
[20:27] <sheldon> thanks geser
[20:29] <geser> shakaran: ouch, is sp-sc-auth open source?
[20:34] <shakaran> geser: sopcatst isn't open-source, but it dont have any license http://download.easetuner.com/download/sp-auth.tgz  I think that it is public domain
[20:34] <geser> shakaran: from what I found out, sp-sc-auth looks pretty non-free, and can't be included in a PPA (see the PPA terms-of-use) and including it in your .orig.tar.gz violates the GPL as you don't ship a source for it
[20:36] <shakaran> it is close source, but free software. http://www.sopcast.com/download/
[20:36] <shakaran> see linux downloads
[20:36] <shakaran> I just found this http://code.google.com/p/sopcast-player/downloads/list
[20:39] <shakaran> From copyright file in .deb sopcast: The Debian packaging is:   Copyright C) 2009, Jason Scheunemann <jason.scheunemann@yahoo.com> and is licensed under the GPL, see above.
[20:41] <geser> shakaran: the sopcast-player can be packaged as it's GPL, but sp-auth is freely downloadable but no Free Software (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Software)
[20:42] <shakaran> then, I cannot include on my .deb?
[20:42] <geser> no, you can't include it
[20:42] <shakaran> jum, then how to offer to the users?
[20:43] <geser> but you still can package tivion (as it's GPL) but has to rely that your users install sp-auth on their own
[20:44] <shakaran> jum, well, I remove the binary then, and make other build
[20:45] <shakaran> Maybe, if I contact with the autor he make a updated package
[20:46] <zyga> kiko: hi
[20:46] <zyga> kiko: I just checked you work with the launchpad team :)
[20:47] <kiko> zyga, yeah, it's actually true :)
[20:47] <kiko> zyga, how are you doing?
[20:48] <zyga> kiko: I'm great
[20:48] <zyga> I wasn't sure about your timezone exactly :-)
[20:48] <zyga> wow, so I'm in now :-)
[20:48] <kiko> zyga, I'm in brazil, so I'm easy
[20:48] <zyga> I cannot tell you how cool that is for me
[20:48] <kiko> zyga, yeah, congratulations :)
[20:50] <zyga> kiko: I really don't want to wait till may, argh :-) is there anything I can do before I officialy start
[20:51] <zyga> kiko: I have so many questions I want to ask
[20:51] <zyga> kiko: what is the best place to talk about everything?
[20:53] <kiko> heh
[20:53] <kiko> one step at a time!
[21:23] <dickelbeck> how many people can actually do this?  was there a release today or something?  https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+question/105477
[21:37] <salgado> dickelbeck, very few people can do that.  and yes, they're working on a release of another project, but they've told me they're nearly done and then will be able to take care of that question
[21:47] <lfaraone> wgrant: so, how would you suggest GC handles this?
[21:47] <lfaraone> (re bug 527978)
[21:50] <orbarron> all: Does anyone here know how to create Lucid's rootfs? I am running the following --> sudo ./rootstock --fqdn devboard --login ubuntu --password pwd --imagesize 2G --dist lucid --serial ttyS2 -- but I am getting stuck on Extracting zliblg
[21:51]  * orbarron not sure if this is the best place to ask... :-/ but thought I'd try here... 
[21:51] <maxb> orbarron: Not really, I'm afraid. launchpad != ubuntu
[21:51] <maxb> I suggest trying someplace related to this 'rootstock' command, which I've never heard about
[22:01] <orbarron> thanks maxb
[22:11] <dickelbeck> salgado: thanks
[22:48] <wgrant> lfaraone: I don't know. I think it should call into the credential management app, but that doesn't exist.
[22:50] <lfaraone> wgrant: hm. well, right now we're just mechanizing the process... that will be a PITA to support in a LTS release.
[22:51] <wgrant> lfaraone: As is supporting a very dangerous API for five years.
[22:52] <wgrant> lfaraone: Don't you already have to manage authentication yourself to get the OAuth token in the first place?
[22:54] <lfaraone> wgrant: right now GC prompts for a LP user name and password, and does not use OAuth at all.
[22:54] <lfaraone> wgrant: (if it does use OAuth, it's after the initial setup)
[22:54] <wgrant> lfaraone: So I don't see a significant problem in doing your in-built authentication process again for adding SSH keys.
[22:54] <wgrant> It's awkward, sure.
[22:55] <shakaran> hi, why fails my build with dpkg-shlibdeps on libm.so.6? I add the path /lib to LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[22:55] <shakaran> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42427994/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-amd64.tivion_0.0.4-0ubuntu4~karmic_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[22:57] <shakaran> Does the launchpad server the library?
[22:57] <shakaran> *Have
[22:59] <GaryvdM> Hi. I'm trying to upload to a ppa using dput. For some reason, it's not uploading the .orig.tar.gz. This is causing me to receive rejected mails. How can I get the .orig.tar.gz uploaded?
[22:59] <geser> GaryvdM: debuild -S -sa
[23:02] <GaryvdM> http://paste.ubuntu.com/406208/
[23:02] <wgrant> debuild -S -sa -i
[23:02] <wgrant> -i will exclude .bzr
[23:02] <GaryvdM> geser: I built with bzr bd -S
[23:02] <GaryvdM> ok - will try
[23:03] <wgrant> bzr bd -S -sa
[23:04] <GaryvdM> http://paste.ubuntu.com/406211/
[23:04] <GaryvdM> debuild -S -sa -i ^
[23:04] <wgrant> That worked fine.
[23:04] <GaryvdM> Should I try upload?
[23:05] <geser> yes
[23:05] <wgrant> if you want to upload it.
[23:05] <jkakar> Hmm, I just got: bzr: ERROR: Invalid http response for https://xmlrpc.edge.launchpad.net/bazaar/: Unable to handle http code 503: Service Unavailable
[23:05] <jkakar> Retrying my 'bzr branch' operation worked.
[23:05] <jkakar> I wonder if a service has fallen over...
[23:05] <wgrant> A 503 is normally a timeout.
[23:06] <wgrant> An appserver falling over is a 502.
[23:09] <GaryvdM> wgrant, geser: Thanks, working now.
[23:10] <GaryvdM> Need to try figure out why. Off to read docs.
[23:34] <shakaran> Hi, I searching for a tutorial o something that explaing how to make a branch for each /debian for .debs on each distribution. some?
[23:38] <GaryvdM> shakaran: For bzr, for updating our ppa, we have scripts to carry out the requried actions per ubuntu version
[23:38] <shakaran> where I can find these scripts?
[23:38] <GaryvdM> see bzr.dev/doc/developers/ppa.txt
[23:40] <shakaran> it is a url? or a doc?
[23:40] <GaryvdM> shakaran: in the bzr code. I'll find url for you now...
[23:43] <shakaran> this? http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.dev/developers/ppa.html
[23:44] <GaryvdM> shakaran: yes
[23:44] <shakaran> thanks, I gonna read
[23:44] <GaryvdM> shakaran: the scripts I was referring to under: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.dev/developers/ppa.html#short-form
[23:46] <shakaran> wow, I need read more. These scripts looks pretty nice.
[23:48] <shakaran> but, I have a problem, I have a local repo in a laptop, and other local repo on my second laptop (from my brother). But when I commit changes, if after I go to the other laptop, I lost all commits when I do bzr merge, because then I have to do a single commit with all merge commits. How I can solve this?
[23:50] <GaryvdM> shakaran:  You lost me a bit. Maybe you need to just pull rather than merge
[23:53] <GaryvdM> shakaran: I think I understand you now. Those commits are not lost. You can see them with bzr log -n0, or bzr qlog
[23:55] <shakaran> umn, but then in lauchpad, if I have 430 commits, I make 30 more, when merge, it says 431, and dont 461
[23:57] <GaryvdM> ... You can see them with bzr log -n0, or bzr qlog
[23:57] <wgrant> Or if the branches have not diverged, you can simply pull from one to the other and preserve the linear history.
[23:57] <shakaran> then on my second laptop, I should do: bzr merge after bzr pull. Right?
[23:58] <wgrant> If the pull worked, merge should do nothing.