[08:29] <dholbach> good morning
[08:42] <Madpilot> morning
[09:30] <elky> topyli, jussi01, tsimpson, seveas found http://i.imgur.com/HL1ZR.jpg to be an appropriate thing to link -ot to. Could one of you have a word with him please
[09:38] <tsimpson> elky: I'm going to bring this up with the other ircc members, I doubt he'll listen to just one of us asking him to behave and I feel some sort of "official" action is required
[09:39] <tsimpson> imo, he's been stepping over the line a lot lately, and if he was anyone else something would have been done
[09:39] <tsimpson> which is not a valid excuse for nothing being done...
[09:39] <elky> yeah, and i don't feel like invoking his fanclub right now
[10:16] <jussi01> Tm_T: Tm_T... I found your new plasma theme... :D http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/ascii1.png
[10:18] <Tm_T> jussi01: believe or not, I've been designing something that kind
[10:18] <jussi01> Tm_T: yeah, I beleive you....
[10:27] <jussi01> Peoples, If I may remind you all to contribute to the OP guide at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nhandler/OperatorGuide
[10:28] <jussi01> We still have some empty categories
[10:28] <jussi01> You all have wiki rights, so please, lets see some edits :)
[10:32] <Tm_T> "rule #1 Dont do like I do"
[10:32]  * Tm_T hides
[14:45] <elky> is the ban list full again?
[14:48] <elky> nope, looks fine
[14:55] <gord> oh, that reminds me
[15:09] <elky> the webchat took in the order of minutes to sync so i could quit it, it's probably being hammered
[15:49] <Trek> is there an ubottu command that talks about some topic making someone uncomfortable?
[15:49] <Tm_T> !stop
[15:49] <Tm_T> hmm
[15:50] <Tm_T> perhaps there better ones, but that's the one I know
[15:50] <Trek> i searched the factoids db, didn't see anything
[15:50] <Trek> where do I recommend an ubottu edit?
[15:51] <Tm_T> just spout them to ubottu and they will be directed to here
[15:51] <Tm_T> Trek: or, discuss in -irc about 'em
[15:51] <Trek> *shrugs* so I could just go to -irc and bother them?
[15:52] <Trek> that works for me :P
[17:08] <Trek> is @lart broke
[17:08] <Trek> on ubottu
[17:08] <Trek> oh, it was removed...?
[17:08] <jpds> Trek: Just off I guess.
[17:09] <Trek> *shrugs*
[17:09] <Trek> i guess someone issued the command unload lart
[17:09] <jussi01> !lart
[17:09] <Trek> figures
[17:09] <Trek> i wonder who disabled it...
[17:09] <Trek> *shrugs*
[17:09] <jussi01> o/
[17:10] <Trek> *stares at jussi01 with a blank expression on his face*
[17:10] <Trek> er...
[17:10] <Trek> s/blank/neutral
[17:10] <jussi01> Trek: is there an issue?
[17:11] <Trek> not really, just wondering why it was turned off, I kind of liked the larts it had
[17:11] <Trek> not that I like lartting
[17:11] <Trek> just that it had some good larts in its database
[17:11] <Trek> *goes off to find a copy of the Ubottu lart database*
[17:11] <jussi01> Trek: #ubuntu-irc is a better place for this discussion
[17:11] <Trek> yah i know
[17:11] <Trek> i'm just talking is all :P
[17:11] <Trek> i'm leaving now anyways
[18:04] <jussi01> Trek: what can I help you with?
[18:04] <Trek> i was going to ask whether Ubottu was lagging, it took a few minutes to respond to a PN
[18:04] <Trek> PM*
[18:05] <Trek> i chalked it up to high network congestion
[18:05] <Trek> sorry for dropping in
[20:22] <Trek> is anyone watching the #ubuntu channel for unruly peoples?
[20:23] <Trek> we could use an op to talk someone down
[20:28] <mneptok> dealt with
[20:32] <TheSheep> anybody had problems with nikolam recently?
[20:35] <jussi01> TheSheep: ^^
[20:35] <jussi01> TheSheep: in otherwords, yes
[20:36]  * jussi01 prods at mneptok
[20:40]  * jussi01 goes to bed
[20:41] <Tm_T> jussi01: sleep well
[20:42] <mneptok> nikolam: yes?
[20:42] <mneptok> nikolam: you were banned after repeated attempts to inform you of channel policies were met with "go away"
[20:43] <mneptok> nikolam: this tells me you're not listening to the advice, will not follow the policies, and are dismissive of and unconcerned with the channel guidelines.
[20:43] <nikolam> why am I on this channel? I am not op.
[20:43] <mneptok> nikolam: i banned you from #ubuntu, and forwarded you here.
[20:43] <nikolam> mneptok, I never kicked in LIFE from channel
[20:44] <nikolam> And I was always polite. I was telling messages from bot are annoying.
[20:44] <mneptok> nikolam: well, that just changed, due to your dismissive attitude.
[20:44] <nikolam> And numerous people incuding you find that amusing.
[20:44] <mneptok> 13:22 < nikolam_> mneptok, please GO AWAY
[20:44] <nikolam> My attitude is>
[20:44] <mneptok> 13:24 < nikolam_> mneptok, go away, with messages, will you
[20:45] <mneptok> that is not polite.
[20:45] <nikolam> Bots are annoying. I like people better.
[20:45] <nikolam> And no, when someone spamming me with messages for no reaseon thta is not polite.
[20:45] <mneptok> i am a person. and when i told you politely what the channel rules are, you told me to "go away"
[20:46] <nikolam> I think channel rules are also do not spam people on channel and you are doing it.
[20:46] <nikolam> Ok, I am stoping this conversation
[20:46] <mneptok> as is your perogative.
[20:46] <nikolam> You acted very much wrong
[20:46] <Tm_T> nikolam: trying to tell you how the channel runs is not spamming
[20:47] <nikolam> And I have no reason to continue being stupid
[20:47] <nikolam> Tm_T, well, when 7 people tryes to "help" you about thayt, including Bot messages, that is mostly that
[20:47] <nikolam> all i did is ONCE changed nick i were not changing for Eons
[20:48] <nikolam> ok, have a good nighs
[20:48] <nikolam> night
[20:48] <mneptok> nikolam: you could have replied, "OK, sorry. i did not know that nick changes for /away were not welcome. i will stop." and the discussion would have ended.
[20:48] <mneptok> *sigh*
[20:48]  * TheSheep remarks upon the paradox of messaging someone who you think is a bot to go away
[20:49] <mneptok> nikolam: do you wish to discuss this issue further?
[20:50] <nikolam> yes and no. Not now . other time perhaps.
[20:50] <mneptok> then please leave this channel until you are ready t talk about it. notice the /topic
[20:51] <nikolam> I leaved it i think I mistakingly joined. Can I join on ubuntu now?
[20:51] <mneptok> no.
[20:51] <nikolam> reason?
[20:52] <mneptok> because you are still dismissive of the rules, and do not see any problem with your behavior when people are trying to inform you of the rules.
[20:52] <nikolam> I am not dismissive to the rules
[20:52] <nikolam> And yes I find spamming about rules annoying after 2-3 years on channel
[20:53] <mneptok> when someone tells you "this is the rule" the correct response is not "GO AWAY"
[20:53] <nikolam> I did nothing wrong
[20:53] <nikolam> When people spam you with messages and you actually do not know who is op, then it is.
[20:53] <mneptok>  /msg ChanServ access #ubuntu list
[20:54] <nikolam> Maybe next time i should respond back with Pvt with that, i see
[20:54] <Tm_T> nikolam: the answer is never "go away"
[20:54] <mneptok> 13:24 < Trek> !op | nikolam_ is being unruly (in my opinion) in #ubuntu
[20:54] <mneptok> 13:24 < ubottu> nikolam_ is being unruly (in my opinion) in #ubuntu: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) -  elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!
[20:54] <nikolam> Tm_T, is that something wrong. I see maybe someone would think it about channel , i see
[20:54] <mneptok> after that i said:
[20:55] <mneptok> 13:24 < mneptok> nikolam_: this channel has a policy of discouraging nick changes for /away status. once again, please abide by channel policy.
[20:55]  * Amaranth shakes his fist at mneptok
[20:55] <mneptok> to which you responded:
[20:55] <mneptok> 13:24 < nikolam_> mneptok, go away, with messages, will you
[20:55] <nikolam> mneptok, maaaan please i think it enough for one day
[20:55] <mneptok> nikolam: so, if you had been reading carefully, you would have known that an op was informing you of the rules.
[20:55] <nikolam> you simply wont let me on ubuntu and to end this
[20:56] <nikolam> I think that sub-analyzing someones every move is ridiculous
[20:56] <nikolam> I now understand your resoning
[20:56] <nikolam> Still dont thing you are right to kick. ban me
[20:57] <mneptok> you are entitled to your opinion. we are entitled to enforce channel policies. not only the /away nick change policy, but the CoC and the IRC Guidelines.
[20:57] <nikolam> and thats it
[20:57] <nikolam> please let me back on channel, if not, thats your choice
[20:57] <nikolam> i dont want to talk all day about channel policies
[20:57] <mneptok> and telling people to "GO AWAY" is not in line with either the CoC or IRC Guidelines
[20:57] <nikolam> you are whong.
[20:57] <nikolam> eod
[20:58] <topyli> nikolam, sorry to interfere, but it's not a right, it's a duty. it's easy to follow the rules and that's all
[20:58] <topyli> aww
[21:01] <nikolam> please stop redirecting me here
[21:01] <nikolam> I am not an op
[21:19] <mneptok> stop trying to join a channel you're banned from and it won't happen.
[21:21] <jpds> mneptok: Remove the forward?
[21:22] <topyli> agreed, he knows the way here
[21:23] <mneptok> go for it. i have to run a mission to the USPS.
[21:23] <mneptok> anyone is welcome to adjust that ban of mine to remove the forward.
[21:25] <maco> ya hear that, kurt? you're "whong"!
[21:27] <maco> nikolam: if you stop trying to join channels you're banned from, you won't end up here
[21:29] <Tm_T> nikolam: also, the ban wont be removed until you have discussed about it to satisfaction
[21:30] <jrib> why +r #ubuntu?
[21:34] <jrib> nhandler: is the +r in #ubuntu on purpose?
[21:35] <nhandler> No
[22:40] <cached> hey how come I'm banned from offtopic?
[22:40] <cached> last time I could go there and that was like a couple weeks back, I still had access before i logged off
[22:41] <cached> Could someone help me?
[22:59] <topyli> @login
[22:59] <topyli> @btlogin
[22:59] <Tm_T> nikolam_: hi
[23:00] <topyli> just a second cached
[23:03] <topyli> cached, your ip has been banned
[23:09] <topyli> cached, you were banned back when you were still called cyberbluntz
[23:20] <topyli> @mark cyberbluntz 's ip returning as 'cached', seemingly oblivious of reason to ban. no idea if same guy or different
[23:21] <topyli> hrm. can you change those? i should have added the channel (-ot)
[23:21] <topyli> meh
[23:22] <topyli> @mark cyberbluntz #ubuntu-offtopic ip returning to -ops as 'cached', seemingly oblivious of reason to ban. no idea if same guy or different
[23:22] <Tm_T> topyli: we need some tool for op stuff, similar what lernid is for meetings&stuff
[23:22] <Tm_T> topyli: where we can click easily those ban stuff
[23:23] <topyli> Tm_T, we have tools, thry're just not topyli-friendly enough
[23:23] <topyli> Tm_T, now you're talking
[23:23] <topyli> :)
[23:23] <Tm_T> I've been talking all the time?
[23:23]  * Tm_T hides
[23:24] <topyli> we have people like t simpson who absolutely rocks the bots and other tools, we'll be fine as long as we don't let them sleep
[23:26]  * genii breaks out the extra-caffeinated coffee
[23:26] <Tm_T> genii: meeting in 30 minutes
[23:26] <topyli> :)
[23:27] <genii> Tm_T:  in #u-meeting ?
[23:27]  * genii checks the fridge
[23:28] <Tm_T> genii: yes
[23:28] <genii> OK
[23:28] <topyli> night-owls european team meeting
[23:29] <genii> topyli: But I'm a North American!
[23:32] <topyli> genii, you're still welcome to any party i'm sure!
[23:32] <genii> Hah, OK
[23:36] <Tm_T> someone might like to look #u if I'm not awake
[23:38] <genii> I just banned "amanda1" from #k for hit-n-run URL spam some pages at www.mdhjakten.se   > Just a heads up they may migrate to some other channels
[23:39] <Tm_T> he is in #u
[23:39] <topyli> thanks
[23:41] <Tm_T> bah