[06:31] <ara_> good morning all
[07:29]  * ara steps out for around 1h30m for a dentist appointment
[10:53] <ara> morning davmor2
[10:53] <davmor2> morning ara and all
[11:16] <ara> mvo, around?
[11:16] <mvo> ara: about to go for lunch, but I will read scrollback
[11:17] <ara> mvo, ok, let me know when you're back, I would love your help debugging bug 550787
[11:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 550787 in computer-janitor (Ubuntu) "Computer Janitor freezes during the analysis (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/550787
[12:23] <mvo> ara: *weeh* that is most likely a nasty gtk/threading/locking issue, the idea was to get rid of this by using a dbus based backend service instead of using a thread based one
[12:24] <mvo> bug #541990
[12:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 541990 in computer-janitor (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Upgrade Computer Janitor to 2.0 (dbus edition) (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541990
[13:29]  * ara -> lunch
[13:49] <davmor2> morning cr3 fader_
[13:50] <fader_> davmor2: Hey dude
[15:11] <jcastro> cr3: ping
[15:11] <cr3> jcastro: hey dude, what's up?
[15:11] <jcastro> hi!
[15:12] <jcastro> hey did you know the hardware testing submission doesn't work?
[15:12] <jcastro> however I collected people's submission.xml from the jam
[15:12] <jcastro> and have some loco's that did the same thing
[15:12] <cr3> jcastro: I've seen some bugs and submitted a fix this weekend
[15:12] <jcastro> ok so what do I do with these submissions?
[15:12] <jcastro> cr3: also, the text strings need a review, some say to right click on the sound for instance, and it's left click now, etc.
[15:13] <cr3> jcastro: unfortunately, lots of meta information needs to be added to that submission.xml file in order to be acceptable to launchpad, so I wouldn't hold my breath
[15:13] <jcastro> cr3: ok so I should tell people to redo it then?
[15:13] <cr3> jcastro: but, just in case, you might like to try sending to abel deuring
[15:14] <cr3> jcastro: I learned about the invalid string after the UI freeze unfortunately, so I can't submit changes to strings :(
[15:14] <jcastro> even if it's obviously wrong? right vs. left?
[15:15] <cr3> jcastro: I'll try to find the proper channels to see if I can get an exception
[15:16] <jcastro> ok I will tell our people to rerun their tests
[15:16] <jcastro> bummer, we got a bunch of tests done over the weekend. :(
[15:17] <cr3> jcastro: wait for version 9.1 of checkbox though, I can't push the new package myself, I'm no core-dev
[15:17] <jcastro> ok
[15:17] <jcastro> how long was it broken?
[15:17] <cr3> jcastro: I'll grab mathiaz as soon as I see him today to review and push my changes
[15:18] <cr3> jcastro: the problem doesn't affect everyone as far as I know
[15:18] <jcastro> well, it affected like 10 of us
[15:18] <jcastro> and for sure some guys in catalan
[15:18] <jcastro> but I haven't heard from others
[15:19] <cr3> jcastro: just to make sure, you're referring to bug #536645, right?
[15:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 536645 in checkbox (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "backend crashed with ValueError in loads() (affects: 369) (dups: 38)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/536645
[15:20] <cr3> if so, I think I'll change the importance to critical
[15:20] <jcastro> nope, hold on let me find it
[15:20] <cr3> jcastro: if it's not that one, I'll have it fixed this morning and try to get it in 9.1 today
[15:22] <jcastro> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/checkbox/+bug/531010
[15:22] <ubot4> jcastro: Error: Bug #531010 is private.
[15:22] <jcastro> cr3: that's the bug we all ran into at our jam
[15:23] <jcastro> no one could submit to lp
[15:23] <jcastro> cr3: come to think of it I don't think I saw it crash all weekend though!
[15:25] <cr3> jcastro: awesomo! I've assigned the bug to myself and will look into it today, thanks for bringing this to my attention, it fell off my radar
[15:25] <jcastro> has no one else seen the hwdb being down?
[15:25] <jcastro> have there been submissions this weekend?
[15:26] <jcastro> I am just wondering
[15:26] <jcastro> because I've been telling locos to hit that hard
[15:26] <cr3> jcastro: I couldn't know, I don't have access to that kind of information
[15:27] <jcastro> ah
[15:27] <cr3> jcastro: I just asked abel to join, he's the right person to ask
[15:27] <jcastro> ok
[15:27] <jcastro> hi abel!
[15:27] <adeuring> hi jcastro
[15:27] <jcastro> we had a bunch of hwdb submissions this weekend that couldn't be submitted
[15:28] <jcastro> was wondering if it's just hosed for everyone or is there some bug in checkbox or ... ?
[15:28] <jcastro> because we've been telling loco's to do hw submissions during jams, etc.
[15:28] <adeuring> jcastro: let me check the log files...
[15:28] <cr3> adeuring: there is a bug in checkbox, that's been confirmed, just wondering if some folks have been able to submit at least
[15:31] <adeuring> cr3, jcastro gahhh. empty log files.... Somethings went badly wrong, I assume. Need to ask the losas
[15:31] <jcastro> can you guys get to the bottom of this?
[15:31] <cr3> jcastro: I'm all over checkbox, thanks for bringing this to our attention
[15:31] <jcastro> we had a bunch of locos get together this past weekend and this really sucks. :(
[15:32] <cr3> adeuring: if you need anything from me, I'm all yours
[15:32] <jcastro> can we ensure that for next cycle this doesn't happen?
[15:34] <cr3> jcastro: I can't think of a way to prevent this kind of problem for sure, it seems there are lots of moving parts
[15:35] <cr3> jcastro: I'm sorry this is not the answer you were looking for, I just don't want to give you false hopes :(
[15:36] <jcastro> yeah
[15:36] <jcastro> it's just that if we ask people to do testing jams and have the hwdb submission on the wiki then it should work!
[15:36] <jcastro> or maybe we can test it the day before or something
[15:44] <cr3> jcastro: right, I can commit to fixing anything the day before if something is broken, but I'm very bad at remembering to do periodic tasks like testing something before a given date
[15:45] <jcastro> cr3: oh don't worry, I am good at the last part. :D
[15:46] <cr3> jcastro: so we can tag team, awesome!
[15:47] <cr3> jcastro: a few days before would be preferable though, so that we give time to the core-dev team to push my changes to the distro
[15:47] <jcastro> cr3: I'll put it in the jam planning so we do it ahead of time, etc.
[15:48] <cr3> jcastro: dude, you're in for a huge hug next time I see you!
[15:56] <hggdh> cr3: BTW -- when I ran checkbox on my laptop, no harddrives were found. Knwon issue?
[15:56] <cr3> hggdh: yep, fixed
[15:56] <cr3> ... but not released
[15:56] <hggdh> cr3: you rock, sir
[15:56] <hggdh> ... still ;-)
[15:58] <cr3> hggdh: I'm really happy with my fix, I've finally gotten rid of lshw
[15:59] <cr3> on the upside, I submitted a patch to lshw so that it outputs valid xml almost a couple years ago and I recently learned it's been applied upstream. yay!
[16:02] <adeuring> cr3, jcastro: the "missing HWDB submissions" are clearly an evil bug in Launchpad.
[16:02] <jcastro> yargh!
[16:03] <cr3> adeuring: could it be an evil bug in checkbox too which might submit invalid xml as far as utf-8 encoding?
[16:03] <jcastro> adeuring: how long has it been like this?
[16:04] <adeuring> cr3: since a few days... Need to check for more specific details, I assume (need to check that too) that LP now requires a referer header for each POST request.
[16:04]  * adeuring can't currently use firefox to edit LP bugs....
[16:04] <adeuring> because I configured FF not to send the referer header...
[17:11] <Kioob> Hi. I've installed an Ubuntu Lucid from debootstrap, I would like to change the system language but can only change for the current User (the buttons "Apply System-Wide" and "Install / Remove Languages" are disabled)
[17:11] <Kioob> what I forgot ?
[17:13] <davmor2> Kioob: are you sure they are grey'd out or do they just look like they are?
[17:15] <Kioob> I verified, they are disabled
[17:16] <Kioob> my User is only in group "sudo"
[17:17] <Kioob> maybe I should add him in other groups
[17:50] <Kioob> after adding my user to groups adm and admin, I have the buttons
[17:50] <Kioob> but I obtain this error :
[17:50] <Kioob> "failed to run /bin/cp '/tmp/tmpnejK7J' '/etc/default/locale' as user root. The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[17:50] <Kioob> my user have to be in group sudo too ? ;)
[17:53] <Kioob> mm yes
[17:53] <Kioob> so it works. Thanks
[19:02] <bladernr_> I asked this in ubuntu-kernel too, but can anyone tell me what package handles the "Default Application" windows that pop up when you connect a USB device to a Lucid system?
[19:30] <fader_> bladernr_: I think it's just nautilus if you're running gnome, isn't it?
[19:30] <bladernr_> I think so... was just seeking clarity before opening a bug... I went ahead and filed against nautilus anyway :-)
[21:29] <hggdh> there are no ISOs for today?
[21:33] <sbeattie> hggdh: the live cd images are there, but yeah, looks like none of the d-i images built.
[21:33] <hggdh> sbeattie: yeah, just saw the reports.html entry