| Gonxa | hi | 15:04 |
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| Gonxa | my ingles is basic | 15:04 |
| Gonxa | somebody knows about j2me? | 15:04 |
| Gonxa | si saben sobre alguna base de datos ligera | 15:05 |
| Gonxa | if they know about any lightweight database | 15:06 |
| LaserJock | hi all, I'm wondering why there are 3 different Java's in Main (sun-java, openjdk, and gcj) | 16:32 |
| nthykier | LaserJock: There are or used to be more | 16:46 |
| nthykier | cacao and kaffe to mention two that were "recently" removed from Debian | 16:47 |
| nthykier | To answer your question: in the "old" days there was only the sun-java, but is not open source so a lot of free alternatives (gcj, cacao, kaffe, etc.) popped up. | 16:48 |
| nthykier | openjdk-6 is outcome of Sun re-licensing most of sun-java into an open source license. | 16:49 |
| nthykier | That is simplified short story | 16:50 |
| nthykier | LaserJock: There has been an interest lately to reduce the number of JVMs (among the reasons cacao vanished from Debian). I think Ubuntu also considered removing sun-java | 16:54 |
| LaserJock | nthykier: I was considering trying out eclipse or netbeans or something, but it's not clear what JVM I should use or if there's significant difference | 18:31 |
| LaserJock | seems like eclipse wants both gcj and openjdk | 18:32 |
| nthykier | LaserJock: Not in Karmic and Lucid - earlier versions of eclipse, yes | 19:10 |
| nthykier | or rather, that might be the case for earlier versions | 19:10 |
| LaserJock | I'm on lucid | 19:12 |
| LaserJock | I've installed openjdk-jdk as I thought that'd be the place to start | 19:13 |
| LaserJock | but it still want gcj | 19:13 |
| nthykier | LaserJock: Which version of eclipse is it trying to install? | 19:14 |
| LaserJock | says 3.5.2-2ubuntu1 | 19:14 |
| LaserJock | yikes: "Need to get 195MB of archives." | 19:15 |
| nthykier | LaserJock: Install without recommends | 19:16 |
| nthykier | LaserJock: I hope it is one of eclipse's dependencies that recommends gcj somewhere down the road | 19:16 |
| LaserJock | "Need to get 166MB of archives." but no gcj :-) | 19:17 |
| nthykier | LaserJock: On Debian eclipse is perfectly installable without getting gcj | 19:19 |
| LaserJock | oh, netbeans only requires like half as much to download | 19:19 |
| nthykier | LaserJock: Could I have you report a bug against eclipse about this? it should not force the installation of gcj (even if indirectly) since eclipse does not work with gcj | 19:21 |
| LaserJock | nthykier: actually, could you maybe report it for me. Launchpad is acting up on me today | 19:34 |
| nthykier | LaserJock: I have not been able to modify bugs for a week | 19:35 |
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