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| DanaG | hmm, anyone know why the kernel-ppa stuff hasn't been updated in a while? the only 34-rc2 kernel there says "karmic" specifically, and the same is true of the latest drm-next kernel there. | 01:48 |
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| DanaG | Does it matter that it says "karmic", if I want to use it on Lucid? I've seen it matter before, on ARM, at least.... try a karmic kernel with lucid userspace, it doesn't boot. | 01:49 |
| JanC | I guess "karmic" means it was compiled with karmic's configuration file? | 02:03 |
| DanaG | beats me. I'm about to try the drm-next "karmic" kernel. | 02:06 |
| DanaG | I've also noticed that the kernel-ppa kernels all have the STAGING dir entirely disabled... as well as MMC_RICOH_MMC | 02:06 |
| DanaG | Something about "symbol 'm' not valid for ... " | 02:07 |
| nosse1 | How do I build a (fresh git) kernel when I dont have the debian/ dirs installed and get it installed on the system (preferrably via a deb-file) | 12:55 |
| nosse1 | Will make-kpkg handle that? | 12:55 |
| smb | preferably (if you don't want to use git) by apt-get source linux-image-2.6.x-y-generic which gives you the kernel source including the debian dirs | 13:09 |
| nosse1 | smb: I can't use the ubuntu source, as there are none for my target, so I need to go with a 3rd part kernel branch. | 13:11 |
| nosse1 | So I have the kernel source and a working config, but I need to wrap this into ubuntu-world | 13:11 |
| smb | You could clone the git tree and copy the debian* dirs into your tree | 13:13 |
| nosse1 | smb: Thats all that's needed? What happens to my local kernel config? | 13:13 |
| smb | nosse1, You would need to see how you get it integrated with debian.master/configs/... | 13:14 |
| smb | nosse1, Maybe it does work with make-kpkg but I never use that | 13:17 |
| nosse1 | smb, I'm trying to integrate debian* right now. | 13:17 |
| nosse1 | smb, What do you do to compile kernels then? | 13:18 |
| smb | nosse1, I only do the Ubuntu kernels. No need for me to do anything special. :-P | 13:19 |
| nosse1 | But you use make-kpkg to build them, right? | 13:19 |
| smb | nosse1, No. Either debuild, or dpkg-buildpackage or fakeroot debian-rules ... when I am in a hurry | 13:20 |
| nosse1 | OK, thanks | 13:21 |
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| mozmck | smb: did you see my post here about the kernelconfig script not working because DROOT is not defined? | 13:46 |
| smb | mozmck, I cannot recall it. Where did you post it? | 13:47 |
| mozmck | here on IRC a couple days ago. | 13:47 |
| mozmck | To fix it here I just added DROOT=debian to debian/debian.env | 13:47 |
| mozmck | this is in the lucid git tree | 13:48 |
| smb | IRC is quite prone to loose things. But on Lucid debian.env should be always set | 13:48 |
| smb | Are you using a special tree? | 13:48 |
| smb | Actually it should be debian.master which it points to | 13:49 |
| mozmck | no | 13:49 |
| smb | ~/src/ubuntu-lucid/kernel$ cat debian/debian.env | 13:50 |
| smb | DEBIAN=debian.master | 13:50 |
| mozmck | I'm using kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-lucid.git | 13:50 |
| mozmck | yes, but DROOT is used in the kernelconfig script and is not defined anywhere. | 13:51 |
| mozmck | this is both on karmic and in 10.04 beta1 | 13:51 |
| mozmck | and looking at the kernelconfig script, line 29 is bindir="`pwd`/${DROOT}/scripts/misc" | 13:53 |
| smb | which script are you talking about? | 13:53 |
| mozmck | so I figured DROOT had to be 'debian' | 13:53 |
| smb | ok found it | 13:53 |
| smb | apw, Is that meant to be called directly | 13:54 |
| apw | mozmck, smb, nope thats not menat to be run directly | 13:55 |
| mozmck | all the instructions I found have you call "kernelconfig editconfig" to edit the configs. this worked on karmic fine but not in lucid | 13:55 |
| apw | its used from debian/rules updateconfigs and the like | 13:55 |
| mozmck | so how are you supposed to edit the configs now? | 13:55 |
| apw | where are those instructions? they are wrong | 13:55 |
| smb | Right, where does it say to call it directly? | 13:55 |
| apw | debian/rules editconfigs would make sense | 13:55 |
| smb | yep | 13:55 |
| apw | and should work for all releases too | 13:56 |
| smb | mozmck, To call "debian/rules editconfig" was always the intended way | 13:56 |
| mozmck | http://blog.avirtualhome.com/2009/11/03/how-to-compile-a-kernel-for-ubuntu-karmic/ | 13:57 |
| mozmck | That's linked to from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile | 13:57 |
| apw | yay ... random community randomness | 13:57 |
| Keybuk | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelForIdiots ;-) | 13:57 |
| apw | Keybuk, heh yeah i like that one better :) | 13:58 |
| mozmck | I see. It seems quite hard to find good information on this subject! | 13:59 |
| apw | i wonder if we should rename that dummies :) | 13:59 |
| apw | mozmck, mostly because there is such a lot of bad information out there | 13:59 |
| mozmck | I've seen that link, but it doesn't mention editconfig, and I am a dummy so I need menuconfig :) | 13:59 |
| apw | do feel free to help us make the ForIdiots page better ... Keybuk only did the bits he needed :) | 14:00 |
| mozmck | oh, ok! I forget I can change those pages. | 14:01 |
| * apw adds a comment to the random blog telling them they are wrong :) | 14:01 | |
| mozmck | thanks for the help. | 14:01 |
| Keybuk | it's basically where I put notes so I don't have to keep rediscovering them each time | 14:01 |
| mozmck | is there a way to tell it to just edit the config for one flavour or do you just have to step through them all? | 14:03 |
| Keybuk | I just tend to edit the config file itself | 14:03 |
| Keybuk | then use updateconfigs to fill in the bits I missed | 14:03 |
| apw | mozmck, no you have to step through them all with that interface | 14:03 |
| mozmck | ok | 14:04 |
| apw | yeah mostly i am in bulk update mode and want to do them all at once, so i tend to do the update by adding things to the toplevel common files and doing an updateconfigs | 14:04 |
| mozmck | I'm working on a custom flavour with rtai patches for running CNC machines with EMC2, so I just add and change settings for that one flavour. | 14:06 |
| mozmck | 'debian/rules editconfig' -> make: *** No rule to make target `editconfig'. Stop. | 14:10 |
| mozmck | 'debian/rules editconfigs' -> dh_testdir: cannot read debian/control: No such file or directory | 14:11 |
| Keybuk | mozmck: fakeroot debian/rules clean first | 14:11 |
| mozmck | ah, that works | 14:11 |
| mozmck | thanks | 14:11 |
| bjf | ## | 16:02 |
| bjf | ## Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - Today @ 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting | 16:02 |
| bjf | ## agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting | 16:02 |
| bjf | ## | 16:02 |
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| IdleOne | ogasawara: Congrats!!! awesome,incredible,great news :D | 16:57 |
| ogasawara | IdleOne: thanks! | 16:57 |
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| cnd | apw: I'm interested in cleaning up the linux-firmware-nonfree package, partially to learn more about packaging | 17:27 |
| cnd | rtg is gone for a bit, and I'd like my changes to get into lucid | 17:27 |
| cnd | would you be able to review them? | 17:27 |
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| apw | cnd sure thing | 17:53 |
| ogasawara | apw: https://launchpad.net/~leannogasawara/+archive/ppa/+build/1590208/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.linux_2.6.34-1.1~oga2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 18:00 |
| JFo | bug 507416 | 18:12 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 507416 in linux-fsl-imx51 "CONFIG_NEON=y causes platform lockups with certain application/platform combinations" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507416 | 18:12 |
| smb | JFo, That should be ok as far as I know, they just don't bother update their bug status. :/ | 18:14 |
| JFo | ok :) | 18:14 |
| crimsun | pgraner: JFo: could you ping Jane S and ask her permission to put a Reported-by in the git changelog for LP 551606, 548661? | 18:33 |
| crimsun | (ideally an e-mail address, too, but I understand if she doesn't want it in the kernel changelog) | 18:34 |
| JFo | crimsun, will see what I can do about that. :) | 18:35 |
| bjf | crimsun, you're doing an upstream fix for 551606? | 18:35 |
| crimsun | bjf: yes, I'm about to push the button on git commit -e -a -s | 18:37 |
| bjf | crimsun, ok, you are doing a quirk for her SSID? | 18:38 |
| crimsun | bjf: no, for all models using that quirk; I'll attach the diff | 18:38 |
| bjf | crimsun, ack | 18:39 |
| crimsun | bjf: also, I believe I have a fix for her hp mute issue, but there are at least two further debugging steps necessary, one of which requires rolling a new alsa-driver snap (I'll attach a diff to 548661 if the first option is insufficient) | 18:39 |
| bjf | crimsun, when does takashi "release" new alsa-driver versions? is there a schedule or just when he feels things are "right" | 18:41 |
| crimsun | bjf: he doesn't generally roll those; Jaroslav tends to push the buttons | 18:42 |
| bjf | crimsun, ah, ok | 18:42 |
| cnd | apw: while I work with #launchpad to figure out the merge request, feel free to review the last four commits at https://code.launchpad.net/~chasedouglas/lucid/linux-firmware-nonfree | 18:43 |
| crimsun | smb: do you know when the window for 2.6.32.11 closes? I have possibly two more patches to push to stable (both Jane S's bugs), and I'd like to get them in if feasible. | 18:51 |
| JFo | I think it is tomorrow morning iirc | 18:52 |
| JFo | but I defer to smb | 18:52 |
| smb | crimsun, Not for sure. Normally this amount of activity I would say he might close on Friday | 18:52 |
| JFo | ah, see I was wrong ;-) | 18:52 |
| smb | crimsun, But sometimes he is quicker. | 18:52 |
| crimsun | smb: JFo: ok, thanks | 18:52 |
| smb | JFo, ITs hard to say. I have not really found a regular schedule in Greg. | 18:53 |
| JFo | true, I was thinking of something else entirely I am sure | 18:53 |
| cnd | apw: ignore my previous bzr branch, I figured out the merge process, so use it instead please | 18:58 |
| bjf | apw, can you comment on crimsun question ^^ | 19:02 |
| crimsun | (actually I'm awaiting on her ack to submit the first patch :-) | 19:06 |
| crimsun | awaiting her * | 19:06 |
| rackerhacker | jjohansen: have you had reports of a microtime issue in linux-ec2? | 19:38 |
| rackerhacker | i couldn't find a relevant bug | 19:38 |
| jjohansen | hrmm, not any that I have heard of | 19:39 |
| jjohansen | what are you seeing? | 19:39 |
| rackerhacker | lemme slip it into pastie right quick | 19:39 |
| rackerhacker | http://pastie.org/895689 | 19:39 |
| rackerhacker | jjohansen: here's a normal karmic server (bare metal, not in a VM): http://pastie.org/895692 | 19:41 |
| rackerhacker | which is more of what i'd expect | 19:41 |
| rackerhacker | if i pop in an old hardy 2.6.24 kernel, all is well | 19:42 |
| rackerhacker | domU w/2.6.24-23 -> http://pastie.org/895696 | 19:43 |
| rackerhacker | it's not perfect in 2.6.24, but it's worse in linux-ec2 from lucid | 19:44 |
| rackerhacker | but it could be a silly kernel config on my part | 19:44 |
| jjohansen | hrmm, well that does look odd, I'll have a look and run a few tests | 19:45 |
| rackerhacker | i can set you up on one of our environments if that'd help | 19:46 |
| jjohansen | rackerhacker: sure, that would be worth snooping at | 19:48 |
| rackerhacker | gimme a second to get one rolling | 19:49 |
| rackerhacker | jjohansen: want me to pile the details into a launchpad bug? | 20:43 |
| soren | rackerhacker: Just for giggles, could you try booting a machine with clocksource=acpi_pm and run the same test? | 20:59 |
| soren | rackerhacker: (A physical machine, that is) | 20:59 |
| rackerhacker | a physical machine running linux-ec2? | 21:00 |
| soren | rackerhacker: Running the same as the machine in http://pastie.org/895689 was running. | 21:00 |
| rackerhacker | soren: that particular example was within a domU | 21:01 |
| soren | rackerhacker: Sorry, wrong pastie. | 21:01 |
| soren | rackerhacker: http://pastie.org/895692 this one. | 21:01 |
| rackerhacker | let me see if i can spare that machine for a moment ;-) | 21:02 |
| jjohansen | rackerhacker: hrmm, not yet. I haven't been able to replicate on EC2, I have run through 10 different instance size/kernel combinations and every one was good. I haven't tried your config on EC2 yet though | 21:26 |
| rackerhacker | jjohansen: you might be right, soren walked over and gave me a run down | 21:32 |
| JFo | crimsun, thumbs up from Jane | 21:35 |
| JFo | crimsun, | 21:35 |
| JFo | That's fine - I have no problem with my name and/or email going in there. | 21:35 |
| JFo | thanks, | 21:35 |
| JFo | Jane | 21:35 |
| rackerhacker | jjohansen: call off the search, soren just beat me up with some knowledge | 21:44 |
| rackerhacker | it turns out i was using clocksource=jiffies | 21:44 |
| rackerhacker | soren's suggestion of clocksource=acpi_pm fixed it immediately | 21:44 |
| jjohansen | ah, yeah that can cause so problems | 21:44 |
| rackerhacker | soren also says hello | 21:45 |
| jjohansen | yeah, say hi to soren for me too | 21:45 |
| rackerhacker | can do | 21:46 |
| rackerhacker | jjohansen: i owe you three cases of beer at this point | 21:46 |
| rackerhacker | my tab is increasing :/ | 21:46 |
| jjohansen | hehe, not at all | 21:46 |
| jjohansen | after all soren fixed this problem :D | 21:47 |
| rackerhacker | other than acpi_pm being a little more expensive than jiffies, should i be worried about anything? | 21:47 |
| jjohansen | rackerhacker: not really it is consider the best practice to use acpi_pm on more modern kernels | 21:51 |
| soren | rackerhacker: Just make sure you keep proper time on the host. | 21:52 |
| rackerhacker | soren: can do | 21:55 |
| rackerhacker | jjohansen: thanks ;) | 21:55 |
| jjohansen | np | 21:56 |
| jjohansen | :-) | 21:56 |
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