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hggdhhuats: weechat uses cmake00:13
huatshggdh, thanks00:14
Gaming4JCCan some one tell that MOTU that they NEED to put USBView back into the repos? :P03:35
Gaming4JCLooks like they stopped support in Intrepid, such a pity now that I need to get it working on 9.10 - guess I'll compile it myself.03:35
ajmitchthe removal message for it said that it was deprecated & no longer maintained upstream03:36
* ajmitch has no idea what the replacement would be03:37
Gaming4JClol yah I was going to say what is the replacement.03:37
Gaming4JC:P03:37
Gaming4JCIt's an impeccably useful tool, I suggest they get it back. It even works on Windows still ;)03:37
* Gaming4JC files a launchpad bug ^^03:42
superm1persia, i was just told there is an #ubuntu-packaging channel now by mrand.  when i asked what's that offer that this one doesn't i was ordered to ask you.?03:47
ScottKsuperm1: Support for non-Ubuntu packages, e.g. PPAs.03:48
superm1shouldn't the packaging be just the same though?03:48
ScottKShould be, but there are people (like me) who feel pretty strongly that this isn't the place for PPA help.03:49
superm1well help pushing to a PPA maybe not, but the same packaging standards should be used no matter where it's going03:50
ScottKI don't think it's on topic to ask for help here if you aren't trying to get stuff into Ubuntu.03:51
ScottKJust because LP decided to add PPAs, doesn't make us the support staff for it.03:51
superm1but surely if someone comes in here saying "Help, debian/rules keeps failing", the first question won't be "Is your package actually in ubuntu?" with a response  "No, get out of here, and go get help from people in #ubuntu-packaging"03:53
cody-somervilleI think the idea is that this channel will go away someday03:54
cody-somervilleand #ubuntu-packaging will be for all packaging related questions03:55
ScottKNo, usually it's more like "Hey, I want to put something in this PPA, please teach me all about packagiing"03:55
ScottKcody-somerville: No, it's not.03:55
ScottKMOTU isn't going away, so why should this channel?03:55
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pochuFrom: Bug 123674 <123674@bugs.launchpad.net>07:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 123674 in gdebi "gdebi-gtk crashed with AttributeError in on_button_install_clicked()" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12367407:16
pochuTo: Emilio Pozuelo Monfort <pochu27@gmail.com>07:16
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dholbachgood morning07:58
freeflyingdholbach: moin08:50
dholbachhi freeflying08:51
duanedesignworking on a possible FFe. Getting some warnings when building the new upstream source. http://paste.ubuntu.com/401850/13:01
duanedesignany help would be appreciated13:01
geserduanedesign: I'm not sure but it looks like you try to install the schemas during the build. This should only happen on package install.14:48
geserbut you could double-check in #ubuntu-desktop as they know more about gconf schemas and when to install14:49
bilalakhtarI have uploaded the package gnome-media-player on REVU and filed a needs-packaging bug. The REVU url is http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gnome-media-player and the bug url is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/55170214:58
ubottuUbuntu bug 551702 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] gnome-media-player" [Undecided,In progress]14:58
duanedesignthank you geser14:58
bilalakhtarubottu: Yes that one. Thanks.14:58
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:58
zookoGreetings, people of #ubuntu-motu! There are two urgent problems with Tahoe-LAFS in Lucid:15:09
zookohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tahoe-lafs/+bug/55133315:09
ubottuUbuntu bug 551333 in tahoe-lafs "tahoe-lafs 1.6.1 package for lucid contains no binaries" [Undecided,New]15:09
zookohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/foolscap/+bug/54899315:09
zookoPlease help if you can.15:09
ubottuUbuntu bug 548993 in foolscap "please upgrade foolscap in Ubuntu Lucid to v0.5.1" [Unknown,Fix released]15:09
james_wzooko: I can see the problem for the first, going to test-build to confirm15:19
lfaraoneIs it possible to construct a control file so that when uploaded to Debian a package will depend on FOO, but when synced to Ubuntu the package will depend on BAR?16:13
lfaraone(using CDBS)16:14
geserlfaraone: you might try to solve this via dh_substvars and setting the value depending on the distibution (lsb_release) (or any other test)16:16
lfaraonegeser: okay, I'll use DEB_DH_GENCONTROL_ARGS with -V, then, right?16:32
lfaraonegeser: (there is no command dh_substvars)16:32
geseryes, or use debian/substvars (see man deb-substvars)16:34
geserIIRC it can also be debian/$pkg.substvars like the other files in debian/16:35
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lfaraoneI'm getting an odd pbuilder failure when I try to create a sid chroot to test my substvars: " sudo DISTRIBUTION=sid cowbuilder --create --basepath ~/cowbuildersid --mirror http://mirror.anl.FYI: gov/debian/17:27
lfaraone(and it fails on: "W: Failure trying to run: chroot /home/lfaraone/cowbuildersid/. dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_5.1_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.22_amd64.deb"17:27
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bencrisford!info scribus17:46
ubottuscribus (source: scribus): Open Source Desktop Page Layout. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.3.13.dfsg~svn20081228-2ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 9388 kB, installed size 26960 kB17:47
nigelbjust a doubt, how do I test packages that need dbus access after build?17:48
nigelbi.e, I cannot run it inside a chroot, since it throws up errors17:48
AnAntHello, can someone review/sponsor http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=8017 ? It has been granted an FFe in LP #54367918:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 543679 in ubuntu "Add a plymouth theme for sabily" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54367918:24
JontheEchidnaAnAnt: revu'd18:37
nigelbI'm trying to run pitivi inside chroot and I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/406640/18:42
nigelbany clues as to how to run the package and test it?18:42
macoso if there's anyone in here who hasnt yet learned how to fight with quilt and win, this is a nice tutorial: http://www.wzdftpd.net/blog/index.php?2008/02/05/3-quilt-a-patch-management-system-how-to-survive-with-many-patches18:52
nigelbmaco, shouldn't all patches be popped before adding a new one?18:53
maconigelb: no reason to... depends what order you want them to be applied18:53
nigelbhmm :)18:54
macoif you push them all then add yours, yours goes last. if you pop them all then add yours and push the rest..yours goes first18:54
geserand might break other patches if the patch the same file18:54
geserso it's better to add your patch last18:55
nigelbgeser, yeah, I remember maco teaching me to pop -a first18:55
maconigelb: sorry18:55
nigelburgh!!!18:55
nigelbgeser, maco: s/pop/push18:55
maconigelb: if they all still apply you're ok ;-)18:55
nigelbI'm too tired and not thinking before I type18:56
macooh see then i didnt teach wrong. yay :)18:56
nigelb:D18:56
hyperairquilt++18:58
* sbeattie wants bzr-looms to get just a bit better; that'd be the ideal situation, to have quilt-like functionality as a first class supported feature (with revision tracking on the patches themselves) built into the vcs tool.18:59
sbeattieof course, the advantage of quilt is that it's vcs agnostic.18:59
Riddellmok0: where is the bug for your python-django upload to jaunty-backports?19:10
AnAntjohe|work: thanks19:28
AnAntJontheEchidna: thanks19:36
AnAntJontheEchidna: re-uploaded to  http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=804019:49
JontheEchidnaAnAnt: Looks good, ack'ing19:52
AnAntJontheEchidna: thanks19:52
AnAntJontheEchidna: does it need a second ack ?19:53
JontheEchidnaAnAnt: probably, yeah19:53
JontheEchidnanixternal: mind revu'ing this plymouth package^?19:54
JontheEchidna(he packaged the kubuntu theme)19:54
AnAntkubuntu ?19:55
macois awesome19:55
macoAnAnt: its the kde version of ubuntu19:56
* AnAnt scratches his head19:56
JontheEchidnaThe official KDE derivative of Ubuntu19:56
AnAntyes, I know, but I didn't package the kubuntu theme19:56
JontheEchidnaAnAnt: nixternal did19:56
macoAnAnt: nixternal did, so he knows how plymouth packages work19:56
AnAntah, ok19:56
JontheEchidnasorry if that was a bit confusing19:57
zookoFolks: can anyone here upgrade foolscap in Lucid? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/foolscap/+bug/54899319:58
ubottuUbuntu bug 548993 in foolscap "please upgrade foolscap in Ubuntu Lucid to v0.5.1" [Unknown,Fix released]19:58
zookoI'll add a note to the ticket explaining the impact of the bug.19:58
macozooko: is it new features? if so you need FFe19:58
AnAntwhy is kubuntu's plymouth theme Arch: any ?19:59
james_wit read as bugfix only to me19:59
zookomaco: no it is a bugfix.19:59
macook then i can do it20:00
zookoGreat!20:00
macoN^2 to N? nice20:01
zookoYes, it makes the difference between a 20 MB mutable file being nearly impossible to transfer vs it being easy. :-)20:01
macozooko: ok test building. will upload when done20:15
zookomaco: sweet! Thanks.20:15
macozooko: you wanna test the package from my ppa before i upload it to universe?20:23
macoi guess that means "no"?20:47
jpdsmaco: You might never know.20:51
lfaraoneAnAnt: Is it not platform dependent?20:52
AnAntlfaraone: the theme itself, no20:53
AnAntlfaraone: it's just a script & some images20:53
AnAntlfaraone: so unless it contains some plugin, then it should be Arch: all20:54
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zookomaco: OpenAFS? Cool!21:03
zookomaco: discussion of how to test your PPA is on #tahoe-lafs right now.21:03
macozooko: ok. i just want confirmation that it upgrades ok and doesnt have any regressions, as lucid releases in only a month21:04
macozooko: and i've switched off my company's openafs team to go to the r&d team now21:04
cndI'm interested in working to become a MOTU, so I was wondering what work I could start with?21:56
cndI have a lot of package merging experience, so I figured I could help with it when L+1 merging starts21:56
cndbut I'd be open to any kind of work21:57
james_wcnd: fixing release critical bugs, packages that fail to build from source, pulling in useful fixes from debian and the like are very useful at this point in the cycle22:01
cndjames_w: I'm already doing the release critical bugs part as part of the kernel team :), but where can I find a list of failing to build pkgs and fixes to be merged from debian?22:02
sebner!MOTU | cnd <-- already read?22:02
ubottucnd <-- already read?: motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU22:02
james_wcnd: qa.ubuntuwire.com should have links22:02
cndsebner: yes22:02
cndjames_w: thanks, I'll take a look22:03
bencrisford1what do i need to install in order to use dh_make?  terminal told me to do apt-get install dh_make when it tried to run it, but i got package not found22:05
cndjames_w: so if I find a package to try to fix, do I check it out from bzr, push a fix to my lp account, and make a merge proposal?22:05
james_wcnd: yuppers22:05
cndor is there some other method used?22:05
cndjames_w: and the default reviewer should be correct?22:05
james_wcnd: yeah, it's fine22:06
bencrisford1!info dh_make22:11
ubottuPackage dh_make does not exist in karmic22:11
sebner!info dh-make | bencrisford122:11
ubottubencrisford1: dh-make (source: dh-make): tool that converts source archives into Debian package source. In component main, is optional. Version 0.48 (karmic), package size 41 kB, installed size 412 kB22:11
bencrisford1sebner: how come when it tells me it dont exist..?22:12
bencrisford1!info dh_make22:12
ubottuPackage dh_make does not exist in karmic22:12
sebnerbencrisford1: see what I wrote ;)22:12
sebnerbencrisford1: dh_make != dh-make22:12
bencrisford1ohhh22:12
bencrisford1hehe, i feel so stupid :P22:13
bencrisford1sebner: i think thats a sign i need sleep22:13
sebnerheh22:13
bencrisford1when im running dh-make, i can do -e to set the maintainer email, but what about the maintainer name22:19
bencrisford1cos its saying its me by default.. when it isnt :(22:19
MaximLevitskysoren: I just found out that libmms 0.5 is still not in lucid. Why?22:28
sorenMaximLevitsky: No idea.22:35
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MaximLevitskysoren: I though that it would be pulled automaticly22:36
MaximLevitskysoren: you are the maintainer of libmms, if I remember correctly, right?22:36
MaximLevitskysoren: can you pull it there, so I have 2 less bugs on my bug list :-)22:37
MaximLevitskysoren: and won't need to install it manually22:38
MaximLevitskysoren: ???22:48
Gaming4JCAnyone here know how to get a package back onto the live cd repo before the launch?22:51
Gaming4JChttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wvdial/+bug/400573/22:52
ubottuUbuntu bug 400573 in wvdial "[include in live-cd] wvdial (1.60.1+nmu2)" [Wishlist,New]22:52
ajmitchGaming4JC: no need to ask here as well as in #ubuntu-devel22:52
ajmitchconsidering that you're getting answers there22:52
Gaming4JCjust noticed.  :)22:52
* Gaming4JC goes back to devel22:52
Gaming4JC:D22:52
sorenMaximLevitsky: I'll get to it eventually.23:10
MaximLevitskysoren: don't forget, ok?23:11

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