[01:10] <benomatic> strange, strange problem.  prolly not myth, but can't be sure:  my HD and my (text) login screen flash on and off at the same rate., over and over.  making the screen an invitation to a seizure.  and meaning my HD is going far crazier than I would expect (no recording, tv, etc. at all right now)  any suggestions on where to start diagnosis?
[01:11] <benomatic> also note -- if i turn on num lock, it blinks same pattern as well.  funky hardware?
[02:23] <puff> Hm, I'm not getting a dhcp response.  I've tried rebooting.  I plugged the same cable into my laptop, get a response no problem.
[02:23] <puff> But not on the mythbox.
[03:34] <guyforget> hi, i'm having trouble getting a separate frontend to connect to my backend. i have a laptop running mythbuntu from a usb drive and when i put in my info and click test connection, I get a fail result. I can go to firefox though and type in the backend's ip address with port 6544 and see the status page.. i'm using the password from my backends mysql.txt file, and nothing is showing up in the mythbackend.log file fr
[03:34] <guyforget> om this
[04:25] <guyforget> found the answer.. i need to comment out bind = 127.0.0.1 from the my.conf mysql file
[09:37] <hot_wheelz> hi guys
[09:39] <hot_wheelz> can we addin option to use IceTV as a source for guide data in the same way it gives you an option to use Schedules Direct if you are based in the US please....or the record i DO NOT work for IceTV I just think it would be good to include it as an option so users can select it from the drop dowm box then enter their user\pass as they would with Shedules Direct and they're done
[10:40] <pmcenery> bug #549459
[10:40] <pmcenery> I see the retrace has now completed.
[13:17] <ScumBag> Hey anyone around to give me some help?
[13:18] <ScumBag> I'm having some issues with apt-get, a hashsum mismatch
[13:18] <ScumBag> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/repos/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[13:18] <Zinn> [ppa.launchpad.net]
[13:18] <ScumBag> W: Failed to fetch http://uk.autobuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu/trunk-0.22/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[13:18] <ScumBag> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[13:22] <Daviey> ^^ answered elsewhere
[13:23] <ScumBag> Sorry if this it the wrong channel guys.
[13:24] <Daviey> ScumBag: no, it is the correct channel
[13:24] <Daviey> I just happend to see you mention it elsewhere first :)
[13:24] <ScumBag> n00b status.
[13:24] <Daviey> ScumBag: nooo
[13:25] <ScumBag> Well using & asking questions on IRC , very much a big n00b.
[13:38] <ScumBag> sorry about that vpn dropped out
[14:42] <pmcenery> mrand: you around?
[14:44] <mrand> Sporadicly
[14:45] <pmcenery> lol. Ok. Just wanted to see if you'd noticed the backtraces have come back...
[14:46] <pmcenery> They look very Qt'ishly orientated
[14:46] <mrand> Yep.  Doesn't look like our retracer does us any good still.  -dbg package is still the best tool we have for that.... thanks for running it.  I attached us to the upstream ticket, so we'll know when they fix it.
[14:46] <mrand> Everything does.  Mythtv makes uses of every QT function they can.
[14:47] <pmcenery> Ok. Am I the only one who's seing this?
[14:47] <mrand> There was an exisiting bug open upstream, so certainly not.  I haven't had a chance to try it myself - my test machine is kinda messed up, and my frontend doesn't have a DVD drive.
[14:49] <pmcenery> It could be a 0.23 thing. When I was using minimyth, I'm sure it worked, but that was quite a while back
[15:02] <pmcenery> mrand: should I try the could_fix... patch?
[15:08] <mrand> pmcenery: it would be awesome if you could.   We have "Patching and building from source" in http://www.mythbuntu.org/wiki/recipes, but I can't guarantee every step is up-to-date.  Also, mythtv and mythtvplugins are probably trunk, so I'd back up your database first (although it is possible the schema hasn't changed on trunk yet, so you might be ok).   Or were you thinking of downloading mythtv from upstream source and building?
[15:25] <pmcenery> mrand: I'm testing against the latest source package on the build server. apt-get source, add the patch and dpkg-buildpackage
[15:25] <pmcenery> I maintain two debian packages... so I should be ok with it ;)
[15:26] <pmcenery> Its building now....
[15:26] <mrand> cool.
[15:28] <mrand> pmcenery: if you can help improve that recipies page, I'd love to.
[15:31] <pmcenery> mrand: I'm a bit pressed for time at the moment, but later in the year, I can get more involved.
[15:31] <mrand> awesome
[15:32] <pmcenery> I've been running mythtv since late 2006, so I've been round the block with it a bit.
[15:32] <mrand> Yeah, I could tell.
[15:34] <pmcenery> I noticed there might be a missing build-dep on the 0.23 mythtv source package.
[15:34] <mrand> pmcenery: really?
[15:34] <pmcenery> I've done an apt-get build-dep mythtv, and then built against it, and I get this...
[15:38] <pmcenery> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/bSRPXFvk
[15:40] <mrand> pmcenery: bummer.  Would you like to open a ticket on it, or shall I? :-)
[15:42] <pmcenery> I need some karma...
[15:42] <mrand> Yeah, I don't.  go for it!
[15:42] <pmcenery> against "mythtv"
[15:43] <mrand> I believe so.  It can be easily moved if not.
[15:43] <pmcenery> I want to try using reportbug...
[15:45] <mrand> pmcenery: Hadn't heard of reportbug... have to give it a try.  ubuntu-bug collects system info and throws it in the report for you... does reportbug also?
[15:46] <pmcenery> Mmm. just seen its not supporting the Ubuntu BTS at the moment. Its a Debian thing
[15:47] <pmcenery> You can report bugs at the command line, and it mails the BTS for you
[15:49] <mrand> pmcenery: On launchpad, you can certainly comment on bugs and change their status via email -  I assume you can report them that way as well.  Bug they have to be pgp signed.  I haven't looked/tried, actually.
[15:51] <pmcenery> I'm just trying to find the actual page where you report a bug on launchpad. Its not easy!
[15:51] <pmcenery> Great if apport launches it for you...
[15:52] <mrand> pmcenery: ubuntu-bug mythtv will launch a browser and take you there.
[15:53] <pmcenery> Ah. I'm working on it remotely... so I had to manually do it. I've found it now though
[15:54] <mrand> Yeah, I'm no big fan of the launchpad UI.
[16:00] <pmcenery> mrand: Its filed as bug #551769
[16:00] <Zinn> Bug 551769 in mythtv (Ubuntu) "Missing build dependency on mythtv source package" [Undecided, New] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/551769
[16:00] <pmcenery> brb
[16:01] <pmcenery> Do you know what is missing offhand so I can kick off my build?
[16:05] <mrand> pmcenery: as far as I know, those are standard things installed via QT4...
[16:05] <mrand> Or should be.
[16:05] <mrand> So that's what I'd check first.
[16:06] <mrand> Googling appears to say that you're missing the qt header files.  Maybe supposed to be included in a -dev package for qt?
[16:30] <mdisieno> okay, heres  my problem. I am running ubuntu karmic on my htpc and am trying to push it up to my vizio vx37l at 1920x1080. What I am running into is the edges of my screen are cut off no matter the resolution. I am using a geforce 7900gt with dual dualink dvi ports, on one of those ports i have a dvi-d single link cable going from the htpc to dvi>hdmi adapter for the tv. My first though was the pc, but it works beautifully wi
[16:30] <mdisieno> th rgb-vga, so I'm lost, any ideas?
[16:31] <pmcenery> mrand: back. I see. I've uninstalled all the qt3 packages now
[16:31] <pmcenery> retrying build
[16:31] <pmcenery> I do think a build-conflicts would be good
[16:47] <pmcenery> mdisieno: Is that just X which runs over the edges? Or mythtv?
[16:48] <pmcenery> Which version of the nvidia driver have you got?
[16:48] <mdisieno> pmcenery, x
[16:48] <pmcenery> Have you tried the nvidia driver team's latest beta PPA package to see if its any better
[16:49] <mdisieno> pmcenery, no i havent, is the ppa on their site?
[16:51] <rhpot1991> mdisieno: your original message cut off
[16:51] <pmcenery> mdisieno: Is that the VDPAU one that you have installed?
[16:51] <rhpot1991> at "worked beatifully wi"
[16:51] <mdisieno> rhpot1991, ah, with rgb/vga
[16:51] <rhpot1991> mdisieno: sounds like overscan, which is normal.  You can normally tell a TV not to do that in your menu, or hook it up over VGA or a similar PC input to stop that
[16:52] <mdisieno> pmcenery, sorry,vdpau?
[16:52] <rhpot1991> personally I like having a little overscan, so you don't see the garbage outside of the video, your tv will normally do this with a cable signal
[16:52] <pmcenery> mdisieno: If you list the packages installed : dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[16:53] <pmcenery> The vdpau version (on-chip accelerated decoding of x264, etc) will be listed as...
[16:54] <pmcenery> Ah. They may all include that feature now.... the package listed will include nvidia-185-libvdpau
[16:54] <mdisieno> pmcenery, yes, i have it mdisieno@media-center:~$ dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[16:54] <mdisieno> ii  nvidia-173-modaliases                 173.14.20-0ubuntu5                          Modaliases for the NVIDIA binary X.Org drive
[16:54] <mdisieno> ii  nvidia-185-kernel-source              185.18.36-0ubuntu9                          NVIDIA binary kernel module source
[16:54] <mdisieno> ii  nvidia-185-libvdpau                   185.18.36-0ubuntu9                          Video Decode and Presentation API for Unix
[16:54] <mdisieno> ii  nvidia-185-modaliases                 185.18.36-0ubuntu9                          Modaliases for the NVIDIA binary X.Org drive
[16:55] <mdisieno> ii  nvidia-96-modaliases                  96.43.13-0ubuntu6                           Modaliases for the NVIDIA binary X.Org drive
[16:55] <mdisieno> ii  nvidia-common                         0.2.15.1                                    Find obsolete NVIDIA drivers
[16:55] <mdisieno> rc  nvidia-glx-173                        173.14.20-0ubuntu5                          NVIDIA binary Xorg driver
[16:55] <mdisieno> ii  nvidia-glx-185                        185.18.36-0ubuntu9                          NVIDIA binary Xorg driver
[16:55] <mdisieno> ii  nvidia-kernel-common                  20080825+1ubuntu2                           NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
[16:55] <mdisieno> ii  nvidia-settings                       180.25-0ubuntu1                             Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driv
[16:55] <mdisieno> mdisieno@media-center:~$
[16:55] <mdisieno> errr sorry, meant to cp my pastebin
[16:55] <mdisieno> http://pastebin.com/yGwzeeUu
[17:01] <pmcenery> mdisieno: Here is the link to the VDPAU "latest driver" PPA https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa
[17:01] <Zinn> [launchpad.net] Nvidia Vdpau Team PPA : “Nvidia Vdpau Team” team
[17:02] <pmcenery> Not sure its a driver issue though. How much overscan are we talking about?
[17:03] <mdisieno> like half an inch on all 4 sides
[17:03] <mdisieno> enough to cut off my tool bar
[17:06] <pmcenery> I cant remember if nvidia-settings has anything useful that you can fiddle with. I dont think so though
[17:07] <pmcenery> Have you got any other HDMI devices that you can test with. I'm assuming you dont see this with any set top boxes?
[17:07] <rhpot1991> thats normal for overscan
[17:08] <rhpot1991> your tv does that with other devices as well, you just aren't used to seeing them without overscan
[17:08] <pmcenery> I've got the cheapest TV you can buy - Hanspree xv 100 32" - with crayon all over it ;)
[17:10] <pmcenery> rhpot1991: I'm guessing you just need to make sure there is no cropping of the edges configured in mythtv, if there are no TV settings to reduce overscan...
[17:10] <mdisieno> pmcenery, well the issue is inherent in x as well, thus confusion
[17:11] <pmcenery> mdisieno: Are there any overscan settings on the TV you can see in the menu's?
[17:12] <pmcenery> It could be handling overscan differently on the VGA to the HDMI port...
[17:12] <rhpot1991> well there are some things you can do to reduce it, such as mess with the nvidia settings, but yes the proper way to deal with it is with the tv itself
[17:13] <rhpot1991> google for your tv and how to deal with it
[17:13] <rhpot1991> some let you only adjust a single hdmi port
[17:14] <pmcenery> mdisieno: have you seen this: http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t46201.html
[17:14] <Zinn> [forums.nvidia.com] NVIDIA Forums > NVIDIA Linux Overscan on HDTV
[17:14] <mdisieno> pmcenery, no there isnt ,and im having trouble adding that ppa to my reps, i cp it right over and still have the same issue
[17:15] <mdisieno> pmcenery, no i havent
[17:16] <pmcenery> Not sure it will help you seeing as there dont appear to be any settings for overscan on the TV
[17:16] <dewman> hello everyone...
[17:17] <pmcenery> I've found some references to people trying modelines, but I can tell you that my attepts to fiddle with them have mostly ended in misery
[17:17] <mdisieno> pmcenery, is there a reason i cant add that ppa to my reps, it wouldnt allow the add button to be clickable
[17:17] <pmcenery> Usually because the TV does whatever it wants no matter what you try and tell it
[17:18] <pmcenery> Mmm
[17:21] <pmcenery> Did you add "ppa:nvidia-vdpau/ppa", and it wont let you click Add?
[17:22] <mdisieno> pmcenery, yes, i found out why ,accidently hit /
[17:23] <pmcenery> can also do sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nvidia-vdpau/ppa
[17:23] <pmcenery> Not entirely sure its going to help, but you can say you've tried the latest bleeding edge drivers...
[17:24] <mdisieno> pmcenery, i got it in, installing 195 right now
[17:26] <mdisieno> pmcenery, E: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-195_195.36.15-0ubuntu1~karmic~nvidiavdpauppa2_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib32/libvdpau_nvidia.so', which is also in package nvidia-185-libvdpau 0 :(
[17:30] <pmcenery> Mmm, that is a bit of a problem.
[17:30] <pmcenery> You may need to force overwrite it
[17:30] <mdisieno> pmcenery, fixed, removed 185 libdvpau first, then installed 195 over ,brb reboot
[17:30] <pmcenery> if it all goespear shaped, uninstall them and reinstall the old one
[17:31] <pmcenery>  Ok
[17:35] <mdisieno> back
[17:35] <pmcenery> any luck?
[17:36] <mdisieno> pmcenery, same issue ,but i havent tried anything new config wise
[17:36] <mdisieno> pmcenery, im getting sick of nvidia-settings though ,it wont save to my xorg.conf
[17:36] <pmcenery> Ok. You may need to look at modelines, but I've never had any real success
[17:37] <mdisieno> says failed to parse existing x config file /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[17:37] <pmcenery> Yes. There is no xorg.conf anymore. Its mostly dynamically configured, but it will accept a config file
[17:37] <mdisieno> pmcenery, where is that at if i may ask
[17:38] <mdisieno> pmcenery,  okay ill cp my xorg.conf.new to xorg.conf
[17:38] <pmcenery> /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the original location for it.
[17:38] <mdisieno> am im looking for metamode?
[17:39] <pmcenery> I'm not sure whats in the nvidia settings. I dont think modelines are in there. they are usually added manually, and its a right pain in the arse
[17:39] <Zinn> pmcenery: Please watch your language.
[17:40] <mdisieno> pmcenery, how shall i do that then?
[17:41] <pmcenery> You may want to start googling for your TV make and model and "modeline"
[17:41] <pmcenery> They usually go in the Monitor section of the xorg.conf file.
[17:42] <mdisieno> pmcenery, found, but for the lower res. im looking for my 1080i which the tv is at now
[17:43] <mdisieno> pmcenery, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Talk:Vizio_VX37L
[17:43] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Talk:Vizio VX37L - MythTV
[17:44] <mdisieno> Zinn, where im at right now, but thats for 720,when right now my tv is putting out 1080i via my hdmi to dvi adapter
[17:44] <Zinn> Hi mdisieno, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[17:44] <mdisieno> Zinn, oh....
[17:44] <Zinn> Hi mdisieno, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[17:44] <mdisieno> like talking to a wall
[17:45] <mdisieno> Zinn vizio vx37l
[17:45] <Zinn> Hi mdisieno, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[17:45] <mdisieno> !help
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[17:45] <pmcenery> mdisieno: you may want to try those settings.
[17:46] <pmcenery>  What resolution is it coming up with now?
[17:46] <mdisieno> pmcenery, even though its a lower res? right now 1080i via switching to 1920x1080 in nvidia settings
[17:47] <pmcenery> Well... start with that and see if the overscan is fixed
[17:47] <pmcenery> or underscan as you may appear to need
[17:47] <pmcenery> You can change resolution later if this appears to be heading in the right direction.
[17:48] <mdisieno> pmcenery, okay,   also i came from gentoo to ubuntu,how can i restart x? same as gentoo /etc/init.d/xdm restart?
[17:48] <pmcenery> I've gotta run shortly...
[17:48] <mdisieno> pmcenery, ah poo,you have been so much help
[17:48] <pmcenery> sudo service gdm restart (lucid), and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[17:48] <pmcenery> karmic and older...
[17:48] <mdisieno> thanks
[17:49] <pmcenery> np. I'm on here sporadically...
[17:49] <mdisieno> pmcenery, so put the mode lines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[17:49] <mdisieno> im not sure where with this whole dynamic thing
[18:09] <rhpot1991> pmcenery: is that your tv the vizio vx37l?
[19:20] <camelreef> good evening from Scotland!
[19:24] <pmcenery> rhpot1991: Nope, that was mdisieno's
[19:27] <pmcenery> mrand: Winner. DVD is working with that patch
[19:29] <camelreef> any report about tv_grab_uk_rt and libdate-manip-perl lately?
[19:30] <pmcenery> camelreef: I'm using the version in my PPA
[19:30] <pmcenery> camelreef: Are you on lucid?
[19:30] <camelreef> yup
[19:30] <camelreef> XMLTV requires a Date::Manip timezone of +0000 to work properly.
[19:30] <camelreef> Current Date::Manip timezone is 1.
[19:30] <camelreef> that's what I am getting
[19:31] <pmcenery> On karmic I used my ppa package, and I updaetd on the weekend. Let just see what I did. I'm sure I installed my PPA package of it and it works.
[19:31] <pmcenery> checking...
[19:32] <camelreef> oh, Mr. pmcenery from the iPhone packages! Respect, sir!
[19:32] <camelreef> <-- iPhone owner
[19:33] <pmcenery> lol. Cool!
[19:33] <camelreef> this is my command line:
[19:33] <camelreef> /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt --config-file /home/mythfront/.mythtv/tv5europe_uk_rt.conf
[19:34] <pmcenery> Yep. try the packages from the PPA. Although... I think I had to install a different version of libdate-manip-perl
[19:34] <pmcenery> I have this installed
[19:34] <pmcenery> ii  libdate-manip-perl                         6.05-1                                          module for manipulating dates
[19:35] <pmcenery> although, it may not be working again. I'm sure I installed the karmic libdate-manip-perl package to get it to work.
[19:35] <camelreef> libdate-manip-perl:
[19:35] <camelreef>   Installed: 6.05-1
[19:35] <pmcenery> Sorry I sound vague, but I've lost track of it a bit.
[19:35] <camelreef> Debian had a similar problem
[19:36] <camelreef> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560300
[19:36] <Zinn> [bugs.debian.org] #560300 - xmltv-util: tv_grab_uk_rt fails with error saing Date::Manip requires a timezone +0000, this is set in code? - Debian Bug report logs
[19:36] <pmcenery> Btw. I've found a sponsor for ipheth and it should be going in any day now to Debian. I'll then file the sync request for it to be included in lucid...
[19:37] <pmcenery> brb... will check on that xmltv thing now. I think mine's broke again
[19:45] <pmcenery> camelreef: I install this http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libdate-manip-perl and my PPA version of xmltv, and its working
[19:45] <Zinn> [packages.debian.org] Debian -- Details of package libdate-manip-perl in lenny
[19:46] <pmcenery> Each on their own didnt work if I recall correctly
[19:51] <camelreef> pmcenery, maybe it's something that needs to go into lucid
[19:54] <pmcenery> camelreef: Something needs fixing, but I just havent seriously looked at it yet. I'll try looking at it tomorrow some time.
[19:54] <pmcenery> Do we have a LP bug for it?
[19:54] <camelreef> don;t know
[19:55] <pmcenery> I'll speak to mrand about it. Its quite a fundamental problem that
[19:55] <camelreef> let me see if the xmltv package from the Debian bug works
[19:55] <pmcenery> brb
[20:01] <camelreef> pmcenery, the xmltv in Debian appears to do it on lucid
[20:04] <camelreef> on its own
[20:05] <camelreef> without changing  libdate-manip-perl
[20:22] <mrand> pmcenery: skamithi was worried in that upstream bug about the patch breaking DVD mounting.  Any ill effects (either inside or outside mythtv)?  If not, I'll post a followup there that you've verified the patch.
[20:22] <mrand> re: xmltv, you all talking about Bug 544522?
[20:22] <Zinn> Bug 544522 in mythbuntu "[lucid] latest version of Date::Manip breaks tv_grab_uk_rt" [Undecided, Confirmed] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/544522
[20:24] <mrand> pmcenery: ah, I see you posted a followup already.  cool.
[20:28] <Daviey> pmcenery: I am on the case with the xmltv stuff
[20:29] <camelreef> yes, this is indeed Bug 544522
[20:29] <Zinn> Bug 544522 in mythbuntu "[lucid] latest version of Date::Manip breaks tv_grab_uk_rt" [Undecided, Confirmed] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/544522
[20:33] <pmcenery> Daviey: thanks!
[20:50] <camelreef> heading out
[20:50] <camelreef> thanks guys
[20:51] <pmcenery> later camelreef
[21:19] <Daviey> pmcenery: It's a shame you are UK based.. would be nice to test the other grabbers :)
[21:48] <Jay2k1> that launchpad bot should probably learn to follow HTTP 30x redirections