| === holstein is now known as FOSSMAN | ||
| === FOSSMAN is now known as holstein | ||
| patg_ | How can I get some osx icons on my do dock? Ugly icons scare me | 02:48 |
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| holstein | patg_: gnome-do? | 02:53 |
| patg_ | holstein: Yes :) | 02:53 |
| holstein | AFAIK | 02:53 |
| holstein | gnome-do uses your system icons | 02:54 |
| holstein | SO you could try different themes | 02:54 |
| holstein | maybe your using a theme that has non-scalable icons | 02:54 |
| patg_ | holstein: Defualt theme for ubuntu studio | 02:55 |
| holstein | karmic? | 02:55 |
| holstein | you could try another theme easily | 02:56 |
| holstein | and switch back | 02:56 |
| holstein | see if that is the issue | 02:56 |
| holstein | im not sure if the ubuntusudio icons are scalable | 02:56 |
| holstein | should be all kinds of icons @ http://gnome-look.org/ | 02:57 |
| holstein | http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31618 | 02:58 |
| patg_ | holstein: Can I replace them | 02:58 |
| patg_ | Indiidually | 02:58 |
| holstein | hmm | 03:00 |
| holstein | sure | 03:00 |
| holstein | dont know how easy that would be though | 03:00 |
| holstein | ALSO | 03:00 |
| holstein | i prefer the AWN dock | 03:00 |
| patg_ | holstein: Individually? | 03:01 |
| holstein | http://wiki.awn-project.org/ | 03:01 |
| holstein | AWN doesnt use your system icons | 03:01 |
| holstein | and looks nice | 03:01 |
| patg_ | holstein: Is it as easy as do? | 03:01 |
| patg_ | I'm coming from osx. | 03:01 |
| holstein | looks more like OSX | 03:01 |
| holstein | and has more functionality than both -do and OSX's dock | 03:02 |
| holstein | it can be as easy, or easier | 03:02 |
| holstein | BUT you can make it do whatever | 03:02 |
| holstein | i havent used it in a while | 03:02 |
| patg_ | holstein: Is it drag and drop? I thought I tried it before. And I had trouble adding things. Had to use applets or something I couldn't figure out lol | 03:02 |
| holstein | BUT AWN has something like stacks or whatever its called | 03:02 |
| holstein | OH yeah | 03:03 |
| holstein | i dont think so | 03:03 |
| holstein | BUT it has a menu you add apps with | 03:03 |
| holstein | and you can choose whatever icon you want | 03:03 |
| holstein | even a .png you make AFAIK | 03:03 |
| patg_ | Stacks are sick. I'll give it a shot. I wish it were drag and drop though. | 03:04 |
| patg_ | holstein: Thanks. | 03:06 |
| holstein | patg_: :) np | 03:07 |
| holstein | let me know how it goes | 03:07 |
| holstein | i use gnome-do | 03:07 |
| holstein | but not the dock | 03:07 |
| patg_ | holstein: Will do later. Currently on my iPhone lol | 03:08 |
| holstein | laterz | 03:08 |
| Zenker | can someone tell me the formats that ubuntu will allow as background images? | 03:35 |
| holstein | hey Zenker | 03:38 |
| holstein | you mean wallpaper? | 03:38 |
| holstein | desktop wallpaper? | 03:38 |
| Zenker | yep | 03:38 |
| holstein | ive used jpegs and pngs | 03:38 |
| holstein | as far as size, you can stretch or whatever | 03:39 |
| holstein | might look funky though | 03:39 |
| Zenker | ahh, i knew of those. what im doing is trying to find a way to use a transparent background for gnome, and use the multiple background image option in compiz but still have icons drawn ...hmmm... | 03:40 |
| Zenker | what happens is it draws a solid color under the background. i wonder if there is a way to make that transparent | 03:41 |
| holstein | Zenker: COOL | 03:43 |
| holstein | i havenet messed with the multiple background options yet | 03:44 |
| holstein | i know | 03:45 |
| holstein | if i remove my wallpaper file from the pictures dir | 03:45 |
| holstein | my background truns brown | 03:45 |
| holstein | like thats whats going on behind it | 03:45 |
| * holstein shrugs | 03:45 | |
| Zenker | yeah, the thing is for the compiz option to work u have to uncheck the draw background option, which also draws the icons, so if u do that it dosent draw the icons. . . | 03:46 |
| holstein | that would be a deal-breaker for me | 03:47 |
| holstein | i like having the USB drives show up on the desktop | 03:47 |
| Zenker | yep, i agree. i like the clean look myself but as u said the usb drives n others are usefull | 03:47 |
| Zenker | ahh i see, the transparent backgrounds work, however, for the compiz backgrounds to show u MUST disable background draw-gives background controll to compiz, so this means that the compiz backgrounds are not "under" the gnome's backgorund layers, geez. ah well | 03:55 |
| holstein | cool idea though | 03:56 |
| Zenker | but a workaround.. for this 2 work. find backgrounds u like, make pictures for icons and place those (using a pic editor) on the backgrounds then at least youll have a representation of the area of the corresponding to the icons, drawback, if the icons get moved :( | 03:58 |
| Zenker | i think im callin "uncle" on this one rofl | 03:58 |
| holstein | hehe | 03:58 |
| Zenker | well... i could re-write the gnome gui ...yeah right! rofl | 03:59 |
| * holstein puts on a pot of coffee for Zenker ... lol | 04:00 | |
| Zenker | well have 2 see what ubuntu 10 has 2 offer when its done. hopefully they saw all the requests to seperate the icons from the backgorunds or a related suggestion | 04:00 |
| Zenker | have you checkout 10.4 yet? | 04:01 |
| holstein | im running it | 04:01 |
| holstein | on an EEEpc | 04:01 |
| holstein | got a couple installs on SD cards | 04:02 |
| holstein | one fresh install, and one upgrade | 04:02 |
| Zenker | oh, thats right, u already told me that :) did u ever get sound working? | 04:02 |
| holstein | AND a server install | 04:02 |
| holstein | running an icecast server | 04:02 |
| * Zenker dont know nuttin bout no servers rofl | 04:02 | |
| holstein | Zenker: sound is fine, i still got an X crash after resmume from standby | 04:02 |
| holstein | i had my icecast server running on fedora | 04:03 |
| Zenker | what do u use a server for? | 04:03 |
| holstein | i was stoked to learn how to get it running in ubuntu server | 04:03 |
| holstein | Zenker: i use my icecast server to stream audio | 04:03 |
| holstein | from gigs or whatever | 04:03 |
| holstein | OR if im teaching someone something about theory | 04:04 |
| holstein | i can stream my piano to them | 04:04 |
| Zenker | oh cool ure a piano teacher :)) i play a little | 04:04 |
| holstein | cool | 04:04 |
| holstein | i play bass | 04:04 |
| holstein | upright bass | 04:04 |
| holstein | proffesionally | 04:05 |
| holstein | but i play piano to teach/learn/compose | 04:05 |
| holstein | just enough to be trouble ;) | 04:05 |
| holstein | Zenker: when are you going to upgrade to lucid? | 04:05 |
| holstein | i thought about doing a update-manager -d on my studio box | 04:06 |
| Zenker | i dl'd the iso and ran it, ,i didnt have any sound and couldnt get a connection to wireless | 04:06 |
| holstein | i have a laptop i like to test on first though | 04:06 |
| holstein | you need a restricted wireless driver? | 04:07 |
| holstein | broadcom or something? | 04:07 |
| Zenker | no its just a regular sound card umm i forget the name though | 04:07 |
| holstein | hmm | 04:07 |
| holstein | strange | 04:07 |
| Zenker | its onboard i have a dell laptop | 04:07 |
| holstein | i hope thats a bug | 04:08 |
| holstein | something that gets sorted out | 04:08 |
| Zenker | possibly, what im gonna do is install it to a flash drive so i can play with it a while, i dont have the hd space to do a 3rd os | 04:08 |
| Zenker | itll be cool 2 have a carry along os :) that'll really impress some of my frineds i often take my lappid over to their house to show them how 2 do stuff, when i show up with just a flash rofl | 04:10 |
| * Blank__ still doesnt bother with bootable usb because of incompatibility with older computers | 04:11 | |
| Zenker | i wish i could just uninstall windows. stupid vista, but then i couldnt play some of my fav games :( | 04:12 |
| holstein | Blank__: i dont feel like i can haul a bootable USB stick around | 04:12 |
| holstein | and be prepared | 04:12 |
| Blank__ | i could easily lug a cd or two around in my satchel thing | 04:13 |
| Blank__ | problem is, i haven't... | 04:13 |
| Blank__ | also another problem is that i always grab the alternate iso instead of the desktop | 04:13 |
| holstein | i do both, a few CD's and a USB stick | 04:13 |
| Zenker | idont think you can install/uninstall progs n such on a live cd.. but i guess theres a way to install it to cd ? | 04:13 |
| holstein | Zenker: you could roll up your own live CD | 04:14 |
| Zenker | maybe ill go all the way and get a portable hd w like a tb or so rofl | 04:14 |
| holstein | a guy in my LUG is suppose to show me how he does that soon | 04:14 |
| Zenker | ive herd that u can, sounds very complicated however | 04:15 |
| holstein | my friend says its easy | 04:15 |
| holstein | he does it in the CLI too | 04:15 |
| holstein | i was looking at remastersys | 04:15 |
| holstein | SUSE has an iso builder, im surprised theres not an ubuntu equivavlent | 04:16 |
| Zenker | what is SUSE for anyhow? i mean, how is it diff from ubuntu? | 04:18 |
| holstein | hmmm | 04:19 |
| holstein | fair question | 04:19 |
| holstein | i didnt find it as easy | 04:19 |
| holstein | personally | 04:19 |
| Blank__ | yumm instead of apt/pkg? | 04:19 |
| holstein | nice distro though | 04:19 |
| holstein | OH yeah | 04:19 |
| * holstein misses apt | 04:19 | |
| holstein | real quick | 04:19 |
| Blank__ | i havent been able to cache rpms for opensuse, but apt-cacher works very well so thats further cemented me in debian territory | 04:20 |
| holstein | ubuntu repos are fast too | 04:20 |
| holstein | i find | 04:20 |
| holstein | for installing, and updating | 04:20 |
| Blank__ | the main reason i need to cache for my entire lan is because of my internet plan | 04:21 |
| holstein | OH | 04:21 |
| Blank__ | in short, i live in australia, enough said | 04:21 |
| holstein | a ca; | 04:21 |
| holstein | cap* | 04:21 |
| Zenker | eww ouch. i couldnt stand a slow internet connection | 04:21 |
| Blank__ | mine is 512k/512k | 04:21 |
| holstein | drag | 04:21 |
| Blank__ | we could be getting 1.5mbps for the same price though | 04:22 |
| Blank__ | 1.5m/256k | 04:22 |
| holstein | and i complain about my 2meg upload ;) | 04:22 |
| Blank__ | yep, that's the way people always are | 04:22 |
| holstein | hehe | 04:22 |
| holstein | its never fast enough | 04:22 |
| Zenker | i get the 3meg from charter and i still get frustrated sometimes | 04:22 |
| holstein | i got the 10mb from charter | 04:23 |
| holstein | had the 20 | 04:23 |
| Zenker | err.. 10 meg rofl, but they say i can go all the way up 2 50 r smtin, ...at a PRICE | 04:23 |
| holstein | im looking for something with matching up/down | 04:23 |
| holstein | thats not charter | 04:23 |
| Blank__ | i go to an adult educational facility of sorts here in aus, right, and their internet is about 75mbit down | 04:23 |
| Zenker | try diff dns | 04:24 |
| Blank__ | they seem to limit single connections to 4mbit though | 04:24 |
| holstein | i bet thats pretty cool | 04:24 |
| holstein | they might throttle it | 04:24 |
| Blank__ | yeah, i downloaded a 700MB iso in about 4 mins? | 04:24 |
| holstein | w00t | 04:24 |
| Blank__ | i dont know if im going to get in trouble for grabbing isos, but hell, ive already grabbed about 3 | 04:25 |
| holstein | they shouldnt care | 04:26 |
| Blank__ | only problem is, they have a rather draconian proxy | 04:26 |
| Blank__ | they block a hell of a lot of sites | 04:26 |
| holstein | got plenty of bandwidth to spare | 04:26 |
| Blank__ | and in particular, specific files like the openvpn installer | 04:26 |
| holstein | hmmm | 04:26 |
| Blank__ | and "file hosting sites" like megaupload/rapidshare | 04:27 |
| holstein | i guess some sys-admin has a reason | 04:27 |
| holstein | maybe when the logs are checked | 04:27 |
| holstein | ubuntu.com will be blocked too ;) | 04:27 |
| Blank__ | i tried using phproxy through my server and they blocked it within 3 mins :( | 04:28 |
| Blank__ | oh, i think ubuntu was fine | 04:28 |
| Blank__ | i went straight to a mirror site anyway | 04:28 |
| Zenker | have you tried beemp3.com or torrents? | 04:31 |
| Blank__ | nope | 04:31 |
| Blank__ | not sure if i want to try my luck either | 04:31 |
| Zenker | i missed it, who did u say was blocking everything? | 04:32 |
| Blank__ | the adult ed place i go to | 04:33 |
| Blank__ | it's part of the whole education network | 04:33 |
| Zenker | ahh i see. yeah i wouldnt mess wit it either | 04:34 |
| Blank__ | it's kinda like uni but more casual | 04:34 |
| Zenker | at first i ws thinking it was the government, like they do in some other places | 04:34 |
| Blank__ | it is essentially government | 04:35 |
| Blank__ | as in, it's part of the government's whole education system | 04:35 |
| Zenker | ahh but i mean like in umm i forget where, but the entire internet blocks certain sites from other countries, and they make it seriously illegal to even attempt to find a way to connect to them | 04:36 |
| Zenker | think it was china or japan r somewhere like that | 04:37 |
| Blank__ | china | 04:37 |
| Blank__ | the great firewall of china | 04:37 |
| Zenker | im sure at some point itll be that way everywhere, but, also im sure someone will find a way :) | 04:38 |
| Zenker | heay holstein, would you mind if i started a side bar with you and asked u a couple of q's about piano playing? | 04:41 |
| holstein | Zenker: sure | 04:46 |
| holstein | anytime | 04:47 |
| rainc | howdy. having some trouble getting jack running realtime, been sifting through forum posts | 19:49 |
| rainc | i'm running plain ubuntu on the realtime kernel | 19:50 |
| rainc | jack tells me "cannot use real-time scheduling" but i have those things set in /etc/security/limits.conf | 19:51 |
| rainc | rtprio, memlock, and nice | 19:51 |
| rainc | oh i don't have pam_limits module | 19:52 |
| rainc | it exists but won't load? | 20:00 |
| AnAnt | Hello | 20:02 |
| AnAnt | the ubuntustudio-plymouth-theme package is empty (except for stuff in /usr/share/doc/ubuntustudio-plymouth-theme) | 20:02 |
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