=== holstein is now known as FOSSMAN === FOSSMAN is now known as holstein [02:48] How can I get some osx icons on my do dock? Ugly icons scare me [02:53] patg_: gnome-do? [02:53] holstein: Yes :) [02:53] AFAIK [02:54] gnome-do uses your system icons [02:54] SO you could try different themes [02:54] maybe your using a theme that has non-scalable icons [02:55] holstein: Defualt theme for ubuntu studio [02:55] karmic? [02:56] you could try another theme easily [02:56] and switch back [02:56] see if that is the issue [02:56] im not sure if the ubuntusudio icons are scalable [02:57] should be all kinds of icons @ http://gnome-look.org/ [02:58] http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31618 [02:58] holstein: Can I replace them [02:58] Indiidually [03:00] hmm [03:00] sure [03:00] dont know how easy that would be though [03:00] ALSO [03:00] i prefer the AWN dock [03:01] holstein: Individually? [03:01] http://wiki.awn-project.org/ [03:01] AWN doesnt use your system icons [03:01] and looks nice [03:01] holstein: Is it as easy as do? [03:01] I'm coming from osx. [03:01] looks more like OSX [03:02] and has more functionality than both -do and OSX's dock [03:02] it can be as easy, or easier [03:02] BUT you can make it do whatever [03:02] i havent used it in a while [03:02] holstein: Is it drag and drop? I thought I tried it before. And I had trouble adding things. Had to use applets or something I couldn't figure out lol [03:02] BUT AWN has something like stacks or whatever its called [03:03] OH yeah [03:03] i dont think so [03:03] BUT it has a menu you add apps with [03:03] and you can choose whatever icon you want [03:03] even a .png you make AFAIK [03:04] Stacks are sick. I'll give it a shot. I wish it were drag and drop though. [03:06] holstein: Thanks. [03:07] patg_: :) np [03:07] let me know how it goes [03:07] i use gnome-do [03:07] but not the dock [03:08] holstein: Will do later. Currently on my iPhone lol [03:08] laterz [03:35] can someone tell me the formats that ubuntu will allow as background images? [03:38] hey Zenker [03:38] you mean wallpaper? [03:38] desktop wallpaper? [03:38] yep [03:38] ive used jpegs and pngs [03:39] as far as size, you can stretch or whatever [03:39] might look funky though [03:40] ahh, i knew of those. what im doing is trying to find a way to use a transparent background for gnome, and use the multiple background image option in compiz but still have icons drawn ...hmmm... [03:41] what happens is it draws a solid color under the background. i wonder if there is a way to make that transparent [03:43] Zenker: COOL [03:44] i havenet messed with the multiple background options yet [03:45] i know [03:45] if i remove my wallpaper file from the pictures dir [03:45] my background truns brown [03:45] like thats whats going on behind it [03:45] * holstein shrugs [03:46] yeah, the thing is for the compiz option to work u have to uncheck the draw background option, which also draws the icons, so if u do that it dosent draw the icons. . . [03:47] that would be a deal-breaker for me [03:47] i like having the USB drives show up on the desktop [03:47] yep, i agree. i like the clean look myself but as u said the usb drives n others are usefull [03:55] ahh i see, the transparent backgrounds work, however, for the compiz backgrounds to show u MUST disable background draw-gives background controll to compiz, so this means that the compiz backgrounds are not "under" the gnome's backgorund layers, geez. ah well [03:56] cool idea though [03:58] but a workaround.. for this 2 work. find backgrounds u like, make pictures for icons and place those (using a pic editor) on the backgrounds then at least youll have a representation of the area of the corresponding to the icons, drawback, if the icons get moved :( [03:58] i think im callin "uncle" on this one rofl [03:58] hehe [03:59] well... i could re-write the gnome gui ...yeah right! rofl [04:00] * holstein puts on a pot of coffee for Zenker ... lol [04:00] well have 2 see what ubuntu 10 has 2 offer when its done. hopefully they saw all the requests to seperate the icons from the backgorunds or a related suggestion [04:01] have you checkout 10.4 yet? [04:01] im running it [04:01] on an EEEpc [04:02] got a couple installs on SD cards [04:02] one fresh install, and one upgrade [04:02] oh, thats right, u already told me that :) did u ever get sound working? [04:02] AND a server install [04:02] running an icecast server [04:02] * Zenker dont know nuttin bout no servers rofl [04:02] Zenker: sound is fine, i still got an X crash after resmume from standby [04:03] i had my icecast server running on fedora [04:03] what do u use a server for? [04:03] i was stoked to learn how to get it running in ubuntu server [04:03] Zenker: i use my icecast server to stream audio [04:03] from gigs or whatever [04:04] OR if im teaching someone something about theory [04:04] i can stream my piano to them [04:04] oh cool ure a piano teacher :)) i play a little [04:04] cool [04:04] i play bass [04:04] upright bass [04:05] proffesionally [04:05] but i play piano to teach/learn/compose [04:05] just enough to be trouble ;) [04:05] Zenker: when are you going to upgrade to lucid? [04:06] i thought about doing a update-manager -d on my studio box [04:06] i dl'd the iso and ran it, ,i didnt have any sound and couldnt get a connection to wireless [04:06] i have a laptop i like to test on first though [04:07] you need a restricted wireless driver? [04:07] broadcom or something? [04:07] no its just a regular sound card umm i forget the name though [04:07] hmm [04:07] strange [04:07] its onboard i have a dell laptop [04:08] i hope thats a bug [04:08] something that gets sorted out [04:08] possibly, what im gonna do is install it to a flash drive so i can play with it a while, i dont have the hd space to do a 3rd os [04:10] itll be cool 2 have a carry along os :) that'll really impress some of my frineds i often take my lappid over to their house to show them how 2 do stuff, when i show up with just a flash rofl [04:11] * Blank__ still doesnt bother with bootable usb because of incompatibility with older computers [04:12] i wish i could just uninstall windows. stupid vista, but then i couldnt play some of my fav games :( [04:12] Blank__: i dont feel like i can haul a bootable USB stick around [04:12] and be prepared [04:13] i could easily lug a cd or two around in my satchel thing [04:13] problem is, i haven't... [04:13] also another problem is that i always grab the alternate iso instead of the desktop [04:13] i do both, a few CD's and a USB stick [04:13] idont think you can install/uninstall progs n such on a live cd.. but i guess theres a way to install it to cd ? [04:14] Zenker: you could roll up your own live CD [04:14] maybe ill go all the way and get a portable hd w like a tb or so rofl [04:14] a guy in my LUG is suppose to show me how he does that soon [04:15] ive herd that u can, sounds very complicated however [04:15] my friend says its easy [04:15] he does it in the CLI too [04:15] i was looking at remastersys [04:16] SUSE has an iso builder, im surprised theres not an ubuntu equivavlent [04:18] what is SUSE for anyhow? i mean, how is it diff from ubuntu? [04:19] hmmm [04:19] fair question [04:19] i didnt find it as easy [04:19] personally [04:19] yumm instead of apt/pkg? [04:19] nice distro though [04:19] OH yeah [04:19] * holstein misses apt [04:19] real quick [04:20] i havent been able to cache rpms for opensuse, but apt-cacher works very well so thats further cemented me in debian territory [04:20] ubuntu repos are fast too [04:20] i find [04:20] for installing, and updating [04:21] the main reason i need to cache for my entire lan is because of my internet plan [04:21] OH [04:21] in short, i live in australia, enough said [04:21] a ca; [04:21] cap* [04:21] eww ouch. i couldnt stand a slow internet connection [04:21] mine is 512k/512k [04:21] drag [04:22] we could be getting 1.5mbps for the same price though [04:22] 1.5m/256k [04:22] and i complain about my 2meg upload ;) [04:22] yep, that's the way people always are [04:22] hehe [04:22] its never fast enough [04:22] i get the 3meg from charter and i still get frustrated sometimes [04:23] i got the 10mb from charter [04:23] had the 20 [04:23] err.. 10 meg rofl, but they say i can go all the way up 2 50 r smtin, ...at a PRICE [04:23] im looking for something with matching up/down [04:23] thats not charter [04:23] i go to an adult educational facility of sorts here in aus, right, and their internet is about 75mbit down [04:24] try diff dns [04:24] they seem to limit single connections to 4mbit though [04:24] i bet thats pretty cool [04:24] they might throttle it [04:24] yeah, i downloaded a 700MB iso in about 4 mins? [04:24] w00t [04:25] i dont know if im going to get in trouble for grabbing isos, but hell, ive already grabbed about 3 [04:26] they shouldnt care [04:26] only problem is, they have a rather draconian proxy [04:26] they block a hell of a lot of sites [04:26] got plenty of bandwidth to spare [04:26] and in particular, specific files like the openvpn installer [04:26] hmmm [04:27] and "file hosting sites" like megaupload/rapidshare [04:27] i guess some sys-admin has a reason [04:27] maybe when the logs are checked [04:27] ubuntu.com will be blocked too ;) [04:28] i tried using phproxy through my server and they blocked it within 3 mins :( [04:28] oh, i think ubuntu was fine [04:28] i went straight to a mirror site anyway [04:31] have you tried beemp3.com or torrents? [04:31] nope [04:31] not sure if i want to try my luck either [04:32] i missed it, who did u say was blocking everything? [04:33] the adult ed place i go to [04:33] it's part of the whole education network [04:34] ahh i see. yeah i wouldnt mess wit it either [04:34] it's kinda like uni but more casual [04:34] at first i ws thinking it was the government, like they do in some other places [04:35] it is essentially government [04:35] as in, it's part of the government's whole education system [04:36] ahh but i mean like in umm i forget where, but the entire internet blocks certain sites from other countries, and they make it seriously illegal to even attempt to find a way to connect to them [04:37] think it was china or japan r somewhere like that [04:37] china [04:37] the great firewall of china [04:38] im sure at some point itll be that way everywhere, but, also im sure someone will find a way :) [04:41] heay holstein, would you mind if i started a side bar with you and asked u a couple of q's about piano playing? [04:46] Zenker: sure [04:47] anytime [19:49] howdy. having some trouble getting jack running realtime, been sifting through forum posts [19:50] i'm running plain ubuntu on the realtime kernel [19:51] jack tells me "cannot use real-time scheduling" but i have those things set in /etc/security/limits.conf [19:51] rtprio, memlock, and nice [19:52] oh i don't have pam_limits module [20:00] it exists but won't load? [20:02] Hello [20:02] the ubuntustudio-plymouth-theme package is empty (except for stuff in /usr/share/doc/ubuntustudio-plymouth-theme)