[00:33] <kjajsdk> How can I install kubuntu from my pc?
[00:33] <kjajsdk> without using wubi.
[00:34] <jovis> burn a bootable cd and run it?
[00:34] <kjajsdk> I dont have a cd right now..
[00:34] <kjajsdk> Isnt there a way to install it from the pc?
[00:35] <gottto> kjajsdk: d/load the cd iso - burn to disk - boot into the livecd - click install or use an usb
[00:35] <gottto> there's pxe iirc
[00:35] <jovis> yea put it on a usb then
[00:35] <gottto> !unetbootin
[00:35] <kjajsdk> Well.. theres a problem am facing.
[00:35] <kjajsdk> Each time I try to install Kubuntu on my machine, it doesnt work..
[00:36] <kjajsdk> I thought its a HDD problem.
[00:36] <jovis> it doesnt like you
[00:36] <gottto> heh
[00:36] <kjajsdk> I removed win7 and all partitions, and fixed it using partedmagic..
[00:36] <jovis> i dont like you either
[00:36] <jovis> i have the death sentence on 12 systems
[00:36] <kjajsdk> I shreded my HDD.. and still now working..
[00:36] <gottto> play nice now
[00:36] <kjajsdk> jovis stfu kthx.
[00:36] <kjajsdk> gottto any idea why?
[00:37] <jovis> you have no cd or cd burner?
[00:37] <kjajsdk> I do.. but why each time I install it, it fails?
[00:37] <gottto> kjajsdk: only that the hd might be broke...
[00:37] <jovis> fails exactly how
[00:37] <gottto> or the cd is kaput
[00:37] <gottto> does bad burns
[00:37] <kjajsdk> jovis after logging on Kubuntu, it freezes off..
[00:38] <kjajsdk> I tried ubuntu, it kept giving me kernal error
[00:38] <jovis> try a different distro
[00:38] <jovis> i had problems with fedora core on my machine
[00:38] <jovis> i had to go to ubunto or suse
[00:38] <gottto> it'll be the cd burner doing bad burns - check the disk when you first boot into it
[00:38] <gottto> kjajsdk: ^^
[00:39] <kjajsdk> gottto I checked it..
[00:39] <gottto> k
[00:39] <kjajsdk> It gave me no defects.
[00:39] <kjajsdk> It worked fine on another machine..
[00:39] <kjajsdk> But mine, no.
[00:39] <gottto> kjajsdk: what's the comp you're using?
[00:39] <kjajsdk> HP-DV6.
[00:39] <kjajsdk> The old Ubuntu/Kubuntu works fine..
[00:39] <kjajsdk> The 9.04
[00:40] <gottto> seems very odd...
[00:40] <gottto> kjajsdk: try the usb live
[00:40] <kjajsdk> I used the same CD on a different machine and it works just fine..
[00:40] <jovis> if the thing actually installs i would doube the burner is bad
[00:40] <gottto> yep
[00:40] <jovis> *doubt
[00:41] <kjajsdk> It installs on other machines.
[00:41] <kjajsdk> but this one, no ;/
[00:41] <jovis> just try a differerent distro
[00:41] <kjajsdk> What do u recommand?
[00:41] <gottto> it does sound like it is your hardware tho
[00:41] <jovis> i dunno, ive ran fedora code, suse, ubuntu
[00:41] <kjajsdk> How come? The 9.04 works fine
[00:42] <jovis> done ask me i didnt write the code
[00:42] <gottto> the 9.10 kernel might not agree with your hware for some reason
[00:42] <gottto> diff drivers etc
[00:42] <kjajsdk> Shall I try fedora?
[00:42] <jovis> pick whichever you want
[00:43] <jovis> i meant fedora core*
[00:43] <kjajsdk> What do u recommand me other than Kubuntu/Ubuntu?
[00:43] <gottto> I'd stick with debian based for apt
[00:43] <kjajsdk> Other distro i mean
[00:43] <kjajsdk> I like KDE :/
[00:43] <jovis> its all basically unix, i dunno, im not the guy to ask about that
[00:43] <gottto> look on distrowatch
[00:44] <gottto> and find a kde based one
[00:44] <Typos_King> kjajsdk:     sounds like a bad installation to me
[00:44] <jovis> give me a bash shell and im happy
[00:44] <Riddell> ** testers needed for KDE SC 4.4.2 on karmic
[00:45] <kjajsdk> Typos_King I did the same installtion on another machine, and it worked fine..
[00:45] <Typos_King> same cd?
[00:46] <kjajsdk> Typos_King Yes.
[00:46] <nixternal> TESTERS NEED FOR KDE SC 4.4.2 ON KARMIC - join us in #kubuntu-devel if you are interested in testing
[00:46] <nixternal> TESTERS NEED FOR KDE SC 4.4.2 ON KARMIC - join us in #kubuntu-devel if you are interested in testing
[00:46] <nixternal> TESTERS NEED FOR KDE SC 4.4.2 ON KARMIC - join us in #kubuntu-devel if you are interested in testing
[00:46] <FloodBotK1> nixternal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:46] <nixternal> that's what I thought
[00:47] <Typos_King> hehe
[00:48] <kjajsdk> Typos_King Shall I try a different distro?
[00:48] <kjajsdk> Maybe some hardwares doesnt accept ubuntu/kubuntu?
[00:48] <Typos_King> well
[00:49] <Typos_King> ahe... I'd thik is yes, some hardware incompatibility, it woudln't give a kernel stuff though
[00:49] <kjajsdk> Where can I find Fedora KDE 64bit?
[00:49] <Typos_King> is this a branded machine?  nec/compaq?
[00:49] <kjajsdk> Typos_King: HP
[00:50] <zus> so im trying to import akey, and when i open the kpackagekit... and navigate to import it ... "the process dies unexpectedly" whats going  on here?
[00:50] <Typos_King> ahh, you mean  you're installing the 64bit version..
[00:50] <kjajsdk> Yeah.
[00:50] <kjajsdk> My machine is 64bit.
[00:50] <Typos_King> kjajsdk:    you can install any distribution, and then install kde after
[00:50] <jovis> has anyone ever messed with a honeypot? i think i found one
[00:51] <kjajsdk> So its possible that fedora might work on my machine?
[00:51] <jovis> try fedora core, and try suse
[00:51] <Typos_King> I think so, and possibly kubuntu too, is just a matter of drivers
[00:51] <jovis> some distors didnt work on my machine in similar ways that you are describing
[00:52] <Typos_King> I mean, first I'd check the syslog and Xserver.0.log  to see what they say about drivers and any errors
[00:52] <kjajsdk> I cant find fedora.iso
[00:52] <Typos_King> and then download the .deb packages needed, like say. maybe linux-backports, maybe a kernel and maybe the restricted drivers, and installing in  a console session manually
[00:52] <Typos_King> then try to log into kde
[00:53] <kjajsdk> I cant find fedora.iso ;/
[00:53] <Typos_King> ahem
[00:54] <kjajsdk> Whats live CD?
[00:54] <Typos_King> kjajsdk:    you want 1 cd or 1 dvd?
[00:54] <Typos_King> hehe
[00:54] <kjajsdk> 1 cd.
[00:54] <Typos_King> oui
[00:54] <kjajsdk> Whats live CD? It says 700MB iso file.. It install it live?
[00:54] <Typos_King> those .... many distributions usually issue more than one heeh
[00:54] <Typos_King> live?   no
[00:55] <kjajsdk> What does it mean by live cd?
[00:55] <Typos_King> is a live cd :), it runs live
[00:55] <WaveADeadChicken> the disk that one can use without installing
[00:55] <kjajsdk> U mean via internet connection?
[00:56] <Typos_King> for someone using a 64bit system, I'd expect them to know that
[00:56] <Typos_King> heheh
[00:56] <Typos_King> maybe you could use the 32bit I'd gather
[00:56] <jovis> typo_king you so mean
[00:56] <jovis> im just a 29 bit hacker
[00:56] <kjajsdk> Typos_King But I have 64bit machine
[00:57] <Typos_King> something tells me some folks mistake dual-core for 64bit
[00:57] <Typos_King> well.... I buy that
[00:57] <jovis> have you ever codeed asm on ia-64?
[00:57] <kjajsdk> Guys ur not helping ;/
[00:57] <kjajsdk> Whats a live cd?
[00:57] <jovis> ia-64 asm is quite interesting
[00:57] <kjajsdk> It runs from the internet?
[00:57] <Typos_King> I just find odd someone who runs a 64bit hardware and dunno what a live-cd is, most folks who run a 64bit system is usually for a server and they have some kind of administration backgrond
[00:58] <kjajsdk> I bought this laptop from HP.
[00:58] <kjajsdk> And it happened to be 64bit..
[00:58] <kjajsdk> I didnt choose it this way
[00:58] <James147> Typos_King: most moderen processors are 64bit
[00:58] <Typos_King> well
[00:59] <James147> Typos_King: even windows are starting to make the move.... slowly as it may be
[00:59] <kjajsdk> So can any1 please explain?
[01:00] <Typos_King> ......... alrite
[01:00] <James147> kjajsdk: a live cd is a cd that will boot into a fully functional desktop so you can try it out without istalling it.... from most live cds yo can also chose to install it to a harddisk
[01:00] <Typos_King> James147:    and kjajsdk  can't run a 32bit OS in it?
[01:00] <kjajsdk> So can any1 please explain?
[01:00] <Typos_King> I'd think he may be able to :)
[01:00] <James147> Typos_King: 64bit can run 32bit, cant the other way around
[01:00] <Typos_King> right
[01:00] <Typos_King> well...
[01:01] <WaveADeadChicken> download the live disk iso, burn it to a disk, put it in a drive and reboot, and the just relax and have fun
[01:01] <kjajsdk> I hope this distro will work on my machine
[01:01] <kjajsdk> am suck of windows expecially win7!
[01:01] <Typos_King> I may be getting ... too old... last I recall poking hardware pages, it was just dual-core stuff, which isn't 64bit per se
[01:01] <kjajsdk> especially *
[01:01] <Typos_King> hehh
[01:01] <kjajsdk> alright guys.
[01:01] <kjajsdk> thanks for ur help :)
[01:01] <James147> Typos_King: your right, dual core dosent have to be 64 bit, but most of them are
[01:02] <Typos_King> kjajsdk:    I don't think the fedora live cd may install, btw
[01:02] <Typos_King> it may run live, but not sure on the installation part to HD
[01:02] <kjajsdk> Typos_King argh.. why not?
[01:02] <kjajsdk> Why not?
[01:03] <Typos_King> kjajsdk:     as far as I know, with the exception of ubuntu variants since 7.x which do both, live and optional install, other distributions only distribute either
[01:03] <Typos_King> I think I may have seen a couple other, but not many
[01:04] <kjajsdk> Maybe fedora's distro is compatible with my machine
[01:04] <Typos_King> yea, but it doesn't come in 1cd though for install to hd, I don't think
[01:04] <Typos_King> I poke their site and it showed 11cds or dvd
[01:04] <Typos_King> same with debian, and suse and others
[01:04] <kjajsdk> 11cds?
[01:04] <kjajsdk> It says 700MB!
[01:05] <Typos_King> heheh
[01:05] <Typos_King> 11cds or 1 dvd, for HD install
[01:05] <Typos_King> no for live session running
[01:05] <kjajsdk> Whats the difference?
[01:06] <kjajsdk> Sorry about my stupid newbie questions.
[01:06] <Typos_King> most live-cd that I know of, don't install to hd
[01:06] <kjajsdk> But we all start soemwhere
[01:06] <kjajsdk> somewhere
[01:06] <Typos_King> like knoppix, you can run it off a cd and works good, but won't give you the HD install option
[01:06] <kjajsdk> Oh okaay..
[01:06] <Typos_King> kjajsdk:   why not try the kubuntu 32bit?
[01:07] <kjajsdk> I tried Kubuntu 64 bit.
[01:07] <Typos_King> yes
[01:07] <Typos_King> kjajsdk:   why not try the kubuntu 32bit?
[01:07] <kjajsdk> It freezes off my machine after logging in..
[01:07] <kjajsdk> Isnt it the same?
[01:07] <Typos_King> soooooooooo
[01:07] <Typos_King> no
[01:07] <kjajsdk> What makes u sure that it might work?
[01:07] <kjajsdk> I tried installing Kubuntu like an hour ago..
[01:08] <kjajsdk> It didnt continue the installion..
[01:08] <kjajsdk> It just froze with a blackscreen
[01:08] <Typos_King> the 32bit might have drivers that may work with your hardware better, than the 64bit version package
[01:08] <Typos_King> yeah, we heard that, on the 64bit though
[01:09] <kjajsdk> Like after it gives u the Kubuntu logo and the loader.. it freezes..
[01:09] <Typos_King> plus as I said, I'd work with the 64bit one, but getting .deb files and isntalling manually, like Restricted drivers and backports
[01:10] <kjajsdk> So ur advice is to try the 32 bit?
[01:10] <Typos_King> before logging into a kde session, and for all we know is just kwin, the kde window manager the one freezing, meaning, if you were to run some other window manager, like fluxbox, it may just run, and you can work from there to get more drivers or another kernel
[01:11] <Typos_King> sure, the 32bit may have prepackaged drivers that maybe more compatible with your hardware
[01:11] <kjajsdk> yeah.. when it was installed once, after logging it.. It freezes..
[01:11] <kjajsdk> I removed it, and then tried to install it again.. It didnt work, it just gave me a blackscreen
[01:11] <Typos_King> after logging in, that means when kwin started running startup services and processes
[01:12] <Typos_King> just 'kwin' freezes doesn't mean all window managers will
[01:12] <kjajsdk> It freezes like I cant do anything on the computer..
[01:12] <kjajsdk> Cant click anything, cursor stops moving.. cant press on the keyboard..
[01:12] <Typos_King> after logging in, that means when kwin started running startup services and processes
[01:12] <Typos_King> not before
[01:12] <Typos_King> so, it booted fine
[01:13] <kjajsdk> yea..
[01:13] <Typos_King> and loaded fine, the issue came about when it tried to get the kde window manager and its startup processes running
[01:13] <kjajsdk> it booted fine.
[01:13] <kjajsdk> After i enter my username and password, it freezes off..
[01:14] <kjajsdk> Would 32bit solve this?
[01:14] <Typos_King> not all window managers load the same processes or use the same configurations
[01:14] <Typos_King> dunno, I'd think it may
[01:14] <kjajsdk> If it didnt.. Shall I try fedora?
[01:14] <Typos_King> I'd think you're the only one in this channel running 64bit I bet
[01:14] <Typos_King> hehe, everyone else who is not having such issues, is using 32bit
[01:15] <kjajsdk> The only reason ive chosen 64bit, because when I right clicked on "My computer - proporties" it says 64bit..
[01:16] <Typos_King> try the 32bit then
[01:16] <kjajsdk> I will :).
[01:16] <kjajsdk> Thanks alot Typos_King.
[01:16] <kjajsdk> See ya all tomorrow :).
[01:16] <kjajsdk> Good night.
[01:16] <Typos_King> ok
[01:16] <FloodBotK1> kjajsdk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:17] <Tm_T> silly bot
[01:22] <ForgeAus> I found out how to update fiesty
[01:22] <ForgeAus> need to replace archive.ubuntu.com with old-releases.ubuntu.com
[01:22] <ForgeAus> since fesity is no longer supported
[01:22] <ForgeAus> ie, has reached end-of-life !... (so sad)
[01:23] <James147> ForgeAus: but happens to everything eventually :(
[01:23] <ForgeAus> well feisty was the only ISO I had on hand
[01:24] <ForgeAus> and it wasn't THAT long ago... ubuntu release cycle is quicker than I thought lol
[01:24] <James147> ForgeAus: Cant you DL a now one?
[01:24] <ForgeAus> or has proven to be... in some ways
[01:24] <ForgeAus> sure I can
[01:24] <ForgeAus> just.. takes... time
[01:24] <ForgeAus> my connection is slow too which doesn't help
[01:25] <James147> ForgeAus: less time then updating everything? ... with possible problems for upgrading so much?
[01:25] <ForgeAus> thats the problem best to use a live distro and fresh install new ones...
[01:26] <ForgeAus> but what to do about your old data/non OS-files you had?
[01:26] <ForgeAus> how to know which ones to copy/backup/etc?
[01:26] <James147> ForgeAus: generally everything in /home you should backup
[01:26] <Typos_King> ahemm
[01:26] <ForgeAus> james, I agree with that
[01:26] <Typos_King> what's wrong with feisty?
[01:26] <ForgeAus> nothings WRONG with feisty, its just, outlived its lifespan for updates
[01:27] <ForgeAus> you need to replace archive.ubuntu.com wtih old-releases.ubuntu.com in sources.list
[01:27] <Typos_King> of updates?    soooo
[01:27] <James147> ForgeAus: if you have anything stored anywhere else then you really should know about it :)
[01:27] <Typos_King> rihgt I know that part
[01:27] <Typos_King> ForgeAus:    that doesn't stop me from installing packages though, even new ones, it depends onwhat package that is, firefox latest will run fine
[01:28] <James147> ForgeAus: I like wiping my os every version.... thats why I keep /home on a serpatre partitions... makes it alot easier as I just need to re mount and have all my old settings :D
[01:30] <ForgeAus> hmmm I thought most config settings were in .etc
[01:31] <James147> ForgeAus: system wide settings yes
[01:31] <James147> ForgeAus: but most need to be edited manually... have you edited any?
[01:31] <ForgeAus> yes but even though its human readable text lots of settings I don't exactly understand lol
[01:32] <ForgeAus> although I'm learning, slowly
[01:32] <James147> ForgeAus: I suggest you mack up and files you know you have edited, but generally I dont change enough of them to worry about it and though I do change I can easaly edit back again :)
[01:32] <James147> make ^^
[01:33] <ForgeAus> yes I recommend keeping backups of edited files too
[01:33] <ForgeAus> mostly /etc is full of what windows used to use as .ini files...
[01:34] <ForgeAus> until the evil system registry come in and changed everything
[01:35] <ForgeAus> although from memroy I think even win3.11 had a system registry I remember doing something with it and the original word 6, but nothing so, extensive as what XP and later have...
[02:05] <AzureDragon> Are the lucid repos down? I can't connect to them
[02:07] <AzureDragon> Wait, i'm good. They work now. I didn't do anything though (other than trying again after a few mins)
[02:08] <James147> AzureDragon: probally a connecton problems somewhere along the line :)
[03:06] <luis_> Hello I got a CD with a setup.bin I need to install in Linux, how I can do it?
[03:07] <tamran> can anyone please  help me get a 2nd gen ipod nano to work with Kubuntu 9.10 ... I've tried countless things and have a bunch of programs installed and still I can't find an app that works with it.  KDE itself finds the ipod fine though ...
[03:12] <vbgunz> is there a way to check xorg options like renderaccel, backingstore?
[03:12] <nullkuhl> i try to boot with karmic cd on HP envy 15 laptop, i get : Fail in evaluating the _REG object of EC device, Broken BIOS is Suspected.. , i went to hp website to check for bios updates, found nothing there. plz advice ! i cant install/run Kubuntu :S
[03:16] <sky_> hello
[03:18] <sky_> i need help installing flash player for browser, i am using kubuntu
[03:18] <sky_> latest
[03:20] <zus> sky_,  i was given this when i needed help...http://kubuntuguide.org/
[03:20] <sky_> ok thanks
[03:21] <zus> sky_,  it helped me, a ton! im glad i'm able to pass it on and help back.
[03:28] <zus> has anyone installed runes of magic on kubuntu910 kde4.4?
[03:31] <zus> do i down load all 5 individial files or the one 5.69 gig one wich i did and in 2 seconds it downloaded....wich is why im asking that was too fast for a file that big.
[03:32] <rainy-day> Hm, I fdisk deleted a mounted partition, and then ran mkfs on it, and I can't umount - it says 'busy' - how can I force-umount it?
[03:46] <iconmefisto> rainy-day: you can use the fuser command to find out which process is keeping it busy. eg: sudo fuser -m /dev/sdb1 (if sdb1 is the partition)
[03:47] <rainy-day> iconmefisto: I already rebooted that system and now I can't fdisk that card at all.. I think I screwed up the flash card.. oh well
[03:48] <rainy-day> thanks!
[03:49] <iconmefisto> rainy-day: well at least they're not too expensive to replace these days :)
[03:52] <rainy-day> my thoughts exactly :)
[07:36] <Ahmed\> Hello
[07:36] <Ahmed\> I have installed airhack from terminal, How do i try it on my own wireless ?
[07:39] <Ahmed\> Hello ?
[08:15] <padi999> hi all
[08:16] <padi999> I would like to test 10.04
[08:16] <padi999> is it possible to have it chosable in the grub so I don't have to let go totally of my 9.10?
[08:18] <noaXess> hello all
[08:18] <noaXess> what is now the preffered scan app for kde4?
[08:24] <gottto> !xsane
[08:25] <noaXess> gottto: kooka. is that still available? apt-cache search kooka shows nothing
[08:26] <noaXess> think will install Xsane.. thanks
[08:26] <gottto> I don't think so - go with xsane - it should already be installed afaik
[08:27] <RurouniJones> Has anyone else lost ibus functionality since the last ibus upgrade?
[08:27] <RurouniJones> It no longer works for me in a number of programs it worked before. says "no input window" for things like firefox, thunderbird etc.
[08:41] <plattdeutscher> does anybody know some source of instant messaging usage statistics? (which protocol is used by which percentage, etc.)
[08:50] <Ahmed\> Hi
[08:50] <Ahmed\> How do i turn off the tab window on kopete while i am havnig a chat window ?
[08:57] <fale> hi
[08:57] <Ahmed\> hi
[08:59] <Ahmed\> ohh
[09:29] <Ahmed\> Hello
[09:29] <Ahmed\> HOw do i install realplayer on ubuntu ?
[09:29] <Ahmed\> i downloaded but shows broken packages i mean can't install it !
[09:32] <gottto> Ahmed\: try to update apt then upgrade and see how that goes
[09:33] <Ahmed\> okay
[09:33] <Ahmed\> Oh i didn't thought it will get upgrade !
[09:33] <Ahmed\> its downloading :)
[09:33] <Ahmed\> should i try after that completes ?
[09:34] <gottto> you  can try it yes
[09:34] <Ahmed\> what is this command for ? killall gnome-panel ?
[09:34] <Ahmed\> :)
[09:34] <gottto> it kills all gnome panels - stops them dead
[09:35] <Ahmed\> umm
[09:35] <Ahmed\> i mean what is this command for ? i mean should i run it before install anything ?
[09:36] <gottto> only run that command if you want to not have gnome panel show on your desktop
[09:36] <Ahmed\> what is a gnome panel then ?i mean i did run but nothing happen
[09:36] <gottto> gnome panel is the bar top and bottom in ubuntu
[09:37] <gottto> where it says applications
[09:37] <gottto> gnome panel is not in kubuntu
[09:37] <Ahmed\> yes i can see that but it didn't disappear
[09:37] <Ahmed\> :)
[09:38] <gottto> prob didn't disappear 'cause it wasn't there...
[09:39] <Ahmed\> I mean why would i ever use that command for ? its like refreshing Gnome !
[09:40] <gottto> it doesn't refresh - it would get rid of the menu etc - you would do it to make a change in the config or something
[09:40] <Ahmed\> ohh
[09:43] <Ahmed\> Hello ?
[09:43] <Ahmed\> Actually i downloaded mac4lin but couldnt install it
[09:43] <Ahmed\> can you help me how to use airhack ? :)
[09:46] <gottto> Ahmed\: I never used it sorry
[09:46] <Ahmed\> Ohh
[09:46] <Ahmed\> So do you know any program which cracks wifi :)
[09:46] <gottto> I don't do wireless - to easy to crack :)
[09:47] <Ahmed\> umm
[09:48] <Ahmed\> okay upgrade completed
[09:48] <Ahmed\> now
[09:48] <Ahmed\> ?
[09:48] <Ahmed\> which package db ? of realplayer
[09:48] <Ahmed\> cause i tried all !
[09:48] <gottto> try the realplayer see if the upgrade brought in the broken packages
[09:49] <Ahmed\> Okay the same package ? you mean which is broken right ?
[09:50] <Ahmed\> Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'
[09:50] <Ahmed\> still the same
[09:54] <Ahmed\> RealPlayer11GOLD.deb
[09:54] <Ahmed\> i cant just install it WTF
[10:19] <Ahmed\> Hello
[10:20] <Ahmed\> How do i see that open windows on taskbar cause i created it i lost it all settings etc so the only thing is left is i can't see the open windows in that place tastbar i had to ALT TAB to switch :)
[10:24] <iconmefisto> Ahmed\: add the taskbar widget to it
[10:25] <iconmefisto> Ahmed\: add systray too, unless you don't want it
[10:32] <tew88> Does anyone know how to lock Kubuntu from the command-line?
[10:34] <Ahmed\> Okay back now
[10:34] <Ahmed\> lemme see
[10:35] <Ahmed\> iconmefisto: Thanks :)
[11:08] <Ahmed\> Hello, How do i use airhack :)
[11:14] <Ahmed\> ! how to use airhack
[11:16] <gottto> !aircrack
[11:17] <Ahmed\> gotta
[11:17] <Ahmed\> please help me how do i crack into wifi i heard about ubuntu is the only source can do it i mean if so how really i downloaded airchack and whats aircrack ?
[11:17] <gottto> there's nothing on the bot about it
[11:18] <Ahmed\> okay but you can help me on that :)
[11:19] <gottto> http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/backtrack-videos/1656-%5Bvideo%5D-how-crack-wpa-wpa2-aircrack-ng-airolib-ng.html
[11:19] <gottto> Ahmed\: ^^
[11:19] <Ahmed\> yeah :) lemme see
[11:19] <Ahmed\> does it really WORKS ?
[11:20] <Ahmed\> the file doesnt found when i click on download aircrack
[11:29] <gottto> Ahmed\: where did you click?
[11:30] <Ahmed\> i am here
[11:30] <gottto> http://lpilinux.com/how-to-install-aircrack-ng-in-ubuntu.html try this Ahmed\
[11:30] <Ahmed\> i mean how do i start
[11:30] <Ahmed\> okay :)
[11:30] <Ahmed\> This helps downloading aircrack wait a minute :)
[11:32] <Ahmed\> okay i have done that
[11:32] <Ahmed\> now what
[11:32] <Ahmed\> second link
[11:34] <gottto> look in the menu under network
[11:35] <gottto> or internet
[11:35] <Ahmed\> i already had that
[11:35] <Ahmed\> installed
[11:35] <Ahmed\> now ?
[11:35] <Perun_> what is the standard picture editing app for kde4?
[11:36] <gottto> Ahmed\: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wireless-internet/98025-how-use-aircrack-ng.html
[11:37] <Ahmed\> okay brb be here :0
[11:37] <Ahmed\> :)
[11:38] <gottto> Ahmed\: this is better - http://www.adminlinux.org/2008/06/how-to-aircrack-ng-093-10-rc1.html
[11:40] <gottto> Perun_: maybe digikam - I always use the gimp
[11:47] <Ahmed\> back
[11:47] <Ahmed\> man i mean isn't a easy way step by step :)
[11:50] <Ahmed\> DOes it works on a wireless adopter ?
[11:55] <gottto> Ahmed\: no idea - does the app have a help menu?
[11:56] <Ahmed\> no well i have no idea :)
[12:14] <Ahmed\> how do i download directory for ubuntu
[12:14] <Ahmed\> and what is it anyway ?
[13:24] <szemil> haho
[13:24] <szemil> haho
[13:25] <szemil> haho
[13:25] <noaXess> !backup
[13:28] <noaXess> !cloning
[13:29] <gottto> noaXess: better if you do   /msg ubottu !cloning
[13:30] <gringo> yooo
[13:35] <Ahmed\> hi
[13:35] <Ahmed\> i have downloaded firefox 3.6 from the site and its in bz2
[13:35] <Ahmed\> HOW DO I install :)
[13:36] <telecentro_> ou
[13:36] <Ahmed\> ?
[13:37] <Ahmed\> HELLO ?
[13:38] <gringo> bjr
[13:38] <Ahmed\> ANyone here ?
[13:38] <gottto> Ahmed\: tar xjvf nameoffile.tar.bz2
[13:39] <Ahmed\> so like
[13:39] <Ahmed\> tar firefox-3.6.2
[13:39] <gottto> Ahmed\: then you have to compile it...
[13:39] <Ahmed\> ?
[13:39] <Ahmed\> how really
[13:39] <gottto> !compile > Ahmed\
[13:40] <Ahmed\> isn't a easy way i can extract and install ?
[13:41] <Ahmed\> i should use synaptic :) isnt easy ?
[13:41] <Ahmed\> gotto: does aircrack works on wireless adopters ?
[13:43] <gottto> Ahmed\: like I said before I don't know - and stick to what's in the repos if you don't want to compile stuff :)
[13:45] <Ahmed\> umm
[15:09] <Netronix_> hello !
[15:14] <arch0njw> !hi | Netronix_
[15:14] <arch0njw> !ask
[15:14] <Netronix_> thank you very much :)
[15:15] <Netronix_> the same in french does exist ?
[15:15] <Netronix_> #kubuntu-fr
[15:25] <James147> !fr | Netronix_
[15:26] <Netronix_> thank you !
[15:26] <Netronix_> it's better now
[15:43] <bigbrovar> is anyone using Kontact calendar, I am using it for the first time and it is just freezing on me :S
[16:08] <basy> hi, i am looking for tool that can capture video of my jobs on desktop ....
[16:11] <twoten_> I use download helper in firefox, it can grab and convert all at the same time!
[16:13] <James147> !info kdenlive | basy
[16:14] <basy> thanks
[16:15] <twoten_> the video editor in blender is excellent as well
[16:28] <sithlord48> video editor in blender .. does it work for any video ?
[16:34] <rmrfslash> the VPN doesn't work through knetworkmanager
[16:34] <rmrfslash> apparently
[16:35] <rmrfslash> I click on the VPN icon and nada happens
[16:35] <rmrfslash> booo knm
[16:36] <rmrfslash> anf vpnc stinks
[16:36] <rmrfslash> messes up /etc/resolv.conf
[16:36] <rmrfslash> so I had to write a script to clean up after it
[16:36] <James147> rmrfslash: I remember a while ago you could get it to work... you just couldent set them up
[16:37] <rmrfslash> so now it's the opposite... awesome
[16:37] <rmrfslash> I set one up just fine
[16:37] <rmrfslash> but I can't connect
[16:37] <James147> rmrfslash: I think I got it to work ages ago (although that was along time ago) by useing gnome-network-manager to set it up
[16:37] <James147> rmrfslash: :S
[16:39] <rmrfslash> yeah, it's a mess
[16:39] <rmrfslash> kde used to have a nice plasmoid network manager thing
[16:39] <rmrfslash> that hit the sh*tter
[16:40] <James147> rmrfslash: they broak that a while ago :S
[16:40] <rmrfslash> I know
[16:40] <rmrfslash> I liked the message I got when I clicked on it
[16:41] <rmrfslash> it was like "this thing is broke. if you use it you will mess everything up" or somethign to that effect
[16:41] <rmrfslash> yet they left it in the os
[16:41] <rmrfslash> recently i.e. 9.10 they actually remove it
[16:42] <rmrfslash> ohhh you gotta love it
[16:42] <James147> rmrfslash: it was broken in one of the updates I think... not sure if packages can be removed after the version is realeased, so i think they replaced it with a dummy plasmoid
[16:43] <rmrfslash> wow I just got a crapload of updates
[16:43] <rmrfslash> kde ones
[16:43] <rmrfslash> oh it's 4.4.2
[16:44] <rmrfslash> cool!
[16:44] <rmrfslash> ::: installing without hesitation :::
[16:44] <James147> rmrfslash:  :D had them yesterday
[16:44] <rmrfslash> \me wondering if I will get any work done after this upgrade
[16:44] <rmrfslash> woops
[16:44]  * rmrfslash 
[16:44] <FloodBotK3> rmrfslash: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:44] <rmrfslash> leave me alone floodbot
[16:45] <rmrfslash> i am flooding like a mofo though
[16:45] <James147> rmrfslash: heh, seems FloodBotK3 is being touchy today :)
[16:45] <rmrfslash> brb
[16:45] <rmrfslash> hopefully
[16:45] <phitoo> Hello all! Is there a way to get rid of the timeout dialogs that pop up when all I want is shutdown ASAP?
[16:46] <James147> phitoo: I think so, one sexc
[16:46] <phitoo> james147: sorry! I don't understand...
[16:47] <James147> phitoo: cant remember where the options is, give em a sec to find it :)
[16:53] <_1x2_> help
[16:54] <James147> !help | _1x2_
[16:54] <_1x2_> The following packages have been kept back:
[16:54] <_1x2_>   python-kde4
[17:01] <jhutchins> phitoo: How are you shutting down now and what is giving you timout dialog boxes?
[17:03] <James147> phitoo: sware there use to be a "prompt logout dialog" option or similar... but i cant find it anywhere (kde 4.4.2)... Could it have been removed, if I even remember correctly :S
[17:05] <James147> phitoo: lol, now I find it System settings -> Advanced -> session manager -> "Confirm logout" or "Offer shutdown options"
[17:07] <eugenio> ciao a tutti
[17:07] <jhutchins> m ,,,,,,,,
[17:08] <James147> phitoo: also see System settings -> Advanced -> Power Management -> Edit Profile -> <Profile choise> "When power button if pressed" and "when sleep button is pressed" << they can be set to not offer options as well
[17:08] <eugenio> avrei bisogno di sapere se esiste uno script per aprire all'avvio di kubuntu progrmmi su specifici desktop virtuali
[17:10] <Kolia> eugenio: yes
[17:11] <Kolia> eugenio: right click on windows title > advanced window settings and affect it to a virtual desktop
[17:11] <eugenio> whwre  can i found it
[17:11] <Kolia> then if you don't close the windows when shutting down kubuntu, at next restart it will open at same place
[17:12] <eugenio> ok
[17:12] <eugenio> tanks very much
[17:12] <Kolia> prego
[17:13] <eugenio> ma sei italiano o inglesee
[17:13] <Kolia> francese
[17:13] <eugenio> ahahahahaah
[17:13] <Kolia> ma non si parle italiano qui
[17:13] <Kolia> sol'inglhese ;)
[17:13] <eugenio> ok ok sorry
[17:13] <Kolia> :)
[17:14] <eugenio> if i nedd help i'll contact you more
[17:14] <Kolia> no problem if i'm around at same time.
[17:14] <Kolia> now i have to go
[17:14] <Kolia> ciao
[17:14] <eugenio> ciao e grazieeeeeeeeeee
[17:20] <Nafri> is there any msn client for linux that supports audio/video chat at the moment?
[17:29] <phitoo> jhutchins: to shutdown I use the menu. Click on launcher, click on leave, click on Shutdown (or logout or restart).
[17:35] <phitoo> james147: Thanks for the tip. Offer shutdown options seem to limit me to the logout out. I'll try the logout option now so I'll be off. Got to go anyway. Thanks for the help. Ciao!
[17:42] <marcello__> con cosa masterizzo la iso di ubuntu?
[17:42] <tsimpson> !it
[17:44] <phitoo> james147: Worked like a charm. Thanks. Ciao!
[18:27] <KDesk> hi, how can I make the the printer applet and the bluetooth applet (both tray icons) don't start every time I login?
[18:32] <James147> KDesk: I think you have to disable bluetooth to stop the bluetooth applet :S Or you just tell the task bar to hide them :)
[18:45] <Whisky> Hello
[18:47] <Whisky> Im trying to install Kubuntu on my HP notebook with Vista. I have 4 partitions on Vista along with 20 gigs of free space that I want to install Kubuntu on. kubuntu installer is asking me if I want to install them side by side and the other option that im interested in is USE THE LARGEST CONTINUOUS FREE SPACE. If I select this, would I lose dual boot?
[18:47] <KDesk> James147: hi, I already hide them, but they are not useful if I don't have the bluetooth device and don't use printer so often. How can I disable bluetooth?
[18:47] <Whisky> and when I click INSTALL SIDE BY SIDE, I get a little moveable aero with the free space shown
[18:50] <Whisky> anyone? :(
[18:51] <BluesKaj> Whisky, don't do the sise by side , select the manual install . then choose the partition for kubuntu
[18:52] <BluesKaj> choose  / in the options when right clicking on the partition you want
[18:52] <Whisky> done. So I just click FREE SPACE ?
[18:52] <BluesKaj> no!
[18:53] <Whisky> under /dev/sda there's sda1 sda2 free space sda5 sda4
[18:53] <BluesKaj> what format is the partition you are choosing ?
[18:53] <Whisky> FREE SPACE :/
[18:53] <BluesKaj> format that partition to ext4
[18:54] <James147> KDesk: might be able to in your bios, or you can by blacklisting the bluetooth module (disabled mine by adding the line "blacklist btusb" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf  although when reading the guide online they suggested a different module that dident work for me :S
[18:54] <g6255> helllo
[18:54] <Whisky> and mount point / ?
[18:54] <g6255> pls helpme
[18:54] <g6255> mic doesn't work
[18:55] <g6255>  any one pls
[18:56] <Whisky> BluesKaj: Mount point should be / ?
[18:57] <BluesKaj> Whisky, yes
[18:57] <Whisky> okay it's sda6 now ext4 mount point / format CHECKED
[18:58] <Whisky> forward?
[18:58] <James147> KDesk: might be the hci_usb module though, thats when all the guides online suggest...
[18:58] <Whisky> I really don't want to lose my data
[18:58] <g6255> hi everyone
[18:58] <g6255> pls help me
[18:58] <BluesKaj> you won't if you install to the ext4 partition / , Whisky
[18:58] <g6255> my laptop's mic doesn't work in kubuntu
[18:59] <James147> g6255: please discribe you problem in a bit more detail (what program your useing, what mic, what version of kubuntu andthing more that might help)
[18:59] <BluesKaj> g6255, open kmix and make sure your mic ctrls are selected and turned up
[19:00] <KDesk> James147: thanks, this is odd because I don't have any bluetooth device, so, in bios there is no option, and before upgradeing to lucid it didn't started.
[19:00] <g6255> thanks james147 and BluesKaj
[19:00] <g6255> i turned them up
[19:00] <g6255> i am using kubuntu 9.04
[19:00] <Whisky> should I install boot loader?
[19:01] <James147> KDesk: just knowiced on my lucid mechine, disabled it and kbluetooth is still running :S
[19:01] <g6255> installed in asus u 80 a laptop
[19:01] <lubse> hello, my sound is not working
[19:02] <lubse> is has recognised my logictec USB headset in the mixer
[19:02] <Whisky> ahh what the hell I clicked INSTALL anyway
[19:03] <lubse> any tips?
[19:03] <g6255> james147,  the output of aplay -l
[19:03] <g6255> james174, **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[19:03] <g6255> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC269 Analog [ALC269 Analog]
[19:03] <g6255>   Subdevices: 0/1
[19:03] <g6255>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[19:03] <g6255> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 3: INTEL HDMI [INTEL HDMI]
[19:03] <FloodBotK3> g6255: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:03] <g6255>   Subdevices: 1/1
[19:04] <James147> lubse: system settings -> multimedia and set the device prefence order
[19:06] <lubse> up is highest?
[19:06] <g6255> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[19:06] <g6255> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC269 Analog [ALC269 Analog]
[19:06] <g6255>   Subdevices: 0/1
[19:06] <g6255>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[19:06] <g6255> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 3: INTEL HDMI [INTEL HDMI]
[19:06] <FloodBotK3> g6255: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:06] <g6255>   Subdevices: 1/1
[19:06] <James147> lubse: yes
[19:06] <lubse> I get sound when I hit the test button :D
[19:06] <lubse> no sound on youtube tho D;
[19:07] <James147> lubse: there is a known problem with sound and flash :( try closing all other sound applications and trying
[19:10] <g6255> http://paste.ubuntu.com/407181/plain/
[19:11] <lubse> hmm, no luck
[19:11] <lubse> ill try and download some music file somewhere
[19:11] <g6255> BluesKaj,http://paste.ubuntu.com/407181/plain/
[19:12] <g6255> BluesKaj,the output of aplay -l
[19:12] <lubse> I have no app to play a .wav file :-/
[19:13] <lubse> how do I know if the flash player firefox plugin is installed correctly?
[19:14] <kjartan> hi im new to linux :P and can any one say how i set my linux up to play games? :P
[19:14] <James147> lubse: it works :S
[19:14] <alakoo> kjartan: what do you mean
[19:14] <James147> !info wine | kjartan
[19:14] <lubse> ye, it plays video
[19:14] <lubse> but no sound
[19:14] <alakoo> display drivers (and possibly wine)
[19:15] <James147> kjartan: if you want windows games that is
[19:15] <James147> lubse: try purging and reinstalling flash
[19:15] <kjartan> ok but how i install and update my graphic card and wierless internett ?
[19:16] <kjartan> i mean so i can play games like WoW and css
[19:16] <CrissiD> lubse... i had the same problem
[19:16] <CrissiD> when i first switched
[19:16] <CrissiD> you have to install the restricted extras
[19:16] <lubse> how I do that?
[19:17] <CrissiD> through the ubuntu software search
[19:17] <CrissiD> type in flash
[19:17] <lubse> KpackageKit
[19:17] <lubse> 1 installed
[19:17] <lubse> 8 available
[19:19] <CrissiD> and it should pull up one that reads...  restricted extras
[19:19] <CrissiD> or something like that
[19:19] <lubse> not there
[19:19] <James147> !restricted
[19:19] <lubse> I have the flash plugin installer installed
[19:19] <CrissiD> kubuntu restricted extras
[19:19] <CrissiD> thats what its called
[19:20] <James147> lubse: try purging that and reinstalling it (the flash)
[19:20] <lubse> its a firefox plugin
[19:20] <lubse> not a package
[19:20] <lubse> I'm not sure what is pruge
[19:20] <lubse> purge*
[19:21] <James147> lubse: purge removes the config files as well (need to use aptitude or apt-get from terminal) -> sudo aptitude purge <packagename>
[19:22] <lubse> yes, but since its a firefox plugin
[19:22] <lubse> I can't do this
[19:22] <lubse> I never installed any package
[19:26] <g6255> hello
[19:26] <g6255> anyone
[19:26] <g6255> here
[19:28] <proj3k7> Wow, What a great Distro, I am newer to linux and are trying KUbuntu for the first time and love it.
[19:29] <kjartan> is there a way to get wireles internet card working in kubuntu?
[19:29] <BluesKaj> kjartan, which wifi card ?
[19:29] <kjartan> hm what you mean ? :P im on my portable pc
[19:29] <proj3k7> I once got a Wireless mini-pci card working with ubuntu.
[19:30] <proj3k7> OpenWRT is a great site to get started.
[19:31] <kjartan> how do i know what my wifi card is ?
[19:31] <proj3k7> It helped me get two different cards up and working.
[19:31] <BluesKaj> proj3k7, lspci , look for inetcontroller or some such
[19:31] <jovis> kjartan: lspci
[19:32] <lubse> I'm at this website, I wish to get the .apt file
[19:32] <proj3k7> Mine are working fine right now but Ill keep that in mind for sure.
[19:32] <lubse> but firefox refuses to download since .apt is not associated with any programs
[19:32] <Whisky> BluesKaj: I have Kubuntu installed and I scanned my network and connected to my WiFi network but I can't browse the internet. Why?
[19:33] <lubse> how do I associate .apt with the proper program (probably KPackageKit)
[19:33] <lubse> ?
[19:33] <proj3k7> It shouldnt need to be associated to downlaod though.
[19:33] <kjartan> how to type in red?
[19:33] <kjartan> 08:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
[19:33] <jovis> kjartan: like this
[19:34] <kjartan> yea
[19:34] <BluesKaj> Whisky, in the terminal : ping google.com
[19:35] <BluesKaj> !pm | kjartan
[19:36] <kjartan> !pm BluesKaj like this?
[19:38] <BluesKaj> kjartan, I prefer not to be pm'd ...the questions asked can be answered by ppl who may know the am=nswer when thepm's ppl may not know
[19:38] <kjartan> ok
[19:39] <jovis> what is !pm supposed to be
[19:39] <jovis> it's /query
[19:39] <kjartan> is there an update cmd for graphic card and wifi card?
[19:40] <BluesKaj> kjartan, have you tried connecting with network manager ?
[19:41] <James147> jovis: !pm gets ubottu to respond with the above message ^^
[19:41] <James147> kjartan: jockey-kde will help install/update proprity drivers
[19:41] <jovis> yeah but its tyaslking about PMs, the real command is /query
[19:42] <James147> jovis: that is a form of pm ^^
[19:43] <BluesKaj> pm=privatemessage =Open Query
[19:44] <jovis> yeah all im saying is pm wouldnt be obvious to an irc newbie as a /query command
[19:45] <BluesKaj> well, let's not get hung up on it...that's the first time someone didn't know what pm meant , that I've seen here for many yrs
[19:48] <SJrX> For some reason I have two volume controls in my system tray, but only of them does anything, the other one just sits there. I've tried rebooting but nothing. It seems that there is only one kmix process and killing it, removes both.
[19:49] <SJrX> sorry it only wipes one of them
[19:49] <SJrX> the other is just sitting there
[19:50] <alakoo> restarting system tray might work
[19:52] <SJrX> no I've already restarted a billion times
[19:52] <SJrX> actually probably more like 3.2*10^5 times
[20:17] <zus> with the dolphin file manager is there a way i can column the folders, with home and a mounted HDD? to drag items to than have to go back in home?
[20:18] <generaldisarray> hey all
[20:19] <gottto> zus: what you want is a dual-paned file manager - dolphin isn't one - try midnight commander - it's in the repos
[20:20] <zus> gottto,  thank you. would konqueror work also?
[20:20] <generaldisarray> so I recently switched from ubuntu to kubuntu, in ubuntu i was able to run kde programs, can I run gnome programs under kubuntu or does it depend on the program?
[20:21] <zus> never even looked at konqueror, yet so im asking.
[20:21] <gottto> zus: no - konq is single paned as well :)
[20:21] <zus> thanks.
[20:21] <htrejh_> generaldisarray: ofc you can
[20:21] <gottto> np
[20:21] <generaldisarray> glorious
[20:22] <iconmefisto> dolphin can have 2 panes. konqueror can be split into even more panes
[20:22] <James147> zus: you can have two panes in dolhpin... (view -> split)
[20:22] <zus> generaldisarray,  i found that most of my ubuntu programs i used were ktorrent k9copy amorok....so i switched like a week ago
[20:22] <htrejh_> generaldisarray: when you start for example a gnome program on kde, it will load the gnome libs, but you can run it anyway
[20:23] <generaldisarray> well what happened was when it updated to the newest kernel ubuntu wouldnt start, and so i decided to try kubuntu cuz i liked the look of kde better anyway
[20:23] <generaldisarray> then i realized i could just uninstall the newest kernel
[20:23] <generaldisarray> lol
[20:23] <generaldisarray> thanks for your answers btw
[20:24] <kjartan> need sery help ..... my startbar dissapeared ;S how do i get it back?
[20:24] <James147> kjartan: right click the panel -> add widgets
[20:24] <kjartan> and then? :P
[20:25] <James147> kjartan: drag "application launcher" back
[20:26] <James147> kjartan: can be a bit finiky with its placment :S (can rearrange after with right click -> panel settings | drag the widgets around while the settings is open)
[20:26] <kjartan> didnt work and it all started with all items going to the left (maybe i draged them there) i wanted it back to normal but didnt work then i tried to close activity bare or something like that and it is gone
[20:27] <zus> James147,  thats the ticket... thanks exactly what i needed...this is the reason i switched to kubuntu (column worked for a few things but...)
[20:28] <James147> kjartan: did the panel disapear?
[20:28] <kjartan> yes
[20:28] <James147> kjartan: right click teh desktop -> add panel
[20:29] <kjartan> yea it just came an small box in the left corner c
[20:29] <James147> kjartan: rightclick it -> panel settings -> more settings | maximise panel
[20:30] <kjartan> yea but it is still empty :(
[20:30] <James147> kjartan: then you can right click -> add widgets and drag tehm one by one back (there is a way to reset the entire desktop if you want)
[20:30] <kjartan> how do i reset the whole thing? :D
[20:31] <James147> kjartan: to reset all widgets positions and backgrouds that is
[20:31] <kjartan> how do i do that? :P
[20:31] <James147> kjartan: remove plasma* from ~/.kde/share/config
[20:32] <kjartan> ?
[20:32] <James147> kjartan: (plasma* being all files that begin with plasma)
[20:32] <kjartan> what u mean plasma?
[20:32] <James147> kjartan: plasma is what the workspace is called
[20:32] <kjartan> aah
[20:32] <James147> kjartan: the desktop the panel are all part of plasma
[20:33] <kjartan> and what to type to reset it?
[20:33] <James147> kjartan: remove the config files that start in plasma will reset it to the defaults (will need to log out and back in)
[20:33] <James147> kjartan: just delete or rename them
[20:33] <kjartan> but where do i find them?
[20:34] <genii> ~/.kde/share/config/     probably
[20:34] <James147> kjartan: ~/.kde/share/config  (~/ mean your home ie /home/USERNAME) (.kde is a hidden folder alt+. to show hidden folders in dolphin, or jsut type its address)
[20:37] <kjartan> and i just delete the .config folder?
[20:37] <lalalol> what is THE best singleplayer tetris clone for kde? so no website, an application
[20:38] <zus> ya can also click view and click show hidden folders.. least i can (have it set atm)
[20:38] <generaldisarray> so do the programs made for the gnome environment load slower in KDE bc it needs to load the libs?
[20:38] <James147> kjartan: No... unless you want to reset ALL your kde programs
[20:38] <genii> kjartan: No, the specific file inside that folder
[20:38] <kjartan> what u mean by kde programs?
[20:38] <James147> kjartan: .config or .kde/share/config?
[20:39] <James147> kjartan: .config will contain config files for some applications but not have the files you want
[20:39] <kjartan> what was the name of the file i need  to delete?
[20:39] <kjartan> there are many plasma files
[20:39] <alonea> so, someone a few days ago said that I didn't need to ndiswrapper my drivers and I tried installing some generic driver thing that was in the package manager, but they didn't seem to do anything and he dissapeared.
[20:40] <James147> kjartan: easiest way would be to run from terminal this "rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*" (without quotes)
[20:40] <genii> generaldisarray: Basically thats the idea, yeah
[20:40] <James147> kjartan: remove anything starting with plasma
[20:40] <alonea> I have a new netbook with an Atheros card. the ndiswrapped drivers are really buggy and I get DC'd a lot when I use wpa2
[20:40] <lalalol> what is THE best singleplayer tetris clone for kde? so no website, an application
[20:41] <kjartan> rm: cannot remove `/home/kjartan/.kde/share/config/plasma': No such file or directory
[20:41] <kjartan> in terminal
[20:41] <genii> !best | lalalol
[20:41] <lalalol> thx genii
[20:41] <James147> lalalol: the kde tetris game is kblocks    but see the above about "best" :) ^^
[20:42] <iconmefisto> kjartan: did you have the * at the end? it should be plasma*
[20:42] <lalalol> kblocks, ill try it out, thx James147
[20:42] <alonea> this is the card that it lists under lspci: Atheros Communications Inc. Device 002c (rev 01)
[20:43] <slow-motion> hi
[20:43] <kjartan> ye first time
[20:43] <kjartan> should i try restart my comp?=
[20:43] <James147> kjartan: no, just logout and back in
[20:44] <haros> I have somehow managed to lose the fn keys that takes wifi up and down, anybody able to help?
[20:44] <kjartan> ok brb
[20:44] <zus> ok just to be clear... is there a Kubuntu-bugs or do i report to ubuntu-bugs?
[20:44] <zus> and do i still use launchpad for  bugs stuffs?
[20:45] <whisky> WiFi on my Kubuntu is EXTREMELY slow. Help :(
[20:46] <alonea> but yeah, the wifi a lot of times refuses to connect or it will connect for a while and then DC and refuse to connect again unless I restart my computer.
[20:46] <iconmefisto> !wifi
[20:46] <kjartan> thx james147 it worked :D
[20:48] <kjartan> but how to install games from cd like WoW?
[20:48] <alonea> iconmefisto: this card is a newer model I think and if I remember it just says to use ndiswrapper
[20:49] <kjartan> when i click  installer.exe in the cd the wine mark starts jumping but notthing happends?
[20:49] <James147> !info wine | kjartan
[20:50] <kjartan> event not found
[20:50] <alonea> ok, so the thing I had installed was: linux-backports-modules-karmic-generic
[20:50] <James147> kjartan: might want to check out http://www.winehq.org/
[20:51] <James147> kjartan: http://www.playonlinux.com/en/ is a nice front end for wine as well (free)
[20:53] <peto> hi all
[20:54] <peto> someone from slovakia?..
[20:54] <pol> I downloaded the kubuntu-desktop-amd64 version (hoping it will run on intel too), but the file is 712Mb. My CDBurnerXP soft (win) doesn't want to burn it to a disk... isn't it meant to fit on a 700Mb disk ?
[20:54] <kjartan> there is no packages for kubuntu
[20:54] <kjartan> and dont i need wine to have playonlinux=
[20:54] <kjartan> ? :P
[20:54] <peto> where can i find slovak IRC??...pls
[20:56] <peto> haloooooo
[20:56] <James147> kjartan: see the ubuntu package... it works for kubuntu
[20:58] <James147> pol: not sure what version you downloaded, but the one at kubuntu.org is only 695.6 mb... (kubuntu 9.10)
[20:58] <kjartan> System->Administration->Software Sources how do i get there ? where is system? xD :P
[20:59] <James147> kjartan: use kpackagekit instead
[21:00] <James147> kjartan: kpackagekit -> settings -> Editsoftware sources
[21:00] <James147> kjartan: then Other software -> add
[21:01] <kjartan> ok
[21:02] <kjartan> how do i know if i have karmic or jaunty
[21:02] <pol> James147, I downloaded the file that is called kubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso. here it's listed as 712Mb
[21:02] <James147> pol: do you have a link to where you dled it from?
[21:02] <genii> kjartan: uname -a
[21:03] <genii> kjartan: Apologies: lsb_release -a
[21:03] <pol> James147, I got it from kubuntu.org
[21:03] <James147> kjartan: cat /etc/issue     9.10 is karmic 9.04 is jaunty
[21:03] <pol> James147, http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[21:04] <pol> choose 9.1 as version, and 64-bit as other choice
[21:04] <kjartan> whats the difference?
[21:04] <James147> pol: wieard, i just did that and its downloading a 695.6 mb file :S
[21:05] <pol> i'm downloading from another location now - I'll see
[21:05] <pol> I chose BelNet first ... now trying an other one
[21:05] <pol> seems to be smaller indeed
[21:05] <pol> very strange
[21:05] <James147> pol: you dident chose the netbook eddition did you?
[21:05] <pol> no, it said "desktop" ... same filename as the current one
[21:06] <pol> well, at last doesn't matter if I get a smaller version now
[21:06] <James147> pol:  :)
[21:07] <James147> pol: you can also install it from usb if you want, look up unetbootin :) (that is if your comp supports usb booting, most mordernish ones do)
[21:07] <pol> I haven't used linux on the desktop for a couple of years (6?) - KDE still the most userfriendly one?
[21:07] <James147> pol: I think so :) gnome is quite good as well, but lacks some options
[21:07] <pol> like ?
[21:08] <James147> pol: you can try both if you want (install ubuntu-desktop to install gnome after you have installed kubntu)
[21:08] <pol> I had the ubuntu live cd running for a couple of mins, didn't like that the menu was on top of the screen. probably this is cutomisable, but still ...
[21:09] <WOFall> Anyone want to tell me how to adjust colour (temperature), contrast, gamma? :)
[21:09] <WOFall> actually at the moment i'm doing the gamma with x-gamma as a startup script :/ It's the colour temperature that's most urgent...
[21:10] <James147> WOFall: System settings -> Display -> Gamma
[21:10] <WOFall> em, really? I'd have thought i'd have noticed :/
[21:10] <James147> WOFall: if you have nvida graphics then nvidia-settings probally could as well
[21:10] <kjartan> how to uinstall both wine and playonlinux?
[21:11] <zus> hmm well, i thought i turned off the screen saver and turn monitor off when idle,... why is this still happening? cant i just walk away for 20 minutes and not come to a black screen?
[21:11] <James147> WOFall: system settings has a slider for gamma red green and blue ^^
[21:11] <WOFall> well my Display section is pretty empty (HP Laptop?) appart from Size&Orientation and MultipleMonitors
[21:11] <James147> kjartan: uninstall?
[21:11] <genii> !info argyll
[21:12] <iconmefisto> James147: I haven't seen those display settings since kde3.5
[21:12] <James147> WOFall: running kde 4.4.2... what version are you on?
[21:12] <WOFall> I tried some agryll based program but it needed a calibrator i think :/ I'll read into Agryll more though
[21:13] <zus> i got kde4.,4 now.
[21:13] <WOFall> um, 4.4.1? I'm not sure if it updated last night or not... (10.4 beta)
[21:13] <James147> WOFall: dont know why you dont have them, I do :S... what graphics card do you nhave?
[21:13] <WOFall> 4.4.2 actually :) not that that really helps ;/
[21:13] <genii> WOFall: There is also lcms
[21:14] <WOFall> how can i tell which graphics card i have? :p
[21:14] <kjartan> ye uinstall think ive done something wrong .... installed other than karmic
[21:14] <kjartan> think thats why it dont work
[21:14] <James147> WOFall: lspci should tell you (VGA controller or something
[21:16] <WOFall> um, Intel Corp Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) ?
[21:17] <James147> WOFall: huh... my laptop (also intel) dosn't have thouse settings... might be a nvidia thing :S
[21:18] <WOFall> q
[21:19] <WOFall> balls, sorry I always type on my PC keyboard when I mean to type on the laptop -.-
[21:20] <kjartan> but how to uinstall wine and playonlinux ???
[21:20] <James147> kjartan: uninstall? sudo aptitude purge wine playonlinux
[21:21] <peto> how can i add IRC ?? pls
[21:21] <WOFall> peto, you're using IRC at the moment...
[21:21] <peto> i know
[21:22] <peto> but when i want german kubuntu or slovak ??
[21:22] <gottto> !de
[21:23] <James147> peto: to join another channel? use /join #chanelname
[21:23] <kjartan> dont i get wine if i type sudo apt-get install wine
[21:23] <peto> ahaaa...thx :)
[21:24] <James147> kjartan: that will install wine, yes.
[21:25] <kjartan> with no complications? and it works 100% same as doing it in wineHQ.com?
[21:26] <James147> kjartan: the wine version in the repos is old... might not work for the game you want (might work better) if you added the ppa on windhq.org then installing wine will install the latest "development" version that may work from more games
[21:27] <kjartan> but do i need wine if i have play on linux?
[21:28] <James147> kjartan: playonlinux (pol) uses wine (it will help in configuing it) i think it can dl custem versions but i think it uses the system version by default
[21:31] <WOFall> ok then so another thing. When i generate an xorg.conf file, should i be able to use that file without modification?
[21:32] <James147> WOFall: you should
[21:32] <lubse> hello where do I change the behaviour of the K > "leave" > shutdown buttons
[21:32] <lubse> I want a button to shutdown
[21:32] <lubse> I don't need all the rest
[21:32] <lubse> at least I don't want to go to the menu every time
[21:32] <WOFall> well, when I reboot i get a blackish screen... :/
[21:35] <generaldisarray> does anyone know where i can find a list of IRC chat commands (more specifically, is there a way I can filter the results of /list?)
[21:35] <James147> lubse: System settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager | "confirm Logout" or "offer shutdown options"  one will get rid of the popup menu, to bypass kmenu add the widget "lock/logout"
[21:37] <WOFall> generaldisarray, can you do /list *search*   ?
[21:37] <WOFall> /list is gonna depend on your client
[21:37] <generaldisarray> oh ok
[21:38] <generaldisarray> well i have quassel (it came default), do you know of any way I can give a minimum number of ppl in the chat?
[21:39] <lubse> oh, cool, ty, I missed the "advanced" tab
[21:40] <kjartan> when i try .exe in wine it says acces denied why?
[21:42] <kjartan> in wine *
[21:44] <James147> kjartan: what do you mean "try .exe in wine" (clicking on the .exe?)
[21:44] <kjartan> i mean that when i click the exe on the cd the wine mark shows on the mouse pointer and then it says acces denied
[21:47] <alanna> hello. can someone send me their /etc/apt/sources.list file? all of my repositories are 404ed
[21:49] <James147> kjartan: hmm, try deleting ~/.wine
[21:49] <kjartan> clicking
[21:49] <alanna> can someone please pastebin their sources.list file?
[21:49] <kjartan> i just deleted wine and reinstalled it from the winehq
[21:49] <zus> does anyone use drop box?,... can i use it to send things to my best friends (he's got win7) drop box account or is it just for myself and my other pc's and phone
[21:50] <iconmefisto> zus: yes you can, if you log in to the same dropbox account
[21:50] <kjartan> how do i enable 3dacceleration?
[21:50] <zus> iconmefisto,  can one have multiple dropbox accounts?
[21:51] <WOFall> probably not by the TOS, but if you use a different email yes
[21:51] <alanna> anyone? please? it'll only take a minute for you to pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:51] <iconmefisto> zus: yes, but you would have to create a different dropbox folder for each account (so they don't overwrite eachother)
[21:53] <iconmefisto> zus: also, if you want to use 2 or more simultaneously, you would have to start separate instances, so you will see separate dropbox systray icons for each account
[21:54] <WOFall> well, thanks guys :/ I'll look into argyll scripts, and probably be back here soon enough :p
[21:55] <zus> iconmefisto,  thanks saves me having to deal with windows networking and grumpy old windows users who's never heard of firefox " i dont trust that i never heard of it types"
[21:56] <iconmefisto> zus: dropbox is great for quick workarounds to many situations
[21:56] <zus> iconmefisto,  when they got a new wireless card and gave me the usb wireless.. they had trouble getting  online and  im on my box  and they was like how are you on.... i said  linux.
[21:59] <kjartan> any idea why it says access denied? when i click .exe in cd ?
[22:03] <slow-motion> n8
[22:05] <kjartan> how to enable 3Dacceleration???
[22:07] <iconmefisto> kjartan: systemsettings > desktop. can you enable desktop effects?
[22:10] <kjartan> no
[22:11] <iconmefisto> is there a graphics driver if you start Hardware Drivers?
[22:11] <kjartan> didnt work
[22:12] <kjartan> no
[22:12] <iconmefisto> hardware drivers doesn't start?
[22:12] <kjartan> it isnt installed
[22:16] <kjartan> it worked to activate now
[22:24] <pal0bre> can someone tell me how to set compiz as my default window manager ???
[22:27] <kjartan> but why is it denied to open .exe files?
[22:27] <sabayondweeb> pal0bre,  kde has its own composting manager, sure you want compiz ?
[22:28] <pal0bre> yes
[22:29] <pal0bre> sabayondweeb: yes
[22:31] <kjartan> need imba help to install wotlk from disc
[22:32] <sabayondweeb> pal0bre,  I am the wrong one to help you.  I know it can be done...I would not bother with it   kde composting is pretty good.  You will have to edit files etc... to use compiz on kde, no guarantee  will work with no errors.
[22:33] <Tm_T> sabayondweeb: no need to edit any files
[22:34] <Tm_T> palobre: install compiz-kde (or what it was) and then go to systemsettings -> default applications -> window manager
[22:34] <pal0bre> do i really have to type allways "compiz --replace" when KDE loads?
[22:35] <Tm_T> palobre: from there, choose compiz then
[22:36] <pal0bre> Tm_T: it got worse
[22:36] <pal0bre> Tm_T: the window decoration just dissapeared
[22:37] <Tm_T> pal0bre: smells like there's not all required packages installed
[22:37] <Tm_T> or something like that
[22:38] <Tm_T> what, I do not know, I don't use compiz
[22:38] <pal0bre> Tm_T: no need i fixed it
[22:39] <Tm_T> it works now as expected?
[22:40] <sabayondweeb> Tm_T, nice tip, I see I have compiz-kde available, checked my other distro  not available  :(
[22:49] <lubse> hello, my CPU fan is always in overcooling mode
[22:49] <lubse> I have an intel i7 CPU
[22:49] <lubse> where do I look for CPU speed drivers?
[22:50] <sabayondweeb> trying to fix a nic card...all the post I see is old, they say it works fine. It works fine in windows, ifconfig shows it ubuntu networkmanager will not connect. Time for wicd or any ideas?
[22:59] <sabayondweeb> Here is the lspci and ifconfig  http://pastebin.com/1Z1x15BD
[23:04] <Typos_King> ..
[23:04] <Typos_King> ifconfig shows is up and running
[23:04] <Typos_King> in the wlan0...... unless you meant the eth0
[23:05] <sabayondweeb> Typos_King,  NetworkManager will not connect   Is running wireless right now.
[23:06] <Typos_King> so, you're referring to the eth0?
[23:06] <sabayondweeb> yes eth0 is the one that will not connect
[23:07] <Typos_King> .. one sec
[23:11] <Typos_King> sabayondweeb:   it shows in the lspci....so... and it has an interface... are you behind a router?
[23:12] <ScottyK> I'm embarrased to ask, but I forgot what to type in terminal to upgrade to KDE 4.4.2???
[23:12] <sabayondweeb> Typos_King,  I have quest dsl and there wireless  modem. Is not secured and a usb wireless plugged in works fine
[23:13] <Typos_King> you're saying Qwest gave you a .... wireless modem?
[23:14] <Typos_King> for your dsl connection?
[23:14] <sabayondweeb> Typos_King,  I do have a cat 5 plugged directly into it and other os works fine.
[23:14] <Typos_King> ScottyK:     sudo apt-get upgrade PACKAGENAME;
[23:14] <sabayondweeb> is a dual boot
[23:15] <Typos_King> ScottyK:     you can get packagename from dpkg -l; or apt-cache pkgnames;
[23:15] <Typos_King> ...
[23:15] <Typos_King> hehhe
[23:15] <BluesKaj> sabayondweeb, using network manager for ethernet connection ?
[23:15] <Typos_King> I see..... I gather you're logged 'out' of the qwest network
[23:16] <ScottyK> typos - so the package name for KDE update would simply be KDE?
[23:16] <Typos_King> sabayondweeb:   using your web browser, go to -> http://192.168.0.1
[23:16] <Typos_King> do you get a page?
[23:16] <Typos_King> ScottyK:     you can get packagename from dpkg -l; or apt-cache pkgnames;
[23:17] <Typos_King> ScottyK:    dunno, could be kde4 or so
[23:17] <Typos_King> ScottyK:     try ->   dpkg -l | grep -i kde4;
[23:17] <sabayondweeb> I think that the wired connection should work as is. Typos_King  to try that will have to turn off wireless, I of course would get something now.
[23:18] <ScottyK> that was easy, "KDE" was the package name. I was trying all sorts of other combinations. wahoo thanks!!
[23:19] <Typos_King> sabayondweeb:   not sure how it 'works' in win7, I know on dsl services you have to log in their services at least once, it's done through their provided modem interfact usually using the 192.168.0.1 network address for the router
[23:19] <Typos_King> sabayondweeb:    the other thing I can think of, is it may need to have a gateway set, and doesn't have one yet
[23:19] <Typos_King> which you can do with 'route'
[23:20] <James147> ScottyK: its probally easier to do a full system upgrade - sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[23:20] <BluesKaj> sabayondweeb, trying to run wifi and ethernet simultaneously is not a good practice , it affects the router
[23:20] <James147> ScottyK: you need to enable the backports ppa to get kde 4.4.2 in karmic if you havent alredy
[23:21] <ScottyK> james - yep I'm good there. the install is proceeding, but the "full-upgrade" command I'll use next time.
[23:21] <ScottyK> or I'll just run after KDE finishes, and see what happens
[23:22] <sabayondweeb> Typos_King,  is xp on the other end.  May be worth rebooting the router and computer...I try to boot computer with no wireless connected, had to plug in a usb wireless to install...did all the updates and eth0 still wont connect.  Will reboot now.
[23:32] <sabayondweeb> Typos_King,  no joy,  I need this box to connect with wired.  hmmm
[23:33] <BluesKaj> I was about to suggest ,sabayondweeb use /etc/network/interfaces for connecting by ethernet ,
[23:34] <BluesKaj> sabayondweeb,  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[23:35] <BluesKaj> sabayondweeb, that's how i connect with ethernet on my desktop, above
[23:36] <Typos_King> sabayondweeb:    the other thing I can think of, is it may need to have a gateway set, and doesn't have one yet
[23:36] <Typos_King> sabayondweeb:   not sure how it 'works' in win7, I know on dsl services you have to log in their services at least once, it's done through their provided modem interfact usually using the 192.168.0.1 network address for the router
[23:37] <sabayondweeb> BluesKaj,  Is a great idea, I am giving this computer to a friend...I need eth0 to work with there connection and not a static ip with mine  :(
[23:38] <kjartan> any one know why the text in css is not readable (i barely can read it)
[23:38] <James147> css?
[23:39] <BluesKaj> sabayondweeb, that static ip is merely on the lan side of the router, not the ISP side
[23:39] <kjartan> counterstrike source
[23:41] <James147> kjartan: try reading http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3731 <- might have tricks to get it to work better
[23:42] <Typos_King> heheh
[23:42] <Typos_King> what ... editor?   kate?
[23:42] <Typos_King> just click on zoom in
[23:42] <Typos_King> if it's kate
[23:43] <sabayondweeb> Does #kubuntu have an awesome bot?  For example "?? wicd" would give me the commands to switch from NM to wicd.
[23:43] <James147> !info wicd
[23:44] <James147> !wicd
[23:44] <sabayondweeb> * wicd
[23:45] <James147> think thats probally as much as your gona get out of him :S
[23:46] <sabayondweeb> Thanks James147    will go search google and fix this issue   :)
[23:46] <James147> !network
[23:46] <BluesKaj> sabayondweeb, if you install wicd you have the option to run either ethernet or wifi , but it disables NM upon install
[23:47] <BluesKaj> sabayondweeb, nm is flaky anyway imo
[23:47] <James147> BluesKaj: hope it starts to get better sometime :p
[23:48] <BluesKaj> wicd is the best option imo, James147
[23:48] <sabayondweeb> BluesKaj,  I would prefer to use rc-update add wicd default && rc-update del NetworkManager   alas I am not totally debian friendly.  :(
[23:49] <BluesKaj> sabayondweeb, sudo apt-get install wicd && sudo apt-get remove network-manager
[23:51] <sabayondweeb> BluesKaj,  Thanks, running it now...May be a better term for me...Not debian house broke yet   :)
[23:53] <BluesKaj> sabayondweeb, you can run update-rc.d afterwards if you wish , but i don't think it makes much diff ...runlevels are user std on kubuntu