/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/03/31/#ubuntu-beginners.txt

alienkid10what packages do I need to play MP3, WMA, WMV, and DVDs? I am going to install without Internet at a friends and so am making a APToncd disc with a ton of packages on it00:23
pedro3005alienkid10, ubuntu-restricted-extras00:26
alienkid10can't00:26
pedro3005also libdvdcss200:26
alienkid10it installs things that need to download other things00:26
pedro3005:/00:27
alienkid10I don't have a new connection there00:27
tenachalienkid10, gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg for video like wmv00:27
alienkid10what about MP3?00:28
alienkid10ugly?00:28
tenachgstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly00:29
tenachI belive00:29
tenach*believe00:29
tenachI would suggest getting gstreamer0.10-plugins-good, bad and ugly00:29
tenachif you are making sure you can play most audo and video00:29
alienkid10will do00:30
alienkid10thanks00:30
alienkid10#ubuntu was too flooded00:30
tenachalso pedro3005 is right, libdvdcss2 will be needed for playing some dvd playback00:31
alienkid10thanks00:31
tenach*playing some dvds00:31
alienkid10thanks!00:31
tenachNo problem.00:34
shahanany one here02:13
shahanI want help related to ubuntu 9.0402:13
shahandesktop environment problem02:13
MadameTockshahan, what is the problem?02:13
slick666sure thing02:14
shahanany one here who can help me02:14
slick666lay it on us02:14
shahanMadameTock: yes02:14
shahanMadameTock: there is not panel up and down of my screen02:14
shahanits 9.0402:14
shahanMadameTock:  what can I do nwo02:14
shahannow02:14
MadameTockYou need to reset your panels02:15
shahanMadameTock: how can I do it02:15
shahanMadameTock: I have no internet connection in ubuntu right now02:16
shahanMadameTock: because my new modem is not detecting on ubuntu02:16
MadameTockpress alt+f2, and type in gnome-terminal to open your terminal02:16
MadameTockshahan, it's okay that you don't have a connection02:17
shahanMadameTock: I have tried this02:17
MadameTockOoh, resetting your panels?02:17
shahanMadameTock: when I enter in terminal I cannt write anything02:17
shahanMadameTock: because a small white cursor only lights02:18
MadameTockIs your mouse working?02:18
shahanMadameTock: if i write anything....it doesnt work02:18
shahanMadameTock: yes...mouse works02:18
MadameTockIs your mouse over the terminal?02:18
shahanMadameTock: no....I tried through alt+F3...02:19
shahanMadameTock: then a terminal starts02:19
shahanMadameTock:  I also tried through right clicking on the desktop then > create luncher02:19
MadameTockDo you click on the terminal, or just start typing?02:20
shahanMadameTock: when I press alt+f3 the full screen becomes terminal( a black screen)...I dont need to press mouse....because there mouse doesnt appear02:21
MadameTockshahan, is your desk top even starting, or are you staying in terminal?02:23
shahanMadameTock: no.....the desktop starts...I can change desktop wallpaper....can enter in pdf files which is located in my desktop...etc.02:24
shahanMadameTock: but its not possible to do any further task without panels02:24
=== mohi_away is now known as mohi1
MadameTockshahan: When you are inside the desktop, if you press alt+f2, not alt+f3, you can open your gnome-terminal by typing in its name, and from there reset your panels.02:26
shahanMadameTock: ok...wait...I am going to trying this....02:26
shahanMadameTock: hope I will get u02:27
MadameTockshahan: let me know when you have a terminal open.02:27
shahanMadameTock: hope my terminal is open...then what I will do?02:27
shahanMadameTock: as...I have a dual boot ....I have to come in XP again...: :)02:28
MadameTockOh! Well, once you get your terminal open, type in02:28
MadameTockrm -r ~/.gconf/apps/panel02:28
MadameTockThat will reset your panel. To test, just restart!02:29
shahanMadameTock: tnx02:30
=== mohi1 is now known as mohi_away
shahanMadameTock: hi02:52
shahanMadameTock: r u here?02:52
shahanMadameTock: I am back02:52
shahanMadameTock: hello02:53
MadameTockshahan: Hey, did it work?02:53
shahanMadameTock: wait Am giving u the screen shot02:54
* ZachK_ has got a pc!02:56
shahanhttp://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww145/shahan011/terminalopen.png02:57
shahanMadameTock: http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww145/shahan011/terminalopen.png02:57
shahanMadameTock:  have u seen02:58
shahanMadameTock: ?02:58
nigelbjust FYI:02:59
nigelbTopic for #ubuntu+1 is: Official Ubuntu Lucid Lynx support/discussion | GNOME 2.30 being uploaded. Packages are in-flux, so don't upgrade yet.02:59
nigelbso that could be the trouble for you02:59
shahanMadameTock: r u here?03:00
MadameTockshahan, yes, I'm trying to figure out the problem03:01
shahanMadameTock: I also tried with http://paste-it.net/public/aa6907e/03:01
shahanMadameTock: coming back withing 5 mins03:07
running_rabbit07nigelb, will that gnome be incorporated into Lucid or is it too late for that? Thanx03:08
nigelbrunning_rabbit07, I'm unsure.  have to ask one of the devs tomorrow03:09
running_rabbit07kool, thanx03:09
paultagDarkwingDuck, welcome to Planet Ubuntu03:10
paultagDarkwingDuck, :)03:10
paultagDarkwingDuck, looking good :)03:10
DarkwingDuckThanks paultag03:16
paultagDarkwingDuck, grats :)03:18
DarkwingDuck:D I'm stoked03:18
shahanMadameTock: back03:19
shahanMadameTock: r u here?03:19
MadameTockshahan: Yes, welcome back03:20
shahanMadameTock:  have u got any solution03:20
shahanMadameTock: ?03:20
MadameTockshahan: I've got something else you can try03:20
shahanMadameTock: tell me03:20
MadameTockshahan: go in to your terminal, and type the following three lines03:21
MadameTockgconftool-2 --shutdown03:21
MadameTockrm -rf .gconf/apps/panel03:21
shahan$ gconftool-2 --shutdown $ gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel $ rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel $ pkill gnome-panel03:22
MadameTockpkill gnome-panel03:22
shahanI have tried this03:22
shahanjust before 2 mins ago03:22
MadameTockshahan: That's all I know to suggest.03:22
shahan:(03:22
MadameTockshahan: I'm sorry I couldn't help resolve your problem.03:22
shahanMadameTock: can u suggest me where can I get help further?03:23
MadameTockshahan: There may be a more experienced individual in the room that can help. :)03:23
shahanooooo03:24
shahanMadameTock: please help me to find out any other guys03:24
shahanMadameTock: may I introduced with u?03:24
shahanMadameTock: where r u from?03:24
MadameTockshahan: Washington State, USA03:27
MadameTockshahan: How about yourself?03:27
shahanMadameTock: I am from BANGLADESH03:27
shahanMadameTock: what do u do?03:27
shahanMadameTock: BANGLADESH, DHAKA03:28
MadameTockibuclaw, paultag, tenach says you would know how to help with this problem.03:28
MadameTockrather, may03:28
paultagHowdy03:28
paultagHold on a second03:28
MadameTockshahan: Pleased to meet you!03:28
MadameTockOkee.03:28
paultagJust need to read back a bit :)03:28
shahanMadameTock: tnx for your kind help03:29
paultagCan you take a second and describe exactly whats going on shahan? I'll be here for a while so take your time and write in long sentiences :)03:29
shahanpaultag: hi03:30
paultagHi :)03:30
shahanpaultag: I have a gnome problem03:30
shahanpaultag: I lost my two panel of my desktop03:31
paultagshahan, take your time and explain it in nice long sentiences03:31
shahanpaultag: I dont know how03:31
paultagshahan, I'm not going anywhere, take your time03:31
shahanpaultag: ok03:31
shahanI lost my two panels of my desktop...I dont know how...now I want to get it back. Is there any solution to u about how can I get it...I have tried a lot of procedures....03:32
shahanlike03:32
shahanpaultag: http://paste-it.net/public/v32b4a8/03:33
paultagOK03:33
paultaglet me think shahan03:33
shahanpaultag: ok03:33
shahanpaultag: ask me if u want more info.03:34
paultagshahan, could you try: `nohup gnome-panel &` ?03:34
shahanno03:34
paultagshahan, no in what way?03:34
paultagshahan, no in that you can't try it or no as in it did not do anything?03:35
shahanI didnt tried this03:35
paultagshahan, I asked if you could try that for me03:35
shahanpaultag: ok...I am going to try this in ubuntu ...for this I have to restart the PC03:35
shahannohup gnome-panel &03:35
shahanpaultag:03:36
paultagshahan, I'll be here03:36
shahanpaultag: nohup gnome-panel &03:36
paultagshahan, yes :)03:36
shahanpaultag: ok03:36
paultagshahan, and be sure to log messages03:36
shahanpaultag: http://paste-it.net/public/k02dd67/03:37
shahanpaultag: I also tried this03:37
shahanlet it check....I am coming back03:37
paultagshahan, add a sudo before that last command03:37
paultagshahan, but OK03:37
shahanpaultag: sudo nohup gnome-panel &03:38
shahanpaultag: ok?03:38
paultagno03:38
paultagshahan, on the apt-get -f install03:38
paultagshahan, gnome-panel needs to run as you03:38
shahanpaultag: o yes03:38
paultagkk03:38
shahancoming back03:38
paultagsure thing, tyt03:38
running_rabbit07paultag, if you don't mind, what does "nohup gnome-panel &" do03:42
paultagrunning_rabbit07, sure thing :)03:42
paultagrunning_rabbit07, nohup will intercept all hangup calls to the shell ( as he will most likely close it after it works, if it works ), gnome-panel ( the actual panel for GNOME ), and & to fork it to the background of bash03:43
paultagrunning_rabbit07, if that works, gnome-panel is not starting up. If it does nothing there is a configuration issue03:43
paultaghowdy shahan03:44
shahanpaultag: hi03:44
paultagshahan, OK, so is it a conf issue or a startup issue?03:44
paultagdo let us know!03:44
running_rabbit07thanx for explaining that, paultag03:44
paultagrunning_rabbit07, sure thing03:44
shahanpaultag: http://paste-it.net/public/yfa8c18/03:45
shahanpaultag: I have no idea about conf issue or startup issue03:45
paultagYippie!03:45
paultagshahan, So, you don't seem to have the GNOME panel installed :)03:46
paultagshahan, sudo apt-get install gnome-panel03:46
shahanpaultag: will it required internet?03:46
paultagSo, it's not starting because it's not installed, silly03:46
paultagshahan, yis03:46
shahanpaultag: I have no internet03:46
paultagshahan, you can start the network by hand03:46
paultagshahan, why not?03:46
shahanpaultag: in ubuntu....03:46
paultagshahan, how are you here03:46
paultagshahan, nm-applet03:46
paultagshahan, run that command03:47
shahanpaultag: as my new modem doesnt work there in ubuntu03:47
paultagAhha03:47
shahanpaultag: what is the size of gnome-panel?03:47
paultagHold on a sec03:47
paultagUncompressed Size: 1,229k03:49
shahanpaultag: I have a mobile phone to connect internet...which I can use....but as it takes 1KB=0.02 Tk. (1Tk. is 70 $) I have to think about it03:50
shahanpaultag: http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww145/shahan011/terminalopen.png03:50
shahanlet it check03:50
paultagshahan, try reinstalling from the CD03:50
running_rabbit07shahan, what modem do you have? dial-up or dsl03:50
shahanpaultag: is it not gnome background03:51
shahan?03:51
paultagshahan, for what?03:51
paultagthe GNOME background is nautilus03:51
shahanpaultag: ok...let me check03:51
shahanrunning_rabbit07: WiFi modem03:51
running_rabbit07k03:51
paultagshahan, try reinstalling from the CD03:52
shahanpaultag: I have problem on my HDD03:52
paultagshahan, if it's so bad that you can't install, then you can't expect the already installed OS to behave well03:52
shahanpaultag: for this I am unable to reinstall it...when partition manager comes....its start shouting......and hand03:53
shahanand hang03:53
shahanrunning_rabbit07: can u help me to be connected03:53
shahanrunning_rabbit07: have u any idea?03:53
running_rabbit07shahan, what have you tried for getting it connected?03:54
shahanrunning_rabbit07: http://paste-it.net/public/xc46a64/03:54
shahanrunning_rabbit07: my previous connection worked as plug and play03:55
shahanrunning_rabbit07: but the new one dont work as like previous03:55
shahanrunning_rabbit07: when I conected the USB of my previous modem in ubuntu ...its got connected03:55
shahanrunning_rabbit07: but new one doesn't03:56
running_rabbit07shahan, is it the ralink technology?03:56
shahanrunning_rabbit07: yes03:56
shahanrunning_rabbit07: as its says http://paste-it.net/public/xc46a64/03:57
shahanrunning_rabbit07: help me ...if you can...coming back within 5 mins03:58
running_rabbit07$70 for one download, ouch04:04
mnewtonhello folks04:07
running_rabbit07hi04:07
nhandlerHello mnewton04:08
mnewton=) 'ello - say what's the command for whois again?04:08
nhandlermnewton: /whois04:09
mnewtoni tried that, i says "Unknown command; see /help for the available commands"04:09
mnewtoni'm using empathy atm04:09
shahanpaultag: hi04:09
nhandlermnewton: empathy is a terrible irc client04:09
mnewtonXD04:09
paultaghey shahan04:09
paultaghey mnewton, kline much?04:09
paultagHA!04:10
shahanpaultag: is there any way to install gnome-panel from CD04:10
paultagmnewton, how's tricks?04:10
* nhandler was wondering who would remember mnewton04:10
mnewtonXD you still remember me i see04:10
paultagnhandler, can you use the live cd as a offline repo?04:10
paultagmnewton, I never forget04:10
paultagnhandler, never test my memory ;)04:10
shahanpaultag: no04:10
shahanpaultag: I never tried this04:10
nhandlerpaultag: Yeah. It includes several packages that are not actually installed on the live cd for that purpose04:10
paultagshahan, no what?04:10
paultagnhandler, thought so. shahan here has somehow managed to remove gnome-panel from his install04:11
nhandlerpaultag: In the System Sources app, it has a section for adding a live cd04:11
paultagAh, ty nhandler04:11
mnewtonany way to make a global limit on cpu usage?04:11
paultagshahan, give that a go04:11
paultagmnewton, try openvz or lxc04:11
nhandlermnewton: There is, but I can't remember how04:11
mnewtonit's going 100% and my computer is getting hot04:11
paultagmnewton, run it with nice?04:11
nhandlerpaultag: I thought there was an easier method for that.04:11
paultagnhandler, there is the nice command to change it's priority04:12
mnewtontried that, its still not doing too much04:12
mnewtonif i make the nice too large the program stops responding, but the cpu still stays the same04:12
shahanpaultag: I hve live desktop and a alternat cd also04:12
paultagshahan, desktop04:12
running_rabbit07shahan, do you know how gnome-panel was uninstalled by any chance?04:12
paultagrunning_rabbit07, I did :)04:13
shahanrunning_rabbit07: yes.....I know something04:13
shahanwait04:13
paultagalthough, can you confirm this shahan? `dpkg -l | grep gnome-panel`04:13
running_rabbit07lol04:13
shahanpaultag: sure04:13
shahanwait04:13
running_rabbit07if you didn't uninstall completely, then the package is still in the apt folder meaning synaptic should be able to find it04:14
paultagrunning_rabbit07, good call!04:14
running_rabbit07if he can surf folders, gdebi will install it04:15
paultagOh wait04:15
shahanrunning_rabbit07: once I run     sudo apt-get remove gshutdown ntfs-config scim-m17n startupmanager soundconverter sysinfo tzdata vlc && sudo apt-get autoremove04:15
paultagwill it cache it if it installed from the live cd?04:15
shahanafter this I lost my panels.....    :(04:16
shahanpaultag:     sudo apt-get remove gshutdown ntfs-config scim-m17n startupmanager soundconverter sysinfo vlc && sudo apt-get autoremove04:17
paultagI saw that04:17
shahanpaultag: once I run this command ...after this the problem created04:17
paultagshahan, look, just reinstall the distro off the CD or install from the network, not too many other ways around it :)04:18
shahanpaultag: I said u first .... there is a problem on my HDD....I cannt reinstall it04:18
paultagshahan, I'd suggest fixing the HD issue04:19
shahanpaultag: may be the problem of UBUNTU04:19
paultagshahan, I doubt it.04:19
paultagshahan, if your HD has issues you can't expect it to be reliable04:19
shahanpaultag: I can install XP easily04:19
paultagshahan, please do, then04:19
paultagshahan, I'm here to help, but if you want to install XP, be my guest. I don't care, I have no stake in your computer04:19
shahanpaultag: I hve to repair it anyhow04:19
paultagshahan, then get a new Hard Drive04:19
paultagshahan, run a smart test on it04:20
paultagshahan, if it's bad, get a new drive04:20
paultagshahan, if it's good, install XP04:20
shahanpaultag: sorry!!! I dont want to use XP ... For this I am trying to repair my lovely UBUNTU04:20
shahanpaultag: I hate XP04:20
shahanpaultag: but I have no other way to use my PC04:20
paultagshahan, OK. then don't say things that try and make me upset. It will do nothing except make me want to leave. This is my freetime, I am not paid to help you04:20
shahanpaultag: yes...I know04:21
shahanso....04:21
paultagshahan, So, you have three options. 1) Get a new HD. 2) Use the Live CD to install the package ( as nhandler explained ), or 3) apt-get install gnome-panel04:21
shahanpaultag: do u want "dpkg -l | grep gnome-panel"04:21
paultagshahan, not really. I know it's not installed04:21
shahanpaultag: hmm04:22
mnewtondid your gnome-panel break after the upgrade to lucid?04:22
shahanpaultag: I am suffering this problem for about a month04:22
paultagshahan, So, you have three options. 1) Get a new HD. 2) Use the Live CD to install the package ( as nhandler explained ), or 3) apt-get install gnome-panel04:22
shahanI havent make any update04:22
shahan:(04:22
shahan1. to purchase new one is not ......04:23
shahan2. I am trying but HDD problem04:23
shahan2. I have no internet in ubuntu right now04:23
shahanohhhhhhh04:23
mnewtonwell, do step 3 than - imo it is the easiest04:24
paultagmnewton, no, step one is04:24
paultagmnewton, it will fix all the issues, and he is on a phone modem04:24
paultagmnewton, that package will be about 70 bucks04:24
paultagmnewton, and for 70 bucks, you can get a new HD04:24
paultagand fix all the problems04:24
mnewtonic04:24
shahanpaultag: right now I am using a unlimited Wifi connection04:25
shahanabout $18 per month04:25
paultagshahan, so use that, then04:25
mnewtongtg04:25
shahanI have a phone modem too....04:25
shahanpaultag: my Wifif modem is not detecting04:25
paultagshahan, plug into it with CAT5e04:25
shahanpaultag: this is the problem04:25
shahanpaultag: ok.....tnx for giving time04:26
paultagsure shahan04:26
shahanpaultag: where r u from?04:27
paultagshahan, USA04:27
paultagshahan, you are from India?04:27
shahanpaultag: no....from BANGLADESH, DHAKA04:27
paultagAh04:27
paultagRighto. I'm AFK. Time for some Morrowind04:30
shahanpaultag: can u tell me how can I use my live cd to install gnome-panel04:31
shahanpaultag: I hve a alternate cd too04:32
nhandlershahan: System->Administration->Software Sources04:33
nhandlerCheck the box next to your cd04:33
shahanndefontenay: hahahha ... I have no panels right now04:33
shahannhandler: its not possible for me right now to to this through GUI04:34
shahanI have to do it through terminal04:34
nhandlershahan: Do you have a GUI at all (with just no panels)?04:35
shahannhandler: yes...you right ...I just have no panels04:35
running_rabbit07gksu --desktop /usr/share/applications/software-properties.desktop /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk04:35
running_rabbit07That is one big command that will open software sources applet04:36
running_rabbit07in the terminal04:36
nhandlerJust do gksudo /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk04:36
running_rabbit07oops, I moved the menu icon to the desktop to disect it04:37
running_rabbit07I still think the needed .deb may be in the apt folder04:38
running_rabbit07autoremove doesn't clean that folder04:38
shahan_nhandler: sorry..I disconnected04:38
running_rabbit07I would've voiced that earlier, but the kid wanted a grilled cheese04:38
nhandlerJust do gksudo /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk shahan_04:39
shahan_nhandler: will I write it in terminal?04:39
running_rabbit07yes04:39
nhandlerOr hit Alt+F204:40
shahan_alt+f2 doesnt work04:40
running_rabbit07he must be going through recovery mode and dropping to terminal04:41
shahannhandler: internet problem....disconenceted again04:41
shahannhandler: please tell me again04:42
shahannhandler: sorry for making u disturb04:42
nhandlerJust do gksudo /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk shahan_04:42
shahangksudo /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk shahan_04:42
shahanI will put it in terminal04:42
shahanright?04:42
running_rabbit07yes, without your name at the end04:43
shahannhandler: gksudo /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk04:43
shahannhandler: right?04:43
running_rabbit07yes04:43
shahannhandler: then what I will do?04:43
shahannhandler: please dont mind........I am a new user of UBUNTU ... for this ....04:44
shahanI am in skype too.....you can add me04:44
running_rabbit07when it opens,04:44
nhandlershahan: Check the box next to your cd in the bottom box04:44
shahanmohammad.shahan04:44
shahanrunning_rabbit07: do u have skype?04:45
running_rabbit07click the other software tab, then the button at the bottom that says add cr-rom04:45
running_rabbit07no, sorry04:45
shahanrunning_rabbit07: ok...04:45
shahangoing to UBUNTU04:45
shahanwill be back soon04:46
running_rabbit07hasta la vista04:46
shahanrunning_rabbit07: what does it mean? hasta la vista? :)04:46
running_rabbit07see ya later04:47
running_rabbit07when you get back04:47
shahanrunning_rabbit07: is is french?04:47
running_rabbit07spanish04:47
shahanrunning_rabbit07: tnx04:47
shahanrunning_rabbit07: within 5 mins04:47
running_rabbit07k04:47
shahanor 10 mins04:47
shahanrunning_rabbit07: after adding my cd rom how I will install gnome panel?\04:48
running_rabbit07sudo synaptic in a terminal will open synaptic package manager, then find gnome-panel in synaptic and install it04:49
shahanrunning_rabbit07: will it isntall from CD?04:49
shahanrunning_rabbit07: or from INTERNET04:49
running_rabbit07yes, after doing the steps above04:49
running_rabbit07the cd04:49
shahantnx04:49
shahanrunning_rabbit07: hasta la vista04:50
running_rabbit07...04:50
running_rabbit07....04:56
MadameTockShould have followed it up with 'baby'.04:56
running_rabbit07lol04:56
running_rabbit07I thought about it04:56
MadameTockThere's always next time :p04:57
running_rabbit07yup04:57
running_rabbit07Hopefully he comes back soon. It is almost my be time.05:04
running_rabbit07*bed time05:04
running_rabbit07If anyone wants to help shahan if he comes back with his wireless issue, he can get the driver he needs from here http://www.ralinktech.com/support.php?s=205:24
shahanrunning_rabbit07: hi05:59
shahanrunning_rabbit07: u here?06:00
running_rabbit07nope, he got run over by a truck, j/k :P06:00
running_rabbit07how did it go?06:00
shahanrunning_rabbit07: panel does appear06:00
shahanrunning_rabbit07: may be I will not be able to get it back06:01
running_rabbit07why not?06:01
shahanrunning_rabbit07: because I am trying with my problem for about a month06:02
shahanrunning_rabbit07: but didn't get any solution06:02
running_rabbit07You have been trying to get the panels back for a month?06:03
running_rabbit07shahan, you need to use Windows to download GParted LiveCD and use it to fix the Ubuntu partitions and attempt reinstall.06:07
shahanrunning_rabbit07: yes....for one month06:08
running_rabbit07shahan, you need to use Windows to download GParted LiveCD and use it to fix the Ubuntu partitions and attempt reinstall.06:08
shahanrunning_rabbit07: ok06:10
shahantnx06:10
shahanbey06:10
running_rabbit07shahan, you can get the drivers for your wireless at http://www.ralinktech.com/support.php?s=2 just need to download to windows and copy to ubuntu with a thumb drive or06:10
shahanwhat is ralink part number06:11
shahan?06:11
shahanrunning_rabbit07: what is ralink part number?06:12
shahanrunning_rabbit07: I dont understand which one is for me06:12
running_rabbit07You have to find the one with the same model number as the one you bought.06:13
shahanrunning_rabbit07: there is no no.06:14
shahanrunning_rabbit07: just one no. which is 00081074c0d806:14
shahanand MADE IN CHINA06:14
running_rabbit07Do you still have the package or the install disk that came with it for Windows? One of those would have the part number you need on it.06:16
running_rabbit07I do not know how to find that via your Windows machine.06:16
shahanrunning_rabbit07: how to find on ubuntu?06:18
running_rabbit07you have to have internet to install the program I know of.06:19
shahanrunning_rabbit07: hmm06:19
running_rabbit07shahan, you need to use Windows to download GParted LiveCD and use it to fix the Ubuntu partitions and attempt reinstall. Once you do this, it will be much easier to get wireless working.06:20
shahanyes06:21
shahandownloading Gparted06:25
shahanwill I donwload the iso or zip?06:26
shahanwill I hve to write on cd?06:26
MadameTockyay tenach!07:50
tenachTook me long enough..07:51
Akoshi team08:08
tenachHello Akos08:09
leoquanttenach MadameTock just married?08:12
tenachleoquant, been married since July ;)08:12
leoquantlol with madametock?08:13
tenachYes.08:13
leoquantor are into bots tenach?08:13
MadameTockOh yes, I am a femme bot.08:14
MadameTockI forget to mention that.08:14
leoquantwhatever :P08:17
tenachShe makes some awesome food.08:23
MadameTocktenach10:17
tenachYes, MadameTock ?10:18
MadameTockDude, I just got asl'd10:18
Akoshaha10:18
tenachHahaha.10:18
MadameTockThat hasn't happened in, like, years!10:18
tenachYou really haven't used a public chat in, like, years!10:18
tenach:P10:18
MadameTockHey now. Sure I have.10:18
MadameTockDon't make me come back there.10:19
MadameTocktenach, come try my meringue10:23
tenachWe should talk in an offtopic channel, MadameTock10:23
MadameTockWhoops!10:23
tenachWelcome back leoquant10:26
Silver_Fox_o/10:26
leoquanthi10:27
leoquantchecking all sorts of clients10:27
leoquantvia Z+10:27
leoquantsorry for the noise10:27
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Dvorak_AJSvoila16:22
Dvorak_AJSanyone there?16:23
Dvorak_AJSwhat's that giving eachothers vote all the time?17:52
nigelbits voice17:52
Dvorak_AJSvoice?17:53
nigelbDvorak_AJS, its to indicate people who are member of the beginners team17:54
Dvorak_AJSoh I see, kinda new with the IRC'ing :p17:56
nigelb:)17:56
Dvorak_AJSwhy was your other text in red, private message?17:56
nigelbno, I mentioned your nickname in my message earlier17:58
nigelbDvorak_AJS, this message would be in red17:58
Dvorak_AJSdo you click on me or sth to get in in your typebar? or do you type it :p? nigelb17:59
nigelbDvorak_AJS, I just type it.  there is tab autocompletion.  so if I type dvo <tab> it would fill your nickname automatically18:00
Dvorak_AJSawesome, hey can I ask you an ubuntu question too or are you a beginner yourself sir?18:00
nigelbplease, ask away.  If someone knows they will reply.  If I know I'll reply18:01
Dvorak_AJSwhy doesn't  [ctrl + alt]  result in  [Alt Gr] like in windows?, I tried googling it but didn't find it I'm afraid18:02
nigelbokay, I dont understand.  what does ctrl + alt do in windows?18:02
Dvorak_AJSit does the same as Alt Gr18:03
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Dvorak_AJSso when typing the "@" I would either use Ctrl+Alt+2 , or ALt Gr + 218:03
nigelbso what is Gr?18:03
nigelbthe super key?18:03
Dvorak_AJSuhm next to the space bar18:03
Dvorak_AJSmaybe you use a qwerty :S?18:04
Dvorak_AJShttp://farm1.static.flickr.com/37/123114971_5e5fde8263.jpg?v=018:04
nigelbyeah, I use qwerty18:04
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ZachK_hey team19:44
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benny1Hello everyone, Anyone know about Transmission BitTorrent software?20:14
lukjad86benny1 No, I personally use rtorrent20:16
benny1Awww damn, well I guess theres not too much point, I was hoping to get some Seinfeld episodes downloaded since as of tomorrow Sony decide to pull the plug on PS3 running linux20:18
benny1thanks anway lukjad8620:18
pedro3005benny1, what about it?20:18
benny1Hi pedro, I think you have helped me before...20:18
pedro3005possibly20:19
pedro3005benny1, so, what is your issue?20:19
benny1yeah I'm downloading one torrent fine, but I'm trying to get a load of Seinfeld episodes.. and the torrent starts and then very soon after gives an error the jist of it is that the file system is read only.20:20
benny1I tried the obvious navigate to the destination folder, properties and applied read and write permission and applied this to all the contents.... nothing happened though. It makes zero sense to me and as I lose linux tomorrow if I want to continue to use online games I thought i'd try to dl the rest of seinfeld.20:22
pedro3005benny1, hm.. not sure. tried using some other program?20:25
benny1No, is Operas torrent support any good?20:26
pedro3005benny1, I forgot the name of the one I liked... hm...20:26
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benny1No worries, its not so important as i'm going to have to delete my linux partition in the next few days, against my will.20:27
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duanedesignnose_pick: thought I would come over here so you wouldnt have to go back and forth22:04
duanedesign:)22:04
duanedesignnose_pick: do you have an Nvidia card by chance?22:05
nose_pickhaha22:05
nose_pickI have a intel one on board on my acer laptop22:06
duanedesignkk22:06
duanedesignnose_pick   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88897922:14
ZachK_what up22:15
duanedesignhello ZachK_22:15
ZachK_hey duanedesign....got my pc!22:16
seidoshow do you make a kernel the default in grub?22:16
ZachK_sad to say i don't know seidos....22:17
ZachK_seidos: but i can look it up22:17
seidosI'll look it up to.  probably on the forums somewhere22:17
ZachK_seidos: ok22:18
duanedesignseidos: you want to change the order?22:22
duanedesignmake a particular kernel the top entry22:22
seidosyeah change the order22:23
seidosI need to use an older kernel for my system to work22:23
seidosI have a piecemeal linux running.  I'm out of cdrs and the usb thumbdrive I tried didn't work.  all I had was a copy of moonOS so I installed that over lucid beta 122:24
seidosthen I did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop22:24
Nose_PickNoob Question: How do you change it so you cannot change root password through sudo command?22:26
Nose_PickAnd also another question: How do you mount a partition?22:27
* seidos picks his nose22:28
seidosman I mounted a partition a few days ago from the terminal22:28
seidosit's like mount /dev/drive /mnt or something22:29
Nose_PickThanks bro22:29
seidosNose_Pick, don't know about changing root password through sudo though22:29
seidosnp22:30
Nose_Pickkk22:30
Nose_PickI just mounted a partition, I'm so impressed with myself. Haha.22:57
pedro3005Nose_Pick, good job!23:00
Nose_PickCheers mate. :D23:00
Nose_PickIm total noob but I dont care23:01
pedro3005Nose_Pick, you are on your way to becoming a linux guru!23:02
* Nose_Pick blushes23:04
duanedesignseidos: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133879823:16
seidosduanedesign, I installed startup-manager.  I haven't rebooted yet, but I think it did the trick23:17
seidosduanedesign, I am running an old version of "ubuntu?"  I guess I can say I'm running ubuntu, I have a piecemeal system right now until I can get a hold of a cd23:17
duanedesignseidos: well you are using grub legacy it is much much easier to change the order of the kernels23:18
seidosduanedesign, I'm not sure if startup-manager works for grub223:18
seidosthere are times that I miss windows.  it works better on this hardware configuration :(23:20
shazbotI got the shits with windows thats why it lead me down the path of nix23:20
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seidosI got tired of windows too, still though, I would be lying if I said windows didn't work as good on this hardware configuration23:22
seidosI made a poor choice in hardware23:23
MadameTockFret not, little seidos.23:31
ZachK_hmm23:32
* ZachK_ waltzes in.....looks...23:32
seidosMadameTock, I wish I knew c and/or c++ so I could fix the problems myself.  but learning c, phew, that's a big job23:33
seidosI don't know if I'm capable quite frankly23:34
MadameTockSee, I'm a horrible person.23:34
MadameTockI bake cookies for people, and they fix things for me.23:34
running_rabbit07I was so glad when my NIDS teacher said I could use TCPDump instead of booting WIndows just to use WINDump23:34
pedro3005MadameTock, :D!23:34
MadameTockI'm trying to change that, but it's much easier to just sniff varnish and paint other worlds all day.23:34
MadameTockpedro3005, >:323:35
MadameTockseidos, I should be so brave, and attempt to learn a language. Kudos to you.23:35
seidosMadameTock, forget c.  C is so outside of the possible range of learning.  I can barely handle learning python which is supposed to be easier23:38
pedro3005seidos, no, you are good at it!23:38
seidospedro3005, you're a kind master23:39
ZachK_pedro3005: you got a padawan man? good for ya!23:39
pedro3005ZachK_, for like years :P23:39
seidoshaha23:39
pedro3005seidos, you should think of joining the team some of these days23:39
pedro3005if you still want23:39
seidosyeah I'd like to23:39
pedro3005seidos, anyway, I got an idea for the bot you could program23:40
seidosI'll join whenever you think I'm ready23:40
seidosa padawan doesn't do the trials unless his master thinks he is ready23:40
pedro3005ready? You couldn't get readier, not with me anyway. All we talk about is python and philosophy23:40
pedro3005:P23:40
seidoswell I would want to do well on the trials so I didn't embarrass you23:41
seidosI doubt they'll ask me a question about camus23:42
pedro3005seidos, you will do well23:42
* MadameTock observes23:44
tenachseidos, we should both go at the same time :)23:44
tenachRather, same meeting and whatnot23:45
MadameTockseidos, I'll give you congratulatory cookies.23:45
ZachK_tenach, seidos you guys will do great23:47
seidosme like cookies23:47
pedro3005seidos, actually, something weird23:47
tenachMadameTock, makes some epic cookies.23:47
seidospedro3005, ?23:47
pedro3005seidos, camus criticized science on myth of sisyphus23:47
seidospedro3005, that figures23:48
seidospedro3005, I think I was reading something you sent me about how all science ends up become metaphor and thus doesn't solve ultimately solve the existential problem23:48
seidos*becoming23:48
seidos-solve23:49
seidosman I need to check what I write before I press enter23:49
seidosatrocious23:49
tenachZachK_, got your email but haven't emailed you back re: the wiki FG23:49
pedro3005"That way, the science which should teach me everything ends in hypothesis, the dark consciousness ends in a metaphor, the uncertain resolves itself in a work of art"23:49
pedro3005my translation isn't the best23:50
pedro3005something amongst these lines23:50
seidoshow does he know the science which should teach everything ends in hypothesis?23:50
seidosis it because it's impossible to learn enough science to resolve the existential predicament?23:50
pedro3005seidos, science IS hypothetical23:51
seidospedro3005, well it is and it isn't.  experimentation makes it real23:51
pedro3005but, in my opinion, that is the only path to true knowledge; it is preposterous to think that there is some way to know all23:52
seidosit does indeed seem preposterous23:52
pedro3005seidos, we may be misinterpreting him.23:52
pedro3005seidos, also, he talked about a contradiction in existence.. it was hard to follow23:53
seidospedro3005, that's true, he was around way before us.  who knows what he actually believed23:53
seidoshmmm a contradiction in existence doesn't surprise me.  reminds me of taoism23:53
seidosphilosophy is paled by science23:53
seidosfrom science we have things like the refrigerator and the dishwasher, things that actually help improve the quality of life.23:54
seidosbut what about philosophy?  all we have is existential angst.  I'm losing faith in philosophy23:54
pedro3005seidos, he says that when thought reflects upon itself, it meets a contradiction. then he mentions it is useless to state it again, then quoting Aristotle23:54
seidosI'm not sure what that means23:55
seidos"when thought reflects upon itself"23:55
seidosthought reflecting upon itself reminds me of meditation23:55
pedro3005"The consequence, many times ridiculed, of these opinions is that they destroy themselves. For by affirming everything is true, we confirm the truth of the opposite affirmation and in consequence the falseness of our own thesis(for the opposite affirmation does not admit itself being true). And if we say all is false, this affirmation also reveals itself as false. If we declare that only the affirmation opposite to ours or only ours is23:59
pedro3005not false, we are still made to admit an infinite number of truthful or false statements. For he that pronounces a truthful statement, pronounces at the same time that itself is true, ad infinitum."23:59
pedro3005seidos, ^23:59

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