[00:23] <alienkid10> what packages do I need to play MP3, WMA, WMV, and DVDs? I am going to install without Internet at a friends and so am making a APToncd disc with a ton of packages on it
[00:26] <pedro3005> alienkid10, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:26] <alienkid10> can't
[00:26] <pedro3005> also libdvdcss2
[00:26] <alienkid10> it installs things that need to download other things
[00:27] <pedro3005> :/
[00:27] <alienkid10> I don't have a new connection there
[00:27] <tenach> alienkid10, gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg for video like wmv
[00:28] <alienkid10> what about MP3?
[00:28] <alienkid10> ugly?
[00:29] <tenach> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[00:29] <tenach> I belive
[00:29] <tenach> *believe
[00:29] <tenach> I would suggest getting gstreamer0.10-plugins-good, bad and ugly
[00:29] <tenach> if you are making sure you can play most audo and video
[00:30] <alienkid10> will do
[00:30] <alienkid10> thanks
[00:30] <alienkid10> #ubuntu was too flooded
[00:31] <tenach> also pedro3005 is right, libdvdcss2 will be needed for playing some dvd playback
[00:31] <alienkid10> thanks
[00:31] <tenach> *playing some dvds
[00:31] <alienkid10> thanks!
[00:34] <tenach> No problem.
[02:13] <shahan> any one here
[02:13] <shahan> I want help related to ubuntu 9.04
[02:13] <shahan> desktop environment problem
[02:13] <MadameTock> shahan, what is the problem?
[02:14] <slick666> sure thing
[02:14] <shahan> any one here who can help me
[02:14] <slick666> lay it on us
[02:14] <shahan> MadameTock: yes
[02:14] <shahan> MadameTock: there is not panel up and down of my screen
[02:14] <shahan> its 9.04
[02:14] <shahan> MadameTock:  what can I do nwo
[02:14] <shahan> now
[02:15] <MadameTock> You need to reset your panels
[02:15] <shahan> MadameTock: how can I do it
[02:16] <shahan> MadameTock: I have no internet connection in ubuntu right now
[02:16] <shahan> MadameTock: because my new modem is not detecting on ubuntu
[02:16] <MadameTock> press alt+f2, and type in gnome-terminal to open your terminal
[02:17] <MadameTock> shahan, it's okay that you don't have a connection
[02:17] <shahan> MadameTock: I have tried this
[02:17] <MadameTock> Ooh, resetting your panels?
[02:17] <shahan> MadameTock: when I enter in terminal I cannt write anything
[02:18] <shahan> MadameTock: because a small white cursor only lights
[02:18] <MadameTock> Is your mouse working?
[02:18] <shahan> MadameTock: if i write anything....it doesnt work
[02:18] <shahan> MadameTock: yes...mouse works
[02:18] <MadameTock> Is your mouse over the terminal?
[02:19] <shahan> MadameTock: no....I tried through alt+F3...
[02:19] <shahan> MadameTock: then a terminal starts
[02:19] <shahan> MadameTock:  I also tried through right clicking on the desktop then > create luncher
[02:20] <MadameTock> Do you click on the terminal, or just start typing?
[02:21] <shahan> MadameTock: when I press alt+f3 the full screen becomes terminal( a black screen)...I dont need to press mouse....because there mouse doesnt appear
[02:23] <MadameTock> shahan, is your desk top even starting, or are you staying in terminal?
[02:24] <shahan> MadameTock: no.....the desktop starts...I can change desktop wallpaper....can enter in pdf files which is located in my desktop...etc.
[02:24] <shahan> MadameTock: but its not possible to do any further task without panels
[02:26] <MadameTock> shahan: When you are inside the desktop, if you press alt+f2, not alt+f3, you can open your gnome-terminal by typing in its name, and from there reset your panels.
[02:26] <shahan> MadameTock: ok...wait...I am going to trying this....
[02:27] <shahan> MadameTock: hope I will get u
[02:27] <MadameTock> shahan: let me know when you have a terminal open.
[02:27] <shahan> MadameTock: hope my terminal is open...then what I will do?
[02:28] <shahan> MadameTock: as...I have a dual boot ....I have to come in XP again...: :)
[02:28] <MadameTock> Oh! Well, once you get your terminal open, type in
[02:28] <MadameTock> rm -r ~/.gconf/apps/panel
[02:29] <MadameTock> That will reset your panel. To test, just restart!
[02:30] <shahan> MadameTock: tnx
[02:52] <shahan> MadameTock: hi
[02:52] <shahan> MadameTock: r u here?
[02:52] <shahan> MadameTock: I am back
[02:53] <shahan> MadameTock: hello
[02:53] <MadameTock> shahan: Hey, did it work?
[02:54] <shahan> MadameTock: wait Am giving u the screen shot
[02:56]  * ZachK_ has got a pc!
[02:57] <shahan> http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww145/shahan011/terminalopen.png
[02:57] <shahan> MadameTock: http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww145/shahan011/terminalopen.png
[02:58] <shahan> MadameTock:  have u seen
[02:58] <shahan> MadameTock: ?
[02:59] <nigelb> just FYI:
[02:59] <nigelb> Topic for #ubuntu+1 is: Official Ubuntu Lucid Lynx support/discussion | GNOME 2.30 being uploaded. Packages are in-flux, so don't upgrade yet.
[02:59] <nigelb> so that could be the trouble for you
[03:00] <shahan> MadameTock: r u here?
[03:01] <MadameTock> shahan, yes, I'm trying to figure out the problem
[03:01] <shahan> MadameTock: I also tried with http://paste-it.net/public/aa6907e/
[03:07] <shahan> MadameTock: coming back withing 5 mins
[03:08] <running_rabbit07> nigelb, will that gnome be incorporated into Lucid or is it too late for that? Thanx
[03:09] <nigelb> running_rabbit07, I'm unsure.  have to ask one of the devs tomorrow
[03:09] <running_rabbit07> kool, thanx
[03:10] <paultag> DarkwingDuck, welcome to Planet Ubuntu
[03:10] <paultag> DarkwingDuck, :)
[03:10] <paultag> DarkwingDuck, looking good :)
[03:16] <DarkwingDuck> Thanks paultag
[03:18] <paultag> DarkwingDuck, grats :)
[03:18] <DarkwingDuck> :D I'm stoked
[03:19] <shahan> MadameTock: back
[03:19] <shahan> MadameTock: r u here?
[03:20] <MadameTock> shahan: Yes, welcome back
[03:20] <shahan> MadameTock:  have u got any solution
[03:20] <shahan> MadameTock: ?
[03:20] <MadameTock> shahan: I've got something else you can try
[03:20] <shahan> MadameTock: tell me
[03:21] <MadameTock> shahan: go in to your terminal, and type the following three lines
[03:21] <MadameTock> gconftool-2 --shutdown
[03:21] <MadameTock> rm -rf .gconf/apps/panel
[03:22] <shahan> $ gconftool-2 --shutdown $ gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel $ rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel $ pkill gnome-panel
[03:22] <MadameTock> pkill gnome-panel
[03:22] <shahan> I have tried this
[03:22] <shahan> just before 2 mins ago
[03:22] <MadameTock> shahan: That's all I know to suggest.
[03:22] <shahan> :(
[03:22] <MadameTock> shahan: I'm sorry I couldn't help resolve your problem.
[03:23] <shahan> MadameTock: can u suggest me where can I get help further?
[03:23] <MadameTock> shahan: There may be a more experienced individual in the room that can help. :)
[03:24] <shahan> ooooo
[03:24] <shahan> MadameTock: please help me to find out any other guys
[03:24] <shahan> MadameTock: may I introduced with u?
[03:24] <shahan> MadameTock: where r u from?
[03:27] <MadameTock> shahan: Washington State, USA
[03:27] <MadameTock> shahan: How about yourself?
[03:27] <shahan> MadameTock: I am from BANGLADESH
[03:27] <shahan> MadameTock: what do u do?
[03:28] <shahan> MadameTock: BANGLADESH, DHAKA
[03:28] <MadameTock> ibuclaw, paultag, tenach says you would know how to help with this problem.
[03:28] <MadameTock> rather, may
[03:28] <paultag> Howdy
[03:28] <paultag> Hold on a second
[03:28] <MadameTock> shahan: Pleased to meet you!
[03:28] <MadameTock> Okee.
[03:28] <paultag> Just need to read back a bit :)
[03:29] <shahan> MadameTock: tnx for your kind help
[03:29] <paultag> Can you take a second and describe exactly whats going on shahan? I'll be here for a while so take your time and write in long sentiences :)
[03:30] <shahan> paultag: hi
[03:30] <paultag> Hi :)
[03:30] <shahan> paultag: I have a gnome problem
[03:31] <shahan> paultag: I lost my two panel of my desktop
[03:31] <paultag> shahan, take your time and explain it in nice long sentiences
[03:31] <shahan> paultag: I dont know how
[03:31] <paultag> shahan, I'm not going anywhere, take your time
[03:31] <shahan> paultag: ok
[03:32] <shahan> I lost my two panels of my desktop...I dont know how...now I want to get it back. Is there any solution to u about how can I get it...I have tried a lot of procedures....
[03:32] <shahan> like
[03:33] <shahan> paultag: http://paste-it.net/public/v32b4a8/
[03:33] <paultag> OK
[03:33] <paultag> let me think shahan
[03:33] <shahan> paultag: ok
[03:34] <shahan> paultag: ask me if u want more info.
[03:34] <paultag> shahan, could you try: `nohup gnome-panel &` ?
[03:34] <shahan> no
[03:34] <paultag> shahan, no in what way?
[03:35] <paultag> shahan, no in that you can't try it or no as in it did not do anything?
[03:35] <shahan> I didnt tried this
[03:35] <paultag> shahan, I asked if you could try that for me
[03:35] <shahan> paultag: ok...I am going to try this in ubuntu ...for this I have to restart the PC
[03:35] <shahan> nohup gnome-panel &
[03:36] <shahan> paultag:
[03:36] <paultag> shahan, I'll be here
[03:36] <shahan> paultag: nohup gnome-panel &
[03:36] <paultag> shahan, yes :)
[03:36] <shahan> paultag: ok
[03:36] <paultag> shahan, and be sure to log messages
[03:37] <shahan> paultag: http://paste-it.net/public/k02dd67/
[03:37] <shahan> paultag: I also tried this
[03:37] <shahan> let it check....I am coming back
[03:37] <paultag> shahan, add a sudo before that last command
[03:37] <paultag> shahan, but OK
[03:38] <shahan> paultag: sudo nohup gnome-panel &
[03:38] <shahan> paultag: ok?
[03:38] <paultag> no
[03:38] <paultag> shahan, on the apt-get -f install
[03:38] <paultag> shahan, gnome-panel needs to run as you
[03:38] <shahan> paultag: o yes
[03:38] <paultag> kk
[03:38] <shahan> coming back
[03:38] <paultag> sure thing, tyt
[03:42] <running_rabbit07> paultag, if you don't mind, what does "nohup gnome-panel &" do
[03:42] <paultag> running_rabbit07, sure thing :)
[03:43] <paultag> running_rabbit07, nohup will intercept all hangup calls to the shell ( as he will most likely close it after it works, if it works ), gnome-panel ( the actual panel for GNOME ), and & to fork it to the background of bash
[03:43] <paultag> running_rabbit07, if that works, gnome-panel is not starting up. If it does nothing there is a configuration issue
[03:44] <paultag> howdy shahan
[03:44] <shahan> paultag: hi
[03:44] <paultag> shahan, OK, so is it a conf issue or a startup issue?
[03:44] <paultag> do let us know!
[03:44] <running_rabbit07> thanx for explaining that, paultag
[03:44] <paultag> running_rabbit07, sure thing
[03:45] <shahan> paultag: http://paste-it.net/public/yfa8c18/
[03:45] <shahan> paultag: I have no idea about conf issue or startup issue
[03:45] <paultag> Yippie!
[03:46] <paultag> shahan, So, you don't seem to have the GNOME panel installed :)
[03:46] <paultag> shahan, sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[03:46] <shahan> paultag: will it required internet?
[03:46] <paultag> So, it's not starting because it's not installed, silly
[03:46] <paultag> shahan, yis
[03:46] <shahan> paultag: I have no internet
[03:46] <paultag> shahan, you can start the network by hand
[03:46] <paultag> shahan, why not?
[03:46] <shahan> paultag: in ubuntu....
[03:46] <paultag> shahan, how are you here
[03:46] <paultag> shahan, nm-applet
[03:47] <paultag> shahan, run that command
[03:47] <shahan> paultag: as my new modem doesnt work there in ubuntu
[03:47] <paultag> Ahha
[03:47] <shahan> paultag: what is the size of gnome-panel?
[03:47] <paultag> Hold on a sec
[03:49] <paultag> Uncompressed Size: 1,229k
[03:50] <shahan> paultag: I have a mobile phone to connect internet...which I can use....but as it takes 1KB=0.02 Tk. (1Tk. is 70 $) I have to think about it
[03:50] <shahan> paultag: http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww145/shahan011/terminalopen.png
[03:50] <shahan> let it check
[03:50] <paultag> shahan, try reinstalling from the CD
[03:50] <running_rabbit07> shahan, what modem do you have? dial-up or dsl
[03:51] <shahan> paultag: is it not gnome background
[03:51] <shahan> ?
[03:51] <paultag> shahan, for what?
[03:51] <paultag> the GNOME background is nautilus
[03:51] <shahan> paultag: ok...let me check
[03:51] <shahan> running_rabbit07: WiFi modem
[03:51] <running_rabbit07> k
[03:52] <paultag> shahan, try reinstalling from the CD
[03:52] <shahan> paultag: I have problem on my HDD
[03:52] <paultag> shahan, if it's so bad that you can't install, then you can't expect the already installed OS to behave well
[03:53] <shahan> paultag: for this I am unable to reinstall it...when partition manager comes....its start shouting......and hand
[03:53] <shahan> and hang
[03:53] <shahan> running_rabbit07: can u help me to be connected
[03:53] <shahan> running_rabbit07: have u any idea?
[03:54] <running_rabbit07> shahan, what have you tried for getting it connected?
[03:54] <shahan> running_rabbit07: http://paste-it.net/public/xc46a64/
[03:55] <shahan> running_rabbit07: my previous connection worked as plug and play
[03:55] <shahan> running_rabbit07: but the new one dont work as like previous
[03:55] <shahan> running_rabbit07: when I conected the USB of my previous modem in ubuntu ...its got connected
[03:56] <shahan> running_rabbit07: but new one doesn't
[03:56] <running_rabbit07> shahan, is it the ralink technology?
[03:56] <shahan> running_rabbit07: yes
[03:57] <shahan> running_rabbit07: as its says http://paste-it.net/public/xc46a64/
[03:58] <shahan> running_rabbit07: help me ...if you can...coming back within 5 mins
[04:04] <running_rabbit07> $70 for one download, ouch
[04:07] <mnewton> hello folks
[04:07] <running_rabbit07> hi
[04:08] <nhandler> Hello mnewton
[04:08] <mnewton> =) 'ello - say what's the command for whois again?
[04:09] <nhandler> mnewton: /whois
[04:09] <mnewton> i tried that, i says "Unknown command; see /help for the available commands"
[04:09] <mnewton> i'm using empathy atm
[04:09] <shahan> paultag: hi
[04:09] <nhandler> mnewton: empathy is a terrible irc client
[04:09] <mnewton> XD
[04:09] <paultag> hey shahan
[04:09] <paultag> hey mnewton, kline much?
[04:10] <paultag> HA!
[04:10] <shahan> paultag: is there any way to install gnome-panel from CD
[04:10] <paultag> mnewton, how's tricks?
[04:10]  * nhandler was wondering who would remember mnewton
[04:10] <mnewton> XD you still remember me i see
[04:10] <paultag> nhandler, can you use the live cd as a offline repo?
[04:10] <paultag> mnewton, I never forget
[04:10] <paultag> nhandler, never test my memory ;)
[04:10] <shahan> paultag: no
[04:10] <shahan> paultag: I never tried this
[04:10] <nhandler> paultag: Yeah. It includes several packages that are not actually installed on the live cd for that purpose
[04:10] <paultag> shahan, no what?
[04:11] <paultag> nhandler, thought so. shahan here has somehow managed to remove gnome-panel from his install
[04:11] <nhandler> paultag: In the System Sources app, it has a section for adding a live cd
[04:11] <paultag> Ah, ty nhandler
[04:11] <mnewton> any way to make a global limit on cpu usage?
[04:11] <paultag> shahan, give that a go
[04:11] <paultag> mnewton, try openvz or lxc
[04:11] <nhandler> mnewton: There is, but I can't remember how
[04:11] <mnewton> it's going 100% and my computer is getting hot
[04:11] <paultag> mnewton, run it with nice?
[04:11] <nhandler> paultag: I thought there was an easier method for that.
[04:12] <paultag> nhandler, there is the nice command to change it's priority
[04:12] <mnewton> tried that, its still not doing too much
[04:12] <mnewton> if i make the nice too large the program stops responding, but the cpu still stays the same
[04:12] <shahan> paultag: I hve live desktop and a alternat cd also
[04:12] <paultag> shahan, desktop
[04:12] <running_rabbit07> shahan, do you know how gnome-panel was uninstalled by any chance?
[04:13] <paultag> running_rabbit07, I did :)
[04:13] <shahan> running_rabbit07: yes.....I know something
[04:13] <shahan> wait
[04:13] <paultag> although, can you confirm this shahan? `dpkg -l | grep gnome-panel`
[04:13] <running_rabbit07> lol
[04:13] <shahan> paultag: sure
[04:13] <shahan> wait
[04:14] <running_rabbit07> if you didn't uninstall completely, then the package is still in the apt folder meaning synaptic should be able to find it
[04:14] <paultag> running_rabbit07, good call!
[04:15] <running_rabbit07> if he can surf folders, gdebi will install it
[04:15] <paultag> Oh wait
[04:15] <shahan> running_rabbit07: once I run     sudo apt-get remove gshutdown ntfs-config scim-m17n startupmanager soundconverter sysinfo tzdata vlc && sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:15] <paultag> will it cache it if it installed from the live cd?
[04:16] <shahan> after this I lost my panels.....    :(
[04:17] <shahan> paultag:     sudo apt-get remove gshutdown ntfs-config scim-m17n startupmanager soundconverter sysinfo vlc && sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:17] <paultag> I saw that
[04:17] <shahan> paultag: once I run this command ...after this the problem created
[04:18] <paultag> shahan, look, just reinstall the distro off the CD or install from the network, not too many other ways around it :)
[04:18] <shahan> paultag: I said u first .... there is a problem on my HDD....I cannt reinstall it
[04:19] <paultag> shahan, I'd suggest fixing the HD issue
[04:19] <shahan> paultag: may be the problem of UBUNTU
[04:19] <paultag> shahan, I doubt it.
[04:19] <paultag> shahan, if your HD has issues you can't expect it to be reliable
[04:19] <shahan> paultag: I can install XP easily
[04:19] <paultag> shahan, please do, then
[04:19] <paultag> shahan, I'm here to help, but if you want to install XP, be my guest. I don't care, I have no stake in your computer
[04:19] <shahan> paultag: I hve to repair it anyhow
[04:19] <paultag> shahan, then get a new Hard Drive
[04:20] <paultag> shahan, run a smart test on it
[04:20] <paultag> shahan, if it's bad, get a new drive
[04:20] <paultag> shahan, if it's good, install XP
[04:20] <shahan> paultag: sorry!!! I dont want to use XP ... For this I am trying to repair my lovely UBUNTU
[04:20] <shahan> paultag: I hate XP
[04:20] <shahan> paultag: but I have no other way to use my PC
[04:20] <paultag> shahan, OK. then don't say things that try and make me upset. It will do nothing except make me want to leave. This is my freetime, I am not paid to help you
[04:21] <shahan> paultag: yes...I know
[04:21] <shahan> so....
[04:21] <paultag> shahan, So, you have three options. 1) Get a new HD. 2) Use the Live CD to install the package ( as nhandler explained ), or 3) apt-get install gnome-panel
[04:21] <shahan> paultag: do u want "dpkg -l | grep gnome-panel"
[04:21] <paultag> shahan, not really. I know it's not installed
[04:22] <shahan> paultag: hmm
[04:22] <mnewton> did your gnome-panel break after the upgrade to lucid?
[04:22] <shahan> paultag: I am suffering this problem for about a month
[04:22] <paultag> shahan, So, you have three options. 1) Get a new HD. 2) Use the Live CD to install the package ( as nhandler explained ), or 3) apt-get install gnome-panel
[04:22] <shahan> I havent make any update
[04:22] <shahan> :(
[04:23] <shahan> 1. to purchase new one is not ......
[04:23] <shahan> 2. I am trying but HDD problem
[04:23] <shahan> 2. I have no internet in ubuntu right now
[04:23] <shahan> ohhhhhhh
[04:24] <mnewton> well, do step 3 than - imo it is the easiest
[04:24] <paultag> mnewton, no, step one is
[04:24] <paultag> mnewton, it will fix all the issues, and he is on a phone modem
[04:24] <paultag> mnewton, that package will be about 70 bucks
[04:24] <paultag> mnewton, and for 70 bucks, you can get a new HD
[04:24] <paultag> and fix all the problems
[04:24] <mnewton> ic
[04:25] <shahan> paultag: right now I am using a unlimited Wifi connection
[04:25] <shahan> about $18 per month
[04:25] <paultag> shahan, so use that, then
[04:25] <mnewton> gtg
[04:25] <shahan> I have a phone modem too....
[04:25] <shahan> paultag: my Wifif modem is not detecting
[04:25] <paultag> shahan, plug into it with CAT5e
[04:25] <shahan> paultag: this is the problem
[04:26] <shahan> paultag: ok.....tnx for giving time
[04:26] <paultag> sure shahan
[04:27] <shahan> paultag: where r u from?
[04:27] <paultag> shahan, USA
[04:27] <paultag> shahan, you are from India?
[04:27] <shahan> paultag: no....from BANGLADESH, DHAKA
[04:27] <paultag> Ah
[04:30] <paultag> Righto. I'm AFK. Time for some Morrowind
[04:31] <shahan> paultag: can u tell me how can I use my live cd to install gnome-panel
[04:32] <shahan> paultag: I hve a alternate cd too
[04:33] <nhandler> shahan: System->Administration->Software Sources
[04:33] <nhandler> Check the box next to your cd
[04:33] <shahan> ndefontenay: hahahha ... I have no panels right now
[04:34] <shahan> nhandler: its not possible for me right now to to this through GUI
[04:34] <shahan> I have to do it through terminal
[04:35] <nhandler> shahan: Do you have a GUI at all (with just no panels)?
[04:35] <shahan> nhandler: yes...you right ...I just have no panels
[04:35] <running_rabbit07> gksu --desktop /usr/share/applications/software-properties.desktop /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk
[04:36] <running_rabbit07> That is one big command that will open software sources applet
[04:36] <running_rabbit07> in the terminal
[04:36] <nhandler> Just do gksudo /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk
[04:37] <running_rabbit07> oops, I moved the menu icon to the desktop to disect it
[04:38] <running_rabbit07> I still think the needed .deb may be in the apt folder
[04:38] <running_rabbit07> autoremove doesn't clean that folder
[04:38] <shahan_> nhandler: sorry..I disconnected
[04:38] <running_rabbit07> I would've voiced that earlier, but the kid wanted a grilled cheese
[04:39] <nhandler> Just do gksudo /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk shahan_
[04:39] <shahan_> nhandler: will I write it in terminal?
[04:39] <running_rabbit07> yes
[04:40] <nhandler> Or hit Alt+F2
[04:40] <shahan_> alt+f2 doesnt work
[04:41] <running_rabbit07> he must be going through recovery mode and dropping to terminal
[04:41] <shahan> nhandler: internet problem....disconenceted again
[04:42] <shahan> nhandler: please tell me again
[04:42] <shahan> nhandler: sorry for making u disturb
[04:42] <nhandler> Just do gksudo /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk shahan_
[04:42] <shahan> gksudo /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk shahan_
[04:42] <shahan> I will put it in terminal
[04:42] <shahan> right?
[04:43] <running_rabbit07> yes, without your name at the end
[04:43] <shahan> nhandler: gksudo /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk
[04:43] <shahan> nhandler: right?
[04:43] <running_rabbit07> yes
[04:43] <shahan> nhandler: then what I will do?
[04:44] <shahan> nhandler: please dont mind........I am a new user of UBUNTU ... for this ....
[04:44] <shahan> I am in skype too.....you can add me
[04:44] <running_rabbit07> when it opens,
[04:44] <nhandler> shahan: Check the box next to your cd in the bottom box
[04:44] <shahan> mohammad.shahan
[04:45] <shahan> running_rabbit07: do u have skype?
[04:45] <running_rabbit07> click the other software tab, then the button at the bottom that says add cr-rom
[04:45] <running_rabbit07> no, sorry
[04:45] <shahan> running_rabbit07: ok...
[04:45] <shahan> going to UBUNTU
[04:46] <shahan> will be back soon
[04:46] <running_rabbit07> hasta la vista
[04:46] <shahan> running_rabbit07: what does it mean? hasta la vista? :)
[04:47] <running_rabbit07> see ya later
[04:47] <running_rabbit07> when you get back
[04:47] <shahan> running_rabbit07: is is french?
[04:47] <running_rabbit07> spanish
[04:47] <shahan> running_rabbit07: tnx
[04:47] <shahan> running_rabbit07: within 5 mins
[04:47] <running_rabbit07> k
[04:47] <shahan> or 10 mins
[04:48] <shahan> running_rabbit07: after adding my cd rom how I will install gnome panel?\
[04:49] <running_rabbit07> sudo synaptic in a terminal will open synaptic package manager, then find gnome-panel in synaptic and install it
[04:49] <shahan> running_rabbit07: will it isntall from CD?
[04:49] <shahan> running_rabbit07: or from INTERNET
[04:49] <running_rabbit07> yes, after doing the steps above
[04:49] <running_rabbit07> the cd
[04:49] <shahan> tnx
[04:50] <shahan> running_rabbit07: hasta la vista
[04:50] <running_rabbit07> ...
[04:56] <running_rabbit07> ....
[04:56] <MadameTock> Should have followed it up with 'baby'.
[04:56] <running_rabbit07> lol
[04:56] <running_rabbit07> I thought about it
[04:57] <MadameTock> There's always next time :p
[04:57] <running_rabbit07> yup
[05:04] <running_rabbit07> Hopefully he comes back soon. It is almost my be time.
[05:04] <running_rabbit07> *bed time
[05:24] <running_rabbit07> If anyone wants to help shahan if he comes back with his wireless issue, he can get the driver he needs from here http://www.ralinktech.com/support.php?s=2
[05:59] <shahan> running_rabbit07: hi
[06:00] <shahan> running_rabbit07: u here?
[06:00] <running_rabbit07> nope, he got run over by a truck, j/k :P
[06:00] <running_rabbit07> how did it go?
[06:00] <shahan> running_rabbit07: panel does appear
[06:01] <shahan> running_rabbit07: may be I will not be able to get it back
[06:01] <running_rabbit07> why not?
[06:02] <shahan> running_rabbit07: because I am trying with my problem for about a month
[06:02] <shahan> running_rabbit07: but didn't get any solution
[06:03] <running_rabbit07> You have been trying to get the panels back for a month?
[06:07] <running_rabbit07> shahan, you need to use Windows to download GParted LiveCD and use it to fix the Ubuntu partitions and attempt reinstall.
[06:08] <shahan> running_rabbit07: yes....for one month
[06:08] <running_rabbit07> shahan, you need to use Windows to download GParted LiveCD and use it to fix the Ubuntu partitions and attempt reinstall.
[06:10] <shahan> running_rabbit07: ok
[06:10] <shahan> tnx
[06:10] <shahan> bey
[06:10] <running_rabbit07> shahan, you can get the drivers for your wireless at http://www.ralinktech.com/support.php?s=2 just need to download to windows and copy to ubuntu with a thumb drive or
[06:11] <shahan> what is ralink part number
[06:11] <shahan> ?
[06:12] <shahan> running_rabbit07: what is ralink part number?
[06:12] <shahan> running_rabbit07: I dont understand which one is for me
[06:13] <running_rabbit07> You have to find the one with the same model number as the one you bought.
[06:14] <shahan> running_rabbit07: there is no no.
[06:14] <shahan> running_rabbit07: just one no. which is 00081074c0d8
[06:14] <shahan> and MADE IN CHINA
[06:16] <running_rabbit07> Do you still have the package or the install disk that came with it for Windows? One of those would have the part number you need on it.
[06:16] <running_rabbit07> I do not know how to find that via your Windows machine.
[06:18] <shahan> running_rabbit07: how to find on ubuntu?
[06:19] <running_rabbit07> you have to have internet to install the program I know of.
[06:19] <shahan> running_rabbit07: hmm
[06:20] <running_rabbit07> shahan, you need to use Windows to download GParted LiveCD and use it to fix the Ubuntu partitions and attempt reinstall. Once you do this, it will be much easier to get wireless working.
[06:21] <shahan> yes
[06:25] <shahan> downloading Gparted
[06:26] <shahan> will I donwload the iso or zip?
[06:26] <shahan> will I hve to write on cd?
[07:50] <MadameTock> yay tenach!
[07:51] <tenach> Took me long enough..
[08:08] <Akos> hi team
[08:09] <tenach> Hello Akos
[08:12] <leoquant> tenach MadameTock just married?
[08:12] <tenach> leoquant, been married since July ;)
[08:13] <leoquant> lol with madametock?
[08:13] <tenach> Yes.
[08:13] <leoquant> or are into bots tenach?
[08:14] <MadameTock> Oh yes, I am a femme bot.
[08:14] <MadameTock> I forget to mention that.
[08:17] <leoquant> whatever :P
[08:23] <tenach> She makes some awesome food.
[10:17] <MadameTock> tenach
[10:18] <tenach> Yes, MadameTock ?
[10:18] <MadameTock> Dude, I just got asl'd
[10:18] <Akos> haha
[10:18] <tenach> Hahaha.
[10:18] <MadameTock> That hasn't happened in, like, years!
[10:18] <tenach> You really haven't used a public chat in, like, years!
[10:18] <tenach> :P
[10:18] <MadameTock> Hey now. Sure I have.
[10:19] <MadameTock> Don't make me come back there.
[10:23] <MadameTock> tenach, come try my meringue
[10:23] <tenach> We should talk in an offtopic channel, MadameTock
[10:23] <MadameTock> Whoops!
[10:26] <tenach> Welcome back leoquant
[10:26] <Silver_Fox_> o/
[10:27] <leoquant> hi
[10:27] <leoquant> checking all sorts of clients
[10:27] <leoquant> via Z+
[10:27] <leoquant> sorry for the noise
[16:22] <Dvorak_AJS> voila
[16:23] <Dvorak_AJS> anyone there?
[17:52] <Dvorak_AJS> what's that giving eachothers vote all the time?
[17:52] <nigelb> its voice
[17:53] <Dvorak_AJS> voice?
[17:54] <nigelb> Dvorak_AJS, its to indicate people who are member of the beginners team
[17:56] <Dvorak_AJS> oh I see, kinda new with the IRC'ing :p
[17:56] <nigelb> :)
[17:56] <Dvorak_AJS> why was your other text in red, private message?
[17:58] <nigelb> no, I mentioned your nickname in my message earlier
[17:58] <nigelb> Dvorak_AJS, this message would be in red
[17:59] <Dvorak_AJS> do you click on me or sth to get in in your typebar? or do you type it :p? nigelb
[18:00] <nigelb> Dvorak_AJS, I just type it.  there is tab autocompletion.  so if I type dvo <tab> it would fill your nickname automatically
[18:00] <Dvorak_AJS> awesome, hey can I ask you an ubuntu question too or are you a beginner yourself sir?
[18:01] <nigelb> please, ask away.  If someone knows they will reply.  If I know I'll reply
[18:02] <Dvorak_AJS> why doesn't  [ctrl + alt]  result in  [Alt Gr] like in windows?, I tried googling it but didn't find it I'm afraid
[18:02] <nigelb> okay, I dont understand.  what does ctrl + alt do in windows?
[18:03] <Dvorak_AJS> it does the same as Alt Gr
[18:03] <Dvorak_AJS> so when typing the "@" I would either use Ctrl+Alt+2 , or ALt Gr + 2
[18:03] <nigelb> so what is Gr?
[18:03] <nigelb> the super key?
[18:03] <Dvorak_AJS> uhm next to the space bar
[18:04] <Dvorak_AJS> maybe you use a qwerty :S?
[18:04] <Dvorak_AJS> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/37/123114971_5e5fde8263.jpg?v=0
[18:04] <nigelb> yeah, I use qwerty
[19:44] <ZachK_> hey team
[20:14] <benny1> Hello everyone, Anyone know about Transmission BitTorrent software?
[20:16] <lukjad86> benny1 No, I personally use rtorrent
[20:18] <benny1> Awww damn, well I guess theres not too much point, I was hoping to get some Seinfeld episodes downloaded since as of tomorrow Sony decide to pull the plug on PS3 running linux
[20:18] <benny1> thanks anway lukjad86
[20:18] <pedro3005> benny1, what about it?
[20:18] <benny1> Hi pedro, I think you have helped me before...
[20:19] <pedro3005> possibly
[20:19] <pedro3005> benny1, so, what is your issue?
[20:20] <benny1> yeah I'm downloading one torrent fine, but I'm trying to get a load of Seinfeld episodes.. and the torrent starts and then very soon after gives an error the jist of it is that the file system is read only.
[20:22] <benny1> I tried the obvious navigate to the destination folder, properties and applied read and write permission and applied this to all the contents.... nothing happened though. It makes zero sense to me and as I lose linux tomorrow if I want to continue to use online games I thought i'd try to dl the rest of seinfeld.
[20:25] <pedro3005> benny1, hm.. not sure. tried using some other program?
[20:26] <benny1> No, is Operas torrent support any good?
[20:26] <pedro3005> benny1, I forgot the name of the one I liked... hm...
[20:27] <benny1> No worries, its not so important as i'm going to have to delete my linux partition in the next few days, against my will.
[22:04] <duanedesign> nose_pick: thought I would come over here so you wouldnt have to go back and forth
[22:04] <duanedesign> :)
[22:05] <duanedesign> nose_pick: do you have an Nvidia card by chance?
[22:05] <nose_pick> haha
[22:06] <nose_pick> I have a intel one on board on my acer laptop
[22:06] <duanedesign> kk
[22:14] <duanedesign> nose_pick   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=888979
[22:15] <ZachK_> what up
[22:15] <duanedesign> hello ZachK_
[22:16] <ZachK_> hey duanedesign....got my pc!
[22:16] <seidos> how do you make a kernel the default in grub?
[22:17] <ZachK_> sad to say i don't know seidos....
[22:17] <ZachK_> seidos: but i can look it up
[22:17] <seidos> I'll look it up to.  probably on the forums somewhere
[22:18] <ZachK_> seidos: ok
[22:22] <duanedesign> seidos: you want to change the order?
[22:22] <duanedesign> make a particular kernel the top entry
[22:23] <seidos> yeah change the order
[22:23] <seidos> I need to use an older kernel for my system to work
[22:24] <seidos> I have a piecemeal linux running.  I'm out of cdrs and the usb thumbdrive I tried didn't work.  all I had was a copy of moonOS so I installed that over lucid beta 1
[22:24] <seidos> then I did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:26] <Nose_Pick> Noob Question: How do you change it so you cannot change root password through sudo command?
[22:27] <Nose_Pick> And also another question: How do you mount a partition?
[22:28]  * seidos picks his nose
[22:28] <seidos> man I mounted a partition a few days ago from the terminal
[22:29] <seidos> it's like mount /dev/drive /mnt or something
[22:29] <Nose_Pick> Thanks bro
[22:29] <seidos> Nose_Pick, don't know about changing root password through sudo though
[22:30] <seidos> np
[22:30] <Nose_Pick> kk
[22:57] <Nose_Pick> I just mounted a partition, I'm so impressed with myself. Haha.
[23:00] <pedro3005> Nose_Pick, good job!
[23:00] <Nose_Pick> Cheers mate. :D
[23:01] <Nose_Pick> Im total noob but I dont care
[23:02] <pedro3005> Nose_Pick, you are on your way to becoming a linux guru!
[23:04]  * Nose_Pick blushes
[23:16] <duanedesign> seidos: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1338798
[23:17] <seidos> duanedesign, I installed startup-manager.  I haven't rebooted yet, but I think it did the trick
[23:17] <seidos> duanedesign, I am running an old version of "ubuntu?"  I guess I can say I'm running ubuntu, I have a piecemeal system right now until I can get a hold of a cd
[23:18] <duanedesign> seidos: well you are using grub legacy it is much much easier to change the order of the kernels
[23:18] <seidos> duanedesign, I'm not sure if startup-manager works for grub2
[23:20] <seidos> there are times that I miss windows.  it works better on this hardware configuration :(
[23:20] <shazbot> I got the shits with windows thats why it lead me down the path of nix
[23:22] <seidos> I got tired of windows too, still though, I would be lying if I said windows didn't work as good on this hardware configuration
[23:23] <seidos> I made a poor choice in hardware
[23:31] <MadameTock> Fret not, little seidos.
[23:32] <ZachK_> hmm
[23:32]  * ZachK_ waltzes in.....looks...
[23:33] <seidos> MadameTock, I wish I knew c and/or c++ so I could fix the problems myself.  but learning c, phew, that's a big job
[23:34] <seidos> I don't know if I'm capable quite frankly
[23:34] <MadameTock> See, I'm a horrible person.
[23:34] <MadameTock> I bake cookies for people, and they fix things for me.
[23:34] <running_rabbit07> I was so glad when my NIDS teacher said I could use TCPDump instead of booting WIndows just to use WINDump
[23:34] <pedro3005> MadameTock, :D!
[23:34] <MadameTock> I'm trying to change that, but it's much easier to just sniff varnish and paint other worlds all day.
[23:35] <MadameTock> pedro3005, >:3
[23:35] <MadameTock> seidos, I should be so brave, and attempt to learn a language. Kudos to you.
[23:38] <seidos> MadameTock, forget c.  C is so outside of the possible range of learning.  I can barely handle learning python which is supposed to be easier
[23:38] <pedro3005> seidos, no, you are good at it!
[23:39] <seidos> pedro3005, you're a kind master
[23:39] <ZachK_> pedro3005: you got a padawan man? good for ya!
[23:39] <pedro3005> ZachK_, for like years :P
[23:39] <seidos> haha
[23:39] <pedro3005> seidos, you should think of joining the team some of these days
[23:39] <pedro3005> if you still want
[23:39] <seidos> yeah I'd like to
[23:40] <pedro3005> seidos, anyway, I got an idea for the bot you could program
[23:40] <seidos> I'll join whenever you think I'm ready
[23:40] <seidos> a padawan doesn't do the trials unless his master thinks he is ready
[23:40] <pedro3005> ready? You couldn't get readier, not with me anyway. All we talk about is python and philosophy
[23:40] <pedro3005> :P
[23:41] <seidos> well I would want to do well on the trials so I didn't embarrass you
[23:42] <seidos> I doubt they'll ask me a question about camus
[23:42] <pedro3005> seidos, you will do well
[23:44]  * MadameTock observes
[23:44] <tenach> seidos, we should both go at the same time :)
[23:45] <tenach> Rather, same meeting and whatnot
[23:45] <MadameTock> seidos, I'll give you congratulatory cookies.
[23:47] <ZachK_> tenach, seidos you guys will do great
[23:47] <seidos> me like cookies
[23:47] <pedro3005> seidos, actually, something weird
[23:47] <tenach> MadameTock, makes some epic cookies.
[23:47] <seidos> pedro3005, ?
[23:47] <pedro3005> seidos, camus criticized science on myth of sisyphus
[23:48] <seidos> pedro3005, that figures
[23:48] <seidos> pedro3005, I think I was reading something you sent me about how all science ends up become metaphor and thus doesn't solve ultimately solve the existential problem
[23:48] <seidos> *becoming
[23:49] <seidos> -solve
[23:49] <seidos> man I need to check what I write before I press enter
[23:49] <seidos> atrocious
[23:49] <tenach> ZachK_, got your email but haven't emailed you back re: the wiki FG
[23:49] <pedro3005> "That way, the science which should teach me everything ends in hypothesis, the dark consciousness ends in a metaphor, the uncertain resolves itself in a work of art"
[23:50] <pedro3005> my translation isn't the best
[23:50] <pedro3005> something amongst these lines
[23:50] <seidos> how does he know the science which should teach everything ends in hypothesis?
[23:50] <seidos> is it because it's impossible to learn enough science to resolve the existential predicament?
[23:51] <pedro3005> seidos, science IS hypothetical
[23:51] <seidos> pedro3005, well it is and it isn't.  experimentation makes it real
[23:52] <pedro3005> but, in my opinion, that is the only path to true knowledge; it is preposterous to think that there is some way to know all
[23:52] <seidos> it does indeed seem preposterous
[23:52] <pedro3005> seidos, we may be misinterpreting him.
[23:53] <pedro3005> seidos, also, he talked about a contradiction in existence.. it was hard to follow
[23:53] <seidos> pedro3005, that's true, he was around way before us.  who knows what he actually believed
[23:53] <seidos> hmmm a contradiction in existence doesn't surprise me.  reminds me of taoism
[23:53] <seidos> philosophy is paled by science
[23:54] <seidos> from science we have things like the refrigerator and the dishwasher, things that actually help improve the quality of life.
[23:54] <seidos> but what about philosophy?  all we have is existential angst.  I'm losing faith in philosophy
[23:54] <pedro3005> seidos, he says that when thought reflects upon itself, it meets a contradiction. then he mentions it is useless to state it again, then quoting Aristotle
[23:55] <seidos> I'm not sure what that means
[23:55] <seidos> "when thought reflects upon itself"
[23:55] <seidos> thought reflecting upon itself reminds me of meditation
[23:59] <pedro3005> "The consequence, many times ridiculed, of these opinions is that they destroy themselves. For by affirming everything is true, we confirm the truth of the opposite affirmation and in consequence the falseness of our own thesis(for the opposite affirmation does not admit itself being true). And if we say all is false, this affirmation also reveals itself as false. If we declare that only the affirmation opposite to ours or only ours is
[23:59] <pedro3005> not false, we are still made to admit an infinite number of truthful or false statements. For he that pronounces a truthful statement, pronounces at the same time that itself is true, ad infinitum."
[23:59] <pedro3005> seidos, ^