[03:09] <davep> Mar 31 02:02:55 grub-installer: info: Running chroot /target grub-install  --no-floppy "hd1"
[03:10] <davep> Mar 31 02:02:55 grub-installer: grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub.
[03:10] <davep> hey guys, did anyone actually test the minimal (net) installer?
[03:11] <cody-somerville> probably not
[03:11] <davep> the grub installer is broken, the lilo installer is broken
[08:53] <saispo> hi
[08:55] <saispo> cjwatson: have you plan to update the hardy kernel on the installer to the latest version (-27) because there is some problem with latest server and dvd/sas controlleur which not work with the 8.04.4 kernel (-26) ?
[09:08] <ev> cjwatson: nice catch on 551947
[09:21] <ev> rgreening: thanks for the update!  In the future could you use dch -U to update the changelog so that it wraps properly?
[09:53] <cjwatson> saispo: mm, I should, shouldn't I
[09:54] <cjwatson> ev: I can't claim any great inspiration - I just trudged through the code line by line against the partman and debug logs until I ran across the problem.  Probably should have spotted it more quickly than that :-/
[09:55] <CIA-3> debian-installer: cjwatson * r945 hardy-proposed/ (9 files in 4 dirs): Move to 2.6.24-27 kernels.
[09:55] <ev> :)
[09:55] <saispo> cjwatson: ok ;-)
[10:01] <CIA-3> debian-installer: cjwatson * r946 hardy-proposed/debian/changelog: releasing version 20070308ubuntu40.14
[10:08] <saispo> cjwatson: thanks
[11:01] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r4019 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/ubi-console-setup.py):
[11:01] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Accept and discard arguments to the KDE frontend's
[11:01] <CIA-3> ubiquity: on_keyboard_layout_selected function (LP: #552399).
[11:01] <ev> ^ not sure how that ever worked in the first place.
[11:13] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r4020 ubiquity/ubiquity/components/ubi-console-setup.py: Another missing *args for the previous commit.
[12:43] <cjwatson> I like the style of the new slideshow!
[12:52] <ev> cjwatson: 20100331?
[12:53] <cjwatson> yesterday's I think
[12:53] <ev> (I've had to modify it slightly to fit better and to accommodate the rigidity of metacity, but 20100331 has the update, albeit with the not setting the right color behind the progress bar bug)
[12:53] <ev> ah, cool
[12:53] <cjwatson> I'm skirting the edge of my download allowance for the month, so trying not to rsync stuff today
[12:54] <ev> michaelforrest: ^ your and Dylan's work gets another compliment :)
[12:54] <ev> allowance?  I didn't realize there were any broadband providers in the UK that did that, outside of 3G.
[12:56] <cjwatson> Zen; it's a fairly generous cap and normally not a problem, except that I had to rebuild my Debian mirror this month following a disk failure
[12:56] <michaelforrest> wow
[12:56] <cjwatson> I can pay for extra if I need to, but don't particularly want to :)
[12:57] <ev> heh
[13:56] <ev> cjwatson: given your suggestion of using changelogs.ubuntu.com for this, does this URL look reasonable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/407042/ ?  I still have to talk to IS about getting access.
[13:58] <cjwatson> ev: won't work behind proxies of course, but there's probably not much to be done about that.  Looks OK to me
[13:58] <cjwatson> ev: check with Scott that the Upstart job doesn't have any hidden gotchas?
[13:59] <ev> will do, thanks
[14:34] <ev> (14:01:27) Scott James Remnant: you'll miss events with that
[14:34] <ev> (14:01:33) Scott James Remnant: if an interface comes up while your wget is running
[14:34] <ev> (14:02:12) Evan Dandrea: hm
[14:34] <ev> (14:04:09) Scott James Remnant: the alternative would mean you had multiple concurrent wgets that might give different answers
[14:34] <ev> (14:04:16) Scott James Remnant: so would be simultaneously creating and removing files/directories
[14:34] <ev> (14:05:31) Evan Dandrea: right
[14:34] <ev> (14:14:02) Evan Dandrea: could I involve watershed to solve that?
[14:34] <ev> (14:14:30) Scott James Remnant: yes, but not from an upstart job
[14:34] <ev> (14:14:51) Scott James Remnant: given u6y is a gui app, why aren't you using NM and D-Bus for this?
[14:34] <ev> (14:16:12) Evan Dandrea: my initial concern was the wget call blocking for an undefined amount of time
[14:35] <ev> so yeah, back to the drawing board
[14:42] <cjwatson> NM wouldn't work in only-ubiquity mode
[14:42] <ev> I thought that, but checking a live CD here, it's listening on DBus when in only-ubiquity mode.
[14:43] <cjwatson> ah
[14:43] <cjwatson> GNU wget has a timeout option IIRC
[14:45] <ev> so NM for state, and then an asynchronous call to wget for checking Internet access?
[14:45] <ev> just trying to think up how we avoid missing events with that as well
[14:47] <ev> I'm clearly missing the obvious.  Time to clear my head with a sandwich.
[14:47]  * ev lunches
[15:57] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4021 common-split/ (19 files in 4 dirs):
[15:57] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Move many of the files in ubiquity to a new ubiquity-common package.
[15:57] <CIA-3> ubiquity: oem-config can now depend on this rather than on ubiquity, significantly
[15:57] <CIA-3> ubiquity: lightening its dependencies.
[16:01] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4021 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py): Fix pkgsel/ignore-incomplete-language-support check (LP: #527623).
[16:06] <CIA-3> pkgsel: cjwatson * r157 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog postinst):
[16:06] <CIA-3> pkgsel: Install language-selector's update-notifier hook only after marking
[16:06] <CIA-3> pkgsel: other pending update notifications as seen (LP: #527623).
[16:07] <CIA-3> pkgsel: cjwatson * r158 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.25ubuntu6
[16:08] <CIA-3> partman-auto-lvm: cjwatson * r228 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog lib/auto-lvm.sh):
[16:08] <CIA-3> partman-auto-lvm: Ensure that we're in an appropriate subdirectory of $DEVICES when
[16:08] <CIA-3> partman-auto-lvm: decoding the recipe (LP: #538536).
[16:09] <CIA-3> partman-auto-lvm: cjwatson * r229 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 33ubuntu3
[16:12] <CIA-3> partman-auto: cjwatson * r310 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog lib/recipes.sh):
[16:12] <CIA-3> partman-auto: Ignore $iflabel{ } specifiers if we aren't in a subdirectory of $DEVICES
[16:12] <CIA-3> partman-auto: when decoding the recipe (LP: #538536).
[16:13] <CIA-3> partman-auto: cjwatson * r311 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 89ubuntu4
[16:29] <CIA-3> partman-ext3: cjwatson * r762 ubuntu/ (70 files in 3 dirs):
[16:29] <CIA-3> partman-ext3: Warn when reformatting an existing misaligned partition for use as
[16:29] <CIA-3> partman-ext3: ext3/ext4, since it will result in poor performance and this is about
[16:29] <CIA-3> partman-ext3: the only sensible opportunity to fix it (LP: #530071).
[16:32] <CIA-3> partman-ext3: cjwatson * r763 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 58ubuntu2
[16:33] <cjwatson> ev: so, Kashmir - what's happening?
[16:36] <ev> cjwatson: I know Ken was working on it as I had to help him with a 7z archive the reporter sent.  I'll get in touch with him now to see where the final changes stand.
[16:38] <cjwatson> ev: thanks.  And do I remember correctly that you said that your only_this_page decorator would fix bug 539827?
[16:39] <ev> cjwatson: I hope it will.  Following up on that bug report now asking them to try 20100331.
[16:57] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4022 ubiquity/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
[16:57] <CIA-3> ubiquity: * KDE frontend:
[16:57] <CIA-3> ubiquity:  - Ensure that entries in extra_bar_frames are never None (LP: #536912).
[17:14] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4023 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/kde_components/PartMan.py):
[17:14] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Lock out manual partitioning operations while the partitioning backend
[17:14] <CIA-3> ubiquity: is running (LP: #540203).
[17:18] <cjwatson> shtylman: are you likely to get to bug 540278 soon?
[17:23] <ev> the kde frontend still seems quite slow
[17:35] <shtylman> cjwatson: yea, if not tonight then tomorrow night
[19:02] <shtylman> bug: 552678
[19:02] <shtylman> Bug 552678
[19:02] <shtylman> did something happen to that? it used to be there...
[22:48] <arand> cjwatson: What are the conditions for installing the pae kernels? (Thought I'd put it down in the EnablingPAE wiki entry)
[22:52] <cjwatson> arand: i386 installation, system has more than 3GB of RAM installed, and (for the alternate and desktop CDs) system has working network access during installation
[22:54] <arand> cjwatson: Ok, I just read the karmic-pae-on-dvd bug, so this behaviour is also true for the karmic dvd installed then? but not for the cd?
[22:54] <arand> true for the karmic dvd installed then? but  not for the cd?
[22:55] <arand> sorry, meant to say: Bug #413135 for reference.
[22:55] <cjwatson> generic-pae is on the DVD, so network access isn't needed
[22:55] <cjwatson> but the other conditions still hold true
[22:56] <cjwatson> actually right now I can't remember whether ubiquity will install the PAE kernel if running from the CD and it has network access; it's possible it won't
[22:56] <cjwatson> I'm afraid right now I'm thinking about something completely different
[22:57] <cjwatson> mail me if you want me to investigate in more detail
[23:00] <arand> cjwatson: Ok, it's not of major importance, cheers.
[23:34] <CIA-3> partman-crypto: cjwatson * r694 ubuntu/ (blockdev-keygen debian/changelog):
[23:34] <CIA-3> partman-crypto: Allow preseeding the first passphrase prompt (LP: #546405). (Preseeding
[23:34] <CIA-3> partman-crypto: passphrases for multiple different physical volumes is a whole different
[23:34] <CIA-3> partman-crypto: kettle of fish ...)
[23:36] <CIA-3> partman-crypto: cjwatson * r695 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 40ubuntu2