| almoxarife | I debified the current irssi, I was told to ask here if that is something that can be turned in | 00:25 |
|---|---|---|
| maxb | almoxarife: current irsii is already in lucid | 00:26 |
| maxb | (so no, there's nothing to do) | 00:26 |
| almoxarife | maxb: that's ver 14, I am talking about 15 | 00:27 |
| maxb | huh, #irssi says it's not released yet | 00:28 |
| maxb | http://irssi.org/ agrees | 00:28 |
| maxb | almoxarife: Please try to state complete version numbers, it's confusing otherwise | 00:28 |
| almoxarife | leIrssi 0.8.15-rc1 released <-- that is what I am talking about | 00:29 |
| maxb | It's a release candidate version | 00:30 |
| maxb | gah | 00:31 |
| maxb | annoying parters | 00:32 |
| * ajmitch guesses that answer was not welcome | 00:32 | |
| cnd_mini | I took a look at why the diagnostics package was failing to build, and it appears to need an updated version of libace-dev that's available in debian | 01:14 |
| cnd_mini | do I file a sync request for this? | 01:14 |
| nigelb | I'm trying to run pitivi inside chroot and I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/406640/ Any clues as to how to run the package in chroot and test it? | 03:02 |
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| ScottK | cnd_mini: Yes. | 04:49 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:02 |
| ara | morning dholbach | 08:11 |
| dholbach | hola ara! :) | 08:14 |
| \sh | hey dholbach | 08:14 |
| dholbach | hey \sh | 08:14 |
| dholbach | ¿como estas? how are you guys doing? | 08:15 |
| \sh | tweaking acire to use desktopcouch for snippets + adding snippets dialogs + trying to setup a couchdb on rooty for syncing acire snippets to the world ;) | 08:15 |
| \sh | in summary: trying to make jono even more happy then he already is ;) | 08:17 |
| tick-tock | hi all | 08:39 |
| tick-tock | I'm trying to update a package (following this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate ) | 08:41 |
| tick-tock | and have had a bunch of errors like this: | 08:42 |
| tick-tock | dpkg-source: warning: ignoring deletion of file ... | 08:42 |
| tick-tock | something to worry about? what does it mean? | 08:42 |
| geser | that some files got deleted (presumely on purpose) and that this can't be reflected in the .diff.gz | 08:49 |
| tick-tock | okay thanks. | 09:01 |
| tick-tock | just updated from my ppa and the package built and works fine, so I guess it's all good | 09:02 |
| dutchie | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jshholland/ubuntu/lucid/poppler/backport-anti-alias/+merge/22511 # do I really need to update Makefile.in as well? it builds fine for me... | 10:12 |
| Daviey | dutchie: your branch failed to build for me, at least | 11:33 |
| dutchie | Daviey: seb128 said he'd take care of the automake stuff | 11:33 |
| Daviey | dutchie: ok, cool. | 11:38 |
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| pmcenery | Hello, is anyone working on bug #504224? | 12:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 504224 in mountall "NFS mounts at boot time prevent boot or print spurious errors" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/504224 | 12:04 |
| AnAnt | Hello, could someone sponsor http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plymouth-theme-sabily, it already has been advocated by one person, and also granted FFe in LP #543679 | 12:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 543679 in ubuntu "Add a plymouth theme for sabily" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/543679 | 12:21 |
| asac | hey | 12:48 |
| asac | why is quake3 not in archive anymore? | 12:48 |
| sebner | asac: hrhr, quake3-data seems still present. I guess it got superseeded by openarena?! | 12:51 |
| siretart | asac: you mean, ioquake3? | 12:55 |
| siretart | sebner: I believe the quake3-data was a helping package for downloading the q3 point release from idsoftware.com and prepare things so that you can use the models from your quake3 cd | 12:56 |
| sebner | siretart: seems so :) | 12:57 |
| siretart | asac: any news on the libjs.so mess? | 12:57 |
| asac | siretart: mozjs? | 13:03 |
| asac | no. consider it non existent | 13:04 |
| siretart | asac: you mean I'm imagining #542506? | 13:04 |
| siretart | bug #542506 | 13:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 542506 in gxine "gxine fails to start: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/542506 | 13:04 |
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| siretart | asac? | 13:13 |
| asac | siretart: is there a wrapper script? | 15:39 |
| asac | sarting gxine? | 15:39 |
| asac | starting | 15:39 |
| siretart | asac: there is no wrapper script. /usr/bin/gxine is an executable | 15:51 |
| siretart | asac: but you still haven't answered my question (see last comment in the bug) | 15:52 |
| * asac looks in bug | 15:57 | |
| asac | siretart: answered | 16:01 |
| siretart | asac: so you believe that mozilla breaks API even in libmozjs.so? :-/ | 16:05 |
| siretart | I'll discuss that with darren (gxine upstream) | 16:05 |
| AnAnt | I had to compile Debian's xulrunner package to get libmozjs* packages | 16:06 |
| AnAnt | could someone sponsor http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plymouth-theme-sabily, it already has been advocated by one person, and also granted FFe in LP #543679 | 16:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 543679 in ubuntu "Add a plymouth theme for sabily" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/543679 | 16:07 |
| asac | siretart: they explicitly said that | 16:08 |
| siretart | asac: what happened to the xulrunner package in lucid? | 16:08 |
| asac | siretart: yes, please go upstream and tell them that in the end libmozjs.so is nothing they can use | 16:08 |
| siretart | can't we build libmozjs from that? | 16:08 |
| asac | siretart: that was 1.8 | 16:08 |
| asac | and has about 1000 security issues | 16:08 |
| asac | it was removed (and should have been removed 3 cycles ago) | 16:08 |
| siretart | and, and therefore it got revmoved? | 16:08 |
| siretart | hm bad | 16:08 |
| siretart | well, gxine needs an javascript interpreter | 16:09 |
| asac | so that it was there was just luck | 16:09 |
| asac | siretart: yes, its a bad situation | 16:09 |
| siretart | will the same happen in debian as well? | 16:09 |
| asac | i think the gnome js is the only one | 16:09 |
| siretart | what's about 'gnome js'? | 16:09 |
| asac | siretart: not sure. debian likes to fly without eyes | 16:09 |
| asac | apparently | 16:09 |
| AnAnt | gnome js ? | 16:10 |
| siretart | does gnome ship their own js interpreter? | 16:10 |
| asac | or mike things he can unbreak ABI/API which imo only two guys could do that are hired by moz | 16:10 |
| asac | siretart: it hink libseed or something | 16:10 |
| asac | so seems they use webkit | 16:10 |
| asac | that probably has other issues | 16:11 |
| AnAnt | is that SEE ? | 16:11 |
| asac | because webkit is not security maintainable ;) | 16:11 |
| siretart | asac: why not? | 16:11 |
| asac | but i dont care. so yeah. gong there is better than libmozjs that explicitly stated they dont want to | 16:11 |
| asac | siretart: talk to security team ;) | 16:11 |
| siretart | asac: I'm asking you | 16:11 |
| asac | siretart: they dont provide backported patches and its quite intransparent | 16:12 |
| asac | didnt look on my own. just what heard from security team | 16:12 |
| siretart | and how is that worse to mozilla? | 16:12 |
| asac | not worse. | 16:12 |
| asac | so yeah. go there | 16:12 |
| asac | in the end someone needs to write a js lib that is stable and slow | 16:13 |
| asac | (given that its understood that you cannot make a lib that keeps up with the current speed requirements that is fast) | 16:13 |
| asac | at least both moz and google say that | 16:13 |
| asac | so yes. i have no solution and it sucks | 16:13 |
| asac | the only thing i can tell folks is to stop adapting js | 16:13 |
| asac | use something else | 16:13 |
| AnAnt | asac: this xulrunner issue is getting on your nerves | 16:14 |
| asac | but not javascript if you want to ship your software seriously | 16:14 |
| asac | if you would ask me we should remove everything that uses it | 16:14 |
| siretart | well, it's pretty sad that gxine is in such a miserable state right now :/ | 16:14 |
| asac | so upstreams finally notice that and complain on their own | 16:14 |
| asac | siretart: sure. but we fix it and noone will go and complain | 16:14 |
| asac | if you want to fix it use the LD_LIBRARY_PATH | 16:14 |
| asac | trick | 16:14 |
| siretart | asac: you broke, you fix ;-) | 16:15 |
| asac | thats the only way you can workaround all the walls we built to prevent folks using those libs | 16:15 |
| asac | i dont want the lib to be used | 16:15 |
| AnAnt | asac: I did another thing, I used rpath, is that bad ? | 16:15 |
| asac | AnAnt: yes, that doesnt work | 16:15 |
| asac | read the gxine bug wherei explained it | 16:15 |
| AnAnt | asac: it worked for elinks | 16:15 |
| asac | AnAnt: right. until we do a security update | 16:16 |
| AnAnt | but LD_LIBRARY_PATH might be a neater solution anyways | 16:16 |
| asac | then its dead | 16:16 |
| asac | AnAnt: dont use it | 16:16 |
| asac | otherwise it will break every other month | 16:17 |
| AnAnt | asac: yes, you are right | 16:17 |
| asac | AnAnt: i told you that rpath is not going to work | 16:17 |
| asac | ;) | 16:17 |
| asac | why did you still go for it? | 16:17 |
| asac | anyway in customer meeting | 16:17 |
| asac | will be back next week from this trip | 16:17 |
| AnAnt | asac: you did ? I must have left before I read your reply | 16:18 |
| AnAnt | asac: anyways, I gave up the whole thing, compiled Debian's xulrunner package to get libmozjs* packages, and compiled against those | 16:18 |
| asac | AnAnt: and then? this thing doesnt run on ubuntu ;) | 16:18 |
| AnAnt | asac: I find it crazy that elinks would have to depend on libxulrunner and all the libs that it depends on | 16:18 |
| soren | I have a package that from upstream is versioned as 1.0a5. I've changed that to 1.0~a5 in my package version so that a final 1.0 will supersede it, but uscan doesn't know this so it insists that 1.0a5 is newer. Does anyone have any tricks up their sleeve to work around this? | 16:18 |
| AnAnt | asac: it does | 16:19 |
| asac | siretart: i really tried a bunch of stuff and tried to fix the situation. without upstream complaining that they cannot be shipped in distros nothing will change | 16:19 |
| AnAnt | soren: mangle | 16:19 |
| AnAnt | opts=dversionmangle=s/~// | 16:19 |
| soren | AnAnt: Ah, neat. Thanks. | 16:20 |
| AnAnt | oh, finally I am a DM | 16:21 |
| siretart | asac: I rather meant the lack of information/coordination with libmozjs users. darren and I were pretty surprised about this move... | 16:24 |
| mr_pouit | (well, it's probably written in an obscure wiki page) | 16:25 |
| AnAnt | asac: by compiling Debian's xulrunner (1.9.1) on lucid, it would work | 16:27 |
| AnAnt | asac: but I can't ship the package on Ubuntu repos of course | 16:27 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Would you please give http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plymouth-theme-sabily a review. I'm glad to do the New for it, but really shouldn't if I was part of getting it sponsored. | 16:50 |
| nixternal | ScottK: looking at it now | 16:54 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Thanks. | 16:54 |
| ScottK | AnAnt: ^^^ | 16:54 |
| AnAnt | thanks | 16:54 |
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| asac | oops | 18:07 |
| asac | siretart: what would you suggest wrt coordination with libmozjs users? | 18:07 |
| jcastro | hyperair: woo, it's banshee 1.6 day! | 18:07 |
| asac | siretart: i tried to talk to all those that are currently in main | 18:08 |
| asac | siretart: feedback i got from those was usually - EDONTCARE because it works ;) | 18:08 |
| asac | like couchdb folks | 18:08 |
| asac | they say this problem will be resolved on its own and they dont care | 18:08 |
| siretart | asac: so couchdb links to libmozjs. so as well? What do they do? use LD_LIBRARY_PATH or rpath? | 18:21 |
| siretart | I've suggested darren now to ship a private copy of libmozjs | 18:22 |
| asac | siretart: LD_LIB | 18:27 |
| asac | couchdb | 18:27 |
| asac | siretart: if the js is not exposed to any remote content thats ok (e.g. ship your own js/ source tree and spin it) | 18:27 |
| AnAnt | asac: so you talked with Debian guys about libmozjs* ? | 18:28 |
| asac | AnAnt: i think i did it once. but not recently. no | 18:29 |
| asac | i have that on the list to raise with security team etc. | 18:29 |
| asac | should do that soon | 18:30 |
| AnAnt | ok | 18:32 |
| AnAnt | it would be great to reduce the diff between Debian's & Ubuntu's xulrunner package | 18:33 |
| AnAnt | nixternal: thanks, I added some info to extended description & re-uploaded | 18:35 |
| AnAnt | nixternal: could you upload now ? | 18:36 |
| ScottK | nixternal: If you would upload it, I can do the New processing. | 18:39 |
| nixternal | one sec | 18:45 |
| mok0 | Riddell: I haven't reported a bug. | 18:46 |
| nixternal | AnAnt: between 'design.' and the next line, you need to add a ' .' to separate the lines | 18:47 |
| mok0 | Riddell: (django on jaunty is totally outdated) | 18:47 |
| Riddell | mok0: then I have nothing to work on in deciding if I should let it in, I need to see the rationale, the testing and the backports team approval | 18:48 |
| mok0 | Riddell: It works w/o problems for me, I've used it a couple of months | 18:49 |
| mok0 | Riddell: you really want a bug, or can I answer here | 18:49 |
| ScottK | mok0: Do the bug. The paper trail is good to have. | 18:50 |
| mok0 | ScottK, oh, those are surprising words coming from you ;-) | 18:50 |
| ScottK | mok0: Yeah, but we've had problems with backports before, so it's good to be clear. | 18:50 |
| soren | I've created new package. lintian suggested I use this new-fangled 3.0 (quilt) format, so I did. The tarball from upstream is such that doing the clean makes a few changes to some of the files. In the past I could just happily ignore that and leave that delta in the diff.gz. | 18:54 |
| soren | ...but now I have to justify it by filling in all those patch tag field things. | 18:54 |
| soren | ...and I have no clue what to put. | 18:55 |
| soren | http://www.linux2go.dk/cloudservers/ for the actual stuff. | 18:56 |
| ScottK | You don't HAVE to. | 18:56 |
| soren | Well... No. But my trying to weasel out of it is so much more obvious this way :) | 18:57 |
| geser | soren: just looking at your control file: don't you need X(S|B)-Python-Version? or does it work now without it? | 18:59 |
| ScottK | If it's a Python package it should have those. | 18:59 |
| ScottK | There are defaults if they are missing, but better to be explicit. | 19:00 |
| soren | geser: It complained about them when they were there. | 19:00 |
| soren | It said that was deprecated. | 19:00 |
| soren | ...and that I should use pyversions if I wanted a specific version. I don't. | 19:00 |
| ScottK | soren: They aren't. It's an odd situation. | 19:00 |
| ScottK | If you use pyversions it'll complain about that too. | 19:01 |
| soren | Yes, I noticed. | 19:01 |
| ScottK | X(S|B)-Python-Version is preferred since it's python helper independent. pyversions is python support only. | 19:01 |
| soren | Alright. | 19:01 |
| * soren adds them back | 19:01 | |
| soren | "/usr/share/cdbs/1/class/python-distutils.mk:68: WARNING: Use of XS-Python-Version and XB-Python-Version fields in debian/control is deprecated with pysupport method; use debian/pyversions if you need to specify specific versions." | 19:02 |
| soren | ...is what I get. | 19:02 |
| soren | Is that wrong? | 19:03 |
| mok0 | Riddell, ScottK: bug 552721 | 19:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 552721 in jaunty-backports "Please backport django_1.1.1 from karmic" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/552721 | 19:03 |
| soren | ScottK: ^ Do you know? If it is, do you see any reason why I shouldn't fix cdbs to not warn about this?= | 19:04 |
| ScottK | soren: I think it's probably not worth additional diff from Debian, but other than that, no. | 19:05 |
| ScottK | Generally, I'd suggest just skipping CDBS and using DH7. | 19:06 |
| soren | I have a package that POX reviewed for me (a few months ago). It does not have XS-Python-Version. | 19:06 |
| soren | ScottK: I happen to like cdbs :) | 19:06 |
| soren | It does have XB-Python-Version, though. | 19:06 |
| geser | soren: btw I tried to build your package, it FTBFS: "dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to python-cloudservers-1.0~a5/distribute-0.6.8-py2.6.egg: binary file contents changed", "dpkg-source: error: add distribute-0.6.8-py2.6.egg in debian/source/include-binaries if you want to store the modified binary in the debian tarball" | 19:07 |
| soren | geser: Yeah. | 19:08 |
| Riddell | mok0: accepted (I don't know if there are new binaries in there, if so they'll get stuck in new, feel free to poke me to accept them too) | 19:09 |
| mok0 | Riddell: I didn't fiddle with the packages | 19:10 |
| mok0 | Riddell: (binary packages that is) | 19:10 |
| mok0 | Riddell: thanks | 19:10 |
| soren | geser: Uh... | 19:14 |
| merbit | Hello, is anyone willing to take over bug #538773 ? some packages still depend on python-gtkhtml2, which was dropped: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/g/gnome-python-extras/gnome-python-extras_2.25.3-4.1ubuntu3/changelog | 19:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 538773 in pida "Please remove python-gtkhtml2 from package dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/538773 | 19:14 |
| soren | geser: No, actually, I had /not/ seen that before. When do you see this? | 19:14 |
| geser | soren: inside my lucid pbuilder | 19:15 |
| soren | odd. | 19:15 |
| soren | I can both build binary and source. No problems. | 19:16 |
| geser | soren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/407188/ | 19:16 |
| soren | (Not tried in a chroot, though) | 19:16 |
| geser | hmm, "Downloading http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/d/distribute/distribute-0.6.8.tar.gz | 19:17 |
| soren | Ah, right. | 19:17 |
| soren | This is still work in progress. I haven't enumerated all the dependencies yet. | 19:17 |
| soren | (There's a bunch!) | 19:18 |
| geser | you should at least add python-setuptools to Build-Depends(-Indep) | 19:19 |
| soren | Sure, sure. | 19:19 |
| soren | I was just stumped by the patch tagging thing. It's far from done yet. | 19:19 |
| AnAnt | nixternal: yes thanks, re-uploaded now | 19:32 |
| nigelb | can someone please sponsor bug 314885 before the beta freeze? | 19:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 314885 in pitivi "Don't show version number in titlebar" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/314885 | 19:35 |
| nigelb | oh wait, its in main now | 19:36 |
| IntuitiveNipple | I'm creating a new package and have questions about which copyrights from the source to include in debian/copyright. Many seem to relate to autotools/m4/libtools and other helper scripts included in the source. The grep result is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/407231/ ...can anyone assist? | 21:07 |
| sebner | IntuitiveNipple: you can ignore all of the non-source copyright (makefiles etc) | 21:14 |
| IntuitiveNipple | sebner: How about translations, and I note, the source includes gnulib/ ? | 21:18 |
| sebner | IntuitiveNipple: only source, *all* source of the tarball | 21:19 |
| IntuitiveNipple | sebner: OK, so that means include the FSF copyrights to gnulib. Thanks. | 21:22 |
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