| Sarvatt | not worried about the sauce at all, i'd end up pulling nouveau drm-radeon-testing and drm-intel-next into it each time probably anyway :D | 00:00 |
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| Sarvatt | oh sweet, good post on the kernel update procedure on the kernel-team list now | 00:07 |
| RAOF | Hooray! Nouveau on PPC | 00:19 |
| Sarvatt | funny we got nouveau there but radeon KMS still isn't enabled (last I looked) :D | 00:20 |
| Sarvatt | been using radeon KMS on my powerpc machine since jaunty | 00:20 |
| Sarvatt | ok the blob is *totally* busted for me right now | 01:11 |
| Sarvatt | plus nv absolutely does not work on nv50+ with novueau KMS in use, I think you're lucky you're on NV40 RAOF :) | 01:12 |
| RAOF | Sarvatt: Hm. I thought I'd *tried* that on my nv96. Maybe I didn't :) | 01:12 |
| Sarvatt | i get a screen full of lovely colored ansi characters no matter what I do with nv, forgot I had xserver-xorg-video-nouveau purged before | 01:12 |
| Sarvatt | activating compiz with the blob completely kills the system here, corruption all over the place and sysrq keys dont even work | 01:14 |
| RAOF | :( | 01:14 |
| Sarvatt | it kind of worked without compiz, i got black horizontal line corruption all over the notification area, and indicator-applet-session icons | 01:15 |
| Sarvatt | no idea what killed it, updated with the past 3 days worth of updates and rebooted and the wifes laptop was completely messed up :D nothing in the logs, should have tried the -17 kernel again before i purged it | 01:16 |
| RAOF | That's not very promising; what card is that? | 01:16 |
| Sarvatt | 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation G86 [GeForce 8400M GS] [10de:0427] (rev a1) | 01:17 |
| Sarvatt | Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:30cf] | 01:17 |
| Sarvatt | dang, g-p-m is constantly dying and respawning still | 01:17 |
| RAOF | That's not even a particularly crazy card. | 01:19 |
| Sarvatt | nope one of the more common laptop GPU's | 01:21 |
| Sarvatt | was one step up from integrated for a long time :D | 01:21 |
| johanbr | I have that card and it's working fine with the blob | 01:21 |
| johanbr | (on lucid) | 01:21 |
| Sarvatt | how recently did you reboot? | 01:21 |
| johanbr | yesterday | 01:22 |
| Sarvatt | i'll try reinstalling it now that I actually got back into the desktop :D | 01:22 |
| Sarvatt | hmm, should nvidia-current call update-initramfs on removal? imagine that novueau blacklist is still in the initrd | 01:23 |
| RAOF | Sarvatt: Yes, it should. | 01:24 |
| Sarvatt | sheesh, 50% battery used in about 30 minutes of text mode and 10 minutes of having a desktop up with nouveau | 01:28 |
| Sarvatt | nvidia-current won't install :D | 01:35 |
| Sarvatt | 2010-03-30 20:30:05,913 DEBUG: XorgDriverHandler device sections ({0: ['\tIdentifier\t"Default Device"\n', '\tDriver\t"nvidia"\n']}) | 01:35 |
| RAOF | You're rather at the mercy of the bios' default settings. | 01:35 |
| RAOF | My nv96 (+ intel) netbook doesn't sap power particularly with nouveau. Power management support would be nice, though! | 01:36 |
| Sarvatt | think the nvidia/jockey stuff is messed up with xorg.conf.d | 01:36 |
| Sarvatt | yepyep just installed xserver-xorg-core (2:1.7.6-2ubuntu1) and can't activate the blob | 01:38 |
| Sarvatt | err, well it installed but gave the error and said it failed, it did install the /etc/X11/xorg.conf though | 01:39 |
| Sarvatt | tjaalton: no xorg.conf.d directory getting installed | 01:58 |
| Sarvatt | had to add my own inputclass stuff to xorg.conf, that was my problem | 01:59 |
| RAOF | Anyone want to sponsor an upload for G200EH support to x-x-v-mga? | 02:01 |
| bryceh | RAOF, hit me | 02:18 |
| RAOF | git+ssh://git.debian.org/git/pkg-xorg/driver/xserver-xorg-video-mga | 02:18 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, btw if you can associate lp bug #'s with any of those redhat patches you emailed me, it would be a huge help | 02:18 |
| bryceh | RAOF, mind doing a debdiff? | 02:19 |
| RAOF | Not at all. | 02:19 |
| bryceh | actually nevermind, I got the git tree | 02:21 |
| RAOF | Well, and there's a debdiff attached to the bug now :) | 02:21 |
| bryceh | RAOF, upload sponsored | 02:25 |
| RAOF | bryceh: Thanks! | 02:25 |
| Sarvatt | ahh ok the evdev rules were in xserver-xorg-input-evdev, no wonder I didnt have any | 02:28 |
| Sarvatt | should put a BIG warning somewhere not to update packages yet because things are broken :) | 02:29 |
| Sarvatt | i did a catchall evdev InputClass section in my nvidia xorg.conf to catch all /dev/input/event devices and that totally screws up the blob | 02:29 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, the trace on bug #532530 looks extremely familiar to me but I can't place it... do you recognize it? | 02:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 532530 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i815] Segmentation fault at address (nil)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532530 | 02:39 |
| bryceh | wasn't there a mess of bugs involving libpixman in their backtrace? | 02:39 |
| Sarvatt | the ones i was looking at were all with the blob continuing rendering after a VT switch and screwing up, thats a different one.. wish that person would attach the real logs instead of a tarball of /var/log/ | 02:42 |
| bryceh | yeah I know | 02:43 |
| Sarvatt | ahh crap - <tjaalton> [17:39:04] -looks like it'll take hours before the xserver is published on the main archs, so I'll upload the drivers in the morning.. | 03:01 |
| Sarvatt | well I'm passing around this link for people that already upgraded and need to reboot.. http://sarvatt.com/downloads/xorg.conf.d/ | 03:02 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, maybe mail that to ubuntu-devel@ | 03:03 |
| Sarvatt | bryceh: sorry I was swamped there trying to fix the wifes machine, you know how it goes I'm sure :D responding to your patch mail now | 03:41 |
| bryceh | heh yep | 03:46 |
| bryceh | meanwhile I've gotten the -ati .192 merge done | 03:46 |
| bryceh | several nice fixes in it | 03:47 |
| bryceh | one thing I'm unsure about though - it has a conf from debian to enable kms, but not sure if that's going to interfere with our kms enablement | 03:47 |
| bryceh | guessing it won't | 03:48 |
| Sarvatt | that EXA backport was totally just me saying I'm doing it in xorg-edgers | 03:48 |
| Sarvatt | no reason to install that, just revert http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-xorg/driver/xserver-xorg-video-ati.git;a=commit;h=f62daf71011a40aa37802b6abd726b731985174b | 03:49 |
| bryceh | rats I *just* uploaded it | 03:52 |
| bryceh | well, I don't think it's going to hurt anything | 03:54 |
| Sarvatt | bryceh: can you release http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-xorg/driver/xserver-xorg-input-evdev.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ubuntu and http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-xorg/driver/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ubuntu ? | 04:45 |
| Sarvatt | xserver is borked at the moment, the old udev rules aren't working for me at least and theres no xorg.conf.d snippets to load the drivers without those | 04:46 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: whaat? things busted? | 05:11 |
| tjaalton | sigh, thought I tested that | 05:14 |
| tjaalton | anyway, evdev & synaptics uploaded | 05:14 |
| Sarvatt | yeah things were totally busted on upgrade and reboot here, maybe because I had a nvidia xorg.conf already? | 05:15 |
| Sarvatt | sweet! thanks tjaalton | 05:15 |
| tjaalton | hmm, dunno.. maybe | 05:15 |
| tjaalton | right, 5-7h queue | 05:16 |
| tjaalton | should've just uploaded them earlier | 05:17 |
| Sarvatt | tjaalton: yeah we dont have snippets loading the quirks for those tags, those mini 10v's need quirking | 05:32 |
| Sarvatt | doh nevermind yes you did that already! | 05:32 |
| tjaalton | untested, but I think they should work.. | 05:32 |
| Sarvatt | sounds like it worked for him at least! would be nice to figure out why it broke so badly here | 05:34 |
| tjaalton | hmm, and seems to work here too | 05:35 |
| tjaalton | yeah :) | 05:37 |
| tjaalton | *phew* | 05:37 |
| Sarvatt | working here on 2 of my other machines too, just the laptop with the blob had major trouble | 05:40 |
| tjaalton | got a log? | 05:41 |
| Sarvatt | i stupidly overwrote the one i was trying to save from the first failed boot | 05:42 |
| tjaalton | well you should be able to reproduce it by moving xorg.conf.d away? | 05:42 |
| Sarvatt | you're right, will do that in the morning, wifes using that laptop now | 05:47 |
| tjaalton | and it failed to start? | 05:48 |
| tjaalton | the symptom should be that there was no mouse/kbd | 05:48 |
| Sarvatt | no mouse/keyboard yeah | 05:50 |
| tjaalton | alright then | 05:51 |
| tjaalton | well, no-one uses the blob anyway.. oh, wait | 05:51 |
| tjaalton | :) | 05:51 |
| Sarvatt | if i could just force nouveau to use the lowest performance state always i'd never look back :) | 05:53 |
| Sarvatt | whoops - make[3]: *** No rule to make target `wcmTilt2Rotation.lo', needed by `wacom_drv.la'. Stop | 06:13 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: you need to run autoreconf firtst | 06:14 |
| tjaalton | first | 06:14 |
| Sarvatt | yeah i remember you having that problem the other day and i still forgot :D | 06:23 |
| tjaalton | the package is a mess.. | 06:24 |
| tjaalton | too bad ron won't like the idea of running autoreconf on build | 06:25 |
| tjaalton | *doesn't | 06:25 |
| tjaalton | thinking about forking it properly, but maybe not :) | 06:25 |
| Sarvatt | lp:ubuntu/xf86-input-wacom maybe? :) | 06:39 |
| Sarvatt | (since he doesn't want it in pkg-xorg?) | 06:40 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: nah, pkg-xorg is fine, even if he'd maintain it in his own repo | 07:05 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: edgers needs to merge the xorg-server changes, or people using the edgers version will end up with no kbd/mouse :) | 10:23 |
| tjaalton | asac: what's up with the armel buildd's? every build that generates a dbgsym-package fails | 10:26 |
| tjaalton | asac: and for instance xorg-server failed to build because of that | 10:33 |
| tjaalton | asac: hmm, it might be ok now.. | 10:35 |
| tjaalton | asac: right, false alarm.. it's built now :) | 10:35 |
| tjaalton | there, evtouch and joystick uploaded | 10:52 |
| tjaalton | hum, joystick rejected, need to fakesync it | 10:53 |
| tjaalton | there | 10:55 |
| tseliot | Sarvatt: would you like to test my nvidia-settings with -173? | 15:09 |
| asac | tjaalton: our builders are unfortunately not stable ... retrying a few times helps often | 15:42 |
| asac | we are in process of adding new builders .... so there is hope | 15:42 |
| tseliot | jcristau: do you know if/where XSERVER_LIBPCIACCESS is defined in xserver 1.7.x? | 15:53 |
| tjaalton | asac: oh ok. i was just worried that the xserver didn't build the first time, but then noticed that it was retried and succeeded | 15:53 |
| * jcristau hands grep to tseliot | 15:53 | |
| tseliot | jcristau: I did that already | 15:54 |
| jcristau | then you have your answer | 15:54 |
| tseliot | ok, it's not defined then | 15:55 |
| jcristau | wrong. | 15:55 |
| tseliot | libpciaccess-dev is installed here | 15:57 |
| tseliot | and here it says that it should be defined in xorg-server.h: http://www.x.org/wiki/PciReworkHowto | 15:58 |
| jcristau | s/should be/is/ | 15:59 |
| tseliot | I don't have any xorg-server.h here | 16:00 |
| tseliot | never mind, I was convinced that xserver-xorg-dev was already installed | 16:01 |
| tedg | Hey guys. We're trying to bind to Super+Esc but can't seem to. | 16:52 |
| tedg | I can't find an application doing that. | 16:52 |
| tedg | Is that a key combo that X is grabbing? | 16:52 |
| Sarvatt | tjaalton: http://pastebin.com/nxnnfP4p -- should we just be matching event devices in synaptics too? | 16:53 |
| Sarvatt | btw tseliot did you see the problem I had last night trying to activate the blob? Jockey says it fails to activate (even though it activates fine) if I try to activate it - 2010-03-30 20:30:05,913 DEBUG: XorgDriverHandler device sections ({0: ['\tIdentifier\t"Default Device"\n', '\tDriver\t"nvidia"\n']}) | 16:56 |
| tseliot | Sarvatt: can I see the full log and your xorg.conf, please? | 16:57 |
| Sarvatt | not sure if you know whats up with that, just started since the xorg.conf.d xserver | 16:57 |
| Sarvatt | let me see if my wife left that machine on for me to ssh into, one sec | 16:58 |
| Sarvatt | there was no xorg.conf at the time, it still created one though but it said the process failed | 16:59 |
| Sarvatt | http://pastebin.com/AJiKWr08 | 17:00 |
| tseliot | Sarvatt: it doesn't say that it failed (at least in the log) | 17:02 |
| Sarvatt | i'll redo it later and get you a screenshot of the gui dialog | 17:06 |
| Sarvatt | the gui said it failed even though it worked | 17:06 |
| tseliot | ok | 17:07 |
| Sarvatt | hmm, evdev is claiming the touchpad for a lot of people without the synaptics upgrade | 17:54 |
| Sarvatt | man, the bug number just does not want to stay under 300 - http://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/X/Reports/ubuntu-x-swat/totals-lucid.svg | 17:58 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, heh | 18:19 |
| bryceh | wow, that's sad, our 'workqueue' stats are just barely below that... http://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/X/Reports/ubuntu-x-swat/totals-lucid-workqueue.svg | 18:20 |
| bryceh | that means almost all the lucid bugs are blocked on us needing to do something with them | 18:21 |
| rickspencer3 | Sarvatt, fyi ... my quirks kicked in as you said | 18:48 |
| rickspencer3 | (after updating today) | 18:48 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks | 18:48 |
| Sarvatt | no worries, tjaalton is the one that did all the work porting the quirks over and deserves the thanks :) glad it worked out though, thanks for the update about it | 18:53 |
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| DBO | is the issue where closing a clutter app == x crash known? | 19:53 |
| Sarvatt | DBO: yep https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/550218 | 20:33 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 550218 in xorg-server "xserver crashes when closing application using clutter" [Medium,Confirmed] | 20:33 |
| Oxymoron | Sarvatt: Hey :) Do you remember my problem before? :P That video output problem ... I wonder it still doesnt work after updated several possible candidates recently and I wonder, do you know which packages that is required for video output in Kaffeine and Dragonplayer for instance? Or if you know any site I can check on? | 21:10 |
| Sarvatt | Oxymoron: I'd suggest starting by googling xine XvShmPutImage nvidia :) | 21:34 |
| Sarvatt | your X error was a BadMatch in the Xvideo extension in XvShmPutImage | 21:35 |
| Sarvatt | Oxymoron: have you tried fiddling with the nvidia-settings control panel Xv options? | 21:36 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: yeah not checking for /dev/input/event* is an oversight, I'll fix it tomorrow | 21:42 |
| Sarvatt | Oxymoron: try seeing if whatever player you're using has a --debug option and run it from a terminal so you can get more info on whats happening | 21:42 |
| Oxymoron | Sarvatt: Smart ideas, thanks man :) And well I havent fiddling around with nvidia-settings | 21:48 |
| bjsnider | i don't think that would really do it, but it's worth a shot | 22:12 |
| bjsnider | what would really help is a new graphics card | 22:12 |
| Oxymoron | bjsnider: You and youre new graphics card talk ... | 22:28 |
| Oxymoron | My Graphic card is perfectly fine ;) | 22:28 |
| Oxymoron | Sarvatt: Hmm interesting output from dragon in command konsole: "" | 22:30 |
| Oxymoron | InotifyFileSystemWatcherEngine::addPaths: inotify_add_watch failed: Filen eller katalogen finns inte | 22:30 |
| Oxymoron | QFileSystemWatcher: failed to add paths: /home/oxymoron/.config/ibus/bus | 22:30 |
| Oxymoron | Bus::open: Can not get ibus-daemon's address. | 22:30 |
| Oxymoron | IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon | 22:30 |
| Sarvatt | Oxymoron: no output giving details on what output method is being used and such? all that stuff isnt related | 22:41 |
| Oxymoron | Sarvatt: How do I retrieve that kind of info then? | 22:41 |
| Sarvatt | you're asking someone who doesn't use KDE.. :) | 22:44 |
| Oxymoron | Sarvatt: Alright, I will ask someone who does :) | 22:47 |
| Sarvatt | Oxymoron: run the player with --help, it'll give you a list of extra options you can use.. | 23:08 |
| Oxymoron | Sarvatt: Yes, but I cant find any debug option parameter in there and not in --help-kde or --help-qt either | 23:10 |
| Oxymoron | Sarvatt: Do you know what ibus is btw? | 23:12 |
| bryceh | merged 2.9.1-3 plus cherrypicks | 23:12 |
| bryceh | (for -intel) | 23:12 |
| Sarvatt | do you really not have a multimedia configuration option in the KDE system menus somewhere? | 23:13 |
| RAOF | Sarvatt, Oxymoron: There certainly is a multimedia configuration option; Look for “Phonon” somewhere . | 23:22 |
| Oxymoron | Sarvatt: No, I tried remove ~/.kde before and problem still persist ... It must be something else. | 23:25 |
| Oxymoron | RAOF: Look for Phonon somewhere? :P More specific please ... Phonon settings in systemsettings isnt anything, but maybe some phonon settings somewhere else though' | 23:26 |
| RAOF | Oxymoron: Phonon settings in systemsettings should be where you're looking. I'm sure there's *something* there :) | 23:27 |
| RAOF | Look for xine engine options. | 23:29 |
| RAOF | Sarvatt: That intel fix has hit lucid-kernel git! Yay! | 23:31 |
| Oxymoron | RAOF: You cant setup anything there, you can only change between gstreamer and xine, no settings at all ... | 23:32 |
| RAOF | There's *definitely* some form of options around in that sort of area; I remember being able to change the deinterlacer used for DVD content, at least... | 23:33 |
| Sarvatt | RAOF: yeah i closed a ton of bugs about it already since the -19 kernel with it has already been uploaded | 23:34 |
| Oxymoron | RAOF: Yeah, but those options are also removed in latest kde ... so cant even change that and those settings isnt worth anything anyway so. | 23:35 |
| Oxymoron | Sarvatt: I ll be damn, I installed ibus restarted xserver and then it worked :D | 23:40 |
| Sarvatt | tell the KDE people that :) | 23:40 |
| Oxymoron | #kde-devel I guess | 23:41 |
| ernstp | my plymouth boot is still flickering a lot | 23:54 |
| ernstp | is everyone elses doing that also? | 23:55 |
| Sarvatt | ernstp: guessing you have a mobilie x1300-x1600 ati gpu? :) | 23:59 |
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