[00:00] not worried about the sauce at all, i'd end up pulling nouveau drm-radeon-testing and drm-intel-next into it each time probably anyway :D [00:07] oh sweet, good post on the kernel update procedure on the kernel-team list now [00:19] Hooray! Nouveau on PPC [00:20] funny we got nouveau there but radeon KMS still isn't enabled (last I looked) :D [00:20] been using radeon KMS on my powerpc machine since jaunty [01:11] ok the blob is *totally* busted for me right now [01:12] plus nv absolutely does not work on nv50+ with novueau KMS in use, I think you're lucky you're on NV40 RAOF :) [01:12] Sarvatt: Hm. I thought I'd *tried* that on my nv96. Maybe I didn't :) [01:12] i get a screen full of lovely colored ansi characters no matter what I do with nv, forgot I had xserver-xorg-video-nouveau purged before [01:14] activating compiz with the blob completely kills the system here, corruption all over the place and sysrq keys dont even work [01:14] :( [01:15] it kind of worked without compiz, i got black horizontal line corruption all over the notification area, and indicator-applet-session icons [01:16] no idea what killed it, updated with the past 3 days worth of updates and rebooted and the wifes laptop was completely messed up :D nothing in the logs, should have tried the -17 kernel again before i purged it [01:16] That's not very promising; what card is that? [01:17] 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation G86 [GeForce 8400M GS] [10de:0427] (rev a1) [01:17] Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:30cf] [01:17] dang, g-p-m is constantly dying and respawning still [01:19] That's not even a particularly crazy card. [01:21] nope one of the more common laptop GPU's [01:21] was one step up from integrated for a long time :D [01:21] I have that card and it's working fine with the blob [01:21] (on lucid) [01:21] how recently did you reboot? [01:22] yesterday [01:22] i'll try reinstalling it now that I actually got back into the desktop :D [01:23] hmm, should nvidia-current call update-initramfs on removal? imagine that novueau blacklist is still in the initrd [01:24] Sarvatt: Yes, it should. [01:28] sheesh, 50% battery used in about 30 minutes of text mode and 10 minutes of having a desktop up with nouveau [01:35] nvidia-current won't install :D [01:35] 2010-03-30 20:30:05,913 DEBUG: XorgDriverHandler device sections ({0: ['\tIdentifier\t"Default Device"\n', '\tDriver\t"nvidia"\n']}) [01:35] You're rather at the mercy of the bios' default settings. [01:36] My nv96 (+ intel) netbook doesn't sap power particularly with nouveau. Power management support would be nice, though! [01:36] think the nvidia/jockey stuff is messed up with xorg.conf.d [01:38] yepyep just installed xserver-xorg-core (2:1.7.6-2ubuntu1) and can't activate the blob [01:39] err, well it installed but gave the error and said it failed, it did install the /etc/X11/xorg.conf though [01:58] tjaalton: no xorg.conf.d directory getting installed [01:59] had to add my own inputclass stuff to xorg.conf, that was my problem [02:01] Anyone want to sponsor an upload for G200EH support to x-x-v-mga? [02:18] RAOF, hit me [02:18] git+ssh://git.debian.org/git/pkg-xorg/driver/xserver-xorg-video-mga [02:18] Sarvatt, btw if you can associate lp bug #'s with any of those redhat patches you emailed me, it would be a huge help [02:19] RAOF, mind doing a debdiff? [02:19] Not at all. [02:21] actually nevermind, I got the git tree [02:21] Well, and there's a debdiff attached to the bug now :) [02:25] RAOF, upload sponsored [02:25] bryceh: Thanks! [02:28] ahh ok the evdev rules were in xserver-xorg-input-evdev, no wonder I didnt have any [02:29] should put a BIG warning somewhere not to update packages yet because things are broken :) [02:29] i did a catchall evdev InputClass section in my nvidia xorg.conf to catch all /dev/input/event devices and that totally screws up the blob [02:39] Sarvatt, the trace on bug #532530 looks extremely familiar to me but I can't place it... do you recognize it? [02:39] Launchpad bug 532530 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i815] Segmentation fault at address (nil)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532530 [02:39] wasn't there a mess of bugs involving libpixman in their backtrace? [02:42] the ones i was looking at were all with the blob continuing rendering after a VT switch and screwing up, thats a different one.. wish that person would attach the real logs instead of a tarball of /var/log/ [02:43] yeah I know [03:01] ahh crap - [17:39:04] -looks like it'll take hours before the xserver is published on the main archs, so I'll upload the drivers in the morning.. [03:02] well I'm passing around this link for people that already upgraded and need to reboot.. http://sarvatt.com/downloads/xorg.conf.d/ [03:03] Sarvatt, maybe mail that to ubuntu-devel@ [03:41] bryceh: sorry I was swamped there trying to fix the wifes machine, you know how it goes I'm sure :D responding to your patch mail now [03:46] heh yep [03:46] meanwhile I've gotten the -ati .192 merge done [03:47] several nice fixes in it [03:47] one thing I'm unsure about though - it has a conf from debian to enable kms, but not sure if that's going to interfere with our kms enablement [03:48] guessing it won't [03:48] that EXA backport was totally just me saying I'm doing it in xorg-edgers [03:49] no reason to install that, just revert http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-xorg/driver/xserver-xorg-video-ati.git;a=commit;h=f62daf71011a40aa37802b6abd726b731985174b [03:52] rats I *just* uploaded it [03:54] well, I don't think it's going to hurt anything [04:45] bryceh: can you release http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-xorg/driver/xserver-xorg-input-evdev.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ubuntu and http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-xorg/driver/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ubuntu ? [04:46] xserver is borked at the moment, the old udev rules aren't working for me at least and theres no xorg.conf.d snippets to load the drivers without those [05:11] Sarvatt: whaat? things busted? [05:14] sigh, thought I tested that [05:14] anyway, evdev & synaptics uploaded [05:15] yeah things were totally busted on upgrade and reboot here, maybe because I had a nvidia xorg.conf already? [05:15] sweet! thanks tjaalton [05:15] hmm, dunno.. maybe [05:16] right, 5-7h queue [05:17] should've just uploaded them earlier [05:32] tjaalton: yeah we dont have snippets loading the quirks for those tags, those mini 10v's need quirking [05:32] doh nevermind yes you did that already! [05:32] untested, but I think they should work.. [05:34] sounds like it worked for him at least! would be nice to figure out why it broke so badly here [05:35] hmm, and seems to work here too [05:37] yeah :) [05:37] *phew* [05:40] working here on 2 of my other machines too, just the laptop with the blob had major trouble [05:41] got a log? [05:42] i stupidly overwrote the one i was trying to save from the first failed boot [05:42] well you should be able to reproduce it by moving xorg.conf.d away? [05:47] you're right, will do that in the morning, wifes using that laptop now [05:48] and it failed to start? [05:48] the symptom should be that there was no mouse/kbd [05:50] no mouse/keyboard yeah [05:51] alright then [05:51] well, no-one uses the blob anyway.. oh, wait [05:51] :) [05:53] if i could just force nouveau to use the lowest performance state always i'd never look back :) [06:13] whoops - make[3]: *** No rule to make target `wcmTilt2Rotation.lo', needed by `wacom_drv.la'. Stop [06:14] Sarvatt: you need to run autoreconf firtst [06:14] first [06:23] yeah i remember you having that problem the other day and i still forgot :D [06:24] the package is a mess.. [06:25] too bad ron won't like the idea of running autoreconf on build [06:25] *doesn't [06:25] thinking about forking it properly, but maybe not :) [06:39] lp:ubuntu/xf86-input-wacom maybe? :) [06:40] (since he doesn't want it in pkg-xorg?) [07:05] Sarvatt: nah, pkg-xorg is fine, even if he'd maintain it in his own repo [10:23] Sarvatt: edgers needs to merge the xorg-server changes, or people using the edgers version will end up with no kbd/mouse :) [10:26] asac: what's up with the armel buildd's? every build that generates a dbgsym-package fails [10:33] asac: and for instance xorg-server failed to build because of that [10:35] asac: hmm, it might be ok now.. [10:35] asac: right, false alarm.. it's built now :) [10:52] there, evtouch and joystick uploaded [10:53] hum, joystick rejected, need to fakesync it [10:55] there [15:09] Sarvatt: would you like to test my nvidia-settings with -173? [15:42] tjaalton: our builders are unfortunately not stable ... retrying a few times helps often [15:42] we are in process of adding new builders .... so there is hope [15:53] jcristau: do you know if/where XSERVER_LIBPCIACCESS is defined in xserver 1.7.x? [15:53] asac: oh ok. i was just worried that the xserver didn't build the first time, but then noticed that it was retried and succeeded [15:53] * jcristau hands grep to tseliot [15:54] jcristau: I did that already [15:54] then you have your answer [15:55] ok, it's not defined then [15:55] wrong. [15:57] libpciaccess-dev is installed here [15:58] and here it says that it should be defined in xorg-server.h: http://www.x.org/wiki/PciReworkHowto [15:59] s/should be/is/ [16:00] I don't have any xorg-server.h here [16:01] never mind, I was convinced that xserver-xorg-dev was already installed [16:52] Hey guys. We're trying to bind to Super+Esc but can't seem to. [16:52] I can't find an application doing that. [16:52] Is that a key combo that X is grabbing? [16:53] tjaalton: http://pastebin.com/nxnnfP4p -- should we just be matching event devices in synaptics too? [16:56] btw tseliot did you see the problem I had last night trying to activate the blob? Jockey says it fails to activate (even though it activates fine) if I try to activate it - 2010-03-30 20:30:05,913 DEBUG: XorgDriverHandler device sections ({0: ['\tIdentifier\t"Default Device"\n', '\tDriver\t"nvidia"\n']}) [16:57] Sarvatt: can I see the full log and your xorg.conf, please? [16:57] not sure if you know whats up with that, just started since the xorg.conf.d xserver [16:58] let me see if my wife left that machine on for me to ssh into, one sec [16:59] there was no xorg.conf at the time, it still created one though but it said the process failed [17:00] http://pastebin.com/AJiKWr08 [17:02] Sarvatt: it doesn't say that it failed (at least in the log) [17:06] i'll redo it later and get you a screenshot of the gui dialog [17:06] the gui said it failed even though it worked [17:07] ok [17:54] hmm, evdev is claiming the touchpad for a lot of people without the synaptics upgrade [17:58] man, the bug number just does not want to stay under 300 - http://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/X/Reports/ubuntu-x-swat/totals-lucid.svg [18:19] Sarvatt, heh [18:20] wow, that's sad, our 'workqueue' stats are just barely below that... http://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/X/Reports/ubuntu-x-swat/totals-lucid-workqueue.svg [18:21] that means almost all the lucid bugs are blocked on us needing to do something with them [18:48] Sarvatt, fyi ... my quirks kicked in as you said [18:48] (after updating today) [18:48] thanks [18:53] no worries, tjaalton is the one that did all the work porting the quirks over and deserves the thanks :) glad it worked out though, thanks for the update about it === radoe_ is now known as radoe [19:53] is the issue where closing a clutter app == x crash known? [20:33] DBO: yep https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/550218 [20:33] Ubuntu bug 550218 in xorg-server "xserver crashes when closing application using clutter" [Medium,Confirmed] [21:10] Sarvatt: Hey :) Do you remember my problem before? :P That video output problem ... I wonder it still doesnt work after updated several possible candidates recently and I wonder, do you know which packages that is required for video output in Kaffeine and Dragonplayer for instance? Or if you know any site I can check on? [21:34] Oxymoron: I'd suggest starting by googling xine XvShmPutImage nvidia :) [21:35] your X error was a BadMatch in the Xvideo extension in XvShmPutImage [21:36] Oxymoron: have you tried fiddling with the nvidia-settings control panel Xv options? [21:42] Sarvatt: yeah not checking for /dev/input/event* is an oversight, I'll fix it tomorrow [21:42] Oxymoron: try seeing if whatever player you're using has a --debug option and run it from a terminal so you can get more info on whats happening [21:48] Sarvatt: Smart ideas, thanks man :) And well I havent fiddling around with nvidia-settings [22:12] i don't think that would really do it, but it's worth a shot [22:12] what would really help is a new graphics card [22:28] bjsnider: You and youre new graphics card talk ... [22:28] My Graphic card is perfectly fine ;) [22:30] Sarvatt: Hmm interesting output from dragon in command konsole: "" [22:30] InotifyFileSystemWatcherEngine::addPaths: inotify_add_watch failed: Filen eller katalogen finns inte [22:30] QFileSystemWatcher: failed to add paths: /home/oxymoron/.config/ibus/bus [22:30] Bus::open: Can not get ibus-daemon's address. [22:30] IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon [22:41] Oxymoron: no output giving details on what output method is being used and such? all that stuff isnt related [22:41] Sarvatt: How do I retrieve that kind of info then? [22:44] you're asking someone who doesn't use KDE.. :) [22:47] Sarvatt: Alright, I will ask someone who does :) [23:08] Oxymoron: run the player with --help, it'll give you a list of extra options you can use.. [23:10] Sarvatt: Yes, but I cant find any debug option parameter in there and not in --help-kde or --help-qt either [23:12] Sarvatt: Do you know what ibus is btw? [23:12] merged 2.9.1-3 plus cherrypicks [23:12] (for -intel) [23:13] do you really not have a multimedia configuration option in the KDE system menus somewhere? [23:22] Sarvatt, Oxymoron: There certainly is a multimedia configuration option; Look for “Phonon” somewhere . [23:25] Sarvatt: No, I tried remove ~/.kde before and problem still persist ... It must be something else. [23:26] RAOF: Look for Phonon somewhere? :P More specific please ... Phonon settings in systemsettings isnt anything, but maybe some phonon settings somewhere else though' [23:27] Oxymoron: Phonon settings in systemsettings should be where you're looking. I'm sure there's *something* there :) [23:29] Look for xine engine options. [23:31] Sarvatt: That intel fix has hit lucid-kernel git! Yay! [23:32] RAOF: You cant setup anything there, you can only change between gstreamer and xine, no settings at all ... [23:33] There's *definitely* some form of options around in that sort of area; I remember being able to change the deinterlacer used for DVD content, at least... [23:34] RAOF: yeah i closed a ton of bugs about it already since the -19 kernel with it has already been uploaded [23:35] RAOF: Yeah, but those options are also removed in latest kde ... so cant even change that and those settings isnt worth anything anyway so. [23:40] Sarvatt: I ll be damn, I installed ibus restarted xserver and then it worked :D [23:40] tell the KDE people that :) [23:41] #kde-devel I guess [23:54] my plymouth boot is still flickering a lot [23:55] is everyone elses doing that also? [23:59] ernstp: guessing you have a mobilie x1300-x1600 ati gpu? :)