[00:00] <diegogrez> how to configure wine to load automatically the exe files?
[00:00] <chelz> ravibn: sounds like a resolution issue. what kind if video card do you have?
[00:00] <diegogrez> how to configure wine to load automatically the exe files?
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> ryan_: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub  add it next to "quiet splash" inside the quotes, then save the file, close gedit then run: sudo update-grub
[00:00] <Typos_King> dementorrr:  ... no is AddType
[00:01] <chelz> diegogrez: right click, go to properies, then the Open With tab
[00:01] <jkd4> what does the command updatedb do?
[00:01] <ravibn> chelz: No video card on board intel 865 whatever chipset provides I am using it . It was alright till yesterday and suddenly today morning when I rebooted I am see thi
[00:01] <askhader> Is it possible to disable the window border from a single window?
[00:01] <swoody> diegogrez: Can you be more specific in what you mean? .exe files don't open with wine when you click on them?
[00:01] <chelz> jkd4: updates the "locate" command database. you can learn more by doing "man updatedb" in a terminal
[00:02] <diegogrez> no, it opens a compressor program. swoody
[00:02] <jkd4> chelz: does it normally take a very long time?
[00:02] <Typos_King> dementorrr:       there's a .conf file with a bunch of lines with AddType, just make sure you have one for the .php extension, it'd be -> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[00:02] <chelz> ravibn: are you able to get to your System -> Preferences
[00:02] <Admin_> have a good day/night all
[00:02] <ravibn> chelz: yes
[00:02] <swoody> diegogrez: what happens when you right-click the .exe, does it show Wine in the 'Open with...' menu?
[00:02] <chelz> jkd4: the first time it runs it'll take a while but subsequent runs should only be 2-3 minutes
[00:02] <diegogrez> YEs.
[00:03] <diegogrez> THere is WIne. but how to make it the default program to run exe's?
[00:03] <chelz> ravibn: try to get to a Screen Resolution sorta preference and see if changing stuff in there helps
[00:03] <Typos_King> jkd4:    as chelz explained already, is more or less 'file indexing', so locate and other file-finding processes find files quicker using an index rather than scouring the hd which will take longer
[00:03] <chelz> diegogrez: right click, go to properies, then the Open With tab, then select Wine
[00:03] <Matisse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/406763/      <---- can somebody have a look over it?
[00:03] <swoody> diegogrez: ok, try as chelz said, right-click an .exe and go to properties, and select to use Wine by default...
[00:04] <Typos_King> jkd4:    here, updatedb is like the filesystem filespiderbot :)
[00:04] <ryan_> Actionparsnip:  space after quiet splash so it looks like "quiet splash i8042.reset i8042.nomux"?
[00:04] <swoody> diegogrez: you may also need to make the file executable - in the properties menu again, select executing under Permissions
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> ryan_: indeed
[00:04] <chelz> Matisse: looks fine
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> Matisse: looks fine to me, wassup?
[00:04] <chelz> jinx
[00:04] <ryan_> Actionparsnip:  thanks
[00:04] <diegogrez> ok
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> Matisse: you can add --purge to the command to remove the config bits too
[00:05] <diegogrez> done
[00:05] <diegogrez> thanks
[00:05] <Matisse> ActionParsnip, it uninstalled something more then I expected... "-------- Uninstall Beginning --------  Module:  vhba"
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> ryan_: you can add ipv6.disable=1 too if you do not use ipv6 to speed up web browsing slightly
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> Matisse: yes for that kernel only
[00:06] <hp> hi
[00:06] <ryan_> ActionParsnip:  I am doing this to keep my touchpad from being weird and buggy....mentioned here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/501843
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> ryan_: yeah i've seen that fix, i've advised it soooo many times on launchpad questions
[00:07] <jmcs> I've just installed lucid beta 1. While most things are working great, the console transparency isn't working as it should (I'm using compiz and it looks the same it would without compositing). Anyone as any idea why this is happening?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | jmcs
[00:07] <ryan_> Actionparsnip:  Hopefully it works
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> ryan_: i'd say most likely
[00:07] <Matisse> ActionParsnip, but if a kernel is removed, why should there be a module thats removed too? (it was also removed when uninstalling linux-ima...17)
[00:08] <jmcs> ubottu, ok, sorry I'll as there :)
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> Matisse: because the kernel module will also be removed for that kernel as its no longer needed
[00:08] <jmcs> ActionParsnip, , ok, sorry I'll as there :)
[00:09] <ryan_> actionparsnip:  Well, I'm sure I'll be back if there are problems
[00:09] <hihihi100> is it possible, in xchat, to minimize the channel list?
[00:09] <Matisse> ActionParsnip, so, every extra module for a certain (although if is the same module) is kept at different places?
[00:09] <Random832> hihihi100; what do you mean minimize
[00:09] <Matisse> *it
[00:09] <chelz> hihihi100: you can click the dividing bar between the channel list and the chat area and drag it until the chatlist is hidden
[00:09] <Random832> i usually put the channel list in tab mode
[00:10] <hihihi100> I mean to be able to, when clicking it, "minimize" it to the bottom's nstatusbar
[00:10] <hihihi100> statusbar
[00:10] <ravibn> chelz: I just got the control bar. I just went into pref---> Appearance  and changed visual effects to extra and it started working. One more Q I need that rotate the desktop panel how do I do
[00:10] <Random832> hihihi100; wait... are you using xchat-gnome ?
[00:10] <hihihi100> no idea.. im a noob
[00:10] <hihihi100> drag.. yes thats what I have been doin
[00:10] <Rav_Raynier> Random832, more than likely
[00:10] <pk23_> um, I have a logitech quickcam, how do i install the drivers for it?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> Matisse: if you cd to /lib/modules you will see the modules for each kernel, the post install script removes these to save space
[00:11] <Random832> well neither app comes preinstalled IIRC, so you had to install whatever it is
[00:11] <Matisse> ActionParsnip, ok, thx
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> pk23_: run: lsusb   and websearch for the 8 character hex id
[00:11] <Nijverheid> any of you know your way around xampp in ubuntu? I got the software downloaded and extracted no problem, but I keep getting the page saying "It works! The server is running but there is no content yet". if I try to go to http://localhost/xampp/ it tells me the page cannot be found :/ any idea what's up?
[00:11] <chelz> ravibn: the rotate cube?
[00:11] <ravibn> chelz : thats right
[00:12] <Dazzled> Nijverheid: 'it works' is Apache's test page
[00:12] <Matisse> ActionParsnip, can I safely remove modules from older kernel versions (which arent installed anymore) in that directory?
[00:12] <orudie_> how can i see the cpu info ?
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> Matisse: sure, just make double sure it is gone
[00:12] <codnik> aye folks
[00:12] <pk23_> ActionParsnip, do you mean the vendor and product id?
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> orudie_: cat /proc/cpuinfo | less
[00:12] <Dazzled> Nijverheid: /var/www
[00:12] <britany_okla> what is a good way to backup my laptop
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> pk23_: just the ID will be fine
[00:13] <pk23_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasLogitech this website says it uses the gspca driver
[00:13] <britany_okla> running ubuntu 9.1
[00:13] <orudie_> ActionParsnip, thanx
[00:13] <codnik> i need some help... nslookup is resolving localhost to google's dns server. that doesn't sound right to me
[00:13] <chelz> ravibn: try holding ctrl and alt and then moving the mouse
[00:13] <pk23_> but what do i do next?
[00:13] <Aquina> why are sudo and spt-get placed in /usr/bin and not /usr/sbin?
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> codnik: if you run: cat /etc/resolv.conf    do you see 8.8.8.8
[00:13] <chelz> ravibn: you also need to set your virtual desktop count to 4
[00:14] <ravibn> chelz : got the desktop rotating
[00:14] <hihihi100> 你好
[00:14] <Nijverheid> Dazzled: so I can just softlink /var/www/ to /opt/lampp/htdocs/ then? Don't see why I can't...
[00:14] <hihihi100> wow, cool
[00:14] <chelz> ravibn: working?
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> pk23_: find out how which gspca you need, ubuntu comes with a few, the id will tell you which
[00:15] <chelz> Nijverheid: as long as permissions are okay, that should work
[00:15] <codnik> ActionParsnip: yeah. i added nameserver 127.0.0.1 to that but i'm not sure that's a proper thing to do. it doesn't solve the problem, anyway
[00:15] <Nijverheid> sweet
[00:15] <ravibn> chelz: Yeah! got it working thank you
[00:15] <chelz> ravibn: good to hear :)
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> codnik: are you running something like dnsmasq
[00:15] <codnik> ActionParsnip: not that i'm aware of
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> codnik: then adding nameserver 127.0.0.1 will do nothing
[00:16] <hihihi100> 안녕
[00:16] <Rav_Raynier> !ot | hihihi100
[00:16] <hihihi100> ok ok srry
[00:17] <codnik> ActionParsnip: ah, you're right. i entered dnsmasq in the terminal and now localhost resolves to the right ip
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> codnik: if you added the google dns servers in your network management app or /etc/resolv.conf then they will be used. its no bad thing, it will do the job
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> codnik: i use dnsmasq, you can check its working using dig
[00:17] <blakkheim> codnik: i would recommend opendns over google's dns..
[00:17] <codnik> ActionParsnip: i wasn't aware of that until now. i actually thought it could be an issue because i'm not being able to listen on localhost for music player daemon
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> codnik: dig www.bmezine.com   will take a few ms to finish, if you repeat it will take 0ms
[00:18] <codnik> blakkheim: it's been doing good for me here.. i actually moved from opendns to google's... just 'cause i'm a big google sucker
[00:19] <chelz> ravibn: if you skip the part about the nvidia drivers, this might be of interest to you: http://www.howtoforge.com/enabling-compiz-fusion-on-an-ubuntu-9.10-desktop-nvidia-geforce-fx-5200
[00:19] <Berzerker> anyone have a good guide to installing ubuntu on raid 0?
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> codnik: if your system is on long enough dnsmasq will have a decent amount of resolutions and you wont need any web based resolutions ;)
[00:20] <ravibn> chelz: to hv the rotating cubing u need to change settings in System ---> pref --->CompizConfig settings
[00:20] <codnik> ActionParsnip: so how come it wasn't on by default?
[00:20] <codnik> ActionParsnip: also, can you help with my mpd issue?
[00:20] <codnik> it drove me crazy yesterday
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> codnik: it shouldnt be, your ISP's dns will be default, you have to add google's manually as well as localhost
[00:21] <ravibn> chelz : select rotate cube option that is all I did
[00:21] <jkd4> ActionParsnip: can you run your box while bitbleach is running?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> codnik: not something i use dude
[00:21] <britany_okla> is there a way to create an image of my system for backup purposes
[00:21] <pk23_> how do I install the gspca drivers for my webcam?
[00:21] <ravibn> chelz : also uncheck Desktop wall
[00:22] <pk23_> britany_okla, yes
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> pk23_: the ID will tell you
[00:22] <chelz> Berzerker: software or hardware raid
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> pk23_: the default install has many gspca drivers by default
[00:22] <britany_okla> what software did u use pk23
[00:22] <Berzerker> chelz: I think it's software (fakeraid)
[00:22] <Berzerker> chelz: done through the bios
[00:22] <^paradox^> im on ubuntu 8.04 lts. im still on version 3.0.18 of firefox and feel like i shouldve gotten the updates already for firefox 3.6. should i have seen that in updates manager by now?
[00:22] <codnik> ActionParsnip: dudette ;P
[00:23] <pk23_> britany_okla, sorry I forgot, think it was  a virtual machine when I did it
[00:23] <blakkheim> ^paradox^: no
[00:23] <codnik> ActionParsnip: anyway, thanks for the insights
[00:23] <britany_okla> ok
[00:23] <codnik> anyone here knowledgeable about MPD to give me a hand?
[00:23] <pk23_> ActionParsnip, how do I know if the driver is even loaded properly?
[00:23] <blakkheim> ^paradox^: 3.6 will never be on 8.04
[00:23] <^paradox^> blakkheim: why is that?
[00:23] <blakkheim> codnik: #mpd
[00:23] <acicula> resolv.conf is autogenerated though(by default), so changes (by default) wont stick
[00:23] <chelz> Berzerker: fakeraid is fakeraid, neither software nor hardware. newer motherboard do a strange thing of claiming some kind of hardware raid but actually not really supporting it at all. i would suggest going full software raid and ignoring fakeraid
[00:23] <blakkheim> ^paradox^: learn a bit about debian package freezing
[00:23] <codnik> blakkheim: good point... -___-"
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> pk23_: if its loaded then if you run cheese you will see yourself
[00:24] <chelz> resolv.conf is autogenerated by Network Manager so any permanent changes should be made in Network Manager
[00:24] <acicula> correct
[00:24] <pk23_> ActionParsnip, it doesn;t  :(
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> chelz: assuming network manager is running or even installed
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> pk23_: then you'll need guides
[00:24] <acicula> ActionParsnip: it is even on a bare ubuntu, and this is #ubuntu?
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> pk23_: i've given direction
[00:25] <^paradox^> blakkheim: ok so what do i need to do to upgrade? is there gonna be any negative effect on firefox if i download the 3.6 deb?
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> acicula: ubuntu is also customisable and although its default doesnt mean everybody uses it
[00:25] <blakkheim> ^paradox^: you need to upgrade ubuntu or switch to a distro that stays up to date with  packages
[00:25] <codnik> blakkheim: looks like no one is around in #mpd :(
[00:25] <blakkheim> codnik: be patient
[00:25] <chelz> Berzerker: you probably want the alternate disc. here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[00:26] <chelz> Berzerker: also if you want to know why fakeraid is horrible: http://thebs413.blogspot.com/2005/09/fake-raid-fraid-sucks-even-more-at.html
[00:26] <hihihi100> 10.04 is being released at the beginning of april or at the end of it?
[00:26] <blakkheim> hihihi100: april 29
[00:26] <Nijverheid> heh, think I just fubared xampp installation... oh well, I'll just have to start again :)
[00:26] <chelz> !lucid | hihihi100
[00:26] <hihihi100> ok
[00:26] <Berzerker> chelz: yeah but I don't want to spend money on a hardware raid controller and it's a raid of SSDs
[00:26] <chelz> Berzerker: why not software raid?
[00:27] <Berzerker> chelz: it's whatever the BIOS raid is
[00:27] <^paradox^> blakkheim: i assumed after the 3yrs for 8.04 lts were up ubuntu would upgrade
[00:27] <chelz> Berzerker: regardless of bios or mobo support, you can do software raid
[00:27] <chelz> Berzerker: software raid is all in linux
[00:27] <Berzerker> chelz: is that link a guide on how to set that up?
[00:27] <chelz> Berzerker: yes
[00:27] <Berzerker> ok, thanks
[00:28] <Berzerker> should I put the BIOS back in IDE mode?
[00:28] <chelz> Berzerker: yes
[00:28] <Berzerker> alright. thanks for the help, I appreciate it
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> Berzerker: raid of SSDs will be blisteringly fast
[00:28] <Berzerker> ActionParsnip: it already is
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> Berzerker: even in software raid
[00:29] <Berzerker> ActionParsnip: but I guess it's not as fast as it could be
[00:29] <acicula> Berzerker: the default motherboard crap may well in fact be slowr then softwareraid
[00:29] <codnik> i'm having issues with my repos... it's failing for package "Translation-en_US" from URIs security.ubuntu.com, ppa.launchpad.net, archive.canonical.com, br.archive.ubuntu.com
[00:29] <codnik> no idea how that should be fixed
[00:29] <Nijverheid> is there a way to chown recursively through a directory?
[00:29] <acicula> Nijverheid: -R switch
[00:30] <acicula> Nijverheid: man chmod for the details
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Nijverheid: add -R as an option
[00:30] <Nijverheid> awesome, cheers
[00:31] <boten_anna> Hello.
[00:31] <boten_anna> It seems kinda quiet in here.
[00:31] <gottto> my vnc authentication password box never gets focus - I have to click it to type in it - it's very annoying
[00:31] <chelz> Nijverheid: inside "man chown" pressing the / key will allow you to type a string to search for. you can type "recursive" to find flags like -R
[00:32] <hacked_kernel> is there a keylogger detector?
[00:32] <Nijverheid> chelz: oooh, I didn't know that before... cheers :D
[00:33] <chelz> Nijverheid: yeah you type it then hit enter and it'll search. to repeat the same search you can hit / and then enter also.
[00:33] <acicula> hacked_kernel: not really, there is stuff like chkrootkit to check for rootkits and such, but implementing keyloggers does not work the same way it does in windows, and it hasnt been an issue so far
[00:33] <iflema>  
[00:33] <chelz> Nijverheid: there's also this: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/
[00:33] <Nijverheid> urgh... I feel dirty... I just went through the entire of my xampp install chowning everything to me, and chmodding everything to 777 to make it work >_<
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> Nijverheid: everyday is a schoolday
[00:33] <hacked_kernel> acicula, well what about backdoors that sends info through the network
[00:34] <Dazzled> Nijverheid: I thought about XAMPP, loved it on Windows
[00:34] <Dazzled> Nijverheid: but I went with the real deal instead :p
[00:34] <Nijverheid> Dazzled: yeah I know the feeling, but my internet access is dodgy at best, so I like to have the option to continue work even with no internet access :)
[00:35] <Nijverheid> meh, I'll sort out all the xampp permissions tomorrow after I've had some sleep :) night guys, and cheers for all the help :D
[00:35] <Dazzled> Nijverheid: I just installed Apache and MySQL
[00:35] <acicula> chkrootkit or rkhunter checks for some of those occurences
[00:35] <Dazzled> Nijverheid: and PHP
[00:36] <aksionov> Hi everyone
[00:37] <acicula> hacked_kernel: in most cases its not an issue (for desktops) since software is installed via trusted channels, ie repositories and security issues are currently rarely exploited.
[00:37] <ynk> is there a reason my newly installed Netbeans 6.8 is not even starting up? the latest version of the software in the Ubuntu Software Center is 6.7...
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> ynk: launch it from terminal to see what is output
[00:39] <ynk> ActionParsnip: how interesting! "the program is currently NOT installed." LoL
[00:39] <ynk> well, i can SEE it in the drop-down.
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> ynk: then see what is ran with the  icon in alacarte
[00:40] <hcl2> except for the bad partition type interface, the mini.iso install was quite painless for a 12mb download
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> hcl2: its what i use :)
[00:41] <Nijverheid> hmmm, one final question... if the admin of a server has created a shell script to make a users life easier, and made it available as a command... what is the command I need to find the exact location of this script?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> ynk: the terminal output will help diagnose
[00:41] <acicula> Nijverheid: locate or find
[00:41] <ynk> ActionParsnip: how am i supposed to use "alacarte"? didn't even know that existed until now.
[00:41] <bigtom214851> ActionParsnip: im having problems with banshee
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Nijverheid: which command
[00:42] <purplebluesilver> Hi I'm the girl with the Freezing Ubuntu. I got rid of the CD, of Chrome, FF worked so I tried Youtube Jon Stewart Hulu - was good for a while then BANG. So I idd contl-PrtScr REISUB and nothing. Did not roboot. I was told that that means "kernel panic." Grasshopper coming back to report, I am at your mercy.
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> ynk: run it in an alt+f2 dialogue
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> bigtom214851: ask the channel
[00:43] <night98> i need video card help
[00:43] <bigtom214851> im having problems with banshee...it wont see my ipod then when it does if i safely unplug banshee doesnt recognize that its gone so when i try and plug it back in it closes or freezes
[00:43] <hcl2> where would would my windows drive be mounted, /mnt/ntfs1 ?
[00:43] <bigtom214851> fresh ubuntu 9.10 x64 and i updated banshee 1 hour ago
[00:44] <Nijverheid> heh, something tells me that "find scriptname /" was a bad iea
[00:44] <Nijverheid> *idea
[00:44] <Klett> hi there
[00:44] <Typos_King> Nijverheid:    ctrl-c to kill the find
[00:44]  * GirlwiththeFreez is back again in this over-a-week process.
[00:45] <Typos_King> Nijverheid:    try 'locate' better methinks
[00:45] <night98> i just installed a new video card how do i get the video back
[00:45] <Nijverheid> Typos_King: this server doesn't have locate installed :S
[00:45] <hcl2> i have 2 cdrom drives for some reason now
[00:45] <Dazzled> Nijverheid: use updatedb
[00:45] <^paradox^> blakkheim: whats the easiest way to go from ubuntu 8.04 lts to 9.10?
[00:45] <Dazzled> Nijverheid: then you can use locate iirc
[00:45] <bigtom214851> GUESS ILL JUST BUY A MAC
[00:46] <kostkon> ^paradox^, just wait for 10.04 to come out
[00:46] <blakkheim> ^paradox^: wait until 10.04 comes out next month, then do a reformat and install with the minimal iso
[00:46] <kostkon> ^paradox^, you'll be able to update directly to 10.04
[00:46] <Klett> does anyone have problems of irc connection
[00:46] <purplebluesilver> hello ohneell
[00:46] <Typos_King> bigtom214851:    a  big mac, based on your letter sizes :P~, supersize it
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> Nijverheid: if you put it in /usr/bin then it will be accessible globally
[00:46] <acicula> bigtom214851: if people know they'll answer, if noone answers its cuz they dont know
[00:46] <hcl2> Nijverheid: find /usr -name 'scriptname' -type f  isn't so bad.
[00:46] <hcl2> no sense looking in /lib and /var if you know it's probably not there
[00:47] <^paradox^> 8.04 appeared in update manager when i upgraded so 10.04 will do the same?
[00:47] <kostkon> ^paradox^, yes
[00:47] <tm0> Hi, anyone here good with Conky?
[00:47] <blakkheim> ^paradox^: yes but i wouldn't recommend doing an inplace upgrade, usually breaks things
[00:47] <k0d3g3ar> Nijverheid:  find / -name filename -print
[00:48] <k0d3g3ar> Nijverheid:  replace filename with the filename you are looking for
[00:48] <^paradox^> kostkon: what are its system requirements and is it going to hurt anything to upgrade firefox now with the 3.6 deb?
[00:48] <hcl2> what do I have to install or run to get an xorg.conf file?
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> night98: run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:48] <night98> ok
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> hcl2: what video card?
[00:48] <blakkheim> hcl2: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:48] <hcl2> legacy nvidia
[00:49] <k0d3g3ar> hcl2:  should be already there in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:49] <hcl2> there's no xorg.conf file
[00:49] <kostkon> ^paradox^, not sure about firefox. but I believe it's a little heavier than 8.04
[00:49] <k0d3g3ar> hcl2:  try running nvidia-settings
[00:49] <hcl2> no nvidia-settings command
[00:49] <humphreybc> where are pointer themes stored?
[00:49] <k0d3g3ar> hcl2:  it will give you the option to create one
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> hcl2: i can give you mine if you like. i use nvidia
[00:49] <kostkon> ^paradox^, but to be sure, don't upgrade your ffox. just wait for another 25 days or so for 10.04
[00:49] <k0d3g3ar> hcl2:  then you have some installation to do through Synaptic.
[00:50] <k0d3g3ar> hcl2:  I'm assuming you have a Nvidia card,right?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> hcl2: http://pastebin.com/wMfvWqU3
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> hcl2: just change Driver "nvidia" to Driver "nv"
[00:50] <^paradox^> kostkon: perhaps youre right. hopefully all be well after that
[00:51] <hcl2> it just says "error: the control display is undefined"
[00:51] <ZykoticK9> kostkon, 30 days from today till Lucid
[00:51] <hcl2> I don't have X
[00:51] <bigtom214851> someone tell me why i shouldnt switch to mac? windows was bad but linux cant even get basic s*** done
[00:51] <hcl2> i mean, i have X, but it has no settings
[00:51] <hcl2> it wants to load /dev/fb0 which doesn't exist
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> !ot | bigtom214851
[00:51] <hcl2> i need to create a bare bones xorg.conf so i can add nvidia as the driver
[00:51] <pepee> bigtom214851, because you don't know how to use a computer
[00:51] <kostkon> ^paradox^, just remember to backup your data first, before attempting the upgrade.
[00:52] <Dazzled> bigtom214851: sounds like a PEBCAK problem, tbh
[00:52] <^paradox^> kostkon: np there ;-)
[00:52] <night98> the command is not working
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> hcl2: Dazzled zing!
[00:52] <bigtom214851> Dazzled: what is PEBCAK
[00:52] <kostkon> ^paradox^, :)
[00:52] <pepee> Dazzled, hehehee
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: probably getting an ID 10-T error on boot
[00:53] <bigtom214851> pepee: ive slaved with this stupid mp3 player problem for a week
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> bigtom214851: ubuntu-restricted-extras sorts that nicely
[00:54] <kostkon> ZykoticK9, yeap 30 days, you're right
[00:54] <k0d3g3ar> bigtom214851, Macs are really simple.  They suit simple people well
[00:54] <hcl2> ActionParsnip: thanks
[00:55] <^paradox^> ok well i guess im good to go then. are my other apps, the ones that came with ubuntu, going to begin to upgrade further after 10.04?
[00:55] <bigtom214851> ActionParsnip: I've also tried songbird which refused to see my ipod...whcih sucks because songbird is really really fast and intuitive
[00:55] <k0d3g3ar> bigtom214851, I use Banshee with my iPHone and it works great
[00:56] <purplebluesilver> Hi I'm the girl with the Freezing Ubuntu.  WHAT I DID TO SOLVE:  I got rid of the CD in the drive, of using Chrome, FF worked (with no add-ons) so I tried more:  Youtube, Jon Stewart, Hulu - was good for Til Then. Frozen.  ACTION: I pressed control-PrtScr REISUB and nothing happened (certainly not the expected reboot). .  .    I was told that that means "kernel panic." Grasshopper coming back to report, I am at your mercy.
[00:56] <Serraphyn> Are there any good TV channel applications for watch more main stream videos? I live in canada and hulu wont work here :(
[00:56] <k0d3g3ar> bigtom214851, but then I want to throw my iPhone out the window and get an Android, so its no big achievement
[00:56] <puff> I have an ubuntu install that's taking up 35 G out of 44...
[00:56] <puff> AFAIK it's a vanilla install, where's the beef?
[00:56] <night98> how do i get my new video to work on ubuntu
[00:56] <bigtom214851> k0d3g3ar: i have a 120gb black (graphite) ipod classic and i think something is wrong because it should be able to see it
[00:56] <^paradox^> i mean do the upgrades cease or slow down the closer a version of ubuntu comes to the end of its life?
[00:56] <purplebluesilver> Serraphyn, I believ you can trick hulu into thinking you are from an approved country by going through a proxy or an American VPN.
[00:56] <Dazzled> Serraphyn: VLC kan receive shoutcast and friends, doesn't that cover TV as well?
[00:57] <hcl2> how would a person go about creating a default xorg.conf file without using pastebin.com ?
[00:57] <night98> how do i get my new video card to work on ubuntu
[00:57] <k0d3g3ar> bigtom214851, you have to do a few hacks to get the ipod libraries loaded for it to work.  Google ipods & ubuntu are there are tons of really simple instructions on how to do it that I found
[00:57] <hcl2> Serraphyn: miro
[00:57] <aksionov> Hi everyone
[00:57] <ZykoticK9> hcl2, see the non-nvidia steps at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/create-an-xorg-conf-file
[00:57] <hcl2> and vlc
[00:57] <k0d3g3ar> bigtom214851, you can blame Apple for their freedom hating policies as the reason it can't see the iphone out of the box
[00:58] <bigtom214851> k0d3g3ar: okay what would you recommend trying?
[00:58] <k0d3g3ar> google
[00:58] <k0d3g3ar> bigtom214851, google
[00:58] <ZykoticK9> bigtom214851, Lucid is reported to have much better iPhone/iPod support - 30 days
[00:58] <k0d3g3ar> bigtom214851, seriously there are dozens of blogs, step by step instructions, etc. on doing this
[00:58] <hcl2> is that not a part of installing X?  so wierd
[00:58] <jeffesquivel> hi, is anyone experiencing freezes on lucid beta 1 netbook edition?
[00:59] <k0d3g3ar> bigtom214851, just google it and you'll be up and running in now time
[00:59] <pepee> bigtom214851, http://www.google.com/search?q=iphone+ubuntu&hl=en&num=30
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | jeffesquivel
[00:59] <ZykoticK9> jeffesquivel, reask in Lucid channel #ubuntu+1
[01:00] <jeffesquivel> ActionParsnip, ZykoticK9, ok, thanks!
[01:00] <azredwing> Anyone around? Got an issue with Lucid that I don't know how to file a bug report against...
[01:00] <azredwing> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1441374
[01:00] <duckwars> what is the command to see things about a hard disk, like size, amount used, amount free etc
[01:00] <acicula> duckwars: df
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> duckwars: df -h
[01:00] <duckwars> thanks
[01:00] <hcl2> is there not an automatic way to mount an ntfs partition, or do I have to write fstab stuff by hand?
[01:00] <ZykoticK9> azredwing, reask in Lucid channel #ubuntu+1
[01:00] <azredwing> ZykoticK9: thanks
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> hcl2: i'd use fstab
[01:01] <acicula> hcl2: if its mounted automatically its because its in fstab?
[01:01] <Serraphyn> hcl2, miro is 'okay' but your not gonna find things like Family Guy and main stream tv on there, least I have not.
[01:01] <acicula> hcl2: misread, yes to mount it must be in fstab
[01:01] <night98> how do i get ubuntu to work with my new video card
[01:01] <acicula> to automatically
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> night98: what card do you have?
[01:01] <night98> geforce
[01:02] <Dazzled> night98: System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> night98: can you give the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[01:02] <night98> no
[01:03] <boldfilter> ActionParsnip: Yeah its right here http://bit.ly/dwOyQs
[01:03] <^paradox^> kostkon: are my apps, the ones that came with ubuntu (and hopefully the rest), going to begin to further upgrade after 10.04? when a version comes close to the end of its life do the upgrades cease?
[01:04] <night98> ok i make to the spash screen then it says on the moniitor freq out of rage try resoution
[01:04] <acicula> ^paradox^: every new release software is udpated, but kept as much constant as possible after that, until next release
[01:04] <hcl2> ok, now my fstab is gone, vi mistake.  Anyway to regenerate it?
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> night98: boot to recovery root console and run: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old; dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:05] <bastid_raZor> hcl2: to mount ntfs stuff you can install ntfs-config  iirc
[01:05] <night98> ok
[01:05] <hcl2> bastid_raZor: thanks, i have ntfs-3g installed
[01:06] <acicula> ^paradox^: if you need the most recent uses non-lts, if you need stability use lts, if you need bleedin edge use alpha/beta development releases
[01:06] <hcl2> but my fstab is completely erased, anyway to generate it?
[01:06] <boldfilter> hcl2: Yeah its right here http://bit.ly/dwOyQs
[01:06] <bastid_raZor> hcl2: you asked for an automatic way.
[01:06] <^paradox^> acicula: but it causes me problems if i need to get help with an apps features and im three steps behind everyone i talk to
[01:07] <hcl2> bastid_raZor: yes i did, but i have a bigger problem now
[01:07] <kostkon> ^paradox^, generally canonical offers only security updates. if you want to keep some of your apps up-to-date then you'll have to use PPAs and or getdeb.net.
[01:07] <Dazzled> hcl2: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/95272-how-recover-my-fstab.html
[01:07] <acicula> ^paradox^: most people here prefer features over long term stability yeah
[01:07] <bastid_raZor> hcl2: it seems Dazzled has found your solution and boldfilter found your pasted fstab
[01:08] <acicula> ^paradox^: what is your support question?
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> acicula: i prefer stability personally
[01:08] <bastid_raZor> hcl2: sorry.. boldfilter is being a retard
[01:08] <boldfilter> bastid_raZor: Yeah its right here http://bit.ly/dwOyQs
[01:08] <hcl2> okay, so, i can copy and paste from forums, but is there or is there not a script or program to generate a new one?
[01:08] <night98> it says no such file or dir
[01:08] <^paradox^> acicula: well then theres the other problem. if i use a version that keeps my apps update to things brake more often
[01:08] <bastid_raZor> boldfilter: don't offer unhelpful advice and spamming that junk is pointless
[01:08] <acicula> ActionParsnip: i'll probably be sticking with lts for a long time too
[01:09] <boldfilter> wow, who fucked your wife
[01:09] <acicula> ^paradox^: lts is uptodate in terms of patches, not in terms of software revisions
[01:09] <bastid_raZor> boldfilter: keep you language in check too.
[01:09] <Rav_Raynier> boldfilter, This is a PG, family-oriented chat. Please watch your language.
[01:09] <boldfilter> lol
[01:10] <jrib> !guidelines > boldfilter
[01:10] <acicula> ^paradox^: there are some "service packs" which update some software i think
[01:10] <jrib> boldfilter: please read that and keep this channel related to ubuntu support only.  Thanks
[01:10] <acicula> like 8.04.1 and 8.04.2 /
[01:10] <boldfilter> jrib: Yeah its right here http://bit.ly/dwOyQs
[01:10] <acicula> ^paradox^: so what is your support question?
[01:10] <Rav_Raynier> Thanks, jrib
[01:11] <vinq1> How do I get desktops with exclusive icons using the Workspace Switcher or other such desktop pager?
[01:11] <^paradox^> acicula: ok is going to be possible to stay with lts while using debs to keep my apps updated and still have a working computer?
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> vinq1: i dont think nautilus can do that
[01:12] <acicula> ^paradox^: if my updated you mean the latest revision of your favourite software packages then no
[01:12] <vinq1> ActionParsnip: is there a replacement I can use?
[01:12] <duckwars> anyone have any suggestions for fun things to do with  my headless home server?
[01:12] <^paradox^> acicula: my question when i came in here was about firefox, but its been answered
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> vinq1: not sure, possibly
[01:12] <duckwars> any cool server I can make it?
[01:12] <acicula> ^paradox^: lts is about consistency and security, not about features via new software revisions
[01:13] <acicula> ^paradox^: you can update via ppa's but not all ppa's keep lts into account
[01:13] <vinq1> duckwars: make it a web server for a cancer foundation + open source software project or other good cause
[01:13] <bastid_raZor> duckwars: possibly ask in #ubuntu-server  ?
[01:13] <night98> it says no such file or dir
[01:13] <jrib> !who | night98
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> duckwars: torrent / samba / backup is what one of mine does, could have a vlc or mnpd server you can remotely control via http / ssh to play music
[01:14] <duckwars> vinq1: As arsenio hall used to say "can you expand on that" maybe a link?
[01:14] <^paradox^> acicula: i guess im trying to avoid a CD install. i just dont wanna go to the trouble
[01:14] <Kentrel> !tab
[01:14] <acicula> ^paradox^: you can upgrade form lts to lts afaik
[01:14] <acicula> *from
[01:15] <duckwars> well, right now I have ssh and rtorrent going, and back stuff up.  That was the whole goal of it.  Now I wanna possibly do something fun.  Possibly something that will someone work with my iPhone
[01:15] <vinq1> duckwars: Well, currently I'm doing pro-bono work to get a small cancer foundation's website up. They have space already for hosting. But, it gave me the idea for you for your server, for another good cause.
[01:15] <^paradox^> acicula: yes i know, but its still lts
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> duckwars: i have a server which runs vlc and lets me control music playback from my g1 phone, depends what functionality you need
[01:15] <Klett> i can not connect to irc from ubuntu 9.10
[01:15] <acicula> ^paradox^: yeah, err so?
[01:15] <Klett> but i can from ubuntu 8.04
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> Klett: can you get the web?
[01:16] <Klett> yes
[01:16] <vinq1> Klett: go to command line and type "iptables -F" and then try?
[01:16] <Klett> i don't know what changed
[01:16] <^paradox^> acicula: i was reading and i could go from 8.04 to 8.10 to 9.04 to 9.10 which sounds like loads of fun
[01:16] <duckwars> vinq1: I see, maybe I will look into some other friends' organizations, I am in college and am also a hippie so I know some people who could probalby use it
[01:16] <bigtom214851> well i didnt find anything that helped but i dont care...ill figure it out eventually
[01:16] <bigtom214851> thanks fro all the suggestions, its nice to know people care
[01:16] <bigtom214851> goodnight
[01:16] <acicula> ^paradox^: no, you can uprade from an lts version to an lts version ussually
[01:16] <mccolgan> Quick question, what's a lightweight image editor I should use in lucid?
[01:16] <Klett> iptables -F
[01:16] <Lordveda> anyone here with some httpd server experience?
[01:16] <acicula> ^paradox^: but for non-lts you have to go from revision to revision yes
[01:16] <Klett> is that diagnostic or solution
[01:17] <vinq1> duckwars: So you're a hippie, eh? I didn't know those still existed.
[01:17] <Klett> i will now i am on ubuntu 8.04
[01:17] <Klett> that's why i am chatting
[01:17] <Klett> :)
[01:17] <duckwars> vinq1: not a real hippie, I just kind of an environmentalist
[01:17] <^paradox^> acicula: exactly and i can only imagine the errors id have to correct through that fiasco
[01:17] <__maroc__H>  trying to connect the ubuntu servers
[01:18] <acicula> ^paradox^: you are complaining apriori on suspected upgrade errors?
[01:18] <Klett> it tells me something about proxy etc
[01:18] <Klett> but never had a proxy
[01:18] <__maroc__H> salut
[01:18] <vinq1> Klett: I meant from a command prompt window. Type "sudo iptables -F" to clear any firewall settings and see if that's blocking you. Then, if not, reboot to restore your firewall settings the way they were.
[01:18] <^paradox^> acicula: lets call it a safe assumption. i mean no disrespect
[01:18] <Klett> i will that
[01:18] <acicula> ^paradox^: the aim is to allow seamless upgrade from lts to lts, i am sure the release team will focus on that bit
[01:19] <__maroc__H> demand de l'aide
[01:19] <mccolgan> Any idea what I could use as a lightweight image editor in lucid ubuntu? GIMP is too heavy for what I need it for.
[01:19] <acicula> ^paradox^: im not part of ubuntu in anyway aside from trolling/supportin #ubuntu, so none taken
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | mccolgan
[01:19] <vinq1> Is there an addon for Nautilus that lets me switch desktops and get exclusive icons and windows on each? Jeesh -- it seems like someone would have figured that out by now.
[01:20] <^paradox^> acicula: im sure it will too, i was referring to the revision to revision nightmare
[01:20] <yeryry> ok, so I upgraded to 9.10, and it seems my boot drive UUID changed, so it wouldn't boot.. I haven't been able to get it to work with the new UUID..
[01:20] <torchie> so check it.
[01:20] <acicula> ^paradox^: its like complaining you cant update to windows 7 from windows 95
[01:20] <Klett> what is a good tool for searching files
[01:20] <Dazzled> yeryry: Grub error 17?
[01:20] <Klett> the search facility in ubutnu is so and so
[01:21] <jsec> Tilda vs. Yakuake? I'm trying to figure out which one I want to use, anybody have any recommendations?
[01:21] <Klett> ubuntu
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> Klett: find is my favourite
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> jsec: tilda uses gtk, yakuake uses qt
[01:21] <torchie> does ubuntu netbook remix run well on non-atom x86 procs
[01:21] <Klett> i should study linux seriously
[01:21] <Klett> takes will
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> jsec: so if you are using gnome use tilda or guake, if you are using kde then use yakuake
[01:21] <torchie> because I was thinking, what if I installed that into a wicked powerful computer
[01:21] <yeryry> Dazzled: I don't remember seeing that..
[01:22] <torchie> would it be better to install netbook remix or xubuntu
[01:22] <acicula> torchie: ubuntu netmix is just like ubuntu with a few special packages
[01:22] <^paradox^> acicula: i understand that and despite being in irc alot i love the operating system. its been much better to me than windows. but its often very complex
[01:22] <Klett> linux is better than windows
[01:22] <ActionParsnip>  torchie xubuntu will bne more responsive, if you like the remix ui then install it
[01:22] <Rav_Raynier> How do I change my keyboard layout?
[01:22] <Klett> not perfect but better
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Klett: in someways, imn others not so much
[01:22] <acicula> Klett: thats offtopic
[01:22] <torchie> no lies, I do like it
[01:22] <acicula> :P
[01:22] <desti> http://beta.heroesofnewerth.com Heroes of Newerth - Open Beta's beginning (no beta invite key required anymore)
[01:23] <torchie> can you change the font?
[01:23] <jsec> ActionParsnip: I flip between both desktops (gnome desktop, kde laptop). But if that's the case can I safely assume that as yakuake is a KDE app, it's not supported nor talked about here?
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> torchie: install it then dude
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> jsec: its supported here, some folks like to keep kde off their systems so will prefer gtk apps
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> jsec: if you have some kde apps installed then you can use any
[01:24] <jsec> ActionParsnip: OK. I was just trying to get an idea from people as to usability of the two, as I assume Guake is close enough to a gnome port of yakuake
[01:25] <RyanD> Anyone on here messed with PlayOnLinux, Steam specifically?
[01:25] <^paradox^> acicula: whats a reasonable expectation of whats going to happen if i stay with lts and upgrade my apps deb packages and ppas if needed?
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> jsec: pretty much, tilda is leaner though but there isnt much between them, i'd say try and see which you like
[01:25] <acicula> jsec: you can mix and match both environments, and install them side by side, just select the environment you want when logging in via gdm or kdm, but you can use gnome/kde progs interchangeably
[01:25] <tm0> Hi can anyone help me with Conky?
[01:25] <RyanD> Or rather any method of getting Steam working on Ubuntu that seems to...well...work
[01:25] <^paradox^> with*
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> RyanD: install wine
[01:25] <Klett> there are no intelligent questions
[01:26] <Klett> everything si sdoable
[01:26] <Klett> is
[01:26] <Charon_> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu to my UMPC, but the default video mode results in unreadable gibberish. I looked up how to change res (sudo nano etc/X11/xorg.conf), but there IS no xorg.conf to edit.
[01:26] <Klett> still we have managed to have computers not state supported
[01:26] <acicula> ^paradox^: well ppa's and lts is probably not a great recipy, just try updating to lts and see what ppas need renabling afterwards?
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> Klett: not everything
[01:26] <jsec> Acicula ActionParsnip: thanks for the insight guys. I'll start off with Tilda and go from there
[01:27] <ZykoticK9> Charon_, to create an xorg see http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/create-an-xorg-conf-file
[01:27] <Klett> my prob is infinite source of money
[01:27] <tm0> Hi can anyone help me with Conky?
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> !details | tm0
[01:28] <tm0> My problem with conky is that it shows on startup, but then disapears, once my wallpaper comes.
[01:29] <yeryry> "mount: mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/... on /root failed: No such device"  but if I use ls, it is there..
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> tm0: if you rerun it, does it stay?
[01:29] <tm0> Yes, but i can't close the terminal :/
[01:30] <^paradox^> acicula: that sounds like a pretty good plan. perhaps in the future therell be a distro where apps can be added by getting the deb or other clickable file then removing them with add/remove and i mean pretty much everything. does that sound like a farfetched fantasy? :-/
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> tm0: lauch it from an alt+f2 dialogue
[01:30] <Typos_King> Klett:   lemme help you with your 'prob' by unburdening you from 1billion US $, then
[01:30] <tm0> ActionParsnip , how then would i make it stay on startup? (I added conky to the started menu)
[01:30] <Dazzled> yeryry: what's the putput of 'blkid'
[01:31] <Pokeruler> http://tweetbaggery.com/2010/03/23/funny-celeb-tweets-that-leads-to-in-my-mind/
[01:31] <yeryry> ahh
[01:31] <acicula> ^paradox^: you can install deb's manually
[01:31] <yeryry> its the wrong drive.. the swap drive
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> tm0: you may need a small script to make conky wait a while then launch
[01:31] <ZykoticK9> tm0, in your rc file your using see if you have "own_window_hints undecorated,below,sticky,skip_taskbar,skip_pager"
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> yeryry: swap partition, not drive
[01:32] <yeryry> yep, sorry
[01:32] <acicula> ^paradox^: newer software needs newer libraries though, which is what causes the dependency woes, hence a 6 month update cycle rather then constant dependency nightmare hell
[01:32] <yeryry> sda5.. the only thing blkid shows (in the little shell)
[01:33] <tm0> Zykotick9 it is. Actionparsnip, would this be made as a shell file?
[01:33] <^paradox^> acicula: i guess i have a lot to learn
[01:33] <MrKeuner> hello, the sound-monitor applet disappeared from the gnome-panel. How can I get it back?
[01:33] <ZykoticK9> tm0, is it EXACTLY like that?
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> tm0: a bash script, yes
[01:33] <yeryry> so perhaps the UUID didn't change after all, and its just not seeing it now?
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> tm0: make a script to run:   sleep 20; conky &
[01:34] <MrKeuner> how can I restart the sound system? alsa-utils restart and hal restart did not get the sound-monitor applet back...
[01:34] <tm0> Zykotick9 verbatim. Actionparsnip, Thank you
[01:34] <sunshinepants> ActionParsnip: do you like to eat parsnips?
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> sunshinepants: they are tasty
[01:34] <sunshinepants> ActionParsnip: whoa
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> ?#
[01:35] <Charon_> Awesome, xorg.conf not exists
[01:36] <Charon_> thanks a lot
[01:36] <Charon_> *now
[01:36] <^paradox^> well im out for now. thanks everyone
[01:37] <jmspeex> For some reason, Karmic is actively trying to kill my HD. As soon as I switch to battery, it cycles my HD on/off every *second*. I have to manually use hdparm -B 255 to stop it every single time I switch to battery, which is getting annoying
[01:37] <sage_> wow thats gay
[01:38] <MrKeuner> jmspeex, I was suspecting that but how did you prove it?
[01:38] <jmspeex> Otherwise, smartctl shows Load_Cycle_Count increasing by one every second (and I hear about one click per second)
[01:38] <jmspeex> MrKeuner: What do you mean "how do I *prove* it"?
[01:39] <ravibn> can someone give me ideas for enabling security on my desktop ?
[01:39] <MrKeuner> jmspeex, how did you decide that it was HD turning off and on rather than something else that may do the click sound
[01:39] <jmspeex> MrKeuner: smartctl -a /dev/sda | grep Load_Cycle_Count
[01:40] <jmspeex> Also the fact that "hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda" makes it stop
[01:41] <ravibn> can someone give me ideas for enabling security on my desktop ?
[01:41] <yeryry> Dazzled: So, any idea why blkid isn't showing the other partitions? Or should it be?
[01:41] <psusi> jmspeex, what if you do hdparm -y /dev/sda?  does it spin down and stay spun down?
[01:41] <Dazzled> yeryry: not really, wat does 'cat /etc/fstab' show?
[01:43] <acicula> ravibn: what kind of security?
[01:43] <learn_unix> hi
[01:43] <learn_unix> can i get some help here please?
[01:43] <Dazzled> !ask
[01:44] <learn_unix> ok
[01:44] <learn_unix> what command do i use to check the cpu process percentage?
[01:44] <yeryry> Dazzled: I updated the fstab with the new UUID.. or what I thought was the new UUID, but might actually be the wrong one..
[01:44] <learn_unix> in linux, unix
[01:44] <jmspeex> psusi: I didn't spin down for more than a few seconds. But it *did* spin down. OTOH, what I normally hear when switching to battery is the click (assuming it's just packing the heads), but *without* the actual spin down
[01:44] <learn_unix> using sh shell
[01:45] <ZykoticK9> learn_unix, top ?
[01:45] <Dazzled> yeryry: I just loaded GParted
[01:45] <Dazzled> yeryry: and then rightclick the swap and then select 'Info'
[01:45] <psusi> jmspeex, sounds like you are running something that keeps touching the disk, and have a drive with buggy power saving mode that tries to spin down far too fast.. what does cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode say?
[01:45] <Dazzled> yeryry: it should show the UUID
[01:46] <learn_unix> yes but i want the total CPU process percent
[01:46] <chelz> jmspeex: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DanielHahler/Bug59695
[01:46] <chillindave> Anyone know how to configure Exim4 so it works with PHP to send emails to a remote SMTP server?
[01:46] <learn_unix> not in many lines
[01:46] <chillindave> I've gone through the documentation and I'm not having any luck.
[01:46] <jmspeex> psusi: now says "0", but I already did a "-B 255"
[01:47] <jmspeex> psusi: Apparently the *previous* HD I had also had this "bug". I'd start calling it a feature.
[01:47] <learn_unix> there is no command that can give me that in one value??
[01:48] <psusi> jmspeex, ohh, it should be non zero to have the kernel try to not touch the disk for as long as it can
[01:48] <__maroc__H> hi
[01:48] <Dazzled> learn_unix: there's a applet you can add to the panel
[01:48] <Dazzled> learn_unix: there's an applet you can add to the panel
[01:48] <willyg_cos> learn_unix - does "uptime" give you something closer to what you're looking for?
[01:48] <learn_unix> applet?
[01:48] <__maroc__H> help conio.h
[01:49] <learn_unix> I`ll try it just a sec
[01:49] <ZykoticK9> willyg_cos, uptime shows days since reboot
[01:49] <learn_unix> oh
[01:49] <learn_unix> mmm
[01:49] <learn_unix> i tried ps -eo
[01:49] <chelz> ZykoticK9: and load averages
[01:49] <ZykoticK9> chelz, true
 - and it should also show the system load at the end of the line...
[01:50] <jmspeex> psusi: setting laptop_mode to "1" allowed the disk to spin down for about 5-10 seconds instead of about 2.
[01:50] <ZykoticK9> willyg_cos, yes that's very true - i'd forgotten it showed that info actually
[01:50] <klettbar> dd
[01:50] <learn_unix> ok, another question please, how can i send an email using sendmail?? a sime email saying hello for example
[01:51] <learn_unix> *simple
[01:51] <psusi> learn_unix, man sendmail?
[01:51] <learn_unix> i did, but i dont uderstand a thing about its man
[01:51] <learn_unix> :S
[01:51] <learn_unix> i know how to use mail but sendmail, i dont
[01:51] <__maroc__H> hello
[01:51] <psusi> what part didn't you get?  the part about the recipient or the subject? ;)
[01:52] <furythor> Where to get help with VLC (Video Lan Client) ?
[01:52] <__maroc__H> I beging the C language but I don't found conio.h IN UNIX
[01:52] <learn_unix> well
[01:52] <ZykoticK9> furythor, i think the channel is #videolan (could be wrong)
[01:53] <jrib> __maroc__H: visit ##c
[01:53] <learn_unix> all of it i guess :p
[01:53] <jmspeex> But seriously, the wiki page mentions one power cycle every minute or so. My drive does one every *second*
[01:53] <sage_> lol
[01:53] <jmspeex> That's pretty bad
[01:53] <furythor> ZykoticK9: It is
[01:53] <learn_unix> i mean, mail, you just need to put mail -s "message" email
[01:53] <learn_unix> but sendmail i dont get it
[01:53] <jmspeex> especially because I need to do the -B 256 *every* time I unplug the AC adaptor
[01:53] <__maroc__H> WHERE ?
[01:54] <jrib> __maroc__H: ##c is a channel for help with C.  type: /join ##c
[01:54] <chelz> jmspeex: there's probably a script somewhere that runs when the powerstate changes
[01:54] <ICM> hey guys- is it possible pipe network traffic on a specific port (on any interface) through a script?
[01:54] <chelz> ICM: netcat
[01:54] <psusi> jmspeex, try looking in /etc/laptop_mode/ should be somewhere in there where you can turn that off
[01:54] <chelz> jmspeex: http://samwel.tk/laptop_mode/faq
[01:54] <Dazzled> nn
[01:55] <jmspeex> chelz: That's what I assume, but which one. I find it annoying that not only is Ubuntu not attempting to help, it's actively hurting
[01:55] <acicula> jmspeex: my disk clunks pretty often too when on battery, laptop mode helps some
[01:55] <ICM> chelz, netcat will do that for me?
[01:55] <__maroc__H> they told me ipossible to joint ##c
[01:55] <learn_unix> well thanks for your help anw guys, that was nice :)
[01:55] <__maroc__H> what can I do ?
[01:55] <jmspeex> Well, laptop mode itself is useless for me because even when on, it can't spin the disk down for more than 5-10 seconds. (Probably because I have a lot of stuff running)
[01:56] <chelz> jmspeex: a distro is not going to be able to instantly know every use scenario it might encounter. it's a work in progress. if you feel strongly about it, once you resolve this you can make sure it's a known bug.
[01:56] <jrib> __maroc__H: who told you?  Just type exactly: /join ##c
[01:56] <furythor> Gosh, I thought that there would be more "ready to go" solutions that I have found to use web server for other purposes than just those usual webpages
[01:56] <|sz|SheerCold> Hi I'm having problems booting my Karmic Koala distro installed via wubi.
[01:56] <|sz|SheerCold> It says kernel panic on boot.
[01:56] <|sz|SheerCold> And some other text
[01:56] <chelz> ICM: it might do what you want, man netcat
[01:56] <ZykoticK9> !register > __maroc__H
[01:56] <jmspeex> chelz: Well, it appears from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DanielHahler/Bug59695 that it's already far too well known
[01:57] <psusi> jmspeex, what if you do -B 128 instead of 254?
[01:57] <|sz|SheerCold> Can anyone help me possibly?
[01:57] <chelz> jmspeex: if that's your bug then the workarounds should work. do the workarounds work for you?
[01:57] <__maroc__H> ubott
[01:57] <|sz|SheerCold> Aww :(
[01:57] <jmspeex> psusi: Just tried it -- still the power cycles every second
[01:58] <chelz> |sz|SheerCold: wait for a while. don't be impatient.
[01:58] <psusi> jmspeex, looks like you want to edit /etc/laptop_mode/laptop_mode.conf and change BATT_HD_POWERMGMT=1
[01:58] <|sz|SheerCold> chelz: excuse my impatience.
[01:58] <ZykoticK9> __maroc__H, if you can't join ##c (i was able too), it's cause your not using a registered nic - thus be sending you the !register bot message
[01:58] <jrib> ZykoticK9: ##c doesn't require registration
[01:58] <jmspeex> chelz: The work around of doing a "hdparm -B 255" works -- except that Ubuntu sets it back to 1 (or whatever it is) every time I unplug the AC adaptor. That's why I say it's actively doing harm
[01:58] <ZykoticK9> jrib, ok - i was just guessing as i had no problem joining.  sorry __maroc__H
[01:59] <jmspeex> psusi: I don't have a /etc/laptop_mode actually
[01:59] <chelz> |sz|SheerCold: this might help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Troubleshooting
[01:59] <vj23x> does anybody know about pureData?
[01:59] <ZykoticK9> jrib, is there some way to tell when you join a channel if it requires registration or not?
[01:59] <chelz> jmspeex: sounds like whatever is setting it to 1 could be used to set it to 255
[01:59] <jrib> ZykoticK9: it will have mode +r
[02:00] <ZykoticK9> jrib, thanks
[02:00] <jrib> ZykoticK9: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[02:00] <jmspeex> chelz: Sure, but what is it? And *why* is it doing that in the first place?
[02:01] <ZykoticK9> jrib, "when all else fails, read the instructions" ;) sorry - i'm guilty of not reading the instructions often
[02:01] <acicula> jmspeex: power saving
[02:01] <chelz> jmspeex: reading over this might help, it's the bug linked to at the top of that wiki page: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695
[02:01] <furythor> where tomcat6 settings are defined ?
[02:01] <jrib> ZykoticK9: no problem, it's not obvious that you should look at that link :)
[02:01] <chelz> jmspeex: that bug seems to be set to 'fix released'
[02:02] <jmspeex> chelz: "fix released" for what version. It definitely isn't fixed on Karmic
[02:02] <chelz> jmspeex: that leads me to believe it's not what you're experiencing
[02:04] <jmspeex> chelz: Actually, I just saw that my laptop mode config file sets "1" for the HD power management when on battery. Doesn't look very intelligent as far as I'm concerned
[02:04] <mypcwontstart> I was running bleachbit when my system crashed. Now when I start up my system, it gives me an error "Mount of root file system failed". I have full disk encryption on it. Could anyone help?
[02:04] <chelz> jmspeex: check if there's a bug filed for it
[02:05] <jmspeex> chelz: Well, you just pointed to the bug
[02:05] <RyanD> I need a shell I can SSH into so I can IRC at work via PuTTy (protocol is blocked)
[02:05] <jmspeex> Besides, I stopped filing bugs in Launchpad a few years ago
[02:05] <RyanD> Suggestions?
[02:06] <chelz> jmspeex: make sure that bug actually applies to you before reopening it. it is marked fixed afterall
[02:06] <nathanhelp> jmspeex: Whys that?
[02:06] <chelz> jmspeex: can't help ya then
[02:06] <jmspeex> nathanhelp: Because nothing I ever files got fixed
[02:06] <nathanhelp> oh.
[02:06] <yeryry> Hmm...gparted shows no UUID for that partition!
[02:06] <jmspeex> chelz: Well, at least you helped in pointing me to the right config file
[02:06] <chelz> jmspeex: it's more than filing, you have to keep up with the bug and help maintainers fix it
[02:06] <chelz> don't be lazy
[02:07] <nathanhelp> Your choice then.
[02:07] <jmspeex> That's already more useful than launchpad!
[02:07] <acicula> jmspeex: its a factor of power saving and disk depenent, also done to keep the disk temperature down iirc
[02:07] <acicula> jmspeex: not all disks are affected, and you can toggle the power saving in laptop mode
[02:08] <nathanhelp> I need help with something simple (I hope!) how do I change the default download/save to directory? I want to save to different HD not the desktop.
[02:09] <acicula> jmspeex: note that a typical value for a laptop disks for that is around 300k cycles
[02:09] <jmspeex> nathanhelp: You can see the bugs I filed (under jmspeex) and what happened to them.
[02:09] <histo> nathanhelp: edit preferences
[02:10] <jmspeex> acicula: When your disk cycles every *second*, you know something's not normal. It's actually the rattle I find most annoying
[02:10] <histo> nathanhelp: in firefox
[02:10] <utggbjj> great
[02:11] <acicula> jmspeex: did you try disabling hd power saving in the laptop mode config?
[02:11] <jmspeex> nathanhelp: FYI, as a FOSS developer myself (see Speex, CELT), I'm selective about projects for which I bother reporting bugs. gcc and a few other projects always gets my bug reports. Ubuntu no longer does.
[02:12] <jmspeex> acicula: that's what I just tried. I'll see when I plug it bac in and unplug again
[02:13] <nathanhelp> thanks histo. That was it. :)
[02:13] <utggbjj> wrong chan :) btw, does any INF files or firmware exist on the ubuntu karmic 700 min cd? to be used With broadcom and ndiswrapper
[02:14] <jmspeex> Probably the most "interesting" report I filed was 52600 against Dapper. Any local user can hang the machine (SCHED_FIFO, while(1)) and the 2-liner fix has never been applies
[02:14] <histo> utggbjj: I believe the broadcomm cards work withthe cd so yes.
[02:14] <acicula> jmspeex: i think ubuntu does not submit patches upstream
[02:14] <acicula> jmspeex: probably why?
[02:15] <yeryry> hmm.... tune2fs shows the UUID correctly, but gparted and blkid show nothing..
[02:15] <histo> jmspeex: the bug is still present in current versions?
[02:15] <jmspeex> histo: No, but as far as I know, it's still in Dapper
[02:16] <histo> jmspeex: well isn't support for dapper dropped already?
[02:16] <nathanhelp> Is it worthwhile installing Ubuntu on Flashdrive or should I just stick with a standard install?
[02:16] <histo> nathanhelp: what do you mean by worthwhile?
[02:16] <jmspeex> histo: Maybe it was just dropped. But the bug was filed in 2006!
[02:16] <histo> jmspeex: was dapper lts?
[02:16] <utggbjj> did I post something? can't believe it but Im on My iPhone with à webchat, erh.
[02:16] <jmspeex> histo: yes
[02:16] <histo> jmspeex: well 18 months so it would have been done in 07
[02:17] <ZykoticK9> histo, believe it or not - Dapper is still supported on server
[02:17] <jmspeex> Oh, there's actually one bug that I got fixed. It was for Speex itself and it took me one full year to push the 2-line patch (that I wrote as maintainer) down the package maintainers' throats
[02:18] <jmspeex> histo: what's 18 months?
[02:18] <prayii> Does Ubuntu work well on SSD's?
[02:18] <histo> jmspeex: lts support back then I thought
[02:18] <histo> jmspeex: nvm
[02:18] <histo> jmspeex: i'm wrong on that.
[02:18] <histo> prayii: yes
[02:18] <psusi> jmspeex, normal users can't set real time process priority
[02:19] <jmspeex> histo: lts is supposed to be 3 years (5 on servers) AFAICT
[02:19] <psusi> prayii, works better than well, it's friggin awesome ;)
[02:19] <jmspeex> psusi: On Dapper, you could (and probably still can). I tested it myself. It's due to faulty rlimits config
[02:20] <histo> jmspeex: yeah I was wrong.
[02:20] <prayii> psusi: I'm looking at getting a new laptop. Upgrading to a SSD worth it? Do they have a shorter lifespan than a regular HDD?
[02:20] <kimocoder> yes, it would be worth it for booting.
[02:20] <psusi> prayii, not supposed to if you have a decent one
[02:20] <psusi> prayii, I got one last week for my desktop... boot up in 10 seconds now
[02:21] <nathanhelp> (Haha. I love how Ubuntu works. It just does. My computer HD on Windows (various versions) have crashed and can't handle the running, whereas Ubuntu works fine. I reckon Ubuntu would work on a shellshock HD dipped in water after acid been poured on it!)
[02:21] <prayii> i turn my laptop on and off a lot, so the boot performance would be awesome
[02:21] <jmspeex> psusi: The /etc/security/limits.conf file allows you to control who can set RT priority. On dapper, it was configured to allow all users to do so. As I said, the fix was two lines but was never applied for some reason
[02:21] <Tm_T> ZTG|Taekwondo: hi
[02:21] <kimocoder> other applications could you leave on a sata 2 drive. so everything you will run applications faster, you do it from the SSD drive. since it don't have lots of storage.
[02:22] <judgepg> prayii: There are a few tweaks for SSD's you can apply to minimize write, and you shouldn't be concerned in general about wear
[02:23] <kimocoder> oops, some typos there. sorry
[02:23] <prayii> I don't keep much on my laptop. Small size doesn't bother me.
[02:23] <wash> I'm having some trouble installing G++ on ubuntu 9.10 server,
[02:23] <kimocoder> prayii: then you have a nice solution.
[02:23] <kimocoder> wash: state your problem
[02:23] <wash>  g++: Depends: gcc (>= 4:4.4.1-1ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[02:24] <wash>        Depends: g++-4.4 (>= 4.4.1-1) but it is not going to be installed
[02:24] <wash>        Depends: gcc-4.4 (>= 4.4.1-1) but it is not going to be installed
[02:24] <kimocoder> don't flood the channel please, i understand.
[02:24] <kimocoder> i'll check from my servers.
[02:24] <wash> Running ubuntu 9.10 server edition, with a LAMP package installed and openbox. Oh, sorry
[02:24] <oopsfire> Any one know a good app to diagnose/fix bad sectors on a hd outside of fsck which is not doing the trick?
[02:24] <Raptors> hey guys, I tried to install oidentd from repo but its not there so I complied it from source, how do I start it
[02:24] <maco> oopsfire: badblocks
[02:24] <Raptors> ?
[02:25] <maco> oopsfire: fsck doesnt fix bad sectors. it just fixes filesystem issues.
[02:25] <Raptors> It doesn't say in man
[02:25] <acicula> oopsfire: if the disk is bad best to backup
[02:25] <maco> Raptors: i think you ned to ask the orientd people that. if its not in the repos, we're unlikely to know how it works
[02:25] <ZTG> Good evening persons!
[02:25] <oopsfire> guys, I am unable to back up or even mount that partition on the disk
[02:25] <ZTG> XD
[02:25] <acicula> oopsfire: partition table broken?
[02:25] <maco> oopsfire: you sound screwed
[02:25] <prayii> I've heard that the ATI cards don't work quite as well as the nVidias because of the drivers. Is that just really for gaming? Can the ATI drivers handle 3D desktop effects no problem?
[02:25] <IdleOne> oidentd is in the repos
[02:26] <Raptors> maco, it use to be in repo...
[02:26] <wash> at kimocoder: I think I may have just screwed something up, I'm just not particularly adept with aptitude/dpkg.
[02:26] <maco> oopsfire: software cannot fix a hardware issue
[02:26] <Aquina> opsfire I agree with maco -- save your data and replace the drive ASAP.
[02:26] <oopsfire> I have 2 partitions on the disk,, one with win on it,, which mounts fine,, but the ubuntu partition does not mount
[02:26] <jsec> ZTG, good evening person
[02:26] <acicula> oopsfire: what does fsck say?
[02:26] <kimocoder> wash: have you checked the package dependencies?
[02:26] <ZTG> ^_^
[02:26] <Raptors> itializing package states... Done
[02:26] <Raptors> No candidate version found for oidentd
[02:26] <Raptors> No candidate version found for oidentd
[02:26] <FloodBot1> Raptors: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:26] <ZykoticK9> prayii, as an example - currently the ATI driver doesn' even work in Lucid, but Nvidia works fine
[02:26] <oopsfire> I get as million Error reading block 1051 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while getting next inode from scan.  Ignore error<y>?
[02:26] <ZTG> I fell on my back.
[02:26] <oopsfire> errors
[02:26] <wash> kimocoder: not sure how to.
[02:26] <kimocoder> wash: try fix them from aptitude ..
[02:26] <ZTG> ;_;
[02:26] <kimocoder> ok
[02:26] <IdleOne> maco: oidentd (source: oidentd): replacement ident daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.8-1.2 (karmic), package size 50 kB, installed size 204 kB
[02:26] <prayii> ZykoticK9: Will the ATI driver be working before release?
[02:27] <wash> I can navigate aptitude pretty well, i've just never had to deal with dependency problems before,
[02:27] <ZykoticK9> prayii, that's up to ATI
[02:27] <kimocoder> wash: i will give you a solution in 1 min
[02:27] <prayii> ZykoticK9: thats bad news. lol
[02:27] <ZTG> This is a big channel...
[02:27] <maco> IdleOne: wow i fail at reading
[02:27] <wash> at kimocoder; thanks
[02:27] <ZykoticK9> prayii, there are the opensource ATI drivers of course
[02:27] <oopsfire> I believe it is a logical issue,, not physical. Since I can still access the windows partition on the same disk
[02:27] <Aquina> wash waht if you enter "sudo apt-get install gcc"? Does it fix the dependency issue for g++?
[02:27] <IdleOne> maco: was there and you missed it huh :)
[02:27] <acicula> oopsfire: thats not an indication the disk is still ood
[02:27] <acicula> *good
[02:27] <maco> IdleOne: i read it as "orientd"
[02:28] <IdleOne> lol
[02:28] <wash> I get:        Depends: g++-4.4 (>= 4.4.1-1) but it is not going to be installed
[02:28] <wash>        Depends: gcc-4.4 (>= 4.4.1-1) but it is not going to be installed
[02:28] <maco> oopsfire: try badblocks. also try smartctl to check drive diagnostics
[02:28] <ZTG> This is confusing.
[02:28] <prayii> thank you everyone! lots of good information here.
[02:28] <nathanhelp> How far away is 10.04?
[02:28] <oopsfire> acicula, Right, I'd like to be able to mount the partition, so I can back it up if possible,, then replace the hd
[02:28] <acicula> oopsfire: fsck has a badblocks option and autofix and such, you could try to et it to sort the issues with that
[02:28] <ZykoticK9> nathanhelp, 30 days from today :)
[02:28] <taoist> Hi, I have a ubuntu box that has full access to the LAN no WAN connection and is set to be in DMZ. Could I have a problem with my routes?
[02:28] <nathanhelp> oh.
[02:28] <IdleOne> ZTG: you get used to it, think of it as the code in the matrix after a while all you see is red,brown,yellow,car...
[02:28] <Aquina> nathanhelp a few weeks from now
[02:29] <ZTG> XD
[02:29] <oopsfire> maco, ok, I'll try badblocks, I've gone the smartctl route
[02:29] <kimocoder> wash: don't paste flood. i understand your problem.
[02:29] <nathanhelp> "lol" then. I just DLed 9.10. will it updgrade well from there or will I have to reDL?
[02:29] <acicula> oopsfire: as a recovery method, using dd to dump it contents works in absense of a working filesystem
[02:29] <ZTG> What was the +j?
[02:29] <acicula> oopsfire: cooling the disks can also help with datarecovery
[02:29] <kimocoder> wash: terminal > wget ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gcc/gcc-4.4.3/gcc-4.4.3.tar.gz | tar -zxvf gcc-4.4.3.tar.gz
[02:29] <acicula> oopsfire: carefull that you select test only, bb also has an intensive surface test option that erases data
[02:30] <hooge1kanobi> Okay, here i go again.  I'm having issues getting samba up and going on my 9.10 install.
[02:30] <hooge1kanobi> I accidentaly cleared my smb.conf file.  So I uninstalled all of samba from Synaptic Package Mgr.  Then did the sudo apt-get install samba.  Only problem is it did not re-create the smb.conf file.  Any suggestions?
[02:30] <IdleOne> ZTG: freenode.net has a list of all the modes and definitions
[02:30] <ZTG> Oh.
[02:30] <Aquina> oopsfire it's gererally abad sign wehn a significant number of blocks become bad. Internal drive logic can mark bad ones as such, but I'd backup my data though.
[02:30] <ZTG> Well, can you tell me, I am feeling lazy? XD
[02:30] <ZTG> IdleOne: Well, can you tell me, I am feeling lazy? XD
[02:30] <nathanhelp> ZykoticK9 & Aquina: will 9.10 upgrade well from 9.10 or will I need to reDL?
[02:30] <ZykoticK9> ZTG, http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[02:30] <maco> ZTG: thats not exactly the purpose of this channel
[02:30] <oopsfire> acicula, Lolgrr.. I even put the hd in the fridge for a few minutes as I've heard that, and have knocked it around a bit heh. I was able to get the pc to boot in to ubuntu once,, and it locked up and I haven't been ale to get in since
[02:30] <ZTG> Ikay.
[02:30] <jsec> ZTG: it's throttling the number of users that can join the channel in one second. !ot
[02:31] <kimocoder> wash: then you may need this..: wget ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gcc/gcc-4.4.3/gcc-g++-4.4.3.tar.gz | tar -zxvf gcc-g++-4.4.3.tar.gz | cd gcc-gc++-4.4.3 | sh ./configure | make | make install
[02:31] <IdleOne> ZTG: yeah, umm I can go and read it and tell you but then you won't learn anything :-)
[02:31] <ZykoticK9> nathanhelp, ?
[02:31] <maco> oopsfire: freezer > fridge
[02:31] <nathanhelp> * sorry I meant from 9 -> 10.
[02:31] <wash> So just build it myself, basically, without using apt?
[02:31] <oopsfire> sigh & stuff
[02:31] <acicula> oopsfire: dont boot the disk, use a livecd, do a quick check and go straight to dumping your data
[02:31] <ZykoticK9> nathanhelp, i'm not personally a fan of upgrading, but hopefully there will be fewer issues then the 9.04 -> 9.10
[02:31] <acicula> oopsfire: id start with windows
[02:32] <oopsfire> acicula, right
[02:32] <kimocoder> wash: exactly.
[02:32] <oopsfire> I'm using ubuntu live disk now
 You can perform an upgrade but I advise you to folow the upgrade recommendations. For productive systems I'd run upgrade on a testmachine before.
[02:32] <MetaPhaze> how can i find out where the packages put their files... for example equery f ogre would show me the location that it installed every file in the package in gentoo... is there something similar in ubuntu?
[02:32] <oopsfire> And it will not mount the ubuntu partition
[02:32] <acicula> oopsfire: i mean with dumping the win partition since that works
[02:32] <oopsfire> But it mounts the win partition just fine
[02:32] <acicula> oopsfire: try dumping the partition with dd
[02:32] <blakkheim> MetaPhaze: man dpkg
[02:32] <acicula> !datarecovery
[02:32] <nathanhelp> ZykoticK9: How do you mean not a fan of upgrading? Do you wipe clean and start over as opposed to upgrading?
[02:32] <IdleOne> !recover
[02:33] <Neezer> How can I check my connection speed to my router?
[02:33] <blakkheim> nathanhelp: i do that
[02:33] <MetaPhaze> ubuntu still uses dpkg, ok
[02:33] <ZykoticK9> nathanhelp, i do yes
[02:33] <acicula> !undelete | oopsfire
[02:33] <Aquina> wash you can build g++ yourself with "sudo apt-get install -b <package>". This may require you to install "apt-build".
[02:33] <jmspeex> psusi: Just tried and even editing the laptop-mode config file didn't help
[02:33] <Neezer> I just got a shiny new gigabit router with wireless N. I'd like to check both speeds.
[02:33] <kimocoder> Neezer: you should have choosen WRT54GL or somelike ;)
[02:33] <Aquina> Nevertheless I think your system is broken, wash. g++ and gcc install without problems on a newly installed ubuntu system.
[02:33] <oopsfire> acicula, You wouldn't happen to have a link that explains it a bit in detail?
[02:34] <IdleOne> Neezer: speedtest.net perhaps
[02:34] <oopsfire> dumpi ng it with dd
[02:34] <oopsfire> etc
[02:34] <Neezer> kimocoder, I'm not really sure what you mean....
[02:34] <IdleOne> Neezer: not really an ubuntu related question
[02:34] <acicula> oopsfire: see the datarecovery link it details doing it with dd
[02:34] <chelz> MetaPhaze: dpkg -S
[02:34] <nathanhelp> Will 9.10 ISO work from flash drive? I want to eventually end up with Ubuntu working FROM my flash drive.
[02:34] <kimocoder> aah, misunderstood that one :)
[02:34] <jmspeex> OK, apparently *disabling* laptop mode completely worked
[02:34] <Neezer> IdleOne, I know, but i'm running ubuntu.
[02:34] <acicula> basically you tell dd to copy from the partition /dev/sda1 and to a file not on your disk and to ignore errors
[02:35] <terry_> Neezer: Download a large file from one pc to the other and time it. Or turn on ftp server on one and download via ftp
[02:35] <chelz> MetaPhaze: basically read the manpages for dpkg and apt-cache
[02:35] <kimocoder> Aquina: there seems to be a bug along the gcc/compiler pack in Ubuntu 9.10. experienced that on all my 9.10 servers
[02:35] <oopsfire> ok thanks acicula maco
[02:35] <hooge1kanobi> Any body have any experience with re-creating a smb.conf file?
[02:35] <oopsfire> I'll give it a shot
[02:35] <Neezer> thanks terry_
[02:35] <chelz> Neezer: smallnetbuilder might have some benchmarking methods
[02:35] <terry_> Neezer: You can also install apache web server on one and download files via firefox .
[02:35] <acicula> hooge1kanobi: the default config file? just apt-get install --reinstall samba
[02:36] <acicula> hooge1kanobi: may have to remove the smb.conf file first
[02:36] <nathanhelp> !pendrive
[02:36] <hooge1kanobi> Okay
[02:36] <acicula> !usb | nathanhelp
[02:36] <Aquina> oh. that explains alot, kimocoder. I was wondering an ordinary g++ installation xould cause so much trouble. Has a bug report already been filed on launchpad?
[02:36] <Neezer> thanks guys....another quick question....I've rebooted my server via command line from ssh....how can I just shut it completely down?
[02:36] <nathanhelp> thanks acicula
 what do you mean by "re-creating"?
[02:37] <kimocoder> Neezer: shutdown -h now "MESSAGE"
[02:37] <ZykoticK9> Neezer, "sudo shutdown -h now"
[02:37] <hooge1kanobi> I changed the "workgroup" and hit save.
[02:37] <acicula> Neezer: halt
[02:37] <psusi> jmspeex, did you refresh the daemon?
[02:37] <hooge1kanobi> later went back and the file was blank
[02:37] <chelz> Neezer: sudo poweroff
[02:37] <Aquina> Neezer try «sudo shutdown -h "now"»
[02:37] <Neezer> thanks all! kimocoder, ZykoticK9, chelz
[02:38] <chelz> Neezer: "man poweroff" is good
[02:39] <ZykoticK9> Neezer, i like the variety of answers you got for a simple question :)  always more then 1 way to do thing in unix/linux
[02:39] <Aquina> :-)
[02:39] <Aquina> Yeah I totally forgot about poweroff. But I wrote a nice chack and shutdown/reboot-script. Wanna see?
[02:40] <jeeez> hi, where can i find the partitions list that gets mounted when i start ubuntu? its not in /etc/fstab...
[02:40] <natesbrain> hi! I'm looking for some help with the liveCD, i just built a new box and the liveCD isn't getting anywhere
[02:40] <natesbrain> i was hoping someone could help me debug?
[02:41] <Aquina> jeeez look in /etc/mtab
[02:41] <chelz> natesbrain: is the livecd hanging?
[02:41] <nathanhelp> USB installation : the way I want to do it is a bit different. Will this way work? -> I am booting off a Live 7.10 CD. I have saved my 9.10 ISO to my HD (which will not boot). I want to PUT the 9.10 ISO onto my flash drive (or run it from here), run the LIVE 9.10 ISO, create a working persistant 9.10 ON my flash drive.
[02:41] <natesbrain> yes
 What do you men by "anywhere"? Can you be a bit more specific?
[02:41] <natesbrain> it starts out ok, with the glowing logo
[02:41] <chelz> natesbrain: at what point does it hang? what can you do before it hangs?
[02:41] <natesbrain> and then goes black, and unresponsive
[02:42] <natesbrain> i can hit f1 and see that it can't find /dev/sr0
[02:42] <chelz> nathanhelp: have you checked the md5sum of the 9.10 iso?
[02:42] <nathanhelp> natesbrain: sounds like a resolution problem after it boots into the UI
[02:42] <jeeez> Aquina: okay, i see it now! if i moved it to fstab, will other window managers load it automatically when logging in?
[02:42] <nathanhelp> chelz: how do I do that? and why would I?
[02:42] <chelz> nathanhelp: why are you unable to boot to that iso?
[02:43] <natesbrain> i read a post about maybe ati drivers being the problem?
[02:43] <natesbrain> I have a Radeon HD 5450
[02:43] <Aquina> In case you move it correctly to fstab (obey syntax) it will be mounted averytime.
[02:43] <nathanhelp> chelz: I haven't tried yet. But the methods described in the USB boot help files are different. Would it work if I boot from that ISO from the flash drive or is there another step I have to do?
[02:43] <nullkuhl> hello, i try to boot with karmic cd on HP envy 15 laptop, i get : Fail in evaluating the _REG object of EC device, Broken BIOS is Suspected.. , i went to hp website to check for bios updates, found nothing there. plz advice ! i cant install/run ubuntu :S
[02:43] <martianlobster> what is the latest stable build?  10.04 ?
[02:43] <GSF1200S> libv4lconvert: warning more framesizes then I can handle! << I get this when trying to open cheese. It loads, but will not show any data. Webcam works in skype
[02:43] <acicula> martianlobster: 9.10
[02:44] <martianlobster> acicula:  thanks
[02:44] <Guest70684> Hi, I've got a netbook: XP, and I'm putting on UNR
[02:44] <wad> Okay, why is there no /boot/grub/menu.lst on this new Ubuntu/Windows box?
[02:44] <rww> martianlobster: 9.10. 10.04 is (hopefully) going stable at the end of next month.
[02:44] <Guest70684> Any suggestions on how big I might want the UNR partition?
[02:44] <martianlobster> rww thanks
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> wad:  grub2 dosent use menu.lst
[02:44] <Guest70684> I was thinking ~25GB?
[02:44] <chelz> nathanhelp: you can install 9.10 to your flashdrive right from your current ubuntu install
[02:44] <acicula> !grub2 | wad because of grub2, look here
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[02:44] <ubutom2> natesbrain, I thought my cd was broken too, but it was just sleeping some time after inserting, haveyou triedto wait a while?
[02:44] <wad> Thanks, guys!
[02:44] <rww> Guest70684: that should be fine. The system recommendations say at least 8GB.
[02:44] <acicula> Guest70684: thats more then enough for ubuntu
[02:45]  * rww personally uses 10GB
[02:45] <natesbrain> yeah, off and on over the last two days
[02:45] <Guest70684> 10GB eh?
[02:45] <terry_> Guest70684: What is UNR?
[02:45] <hcl2> so now it's like lilo?
[02:45] <nathanhelp> chelz: how do I go about doing that from the 7.10 Live that I'm working in? What does the 9.10 USB creater do?
[02:45] <Guest70684> terry_: Netbook remix
[02:45] <acicula> hcl2: no, lilo is very different :P
[02:45] <natesbrain> if I can get it drop to the command line again, is there something I can do from there?
[02:45] <natesbrain> I'm very comfortable with command line operations
[02:45] <Guest70684> Well I have a 160GB HDD in this, so.. 12GB for XP, whatever for linux, then a shared common partition
[02:45] <nullkuhl> hello, i try to boot with karmic cd on HP envy 15 laptop, i get : Fail in evaluating the _REG object of EC device, Broken BIOS is Suspected.. , i went to hp website to check for bios updates, found nothing there. plz advice ! i cant install/run ubuntu :S
[02:46] <natesbrain> but if I understand LiveCDs correctly, that's not a full system
[02:46] <psusi> hcl2, lilo is to grub what dos is to linux ;)
[02:46] <Guest70684> I'd also like a purely terminal based distro for when I only want ssh and stuff :p Ideas?
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> Guest70684:  theres the ubuntu server editiion.
[02:47] <hcl2> but, the one benefit of grub over lilo is that you didn't have to run any command after editing the file menu.lst
[02:47] <acicula> Guest70684: linuxfromscratch
[02:47] <blakkheim> Guest70684: gentoo
[02:47] <acicula> actually ubuntus-server is probably easier
[02:47] <blakkheim> but still bloated
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> hcl2:  that was one little benifit.. but grub2 has so many more features then grub
[02:47] <Guest70684> I did think lfs, but I should be doing coursework now, not playing with lfs :/ Summer maybe
[02:47] <psusi> nullkuhl, try booting with the noacpi option?
[02:47] <Tm_T> blakkheim: bloated?
[02:47] <Guest70684> blakkheim: That's the point, I want something very lightweight :)
[02:47] <chelz> nathanhelp: are you able to boot to 9.10 somehow?
[02:47] <Guest70684> Fast booting
[02:47] <blakkheim> Guest70684: exactly, so avoid ubuntu
[02:48] <nullkuhl> psusi: where would i type that
[02:48] <chelz> Guest70684: probably ubuntu server but also debian could work
[02:48] <Berzerker> what's the % for 12-hour time in xchat?
[02:48] <psusi> hcl2, another one is that if your config is messed up you still get a grub command prompt you can use to do some probing and manually tell it how to boot
[02:48] <Tm_T> Guest70684: install Ubuntu as cli-only install, no extra services or anything, just minimal system
[02:48] <nathanhelp> chelz: :D that's what I want to do!
[02:48] <hcl2> Dr_Willis: features schmeatures... I only interact with grub about once a month, mostly i suspend desktops and laptops
[02:48] <nullkuhl> psusi: never mind, acpi=off or noapic ?
[02:48] <chelz> blakkheim: #ubuntu isn't a good channel to be in if you're going to tell people to not use ubuntu.
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> Guest70684:  should i point out that the next reelase boots in like 20 sec here on most of my machines. :)
[02:49] <nathanhelp> chelz: Tell you what. I'll try it. And come back here if it doesn't work.
[02:49] <Guest70684> Tm_T: Oh, you can do that? Cool
[02:49] <psusi> nullkuhl, assuming you are trying to boot the livecd, it's one of the suggested options on the menu when you choose the boot options menu selection, which iirc, was like F6 or something
[02:49] <Guest70684> Dr_Willis: Netbook ;) It's slow
[02:49] <hcl2> i'm not saying lilo is better or not, i'm just saying we've come full circle back to having to run a command after editing your boot loader files
[02:49] <chelz> nathanhelp: what OSes can you get do atm?
[02:49] <GSF1200S> cheese will not work with my webcam, does anyone have any ideas?
[02:49] <chelz> get to*
[02:49] <nullkuhl> psusi: yes, :) but which options noapic or acpi=off or nolapic..
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> Guest70684:  my netbook boots in under 30 sec. proberly less.. this is to the desktop also..
[02:49] <ZTG> I know how to ban!
[02:49] <nathanhelp> chelz: None. My win XP failed. Won
[02:49] <Aquina> Can someone tel me it's local time?
[02:49] <nathanhelp> chelz: It won't boot.
[02:50] <psusi> nullkuhl, acpi=off
[02:50] <Tm_T> Aquina: 0450
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> hcl2:  grub2 has much more complex configs and the config files actually are bash scripts.. thats just how it is.
[02:50] <chelz> nathanhelp: so you only have a 7.10 livecd or something?
[02:50] <Guest70684> Dr_Willis: Interesting.. Ubuntu 8.10 takes quite a while atm on mine
[02:50] <psusi> nullkuhl, hell, try them all and see if one of them works for you
[02:50] <nathanhelp> chelz: So what I did was grab my old 7.10 cd and ran the Live.
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Guest70684:  8.10 is proberly not the ideal one for a netbook either.
[02:50] <Icderion> hi
[02:50] <Guest70684> Dr_Willis: Hence I'm getting rid of it
[02:51] <johntramp> hi is it possible to have applications like gftp use aria2 to download?
[02:51] <nathanhelp> chelz: Hoping to run the 9.10 ISO live then install onto the same flashdrive. don't know if it'll work.
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> Guest70684:  been testing Lucid here. Its working very well on my AAO.
[02:51] <davep> who wrote the ubuntu net installer? i need to send angry emails
[02:52] <chelz> nathanhelp: 'same flashdrive'? what is the flashdrive currently doing?
[02:52] <Tm_T> !bug > davep
[02:52] <Guest70684> Dr_Willis: I'll try UNR for now, then when I'm bored probably put a cli only on
[02:52] <kimocoder> flash-devices are normaly small partitions.
[02:52] <hcl2> one thing I didn't find in the wiki is how to put the mini.iso onto a usb drive.  if you have grub already on your comp, just add an entry to the file "linux" and the initrd.gz.  way simpler than running syslinux or isolinux or fsking the drive
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> Guest70684:  i dont see the point of cli only on a netbook...
[02:52] <blakkheim> hcl2: unetbootin would work
[02:52] <davep> its not a bug, its awful design
[02:52] <blakkheim> Dr_Willis: i use cli only on my netbook
[02:52] <davep> it asks if you want to install grub to "the mbr"
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> Guest70684:  i find the Kde netbook interface nicer
[02:52] <kimocoder> hcl2: or you could use http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net - tip for everyone
[02:52] <nathanhelp> chelz: nothing atm since im using the 7.10 live. I just wanted to check. oh wait...OS'es don't boot off ISO files do they?
[02:52] <davep> without telling you with disk it wants to mutilate
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> blakkheim:  and i dont see the point. :)
[02:52] <davep> which disk*
[02:52] <kimocoder> use http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net - tip for everyone
[02:53] <blakkheim> Dr_Willis: fast, no wasted resources (which are very limited)
[02:53] <Guest30020> hy
[02:53] <Guest70684> Exactly
[02:53] <kimocoder> there you may add .iso files or kernel + initrd + parameters
[02:53] <Guest30020> can i ask something
[02:53] <nullkuhl> psusi: with acpi=off it says IO apic resources could be not be allocated
[02:53] <Guest30020> helllo
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> blakkheim:  i run a full desktop just fine on mine.  kde4+ all the goodies.
[02:53] <OWNSyouAll> go ahead guest30020
[02:53] <Guest30020> can i ask something
[02:53] <davep> if then gives you an option to manually type the name of the disk, but doesnt list the disks. if you go back to the partition tool to see a disk list, then return to installing grub, it tells you that you cant install grub until you've finished partitioning
[02:53] <blakkheim> Dr_Willis: and i don't see the point :)
[02:53] <hcl2> unetbootin = way too much work
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> blakkheim:  resources not in use are wasted.. plus id hate to use the keyboard on the netbook all day long. but mine is mainly a err.. video player at work. :)
 State your question, please.
[02:54] <chelz> nathanhelp: they do not
[02:54] <andrew____> Dr_Willis: Mine is almost full size keyboard
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> actually the 'server' install may not like a netbook.
[02:55] <chelz> nathanhelp: if you can burn a 9.10 iso somehow to install it, that would probably be best
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> unetbootin way too much work? about 3 clicks and its done..
[02:55] <chelz> nathanhelp: i was looking into getting a usb-creator tool installed so you could make a 9.10 usb install but it would not be easy on gutsy
[02:55] <Wren88> hi does anybody know if virtual box machine hard disk can be backed while the vm is running?
[02:56] <chelz> Dr_Willis: well unetbootin isn't persistent, but that might work
[02:56] <ZykoticK9> Wren88, probably NOT a good idea
[02:56] <ykphuah1> is 1004 scheduled to be at the end of April like the previous releases? I need to install ubuntu as of now but thinking of holding back until 1004 is released!
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> You can make unetbootin persistant with a little  tweaking. :)
[02:56] <OWNSyouAll> im with zykotick9 on this
[02:56] <blocky_> when I enable TwinView through the nvidia panel with a 2nd monitor connected to the vga port, my system bar is stretched acros both desktops, and when I play VLC or totem fullscreen the image is split across the screens
[02:56] <OWNSyouAll> get the beta then
[02:56] <ZykoticK9> ykphuah1, 30 days 'till Lucid
[02:56] <nathanhelp> chelz: would be sudo get package wouldn't it?
[02:56] <chelz> Wren88: you probably want to look into "snapshotting"
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> ykphuah1:  you can alwyas upgrade.. or you could test out the betas
[02:56] <Wren88> does ubuntu has something like shadow copy?
[02:57] <Myrtti> ykphuah1: 29th is the current predicted date of the release
[02:57] <andrew____> IDIOT..
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> blocky_:  after enabling twinview. you need to restart the X server
[02:57] <andrew____> I just wiped grub -_-#
[02:57] <Aquina> Wren88 you can back it up but since content changes permanently that does't mak sense at all. It's like performing a backup when runing partimage or thelike.
[02:57] <chelz> nathanhelp: it's not in the repositories, unetbooting might work though. hold on.
[02:57] <Berzerker> how do you make a slideshow of backgrounds?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> blocky_:  just applying it.. will confuise things a little bit.
[02:57] <chelz> andrew____: please provide more information
[02:57] <Wren88> i see
[02:57] <andrew____> chelz: I wiped the partition with grub on it :p
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> blocky_:  so use 'sudo service gdm restart' to totally restart X.
[02:57] <mrc_> unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of et-linux-2.60.x86.run.zip or et-linux-2.60.x86.run.zip.zip, and cannot find et-linux-2.60.x86.run.zip.  Why won't this file unzip? Its over 200MB :/
[02:57] <freazor> hello..is there anyone who can help me with my ubuntu?? im a newbie .. i installed ubuntu to my laptop and after I it started the first time .. i tryed to start firefox but it crashed .. then i pressed the off-button of my laptop 8seconds and i restarted ubuntu.. but now it doesnt event start anymore it says maybe my laptop battery is too old or damaged but it isnt..and then ubuntu crashed :( i dont know what to do :(
[02:57] <andrew____> chelz: But it's cool.. I can fix it
[02:57] <Wren88> my asus rig hates ubuntu...
[02:57] <ykphuah1> Myrtti: oh ok, thanks, I don't see the 29th on the /Releases, but I know usually it comes at the end of the month, if that's the case I will go ahead and install 910 first.... then upgrade/reinstall later.
[02:57] <chelz> nathanhelp:
[02:58] <chelz> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[02:58] <chelz> nathanhelp: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[02:58] <OWNSyouAll> is ur laptop pluged in?
[02:58] <blakkheim> Wren88: my asus motherboard loves linux
[02:58] <blocky_> Dr_Willis: that just reverts to disabled VGA because I haven't modified my Xorg.conf, do you think its safe to let the nvidia panel do that?
 In case you prefer stability and long term support over features I recommend you to install 10.04. In the meanwhile you can give 9.10 a try and play around with it. ;-)
[02:58] <freazor> yes it is
[02:58] <ZykoticK9> mrc_, i doubt Enemy Territory is a ZIP try just running the .run file
[02:58] <OWNSyouAll> try restarting in recovery mode
[02:58] <chelz> nathanhelp: try the unetbootin generic binary, not the ubuntu packages
[02:58] <Wren88> so i was forced to virtualize it and run windows 7 on the hosts made me mad cause I put in some good investments
[02:59] <chelz> nathanhelp: please keep messages in this room
[02:59] <ykphuah1> Aquina: hehe, actually I have been using ubuntu since 804, but I just got a new laptop that I will switch to at work, so I need to install it there and "migrate" all my things there.
[02:59] <nullkuhl> hello, i try to boot with karmic cd on HP envy 15 laptop, i get : Fail in evaluating the _REG object of EC device, Broken BIOS is Suspected.. , i went to hp website to check for bios updates, found nothing there. plz advice ! i cant install/run ubuntu :S
[02:59] <Wren88> wanna know what was the main problem?
[02:59] <freazor> what do i have to do in the recovery mode? I tryed already but i didnt know what to do :(
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> blocky_:  i use ntivia-settings and set/save the xorg.conf then restart the X server.
[02:59] <Neezer> so I'm only getting about 9.5 MB/s from gigabit. I have a gigabit card in my server, a gigabit router, and gigabit on my laptop....what gives?
[02:59] <OWNSyouAll> freazor try updating the laptop
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> blocky_:  to get twinview working properly it MUST be set when the X server starts up
[03:00] <nathanhelp> ok sure. chelz: I was wondering if I'd be kicked for flooding.
[03:00] <blakkheim> Neezer: any of them have a very old/low power cpu?
[03:00] <OWNSyouAll> do u know how to do that via command line?
[03:00] <blakkheim> Neezer: also, encryption?
[03:00] <nathanhelp> (01:58:48 AM) nathanhelp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From%20Linux
[03:00] <nathanhelp> (01:59:23 AM) nathanhelp: Is the Alt method what I'm looking for?
[03:00] <freazor> OWNSyouAll: no sorry
[03:00] <chelz> nathanhelp: use pastebin when you're worried about flooding
[03:00] <chelz> nathanhelp: try this https://launchpad.net/~gezakovacs/+archive/ppa/+build/1509263/+files/unetbootin_408-0gezakovacs~hardy1_i386.deb
[03:00] <nullkuhl> hello..
[03:00] <Wren88> I would load either  server or desktop edtition x64 the keyboard would freeze up at gdm and would sometimes get very slow internet connections
[03:00] <nullkuhl>  i try to boot with karmic cd on HP envy 15 laptop, i get : Fail in evaluating the _REG object of EC device, Broken BIOS is Suspected.. , i went to hp website to check for bios updates, found nothing there. plz advice ! i cant install/run ubuntu :S
 I'm running 8.04 on clients and servers and will upgrade on test machines to 10.04 first. ;-)
[03:00] <freazor> OWNSyouAll: what you mean with updating my laptop?
[03:01] <kimocoder> --- TRY TO STATE YOUR QUESTION WITH ONE-STATE-OF-LINE PLEASE
[03:01] <Neezer> blakkheim, it is ssh connection, and the server is 1.7 GHz P4
[03:01] <Wren88> anyone can help that dilemma?
[03:01] <freazor> you mean i should update the firmware of my laptop?
[03:01] <OWNSyouAll> freazor its "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[03:01] <nathanhelp> !unetbootin
[03:01] <Wren88> so i gave up...
[03:02] <ykphuah1> Aquina: :) I don't feel like waiting 1 month before I can start to use my new laptop, haha
[03:02] <chelz> Berzerker: http://my.opera.com/ubuntunerd1/blog/nge-ubuntu
[03:02] <kimocoder> freazor: "apt-get update | apt-get upgrade | apt-get dist-upgrade | apt-get clean | apt-get autoclean"
[03:02] <OWNSyouAll> use the 10.04 beta is been very stable for me atleast
[03:03] <chelz> kimocoder: piping? why?
[03:03] <nathanhelp> hmm
[03:03] <chelz> kimocoder: do you mean ;? or &&?
[03:03] <chelz> nathanhelp: did that deb work?
[03:03] <Berzerker> chelz: thanks
[03:03] <Berzerker> also, how do I auto-mount drives on boot
[03:03] <chelz> Berzerker: you put them in /etc/fstab
[03:03] <ykphuah1> Is it easier to upgrade from 910 -> 1004 or 1004 beta to 1004?
[03:03] <ardchoille> !fstab
[03:04] <kimocoder> chelz: of course, use && instead
[03:04] <nathanhelp> chelz: What will it do?
[03:04] <chelz> ykphuah1: by far 9.10 to 10.04
[03:04] <chelz> nathanhelp: install unetbootin
[03:04] <chelz> nathanhelp: i got it from the ppa link on unetbootin's homepage, that i also linked you to
[03:05] <nathanhelp> chelz: "Error : Dependancy is not satisfiable : libqt4-network
[03:05] <kimocoder> - there is one thing about unetbootin ... many of the distros ain't updated. the Parted Magic and Linux Mint (Mint 6 still, when 8 is newest release)
[03:05] <ZykoticK9> ykphuah1, personally I'd disagree with chelz - easier to 10.04beta -> 10.04 it's just a regular update then
[03:05] <JaredH> could someone tell me how reliable rsync is with backups?
[03:05] <tooydokke1enz> hi 1303 users :)
[03:05] <codnik> anyone here familiar with mpd? on #mpd everyone's just lurking
[03:06] <pepper_haze> how do you get someone else's ip in irc?
[03:06] <kimocoder> ARE THERE ANY LAUNCHPAD DEVELOPERS IN THE UNETBOOTIN PROJECT HERE BESIDES ME ??? PM ME THANX!
[03:06] <matmatmat> hello
[03:06] <Gaming4JC> Anyone know if a Nintendo Wi-Fi USB Connector would work on Ubuntu?
[03:06] <switch10_> JeredH: I use rsync, it's reliable.
[03:06] <luis_> Hello I got a CD with a setup.bin I need to install in Linux, how I can do it?
[03:06] <dmstrdj> download the ISo yourself
[03:06] <ykphuah1> ZykoticK9: chelz: thanks
[03:06] <nathanhelp> Is it possible to burn an ISO to USB?
[03:06] <OWNSyouAll> yh
[03:06] <OWNSyouAll> yeah
[03:06] <JaredH> switch10_: how easy is it to recover your system from the backup..i mean in case of total collapse
[03:07] <pepper_haze> how do you get someone else's ip?
[03:07] <kimocoder> nathanhelp: YES, but use http://www.imgburn.com for Windows. It's simple. ISO9660 BOOTABLE REMEMBER
[03:07] <matmatmat> i upgraded to lucid, now ubuntu boots into console. id have to start x by typing startx, how did this happen, and how can i fux this?
[03:07] <matmatmat> fix
[03:07] <NetEcho> Is there some sort of RDP setup for Ubuntu that can be connected to using the RDP client in Win 7
[03:07] <nathanhelp> kimcoder:  I'm on linux :)
[03:07] <chelz> ZykoticK9: regular/normal users should not be installing beta stuff.
[03:07] <ZykoticK9> matmatmat, re-ask in Lucid channel #ubuntu+1
[03:07] <Wren88> so if anybody has found a solution to keyboard & mouse freeze in ubuntu would greatly appreciate it..
[03:07] <chelz> ZykoticK9: there are recommended upgrade paths for a reason
[03:07] <codnik> luis_: are you on a graphical interface? you should be able to double click on it to install
[03:07] <kimocoder> matmatmat: this fix will not be fixed today i think, but YES it's a problem, we know.
[03:07] <ZykoticK9> chelz, i'd agree regular users shouldn't use beta... true
[03:08] <chelz> nathanhelp: i was afraid of that
[03:08] <tooydokke1enz> now you can al please answer - Hi tooydokke1enz :) (he he) !!!!BIN, upen consoll, type: sudo sh filname.bin when u have typed cd foldername/foldername? right ...
[03:08] <mrc_> ZykoticK9: You were right, thanks
[03:08] <nathanhelp> chelz: simply too old?
[03:08] <matmatmat> kimocoder: is there a workaround or so?
[03:08] <chelz> nathanhelp: well can you burn a 9.10 disc?
[03:08] <chelz> nathanhelp: yeah
[03:08] <nathanhelp> sigh
[03:08] <pepper_haze> can someone please answer my question?
[03:08] <matmatmat> this doesnt sound like a difficult problem
[03:08] <ZykoticK9> mrc_, ah yes ET
[03:08] <kimocoder> but ey people... i'll jump into the unetbootin trunks and relase a new revision tomorrow with lots of updated releases. good night
[03:08] <pepper_haze> what is the irc command to get a user's ip?
[03:08] <ZykoticK9> mrc_, glad to help
[03:08] <venu> hiiii
[03:08] <ShazbotMcMurder> pepper_haze, no one is going to tell you how to retrieve someone's IP
[03:08] <switch10_> JaredH:  simple as rsync -vlr --perms --stats /back/up/ /destination
[03:08] <kimocoder> pepper_haze: /dns <nick>
[03:08] <Wren88> ubuntu does make a great file server among man things...
[03:08] <OWNSyouAll> whois?
[03:08] <ShazbotMcMurder> that is BLACK HAT ACTIVITY
[03:09] <tooydokke1enz> is it legal to record radio shows and listen to them on mp3player?
[03:09] <kimocoder> pepper_haze: /uwho <nick>
[03:09] <kimocoder> pepper_haze: /whois <nick>
[03:09] <aetaric> pepper_haze: i'd ask #freenode that next time.
[03:09] <switch10_> JaredH: of course there are many other options you will want to look at.  --delete is a good one.  check out the man pages
[03:09] <kimocoder> aetaric: i'm so AGREED
[03:09] <pepper_haze> thank you kimocoder
[03:09] <NetEcho> ShazbotMcMurder that is hardly "black hat" activity
[03:10] <prayii> question: any place that sells nice ubuntu laptops? or nice laptops that work awesome with ubuntu?
[03:10] <ShazbotMcMurder> NetEcho...well it can lead to black hat activities
[03:10] <chelz> nathanhelp: you could install gutsy, upgrade to hardy, install unetbootin, make the 9.10 usb, then do a new install from it
[03:10] <NetEcho> ShazbotMcMurder so can owning a computer
[03:10] <ShazbotMcMurder> and I'm sure if the person didn't GIVE them their IP, they don't need it
[03:10] <Berzerker> chelz: how do I find the info for fstab
[03:10] <OWNSyouAll> any laptop works awesome with ubuntu as long as its not an old ati
[03:10] <switch10_> JaredH: if you have rsync running as a cronjob, make sure its running in quiet mode
[03:10] <peterkirn> I'm trying to set up the NFS Kernel Daemon in Karmic. I'm unsure how to specify /data/target in /etc/exports. Currently getting a "exportfs: /data/target does not exist" warning." Trying to point it at an embedded board (hawkboard) on the same network.
[03:10] <matmatmat> also my system is sort partly german and partly english
[03:10] <prayii> OWNSyouAll: I've heard even new ATI don't work well with Lucid
[03:10] <Berzerker> also what's the best music player on ubuntu?
[03:11] <kimocoder> My daily work is black hatting... since penetration testing is the nicer word for it. *signed off*
[03:11] <prayii> lol
[03:11] <ShazbotMcMurder> !best
[03:11] <ShazbotMcMurder> Berzerker,
[03:11] <Berzerker> ok fine, what do most people use
[03:11] <GogaNS> hi guys
[03:11] <Berzerker> oh I can't take polls
[03:11] <GogaNS> can any1 help me
[03:11] <GogaNS> ?
[03:11] <chelz> Berzerker: you were linked to some wikipages on it
[03:11] <Berzerker> alright them
[03:11] <Berzerker> then*
[03:11] <NetEcho> Berzerker what do you like under Windows?
[03:11] <kimocoder> i dont say the whole BT word in here.
[03:11] <Berzerker> NetEcho: does foobar exist?
[03:11] <kimocoder> haha
[03:12] <Berzerker> NetEcho: or winamp
[03:12] <kimocoder> yes! foo=bar is my best friend
[03:12] <NetEcho> Berzerker there are some apps like it, xmms is similar to Winamp
[03:12] <nullkuhl> Hello
[03:12] <nullkuhl> i try to boot with karmic cd on HP envy 15 laptop, i get : Fail in evaluating the _REG object of EC device, Broken BIOS is Suspected.. , i went to hp website to check for bios updates, found nothing there. plz advice ! i cant install/run ubuntu :S
[03:12] <switch10_> Berzerker the default is rhythmbox, id imagine that is what most people use.  people like banshee as well.  I use mpg321
[03:12] <NetEcho> not sure about foobar
[03:12] <chelz> Berzerker: that is the top player similarly requested on linux. you could try foobar in wine. but most end up going with either rhythmbox or amarok
[03:12] <NetEcho> you could use vlc
[03:12] <JaredH> switch10_: I have been reading about all of the options in rsync and also other utilities for backing up/restoring data. What would you recommend for a linux newb?
[03:12] <chelz> Berzerker: you might like songbird actually
[03:12] <Berzerker> chelz: didn't see those, thanks
[03:12] <NetEcho> rhythmbox is really nice
[03:12] <Berzerker> does rhythmbox scrobble?
[03:13] <NetEcho> not sure
[03:13] <chelz> Berzerker: yes
[03:13] <kimocoder> nullkuhl: looks like you'd better check your bios. maybe flash it?
[03:13] <JaredH> switch10_: I can operate in Microsoft with some proficiency, but in Linux... I feel like a child again :)
[03:13] <ubutom2> nullkuhl, have you tried options like acpi=off and so on?
[03:13] <NetEcho> XMMS looks a lot like Winamp but its fairly old
[03:13] <nullkuhl> ubutom2: yes
[03:13] <nullkuhl> acpi=off and noapic  tried both, didnt work out
[03:13] <ubutom2> hm...
[03:13] <chelz> nathanhelp: what are you going to do?
[03:13] <seyfarth> Hey guys, I have two monitors, and I'm running two X sessions. My GNOME panels are on the wrong monitor! how do I go about moving them over?
[03:14] <nullkuhl> ubutom2: what then :S
[03:14] <NetEcho> seyfarth, switch the monitor cables?
[03:14] <switch10_> JaredH: are you running a command line system?  Or do you have gnome or other desktop environments
[03:14] <Berzerker> rhythmbox is really nice, thanks
[03:14] <switch10_> ?
[03:14] <OWNSyouAll> seyfarth make the panel u want the gnome panels on 1 and the other 2
[03:14] <chelz> seyfarth: the other monitor needs to be set as your primary. does your videocard not support xinerama?
[03:14] <fxhp> seyfarth: I use the nvidia restrictive drivers to configure monitors
[03:14] <JaredH> switch10_: I am running gnome, but would like to learn more about the command line if it doesn't overload my brain too much
[03:14] <ubutom2> nullkuhl, don't know... looks like a bug,not a feature :/
[03:14] <chelz> seyfarth: actually nvm, NetEcho is a genius
[03:15] <seyfarth> Yeah I'll just switch the cables
[03:15] <seyfarth> Thanks gentlemen
[03:15] <NetEcho> chelz I ran into that problem a lot when I worked for the school board lol, I'd get called to a school walk in the room, spend 5 specs switching the cables and the teacher would be like... Oi I'm an idiot
[03:15] <OWNSyouAll> lol
[03:15] <candyman3435> lol
[03:16] <chelz> NetEcho: it's a deceptively simple solution
[03:16] <NetEcho> either that or if the monitors were the same size I'd just move the monitors lol
[03:16] <Wilabob> OK, I really need help.... I followed this guide to make a backup of my system http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 Then I reinstalled in order to get rid of my windows partition. I am now trying to restore and I run the command tar xvpfz backup.tgz -C / and it goes for awhile and says tar: Skipping to next header then tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[03:16] <switch10_> JaredH: I use this in a cron job to backup..  rsync -vrl --perms --delete --exclude '*~' --exclude 'Music' --exclude 'server' --exclude 'Downloads' --exclude 'Ubuntu One' --exclude 'Videos' --exclude '.VirtualBox' /home/dave/ /media/server/backup/desktop/dave
[03:17] <chelz> Wilabob: are you restoring your backup from a live environment?
[03:17] <JaredH> switch10_: what about your root?
[03:17] <Wilabob> chelz: Yes
[03:17] <switch10_> JaredH: it is pretty straight forward, and you could always test it.  there is a dry run option
[03:17] <switch10_> JaredH: I have no reason to backup /
[03:17] <jeeez> my ntfs partitions get mounted though its not in fstab, where else am i supposed to look?
[03:18] <ubutom2> nullkuhl, you don't seem to be alone with that issue, http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Operating-systems-and-software/BIOS-broken-on-HP-Envy-15-and-DV6T-Quad/td-p/150680
[03:18] <aetaric> jeeez: /media/
[03:18] <chelz> Wilabob: instead of "-C /" you probably want the mounted root of your hdd, something like "-C /media/Ubuntudisk/"
[03:18] <OWNSyouAll> is it in /etc/mtab?
[03:18] <mypcwontstart> I purged a bunch of files and now I'm getting a "mount of root filesystem failed" error. Can anyone please help please?
[03:18] <JaredH> switch10_: I wanted to backup everything necessary in root to restore the system to a functional place ... because I know I am going to crash it quite a bit while I'm still learning
[03:19] <Wilabob> chelz: Sorry... I'm not running off the cd I installed a new ubuntu and I'm running off the harddrive
[03:19] <jeeez> aetaric, OWNSyouAll: that tells me what's mounted. i want to know how it KNOWS what to mount.
[03:19] <OWNSyouAll> not sure im getting what your asking then
[03:19] <ubutom2> mypcwontstart, you purged? you mean you deletedfiles randomly?
[03:19] <hooge1kanobi> I lost "sharing options" is not in the Gnome drop down after removing and re-installing Samba in Synaptic Package Manager.  Need help in getting that option back in Gnome.
[03:19] <nathanhelp> chelz: Well I thought I could write a CD...but... I am using the CD drive! so I was going to DL a iso burner for linux and try that on my USB stick
[03:19] <mypcwontstart> ubuntulog, not quite randomly
[03:20] <aetaric`noc> oh god.
[03:20] <JaredH> switch10_: I have read about 15 different how to's and they are all different so I was hoping you guys could break it down for me a little
[03:20] <git__> is there a program to poll the amount of electricity a laptop use over a period of time?
[03:20] <jeeez> the problem is, it gets automatically mounted in gnome, but it doesn't get mounted when i use xmonad or xfce. i have to click on the drive to load it
[03:20] <OWNSyouAll> git trying searching for it in synpatic
[03:20] <mypcwontstart> ubuntulog, how do I fix my computer from the maintainance shell?
[03:20] <chelz> Wilabob: you need to do the restore from a liveCD. and is the version of ubuntu you backed up the same as the one you installed?
[03:20] <ubutom2> mypcwontstart, what for example?
[03:20] <git__> OWNSyouAll, what keyword should i search for?
[03:20] <aetaric`noc> ubutom2: what did you delete?
[03:20] <mypcwontstart> ubuntulog, can we take this to pm?
[03:21] <Wilabob> chelz: Yes
[03:21] <aetaric`noc> gah.
[03:21] <switch10_> JaredH: Most people just backup /home because it has all of your settings, etc.  I find it unnecessary to back up the entire /.  maybe stuff you have possibly edited like /etc/fstab or /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:21] <mypcwontstart> i mean ubutom2
[03:21] <aetaric`noc> mypcwontstart: it is better to leave it in the channel as other users can help with the problem
[03:21] <ubutom2> mypcwontstart, it's a dangerous thing to do, some people do that on windows, sometimesleaves the system unbootable too
[03:21] <chelz> Wilabob: good. in the future, just so you know, you can remove windows without reinstalling. you can just use Partition Editor to delete the windows partition and get grub to update its list
[03:21] <ZykoticK9> git__, powertop - Linux tool to find out what is using power on a laptop
[03:22] <JaredH> switch10_: OK. Thanks. Do you know of a good HowTo to help me set it all up?
[03:22] <mypcwontstart> ubutom2, can you help?
[03:22] <aetaric`noc> mypcwontstart: what did you delete?
[03:22] <Wilabob> chelz: So I should boot the live cd?
[03:22] <ubutom2> mypcwontstart, don'T know, what did you do?:)
[03:22] <mypcwontstart> aetaric`noc, this is too fast
[03:22] <git__> ZykoticK9, does it keep stats?  Like I want to know how much electricity my laptop use within the day
[03:22] <mypcwontstart> I used bleachbit
[03:23] <switch10_> JaredH: you could also run something like, sudo dpkg --get-selections > /home/user/backup/installed_packages
[03:23] <ZykoticK9> git__, not sure - never used it myself
[03:23] <switch10_> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /home/user/backup/
[03:23] <switch10_> To backup all of your programs
[03:23] <mypcwontstart> and it crashed while I was using it
[03:23] <mypcwontstart> can the 3 of us go to another channel?
[03:23] <Wilabob> chelz: By the way, I knew that but I wanted to expand my ubuntu partition as well so I had more space
[03:23] <chelz> nathanhelp: i think you can just use an older version of unetbootin as your 'iso burner'
[03:24] <seyfarth> Alright next problem: I can't turn on composite effects since switching to multiple x sessions with xinerama?
[03:24] <JohnnyDread> anyone know any good UML software for ubuntu?
[03:24] <chelz> Wilabob: yes. then do the restore with the -C pointing at a *mounted* copy of your hdd
[03:24] <seyfarth> JohnnyDread: I use umbrello
[03:24] <switch10_> JaredH: if all this is freaking you out, I suggest you use back-in-time to start out with.  It is very easy, and uses rsync.  But its a GUI.
[03:24] <JohnnyDread> ta seyfarth
[03:24] <ubutom2> hhm,maybe it messed something up when it crashed,do you have a backup of you /homr?
[03:24] <JaredH> switch10_: Could I pm you about something else?
[03:24] <chelz> nathanhelp: try this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lubi/files/UNetbootin%20Ubuntu%207.10/99/unetbootin_ubuntu710rev99_all.deb/download
[03:25] <switch10_> JaredH: sure
[03:25] <ubutom2> I meant /home
[03:25] <Wilabob> chelz: OK, Thanks
[03:25] <chelz> nathanhelp: and try that with your 9.10 iso
[03:25] <mypcwontstart> no backups
[03:25] <b2bwild> Hello, I'm currently reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto . I want to fix my audio input. I found my codec, which is Sigmatel 9227 but I don't know what is the model i should refer to. (9.10 Karmic Koala 32-bit)
[03:25] <Orestes> Who knows something about starting a VPN with SocialVPN?http://socialvpn.wordpress.com/
[03:25] <ubutom2> mypcwontstart, if I were you I'd use the livecd,rescue your user files and install clean
[03:26] <codnik> JohnnyDread: try http://bouml.free.fr/download.html
[03:26] <mypcwontstart> ubutom2, but it's encrypted
[03:26] <chelz> Orestes: you could try contacting the SocialVPN people
[03:26] <TheGuyUpstairs> TheGuyUpstairs
[03:26] <ubutom2> mypcwontstart, hm,ok,don'T have experience with encrypted filesystems
[03:26] <ubutom2> mypcwontstart, can that be mounted with a live-cd too?
[03:27] <aetaric`noc> mypcwontstart: the filesystem is encrypted? or your user directory is encrypted?
[03:27] <chelz> mypcwontstart: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/rescue-an-encrypted-luks-lvm-volume.html
[03:27] <mypcwontstart> aetaric`noc, both the filesystem and /home are encrypted
[03:27] <aetaric`noc> ouch
[03:27] <Orestes> chelz: Do they have an own channel on IRC?
[03:27] <chelz> mypcwontstart: are they separately encrypted or all encrypted under /?
[03:28] <Orestes> I hope to find people who use SocialVPN. Noone?
[03:28] <mypcwontstart> chelz I have complete system encryption, and within that is my /home, which is also encrypted
[03:29] <chelz> mypcwontstart: alright, that guide i linked should work. after you mount your luks lvm you can chroot in to fix stuff if you need to. i'd try fixing your system before you backup and reinstall.
[03:29] <Wilabob> chelz: How do I find the location of my Hard Drive when on the live cd
[03:29] <OWNSyouAll> cd /dev/
[03:29] <OWNSyouAll> ls -l
[03:30] <nullkuhl> i try to boot with karmic cd on HP envy 15 laptop, i get : Fail in evaluating the _REG object of EC device, Broken BIOS is Suspected.. , i went to hp website to check for bios updates, found nothing there. plz advice ! i cant install/run ubuntu :S
[03:30] <chelz> Wilabob: you click on Places at the top and click on on the name of your drive. then in a terminal you list /media with "ls /media" and the name of your disk should be in there
[03:30] <nullkuhl> can any one help ?
[03:30] <chelz> Wilabob: then you use "-C /media/ubuntudiskname"
[03:30] <andrew____> GRR, I screwed up grub, and I have no USB drive to install Ubuntu with
[03:30] <andrew____> This is on my netbook..
[03:31] <aetaric`noc> nullkuhl: it might be that your bios options are preventing Ubuntu from operating properly
[03:31] <andrew____> Soo basically, fuck!
[03:31] <kimocoder> no usb drives on your netbook ?
[03:31] <nullkuhl> aetaric`noc: its a laptop, there are almost no bios options
[03:31] <andrew____> None. I only have my mp3 player, which apparently doesn't work in this case
[03:31] <kimocoder> andrew____: it may work, ooooh yes!
[03:31] <kimocoder> http://www.unetbootin.sourceforge.net
[03:31] <chelz> nullkuhl: read some forum threads: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+HP+envy+15
[03:32] <aetaric`noc> nullkuhl: yeah there are. if it was a mac, you would have no options. HP's have plenty
[03:32] <kimocoder> if you dont find it under USB devices, you will find it under hardisk¨
[03:32] <andrew____> kimocoder: Tried it. Failed.
[03:32] <Wilabob> chelz: Dammit, same error
[03:32] <chelz> Wilabob: are you using "sudo tar" ?
[03:32] <andrew____> kimocoder: I used usb-imagewriter to do it, and it doesn't find it :/
[03:33] <Wilabob> chelz: Yes I'm root
[03:33] <matmatmat> my system language is messed up, can i somehow set the main language or so? its like 50% english and 50% german now ..
[03:33] <matmatmat> can i fix that?
[03:33] <andrew____> kimocoder: Oh wait.. So with that, I don't need a USB drive?
[03:33] <ubutom2> nullkuhl, the one to blame is probably hp, for not keeping to bios standards.
[03:33] <meathook> matmatmat: Karmic?>
[03:34] <Wilabob> chelz: Tried again... Sam thing.
[03:34] <yourabi> I'm on lucid server beta and getting this error when installing binutils: binutils: Depends: binutils (>= 2.20.1-4) but 2.20.1-3ubuntu2 is to be installed.
[03:34] <yourabi> has anyone seen that?
[03:34] <meathook> !lucid | yourabi
[03:34] <nullkuhl> :'( this is terrible
[03:34] <matmatmat> meathook: well yeah, lucid now. but it was the same with karmic
[03:35] <Berzerker> how can I run evolution in the background?
[03:35] <meathook> Berzerker: You mean closing it without exiting it?
[03:35] <kimocoder> andrew____: it may be mounted as an hardrive
[03:35] <Berzerker> meathook: yeah
[03:36] <chelz> Wilabob: please copy and paste into a pastebin what you have in your terminal with the tar commands and the output
[03:36] <Berzerker> meathook: the notification system with it makes it ideal to run it without having it open
[03:36] <Berzerker> meathook: but I haven't found a way to do that yet
[03:36] <chelz> Berzerker: alltray probably does what you want, but evolution might have the feature to do this on its own
[03:36] <andrew____> kimocoder: Oh right... Thanks, I'll give it a go :)
[03:37] <Wilabob> chelz: Can't I have no internet. I had to use the windows drivers to get the wireless card working. That's why I need to restore
[03:37] <Berzerker> chelz: I can't find it in evolution
[03:37] <chelz> Wilabob: no ethernet?
[03:37] <ShazbotMcMurder> What's the command to show me what sound card I have?
[03:37] <Eric> anyone familiar with wubi?
[03:38] <Wilabob> chelz: Not where the computer is
[03:38] <kimocoder> Wilabob: you mean u used ndiswrapper?
[03:38] <kimocoder> ndiswrapper driver?
[03:38] <chelz> Berzerker: kdocker or alltray: http://www.ridinglinux.org/2007/04/09/minimize-evolution-mail-client-into-system-tray-with-kdocker/
[03:38] <Wilabob> kimocoder: Yeah
[03:38] <Berzerker> chelz: seems kind of dumb that this system doesn't have something like that implimented already
[03:38] <meathook> Bererker: http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201362
[03:38] <numus> I have been searching for a to mount the native NTFS drive in ubuntu while utillizing wubi
[03:38] <chelz> Wilabob: do you get any message saying something like "this doesn't look like a tar archive"?
[03:38] <kimocoder> Wilabob: write this in terminal: "lspci | grep wlan"
[03:38] <kimocoder> Wilabob: write this in terminal: "lspci | grep wlan"
[03:38] <meathook> !alltray | Bezerker
[03:38] <meathook> doh
[03:39] <seyfarth> anyone have any luck getting compiz to work with dual monitors, an ATI card, and xinerama?
[03:39] <Wilabob> chelz: No
[03:39] <chelz> Berzerker: sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it does. if you want the feature you could always pay someone to code it :P
[03:39] <Berzerker> meathook: yeah I know alltray, it just seems kind of dumb
[03:39] <ddrj> been running ubuntu for a month now, it was ok but recently the login screen takes forever to load after bootup
[03:39] <numus> or is there a way to mount the image file in windows 7 so i can get files out of the ext3 virtual disk?
[03:39] <ddrj> any ideas ?
[03:39] <kimocoder> Wilabob: and give us the output without flooding the channel.
[03:40] <meathook> Berzerker: Why not use Thunderbird 3?
[03:40] <meathook> ;)
[03:40] <meathook> 2, rather
[03:41] <Berzerker> meathook: it's integrated into the handy notification thing
[03:41] <numus> no one has experimented with wubi?
[03:41] <Wilabob> chelz: The error is tar: Skipping to next header then tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[03:41] <chelz> Wilabob: eh well in that guide you're following it mentions that "exit delayed from previous errors" issue and says to ignore it
[03:41] <chelz> Wilabob: you could add the -v flag to tar and pipe it to a file for examination
[03:42] <jarrod_> no sound. no remote. broken lirc?  http://i.imgur.com/617aB.png screen cap
[03:42] <ddrj> did u try irw on terminal?
[03:42] <chelz> Wilabob: otherwise if you don't notice any files you wanted are gone, then it might be okay to just figure the backup restore worked
[03:42] <Wilabob> chelz: Well it quits way too early.
[03:43] <meathook> Berzerker: there's apparently this thing https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/11530 FYI
[03:43] <ddrj> any clue as to why ubuntu has recently been taking close to 5-10 minutes to load login screen ?
[03:43] <Faithful> Do you know if you can portait the touch screen on a tablet?
[03:43] <numus> no one has experimented with wubi?
[03:43] <Wilabob> chelz: So the command is sudo tar -v xvpfz Backup.tgz -C /media/.......
[03:43] <al-tabq> i added some fonts to /usr/share/fonts and ran fc-cache -f -v afterwards. protocol says that the new fonts are updated, but open office won't display them. any ideas anyone?
[03:44] <jimbeam12> hey all
[03:44] <jimbeam12> can someone help here
[03:44] <chelz> Wilabob: are there some files you need more than others? say the stuff in /home?
[03:44] <jimbeam12> ive just download at drivers for ubuntu 64bit...i cant seem to install them
[03:44] <switch10_> jimbeam12: what is your question
[03:45] <jimbeam12> this are the drivers for at
[03:45] <jimbeam12> ati
[03:45] <jimbeam12> ati-driver-installer-10-03-x86.x86_64.run
[03:45] <numus> nevermind found the answer finally
[03:45] <Wilabob> chelz: I backed up all of the root
[03:45] <al-tabq> i added some fonts to /usr/share/fonts and ran fc-cache -f -v afterwards. protocol says that the new fonts are updated, but open office won't display them. i really need some help with that, got a paper due tomorrow and there's just nothing nicer than garamond
[03:45] <numus> apperently it mounts the primary ntfs partition as /host in ubuntu when utilizing wubi
[03:45] <Wilabob> chelz: (/)
[03:45] <chelz> Wilabob: i'm thinking of extracting it in parts though
[03:45] <Wilabob> chelz: Ok
[03:46] <meathook> 1_ignore
[03:46] <Wilabob> chelz: I don't know if I need much/any of the stuff from /home
[03:46] <switch10_> jimbeam12: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingRunPackage
[03:47] <Shadenhand> Tried to upgrade, Overheated, I'm locked out of the system, I just need to get to a terminal any suggestions?
[03:47] <chelz> Wilabob: if you do "tar tf Backup.tgz | head", do the lines start with / ?
[03:47] <chelz> Shadenhand: boot to Recovery Mode and select shell
[03:47] <chelz> Shadenhand: alternately boot to a livecd or liveusb and chroot
[03:48] <Shadenhand> Chelz: thank you, I'll try the chroot.
[03:48] <researcher1> My friend want to join IRC chat but he does not have a n account. Where can he open account?
[03:48] <chelz> !nickserv | researcher1
[03:48] <chelz> er
[03:48] <Wilabob> chelz: just running that command I get No file or directory
[03:48] <chelz> !register | researcher1
[03:48] <jimbeam12> switch10_, its telling i have to run the program as a super user..what is that
[03:49] <chelz> Wilabob: should run that in the directory you have the Backup.tgz
[03:49] <KB1JWQ> jimbeam12: sudo COMMAND
[03:49] <KB1JWQ> !sudo | jimbeam12
[03:49] <mylestonnies> !cli
[03:50] <jimbeam12>  i right click on the package and then it extracts the file and then i get a dialog box.telling me i need to be super user..how do i use sudo and where
[03:50] <Wilabob> chelz: I did cd /media/... and I still get the error
[03:51] <chelz> Wilabob: where is your Backup.tgz?
[03:51] <Wilabob> chelz: On my hard drive in the root directory
[03:52] <Shadenhand> chelz: thank you so much, it worked. I had no idea. <3 ;)
[03:53] <chelz> Wilabob: (all without quotes) cd there, type "tar tf Backu" then hit tab
[03:53] <chelz> Wilabob: btw | is pipe, above the \ on US keyboard layouts.
[03:53] <chelz> Wilabob: after tab type "| head"
[03:54] <tsyj2007> I am coming
[03:54] <al-tabq> well..if anyone got ideas on that, help would be appreciated
[03:55] <tsyj2007> al-tabq: what
[03:55] <al-tabq> tsyj2007, why open-office doesn't use all fonts in my cache
[03:56] <Wilabob> Got it... it says ./ and media/ and media/Filesystem and more, it that what you need?
[03:56] <chelz> al-tabq: might have to reboot
[03:56] <al-tabq> chelz, tried already..
[03:56] <chelz> Wilabob: ah yeah that's good to know.
[03:57] <al-tabq> maybe it's just a bug though, never had that problem before
[03:57] <chelz> al-tabq: you sure the fonts aren't in an archive or anything? and that they're in a format ubuntu supports?
[03:57] <Browsing> if i install a live cd on a usb drive, would i still be able to use that same usb drive as a form of storage?
[03:57] <kimocoder> Wilabob: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[03:57] <tsyj2007> al-tabq: how many fonts have you installed ?
[03:57] <kimocoder> Wilabob: "b43-fwcutter" - download, unpack and make!
[03:58] <al-tabq> chelz, yea fc-cache logged that
[03:58] <al-tabq> tsyj2007, about 20+ to the default ones
[03:58] <chelz> al-tabq: you could try the openoffice people. do the fonts show up in other places?
[03:58] <kimocoder> j
[03:59] <al-tabq> chelz, gedit apparently recognizes them
[03:59] <Wilabob> chelz: Any ideas?
[03:59] <nikitis> Could anyone recommend a good HDTV Tuner card for Ubuntu 64-bit?
[03:59] <chelz> Wilabob: tar xvpfz Backup.tgz --exclude=/media -C /media/ubuntudisk
[04:00] <kimocoder> nikitis: Hauppauge!
[04:00] <chelz> Wilabob: xvpzf rather
[04:00] <al-tabq> chelz, maybe i'll just wait it out, could be that it's just some random temporary bug
[04:00] <peterkirn> Does anyone know where tftp keeps its logs on Karmic?
[04:01] <ZykoticK9> nikitis, if your looking for Over-The-Air HD don't get a Hauppauge 1600 as the remote is broken in Karmic/Lucid
[04:01] <chelz> al-tabq: did you look at the bottom and top of the openoffice font list? might be some strange ordering
[04:01] <kimocoder> ZykoticK9: broken can easy be fixed. but anyway, a HIT on www.google.com is rather rapid-fire
[04:01] <al-tabq> chelz, unfortunately not
[04:02] <chelz> nikitis: the mythbuntu people have a ton of documentation on this stuff
[04:02] <ZykoticK9> kimocoder, was chatting with a Mythbuntu dev about it the other day and they said it was a "difficult to fix" issue
[04:02] <wolter> how do I make a key mine?
[04:02] <wolter> I have the file but it doesn't appear as my key
[04:02] <nikitis> chelz: i'm looking for a good 64-bit linux/ 64-bit Windows 7 card.  I have an Fusion HDTV RT 5 Lite which doesn't in 64-bit Windows
[04:02] <wolter> Imported it to Passwords and encryption keys
[04:03] <Wilabob> chelz: didn't work :'(
[04:03] <chelz> al-tabq: seems openoffice has its own places it searches for fonts and that place might not be one of them: http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/fontguide.html#5
[04:03] <chelz> Wilabob: what was the output?
[04:04] <myron> does anyone know if there is a way to force a device to act as a mouse?
[04:04] <ARCHAN> Hi
[04:04] <chelz> nikitis: http://mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Video_capture_cards
[04:05] <ARCHAN> i installed GnomeART NG, if i try to install a GDM theme... it errors out ??
[04:05] <ARCHAN> how to install it ?
[04:05] <myron> on windows it shows up using hid compliant mouse using mouclass.sys and mouhid.sys
[04:05] <myron> on ubuntu it doesn't register as a mouse at all...
[04:05] <juan_> hello world
[04:05] <Wilabob> chelz: tar: Skipping to next header and tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[04:05] <Aquina> lcu
[04:06] <juan_> i need help with gcc
[04:06] <Aquina> cant install it?
[04:06] <chelz> Wilabob: alright try this:  tar xvpzf Backup.tgz -C /media/ubuntudisk /home
[04:06] <myron> or is there a way to force a device to input1
[04:06] <juan_> no dont know how to use it
[04:06] <juan_> need help with gcc
[04:07] <al-tabq> chelz, that might be it, i copied mine in /usr/share/fonts/ it worked before though, but i'll try some other directory as well
[04:07] <rawkasaur> Hey, my computer only shows 749MB out of it's 2GB of ram.  I have a eeepc 1201n with a nvidia ion graphics card.  I believe that it has allocated ~1.3 GB of ram for the graphics card.  When I was running ubuntu from the live cd I was able to use all of the 2GB. Any ideas on how to get the rest of my ram back?
[04:07] <chelz> al-tabq: did it work before in this same version of ubuntu? and are you using OO.o from ubuntu?
[04:07] <juan_> need help with gcc
[04:08] <myron> juan_: try reading the man pages first "man gcc" then ask a more specific question.....
[04:08] <al-tabq> chelz, yea it worked before on other fonts, what's 00.o though?
[04:08] <chelz> rawkasaur: http://chrisjohnston.org/2009/why-on-linux-am-i-seeing-so-much-ram-usage
[04:08] <chelz> al-tabq: openoffice.org
[04:08] <Wilabob> chelz: same thing
[04:08] <chelz> al-tabq: try talking to the ubuntu people
[04:08] <al-tabq> chelz, ah alright, yea i do
[04:09] <Wilabob> chelz: is it a problem with the backup?
[04:09] <myron> Does anyone know if there is a way to force a device to work on input1
[04:09] <chelz> Wilabob: alright try this: sudo tar xpzf Backup.tgz -C /media/ubuntudisk /etc
[04:09] <chelz> Wilabob: we'll find out
[04:09] <juan_> ok  dont know where the compiled program is and how to run it
[04:09] <kimocoder> and mount the partition in loop
[04:10] <al-tabq> chelz, sheit, i figured it, the new fonts aren't truetype fonts but otf fonts
[04:10] <chelz> al-tabq: aha, that would be it
[04:11] <magicvibes> hi, is anyone able to help me recover my Ubuntu 9.10 from fail to load gnome.DesktopManager?
[04:11] <chelz> magicvibes: what caused that?
[04:11] <al-tabq> chelz, heheh yea, all the hustle for nothing.. i'll just convert them
[04:11] <al-tabq> chelz, thanks a lot mate
[04:11] <magicvibes> chelz, my tinkering with gdm
[04:11] <Wilabob> chelz: with a space between /media/ubuntudick and /ect it said tar: skipping to next header and tar: /ect: Not found in archive and tar: exiting with failure status due to previous error
[04:12] <rawkasaur> chelz: This isn't what I'm talking about.  I have two 1 GB sticks of ram, and free -m shows Mem: Total 749.
[04:12] <rawkasaur> chelz: So I am missing 1251mb of ram.
[04:12] <Maletor> Can my root filesystem, safely be on a logical volume (that contains root and swap) and have that be on top of a raid 5? I will of course have a second raid1 partition with /boot
[04:12] <Maletor> ?
[04:12] <chelz> rawkasaur: does your bios see the memory?
[04:13] <chelz> Wilabob: /etc not /ect
[04:13] <rawkasaur> chelz: Yes. It shows 2 GB. I checked the bios settings to see if there was a was to disable the pre-allocation of ram, but there wasn't that option.
[04:13] <tsyj2007> chelz: yes
[04:13] <Wilabob> chelz: same thing
[04:13] <randomusr> Tried fixing Grub2. The menu with available kernels pops up but the earliest kernel is blinking and won't boot to ubuntu
[04:14] <freazor> hey .. can someone help me please my ubuntu is crashing when i try to start firefox or when i try to make the xchat window bigger.. it crashed very fast.. and at the startup it says maybe the battery of my laptop is old or broken .. my laptop is often very hot but I dont think thats the problem.. I updated and upgraded ubuntu already but it crashed again very often and now it doesnt even starts up .. when its starting it says maybe
[04:15] <larryking> Underwear was almost ridiculous: it gave support for his balls, but his dick was now about 18 inches long, even after a cold shower. It hung inches past his knees, and was obscenely obvious when he tried putting on sweat pants. He finally took a roll of bandage tape and taped the shaft just below the head so that it ended in left armpit. Let people think he was wearing a shoulder holster. Fortunately, the weather was cold enough to jus
[04:15] <larryking> Megan drove him to Python, following the directions Carson had given Johnson over the phone. On arrival, a very buxom receptionist asked them to sign in at the front desk, and then conducted them to a standard medical examination room. An incredibly buxom nurse came in and took Johnson's temperature, weight and height, and blood pressure. Johnson tried to avoid looking at the nurse, for fear he would rip through the tape and suddenly h
[04:15] <larryking> After taking his blood pressure, the nurse told Johnson that she needed to take a throat swab. She picked up a long swab, asked him to "open wide" and attempted to steady him by putting her hand on his left shoulder as she approached the back of his throat with the swab. It was too close for Andrew. He couldn't look away from her. Her hand was mere inches from the head of his cock. He was sweating enough between the nurse, the sweater,
[04:15] <larryking> Megan sat down in a spare chair, while Johnson forced himself to think about tax regulations until his erection subsided. After a few minutes, he succeeded to the point that his python fell out of the bottom of his sweater, just as Dr. Carson knocked and walked into the room. "Well, Andrew! It's been a while, hasn't it? How are you doing?" Johnson related that he was still doing accounting, over at Delta Biotech. Carson hid his surpris
[04:15] <FloodBot1> larryking: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:15] <rawkasaur> I assume someone is going to +b larryking right?
[04:16] <chelz> Wilabob: what is the output of "tar tvfz Backup.tgz" ?
[04:16] <SysTec> ty
[04:17] <SysTec> noted issue
[04:17] <magicvibes> chelz, i tried to install gdm-2.28.tar.gz extracted into a dir and did "./configure make; make install" i thought i was done after it did it's thing for about 5 minutes and completed, i rebooted to a dead end, I get the Ubuntu logo then just a black screen with the mouse pointer with loading animation
[04:17] <freazor> can anyone in here help me ? :(
[04:17] <chelz> magicvibes: are you able to get to a shell by booting to Recovery Mode?
[04:18] <magicvibes> chelz, yes, ive gotten that far
[04:18] <magicvibes> chelz, F6'd my way through
[04:18] <kimocoder> --- STATE QUESTIONS IN ONE-STATE PLEASE. DON'T SPAM, THE QUESTIONS WILL NOT GET ANSWERED DUO THE SPAM/FLOODING.
[04:18] <chelz> magicvibes: do a make uninstall
[04:18] <luqui> Hi.  I would like my friend, outside of my lan, to connect to my computer.  We both have ssh access to a common server with a public IP (on which I don't have root).  Is there a way to do this?
[04:19] <tritium> kimocoder: likewise, please avoid all-caps
[04:19] <magicvibes> chelz, in the /gdm/ dir?
[04:19] <chelz> luqui: connect to your computer in what manner?
[04:19] <luqui> chelz, oh, ssh in.
[04:19] <chelz> magicvibes: the same place you did the make install in
[04:19] <kimocoder> tritium: someone must take som action i say
[04:20] <magicvibes> okay, just "make uninstall" ?
[04:20] <kimocoder> :p
[04:20] <randomusr> Grub is just blinking the earliest installed kernel at me and won't boot
[04:20] <Wilabob> chelz: tar: Skipping to next header tar: exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[04:20] <randomusr> Please help
[04:21] <ramiro> how do I tar cfvj some/long/path, but when I extract the file it outputs to "path" instead of "some/long/path"?
[04:21] <Gnea> randomusr: 'blinking'?
[04:21] <randomusr> the kernel line for the earliest kernel is blinking/flashing
[04:21] <randomusr> it's a midnight flasher
[04:21] <randomusr> heh
[04:22] <Gnea> can you drop to edit mode?
[04:22] <randomusr> Gnea, nope
[04:22] <randomusr> it's Grub version 1.98
[04:22] <myron> does anyone know if there is a way to force a device to act as a mouse?
[04:23] <Gnea> randomusr: what version of ubuntu?
[04:23] <randomusr> 10.04
[04:23] <randomusr> it was working fine before updates applied on saturday
[04:24] <tsyj2007> FloodBot1: Can I become an Adiministor
[04:24] <chelz> Wilabob: alright i'm putting together a command
[04:24] <Gnea> randomusr: you should ask in #ubuntu+1 as we don't support 10.04 in here yet
[04:24] <tsyj2007> I want to help others well?
[04:24] <chelz> Wilabob: make sure you're in the mounted root of your drive, the *same* dir as Backup.tgz
[04:24] <MTecknology> Cany anyone tell me what the line looks like in /etc/fstab for /tmp ?
[04:24] <tsyj2007> FloodBot1: I want to help others well?
[04:24] <randomusr> isn't this really a Grub problem anyway?
[04:24] <Gnea> tsyj2007: why do you need to be an admin?
[04:25] <tsyj2007> Gnea: I want to help others?
[04:25] <Gnea> randomusr: so ask in #grub?
[04:25] <Gnea> tsyj2007: I'm not an admin, but I help others.
[04:25] <tsyj2007> Gnea: yeah
[04:25] <Gnea> randomusr: check the /topic too
[04:25] <tsyj2007> ok
[04:25] <Gnea> tsyj2007: so why do you need to be an admin?
[04:26] <tsyj2007> Gnea: I feel well
[04:26] <myron> I have a mouse that is registering as a prolific technology device, but it is not working. from looking over the output of lsusb and lsinput it seems that all mouse devices register to input1 this device is registering as input3
[04:26] <Gnea> tsyj2007: don't tell me that
[04:26] <randomusr> mya
[04:26] <Berzerker-> how do I access my filesystem from a Live CD?
[04:27] <Gnea> myron: how many mice do you have plugged in?
[04:27] <tsyj2007> Gnea: I am sorry...I
[04:27] <magicvibes> what does the navy blue text,highlighted with green on an object in a dir mean that object is?
[04:27] <chelz> Wilabob: gunzip -c Backup.tgz | cpio -ivduH tar
[04:27] <chelz> Wilabob: type that exactly
[04:27] <Gnea> Berzerker-: click on Places, the drive(s) should show up in the list
[04:27] <Berzerker-> Gnea, it doesn't
[04:27] <tsyj2007> Gnea: I think you know a lot
[04:28] <Gnea> Berzerker-: check dmesg, make sure the drive(s) being detected
[04:28] <myron> gnea: 2 including the one that is not working...
[04:28] <Berzerker-> Gnea, it shows everything except that drive
[04:28] <gottto> !pm | Untitled_only
[04:28] <Berzerker-> Gnea, it's a RAID, does that make a difference?
[04:28] <Gnea> tsyj2007: think again
[04:29] <Gnea> Berzerker-: it might...
[04:29] <z0net> I just updated to 10.04 and I lost my sound =\... any tips?
[04:29] <Myrtti> !lucid | z0net
[04:29] <z0net> =\
[04:30] <chelz> z0net: /join #ubuntu+1
[04:30] <Wilabob> chelz: Its going really fast and saying a lot of permission denied and malformed number
[04:30] <tsyj2007> Gnea: haha,you are humorous ...
[04:30] <Gnea> Berzerker-: what kind of raid? software or hardware?
[04:30] <z0net> [chelz]: ok thnx
[04:30] <chelz> Wilabob: are you using sudo or a bash as root?
[04:30] <chelz> Wilabob: ctrl+c it and do "sudo su"
[04:30] <chelz> then run it again
[04:30] <Berzerker-> Gnea, software
[04:31] <Gnea> Berzerker-: that could be a problem....
[04:31] <Gnea> !raid
[04:31] <tsyj2007> Gnea: I have a problem..
[04:31] <Gnea> tsyj2007: and that is?
[04:31] <Myrtti> chelz: sudo su isn't the best way of gaining a root terminal, sudo -i is a better way...
[04:31] <magicvibes> How do I compress multiple folders into a single file ?
[04:32] <Myrtti> magicvibes: tar?
[04:32] <chelz> Myrtti: ah that's fair
[04:32] <Wilabob> chelz: Thats better
[04:32] <chelz> Wilabob: sudo -i would also work
[04:32] <chelz> Wilabob: seem like it's working?
[04:32] <myron> Gnea: I have 2 mice connected including the one that is not working.
[04:32] <tsyj2007> Gnea: I have installed emcas22 once,then I removed it ..then when I install emacs23,failed..
[04:32] <magicvibes> Myrtti, can you suggest a guide to follow for someone new to without hub bub
[04:33] <tsyj2007> Gnea: I don't know why?
[04:33] <Wilabob> chelz: it got to it's usual spot then started spitting out malformed number
[04:33] <Myrtti> magicvibes: well, tar is basically what zip does but without compression. You can compress it with several compression methods.
[04:33] <chelz> Wilabob: what's the usual spot?
[04:33] <Wilabob> chelz: like usr/share/ then something else
[04:34] <Wilabob> chelz: it's back to regular things now
[04:34] <IdleOne> magicvibes: http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/
[04:34] <Wilabob> chelz: I think it might be working !
[04:34] <chelz> Wilabob: wait for it to finish, then try booting into it and checking if what you wanted restored gets restored
[04:34] <chelz> Wilabob: btw in the future, it's better to use integrated backup tools rather than commands from a forum if one isn't experienced in the interworkings of tools like tar.
[04:34] <chelz> Wilabob: this is a better way to backup: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[04:34] <Wilabob> chelz: I tried that and it didn't seem to work for me
[04:35] <chelz> Wilabob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/SimpleBackupSuite
[04:35] <chelz> ?
[04:35] <Gnea> tsyj2007: hrm, I use vim, not emacs, so I'm not sure...
[04:35] <Wilabob> chelz: that's the program I used first and it didn't seem to even start backing up
[04:36] <Wilabob> chelz: but it's going alot further...
[04:36] <Ultraparadigm> Hi peoples!
[04:36] <Gnea> myron: have you tried removing both, then plugging in only the one that's being problematic?
[04:36] <Wilabob> chelz: WTF? chinese characters?
[04:36] <Chr1z> I have a box that lost power and now it says unexpected filesystem inconsistency and runs fsck during boot which fails.. I prompt me for root pass and takes me to a repair prompt..I'm running fsck -f -c -y but it's been running for 8 hours and has checked 8 million blocks out of 64 million... is there a better way?
[04:36] <tsyj2007> Gnea: you know vim
[04:36] <Ultraparadigm> I have to reinstall my Ubuntu tomorrow because my hard drive died.  I wanted to know if it's still nessesary to creat a SWAP partition?
[04:36] <chelz> Wilabob: heh no idea. it's your system :P
[04:37] <Gnea> tsyj2007: yes, and?
[04:37] <Spaceghost> hi, I have a problem
[04:37] <tsyj2007> Gnea: yeah,vim is a good editor...
[04:37] <Wilabob> if this work's it'll be a miracle.
[04:37] <chelz> Wilabob: here's something you might want to use in the future: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/back-in-time-a-simple-backup-tool-for-ubuntu.html
[04:37] <Spaceghost> I install ubuntu in my pc, when I boot at live cd, it shows me a message for install the nVidia's privative drivers
[04:37] <Spaceghost> but now when I install, no
[04:38] <Spaceghost> and the resolution is very small, and I can't expande this in the menu
[04:38] <Spaceghost> :S
[04:38] <ykphuah1> ah, ubuntu gives me a blank screen after I click on "Install" or "Live" or "CHeck CD" in the grub menu on my new vostro 3400, is the alternate install disk the only way for me now?
[04:38] <ykphuah1> ubuntu 910 desktop amd64
[04:38] <Spaceghost> someone can help me with this?
[04:38] <IdleOne> Chr1z: 56 more hours and it will be done at that rate
[04:38] <myron> Gnea: yeah. it didn't work. I don't know how much this will help, but on windows it registers as an hid compliant mouse and uses mouclass.sys and mouhid.sys.
[04:38] <tsyj2007> Gnea: do you have a good deployed file
[04:39] <Spaceghost> and what command is recomended use in Ubuntu? aptitude or apt-get?
[04:39] <chelz> ykphuah1: try safe graphics https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing%20the%20CD%27s%20Default%20Boot%20Options
[04:39] <Gnea> tsyj2007: are you done?
[04:39] <tsyj2007> Gnea: yes,but not good
[04:39] <chelz> Spaceghost: apt-get
[04:39] <Berzerker-> Gnea, what's the format in fstab to put a space in a mount point
[04:39] <chelz> Spaceghost: apt-get install nvidia-settings
[04:39] <Gnea> myron: it sounds like a mouse to me. is it a standard usb optical mouse?
[04:39] <ykphuah1> chelz: when I press F4, there's only "Normal" and "Use Driver update disc"
[04:40] <chelz> Spaceghost: then go to System -> Administration -> NVIDIA
[04:40] <Gnea> Berzerker-: why do you need to put a space there?
[04:40] <rosechu> I'm writing a script to copy the files from one directory to another on a different drive, every time it runs it changes the file permissions of the copied files to be owned by root; I tried putting chown mycurrusername and chgrp in there, but it all just says root still.
[04:40] <tsyj2007> Gnea: for example,set cindent;set nobackup;set ai;set autoindent,and so on..
[04:40] <Spaceghost> chelz, I only install the system before of this is necessary put: apt-get update or apt-get upgrade, what of these?
[04:41] <Berzerker-> Gnea, I just want a space as the folder name
[04:41] <Berzerker-> Gnea, do I need to put it in quotes or anything?
[04:41] <Gnea> tsyj2007: I do believe #vim exists
[04:41] <Spaceghost> chelz, or both?
[04:41] <Gnea> Berzerker-: don't know. might just need to escape it.
[04:41] <tsyj2007> Gnea: yes,but you can do it a lot..
[04:41] <Gnea> tsyj2007: this is an Ubuntu support chat, not a VIM support chat.
[04:41] <mcurran> Anyone know the command/directory to have gnome terminal start as root by default - Like in KDE it would be sudo su or something and not /bin/bash.
[04:42] <tsyj2007> Gnea: yeah
[04:42] <chelz> Spaceghost: both, first update
[04:42] <Gnea> tsyj2007: so please, stay on topic.
[04:42] <Spaceghost> thanks, chelz I will try
[04:42] <tsyj2007> Gnea: ok ,thanx
[04:42] <chelz> rosechu: what tool in the script is doing the copying?
[04:42] <tsyj2007> Gnea:I  have know that..
[04:43] <Gnea> tsyj2007: now I have a question for you..
[04:43] <rosechu> cp
[04:43] <Gnea> tsyj2007: is english your first language?
[04:43] <tsyj2007> Gnea:I think not..
[04:43] <drum> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RyHDOCOoew
[04:43] <Gnea> tsyj2007: perhaps you might do better in an Ubuntu support chat that supports the language you are better at?
[04:44] <Ultraparadigm> Is it still nessessary to to create a SWAP partition for Linux?
[04:44] <tsyj2007> Gnea:my english is poor?
[04:44] <Out_Cold> so i have a fubar'd server install. I tried to set / inside LVM and now grub can't find it. I'm thinking i need to add a line to grub.cfg but i'm wondering how do i edit this if I can't get past grub loading?
[04:44] <arand> Ultraparadigm: With enough memory, no, if you want hibernation, yes
[04:44] <chelz> rosechu: what flags does cp use?
[04:44] <tsyj2007> Gnea:do you think so..
[04:45] <Gnea> tsyj2007: what language do you normally speak?
[04:45] <rosechu> actually, i just figured it out
[04:45] <Out_Cold> chelz, man cp. -r = recursive, -p = permissions, -v= verbose... and so on
[04:45] <chelz> Out_Cold: yep
[04:45] <tsyj2007> Gnea:is it important?
[04:46] <rosechu> well, someone else told me, heh... the drive I'm copying to is ntfs, doesn't support unix filesystem permissions\
[04:46] <Gnea> tsyj2007: it is if you want to help people and not make them mad
[04:46] <LFC_fan> i'm am trying Personal File Sharing in Ubuntu and installed apache2, now how do others access the files in Public Folder?
[04:46] <chelz> rosechu: actually ntfs does have a permissions system but ntfs-3g ignores it
[04:46] <LFC_fan> *ubuntu 10.04 beta
[04:46] <rosechu> ah
[04:46] <chelz> LFC_fan: /join #ubuntu+1
[04:47] <LFC_fan> hmm
[04:47] <tsyj2007> Gnea:ok,I learn it ...
[04:47] <hellyeah> there is a channel called girl and topic is girl is: [ http://code.google.com/p/girl/ ][ We develop the /usr/bin/girl program, and encourage girls to continue their vital and historic input and involvement in technology ][ KEEP IT CLEAN OR DON'T POST ] :D
[04:47] <Myrtti> !cn | tsyj2007 you could always help here
[04:47] <Myrtti> hellyeah: please don't advertise your projects or IRC channels here
[04:48] <tsyj2007> Gnea:ok,yes,but I want to make friends with people from diffrent countries....
[04:49] <kswan> is there any way to hide the join/quit messages in Empathy?
[04:49] <Gnea> tsyj2007: start by visiting the channels that Myrtti pointed out to you, get to know how Ubuntu works, and it will become easier to communicate with people in other countries
[04:49] <chelz> Out_Cold: getting to a livecd or liveusb environment then chrooting would allow you to change grub
[04:50] <tsyj2007> Gnea:yeah,thanks,I think I was wrong once..
[04:50] <Out_Cold> can't change without being live though i guess... no way to edit from booting?
[04:50] <IdleOne> tsyj2007: if you want to just chat type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:50] <tsyj2007> IdleOne: thanks
[04:51] <m1k3y> hey all
[04:51] <IdleOne> !hi | m1k3y
[04:51] <m1k3y> has anyone installed ubuntu 10.04 beta?
[04:51] <m1k3y> i just did and i really like it
[04:52] <kswan> m1k3y: I am on it now
[04:52] <m1k3y> i find its faster then 9.10
[04:52] <m1k3y> do you find it buggy?
[04:52] <kswan> m1k3y: I had to get rid of the purple but otherwise nice.
[04:52] <chelz> Wilabob: welcome back
[04:52] <arand> !lucid m1k3y kswan
[04:52] <gottto> m1k3y: there's even a channel for it #ubuntu+1
[04:52] <kswan> m1k3y: I had some errors, but there were a lot of updates to install
[04:53] <Wilabob> chelz: do you remember what the command was that you gave me? The comp just went to sleep and won't come back on. I'll write it down now...
[04:53] <alien_> Can any one please help me with Visual Python error on ubuntu
[04:53] <chelz> Wilabob: here's something you might want to use in the future: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/back-in-time-a-simple-backup-tool-for-ubuntu.html
[04:53] <m1k3y> i get the odd program crash but nothing major
[04:53] <Younder> I find in general it is better to hold back on updates in version a couple of months to most of the bugs are worked out.
[04:53] <alien_> !linkok
[04:53] <alien_> VPython WARNING: errors in shader program:
[04:53] <alien_> linking with uncompiled shader
[04:53] <chelz> Wilabob: sudo -i        then   gunzip -c Backup.tgz | cpio -ivduH tar
[04:53] <kswan> m1k3y: I haven't had any trouble since installing all updated packages
[04:54] <Wilabob> chelz: thanks a bunch
[04:54] <m1k3y> nice.
[04:54] <Wilabob> chelz: bed time now g'night
[04:54] <cubano> hola a todos alguna chica de cancun
[04:54] <ARCHAN> Hi
[04:54] <m1k3y> so once the offical release comes out i can just upgrade to it right?
[04:54] <kswan> I would like to hide the join/quit messages in empathy.  Is there any way?
[04:54] <ARCHAN> i cannot install a GDM theme with gnomeART ng ... it says error that it can not find a file.. how do i install gdm greeter ????
[04:55] <Younder> m1k3y, yes
[04:55] <myron> http://www.thegadgetsgalore.com/wireless-remote-with-motion-sensor-p-969.html  <--this is the mouse device that i am having problems with, but on windows it seems to work fine.....
[04:55] <m1k3y> yay!!
[04:55] <kswan> m1k3y: if you are on 9.10 it is should work
[04:55] <m1k3y> im on 10.04 beta
[04:55] <ARCHAN>  i cannot install a GDM theme with gnomeART ng ... it says error that it can not find a file.. how do i install gdm greeter ????   Installation is not possible!-No /etc/gdm/gdm.conf available
[04:55] <athayde> anyone from Brazil?
[04:55] <gottto> !br
[04:56] <Gnea> myron: can you paste the whole line from lsusb?
[04:56] <myron> Bus 005 Device 015: ID 067b:8103 Prolific Technology, Inc.
[04:56] <alien_> I tried installing  boost 1.38 & visual-python but still I get !linkok
[04:56] <alien_> VPython WARNING: errors in shader program:
[04:56] <alien_> linking with uncompiled shader
[04:57] <alien_> Any help on this issue is greatly appreciated
[04:57] <myron> Gnea: from lsinput "vendor  : 0x67b    product : 0x8103"
[04:58] <runarfreyr> Can anyone please help me with a network problem, Im behind a cisco switch. I can use the internet but text upload does not work very well and msn in empathy and / or any other client doesnt work as well. Believe me tried almost everything. Please if anyone is kind enough to help, been scratching my head for 12 hours over this :-/
[04:59] <runarfreyr> doesnt work at all
[04:59] <runarfreyr> Oh yeah and firewall is completely off
[04:59] <myron> Gnea: I have also tested it on two different computers (one with ubuntu 9.10 and one with ubuntu 8.04)
[05:00] <myron> Gnea: neither worked
[05:01] <myron> runarfreyr: when you say text upload you mean.....?
[05:01] <runarfreyr> Using ubuntu 10,04. Tried with 9,04 and 9,1. It worked with native windows. .. Myron I mean sites like blog sites and pastebin etc
[05:01] <chelz> runarfreyr: try other OSes, other computers, connecting directly without the switch, etc?
[05:01] <runarfreyr> It worked with native windows, not in virtualbox under linux though
[05:02] <chelz> runarfreyr: so this is happening after an upgrade to 10.04?
[05:02] <ubuntu123> my answer won't be wmware
[05:02] <runarfreyr> Nope,, always been like this
[05:02] <Gnea> myron: I don't see anything for it on the kernel side of things.... it might be so new that it hasn't been integrated yet.  try making a post on www.ubuntuforums.org about it, add as much detail as you can, like the output from lsusb -v
[05:02] <runarfreyr> it works when connecting directly to the main router but not through the switch, been trying to resolve this with the ISP
[05:03] <UbuntuBoy> Question: How do I set a program to it's default settings?
[05:03] <chelz> runarfreyr: the switch might be expecting ubuntu to do something that ubuntu's not doing
[05:03] <juan_> Hello out there to all of you vitamin d deprived people
[05:03] <chelz> UbuntuBoy: depends on the program
[05:03] <myron> runarfreyr: specifically, what is happening when you try to pastebin something?
[05:03] <runarfreyr> Nothing at all
[05:03] <rosechu> so, I have winxp home installed on vmware workstation, on ubuntu 9.10. I'm writing a script to copy files from ubuntu onto a internal drive that is accessible to the guest operating system. When I run the script, the files show up fine when I browse them on ubuntu, but they don't show up at all when I browse out there in winxp
[05:04] <juan_> when is this new distro of ubuntu happening
[05:04] <rosechu> I'm trying to figure out if this is an ubuntu thing or a vmware thing
[05:04] <runarfreyr> I figured maybe there are some settings in ubuntu, since native windows worked, ?
[05:04] <Guest34805> Ad-hoc mode in b43 has stopped working in ubuntu 9.10. any pointers to debug it?
[05:04] <kswan> juan_: ubuntu 10.04 is scheduled for release the end of April
[05:04] <gottto> rosechu: what file system is the internal drive?
[05:04] <rosechu> ntfs
[05:05] <gottto> k
[05:05] <juan_> what
[05:05] <chelz> rosechu: vmware isn't part of ubuntu so it isn't supported here. but you should look into vmware tools and folder sharing, since that's how it's done with vmware. you might try seeing of virtualbox does what you want, since it's fairly similar and also has a seamless mode
[05:05] <rosechu> i thought read/write is okay with that? :o
[05:05] <ARCHAN>  i cannot install a GDM theme with gnomeART ng ... it says error that it can not find a file.. how do i install gdm greeter ????   Installation is not possible!-No /etc/gdm/gdm.conf available . Thanks in advance for your reply.
[05:05] <juan_> I was expecting it to come out thursday
[05:05] <rosechu> I asked in #vmware too, because I'm not sure what the problem is
[05:05] <rosechu> vmware works fine
[05:05] <ubuntu123> lol, warning: salesman detected!
[05:05] <chelz> ARCHAN: copy and paste everything you get in the terminal when you try to run it into a pastebin post
[05:05] <UbuntuBoy> chelz: It is a game called Super Maryo (SMC in synaptic). I changed the resolution too high and can't switch it back. Is there a way to completely remove it and then reinstall it?
[05:06] <ARCHAN> chelz, ??
[05:06] <ARCHAN> chelz, terminal ?
[05:06] <myron> runarfreyr: the switch shouldn't be blocking anything it doesn't do anything with the information.... have you tried switching ports on the switch?
[05:06] <runarfreyr> yup
[05:06] <runarfreyr> Same thing, along with 3 reboots
[05:06] <chelz> UbuntuBoy: yes, in synaptic find it, right click and click on "completely remove". then apply changes. then install it again.
[05:06] <myron> Gnea: will do. Thanks for the help...
[05:06] <chelz> ARCHAN: yes, run it in a terminal
[05:06] <switch10_> UbuntuBoy: sudo apt-get purge <package name> && sudo apt-get install <package name>
[05:07] <juan_> I have an issue with finding a video driver that will work with ubuntu 9.10 I have a toshiba satellite 2405-s201
[05:07] <myron> runarfreyr:
[05:07] <juan_> laptop
[05:07] <ARCHAN> chelz, it is in my applications > sys tools > gnome  - art next gen
[05:07] <UbuntuBoy> chelz: did it like that and it still was set in the wrong res.
[05:07] <chelz> ARCHAN: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[05:07] <myron> Irunarfreyr: what router do you have?
[05:07] <ARCHAN> chelz, what command should  i execute ?
[05:07] <ARCHAN> chelz, karmic
[05:07] <ARCHAN> koala
[05:07] <chelz> UbuntuBoy: it probably stores its configuration settings somewhere in your home folder. you need to find them and move or remove them
[05:08] <UbuntuBoy> switch10_: I'll try tha.
[05:08] <juan_> If anyone knows of a website that has a video driver for my laptop I trully would appreciate it cause I don;t want to go back to windows xp
[05:08] <UbuntuBoy> chelz: Ok thanks
[05:08] <switch10_> UbuntuBoy: it is the same as you tried with synaptic
[05:08] <runarfreyr> The ISPs switch which Im talking about is a cisco 2900 catalyst. I have tried disabling my private switch, same thing so thats not the problem.
[05:09] <switch10_> UbuntuBoy: see if there is a hidden config folder in your /home
[05:09] <chelz> ARCHAN: how did you install it?
[05:09] <juan_> I truly do not want to switch to xp if I don't have to
[05:09] <ARCHAN> chelz, i installed it from ailurus .
[05:10] <runarfreyr> juan_ you dont have to. Use virtualbox or dualboot.
[05:10] <juan_> I already cleaned my hard drive and installed ubuntu
[05:10] <rosechu> okay, so.. I thought ntfs-3g allows read/write.. I copy to ntfs drive, and it doesn't show up in my windows xp guest operating system
[05:11] <ARCHAN> chelz, http://code.google.com/p/ailurus/ .. it is similar to ubuntu Tweak... from this, i installed  gnome art next gen
[05:11] <chelz> juan_: did you install ubuntu 9.10 karmic?
[05:11] <myron> runarfreyr: what isp are you using?
[05:11] <juan_> I can't make my visual effects go beyond the first option which is nothing I can't even make it normal
[05:11] <runarfreyr> Small one basicly, serves arround 12 apartments in the apartment block I live in
[05:11] <juan_> and I install Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
[05:11] <switch10_> juan_: what kind of vid card is it?
[05:12] <rosechu> if it wouldn't be a huge burden, I'd wipe my ntfs drive and reformat it in fat32 or something.. wtf, why doesn't windows read what I add to the drive through ubuntu
[05:12] <juan_> It is a VGA card
[05:12] <kswan> juan_: did you try the Hardware Drivers menu under System --> Administration
[05:12] <switch10_> juan_: yes what brand/model
[05:12] <chelz> ARCHAN: uninstall it with ailurus
[05:12] <ARCHAN> chelz, and reinstall ?? i did that twice
[05:12] <chelz> ARCHAN: no, just uninstall it
[05:13] <chelz> ARCHAN: then do this: http://ubuntuguide.net/install-ubuntu-backgroundsiconslogin-themes-using-gnomeart-nextgen
[05:13] <juan_> I click System>administration>hardware drivers and nothing appears in the window
[05:13] <juan_> I am not sure which model it is switch10
[05:13] <UbuntuBoy> switch10_: yes, there is a data folder there, should I delete it?
[05:13] <ARCHAN> chelz, unintsalling.
[05:14] <chelz> switch10_: he said toshiba satellite 2405-s201
[05:14] <chelz> i'm looking for info on ubuntu on it
[05:14] <switch10_> UbuntuBoy: yes delete it if you are sure its for that game
[05:14] <myron> runarfreyr: hmmm..... so you tried plugging your computer directly into the isp's router and pastebin / blog services worked?
[05:14] <runarfreyr> Everything worked then
[05:15] <juan_> Its not the end of the world but it would be extremely sweet if I could enable the cube to show off of my friends how sweet Ubuntu is I even made fifteen copies to give out to my friends
[05:15] <gigetto> crank 2
[05:15] <ARCHAN> chelz, but there has no karmic version. what shall i click ?
[05:15] <Ultraparadigm> Does anyone here use a SWAP partition?
[05:15] <chelz> ARCHAN: download the jaunty one and follow the guide
[05:15] <nightsjammies> Wait, so is it possible to enable the cube?
[05:15] <ubuntu123> is ubuntu better than knoppix? how do you think?
[05:16] <ARCHAN> chelz, k
[05:16] <nightsjammies> Urp, sorry, wrong channel..
[05:16] <juan_> OK how do you find out what vga video card model you have in your laptop
[05:16] <chelz> !poll | ubuntu123
[05:16] <switch10_> juan_: sudo apt-get install sysinfo
[05:16] <chelz> nightsjammies: if you skip the part about the nvidia drivers, this might be of interest to you: http://www.howtoforge.com/enabling-compiz-fusion-on-an-ubuntu-9.10-desktop-nvidia-geforce-fx-5200
[05:16] <switch10_> juan_: its a gui that tells you all that important info
[05:17] <rosechu> can someone help me
[05:17] <chelz> !ask | rosechu
[05:17] <ARCHAN> chelz, it says "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: mono-common
[05:17] <ARCHAN> "
[05:17] <Juzzy> which pkg has base dev man pages like strstr?
[05:17] <rosechu> I've already asked it
[05:17] <nightsjammies> I've got nvidia, and I just upgraded to Lucid..
[05:17] <rosechu> I'll ask it again
[05:17] <juan_> sweet I am going to do that and I will be back
[05:17] <ARCHAN> chelz, and it's not in synaptic the monocommon
[05:17] <juan_> Ubuntu Rocks :)
[05:17] <switch10_> juan_: you have a TriStar 64C+ graphics card
[05:18] <nightsjammies> well, is nvidia 8200m 3d enabled?
[05:18] <rosechu> why doesn't windows xp see what I copy to a shared internal ntfs drive from ubuntu
[05:18] <juan_> He do you know that switch10
[05:18] <rosechu> and vice versa, I add to this drive through windows, ubuntu doesn't see the added files
[05:18] <chelz> ARCHAN: i just found this, it seems there's no version of gnomeart-ng for karmic because too many things have changed and it's taking a while to update it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=48c6c11add1c7bd5ce1bff992f61353c&p=8352731&postcount=4
[05:18] <switch10_> juan_: I used google and looked up your laptop model
[05:19] <juan_> sweet thank you so much
[05:19] <myron> runarfreyr: static ip or dynamic? And what specifically happens when you try to upload something with pastebin?
[05:19] <juan_> I appreciate it dearly
[05:19] <runarfreyr> Dynamic. Acts like theres no connection at all
[05:19] <runarfreyr> Does nothing
[05:19] <rww> juan_: manpages-dev
[05:20] <rww> sorry, mistab
[05:20] <rww> Juzzy: manpages-dev :)
[05:20] <switch10_> juan_: is yours the model with 256GB of ram and a 30gb HDD?
[05:20] <myron> runarfreyr: continues loading.... loads a blank page... times out.... ????
[05:20] <ARCHAN> chelz, ok :( thanks for your replies
[05:21] <juan_> I actually had my friend give me this laptop without a hard drive and so I went and bought a new one 250 gb
[05:21] <juan_> of hard drive
[05:21] <juan_> and I have 512 mb of memory
[05:21] <chelz> ARCHAN: sorry about that. you could try contacting the developer of that tool or installing jaunty if you really want to use it
[05:21] <ARCHAN> chelz, :-P
[05:21] <runarfreyr> Actually pastebin works now. Must have been the restart but msn is still not working. So ignore the text upload thing
[05:21] <switch10_> juan_: did you install sysinfo?
[05:22] <JohnnyDread> im having a pretty odd error (due to pretty odd circumstances) that google has as of yet been unable to help me with
[05:22] <juan_> No
[05:22] <switch10_> juan_: I am not finding anything good for that vid card
[05:22] <juan_> I have not
[05:22] <ARCHAN> chelz, should i need to install a older ubuntu to use this.. hahah! i don't wan tto.. i can wait till i get karmic version ;-)
[05:22] <rosechu> why doesn't windows xp see what I copy to a shared internal ntfs drive from ubuntu
[05:22] <juan_> uh that is going to suck
[05:22] <switch10_> juan_: do it.  hopefully you don't have that tristar
[05:23] <juan_> switch10 what do I put in the terminal to find out what graphics card I have
[05:23] <runarfreyr> lspci
[05:23] <chelz> !ask | JohnnyDread
[05:23] <runarfreyr> juan_
[05:23] <juan_> Yes
[05:23] <runarfreyr> juan_ : type lspci
[05:23] <JohnnyDread> I'm running 9.10 dual screen with and ATI card. The monitor are upside down and flipped within the display settings box. The issue is, when my mouse moves into the right hand screen a second mouse appears on the left hand screen and copies its movement. It cannot do anything, as the real mouse is in the 2nd screen
[05:23] <rosechu> sigh
[05:23] <JohnnyDread> sorry ubottu - was typing :)
[05:23] <juan_> ok I have done that
[05:24] <myron> runarfreyr: how are you connecting to msn on ubuntu?
[05:24] <chelz> juan_: so why do you need a gfx driver? what is the problem you are experiencing?
[05:24] <runarfreyr> empathy. What do you mean by how?
[05:24] <myron> runarfreyr: what service are you using? or are you just talking about msn.com
[05:24] <runarfreyr> juan:_ it says vga controller. What does it say there?
[05:24] <hyperviper> how do i get change my characters name???
[05:25] <juan_> I went to the visual effects option dialog and I click the normal option and it said searching for drivers and the another dialog pop up saying desktop could not something I forgot
[05:25] <runarfreyr> I use empathy with the default settings, so i guess its connecting through hotmail.
[05:25] <gottto> hyperviper: try /nick "newnick"
[05:25] <juan_> in laymans terms it said I couldn't switch
[05:25] <juan_> Do you know what I am talking about
[05:26] <runarfreyr> juan: go to accessories > terminal >
[05:26] <runarfreyr> and in terminal type lspci
[05:26] <switch10_> juan_:  yes.  what does it say under vga controller
[05:26] <juan_>  VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. SuperSavage IX/C SDR (rev 05)
[05:26] <runarfreyr> then it says there somewhere VGA controller, type here what it says after that
[05:26] <myron> runarfreyr: what message do you get when connecting with empathy? is it "msn0 Network error."
[05:27] <runarfreyr> Network error
[05:27] <runarfreyr> Just network error
[05:27] <Polentita> ping
[05:27] <myron> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pymsn/+bug/255307
[05:28] <myron> runarfreyr: ^
[05:28] <runarfreyr> yup. I know. Im puzzled :P
[05:28] <juan_> switch10 it says the following :  VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. SuperSavage IX/C SDR (rev 05)
[05:28] <runarfreyr> Ok there you have the type of graphic controller
[05:28] <switch10_> juan_: ok im looking...
[05:28] <juan_> sweet sorry
[05:29] <myron> runarfreyr: 1/ quit empathy via Chat > Quit
[05:29] <myron> 2/ In a terminal to find and the butterfly task via "sudo ps -A | grep telepathy-butte" then kill it via "sudo kill nnnn" where nnnn is the task number
[05:29] <myron> 3/ Restart empathy via Applications > Internet > Empathy IM Client
[05:29] <runarfreyr> done
[05:30] <disappearedng> hey anyone here knows a good ftp daemon?
[05:30] <disappearedng> a server
[05:30] <myron> runarfreyr: you already tried that?
[05:30] <runarfreyr> yup
[05:30] <UbuntuBoy> SMC is now working. Thanks :)
[05:30] <switch10_> juan_: its gonna take some hackin man, you think you are up to it?
[05:30] <switch10_> juan_: I have a link
[05:30] <hyperviper> >gottto> what did you say to do
[05:31] <juan_> Yes
[05:31] <myron> runarfreyr: have you tried pidgin?
[05:31] <runarfreyr> yup
[05:31] <myron> runarfreyr: same problem?
[05:31] <runarfreyr> And also with http login in pidgin
[05:31] <juan_> I may not alot about computers but this is the best way to learn
[05:31] <runarfreyr> But I can use ebuddy :-/
[05:32] <juan_> I may not know alot
[05:32] <hyperviper> how do i change my name of a toon
[05:32] <switch10_> ok, first of all its a howto for breezy.  I have no idea if it will work on your version of ubuntu..  but here it is http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75393
[05:32] <UbuntuBoy> switch10_: Thanks for your help. It is invaluable to a newbie like me (I been using Ubuntu 5 months), I have some other questions so ill be sure to check sometime.
[05:32] <juan_> but I will try my best I always say where ever there is a problem there is always a solution
[05:33] <switch10_> UbuntuBoy: no problem
[05:33] <hyperviper> does anyone know how to change a name of a toon
[05:33] <gottto> hyperviper: try /nick "newnick"
[05:33] <runarfreyr> juan_: Just ask questions, read tutorials and try yourself ;)
[05:33] <juan_> True
[05:33] <myron> runarfreyr: hmmm... have you tried running empathy / pidgin from terminal to check the error reports?
[05:33] <juan_> Maybe one day with my help and others we will be a free software society
[05:33] <juan_> :)
[05:34] <runarfreyr> Wait. myron, gonna see if I get some errors up
[05:34] <disappearedng> what happened to gproftpd?
[05:35] <ubuntu123> there is a empathy sitting on the menu, what's it for?
[05:35] <coll> if im on ubuntu 9.10, when 10 comes out, can i just do an upgrade? or will this require a fresh install?
[05:35] <runarfreyr> no errors
[05:35] <runarfreyr> empathy is a IM app
[05:35] <myron> ubuntu123: its a universal chat client
[05:35] <ubuntu123> can it use irc?
[05:35] <myron> no
[05:35] <switch10_> coll: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:35] <NerdsMG> I just intalled 10.04 on my MacBook Pro. However, I have two hard drives, and GRUB seems to have taken completely over my Windows / Ubuntu drive instead of letting me use rEFIt. Any ideas how to get the bootloader to the partition instead of the MBR?
[05:35] <myron> sorry...
[05:35] <ubuntu123> i think that it's crappy as pidgin
[05:36] <ARCHAN> ubuntu123, but i like pidgin .
[05:36] <bazhang> NerdsMG, #ubuntu+1 for lucid
[05:36] <coll> switch10_, that will do the job?
[05:36] <runarfreyr> the latest that comes with 10,04 can
[05:36] <runarfreyr> And facebook
[05:36] <switch10_> coll:  yup thats it
[05:36] <ubuntu123> pidgin is on my blacklist, it's back by chinese
[05:36] <NerdsMG> Sorry. Thought it was a basic thing that a nub would over-look.
[05:36] <coll> thanks
[05:36] <ubuntu123> and its gui sucks
[05:36] <chelz> NerdsMG: you install grub to a partition instead of the root of the drive
[05:36] <switch10_> coll: and some cleanup may be necessary
[05:36] <NerdsMG> I tried that during the install and it yelled at me.
[05:37] <chelz> NerdsMG: what did it say
[05:37] <switch10_> coll: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean
[05:37] <juan_> Anymore info
[05:37] <coll> switch10_, i use the desktop version, i assume update manager will take care of everything?
[05:37] <NerdsMG> Error installing grub to /dev/sdb2
[05:37] <switch10_> coll: yup you can do it that way too.
[05:37] <coll> thanks
[05:37] <switch10_> coll: no problem
[05:38] <runarfreyr> Soo... Myron, thought of any suggestions? :-/
[05:38] <chelz> juan_: the gfx card you have does not support advanced fx
[05:38] <eremite> Does anyone know why freenode has a server named after L Ron Hubbard, head of the Scientology cult?
[05:38] <ZykoticK9> NerdsMG, typically Grub gets installed to the MBR of a drive such as /dev/sdb not to a partition /dev/sdb2 - just sayin'
[05:38] <juan_> I have a gfx card
[05:38] <Myrtti> eremite: why don't you ask in #freenode?
[05:39] <chelz> eremite: there're multiple people with the surname Hubbard. that's offtopic though
[05:39] <disappearedng> I can't find gproftpd in my repos why
[05:39] <juan_> how did you find this out chelz
[05:39] <myron> runarfreyr: sorry, got lost there.... do you have another IM account that you can test... AIM, yahoo?
[05:39] <NerdsMG> ZykoticK9: I wanted it on the partition because I already have rEFIt as a bootloader to pick the partition
[05:39] <chelz> NerdsMG: just do a standard "reinstall grub2" only install it to a partition this time, then reinstall refit
[05:39] <runarfreyr> jabber works. Havent tried yahoo. Gonna try it
[05:39] <ZykoticK9> NerdsMG, ok - so long as you know what your doing - it's all good.  best of luck.
[05:40] <runarfreyr> yahoo works
[05:40] <chelz> juan_: the lack of a driver in the Hardware Driver dialog and not being able to select features in Appearances
[05:40] <runarfreyr> so basicly its just msn
[05:40] <chelz> juan_: this bug applies: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/139953
[05:41] <Kutakizukari> Can anyone help with this question? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+question/106073
[05:41] <juan_> ???
[05:41] <myron> runarfreyr: I'm wondering if this has more to do with the bug that was reported.... let me look a little more...
[05:41] <runarfreyr> ok. :) I guess I can smoke more cigarettes while drinking coffee and scratching my head :P
[05:41] <chelz> juan_: The savage graphics card does not yet work with Xgl, as it is missing required texture support. The error message from compiz will be as follows:  compiz: Support for non power of two textures missing
[05:42] <runarfreyr> Thanks myron for the help :)
[05:43] <juan_> ok so I type everyone of those sudo commands and I get back E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[05:43] <juan_> juan@juan-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-10-686
[05:43] <juan_> Reading package lists... Done
[05:43] <juan_> Building dependency tree
[05:43] <juan_> Reading state information... Done
[05:43] <FloodBot1> juan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:43] <coll> can you upgrade to the 10.04 beta now, and upgrade to the release when it comes out?
[05:43] <juan_> my bad
[05:43] <chelz> oh wow
[05:43] <switch10_> coll: I don't think so
[05:43] <juan_> chelz where do I put this info
[05:43] <juan_> that you have given me
[05:43] <chelz> juan_: er right. yeah if you compile your own kernel you i guess might get it to work
[05:44] <runarfreyr> It was possible with 9,10
[05:44] <chelz> juan_: eh ignore the stuff i've said so far
[05:44] <juan_> ok
[05:44] <switch10_> chelz: ya i sent him a link to do it..
[05:44] <chelz> switch10_: yeah i just saw that
[05:44] <chelz> sry
[05:45] <juan_> I tried everyone and I get back couldn't find package
[05:45] <juan_> is this normal
[05:45] <chelz> coll: you can but it's not recommended
[05:46] <Kutakizukari> Question got moved here can anyone help? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/106073
[05:46] <juan_> I have a intel pentium 4
[05:46] <juan_> does that help
[05:46] <switch10_> juan_: all of those packages are old.  You have to find the new ones.  You have a lot of reading to do if you are planning on doing this.
[05:47] <coll> chelz, it's best to upgrade from 9.10?
[05:47] <chelz> coll: yes
[05:47] <coll> got it. thank you.
[05:47] <runarfreyr> coll you cant upgrade from 9,04, you first have to update to 9,1 and so on
[05:47] <myron> runarfreyr: well.... since pastebin is again working... can you post your empathy logs in ~/gnome2/empathy/logs
[05:47] <ubuntu123> why don't you just wait for next release?
[05:48] <runarfreyr> yup. 1 min myron
[05:48] <coll> runarfreyr, im on 9.10 right now.
[05:48] <ubuntu123> me too
[05:48] <myron> runarfreyr: if they aren't there try ~/.local/share/Empathy/logs
[05:49] <rww> myron: (psst, it's ~/.gnome2, not ~/gnome2)
[05:49] <ubuntu123> i have to say, the default theme of gnome sucks, it's too dark and for old men
[05:49] <runarfreyr> full path myron please
[05:49] <chelz> switch10_: i think as of intrepid savage cards support dri, per this manpage http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man4/savage.4.html
[05:50] <eremite> ubuntu123: the default Ubuntu theme is always ugly.  Change it if you dislike it.  It's easy to customize the theme.
[05:50] <eremite> Of course, opinions are subjective
[05:50] <chelz> switch10_:        Option "DRI" "boolean"              Enable DRI support.  [...]  Default: "on"
[05:50] <runarfreyr> Actually eremite, your gonna get surprised when you see 10,04. Its the first ubuntu that looks amazing :)
[05:50] <lifestream> Is it possible to limit how much CPU a program can use? Say, I want to cap it at 50%. ('nice' doesn't do this, it just makes the program slower)
[05:50] <myron> runarefreyr: /home/"user"//gnome2/empathy/logs or /home/"user"/.local/share/Empathy/logs
[05:50] <jmuniz> does anyone know where I can get ubuntuone support besides the irc channel? There doesn't seem to be anyone around there.
[05:50] <runarfreyr> myron can you give me the full path?
[05:50] <chelz> juan_: open up a terminal
[05:50] <eremite> runarfreyr: Ive seen it.  It's ugly purple garbage.
[05:51] <runarfreyr> the site Im gonna paste it to :)
[05:51] <myron> runarefreyr: /home/"user"/.gnome2/empathy/logs or /home/"user"/.local/share/Empathy/logs
[05:51] <runarfreyr> oh shit
[05:51] <runarfreyr> ignore
[05:51] <runarfreyr> I need to sleep
[05:51] <runarfreyr> :P
[05:51] <FloodBot1> runarfreyr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:51] <rww> runarfreyr: watch your language, please
[05:51] <chelz> juan_: type "compiz" (without the quotes) and press enter. then copy and paste its output into a pastebin
[05:51] <myron> runarfreyr: http://www.pastebin.com
[05:51] <runarfreyr> I know :)
[05:51] <switch10_> juan_: that is interesting.  make sure you back up xorg before making changes...
[05:52] <myron> :)
[05:52] <soreau> chelz: Is there a savage driver that might be capable of running compiz now?
[05:52] <juan_> it says checking for Xgl: not present
[05:52] <chelz> juan_: please pastebin it all
[05:53] <chelz> soreau: if there is i would think it would be included with ubuntu
[05:53] <soreau> juan_: That is not a problem. Pastebin the complete output to pastebin.com
[05:53] <runarfreyr> amazing. And now I cant paste to pastebin :-/
[05:53] <juan_> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[05:53] <juan_> xset q doesn't reveal the location of the log file. Using fallback /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:53] <juan_> No whitelisted driver found
[05:53] <juan_> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[05:53] <FloodBot1> juan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:53] <chelz> !pastebin | juan_
[05:53] <chelz> juan_: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:54] <jenia> guys, can someone please tell me how to set up a normal php development environment?
[05:54] <myron> runarfreyr: hmmm and what is it doing?
[05:54] <jenia> i want to use eclipse to run and bebug my php files
[05:54] <runarfreyr> timing out it seems :-/
[05:54] <Mardok_> I'm trying to run Ubuntu with no monitor and only connect to it through VNC, but X won't start since no monitor is connected.  Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
[05:54] <runarfreyr> trying paste ubuntu
[05:54] <myron> runarfreyr: ok
[05:55] <juan_> thats what I got when I type compiz in the terminal
[05:55] <chelz> juan_: pastebin the output
[05:55] <chelz> juan_: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:55] <eremite> I only have 1 VGA port in the back of my computer.  Is it possibel to have dual monitors without buying a new graphics card, or can I use a splitter of some sort?
[05:56] <soreau> juan_: Try SKIP_CHECKS=1 compiz &
[05:56] <rodrigo> ola
[05:56] <chelz> eremite: there are spanning devices that make multiple monitors work with one video card, but it's almost always better to get a video card that supports multiple monitors
[05:56] <runarfreyr> eremite, with just one vga. Sadly no. Splitter would just split the same image to two monitors
[05:56] <yeryry> heh.. caps lock LED flashes when laptop crashes.. reminds me of an amiga ;)
[05:56] <jmcantrell> anyone use nautilus-actions? i can't get anything to show up in nautilus
[05:56] <Adamastor_> +i Adamastor_
[05:56] <ZykoticK9> !crosspost > jmcantrell
[05:57] <gottto> Mardok_: what's in the .vnc folder on the headless comp
[05:57] <runarfreyr> Same thing myron, any other way I can get this log o you?
[05:57] <runarfreyr> Thanks in advance
[05:57] <eremite> runarfreyr: what about displaying one of my virtual desktops on the other monitor?  Is that possible?
[05:57] <myron> eremite: that would require another video card.....
[05:57] <runarfreyr> I thnk not. I think you need to invest in another card
[05:58] <tiziazrou> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/EmSrfMk8  what happen with this please
[05:58] <myron> runarfreyr: hold on let me check something
[05:58] <runarfreyr> ok
[05:59] <Mardok_> gottto: Just my passwd file
[05:59] <chelz> tiziazrou: are you on lucid 10.04?
[05:59] <Mardok_> gotto: It's actually MythBuntu I'm running
[05:59] <richard_> http://pastebin.com/FjQn1m5R
[05:59] <tiziazrou> chelz : ya
[05:59] <chelz> !lucid | tiziazrou
[05:59] <chelz> tiziazrou: /join #ubuntu+1
[05:59] <richard_> i need this is python
[06:00] <gottto> Mardok_: it needs an xstartup file in there
[06:00] <chelz> !ot | richard_
[06:00] <Mardok_> gottto: Is that pretty much a .xinitrc file?
[06:01] <gottto> Mardok_: not really - I'll paste mine one min
[06:01] <myron> runarfreyr: try to paste it again to pastebin.com. It's possible that the post is going through, but the confirmation is not coming back to you.....
[06:02] <myron> runarfreyr: name the post empathy. I will watch for it
[06:02] <runarfreyr> Trying to paste a chopped down version
[06:03] <gottto> Mardok_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/406865/
[06:03] <runarfreyr> its called Runar Empathy
[06:03] <Mardok_> gottto: Thanks
[06:03] <gottto> np
[06:04] <Out_Cold> i'm trying to learn a bit about chroot-ing can i mount lvm parts then chroot into one?
[06:04] <gottto> Mardok_: and it is called   xstartup
[06:04] <chelz> Out_Cold: yep. you can chroot into any dir.
[06:05] <chelz> Out_Cold: i like this chroot setup: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7258942&postcount=1
[06:05] <Out_Cold> yea ok.. so i guess i should pull out the bt4 and pray..
[06:06] <runarfreyr> myron, i just get the php back from pastebin :-/ trying paste.ubuntu .... poster runarfreyr
[06:06] <gottto> Mardok_: I forgot that in my .xinitrc I have startfluxbox so you need something in that file
[06:07] <myron> runarfreyr: ok
[06:07] <myron> runarfreyr: what was the php message?
[06:08] <runarfreyr> post.php 0 bytes
[06:08] <juan_> hello
[06:08] <chelz> Out_Cold: i'd actually recommend an ubuntu livecd or liveusb when dealing with ubuntu systems, but your call
[06:08] <juan_> switch10 are you there
[06:08] <Mardok_> gottto: X still won't start because there's no screen anyway
[06:09] <juan_> Something went wrong everything froze
[06:09] <gottto> Mardok_: did you chmod +x the xstartup file?
[06:09] <Berzerker> anyone here use gwibber?
[06:09] <Out_Cold> chelz, i was just thinking that the lvm packages and much of what i need is already on the bt4 and really it is just ubuntu
[06:09] <switch10_> juan_: I am here..
[06:09] <juan_> hey chelz what do i put in where it says poster
[06:09] <runarfreyr> And it looks as its timing out... I really want to drive over that switch :P
[06:10] <dj_segfault> Can someone recommend a program that can remove cover art from MP3 files?  I'm hitting a bug in Banshee that prevents ipod sync for files over a certain size
[06:10] <juan_> sorry guys I had to reboot everything froze
[06:10] <runarfreyr> Can I paste it in private chat myron?
[06:10] <myron> runarfreyr: sure
[06:11] <switch10_> juan_: you backed up /etc/x11/xorg before you messed with it right??
[06:11] <chelz> juan_: you can put in whatever you want, but probably "juan_" would be good
[06:11] <juan_> I am new
[06:11] <juan_> :)
[06:12] <juan_> This is all exciting to me
[06:12] <juan_> and no I did not back up
[06:12] <juan_> besides I can reinstall I have a copy of ubuntu
[06:12] <fungo_> I think I have a problem with the command sudo apt-get update.when I run it,it won't stop.
[06:12] <{o-o}> any hostmaster here?
[06:12] <ZykoticK9> dj_segfault, EasyTag can remove mp3 art
[06:12] <juan_> there is not anything worth caring about if I lost it
[06:12] <chelz> switch10_: i don't think he messed with it
[06:12] <chelz> juan_: why did your system freeze?
[06:13] <juan_> not sure
[06:13] <switch10_> chelz: ha, ok, good
[06:13] <{o-o}> any good for serving in an internet?
[06:13] <dj_segfault> ZykoticK9: Thanks.  I tried EasyTag.  I highlighted all 6000+ files and told it to remove the cover art, and a few hours later when it said it was done, the directory was the same size.  I suppose I could try again.
[06:13] <switch10_> juan_: what command did you type before it froze?
[06:13] <gottto> Mardok_: here's the default xstartup - see that it uses twm - twm comes with X - you need X installed
[06:14] <gottto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/406868/
[06:14] <fungo_> it seems that it always get the same thing,but never hit,so he always try to do the same thing without result.
[06:14] <juan_> compiz
[06:14] <ZykoticK9> dj_segfault, the art in mp3 isn't going to take up much room (per-file i mean)
[06:14] <juan_> I will right back
[06:14] <{o-o}> hi everyone
[06:14] <Mardok_> gottto: When VNC connects, it just gives me an error message saying "Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" and some logs basically saying "there's no monitor"
[06:14] <fungo_> this is what it looks like on the screen: Get:1312 http://ubuntu.cn99.com jaunty/restricted Packages [8848B]
[06:14] <{o-o}> just wanna ask if someone know about free hosting unlimited.
[06:15] <fungo_> any one can help?
[06:15] <rww> ubottu: ot | {o-o}
[06:15] <tsyj2007> fungo_: what
[06:15] <tsyj2007> fungo_: Can I help you?
[06:15] <{o-o}> no i mean im not serving my own server
[06:16] <fungo_> tsyj2007: when I run sudo apt-get update it never stop
[06:16] <{o-o}> just wanna have free unlimited server.
[06:16] <chelz> fungo_: you possibly added that cn99.com site as a package source
[06:16] <gottto> Mardok_: which logs pls?
[06:16] <fungo_> yes
[06:16] <Deathvalley122> {o-o}: I use to do unlimited free hosting
[06:16] <fungo_> I'm in china
[06:16] <eremite> {o-o}: Impossible.  They do not exist.
[06:16] <dj_segfault> ZykoticK9: Normally you would be right.  Banshee has two serious bugs (neither on the list to be fixed anytime soon): one is that it downloads images that are much bigger than your normal cover art thumbnail and does not resize them, and the other is if the total repository size gets over a certain size it starts throwing internal errors and the sync dies.
[06:16] <chelz> {o-o}: this channel is for ubuntu discussion
[06:16] <chelz> !cn | fungo_
[06:16] <tsyj2007> fungo_: does your net well
[06:16] <bazhang> {o-o}, its offtopic here
[06:16] <{o-o}> okay im new here sorry
[06:17] <fungo_> ubottu: I have tried,but no answer
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> dj_segfault, i've never used Banshee so i wouldn't know.  Best of luck man, hope you find a fix!
[06:17] <Mardok_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/406870/
[06:17] <Deathvalley122> eremite: thats not entirely true cause I used to do unlimited free hosting
[06:18] <eremite> Deathvalley122: so, I cuold upload 10TB and you woldnt have cared?
[06:18] <bazhang> Deathvalley122, it has nothing to do with ubuntu support, please remain on topic
[06:18] <fungo_> chelz: is there any problem with the source cn99.com
[06:18] <dj_segfault> ZykoticK9: OK, thanks.  I guess I'll try EasyTag again.  I haven't found another program that syncs with ipods (as opposed to dragging and dropping files) like Banshee does, so I'm kinda stuck.
[06:18] <gottto> Mardok_: are you still using gdm on that comp? - you need to stop it and just boot it to cli
[06:18] <chelz> fungo_: if apt-get update or update manager is hanging there, then maybe
[06:19] <ZykoticK9> dj_segfault, try applying to just a few first and verify that it's working (before letting it loose on your whole collection)
[06:19] <Mardok_> gottto: Ah, okay
[06:19] <Deathvalley122> lol drive don't go that high but yes we use to do unlimited free hosting eremite not anymore though
[06:20] <eremite> Deathvalley122: then it wasnt unlimited, by definition.  Anyone that's off topic.
[06:20] <fungo_> chelz:maybe what?
[06:21] <mohan2> hi
[06:21] <chelz> fungo_: maybe there could be a problem with taht
[06:21] <Deathvalley122> lol its funny I tried to advertise my hostin WHT I think its called and they gave me a warning about my unlimited specs I had lol
[06:21] <bazhang> !ot > Deathvalley122
[06:22] <Alcor> ne1 get their Ubuntu load from OSDisc.com?
[06:22] <eremite> Alcor: no.  I always get my Ubuntu from Ubuntu.
[06:23] <fungo_> chelz: I'll change a source sever
[06:23]  * Deathvalley122 has pms turned off
[06:23] <mohan2> How can I use my mic and line as sound output, I am using jaunty 9.04.
[06:23] <eremite> mohan2: open a terminal nad type "alsamixer"
[06:23] <mohan2> *line-in
[06:23] <eremite> and**
[06:23] <mohan2> it's not working
[06:23] <chelz> fungo_: pastebin the output of this in a terminal:  sudo apt-get update
[06:23] <chelz> !pastebin | fungo_
[06:24] <eremite> Are you sure the volume is turned up in alsamixer for line-in?
[06:24] <switch10_> mohan2: alsamixer is not working??
[06:24] <rww> ubottu: ot | Deathvalley122: enjoy
[06:24] <mohan2> Alsamixer is working
[06:24] <jimbeam12> hey everyone
[06:25] <mohan2> but I'm not getting sound output
[06:25] <jimbeam12> worked one problem now the other lol
[06:25] <switch10_> mohan2: turn up the volume for your mic
[06:25] <jimbeam12> anyone have a ati card under ubuntu
[06:25] <fungo_> chelz: pastebin the output of this in a terminal????
[06:25] <unitheory> it is pointless to try to install proprietary nvidia graphics drivers on a live usb start-up disk, because i'd have to reboot to use them and changes would be lost. Is this correct?
[06:25] <switch10_> mohan2: in alsamixer
[06:25] <rww> unitheory: yes
[06:25] <Mardok_> gottto: I removed gdm from the runlevel and rebooted the machine, but it's doing the same thing.
[06:25] <unitheory> rww, thank you
[06:25] <mohan2> Nopes, I want to know how to tune line-in or mic as output.
[06:25] <chelz> fungo_: run the command in a terminal then copy it all into a pastebin at the url here: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[06:26] <rww> unitheory: unless the liveUSB is set up to have persistant storage, in which case I think the changes might be saved
[06:26] <jimbeam12> anyone know how to control fans speed have an ati hd5700
[06:26] <fungo_> chelz:get it
[06:26] <unitheory> rww, i used ubuntu's start-up disk creator and selected the option to save changes
[06:26] <ZykoticK9> Mardok_, if you want to disable GDM from Karmic use "sudo mv /etc/init/gdm.conf /etc/init/gdm.conf-disabled"
[06:26] <jimbeam12> downloaded the drivers but there is no option in the catylist drivers
[06:27] <rww> unitheory: that's what I mean by persistant. So yeah, it might save them in that case.
[06:27] <Mardok_> ZykoticK9: ??? Coming from the Gentoo user point of view, that's extremely weird, but okay :P
[06:28] <voss749> Gentoo has users?
[06:28] <Mardok_> touche
[06:28] <eremite> lol
[06:28] <ZykoticK9> !runlevels > Mardok_
[06:28] <eremite> I'd use Gentoo, but its been compiling since 2001 -__
[06:28] <ZykoticK9> Mardok_, that should blow your mind then ;)
[06:29] <rww> now now, play nice with the other distros. Gentoo doesn't take 9 years to compile... mine got done after 3 years.
[06:29] <mohan2> I feeling like I'm ignored.
[06:29] <Out_Cold> !ignore
[06:29] <mohan2> :(
[06:29] <ibm> how to chat between intern network
[06:29] <Out_Cold> oops lol
[06:29] <eremite> mohan2: be patient,  Not everyone is an expert in yoour specific problem.
[06:29] <Out_Cold> mohan2, whats your question?
[06:29] <ubuntu123> eremite, don't worry, just keep upgrade your gentoo, it will screw itself somedays.
[06:29] <switch10_> mohan2: you are trying to use your mic as an output.  I have no idea how, or why you would want to do that
[06:30] <chelz> ibm: you want to chat on an intranet?
[06:30] <ibm> chelz: yes
[06:30] <chelz> ibm: ask any of your bosses or coworkers that run linux what they use
[06:30] <{o-o}> hi anyone know how to add friends here as bookmark?
[06:30] <ubuntu123> the intranet chat is insane, you have phones
[06:31] <mohan2> Actually, my sound out pin is not working, so I configured mic and line-in as sound outputs.(in windows easily)
[06:31] <mohan2> I have realtek sound card
[06:31] <fungo_> chelz:done,then how? this is url:http://paste.ubuntu.com/406873/
[06:32] <mohan2> How could I do it with Ubuntu?
[06:32] <ibm> chelz: ???
[06:32] <jimbeam12> anyone?
[06:32] <chelz> ibm: ask any of your bosses or coworkers that run linux what they use
[06:32] <eremite> mohan2: you have tried turning up alsamixer, and made sure that your line-in is not muted and is in fact enabled?
[06:32] <chelz> ibm: ask them what they use to chat
[06:32] <ubuntu123> ibm, your hdds suck
[06:33] <chelz> fungo_: go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[06:33] <bazhang> ubuntu123, that is not helpful
[06:33] <switch10_> mohan2: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-ke/2009-June/000335.html
[06:33] <mohan2> Please let me know is it possible or impossible with ubuntu. Atleast tell me that
[06:33] <ubuntu123> yeah, don't beat a dead horse
[06:33] <andruk> grub on karmic (so grub 2) dies with "error: unknown filesystem" into grub rescue mode, and when i try to use "lsmod" it says "Unknown command `lsmod'"
[06:33] <chelz> fungo_: then click on the updown arrows to the right of "Download from:"
[06:33] <eremite> mohan2: its possible, you just need to answer the questions so we can help you figure out why you cant get sound working
[06:33] <bazhang> ubuntu123, this is not the chat channel; #ubuntu-offtopic for chat NOT here
[06:33] <switch10_> mohan2: of course it is possible... I just have never done it.
[06:33] <chelz> andruk: did this happen right after install?
[06:34] <ibm> chelz:ym
[06:34] <chelz> ibm: what?
[06:34] <Soli> mohan2: You could check out Jack. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JACK_Audio_Connection_Kit. Look for QjackCtl.
[06:35] <ubuntu123> bazhang, could you please stop to answer me? just leave me alone
[06:35] <ibm> chelz: yahoo mesenger
[06:35] <chelz> ibm: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[06:35] <mohan2> thanks @Soli
[06:35] <rww> ubuntu123: It's generally a good idea to listen to people trying to give you advice, instead of brushing them off :\
[06:36] <ibm> chelz: ubuntu 9.10
[06:36] <costre> smplayer with vdpau support made my ubuntuinstallation complete. 1080p now plays back perfectly :)
[06:36] <Soli> Jack sould work with the standard ALSO sound driver as well.
[06:36] <ubuntu123> i have a good idea about how can you fight against chinese pets
[06:36] <Soli> s/ALSO/ALSA/
[06:36] <mohan2> @soli I did loads of google before asking the query here.
[06:37] <ibm> chelz: ubuntu 9.10
[06:37] <eremite> mohan2: first result - http://www.ubuntugeek.com/simple-guide-to-sound-solutions-for-hardyintrepid-and-jaunty-jackalope-users.html
[06:37] <chelz> ibm: go to Applications -> Internet -> Empathy
[06:38] <chelz> ibm: if it's the first time you are running it, you should be shown a setup wizard
[06:38] <chelz> fungo_: still there?
[06:38] <fungo_> chelz:yes
[06:39] <chelz> fungo_: after clicking on the updown arrows, click on Other
[06:39] <chelz> fungo_: are you at that step?
[06:39] <mohan2> I have alsa and pulse @eremite
[06:39] <fungo_> chelz:there is no updown arrows?
[06:40] <chelz> fungo_: are you in Software Sources?
[06:40] <eremite> mohan2: what release?
[06:40] <chelz> ibm: is it working?
[06:41] <fungo_> chelz: sorry,
[06:41] <kingleo_> ciao perchè non riesco a visualizzare filmati in you tube?
[06:41] <chelz> !it | kingleo_
[06:41] <bootninja> howdy folks.  how are y'all doing tonight?
[06:41] <ibm> chelz: i am trying. thanks
[06:41] <eremite> mohan2: http://tinyurl.com/yap3amw
[06:41] <chelz> !hi | bootninja
[06:42] <gottto> Mardok_: I found your prob - you need an xorg.conf file with a monitor section cause it is autodetecting that one isn't there and freaking out
[06:42] <chelz> ibm: alright. if you run into any trouble just ask here.
[06:42] <andruk> chelz, no it happened after i imported a partition into virtualbox and tried to boot off of the hard drive.  :-)  slightly outside the normal mode of operation, i admit.
[06:42] <fungo_> chelz:which server you recommend?
[06:42] <chelz> andruk: did you try to boot the partition you were currently running?
[06:43] <bootninja> I'm having a bit of a sound issue.  everything works great on the laptop speakers, but when I plug in headphones, suddenly I have nothing.
[06:43] <mohan2> Friend I referred this link to configure sound card but it doesn't helped me. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound
[06:43] <chelz> fungo_: click on the "Select Best Server" button
[06:43] <mohan2> @eremite
[06:43] <crazy2k> How can I make a nice banner for ssh?
[06:43] <nightsjammies> How would I go about installing one of the themes from here: http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter
[06:44] <chelz> crazy2k: That's called a SSH Login Banner. Instructions can be found here: http://www.review-ninja.com/2009/05/login-banner-ssh-banner-howto.html
[06:44] <ZykoticK9> nightsjammies, if you are using 9.10 it's probably easiest just to believe there is no such things as GDM themes
[06:45] <Guest84409> wi ftw
[06:45] <crazy2k> chelz: No. I know how to make it appear, I just need a nice banner.
[06:45] <chelz> nightsjammies: it's not easy, but here's some info for it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1292533
[06:45] <nightsjammies> I'm actually using 10.4, so I'm in the wrong channel. Oops.
[06:45]  * aetaric yawns
[06:45] <chelz> crazy2k: you can try generating some text with figlet or using a search engine to find ascii art you like
[06:45] <fungo_> chelz:seems problem has been solved
[06:45] <Alcor> goodnight all
[06:45] <chelz> fungo_: good to hear! :)
[06:46] <crazy2k> chelz: Thanks :)
[06:46] <nomad77> crazy2k: or use linux_logo/figlet etc.
[06:46] <fungo_> chelz:thank you
[06:46] <crazy2k> nomad77: What is that?
[06:47] <Soli> mohan2: What you probably need is the "Connection" and "Patchbay" screens of QjackCtl. Look near the bottom of http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/qjackctl-ss1.html
[06:48] <fungo_> thanks tsyj2007 too for helps
[06:48] <nomad77> crazyy2k: its basically an /etc/issue but you could borrow the banner,then mod it
[06:48] <chelz> andruk: well assuming that's what you did, booting to an ubuntu livecd or liveusb, opening Partition Editor and right clicking on the partition, clicking "Check" then hitting the Apply button should be done
[06:48] <Mardok_> gottto: I'll give it a shot
[06:48] <Soli> mohan2: Beware, you can easily screw your audio setting with that amount of tweaking power.
[06:48] <mohan2> @Soli, Thanks for help. I will do it now.
[06:49] <bootninja> I found a thread on the forums that walked me through upgrading alsa, but that didn't help anything.  It's been a while since I've run linux, so I'm not sure I remember what all info even helps with troubleshooting these kinds of issues
[06:49] <bootninja> I do know that all my mixer settings are correct.  nothing is muted
[06:49] <crazy2k> chelz: For some reason, I don't see the characters well-aligned when login remotely, and I'm using the same terminal with the same font I'm using here. What could be the reason?
[06:49] <chelz> bootninja: have you gone through the soundtroubleshooting wiki article?
[06:50] <bootninja> I guess that should be my next step :)
[06:50] <chelz> !sound | bootninja
[06:51] <chelz> crazy2k: are you using the same OS in both places?
[06:51] <ZykoticK9> bootninja, if you are using Karmic 9.10 be sure to start with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems/KarmicCaveats
[06:51] <gottto> Mardok_: you should try and fix line 167 in the Xorg log - (WW) Warning, couldn't open module i810
[06:51] <nomad77> crazy2k: http://deater.net/weave/vmwprod/linux_logo/
[06:51] <msandbu> anyone know of any terminal-based temprature monitoring software?
[06:51] <crazy2k> chelz: Ubuntu 9.10 at both places.
[06:52] <bootninja> isn't lmsensors the goto temp monitor?
[06:52] <hanasaki> is there a rdp server program for ubuntu?
[06:52] <ubuntu123> just type 'sensors' in your console
[06:52] <ubuntu123> then you get everything
[06:53] <chelz> crazy2k: it might be a tabs vs spaces thing or if you changed the fonts in use in your terminal
[06:53] <crazy2k> chelz: If I try to ssh localhost in this machine, the text is wrong too.
[06:53] <chelz> !vnc | hanasaki
[06:53] <bootninja> thanks for the resources.  I'll go peruse them for a bit
[06:53] <chelz> crazy2k: it's probably tabs vs spaces. try editing the file using a terminal editing program like nano
[06:53] <crazy2k> chelz: I just did "figlet my-banner > /etc/issue.net"
[06:54] <crazy2k> chelz: It's all spaces.
[06:54] <hanasaki> yes but chelz vnc does not work..  need a gdm login screen and its busted in karmic
[06:54] <Zenker> is there a way to change the sensors to F°?
[06:54] <Guest84409> \q
[06:54] <ubuntu123> in the /etc
[06:55] <chelz> crazy2k: what does it look like when you "cat /etc/issue.net"?
[06:55] <chelz> !FreeNX | hanasaki
[06:55] <chelz> hanasaki: there's also ssh x forwarding, but it's a bit different than rdp
[06:56] <crazy2k> chelz: Looks perfect. I'm noticing the one that appears when sshing has some exta "\
[06:56] <crazy2k> "
[06:56] <ubuntu123> it's 'Ubuntu 9.10', in my issue.net
[06:57] <ubuntu123> what's the 'issue.net' file for?
[06:57] <crazy2k> chelz: In the original it's "| '_ \ /" in some place, and in the other it's "| '_ \\ /"
[06:57] <bullgard> How can I determine my video driver for my VGA compatible controller Intel Mobile 915GM?
[06:57] <hanasaki> chelz:  yes but vnc or rdp are my only options.. network security constraints
[06:57] <crazy2k> ubuntu123: A banner that gets displayed when sshing to some computer if that computer has the banner option enabled and pointing to that file.
[06:58] <ubuntu123> so, it's useless then i can delete it
[06:58] <Shazballs> IF YOU WANT TO
[06:58] <ubuntu123> lol
[06:59] <ubuntu123> for security!
[06:59] <crazy2k> chelz: It seems to be a common problem.
[06:59] <Shazballs> srsly mahn
[06:59] <crazy2k> chelz: Extra slashes.
[06:59] <chelz> crazy2k: yeah i found this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=505378
[06:59] <GSF1200S> anyone use skype on ubuntu?
[06:59] <Shazballs> yes
[06:59] <Serraphyn> Anyone know an application to develop flash files in Ubuntu?
[06:59] <Shazballs> no
[06:59] <chelz> GSF1200S: i know of people that use it
[06:59] <hanasaki> chelz:  really I need the unix rdp server so that windows can tget to it easy
[06:59] <Shazballs> I only answer yes or no questions
[07:00] <Rudd-O> quick usre question: I have 9.10 installed and I want to force a SPECIFIC KERNEL to boot with grub2.  how do I do that?
[07:00] <GSF1200S> chelz: im just wondering if static and weird noises is typical over skype
[07:00] <Rudd-O> GSF1200S: it is not.
[07:00] <Shazballs> Rudd-O, did you install the kernel?
[07:00] <bazhang> Shazballs, chat elsewhere please
[07:00] <Shazballs> I'm not chatting sir.
[07:00] <Rudd-O> Shazballs: no, the latest kernel update freezes the machine when using wireless, so I want to use th eolder kernel
[07:01] <Shazballs> Rudd-O, well you have to install the kernel to boot from the kernel
[07:01] <GSF1200S> Rudd-0: it should be completely clear? Its not horrible, but I get this faint static and then quiet popping sounds
[07:01] <chelz> hanasaki: you'd use xrdp then. http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/xrdp
[07:01] <chelz> hanasaki: sudo apt-get install xrdp
[07:01] <hanasaki> chelz:  done.  never got the thing to work.. have you gotten xrdp to work?
[07:01] <chelz> hanasaki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xrdp and http://xrdp.sourceforge.net/
[07:01] <chelz> hanasaki: i haven't tried. but that seems to be the only option for rdp support. i suggest vnc if you just can't seem to get xrdp to work.
[07:02] <chelz> GSF1200S: do you experience that with any other programs that use your mic on ubuntu?
[07:02] <GSF1200S> no
[07:02] <brontosaurusrex> GSF1200S: can you use anything else than mic input to test the transfer? (like an audio file), then you could split the test to at least two parts: 1. transmission 2. whats up with my cra** mic
[07:02] <crazy2k> chelz: And it's not fixed in the latest version in Ubuntu 9.10
[07:02] <hanasaki> chelz: issue is that the vncserver option does not work.. its busted in karmic
[07:02] <Rudd-O> Shazballs: ok, let me explain
[07:02] <Rudd-O> there are TWO kernels installed
[07:03] <chelz> hanasaki: look over this: http://www.mexlinux.com/how-to-install-xrdp-in-ubuntu/
[07:03] <Rudd-O> the one that ships with ubuntu, and an update.  the update HANGS the machine.  but booting with the one tha tships with ubuntu, is FINE
[07:03] <Rudd-O> now, I want to force the specific kernel tha tWORKS, to boot
[07:03] <Rudd-O> but grub2 is dynamic and there seems no way to be do what I want to do
[07:03] <Rudd-O> because it will fail as soon as the kernel is updated if I set a specific kernel to boot, because it is with numbers
[07:03] <GSF1200S> brontosaurusrex, chelz: My sound works fine and clear on exaile, I can record sounds via sound recorder and its clear. But, i get static on skype- its not horrible, but its there
[07:04] <Rudd-O> like default=0, that will fail
[07:04] <ubuntuboy> j sex
[07:04] <chelz> hanasaki: http://ubuntuwiki.net/index.php/Xrdp,_installing
[07:04] <switch10_> Rudd-O: remove the kernel that does not work in synaptic, then update-grub
[07:05] <brontosaurusrex> GSF1200S: i'am saying (if it is possible) the other side can send you a clean audio file via skype voice protocol, so you can check if this has anything to do with transmission itself
[07:05] <chelz> Rudd-O: finding out why the newer kernel has issues might help
[07:05] <chelz> GSF1200S: do you have the latest skype from skype.com?
[07:05] <switch10_> Rudd-O: or you could install startup-manager and use it to boot from the older kernel.
[07:05] <GSF1200S> chelz: yes
[07:05] <Rudd-O> chelz: I dont have time for that.  the machine DEADLOCKS and I can't wait until the bug report gets through and it gets fixed.
[07:06] <Rudd-O> switch10_: startup-manager
[07:06] <Rudd-O> interesting
[07:06] <switch10_> Rudd-O: its in synaptic
[07:06] <Rudd-O> there is no startup-manager
[07:06] <Rudd-O> No se pudo encontrar ningún paquete cuyo nombre o descripción coincida con "startup-manager"
[07:06] <Rudd-O> name is wrong
[07:06] <chelz> Rudd-O: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StartUpManager
[07:06] <Rudd-O> it is startupmanager together
[07:06] <Rudd-O> letme update the system first
[07:06] <Rudd-O> and I will install it later
[07:07] <Rudd-O> thanks for the tip, that was really helpful
[07:07] <chelz> !enter | Rudd-O
[07:07] <switch10_> Rudd-O: sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[07:07] <chelz> Rudd-O: of course the caveat of using a gui to mess with system files applies, stuff could break
[07:07] <Rudd-O> switch10_: yeah, that I know.  been managing debian and ubuntu systems for five years now :-) did an aptitude search to find the name of the package.
[07:08] <Rudd-O> chelz: sure, I already backed up the stuff.
[07:08] <bullgard> How can I determine my video driver for my VGA compatible controller Intel Mobile 915GM?
[07:09] <Rudd-O> bullgard: we can tell you that right now: the video driver name is 'intel'
[07:10] <bullgard> Rudd-O: But video.c: "ACPI Video Driver". Why this 'ACPI'?
[07:10] <Rudd-O> bullgard: meh!  that I do not know.
[07:11] <bootninja> ok, it looks like maybe I'm using the wrong codec.  according to the alsa-info script, I have an snd-hda-intel chip, using STAC9205 codec.  but when I look up that codec in ALSA-Configuration.txt, the 9205 only seems to talk about dells, and my laptop is a gateway.
[07:11] <Rudd-O> that is likely a subdriver for the ACPI powr management inside the card
[07:11] <Rudd-O> ahhhh
[07:11] <Rudd-O> AUDIO driver
[07:12] <razz1> has anyone used NXserver to remotely access another computer, How hard is it to set it up?
[07:12] <bootninja> does that sound like a reasonable conclusion, or am I not understanding this correctly?
[07:12] <bullgard> Rudd-O: What does your message: "AUDIO driver" mean?
[07:12] <roycebarber> yo peeps
[07:12] <chelz> bullgard: are you experiencing a problem?
[07:12] <chelz> !hi | roycebarber
[07:13]  * roycebarber has a question about usb wifi dongles. what would be a good one to buy? mine isn't supported!
[07:13] <bootninja> I dunno.  I've never had any luck with usb wireless
[07:13] <switch10_> roycebarber: look for something with a ralink chipset
[07:13] <Azh> hey guys, anyone use openvnc with firestarter?
[07:14] <bullgard> chelz: Yes I do. My Ubuntu 9.10 now and then freezes when I am using Chatzilla scrolling. (Chatzilla as a Firefox plugin.) {compiz is not switched on.}
[07:14] <switch10_> roycebarber: although I have the cheapest one money could buy and it has a realtek chipset, and it works great, so go figure..
[07:14] <chelz> roycebarber:  these should help: http://www.google.com/search?q=good+wireless+OR+wifi+usb+adapter+for+ubuntu
[07:14] <roycebarber> im using a d-link dwa-130 which i bought for Vista ages ago, and some forums say they can get it to work, but it's like walking on hot coals. ralink..hmm. not sure how to go about that. i shall consult with goog...ha!
[07:14]  * achiang upgraded to lucid beta from hardy, now wireless (ath5k) is broken. NM refuses to manage the device. is this related to a stale /etc/network/interfaces file?  i think i can recover if i knew which files to delete in order to convince NM to take over... any clues?
[07:14] <achiang> one odd symptom is, i can do an ifup ath0 and get networking for about 30 seconds before it disassociates from my AP
[07:15] <achiang> although this occurred during an upgrade to lucid, i think it's just a generic NM problem, so looking for advice on how to wipe out old config files and re-enable NM
[07:15] <bazhang> achiang, #ubuntu+1 for lucid
[07:15] <roycebarber> Ubuntu 10.04 supports Wireless N, right?
[07:15] <bullgard> achiang: Please ask this in #ubuntu+1
[07:16] <achiang> bazhang: bullgard: already did, no response -- like i said, please don't be thrown off by the mention of lucid; i think it's just a generic NM problem
[07:16] <SDr> hi
[07:16] <roycebarber> hmm i see form the other response.. +1 is the place 4 me
[07:16] <bazhang> achiang, nonetheless its the correct channel, be patient
[07:16] <achiang> just looking for some generic NM help, that's all
[07:16] <chelz> bullgard: what is the output of  lspci -nn | grep VGA
[07:17] <roycebarber> One last question... Any big downside to using the SMUXI IRC client?
[07:17] <bullgard> chelz: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller [8086:2592] (rev 03)
[07:17] <SDr> I'm looking for a noun, have you seen my noun?  what is the book in which teachers are writing the student's grade in, is called? (not the one students are taking home with them, but the one used in teacher's administration)
[07:18] <bazhang> SDr, try ##english
[07:18] <achiang> bazhang: ok, let me rephrase my question -- what do i need to do to convince NM to start managing my wireless device? delete some stale files in /etc somewhere? services conflicting with each other somehow?
[07:18] <SDr> bazhang, thank you :)
[07:18] <Guest52215> /MSG nickserv identify poo20185
[07:19] <Guest52215> oops
[07:19] <SDr> that's a good password :D
[07:19] <Guest52215> yeah luckily I don't use it anywhere else
[07:19] <Pokeruler> haha
[07:19] <Pokeruler> but
[07:19] <Pokeruler> on
[07:20] <Pokeruler> um*
[07:20] <Pokeruler> why would you identify as a guest o.o
[07:20] <Guest52215> I'm trying to figure this iPhone irc client out
[07:20] <chelz> bullgard: i do keep finding this thread: http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-x/2010-03/msg00002.html
[07:20] <PastorBarber> woah, irc on iphone. total win :D
[07:20] <Guest52215> I logged on with my regular username but can't figure out how to identify
[07:21] <PastorBarber> Does Google Android have a IRC Client??
[07:21] <switch10_> Guest52215:  are you using rooms?
[07:21] <chelz> bullgard: also i don't have experience with this, but this article might help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance
[07:21] <chelz> !ot | Pokeruler
[07:21] <Guest52215> yeah pretty cool huh? iPhone and old school irc
[07:21] <chelz> er
[07:21] <chelz> !ot | PastorBarber
[07:21] <PastorBarber> got it the first time lol
[07:21] <Pokeruler> lol
[07:21] <PastorBarber> later peeps
[07:22] <switch10_> Guest52215:  Ya I use it as well :).  you get that Iphone syncing with ubuntu yet?
[07:22] <Rudd-O> startupmanager did not help
[07:22] <chelz> Rudd-O: remove newer kernels and pin the relevant kernel packages in synaptic
[07:22] <Guest52215> no, I've got a mac also (laptop, my desktop is Linux)
[07:22] <costre> murry-chounna
[07:22] <Rudd-O> it just edited GRUB_DEFAULT
[07:23] <Guest52215> so I just sync on the laptop with iTunes
[07:23] <Rudd-O> chelz: ok that sounds very workable
[07:23] <ddrj> any clue as to why ubuntu has recently been taking close to 5-10 minutes to load login screen? haven't done anything other than install a few updates and enable remote desktop
[07:23] <Rudd-O> chelz: steps to do that?
[07:23] <chelz> Rudd-O: select packages, go to Package and click on "Lock version"
[07:23] <Rudd-O> on synaptic?
[07:23] <Rudd-O> OK
[07:23] <chelz> although wait
[07:23] <Rudd-O> which package?
[07:23] <Rudd-O> should I lock?
[07:23] <chelz> i dunno if that stops newer kernels from being installed
[07:24] <Guest52215> switch10_ do you use rooms? I'm using irchon...it's free
[07:24] <chelz> since it's like newer kernels are different packages, they don't replace older ones
[07:24] <Rudd-O> yeah
[07:24] <switch10_> Guest52215: right on.  I don't own a mac, so when I got my IPhone syncing with ubuntu, I was pretty impressed
[07:24] <Rudd-O> linux-image-generic is version 2.6.31.20.33 and it pulls linux-image-2.6.31.20.33 with it
[07:24] <Rudd-O> what now?
[07:24] <chelz> Rudd-O: ok one way to fix this is to use a wildcard pinning in apt_preferences for linux kernel stuff
[07:24] <Rudd-O> let me see if I can downgrade linux-image-generic
[07:24] <Guest52215> I've got a friend who did the same thing...he was so excited when he could sync with Linux
[07:25] <Rudd-O> there is NO WAY to downgrade
[07:25] <Rudd-O> damn!
[07:25] <Rudd-O> ok
[07:25] <Rudd-O> but I can pin it down to this version, and then my GRUB_DEFAULT will never be altered from the current value 2
[07:25] <Rudd-O> that is workable
[07:25] <Berzerker> does anyone know that program in linux that overlays the desktop with random info?
[07:25] <switch10_> Rudd-O: just remove the new kernel..
[07:25] <Berzerker> like cpu usage, ram usage, media controls, etc.
[07:26] <switch10_> Berzerker: conky?
[07:26] <bazhang> Berzerker, conky
[07:26] <brontosaurusrex> Berzerker: conky?
[07:26] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[07:26] <ardchoille> conky
[07:26] <switch10_> haha
[07:26] <Berzerker> that's it
[07:26] <Berzerker> thanks lol
[07:26] <switch10_> everyone knows that one
[07:26] <raddy> I have recently started getting this problem.
[07:26] <bazhang> also gkrellm iirc
[07:26] <eremite> I also like saidar
[07:26] <chelz> Rudd-O: in apt_preferences you can set all linux kernel packages other than the one you currently have installed to a priority low enough that they don't get installed
[07:27] <raddy> I am using 9.04 jaunty.
[07:27] <chelz> Rudd-O: you really should solve the bug though
[07:27] <Berzerker> so now that I have it, how do I use it?
[07:27] <Rudd-O> force version has no effect
[07:27] <bazhang> Berzerker, great how to a t ubuntuforums, let me find the link
[07:27] <raddy> When i add new ppa to the softwares sources, it gets added.
[07:27] <Berzerker> bazhang: thanks
[07:27] <Rudd-O> chelz: sure, but first things first lets get this machine stable
[07:27] <raddy> I have even manually added the gpg keys.
[07:27] <bazhang> raddy, please put your entire problem on to a single line
[07:27] <chelz> Berzerker: http://www.clububuntu.com/2009/03/installing-conky-in-ubuntu-light-weight.html
[07:28] <chelz> Rudd-O: well not installing kernel updates is bad for security. what's the issue that happens with the newer kernel anyway?
[07:28] <switch10_> Berzerker: conky-colors is cool too..
[07:28] <Rudd-O> chelz: this is a laptop.  security is not a problem here.
[07:28] <eremite> switch10_: what is conky-colors?
[07:28] <Rudd-O> chelz: whenever wireless is used, the machine HANGS HARD
[07:28] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5436679 Berzerker
[07:28] <chelz> Rudd-O: what brand and model number?
[07:29] <switch10_> eremite: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/CONKY-colors?content=92328
[07:29] <KayAteChef> I find that gnokme-network-manager hangs sometimes when  I use wireless
[07:29] <eremite> switch10_: you can make colors with conky by yourself, you dont need to download somone elses config files.
[07:29] <raddy> bazhang: particular package is not being shown in Add/Remove Software or Synaptic even after adding it's ppa, but when i try to manually install the deb file it says a new version is already there in the repository.
[07:29] <bazhang> raddy, link to the PPA please
[07:30] <switch10_> eremite: yes but it is way easier for Berzerker to configure :)
[07:30] <raddy> bazhang: https://launchpad.net/~gm-notify-maintainers/+archive/ppa
[07:30] <bazhang> raddy, you did update sources.list correct? (sudo apt-get update)
[07:30] <fulvio0> hi all
[07:30] <bootninja> hopefully just found my solution.  cross your fingers for me :)
[07:31] <raddy> bazhang: Softwares sources reloads the list every time i make changes.
[07:31] <costre> I experience quite a lot of "unexpected closes" in 10.04, but updates are coming in fast ... I guess things are being being taken care of
[07:31] <guntbert> !lucid | costre
[07:31] <bazhang> costre, #ubuntu+1 for lucid please
[07:31] <raddy> bazhang: moreover i selected to show "All available applications"
[07:31] <switch10_> costre: remember that it is in beta.  it is not released yet.
[07:32] <costre> ok, will do
[07:32] <shan> Hi! I am using ubuntu 9.10 and have a PVR 150 video capture card.  I am able to see the image only in black and white when I view it through mplayer /dev/video0
[07:32] <bazhang> raddy, you are using karmic? and you added the PPA thus:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name ?
[07:32] <shan> could someone tell me how to over come this and be able to view in colour?
[07:33] <raddy> bazhang: i am using jaunty. not karmic
[07:33] <eremite> shan: be more specific.
[07:33] <brontosaurusrex> shan: i'd guess your in pal land and your card is configured as ntsc, or something in that area
[07:33] <fulvio0> someone can help me with a littler problem on ubuntu
[07:33] <costre> shan, Use a interface like smplayer and choose different video output?
[07:34] <shan> brontosaurus rex: I have used v4l2-ctl and changed the format to pal
[07:34] <bazhang> raddy, and when you apt-cache search thatpackage is it found?
[07:34] <bullgard> chelz: I am still reading the article which you suggested. --  Thank you for your help.
[07:34] <raddy> bazhang: I don't understand.
[07:34] <raddy> bazhang: apt-cache?
[07:35] <bazhang> raddy, the package is gm-notify , correct? in terminal apt-cache search notify or apt-cache search gm-notify
[07:35] <shan> costre: I did use the s-video input and also the composite1 input. In svideo input I am getting a very grainy image
[07:35] <costre> shan, My bad, I missed it was about input
[07:36] <costre> in that case, my guess is PAL vs NTSC also
[07:36] <chelz> shan: you might need to install a newer ivtv driver
[07:36] <costre> shan, composite is supposed to be far grainier that svideo
[07:36] <shan> When I use the ntsc mode I get waves but in pal mode I get a good image but in black and white
[07:36] <chelz> shan: looking over this might help: http://www.simsemporium.com/Stuff/Mythtv+-+PVR-150+-+Ubuntu+-+New+Zealand+HOWTO.html
[07:37] <raddy> bazhang: correct result is showing up in apt-cache.
[07:37] <shan> thats what I thought too.
[07:37] <costre> shan, Can you change the output from the transmitter?
[07:37] <bazhang> raddy, and sudo apt-get install gm-notify ?
[07:38] <shan> chelz: I will surely take a look at it.
[07:38] <raddy> bazhang: but running that command wouldn't spoil the actual intention of my question?
[07:38] <ddrj> hi guys had a question... any clue as to why ubuntu has recently been taking 5-10 minutes to load to the login screen? i haven't done anything other than install a few updates and enable remote desktop
[07:38] <picard1421> is anyone familiar with microsoft acess?
[07:38] <andruk> how do i install the flash plugin for the chrome beta
[07:38] <bazhang> picard1421, relating to ubuntu?
 No, I am using a dvd player and don't have that option
[07:39] <chelz> ddrj: you can install something like bootchart to see what's taking up time
[07:39] <bazhang> raddy, thought you wanted to install it
[07:39] <raddy> bazhang: as i didn't say i have problems installing apps from newly added ppa in command line too, as i didn't try.
[07:39] <ddrj> thanks chelz!!!!
[07:39] <ddrj> checking
[07:39] <chelz> ddrj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootCharting
[07:39] <raddy> bazhang: but not via command line
[07:39] <costre> shan, Really? Most dvdplayers I have used can change their output if you have a certain TV
[07:39] <bazhang> raddy, you mean not being in add/remove? not everything is shown there
[07:40] <bootninja> somebody wasn't crossing their fingers. no joy :(
[07:41] <raddy> bazhang: apps from newly added ppa are not being shown in Add/Remove and Synaptic, but it shows up while trying to manually install the deb file and in apt-cache search results, this my problem.
[07:41] <shan> costre: I will check to see if that is the problem, but earlier when I used the same dvd player and a different card I was able to view the images in colour?
[07:41] <brontosaurusrex> raddy: the command to install something without the keys is something like: sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install theapplicationname
[07:41] <costre> shan depends on the card I guess
[07:41] <shan> maybe
[07:41] <chelz> bootninja: all a learning experience
[07:41] <bazhang> raddy, how is that a problem? you can install them, correct? something aesthetic?
[07:42] <brontosaurusrex> raddy: with my guess that you got the PGP stuff wrong
[07:42] <raddy> brontosaurusrex: i didn't say i have not added the gpg signature files
[07:42] <brontosaurusrex> raddy: GPG i mean*
[07:42] <shan> chelz and costre please do send me a mail to shan at spiretek dot in if you can think of some solution.
[07:42]  * viktor echo listening to 8 Wonders - Eventuality 
[07:42] <viktor> eh
[07:42] <ddrj> chelz: just wondering, does this show what's being loaded prior to the ubuntu login screen ? or after
[07:43] <shan> It will be of great help to me.  I have been working on this for the past 3 days.
[07:43]  * viktor listening to 8 Wonders - Eventuality 
[07:43] <viktor> hess
[07:43] <chelz> shan: i'd try something that's outputting a signal you know for sure is either ntsc or pal, if that doesn't work then it might be a driver thing
[07:43] <guntbert> !ot | viktor
[07:43] <aboeing> hi, I am having a problem with ubuntu - i can ping other computers on my network, but I can't ping google. (windows computers can ping google). does anyone know what the problem might be?
[07:43] <viktor> sorry
[07:43] <costre> shan, Google the hell out of it :)
[07:43] <chelz> shan: talking to mythtv people could also help
[07:43] <ardchoille> Is there any way to theme the notification popups that appear at the top right of the screen?
[07:44] <shan> sure, is the mythtv channel with the same name?
[07:44] <chelz> ddrj: i think before, but it might also include to a dkestop
[07:44] <clp> how to use grep command to grap text in multi-lines, such as ^CV_API.*($)*;$?
[07:44] <bootninja> aboe: it sounds like you don't have access to a dns server
[07:44] <ddrj> awesome, ty
[07:44] <chelz> shan: #mythbuntu and #mythtv
[07:44] <raddy> bazhang: it is simply not an aesthetic issue, it is what how things should work, this problem occured for another recently added ppa to, but eventually it is working.
[07:44] <srv> Please introduce me a nice shell torrent client.
[07:44] <srv> not a GUI one
[07:44] <shan> thank for your inputs, I will try those channels too.
[07:44] <brontosaurusrex> srv: rtorrent ?
[07:44] <bazhang> srv, rtorrent
[07:44] <chelz> ddrj: http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/151496
[07:45] <ddrj> ty
[07:45] <aboeing> bootninja: ah.. how do I set a nameserver in linux?
[07:45] <ddrj> checking
[07:45] <srv> brontosaurusre, bazhang, thank you
[07:45] <maginot> aboeing, that nos a one word setup
[07:45] <maginot> aboeing, thats not a one word setup
[07:45] <bootninja> aboe: if you're using dhcp then it should work automagically, least it always has for me
[07:46] <brontosaurusrex> srv: and being cool, you would need to read on how to use that remotelly with 'screen'
[07:46] <bootninja> aboeing: are you able to access internet from other computers on your network?
[07:46] <srv> brontosaurusre, hmm
[07:46] <guntbert> aboeing: !pastebin your /etc/resolv.conf
[07:48]  * srv wants to propose Tux
[07:48] <aboeing> root@oddity:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces
[07:48] <aboeing> auto lo
[07:48] <aboeing> iface lo inet loopback
[07:48] <aboeing> auto eth0
[07:48] <aboeing> iface eth0 inet static
[07:48] <aboeing> address 192.168.1.209
[07:48] <aboeing> netmask 255.255.255.0
[07:48] <FloodBot1> aboeing: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:49] <raven> hi - how to read,extract a .PBF?
[07:49] <aboeing> nameserver 192.168.1.253
[07:49] <FlameLord> why is the zsh package around ten times as large as the zsh-static package?
[07:50] <FlameLord> wouldn't the zsh-static package be larger because it's compiled with libraries?
[07:50] <aboeing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/406892/
[07:50] <nomad77> !pastebinit > aboeing
[07:50] <aboeing> bootninja: yes, other (windows) computers can access the internet
[07:51] <maginot> aboeing, if you problem is DNS you can always try a public DNS server like: nameserver 8.8.8.8 if not work just back to the old 192.168.1.253 you had before
[07:51] <raddy> brontosaurusrex: i checked the signing key, even that is also correct.
[07:52] <tacotruck> yo ubuntu dudes...wats the command thats shows all the uuid address?
[07:52] <tacotruck> and the mount location... i.e. /dev/sdk1
[07:52] <musicrazyjavier> HOLA
[07:52] <aboeing> maginot: thanks. also, do I reset the networking via /etc/init.d/networking reset, or do I need to do something else for DNS?
[07:52] <nomad77> tacotruck: df ?
[07:52] <raven> how to read,extract a .PBF?
[07:52] <red2kic> tacotruck: blkid and fdisk -l
[07:52] <maginot> aboeing, just change the address and will work out of the box
[07:52] <musicrazyjavier> alguien que me pueda ayudar
[07:52] <maginot> no restart or anything is needed
[07:53] <FlameLord> oh wait, sorry, I see--zsh-static depends on zsh
[07:53] <musicrazyjavier> ?
[07:53] <nomad77> !es | musicrazyjavier
[07:53] <bootninja> this is getting really annoying.  when I insert the headphones, I hear sound for maybe half a second before it cuts out
[07:54] <bootninja> so If I didn't know any better, I'd think it was just a bad jack, but I know that's not the problem
[07:55] <maginot> bootninja, so do you think isn't your jack problem ? Do you have anything on the logs?
[07:55] <aboeing> ok, now it knows the IP for google. but i still can't ping it:
[07:55] <tacotruck> damn! everytime i copy and paste when im vncing into my ubuntu box...the vnc connection closes!!!
[07:55] <chelz> raven: pbf or pdf?
[07:55] <aboeing> PING www.l.google.com (66.249.89.105) 56(84) bytes of data.
[07:55] <raven> how to read,extract a .PBF (Paragon Drive Backup)?
[07:55] <aboeing> 4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3009ms
[07:56] <raven> chelz its an windows mobile backup image
[07:56] <maginot> aboeing, ping 8.8.8.8
[07:56] <tacotruck> and i cant get the vnc connection back up till i restart
[07:56] <chelz> bootninja: in Volume Control is the Headphones switch checked?
[07:56] <aboeing> maginot: it does the same thing. (I set the DNS to a local DNS) I can try 8.8.8.8 if you like
[07:57] <chelz> raven: you can try using windows utilities to do that in wine
[07:57] <maginot> aboeing, 8.8.8.8 is the public dns provided by google...
[07:58] <maginot> aboeing, it like a last resort alternative, I use it here, so I know it's working... do you are behind any firewall ? Its from a domestic network you are trying to connect?
[07:58] <bootninja> chelz: volume control meaning the speaker icon in the system tray, or alsamixer?
[07:58] <maginot> bootninja, alsamixer will work too
[07:58] <bootninja> in alsamixer I went in and moved all sliders to 100%.  that was the first thing I did
[07:58] <aboeing> maginot: 8.8.8.8 isn't working for me, this is a network at work that I am using.. the linux computers used to work
[07:58] <telmich> btw, what is gnome/ubuntu doing, if one plugs the volume control wide over 100%?
[07:58] <MoeRoman> Hi All
[07:59] <maginot> aboeing, so I suspect you are behind some kind of firewall ...
[07:59] <bootninja> aboe: do you have to login to a windows domain to access the web on your work network?
[07:59] <chelz> bootninja: speaker icon "Open Volume Control" is what it is in intrepid
[07:59] <aboeing> bootninja: no.
[07:59] <aboeing> maginot: I have asked our IT guy, and he says "there is no firewall"
[07:59] <bootninja> I don't see anything like that.  if I right click speaker icon I only get sound preferences and mute
[08:00] <maginot> aboeing, I think I come in the middle of you problem, just saw the dns problem, what kind of issue are you having ?
[08:00] <maginot> bootninja, can you go to the console and type alsamixer and see if any controls are muted or without volume ?
[08:00] <aboeing> maginot: the problem is i can ping things within my local network, but not to the outside world. windows computers and mac computers on this network are not having any problems
[08:01] <MoeRoman> Simple yet annoying issue: I was testing a BASH script, ended up renaming my Desktop directory in my home directory, and now - even though I renamed it back to "Desktop", my desktop shows icons for content under my home directory
[08:01] <maginot> aboeing, ok, lets start over. But you can access websites ?
[08:01] <aboeing> maginot: not on the linux computer
[08:02] <hon> Would anyone be able to tell me if you can use exFat/Fat64 on ubuntu?
[08:02] <maginot> aboeing, pastebin your /etc/resolv.conf together with your /etc/hosts
[08:02] <bootninja> maginot: I just verified that in alsa mixer, nothing is muted and everything is at 100% volume
[08:02] <costre> oh, yes! bluetooth keyboard+mouse installed and working like a charm! Things sure have changed since Hardy :D Ubuntu rocks
[08:02] <maginot> bootninja, your logs are showing anything when you try to play a sound or when you plug the headphone ?
[08:02] <bootninja> which logs?  dmesg?
[08:02] <chelz> hon: An experimental, open source Linux kernel module that supports the reading of exFAT files is currently under development.[5]  A closed source, read/write Linux driver, licensed and derived from the Microsoft exFAT driver, is available for purchase from Tuxera.[6]"
[08:02] <sYskk> how do i unrar a file in ubuntu ?
[08:03] <chelz> hon: from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT
[08:03] <brontosaurusrex> costre: did you have to install anything? karmic?
[08:03] <sYskk> i tried apt-get install rar and unrar but it says pack is no available
[08:03] <costre> sYskk, install "unrar"
[08:03] <aboeing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/406901/
[08:03] <bootninja> won't tar unzip rar files?
[08:03] <maginot> bootninja, dmesg is one of them... you can try /var/log/daemon.log /var/log/user.log and /var/log/syslog
[08:03] <costre> sYskk, change your download locations perhaps
[08:03] <hon> Thanks, Hon out.
[08:03] <sYskk> costre: how ?
[08:03] <chelz> sYskk: you need to go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[08:03] <costre> sYskk, synaptic preferences
[08:04] <chelz> sYskk: check universe main restricted multiverse
[08:04] <maginot> aboeing, ok, if you are not behind any firewall change you resolv.conf to have ONLY nameserver 8.8.8.8
[08:04] <MoeRoman> How do I link my Desktop directory to my actual graphical Desktop?
[08:04] <srv> What's the best shell log viewer?
[08:05] <phexter> anyone here proficient with bazaar?
[08:05] <telmich> srv: tail
[08:05] <sYskk> im on ssh
[08:05] <maginot> aboeing, for any reason are you talking here using the problematic computer? pastebin the out put of route -n (ip route show is good too)
[08:05] <aboeing> maginot: will that work, even if I can't ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[08:05] <aboeing> maginot: no, I am using a different computer to chat
[08:05] <srv> telmich: thanks
[08:05] <maginot> aboeing, we will get there...
[08:06] <ubuntu123> the 8.8.8.8 is not a server
[08:06] <ubuntu123> you will be redirected to local servers
[08:06] <maginot> ubuntu123, is the Public DNS provided by Google, 8.8.8.8 is the primary and 8.8.4.4 is the secondary
[08:06] <chelz> srv: System -> Administration -> System Log
[08:06] <Berzerker> anyone know anything about how I can find weather codes for my nearest weather station (for the conky script)
[08:06] <srv> chelz: yeah that's gnome-system-log, thank you
[08:06] <ubuntu123> and maybe chinese can read these logs
[08:07] <aboeing> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[08:07] <srv> haaa ha
[08:07] <aboeing> nameserver 8.8.8.8
[08:07] <bazhang> ubuntu123, what does that have to do with ubuntu support?
[08:07] <ubuntu123> i have used it
[08:07] <Joe123> hi
[08:07] <ubuntu123> i cant hear you
[08:07] <ubuntu123> hahahaha
[08:07] <aboeing> (still can't ping google.com, or an external IP)
[08:08] <maginot> aboeing, pastebin the output of route -n (ip route show is good too)
[08:08] <lewkus> /server irc.gamesurge.net
[08:08] <lewkus> /server irc.gamesurge.net
[08:08] <lewkus> WTF
[08:09] <maginot> lewkus, try in the server tab ;)
[08:09] <aboeing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/406905/
[08:09] <maginot> aboeing, do you can ping 192.168.1.253?
[08:10] <MoeRoman> Anyone know where I can configure my desktop to show the contents of my Desktop directory?
[08:10] <Joe123> I've got a slight problem on Ubuntu 9.10: when opening Firefox or Thunderbird the windows open at borders of the desktop (ie the last size of the window persists, but the position where it was closed does not)
[08:10] <bootninja> maginot: only thing I see in any of those logs that seems to have anything to do with sound is Mar 31 02:07:32 bootninja-laptop pulseaudio[4975]: ratelimit.c: 127 events suppressed
[08:11] <brontosaurusrex> MoeRoman: i'd assume there is some file in /home/user, the kind that starts with a .
[08:11] <maginot> bootninja, just to understand, how do you know isn't your headfone or the jack problem?
[08:11] <MoeRoman> brontosaurusrex: ok, I will look
[08:11] <MrApple> I need to adjust the roaming aggressiveness of my wireless
[08:12] <maginot> aboeing, pastebin ifconfig output please.
[08:12] <brontosaurusrex> MoeRoman: it may be /home/user/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[08:12] <maginot> MrApple, roaming aggressiveness ...
[08:13] <MrApple> for my wireless connection maginot
[08:13] <aboeing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/406906/
[08:13] <Joe123> If this is some sort of 'feature' that is supposed to help keeping my windows ordered, I'd be happy to know where I can turn it off
[08:13] <bootninja> maginot: I know that's not the problem, because it worked fine in windows.  I had this problem last time I installed ubuntu about a year ago and then went back to windows and just freshly installed 9.10 two days ago. and it worked fine in windows
[08:13] <maginot> MrApple, can I ask what kind of problem are you havin?
[08:13] <MoeRoman> brontosaurusrex: cool, looking
[08:14] <phexter> if i try to branch something like lp:xyz with bazaar i get the following error message :- "bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist." branching over http works fine. any ideas / solutions?
[08:14] <bootninja> maginot: I did just see this in dmesg,"ALSA hda_intel.c:695: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x001f1500
[08:14] <bootninja> " dunno if htat's relevant
[08:14] <IceDeep> I got a question, anyone know if it's possible to have say 2 Ubuntu computers, networked and share tasks/calander items through evolution? Also can I change my programs selected in the notification/email/im area if evolution can't do so and another program can?
[08:15] <maginot> bootninja, HDA intel is a very problematic driver =/ I think you will find a lot of bugs related... have you tried updating the kernel?
[08:15] <MrApple> I have internet threw my apts, each building has multiple connections to ensure a good connection, they think I've been dropping so much do to my wireless jumping from point to point, maginot
[08:16] <maginot> aboeing, very odd, everything seens to be right. You said you can ping other computer of the local network right, so can you ping the one you are using right now?
[08:17] <maginot> MrApple, sorry, still can't understand what the roaming aggressiveness will do for you.
[08:17] <aboeing> yes:
[08:17] <aboeing> PING 192.168.1.70 (192.168.1.70) 56(84) bytes of data.
[08:17] <aboeing> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.70: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.140 ms
[08:17] <andruk> can i change where the documents folder is on Ubuntu? without using symlinks?
[08:17] <bootninja> maginot: so I'm noticing.  I'm using kernel 2.6.31 is there a simple method of installing a new kernel, or do I have to compile it?
[08:17] <MrApple> by making it less aggressive it will supposedly cause me to jump from point to point less
[08:18] <maginot> bootninja, if you are using ubuntu you try and see if update manager have anything new there
[08:18] <maginot> MrApple, but why can you just setup one default ap ?
[08:18] <bootninja> according to update manager my system is up to date
[08:19] <MrApple> they don't assign static ips
[08:19] <MrApple> maginot,
[08:19] <kanjeng> erwr
[08:19] <kanjeng> uh
[08:19] <maginot> MrApple, ok, but you don't need one to do that... you can just assign a default ap by it MAC address
[08:20] <MrApple> maginot, and I've done that but I still have issues with dropping randomly
[08:20] <MoeRoman> brontosaurusrex: wish I knew how to modify that back to default
[08:20] <MrApple> so they suggested this
[08:21] <brontosaurusrex> MoeRoman: i can paste mine if that is of any help?
[08:21] <MoeRoman> brontosaurusrex: yeah
[08:21] <maginot> bootninja, lets see if we can get any interesting output... what app are you using to play the sound? do you have vlc or something like that that we could run from the console and see what outputs it gaves ?
[08:22] <brontosaurusrex> MoeRoman: http://b.pastebin.com/bPpai5Mk
[08:22] <bootninja> maginot: indeed I can.
[08:23] <MoeRoman> brontosaurusrex: brb
[08:23] <maginot> MrApple, well, if you have to do something like that, first is see what kind of hardware you're using, to see if you have support for that
[08:24] <quietone> IceDeep: i used a WebDav tut at ubuntugeek.com to do similar on home network
[08:24] <Kartagis> I'm using thunderbird 3.0.3 and I set up a news server. however it says xxx:563 uses an invalid security certificate. all the settings are right. what can I do now?
[08:25] <SrO> Bonjour
[08:25] <IceDeep> quietone, Thanks. I will mark it down to check out. I know thunderbird might work as well. I was just hoping evolution would do it since it's built in
[08:25] <SrO> only speak english or somebody speak french?
[08:26] <Flannel> !fr | SrO
[08:26] <SrO> thank you Flannel ;)
[08:27] <bootninja> maginot: running an mp3 in vlc from terminal I get output:[0x28240d8] pulse audio output: No. of Audio Channels: 1
[08:27] <MoeRoman> brontosaurusrex: ta-ra! Done
[08:27] <aboeing> maginot: just wondering if you had any more ideas on what the problem could be? if not, thank you very much for your help so far - at least now i have a working nameserver
[08:27] <brontosaurusrex> MoeRoman: cool
[08:27] <MoeRoman> brontosaurusrex: Thanks man, solved
[08:28] <maginot> aboeing, let me think for a while, you setup seen to be okay... but just a sec, maybe we missed something
[08:28] <MoeRoman> brontosaurusrex: Cool thing is, I thought the default value was as you provided, yet I was not sure, however, after I restarted X, it worked
[08:28] <bootninja> aboeing: you could always try the old windows standby and reboot :)
[08:28] <SrO> nobody how can help me? somebody know how to use PDT eclipse with Zend Debugger?
[08:29] <MoeRoman> brontosaurusrex: have a nice one, and thanks again
[08:29] <brontosaurusrex> MoeRoman: contra and np
[08:30] <MoeRoman> brontosaurusrex: contra? :)
[08:30] <theadmin> How can one determine the mime-type of file trough a terminal?
[08:30] <maco> theadmin: the file command
[08:30] <MoeRoman> Anyway
[08:31] <MoeRoman> See you all later
[08:31] <maginot> aboeing, ip route show, and #route del 169.254.0.0  (remove that 169.254.0.0 from you route list... )
[08:31] <MoeRoman> MoeRoman out
[08:31] <theadmin> maco: Thanks. That does it.
[08:31] <maginot> aboeing, put together the output of ethtool eth0
[08:32] <theadmin> Wish i could find a list of all those commands somewhere :/
[08:32] <ja660k> is there a exe decompiler in ubuntu?
[08:32] <quietone> IceDeep: evolution's home page says it supports Web calendar. You could try  #evolution on irc.gimp.org
[08:33] <IceDeep> Thanks quietone  :)
[08:33] <theadmin> ja660k: decompiling is a tough process, it all depends on what language it's in. But you can RUN exe apps with WINE. See winehq.org for more info.
[08:33] <maginot> ja660k, maybe on #gdb they could give you a good answer
[08:34] <ja660k> theadmin, yeah i dont want to run it, its one of those "FREE SECURITY SCAN" things i just wanna see whats inside them
[08:34] <maginot> ja660k, I remember one time ago asking there something like what you are looking for
[08:34] <ja660k> maginot, thanks :)
[08:34] <white1> I am looking for support for sharing my wired internet to my wireless via infrastructure. I have looked everywhere, ubuntu forums google, and blog sites, nothing was useful the way I want to use it.
[08:34] <theadmin> ja660k: Submit it to ThreatExpert or VirusTotal...
[08:34] <white1> I have found support to do the sharing backwords though
[08:35] <ja660k> theadmin, okay
[08:35] <rocket16> Hm, Empathy takes several minutes to connect, why?
[08:35] <maginot> white1, you will have to use some iptables & iproute configuration, maybe #netfilter is the best place for looking further info (or google)
[08:35] <brontosaurusrex> do i need to 'fstab' virtualbox shared folders? (linux is guest in this case)
[08:36] <white1> okay I will check that room out thanks maginot
[08:36] <maginot> brontosaurusrex, fstab is just to mount partitions.... do you need to pre-mount any partition for using your share?
[08:36] <rocket16> I am trying to make a switch to Empathy, but it is no working nicely,
[08:36] <theadmin> bleh. "devicekit-disks: abstraction for enumerating block devices"... They coulda give a better description
[08:36] <Kartagis> I'm using thunderbird 3.0.3 and I set up a news server. however it says xxx:563 uses an invalid security certificate. all the settings are right. what can I do now?
[08:36] <chelz> white1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1360206
[08:37] <brontosaurusrex> maginot: i did 'sudo mount -t vboxsf mintShared ./'
[08:37] <rocket16> Empathy takes a lot of time to connect to the gtalk or irc, any solution?
[08:37] <chelz> maginot, white1: actually just using Network Manager might work
[08:37] <brontosaurusrex> maginot: and it worked for a while
[08:37] <ja660k> theadmin, this thing is riddled with trojans, i cant believe people actually fall for this
[08:37] <theadmin> ja660k: :D Many do.
[08:37] <maginot> chelz, Hmm will take a look, that would be new to me
[08:37] <chelz> ja660k: here's a challenge: find a way to get people to not fall for those
[08:37]  * rocket16 is waiting
[08:38] <rocket16> Friends, any solution?
[08:38] <ja660k> chelz, that is THE challenge
[08:38] <maginot> brontosaurusrex, well, we coud keep trying things, but #virtualbox is the right place
[08:38] <rocket16> Empathy!
[08:39] <brontosaurusrex> maginot: right
[08:39] <rocket16> !Empathy
[08:39] <Berzerker> what's the variable for displaying a username in conky?
[08:39] <chelz> rocket16: you could try running it in a terminal and seeing if anything looks off in the output
[08:39] <rocket16> chelz: Ok,
[08:39] <theadmin> For GNOME, huh. What is XFCE's instant messenger?
[08:39] <chelz> Berzerker: in bash and stuff it's $USER
[08:40] <Shazballs> why does google chrome run multiple processes?
[08:40] <chelz> Shazballs: that's offtopic
[08:40] <Shazballs> chelz, I didn't really think so
[08:40] <bootninja> shaz because that way one tab crashing doesn't crash the browser
[08:40] <theadmin> chelz: not really, it might be Linux/Ubuntu-specific
[08:41] <Berzerker> chelz: awesome, thanks
[08:41] <theadmin> Shazballs: But i have an assumption that this is because of separate tab thingy, so that one tab can't crash the whole browser
[08:41] <bootninja> ^^
[08:42] <maginot> chelz, really don't get it how that link would help sharing a wirelless connection to a wired connection ...
[08:42] <chelz> Berzerker: more on that is here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[08:42] <johntramp> hi i have been given an external harddrive to copy some stuff onto. when i plug it in fisk says it doesnt contain a valid partition table. would this be because it has possibly been formated on a mac?
[08:42] <Shazballs> k thanks
[08:42] <Berzerker> chelz: I have lm-sensors installed, but it doesn't display temp
[08:42] <costre> Speaking of web browsers, pretty much the only thing I can't get to work is the flash over at www.isketch.net ... can anyone have a look and see if it works for them?
[08:42] <maginot> johntramp, maybe you have to format it before using?
[08:42] <chelz> maginot: i thought it was the other way around, that they wanted to share a wired to a wireless
[08:43] <johntramp> maginot: no she said there is some stuff on there already
[08:43] <chelz> Berzerker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[08:43] <maginot> johntramp, see what dmesg tells you after you plug the device (it will say what it can't be mounted)
[08:43] <rocket16> Hm, to me, the Gnome-XChat is better than Empathy for irc
[08:44]  * rocket16 is happy with Gxchat
[08:44] <maginot> I use xchat, have nothing to complain of :D
[08:44] <bootninja> didn't even know empathy had irc support
[08:44] <chelz> white1: for the opposite, here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyWirelessToWiredConnectionSharing
[08:45] <bootninja> that why they swapped pidgin out for it?
[08:45] <costre> Xchat here too ... I don't know if encryption is easily solvable in gxchat as in xchat
[08:45] <chelz> bootninja: both empathy and pidgin rely on libpurple, which supports irc. i'm pretty sure.
[08:45] <maginot> bootninja, don't even know empathy =X
[08:45] <theadmin> Empathy is a huge meh so far :/ Don't mean to provoke a flamewar, but the interface is horrible so far
[08:45] <bootninja> chelz:  I wasn't contradicting you, merely expressing my ignorance :)
[08:45] <theadmin> chelz: No, empathy uses Telepathy, not libpurple
[08:46] <chelz> theadmin: you can always install pidgin
[08:46] <Berzerker> chelz: Next, run "sudo /etc/init.d/module-init-tools".
[08:46] <costre> can anyone running ubuntu try http://www.isketch.net and see if the flash displays correctly?
[08:46] <theadmin> chelz: I'm using it right now :D
[08:46] <Berzerker> chelz: I get this when I run it: Usage: /etc/init.d/module-init-tools COMMAND
[08:46] <[]zombie> hi there, all of a sudden i can't ssh to my desktop.... i get a timeout error...  can anyone help?
[08:46] <GSF1200S> how can I have ssh installed but it says command not found when I do ssh user@host
[08:46] <bootninja> GSF, are you root?
[08:46] <chelz> Berzerker: "sudo /etc/init.d/module-init-tools start"
[08:46] <theadmin> Berzerker: I think you need to append "start" after that line. or 'stop"
[08:46] <GSF1200S> bootninja: yes
[08:46] <rocket16> lol,getting back to old xchat
[08:46] <theadmin> costre: That's shockwave, not flash, an OLLLLLLLLLD windows thing
[08:47] <bootninja> GSF: and you're sure that you installed the ssh client not the server?
[08:47] <maginot> []zombie, what did you done so far to guarantee that your problem is not any connection or service not be running problem? Please do some tests
[08:47] <GSF1200S> i have both installed bootninja
[08:47] <costre> theadmin, That explains it
[08:47] <johntramp> maginot: http://pastebin.com/4iub1TK5
[08:47] <[]zombie> i just ran tcpcump, maginot
[08:47] <johntramp> dmesg looks okay to me
[08:47] <[]zombie> server can see my laptop trying to connect
[08:48] <bootninja> GSF: then the problem is probably path related
[08:48] <maginot> johntramp, if any one told you you had something inside it its lying or you removed, you have no partitions inside the device as fdisk just told you
[08:48] <bootninja> GSF what happens when you just type in ssh?
[08:48] <johntramp> maginot: what does #
[08:48] <johntramp>  sdg: [mac] sdg1 sdg2 sdg3 sdg4 sdg5 sdg6
[08:48] <johntramp>  mean
[08:49] <GSF1200S> bootninja, if I do sudo ssh user@host, it says not command not found.. if I log in as root and then execute ssh user@server, it says permission denied
[08:49] <bootninja> john: sdg is the hard drive you are trying to copy off.  sdg 1-n are the partitions on that drive
[08:49] <maginot> []zombie, tcpdump doesn't work for your problem, you have to check if the service is running, if you can reach the server and if the port you are trying to use is rightm, them check you firewall to see if something is being blocked
[08:49] <johntramp> maginot: yeah i realise taht
[08:49] <johntramp> maginot: but why does dmesg say sdg1-6 but fdisk has nothing
[08:50] <[]zombie> maginot: thanks, i'll check those things and get back to you
[08:50] <maginot> johntramp, to guarantee you have nothing inside, just run fdisk /dev/sdg (as root, is what # means)
[08:50] <johntramp> i am
[08:51] <theadmin> How to prevent Ubuntu from automounting /dev/sdb1?
[08:51] <maginot> johntramp, p will show the partition table for you
[08:51] <chelz> theadmin: edit /etc/fstab
[08:51] <chelz> !fstab | theadmin
[08:51] <theadmin> chelz: Huh. Just in case, it's a removable device. Will it still work?
[08:51] <al1as> hey guys
[08:52] <maginot> johntramp, I supposed this is an external HD of 1TB, right?
[08:52] <chelz> theadmin: oh, to prevent that fstab won't work
[08:52] <GSF1200S> bootninja, any ideas? i dont know wtf.. it worked before
[08:52] <suji11> hi
[08:52] <al1as> my rtl8187se is very unstable (disconnects after 20-30 seconds)
[08:52] <chelz> theadmin: i'm not sure how to prevent removable devices from being mounted
[08:52] <al1as> what can I do about it?
[08:52] <matteo1990> Hi all , i have an "ATI rage 128" on an old PC and uf i try to enable desktop effects it searchs for avaible drivers without finding anything. When i movee a window it takes lots of time... ANyone knows how to find and install proper driver?
[08:52] <maginot> al1as, buy anything that is not realtek lol
[08:52] <bootninja> GSF maybe when you run as root it is trying to connect and just not letting you login?
[08:52] <suji11> my package iok was accepted in ubuntu, it is now available in packages.ubuntu.com, how to i bring that package to debian repository?
[08:53] <al1as> maginot: windows works just fine with same card
[08:53] <chelz> theadmin: can this not be done via system>preferences>removable media? just turn off the mount when inserted or hotplugs
[08:53] <al1as> maginot: I know that realtek is piace of sh*t
[08:53] <costre> matteo1990, disable all effects :) That's where you end up eventually anyway ;)
[08:53] <al1as> any other recommandations?
[08:53] <bootninja> GSF:  sorry, I don't really know what to tell you otherwise.
[08:53] <maginot> al1as, thats because of the driver, try downloading from realtek a newer driver for linux (if they have any)
[08:53] <theadmin> chelz: No "Removable media" in preferences
[08:54] <johntramp> maginot: yeah 1tb external
[08:54] <maginot> al1as, and be sure if the drive that linux is using is the right one
[08:54] <chelz> bootninja: after typing the first few letters of a nick in irc you can hit the tab button to autocomplete the name. similar to autocompletion in the terminal
[08:54] <matteo1990> costre, i can't even enable them, the problem still remains for normal windows :S
[08:54] <maginot> johntramp, this HD was used on a Macintosh ?
[08:54] <bootninja> chelz, awesome
[08:54] <GSF1200S> bootninja, thats cool.. thanks for the help
[08:54] <al1as> maginot: *trying to download new driver*
[08:54] <johntramp> yeah
[08:54] <johntramp> she uses a mac
[08:54] <costre> matteo1990, That is worse. There is a tool for downloading and configuring video drivers, cant remember the name right now :/
[08:54] <maginot> johntramp, Hmm that may be the problem, mac uses HFS+ as default fs...
[08:54] <bootninja> now if I could only figure out this sound thing.
[08:55] <chelz> theadmin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=877278
[08:55] <matteo1990> costre, is it envyng?
[08:55] <al1as> maginot: there is no driver in off site
[08:55] <costre> matteo1990, That's the one . no luck?
[08:55] <chelz> theadmin: also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13692
[08:56] <costre> matteo1990, Haven't had use for it for a year ....
[08:56] <bootninja> is compiling a new kernel for ubuntu as much a headache as it used to be in binary distros?
[08:56] <maginot> johntramp, did you ran #fdisk /dev/sdg and typed "p" to list the partitions of the disk?
[08:56] <chelz> theadmin: somewhere in preferences there should be a place for configuring Removable Media
[08:56] <aric98532> howdy all
[08:56] <maginot> al1as, sorry don't get what you said
[08:56] <aric98532> i have a quick question?
[08:56] <maginot> so do it
[08:56] <maginot> =)
[08:56] <al1as> maginot: I can't find linux driver on realtek site
[08:57] <fale> hello
[08:57] <aric98532> does anyone in here know about a recent update to either xorg or ubuntu karmic that is causing HDMI issues?
[08:57] <chelz> bootninja: not if you use the source from ubuntu. if you use source from kernel.org then it is just as tricky. scan over this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[08:57] <johntramp> maginot: no just fdisk -l /dev/sdg
[08:57] <luis_> helouuu
[08:57] <maginot> johntramp, no, fdisk /dev/sdg , them type "p" to print the partition table, to exit just type "q"
[08:57] <johntramp> maginot: doing it that way doesn't make a difference, still nothing shows
[08:57] <matteo1990> Hi all , i have an "ATI rage 128" on an old PC and uf i try to enable desktop effects it searchs for avaible drivers without finding anything. When i movee a window it takes lots of time... ANyone knows how to find and install proper driver?
[08:58] <sYskk> how do I install mod_rewrite for apache ? i have the following line in httpd.conf and it wont work: LoadModule rewrite_module modules/mod_rewrite.so
[08:58] <costre> matteo1990, No luck with envy then?
[08:58] <aric98532> a rage 128? gonna be hard or impossible to find drivers for that anywhere
[08:58] <aric98532> envy may do it, but thats an old card
[08:58] <maginot> johntramp, try cfdisk /dev/sdg to see if you get any output
[08:59] <luis_> hay alguien ke kiera chat
[08:59] <maginot> luis_, #ubuntu-es
[08:59] <chelz> !es | luis_
[08:59] <johntramp> maginot: that is also the same
[08:59] <TPS> Is there a release date for Lynx ?
[09:00] <chelz> sYskk: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/misc/rewriteguide.html and http://www.yourhtmlsource.com/sitemanagement/urlrewriting.html
[09:00] <maginot> johntramp, I'm pretty sure that cfdisk could show any HFS+ partition even if you can't access them, just a sec, let me confirm
[09:01] <rww> !schedule-#ubuntu+1 | TPS
[09:01] <TPS> Thanks
[09:01] <rww> TPS: further Lucid/10.04 questions go in #ubuntu+1, not here, btw :)
[09:02] <TPS> Also thanks
[09:02] <matteo1990> costre, no suitable driver for my card :S
[09:02] <sYskk> chelz: i know how mod_rewrite work, but i cant install it :/
[09:02] <aric98532> hmm, nobody seems to know whats going on with HDMI output on forums or in here - its just that a lot of people, myself included, in the last 4-5 days have suddenly had HDMI out mysteriously stop working and have been unable to detect the previously fine HDMI displays in Xserver
[09:03] <sa1> how can i run graphics prog in ubuntu
[09:03] <[]zombie> maginot: ipblock was blocking my laptop!  dunno why it just started doing that in the past week after working fine for months :P ... anyway thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
[09:03] <mawst> sa1: Gimp
[09:03] <mawst> sa1: Inkscape
[09:03] <maginot> []zombie, you're welcome =)
[09:04] <al1as> maginot: I'm trying compat-wireless
[09:05] <sa1> plz help me
[09:05] <bootninja> matteo1990, it looks like the only driver for that card is the xorg r128 one, but that should allow you to enable desktop effects
[09:05] <neure> hi.. where is mini cd image for 10.04 beta 1?
[09:05] <sa1> how can i exec my graphic prog in ubuntu
[09:06] <iceroot> neure: #ubuntu+1
[09:06] <mawst> !gimp | sa1
[09:07] <maginot> johntramp, looking to my setup here, ubuntu doesn't seen to support hfs+ partitions, but like I can't do any test here ( I don't have a mac) you can try in the console: #mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdg1 /mnt    you may try from sdg1 to sdg6 like showed in dmesg
[09:08] <johntramp> meatbun: yeah i have tried that and it gave me mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdg1
[09:08] <maginot> johntramp, if work, no error will be displayed and inside /mnt will be the content of the HD
[09:08] <bootninja> meh.  I'm not going to go to the trouble to compile the latest kernel just to get my headphones working.  I suppose I can do without them for now.  maybe I can even try one of them new fangled usb headphones
[09:08] <johntramp> i will probably just leave it and ask her if i can format the drive, otherwise just not bother with it
[09:08] <johntramp> thanks for your time maginot, much appreciated
[09:08] <bootninja> maginot, thanks for your help earlier
[09:09] <maginot> bootninja, well, I had some issues with my HDA intel in the past too.. only when I made a fresh install of ubuntu the problem was gone...
[09:10] <dioel> Hi. can someone tellme how i can check the brand for my video card??
[09:10] <dioel> ??
[09:10] <pupuser10fee6> hahaha
[09:10] <bootninja> maginot, which version you running?
[09:10] <pupuser10fee6> video cards = ati or nvidia
[09:10] <gottto> dioel: in terminal   lspci
[09:11] <maginot> johntramp, yeah, is supposed the easier thing you could try, after that to get the proper support you could recompiled the kernel, thats guaranteed to work since it has HFS+ support there
[09:11] <dioel> ok thanks
[09:11] <maginot> bootninja, 9.10
[09:12] <bootninja> maginot, what make is your computer?
[09:12] <meatbun> johntramp: ok that's nice
[09:12] <maginot> johntramp, this may be interesting to you: http://superuser.com/questions/84446/how-to-mount-a-hfs-partition-in-ubuntu-as-read-write
[09:13] <aboeing> hi, i am having trouble removing a route, I keep getting a 'no such process' error message: route del 169.254.0.0
[09:13] <aboeing> SIOCDELRT: No such process
[09:13] <aboeing> does anyone know what I am doing wrong?
[09:13] <maginot> aboeing, route del 169.254.0.0 gw 0.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0
[09:14] <aboeing> route: netmask 0000ffff doesn't make sense with host route
[09:14] <bootninja> maybe when I get home I can boot the lucid live environment off my usb stick and see if I still have the headphone problem.
[09:15] <maginot> aboeing, route del 169.254.0.0  netmask 255.255.0.0 try this
[09:15] <aboeing> route del 169.254.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0
[09:15] <aboeing> route: netmask 0000ffff doesn't make sense with host route
[09:15] <maginot> aboeing, well, Im more used to ip route, so ip route del 169.254.0.0/16 will work
[09:15] <unop> aboeing, what's the route as per 'route -n' ?
[09:16] <maginot> unop, he is just trying to remove a non valid ip from its routing table
[09:16] <matteo1990> here is my xorg.log, anyone can say me if i have already the proper driver? max resoultion is 800x600 and if i try to enable desktop effects i get "no suitable driver", all the whole desktop is laggy http://paste.ubuntu.com/406924/
[09:17] <meco> I'm having a lingering problem setting the clock right. I believe this is a GNOME issue, but does anyone here have any suggestions for troubleshooting?
[09:17] <maginot> bootninja, this is what my lsmod shows related to hda http://maginot.pastebin.com/GxLLEhjF
[09:17] <matteo1990> bootninja, i have just posted my xorg log, take a look plz :D
[09:17] <aboeing> maginot: thanks, that worked. if you remember my earlier problem (can't ping google) then this is the output you requested: http://paste.ubuntu.com/406926/
[09:17] <bootninja> matteo1990,  reading it now.
[09:18] <aboeing> unop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/406926/ has the output of ip route show, which has now had that route removed
[09:18] <maginot> aboeing, I think there are some conspiracy with this box... everything is right, like it should... this ip address was gave by you network DHCP server?
[09:18] <bootninja> matteo1990, it looks like you're using the generic ati driver, when you should be using the r128 driver.
[09:19] <aboeing> maginot: haha, I agree. no, it is static IP. i actually have a nother linux box on the same network, but with DHCP - same issues!
[09:19] <bootninja> as root, you need to edit /etc/x11/xorg.conf so that the Driver	"ati"
[09:19] <bootninja>  instead reads Driver "r128"
[09:20] <maginot> aboeing, what you have on /etc/host.conf ?
[09:20] <tulsi> hi all.....i'm facing prob in ubuntu..there is no sound output frm my speakers..
[09:20] <bootninja> then kill your xserver and relog into gnome
[09:20] <sa1> plz tell me how to run C++ Graphics programs in ubuntu
[09:20] <bootninja> tulsi, if you've got the snd_hda_intel chip, then good luck, I'm having sound problems also
[09:20] <matteo1990> bootninja, ok, how to install it?
[09:20] <kubanc> tulsi, in terminal try speaker-test
[09:21] <aboeing> order hosts,bind
[09:21] <aboeing> multi on
[09:21] <bootninja> matteo1990, you shouldn't need to install anything, just edit your xorg.conf
[09:21] <maginot> aboeing, Its okay.. too! =)
[09:21] <maginot> aboeing, I suppose you are running ubuntu ?
[09:22] <aboeing> ohwell. i need to head off now anyway, thank you so much for your help maginot.
[09:22] <aboeing> maginot: uname -a
[09:22] <aboeing> Linux oddity 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 17:53:40 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:22] <purplebluesilver> so according to someone "I have kernel panic". What's that?  [[How do I know? He said if it freezes and cntl-SysRq+REISUB does not get a reboot then I do.]]   OK tell me something I can deal with please.
[09:22] <bootninja> matteo1990, if there's a gui way to change your xorg driver, I'm afraid I don't know it
[09:22] <aboeing> cya
[09:23] <matteo1990> bootninja, no problem, what is the path of xorg.conf?
[09:23] <bootninja> /etc/x11/xorg.conf, probably
[09:23] <maginot> purplebluesilver, your capslock light will keep blinking
[09:23] <bootninja> if not, then try locate xorg.conf
[09:23] <costre> I just realized my pulse audio output comes with a faint highpitch hiss .. I recognized it when I switched to alsa (thus losing surroud sound) in mplayer. So the choice is : Hissing, or no surround ..? :)
[09:23] <Siegfried> any torrent client supporting socks for all traffic?
[09:24] <purplebluesilver> nope, that doesnt happen.  (((oh the joys of inconsistent but sincere help here))  It's bee  over a week working at this problem.
[09:24] <chelz> Siegfried: azureus
[09:24] <Siegfried> chelz, thanks! only that one?
[09:24] <Siegfried> i saw transmission only uses socks to connect to the tracker, such a shame :(
[09:24] <bootninja> purplebluesilver, at least we're free.  you'd get the same inconsistent help from the folks at microsoft or dell and you'd have to pay for the privilege :)
[09:24] <matteo1990> bootninja, i am on ubuntu 9.10 non xorg. conf under /etc/X11 O.o
[09:25] <maginot> purplebluesilver, you didn't tell us what problem you are having ... I just told you what happen when you have a kernel panic =P
[09:25] <EdgEy> Is there any way to somehow throttle copying / extracting files?
[09:25] <bootninja> matteo1990, go to terminal and type locate xorg.conf
[09:25] <EdgEy> My whole system slows to a crawl, apps I already have open stop responding etc
[09:25] <Saturn2888> Hi, how do I check the current network speed in Ubuntu Server 8.04.4?
[09:25] <jodge> hi plp
[09:25] <chelz> Siegfried: i know that one does for sure. you might try looking for top linux torrent clients then checking one by one which does what you want
[09:25] <maginot> matteo1990, xorg doesn't need anymore xorg.conf, only if you have any specific configuration
[09:25] <maginot> bootninja, ^
[09:26] <elvis321> hi, i have a iptables script that looks like this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/qmeU2X0K i would like to block tcp ports 6881-6999. Please can someone help?
[09:26] <bootninja> maginot, I told him to edit xorg.conf because is using the wrong xorg driver
[09:26] <KayAteChef> EdgEy: that seems like a good question for ##Linux
[09:26] <Fill23> how to customize firefox icons? 'Back', 'Home', 'Refresh' etc
[09:26] <maginot> X -configure will make a fresh xorg.conf file and tell anything in the screen you may need
[09:26] <jodge> i have ubuntu 64x bits and i need flash player for watch video on youtube can i get help?
[09:26] <chelz> !flash | jodge
[09:26] <matteo1990> bootninja, already tried, none on 9.10 O.o
[09:27] <bootninja> hmm.... looks like the state of the art padded me by while I was in the throes of wow addiction
[09:27] <costre> jodge, It's on http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[09:27] <rww> ubottu: flash64 | jodge
[09:27] <chelz> !rar | sYskk
[09:27] <matteo1990> maginot, and how to do choose a different video driver?
[09:27] <bootninja> matteo1990, follow maginot's instructions
[09:27] <chelz> ty rww
[09:27] <jodge> oh nice thx alot
[09:28] <purplebluesilver> will memtest again
[09:28] <maginot> matteo1990, I suppose you have an ATI graphics video card, so go to ATI website and download their driver...
[09:28] <elvis321> oops want to block them for incoming on INTIF="eth1"
[09:28] <matteo1990> maginot, i get "atal server error:
[09:28] <matteo1990> Server is already active for display 0
[09:28] <matteo1990> " when i try sudo X -configure
[09:28] <wh1t3> im having some problems with dual screen on nvidia drivers on 8.10, Primary is working fine, secondary is detected, when secondary is enabled there are 'warping' diagonal bars that do seem to represent the screen. Any clues on what might be wrong?
[09:29] <pozic> Does anyone have an explanation for Java applets suddently not working on Sage-4.3.3, while they work perfectly well on any other webpage and it worked yesterday just fine?
[09:30] <maginot> matteo1990, yep, you must do that on an tty screen, no X server must be running, go to the console and type gdm-stop as root, you will go to a black screen and you must use the command there... but you configuration is wrong because you need the official drivers...
[09:30] <chelz> pozic: you could check if any updates were installed
[09:30] <pozic> chelz: how?
[09:30] <jag> hello
[09:31] <maginot> matteo1990, what video card you have? If is ATI download their official driver, works pretty good, if it is NVIDIA do the same... you will have to configure both in the tty screen AFAIK
[09:31] <Fill23> how to change firefox icons? 'Back', 'Home', 'Refresh' etc
[09:31] <jag> anybody get smbclient working between linux and windows 7 ?
[09:31] <pozic> chelz: in fact, it works even on the Sage website. It is just when I run it locally that it doesn't work.
[09:32] <chelz> pozic: > System|Administration|Synaptic Package Manager|File|History
[09:32] <chelz> pozic: you might try checking with the sage people
[09:33] <pozic> chelz: I will just reinstall Sage.
[09:33] <pozic> chelz: There are no changes since yesterday.
[09:34] <maginot> Fill23, download a theme... if you want to know how to do it manually ask on #firefox at irc.mozilla.org
[09:35] <maginot> Fill23, if you want a theme: Tools > Addons > Themes
[09:35]  * Insane_clown says hello
[09:36] <Fill23> maginot: themes don't change icons
[09:36] <Insane_clown> sup?
[09:36] <maginot> Fill23, says who ?
[09:36] <Saturn2888> no one?
[09:36] <chelz> !hi | Insane_clown
[09:36] <Fill23> maginot: i am saying, after installing three of them
[09:36] <matteo1990> maginot, i have an ATI rage 128. It seems that it should work out of the box with r128 xorg driver. But i have installed the generic ati driver, here is my xorg log http://paste.ubuntu.com/406924/ I have launched Xorg - configure, how can it help? (i have a xorg file in my home nw)
[09:36] <danx> How does Ubuntu's runlevel works? apparently runlevel 2 = init 5?
[09:37] <chelz> !runlevels | danx
[09:37] <Fill23> maginot: besides i don't some theme, i like default one, it's jst icons in linux version of firefox kinda suck
[09:38] <danx> chelz: so what runlevel gives me multi-user support but no X server? 1?
[09:38] <maginot> matteo1990, open the xorg.conf file that is in you home directory, see if it has any Section "Device" and change Driver	"ati" to Driver	"r128" if you preffer using that
[09:38] <Saturn2888> I figured it out. ethtool., ok thanks
[09:38] <chelz> danx: i am not sure
[09:38] <maginot> Fill23, I really don't know how to change them manually, maybe try #firefox here or in the irc.mozilla.org network
[09:38] <chelz> danx: http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html
[09:38] <ESoft> hi all
[09:38] <Fill23> maginot: ok thx
[09:39] <mouse_> I play a lot of commertial games and it's my understanding that one reason games are not usually ported to linux because of direct x.  Would WINE be more compatible with these commertial games if direct x was installed into it?
[09:39] <danx> chelz: what confuses me the most is I see all rc.d's
[09:39] <duckwars> I can't for the life of me make my headless ubuntu box a VLC server.
[09:39] <chelz> danx: since 1 is single user, and since all levels are the same other than those, it probably doesn't matter
[09:39] <Insane_clown> do eny one now eny good chat server im soo bored
[09:39] <chelz> duckwars: you have to EARN it
[09:39] <maginot> mouse_, thats not a direct x problem only, you have to port many other things, programming on linux is different them windows
[09:39] <chelz> !ot | Insane_clown
[09:39] <duckwars> =(
[09:40] <jag> Fill23_: i have seen a plugin before for firefox that allows to change etc ... under addons ..
[09:40] <dioel> got a problem with ma sis graphic card
[09:40] <Insane_clown> ok tnx
[09:40] <maginot> mouse_, about wine is better ask on #winehq
[09:40] <dioel> colors doesnt look good
[09:40] <duckwars> if I want to use HTTP steraming with VLC does that mean I have to have an apache2 server going?
[09:40] <mouse_> maginot, okay thank you.
[09:42] <dioel> my sis graphic card do not work right
[09:42] <gottto> dioel: do you know what card?
[09:42] <dioel> take a look
[09:42] <Kartagis> I'm using thunderbird 3.0.3 and I set up a news server. however it says xxx:563 uses an invalid security certificate. all the settings are right. what can I do now?
[09:42] <dioel> Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[09:42] <danx> chelz: yes... I see in the link you gave me that rc2.d == 3,4,5... so I guess I'll have to edit rc2 manually... it's really weird how debian/ubuntu work in this matter, thanks for the help
[09:43] <dioel> gottto: u know what could be?
[09:43] <maginot> dioel, are you sure its the video card problem and not some display configuration ?
[09:43] <chelz> danx: well probably don't edit 2. edit one that the system doesn't rely on. unless you plan to primarily use your own runlevel
[09:43] <dioel> well..
[09:43] <rob_p_> danx: If you don't want X, simply disable it for the runlevel of interest.  You can use the update-rc.d utility instead of manually editing the symlinks.
[09:43] <EdgEy> Is there a way to stop windows from being dragged outside of the screen?
[09:43] <gottto> dioel: and what driver shows up in   /var/log/Xorg.0.log   ?
[09:43] <linxeh> danx: what os is this ?
[09:43] <dioel> i notice that i dont have an .xorg file
[09:43] <duckwars> please, does anyone know any good howto's on how to get a VLC going?
[09:43] <dioel> let me check
[09:44] <chelz> duckwars: http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/ch02.html
[09:44] <iceroot> dioel: sudo apt-get install vlc
[09:44] <pog> can I open a file like under ubuntu linux : website-8a.webarchive: Apple binary property list (when I look at the file, it seems a binary)
[09:44] <dioel> vlc?
[09:44] <maginot> duckwars, are you using ubuntu ? Just apt-get install vlc should do the trick
[09:44] <danx> linxeh: there is no need to act/be a smartass, I've edited inittab files in other distros, I hadn't need to do it in Ubuntu until today. rob_p_ thanks, I'll try that
[09:45] <duckwars> maginot: yea I already did that, but that just installed it, it doesn't make it serve up content or install a daemon... does it?
[09:45] <gottto> !paste | dioel can you paste the log
[09:45] <maginot> dioel, Xorg now by default don't come with a xorg.conf
[09:45] <duckwars> chelz: That shows how to do through gui, and I tried to read how to do it through the command line, but taht section was too technical for me
[09:45] <iceroot> !vlc | dioel
[09:45] <linxeh> danx: wtf?
[09:45] <rob_p_> danx: sudo update-rc.d -f remove <service>
[09:45] <dioel> ok
[09:45] <chelz> duckwars: you could try learning by doing :)
[09:46] <maginot> duckwars, well, this kind of question must be done on #videolan
[09:46] <linxeh> danx: I seriously wondered if you were using another distro, and was about to suggest using the update-rc.d script (but someone got there first).
[09:46] <danx> rob_p_: reading the manual, thanks again for the hint
[09:46] <linxeh> danx: enjoy ubuntu. sheesh
[09:46] <rob_p_> danx: welcome
[09:46] <duckwars> chelz: I was hoping you guys could help me do, so I could learn
[09:47] <ManDay> Wow, no one s talking in #ubuntu!
[09:47] <ManDay> Thats good so more people can read my question :)
[09:48] <dioel> gotto:
[09:48] <maginot> ManDay, many people are talking here, just now exactly right now =P
[09:48] <dioel> heres the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/406937/
[09:48] <ManDay> maginot, usually i get the first line of chat before chanserv greets me :P
[09:49] <guntbert> ManDay: please come to the point :-)
[09:49] <hihihi100> i need help regarding SCIM
[09:49] <hihihi100> hi there
[09:49] <maginot> dioel, your X11 is already using sis driver, if you need better support you will have to use their official driver, but I will warn you, its a pain to install it
[09:49] <MobiusJedi> hello penguins, i am confused. I can hear my guitar through my sound card, but I can't seem to record it
[09:50] <dioel> the problem is that the colors of the screen doesnt look rigth
[09:50] <ManDay> Is there any substancial difference between presing the power-button and executing the according operation from the menu? I'm asking because ONLY if I hibernate by pressing the button nm-applet requires re-authorization for the default keyring - otherwise it doesnt .... AT GUNBERT!
[09:50] <dioel> i just migrated from windows
[09:50] <ManDay> ...
[09:50] <dioel> n i got this issue
[09:50] <gottto> dioel: looks like it is using the right driver - I'll google
[09:50] <maginot> dioel, it really looks like a display problem problem, but, if you think your driver isn't working, use the one provided by sis
[09:50] <ManDay> guntbert that is, sorry
[09:51] <dioel> sis dont have a linux suport for this one
[09:51] <dioel> i searched but dont found
[09:51] <ManDay> sis - they still exist?
[09:51] <ManDay> :D
[09:51] <dioel> yea men Xd
[09:51] <maginot> ManDay, yes, there is. The powerbutton on the box make an acpi call direct
[09:51] <guntbert> ManDay: in my experience  those events invoke different handlers - though I have no idea which and why
[09:52] <vak> hi all
[09:52] <matteo1990> maginot, it seems that i have already r128... If i run glxinfo i can see that i have acceleration. I can't still enable desktop effects adn the whole thing is a bit laggy.
[09:52] <ManDay> maginot sounds like a thorough answer to start from. any idea what might cause this "problem" to happen? any way to associate the pwer button with a "non.direct" acpi call?
[09:52] <dioel> gottto: can i send u a pic, for you to view my problem??
[09:53] <maginot> matteo1990, your default driver that is being used is ati, not r128, its on you logs...
[09:53] <maginot> matteo1990, pastebin the xorg.conf generated but X -configure
[09:53] <ManDay> guntbert, yeah it feels like the keyring / nm-applet isnt properly informed about the hibernation process so authz get messed up
[09:53] <vak> Q: cp is single-threaded and single-processed, correct?
[09:54] <gottto> dioel: don't bother - lots have that prob - sis graphics aren't good
[09:54] <ManDay> :D
[09:54] <ManDay> silicon systems that was, wasnt it? :>
[09:54] <guntbert> ManDay: on the other hand - suspend from the menu and closing the lid  usually do the same -- here at last
[09:54] <vak> Q: Is there any easy way to copy files in multithread/multiproecssed?
[09:54] <dioel> gottto: so what can i do?
[09:55] <ManDay> man the last time i had an SIS was a IG chip on a '98 laptop
[09:55] <gottto> dioel: one min - checking that out
[09:55] <dioel> ok
[09:55] <ManDay> guntbert, "do the same" in terms of what happens or of how exactly it happens - because for me i think the issues is how exactly the calls get made as maginot pointed out
[09:56] <hihihi100> may be off topic... how do I get a list of all smuxi avaivlabe freenode channels?
[09:56] <matteo1990> maginot, http://pastebin.com/KeDaBsbz thats the file named xorg.conf.new appeared in my home after the xorg -configure
[09:56] <ja660k> how can i get pigin to record chat logs, preferable with a date/timestamp for each message???
[09:56] <psycho_oreos> hihihi100, /msg alis help list
[09:57] <knoppix> hi
[09:57] <guntbert> ManDay: I never investigated - only found out that it seems not to matter if I close the lid or select "suspend" - but you will have to ask the channel again for details - in this regard I'm only a consumer
[09:57] <maginot> dioel, is an pcie or pci board?
[09:57] <hihihi100> ok
[09:57] <hihihi100> thx
[09:57] <ManDay> guntbert, i can only say that the action which occurs if you close the lid is configurable in the pm
[09:58] <dioel> maginot: i cant tell.. I have an acer aspire 5000 if that helps
[09:58] <maginot> matteo1990, your problem was not being able to set the resolution more them 800x600 right?
[09:58] <unop> ja660k,  tools -> preferences -> logging  .. to view them, open up a contact and then  Conversation -> view log
[09:58] <maginot> dioel, well, I can't tell you too ;)
[09:58] <guntbert> ManDay: yeah - but if the menu calls exactly the same... ?
[09:58] <gottto> dioel: what resolution are you running at? - 1280x1024 or similar?
[09:58] <matteo1990> maginot, and the whole laggy thing (i have a 128 MB card)
[09:59] <maginot> dioel, your lspci show to possible kind of cards
[09:59] <ja660k> unop, are they saved to file, i need to go through a text file and extract dates for my Perl assignment
[09:59] <ManDay> guntbert, thats what maginot said, the calls to the acpi might be different at the end
[09:59] <unop> ja660k, yes, they are saved in ~/.purple/  somewhere - shouldn't be hard to find.
[09:59] <ja660k> unop, thanks :)
[09:59] <guntbert> ManDay: and that is more than I "know" about that - please ask the channel again
[10:00] <unop> ja660k, ~/.purple/log/$PROTOCOL/$USERNAME
[10:00] <dioel> gottto: im using an 1280x800
[10:00] <ja660k> unop :)
[10:00] <ManDay> can only reask: Does anyone know how to make pressing the power button behave EXACTLY the same as selecting "hibernate" from the menu??
[10:01] <gottto> dioel: it will work better at 1024xsomething or use the vesa driver - that's the advice on yhe net
[10:01] <dioel> maginot: VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[10:01] <gottto> *the
[10:01] <indus> ManDay, from bios , you can set sleep not hibernate though
[10:01] <matteo1990> maginot, Ideas? In the file there is "Driver "r128""
[10:01] <maginot> dioel, just like what I said
[10:01] <dioel> gottto: who i get the vesa driver??
[10:01] <maginot> matteo1990, yeah, just preparing it to you
[10:02] <ManDay> indus, what d you say?
[10:02] <dioel> maginot: ?
[10:02] <indus> ManDay, in bios you can configure how power button works
[10:02] <maginot> dioel, your lspci show tWo possible kind of cards
[10:02] <maginot> I had a typo =X
[10:02] <indus> ManDay, shutdown or sleep depending on bios
[10:02] <gottto> dioel: you have it - you need to make a xorg.conf file and list that as the driver
[10:02] <indus> hibernate iam not ssure
[10:03] <ManDay> indus, ok than i take it the PM-settings change the bios flag through the ACPI, that doesnt appear to be suficient tho. If it's true what you say then I want to know :
[10:03] <ManDay> How to override the BIOS determined behaviour of the power button
[10:03] <ManDay> (custom procedure, so to say)
[10:03] <indus> ManDay, bios itself gives you options
[10:04] <indus> ManDay, sleep or shutdown etc
[10:04] <indus> ManDay, check in bios
[10:05] <sYskk> i need to recompile php with the mcrypt module... does anyone know how to do that
[10:05] <lauriya> olaaa
[10:05] <sYskk> and is there a way to know what was my previous compile settings
[10:05] <dioel> gottto: it itsnt the resolution.. how do i make an xorg file?
[10:05] <lauriya> wenos  dias
[10:06] <lauriya> olaa
[10:06] <ManDay> indus, there is no "custom action" tho. I'm really not an expert at ACPI but it appears that if I press the PB the acpi sends an interrupt to the kernel which then RECKLESSLY hibernates - as opoosed to choosing "Hibernate" from the menu which softly instructs all programs to terminate correclty -> default-keyring DOESNT break!
[10:06] <maginot> dioel, X -configure
[10:06] <gottto> dioel: in terminal    Xorg -configure
[10:06] <lauriya> decid   algo
[10:06] <indus> ManDay, hmm no idea about that
[10:06] <sunson> I have a bunch of packages that provide some metadata and configs. There is also a tool (part of another pkg) that can process these files.
[10:06] <indus> ManDay, iam a noob
[10:06] <sunson>                 depend on the pkg that provides the tool?)? Any other more elegant or The-Debian-Way of doing the same?
[10:06] <ManDay> indus, Ill ask in #linux
[10:06] <sunson>                 What is the way to make the metadata packages run the tool upon install? Do I merely make a call to the tool from the postinst script (and
[10:06] <hotxboy1S> anyone knows about dummykey?
[10:07] <hotxboy1S> acpid?
[10:07] <indus> ManDay, maybe #kernel too
[10:07] <dioel> gottto, maginot: it shows an error
[10:07] <indus> ManDay, ubuntu kernel rather #ubuntu-kernel
[10:07] <lauriya> olaaaaaa
[10:07] <lauriya> bugz
[10:07] <gottto> dioel: tell us more :)
[10:08] <cermin> hi everyone
[10:08] <hotxboy1S> What could be the cause of no FN control brightness on Ubuntu?
[10:08] <gottto> dioel:  you need to not have X running
[10:08] <dioel> it says that the server is already active for display 0
[10:08] <matteo1990> maginot, still here? :)
[10:08] <gottto> should have said that...
[10:08] <dioel> lauriya este server es en ingles
[10:08] <cermin> is this ubuntu server?
[10:08] <maginot> matteo1990, try http://pastebin.com/fXqZWZ24 and see if anything get changed
[10:08] <dioel> debes ir a uno en español
[10:09] <bazhang> !es
[10:09] <dioel> gottto:  it says that the server is already active for display 0
[10:09] <maginot> dioel, you have to stop the X to do that... gdm-stop normally do the tricky
[10:09] <dioel> ok..
[10:10] <dioel> maginot: stop it from the terminal?
[10:10] <maginot> dioel, yep, as root
[10:11] <gottto> dioel:  you need to logout - hit ctrl+alt+f2 - login and type sudo /etcinit.d/gdm stop - run that command Xorg -configure - type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start and hit alt+f7
[10:11] <puff> Hm.  I have a laptop running 8.10, with a 60 GB hard drive.  10 GB is my /home partition, 5 GB is the rest of /, and I have a 38 GB "bulk" partition for crap like mp3s, etc, stuff I can re-rip from original media.
[10:11] <maginot> gottto, actually if he is using ubuntu 9.10 there is no gdm stop, only gdm-stop
[10:11] <puff> I have a USB enclosure with about 80 GB free, formatted NTFS.
[10:12] <elvis321> i have a iptables script that looks like this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/qmeU2X0K i would like to block tcp ports 6881-6999 on INTIF="eth1". Please can someone help?
[10:12] <gottto> maginot: ok - thnx :)
[10:12] <puff> How do I a) back up my laptop drive, b) resize the partitions to make / about 10 GB, c) restore from backups if necessary, d) upgrade to karmi?
[10:13] <marvelousbob__> Is there a parallel equivalent of stty for configuring baud rates etc?
[10:13] <maginot> matteo1990, ?
[10:14] <matteo1990> maginot, just changed the file
[10:14] <dioel> gottto: it doest work
[10:14] <matteo1990> maginot, now gdm stop and start again?
[10:14] <maginot> matteo1990, yep
[10:14] <dioel> maginot: doesnt work
[10:14] <maginot> dioel, what doesn't work ?
[10:15] <dioel> i use x -configure as root
[10:15] <gottto> dioel: did it make a file or...
[10:15] <maginot> dioel, X not x
[10:15] <dioel> ok
[10:15] <dioel> i also do Xorg -configure
[10:15] <dioel> it told me that a new .xorg file was new
[10:16] <matteo1990> maginot, sudo gdm stop--->failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager
[10:16] <Hund> I have a printer connected to my server, Im sharing it over the network, and I can find it on my client but when I try to add it I get this message "client-error-forbidden". What to do?
[10:16] <maginot> matteo1990, ubuntu 9.10 ? them gdm-stop
[10:16] <gottto> dioel: so it made a file - great - now you edit it for the vesa driver
[10:17] <dioel> gottto: ok. but how?
[10:17] <maginot> dioel, actually the recommend way of creating a new xorg file on ubuntu is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" at least used to be... but X -configure do the tricky too
[10:17] <matteo1990> maginot, restarting
[10:17] <maginot> matteo1990, work too ;D
[10:18] <pablo_> Hi
[10:18] <gottto> dioel: the file will be in your home dir or the root dir like where /boot is - find it then the next step
[10:18] <dioel> gottto: is on my home dir
[10:19] <gottto> maginot: I didn't think the dpkg-reconfigure bit worked anymore
[10:19] <dioel> gottto: the file is named xorg.conf.new
[10:19] <gottto> dioel: open and and find the part where it says your card
[10:19] <maginot> gottto, hmm yeah, I'm not updated if this is the way of doing know, used to be on ubuntu 8
[10:20] <maginot> *know/now
[10:20] <theadmin> How to report spammers on freenode?
[10:20] <bazhang> theadmin, on channel #freenode
[10:20] <matteo1990> maginot, there is something wrong because i have now realized that i pasted in the file also the line numbers of the pastebin but nothing changed XD It shouldn't start :P Maybe changing /home/user/xorg.conf.new doesn't work. possible?
[10:21] <dioel> gottto: ok, it is place on vendor name and boardName
[10:21] <gottto> dioel: under there a line starts   driver   and has   sis   written there yes?
[10:21] <maginot> matteo1990, you must place xorg.conf.new inside /etc/X11 as xorg.conf, the result will be: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:22] <theadmin> bazhang: Thanks
[10:22] <matteo1990> maginot, ah ok i am lucky btw XD
[10:23] <dioel> gottto: yes, over that...
[10:23] <gottto> dioel: remove   sis   and type   vesa
[10:23] <theadmin> xorg.conf does not exist on this machine, is this normal?
[10:24] <gottto> theadmin: that's the default now
[10:24] <matteo1990> maginot, should i chmod xorg.conf?
[10:24] <gottto> theadmin: you can make one
[10:24] <matteo1990> maginot, now is root
[10:24] <theadmin> gottto: Hm, and where does X store settings then? :/
[10:24] <gottto> theadmin: if you read the log it makes it on the fly
[10:25] <dioel> gottto: done, n now??
[10:25] <gottto> dioel: save and close the file
[10:25] <dioel> gottto: done
[10:26] <gottto> dioel: in terminal   sudo cp -v ./xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:26] <mouse> How do I disable the touchpad and enable a ps/2 mouse on my laptop?
[10:26] <costre> do you have a ps2 input?
[10:27] <theadmin> mouse: Check out system -> preferences -> mouse
[10:27] <lurditas> hola
[10:27] <dioel> gottto: ok, i put it just like that
[10:27] <matteo1990> maginot, ok, when i try to restart it i get WARNING: Unable to find users: no seat-id found, WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted for 0.30 seconds (4 times) and then maximum number of X display failures reached
[10:27] <gottto> dioel: just like that
[10:27] <theadmin> ubottu: es | lurditas
[10:27] <mouse> theadmin, I've already looked there.  No luck.
[10:28] <mouse> costre, I have a ps/2 to usb converter for the mouse.
[10:28] <gottto> dioel: then logout and back in
[10:28] <dioel> gottto: ok, it creates a copy on the X11 dir
[10:28] <dioel> gottto: ok
[10:28] <gottto> dioel: luck
[10:28] <costre> mouse, Then you should be able to just connect it, in my experience
[10:28] <mouse> costre, It's not working.
[10:29] <hotxboy1S> -laptop:~# cat '/proc/acpi/video/GFX0/DD03/brightness'
[10:29] <hotxboy1S> levels:  13 25 38 50 63 75 88 100
[10:29] <hotxboy1S> current: 63
[10:29] <costre> mouse, And disable the pad in preferences, if there's no switch on the laptop of course
[10:29] <lurditas> a ok y yo tambien chao
[10:29] <maginot> matteo1990, #chown root.root /etc/X11/xorg.conf && chmod 644 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:29] <lurditas> sois super aburridos
[10:29] <costre> mouse, Have you tried with a bonafide USBmouse? :)
[10:29] <maginot> matteo1990, after that try starting gdm again
[10:29] <hotxboy1S>  I can only echo to adjust brightness how to fix this?
[10:29] <gottto> !es | lurditas
[10:30] <dioel> gottto: done.. now i got i little resolution problem.. but i think i have it.. thanx
[10:30] <gottto> dioel: np :)
[10:30] <hotxboy1S> anyone here succeed fix the FN brightness function?
[10:30] <mouse> costre, Not yet.  I don't think I'm ready to drop that much money on it.  A cheap usb mouse is $20 while the converter is $3.
[10:30] <hotxboy1S> Yo
[10:30] <maginot> hotxboy1S, never had problem with that here
[10:31] <hotxboy1S> any developer here?
[10:31] <costre> mouse you don't have any lying around? :p
[10:31] <mouse> costre, Surprisingly no.  I have like 6 mice but they're all ps/2.
[10:31] <hotxboy1S> device_id:    0x0003
[10:31] <hotxboy1S> type:         UNKNOWN
[10:31] <hotxboy1S> known by bios: no
[10:31] <hotxboy1S> ?
[10:32] <costre> mouse I'm sorry .. I jsut realized al my experience with adapters go the other way ... making a usbmouse ps2 :)
[10:33] <maginot> mouse, do you want to disable forever or just when you are inside gnome ?
[10:34] <gnaruag> hello
[10:34] <mouse> maginot, not forever.  I would like to be able to re-enable the touchpad if I need to.
[10:34] <maginot> mouse, inside gnome you can disable touchpad in: System > Preferences > Mouse > Touchpad (tab) and there is an option there to disable
[10:34] <gnaruag> i want to know Is 32 bit OS is better than 64 bit OS for hosting website
[10:35] <erUSUL> gnaruag: i would go with 64 bits for a server
[10:35] <mouse> maginot, just a second.
[10:35] <maginot> gnaruag, that depends, will you applications to be 64bit? If not so there is no difference beside the headache
[10:36] <matteo1990> maginot, it already was 644! Why it fails to load that file?
[10:36] <dioel> gottto: now i have to edit the .xorg file and input my own resolutions but i dont know where to put it...
[10:37] <visof> i added freebsd that i installed before ubuntu to custom entry but when i choose it i got error: only ELF kernel support module
[10:37] <maginot> matteo1990, pastebin the output of ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:37] <visof> i don't know what that mean ?
[10:38] <matteo1990> maginot, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3334 2010-03-31 11::33 xorg.conf
[10:38] <gottto> dioel: paste the xorg .conf and tell me your new resolution
[10:38] <mouse> maginot, all that's in the touchpad for disabling is disable touchpad while typing and disable scrolling.
[10:38] <maginot> matteo1990, and gdm doesn't start?
[10:38] <mouse> touchpad tab*
[10:38] <dioel> gottto: the one i want, rigth?
[10:39] <gottto> dioel: yep
[10:39] <matteo1990> maginot, i get  WARNING: Unable to find users: no seat-id found, WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted for 0.30 seconds (4 times) and then maximum number of X display failures reached
[10:39] <dioel> gottto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/406957/
[10:40] <maginot> visof, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/137170-solved-booting-freebsd-grub.html
[10:40] <gottto> dioel: and the res you want?
[10:40] <dioel> gottto: the one i want its an 1280x800 ?
[10:40] <gottto> k
[10:40] <sjorsr> anyone available who has some experience with preseeding ubiquity?
[10:40] <dioel> gottto: or an 1024x768
[10:41] <sjorsr> for some reason i'm not getting it to work, when ubiquity starts from the livecd it just waits at the language selection step
[10:41] <sjorsr> http://pastebin.com/LVhwQw52 is my preseed file, in case anyone can take a look at it.
[10:42] <maginot> matteo1990, did you JUST copied xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf? This problem isn't related to any kind of misscofnigure xorg.conf file
[10:42] <maginot> matteo1990, if is supposed to be a xorg.conf problem removing it from /etc/X11 would be enough to start gdm
[10:42] <Guest53051> anyone know how much it would cost to move a site shed 100km
[10:43] <Guest53051> its a 12m x 3m shed
[10:43] <matteo1990> maginot, i created a new file pasting your text. If i remove xorg it works again with past settings
[10:44] <maginot> matteo1990, try this configuration, I made this to work on "every" computer: http://maginot.pastebin.com/6f2GYRCW
[10:44] <matteo1990> maginot, that's strange, i have now tried to paste the configuration that the pc printed with Xorg -configure and i get the same error!!! ?
[10:44] <costre> guest My guess would be around $1.700
[10:45] <costre> Then again, I live in Sweden :)
[10:45] <Guest53051> is that lol
[10:45] <Guest53051> how much in aud
[10:45] <Guest53051> skippy dollars
[10:45] <costre> no idea
[10:45] <costre> google dollar :)
[10:46] <bazhang> Guest53051, take this to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:46] <Guest53051> i knew this global thingwould be a problem
[10:46] <Guest53051> bazhang,  ok
[10:46] <dioel> gottto:??
[10:46] <maginot> matteo1990, did you tried the last xorg.conf I pastebin ?
[10:46] <jhattara> are there any special characters that would get sorted before others when files are listed alphabetically with ls ?
[10:46] <gottto> dioel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/406960/ - try this
[10:47] <LucidLynx> fenre@212.33.142.220] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[10:47] <LucidLynx> 11:45 < Guest53051> skippy dollars
[10:47] <dioel> gottto: ok.. do i have tu close session??
[10:47] <gottto> dioel: copy that to your home folder and do sudo cp -v again
[10:47] <matteo1990> maginot, pasting now, aniway i think the problem is with the xorg file in himselt, with no xorg it starts good O.o
[10:48] <dioel> gottto: but i can edit the file, using sudo nautilus ...
[10:48] <dioel> gottto: cant i?
[10:49] <gottto> dioel: yep you can - it was easier for me to show than tell
[10:49] <gottto> dioel: two lines you need - default depth and modes
[10:50] <dioel> gottto: ohh.. ok i see it now..
[10:50] <gottto> dioel: lines 62 and 86 on that pastebin
[10:51] <yur4kh4> test
[10:51] <dioel> gottto: what?
[10:51] <matteo1990> maginot, the last one is starting
[10:51] <marcuz> ciao
[10:51] <s0urc3> i want good CCPOWER server
[10:51] <s0urc3> help plz
[10:51] <s0urc3> i want good CCPOWER server
[10:52] <s0urc3> i want good CCPOWER server
[10:52] <s0urc3> i want good CCPOWER server
[10:52] <FloodBot1> s0urc3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:52] <gottto> dioel: lines 62 and 86 on that pastebin are what you need to add to xorg.conf
[10:52] <dioel> oh.
[10:53] <dioel> gottto: i copy all the paste bn
[10:53] <Guest53051> skippy dollars are dollars au
[10:53] <gottto> dioel: that's fine too :)
[10:53] <dioel> ok}
[10:53] <dioel> gottto: but i have to close session??
[10:54] <wh1t3> im having some problems with dual screen on nvidia drivers on 8.10, Primary is working fine, secondary is detected, when secondary is enabled there are 'warping' diagonal bars that do seem to represent the screen. Any clues on what might be wrong?
[10:54] <matteo1990> maginot, Started :D That's good, but nothing changed XD
[10:54] <dioel> gottto: 'cause the screen preferences are still the same
[10:54] <Guest53051> ctrl and f1 login and then  sudo stop gdm
[10:54] <dioel> gottto: .. il doit anyways
[10:54] <Guest53051> then startx
[10:55] <maginot> matteo1990, nothing changed? You are supposed to be able to use 1024x768, check System > Preferences > Video and see if you can alter the resolution
[10:55] <mansa> can anyone tell me how to remove the proxy setting already set using http_proxy
[10:55] <mansa> i mean i am not connected to direct connecting but how do i remove the proxy settings
[10:56] <mawst> Can you wget a directory?
[10:56] <matteo1990> maginot, i can't change more than 800x600 O.o
[10:56] <maginot> mansa, you want to remove the variable ?
[10:56] <mansa> yes rt
[10:57] <mansa> maginot:  i had set it using http_proxy
[10:57] <LucidLynx> got a problem where my laptop with LucidLynx and nVidia driver 195.36.15 + lcd screen my laptop does not wake up from auto standby
[10:57] <rww> LucidLynx: Lucid/10.04 discussion and support is in #ubuntu+1, not here.
[10:57] <mansa> maginot: now when i do sudo apt-get update it says " failed to fetch from the PROXY"
[10:59] <maginot> mansa, just unset it... unset http_proxy
[10:59] <theadmin> ...what the heck is LS_COLORS envvar? It's weird
[10:59] <maginot> matteo1990, I'm getting out of ideas here... are you using karmic ?
[11:00] <matteo1990> maginot, yea.
[11:00] <maginot> theadmin, its not weird... its supposed to make your ls show some collors
[11:00] <costre> matteo1990, How high resolutions is it supposed to handle?
[11:00] <theadmin> maginot: Ah, me seez
[11:01] <costre> Oh, I just remembered when I got my 16MB Banshee, it could handle all resolutions in 24-bit color ... What a revelation :D
[11:01] <maginot> matteo1990, well, if the xorg.conf isn't able to help you, just run dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and see if anything changes
[11:02] <tuga3d> hi all
[11:02] <marcuz> !list
[11:02] <maginot> matteo1990, anyway, have to prepare my things to go to work, almost 8am here... sorry if I couldn't help with you problem =/
[11:03] <theadmin> marcuz: I think you want "/list"
[11:03] <matteo1990> maginot, you helped me quite alot :D Thx for all
[11:03] <UNDERLOW> 转了这么多地方总算找到说话次数还频繁点的
[11:04] <theadmin> ...what the?
[11:04] <maginot> UNDERLOW, sure, why not ;)
[11:04] <theadmin> ubottu: cn | underlow
[11:04] <UNDERLOW> 我刚才找BOT了，没找到
[11:04] <Mark22> Hello, are there currently known changes/bugfixes in 10.4 beta1 that are applied before it is released as version 10.4 (server edition)?
[11:04] <matteo1990> maginot, maybe the thing that i have a 4:3 may helP?
[11:05] <mansa> no it is not working
[11:05] <costre> Mark22, I get updates all the time, so I believe it's getting bugfixed 24/7
[11:05] <mansa> still i am not able to run the sudo apt-get update
[11:05] <maginot> mansa, unset http_proxy will unset http_proxy var from you console, that was you question.
[11:05] <costre> Mark22, Seerver edition, no sure however
[11:05] <developer__> hi all
[11:05] <mansa> that is rt but it is not getting unset
[11:06] <developer__> i want to send email from my console....what should i do??
[11:06] <mansa> because when i run sudo apt-get update it says "not possible to resolve the proxy"
[11:06] <UNDERLOW> must speak english?
[11:06] <mansa> any ideas
[11:06] <maginot> mansa, unset http_proxy && echo $http_proxy ... what this shows to you ?
[11:06] <Duke_> How do I install from a .tar.gz file? I already have build-essential installed, what now?
[11:06] <maginot> UNDERLOW, here, yes.
[11:06] <theadmin> UNDERLOW: What is your native language?
[11:07] <developer__> Duke_, you are installaing which software
[11:07] <UNDERLOW> chinese
[11:07] <theadmin> UNDERLOW: Please join #ubuntu-cn
[11:07] <maginot> Duke_, did you after unpacking the tar.gz file entered his directory and typed ./configure && make && make install
[11:07] <UNDERLOW> but nobody in #ubuntu-cn
[11:07] <theadmin> Duke_: See the "README" file (usually included in the .tgz)
[11:08] <maginot> UNDERLOW, so you can try here, but this is international, so keep your question in english please
[11:08] <developer__> mansa, what is your problem??
[11:08] <theadmin> UNDERLOW: Okay, then ask here, but on english
[11:08] <developer__> mansa, is it with proxy??
[11:08] <costre> UNDERLOW, There are 50 people in #ubuntu-cn
[11:08] <mansa> yes rt
[11:08] <UNDERLOW> yes,i know
[11:08] <AdvoWork> is there any way I can find out if a Dell Vostro 230 will work with Ubuntu?
[11:08] <theadmin> costre: There are 1349 people here :/ But most of them idle. No?
[11:08] <mansa> i has set the proxy using http_proxy
[11:08] <developer__> mansa, you can set proxy using gui
[11:08] <mansa> but now i am directly connected to the net
[11:08] <costre> theadmin, Good point :)
[11:08] <mansa> so i need no proxy
[11:08] <mansa> so how do i unset it
[11:09] <developer__> mansa, so what is the problem now??
[11:09] <maginot> mansa, again, unsert http_proxy
[11:09] <maginot> *unset
[11:09] <maginot> mansa, you asked how to unset, to unset you must do "unset var" this means, unset http_proxy...
[11:10] <mansa> i mean now when i try to install something it says unable to resolve proxy
[11:10] <maginot> mansa, so maybe your proxy settings is inside /etc/apt/apt.conf
[11:10] <Duke_> maginot I got to the ./configure and it says bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[11:10] <mansa> so then wat do i do
[11:11] <mansa> i have just some files in that directory
[11:11] <Mark22> costre: thank you for the update, in that case I won't install it tomorrow and wait till the official normall release
[11:11] <developer__> Duke_, hey which is the package you are installing??
[11:11] <maginot> Duke_, are you inside the package directory ? So maybe it has no configure... read any HOWTO/INSTALL/README file inside the directory
[11:11] <theadmin> Duke_: there usually is a README file inside the directory. Please see that.
[11:12] <Duke_> ah thanks fellas the readme had nothing but there was a file called install with all the info
[11:12] <mansa> it is not working any ideas wat to do
[11:12] <maginot> mansa, do you have /etc/apt/apt.conf?
[11:12] <mansa> yes i have
[11:12] <mansa> it has some files
[11:12] <theadmin> By the way, how to check whether some file exists?
[11:12] <maginot> mansa, no, apt.conf not apt.conf.d
[11:12] <Ahren_The_Magus> Someone told me the other day how to do this, but I can't remember... I have an application in my Preferences/Sessions (Hardy Heron) that I'm starting up on boot that I want to push automatically to desk 3.  It was some program I have to download, but I can't find it, that enables this functionality.  Google isn't helping me find it...can anyone here help me with this?
[11:12] <theadmin> Via the CLI, that is
[11:13] <developer__> mansa, the proxy you set will be erased in the next reboot
[11:13] <mansa> no i dont
[11:13] <mansa> ok i will tru
[11:13] <mansa> try
[11:13] <maginot> mansa, do this:  grep -i -r -H -e 'aquire' /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/* and pastebin the output
[11:13] <britany_okla> i am very new to ubuntu and all this can someone help msg me
[11:14] <theadmin> maginot: What the? -irHe? What would that do?
[11:14] <maginot> theadmin, man grep
[11:14] <theadmin> britany_okla: Ask question in the channel.
[11:14] <Ahren_The_Magus> ...ok, guessing this isn't a good time to ask questions.  I'm just being ignored this morning.  Nevermind then.
[11:15] <maginot> mansa, also, check if there is anything inside System > Preferences > Network Proxy
[11:15] <theadmin> maginot: Woah %) Quite complicated eh...
[11:15] <britany_okla> how do u get channel list i just keep going to this channel
[11:15] <theadmin> britany_okla: type "/list" (without the quotes)
[11:15] <rocket16> Hello all. An Empathy problem, it shows in debug "empathy_idle_set_presence: Empathy is not online"
[11:15] <britany_okla> oh cool
[11:15] <mouse> Anybody know what keyboard button xf86explorer is?
[11:16] <rocket16> I use gnome-ppp for connection,but Empathy only comes online after I connect Pidgin, and then wait for 5 minutes
[11:16] <rocket16> It shows that it is not online, any suggesstion?
[11:16] <rocket16> I think gnome-ppp can't connect Empathy,
[11:16] <theadmin> rocket16: :/ Empathy is just no good, huh? I'd report a bug if i were you
[11:17] <theadmin> rocket16: I had quite the same problem with KVPNC and Kopete.
[11:17] <rocket16> theadmin: Oh, then should I do it, I mean report Big?
[11:17] <rocket16> theadmin: Yes, I tried Kopete too, it is not good,
[11:18] <theadmin> rocket16: lol "report big"... Anyway, to report a bug, try "ubuntu-bug empathy"... Does it work by now, people? AFAIR ubuntu-bug was broken
[11:18] <rocket16> theadmin:theadmin: Oh, thanks for the help, :)
[11:20] <rocket16> theadmin: Should I try Network Manager? It is purely bad, but has it been improved anyway?
[11:20] <theadmin> rocket16: network manager? PPP is STILL broken in it.
[11:21] <rocket16> theadmin: Oh! Thanks for the info, I am, really disdatisfied with Network Manager
[11:22] <theadmin> rocket16: Well, it works fine for me. But error messages could be a bit more informative :/
[11:22] <theadmin> I mean it only shows "Connection failed", lol
[11:25] <rocket16_> Oh Yes! I used NM and Empathy is now online!
[11:25] <rocket16_> Another problem,
[11:25] <rocket16_> FFirefox is taking nearly 121 MB RAM, it is really too much, can it be reduced?
[11:25] <theadmin> rocket16_: Huh. What version are you running? Any flash/java apps
[11:26] <rocket16_> theadmin: Yes, I am running the 3.5.3 and with Flash, VLC and Java ICE Plugin
[11:27] <theadmin> rocket16_: Update it to 3.5.8, it's a lot faster. Better to 3.6 but it doesn't work well with Ubuntu
[11:27] <chilli0> Hey , how can i hold a gnome-terminal?
[11:27] <rocket16_> theadmin: Oh! Thanks a lot, upgrading now
[11:28] <erUSUL> chilli0: define "hold"
[11:28] <theadmin> rocket16_: Hm. Doesn't update manager do it automatically? *huh*
[11:28] <chilli0> erUSUL,  Doesn't close after progam is run.
[11:28] <rocket16_> theadmin: Actually, I disabled the Update manager, since Lucid is coming soon, :)
[11:29] <theadmin> rocket16_: So what? It won't update you to Lucid automatically.
[11:29] <erUSUL> chilli0: you are launching " genome-terminal -e 'someprogram' " ?
[11:29] <chilli0> Yes
[11:29] <rocket16_> theadmin: No, I mean, I want to get Lucid as soon as pobssible, and don't want to download much more updates now, :) Beccause Lucid needs  a clean install
[11:30] <theadmin> rocket16_: It does not, you can update via update-manager to it as well
[11:30] <chilli0> erUSUL,  Yes
[11:31] <rocket16_> theadmin: Yes, but then I won't have a CD, and also, if there is a failure in connection, It will get crashed, So, a clean install is better, isn't it?
[11:31] <ubuntu> Hello their I had 2 ubuntu in my hardisk but after removing one, grub is not showing boot menu. It is showing: grub rescue> No such partition. What must be the problem please help.
[11:31] <erUSUL> chilli0: this worked for me --> gnome-terminal -e 'bash -c "somecommand && exec bash"'
[11:31] <theadmin> rocket16_: Always better. I always do a clean install and then run a small script to install all those packages i need and remove unneeded ones
[11:32] <rocket16_> theadmin: Great process! I will try it too,
[11:34] <chilli0> erUSUL,  Thanks =D
[11:34] <zombie-robot> anyone know a ssh how-to?
[11:34] <erUSUL> !ssh
 what you looking for? conf file?
[11:35] <ubuntu> Can any one please help?
[11:36] <Enelar> People! Can you help me? I want to check my first irc server. Pls connect 213.21.44.94 channel #default
[11:36] <steelbox> hi all
[11:36] <e-DIO-t> hi there!
[11:37] <theadmin> Enelar: "Connection refused"
[11:37] <Mkools> Hello their I had 2 ubuntu in my hardisk but after removing one, grub is not showing boot menu. It is showing: grub rescue> No such partition. What must be the problem please help.
[11:37] <steelbox> I have a problem during the migration toward Karmic
 thnk... hm...
[11:37] <steelbox> panels are empty on the desktop
[11:38] <steelbox> I have succeeded to reload panels by calling gconftool
[11:38] <Mkools> theadmin: Can you help me?
[11:38] <steelbox> but panels are empty again at reboot
[11:38] <theadmin> Can anyone help me installing ejabberd? I don't get what must i specify as server name, i don't have a domain name
[11:38] <theadmin> Mkools: Doubt it
[11:39] <theadmin> Mkools: Although... you can try reinstalling GRUB
[11:39] <AdvoWork> is there any way I can find out if a Dell Vostro 230 will work with Ubuntu?
[11:39] <steelbox> I have put the gconftool command into /etc/initr.d/rc.local
[11:39] <Mkools> theadmin: How can I reinstall grub?
[11:39] <steelbox> but I always lost the launchers I had myself
[11:39] <Dazzled> AdvoWork: use a LiveCD, that doesn't install anything,
[11:39] <steelbox> anyone can help me?
[11:40] <leigh> Hi guys - just installed Ubuntu for the first time, i've installed evolution but it just crashes every time i read an email - any ideas?
[11:40] <theadmin> Mkools: Boot from a livecd, do "sudo grub-install /dev/sda && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /root && sudo chroot /root" and "sudo update-grub" (where in /dev/sda is your Linux harddrive and /dev/sda1 your Linux partition)
[11:41] <Dazzled> AdvoWork: Set BIOS to boot from CD first, and then once it read the CD, select 'try without installing'
[11:42] <e-DIO-t> leigh -> rm -r /home/yourhome/.evolution/yourmailbox, purge evolution and install it back
[11:43] <edgy360> would Teamviewer work ok on Ubuntu in Wine?
[11:43] <theadmin> edgy360: Partially. You can establish outgoing connections only.
[11:43] <steelbox> need some help, plz
[11:43] <edgy360> that would be ok then
[11:43] <leigh> any ideas why it would do it though?  completely fresh install and configured only after an initial update?
[11:43] <theadmin> edgy360: Take a look at jrdesktop and Yuuguu, too.
[11:44] <e-DIO-t> dunno leigh! I had the same problem due to exchange-plugin
[11:44] <edgy360> the thing is, I need to make connections to Teamviewer computers running Windows
[11:44] <Mkools> theadmin: Can I show you my screenshot of my disk utility
[11:44] <leigh> hmmm, random
[11:44] <steelbox> need some help, plz
[11:44] <theadmin> Teamviewer team are working on a Linux version... can't wait :)
[11:44] <leigh> ah well, will try it now - cheers
[11:44] <theadmin> Mkools: Uh, k.
[11:44] <e-DIO-t> edgy: use gnome-rdp :)
[11:44] <sjorsr> edgy360: i suppose it should work
[11:44] <sjorsr> but wouldn't it be easier to use a virtual machine for those kind of things?
[11:44] <edgy360> e-DIO-t: that would not connect to Teamviewer would it?
[11:45] <sjorsr> it wouldn't, no.
[11:45] <e-DIO-t> edgy360: absoluteli not, i guess :P
[11:45] <e-DIO-t> so -> guess sjorsr solution would be the best -> Winxp under VBox -> Teamviewer
[11:46] <steelbox> anyone can help me?
[11:46] <sjorsr> yeah most likely
[11:46] <sjorsr> either that or use a central windows server with terminal services
[11:46] <shan> is there some one who could help me out with a tv tuner card installation?
[11:46] <sjorsr> and run the teamviewer client from there.
[11:47] <Aufwind> How do I tell firefox to show the opened pdfs in firefox and not to download them first and then open them (I know he has to download them either way but I want to display the pdf in the browser...)
[11:48] <shan> I have teamviewer working through wine
[11:48] <theadmin> Aufwind: I doubt it can do this.
[11:48] <shan> It works fine for me
[11:48] <sjorsr> ehm
[11:48] <sjorsr> my firefox does that just fine i think?
[11:48] <sjorsr> you'll need to install acroread and all related firefox-plugins tho
[11:49] <theadmin> sjorsr: Okay, you proved me wrong. Congratulations.
[11:49] <Aufwind> sjorsr: I ll try that - thanks
[11:49] <sjorsr> was a while ago though, i think it was 6.04
[11:50] <sjorsr> http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/acroread.html
[11:50] <Mkools> theadmin: How to upload a png file in pastebin?
[11:50] <theadmin> Mkools: in no way :/ Try another place, say, imagebin.ca
[11:52] <sjorsr> anyone who knows how to set up a preseeded installation so that it does not install certain packages i don't need? (firefox, openoffice, etc.)
[11:52] <Mkools> theadmin: Their is utility in Xhat to transfer file, how to use it
[11:52] <theadmin> Mkools: I don't think Pidgin accepts files trough IRC, sorry...
[11:53] <Enelar> I need your help once again.... 213.21.44.94 channel #default
[11:53] <Edgar_Allan_Poe> Alguém ai fala português?
[11:54] <Aufwind> Problem solved thank you so much!
 use online translator, or change channel
[11:54] <Edgar_Allan_Poe> ok thanks
[11:54] <Mkools> theadmin: http://imagebin.ca/view/BgXlYkQ.html
[11:54] <maginot> Edgar_Allan_Poe, #ubuntu-pt todo mundo fala ;)
[11:55] <Edgar_Allan_Poe> maravilha =)
[11:55] <Emanon> ok this is an ugly script that uses bad kung foo but it gets the job done what do we think? http://pastebin.com/VV3Y1R97
[11:55] <Enelar> People! Can you help me? I want to check my first irc server. Pls connect 213.21.44.94 channel #default
[11:55] <sfdev2009> hi all
 hi
[11:55] <Emanon> !hi | sfdev2009
[11:55] <e-DIO-t> mmh does anyone have idea about a crashing wireless device with karmic koala desktop on an acer extensa 3655z?
[11:56] <obiwan_> Enelar: it doesn't work for me
[11:56] <sfdev2009> I'm trying to find out if the soap is iinstalled on my server?
[11:56] <Enelar> hrrr.... why....
[11:56] <sfdev2009> without looking at phpinfo?
[11:56] <Edgar_Allan_Poe> decidi migrar pro ubuntu... tenho muito interesse em expandir meu conhecimento, mas já comecei dando uns moles... e removi do painel superior... aquela bolinha que me oferecia as opções de suspender... hibernar... desligar.. tentei adiciona-la novamente, mas não a encontrei. =x
[11:56] <Edgar_Allan_Poe> Alguém me ajuda a desfazer essa mancada de noob? =x kkkkkkk
[11:56] <obiwan_> Enelar: it says connection refused
[11:56] <e-DIO-t> Edgar_Allan_Poe:  -> english :P
[11:56] <truk> tamtam
 ok, thanks
[11:57] <obiwan_> did you open that port in the router Enelar ? or forward to your server? o
[11:57] <Enelar> ye
[11:57] <truk> hi everybody
[11:57] <Enelar> sec
[11:57] <obiwan_> ok
[11:58] <Edgar_Allan_Poe> decided to migrate ubuntu pro ... I am very interested in expanding my knowledge, but it got bad ... and removed the top panel ... that ball that gave me the options to suspend ... hibernate ... off .. I tried to add it again, but did not find it. = x
[11:58] <Edgar_Allan_Poe>  Someone help me undo this blunder of noob? = x kkkkkkk
[11:58] <obiwan_> !portugues | Edgar_Allan_Poe
[11:58] <obiwan_> hey guys how you trigger the language bot?
[11:58] <gottto>  Emanon just needs an exit 0 line at the bottom
[11:58] <Emanon> to close the terminal?
 hm, pls try once again
[11:58] <obiwan_> !es | obiwan_ test
[11:58] <Emanon> didnt think of that since i use tilda :-)
[11:58] <obiwan_> !pt | Edgar_Allan_Poe
[11:58] <Mkools> theadmin: Are you here?
[11:58] <obiwan_> ok Enelar
 looks like didnt work...
[11:59] <gottto> Emanon: the exit 0 ? - justs exits the script cleanly is all
[12:00] <truk> he what is this here
[12:00] <obiwan_> the same Enelar
[12:00] <Emanon> ok thanks i put it in there (its my first script from scratch, just edited a few before)
[12:01] <obiwan_> Enelar: i'm not sure but maybe you need to edit iptables
[12:01] <Emanon> oh i see exit 0=exit unless error thanks that IS actually helpful
[12:03] <truk> so  user's happy oster for you all
[12:04] <edgy360> do you think me moving from Vista to Ubuntu would be a good idea?
[12:04] <Emanon> depends on your uses edgy360
[12:04] <IdleOne> edgy360: depends what you want to do with your system
[12:04] <edgy360> IRC, FTP, webdesign
[12:05] <edgy360> email, web browsing (e.g. Twitter, facebook)
[12:05] <IdleOne> then yes
[12:05] <Emanon> yea that is well within ubuntu's scope
[12:05] <IdleOne> edgy360: I suggest you go slowly and dual boot
[12:06] <edgy360> I don't have a big enough hdd
[12:06] <IdleOne> until you are comfortable with ubuntu
[12:06] <Emanon> or if you dont mind the performance it virtualbox
[12:06] <Emanon> performance hit*
[12:06] <edgy360> I have had Ubuntu on another computer (slower one) but it seemed great
[12:06] <IdleOne> edgy360: how much HD space do you have?
[12:06] <edgy360> 80GB
[12:06] <Emanon> vista needs 15 prefers 20
[12:06] <Dazzled> edgy360: what kind of webdesign?
[12:06] <edgy360> but it came with 2 40GB partions and the main one is full
[12:06] <overmind> edgy360: I have 80GB too and ubuntu works perfectly
[12:07] <edgy360> Dazzled: just coding and using GIMP
[12:07] <IdleOne> all you really need is 10GB for ubuntu (3 for the install )
[12:07] <Dazzled> edgy360: ah, okay, I guess no .NET apps :p
[12:07] <Emanon> 3 for / 7 for /home IdleOne?
[12:07] <edgy360> Ubuntu is currently running on a live disk now on my laptop and it seems 10x faster than Vista
[12:08] <IdleOne> Emanon: yeah and use some sorta of external storage for any large media files
[12:08] <Emanon> which is cool considering it runs slower on a live disk than natively
[12:08] <edgy360> would Visual Studio run in Wine because I use it for my work
[12:08] <IdleOne> !appdb
[12:08] <Dazzled> edgy360: I use Eclipse with CDT in Ubuntu (for C++)
[12:08] <red2kic> edgy360: I'll tell you. I had seen so many people wanting to switch over but never did. If you want to use linux from this point on, the best bet is to get ready and move everything over there. Start using it. :)
[12:09] <Mkools> When I do sudo grub it says grub not found. What must be the problem?
[12:09] <edgy360> Dazzled would I be able to code C# the same with that? (e.g. visual tools for designing the apps)
[12:09] <Emanon> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=892 edgy360?
[12:10] <edgy360> yeah that program
[12:10] <Dazzled> edgy360: tbh, I don't know, C# is still very MS oriented
[12:10] <wHITEz0MBIE> edgy360, im just installed guest additions for xp in virtual box.. extremely good for running windows programs
[12:10] <Dazzled> edgy360: There's Mono, but that didn't work out to well over here
[12:10] <edgy360> I might just use my spare xp laptop for coding and switch the main one to Ubuntu :)
[12:11] <Mkools> Emanon: Can you help me?
[12:11] <IdleOne> edgy360: there you go, because you need windows for work I think it is a good idea to make sure you keep the tools and OS you are used to, least until you are comfortable with Ubuntu
[12:11] <Dazzled> edgy360: tbh, I'd advertise a dual boot, especially when being a student
[12:12] <sjorsr> Mkools: just ask your question :)
[12:12] <Emanon> yea i found when i stopped dual booting and just committed to going penguin i got into it faster
[12:12] <Emanon> Mkools: you have the package for grub installed?
[12:12] <Mkools> sjorsr: Hello their I had 2 ubuntu in my hardisk but after removing one, grub is not showing boot menu. It is showing: grub rescue> No such partition. What must be the problem please help.
[12:12] <sjorsr> definetely agree, i did that as well back in the days, when i was dual booting it was way too easy to just "switch back to windows" to get something done when it didn't work straightaway under linux.
[12:13] <sjorsr> hmmm
[12:13] <Mkools> Emanon: I am talking from live cd.
[12:13] <sjorsr> you also don't get a grub bootloader menu when booting your machine?
[12:13] <sjorsr> ok, which version of linux do you have installed on the harddisk you still have in your computer?
[12:14] <Mkools> Emanon:sjorsr: Can I show you my screenshot of my disk utility
[12:14] <Emanon> it may be that grub was installed on the drive you removed even if ubuntu was not (as it tends to put the bootloader on the first drive)
[12:14] <Emanon> feel free
[12:14] <papuccino1> Can anyone help me out:
[12:14] <papuccino1> "You might want to try changing the WPA Supplicant on your network manager to wext. On wicd it's the first option when you go into Preferences. "
[12:14] <papuccino1> How can I change the WPA Supplicant?
[12:14] <sjorsr> sure, upload it on imagebin.ca or somewhere.
[12:14] <Emanon> just use use imagebin.ca so everyone can see it and help
[12:14] <IdleOne> papuccino1: go into Preferences in wicd
[12:14] <Mkools> sjorsr: http://imagebin.ca/view/BgXlYkQ.html
[12:14] <papuccino1> But where is wicd?
[12:14] <papuccino1> I'm a newbie
[12:14] <Mkools> also for Emanon
[12:15] <sjorsr> ok
[12:15] <sjorsr> let's see
[12:15] <IdleOne> it is the network manager you are using. probably top right of your screen, the icon that shows you are connected to the net
[12:15] <Emanon> wow thats not a mass of partitions or anything
[12:16] <sjorsr> can you try the following command mkools (in a terminal, as root)
[12:16] <papuccino1> I see it. But when I right click it, I see no "Preferences" thingy.
[12:16] <IdleOne> papuccino1: try left clicking :)
[12:16] <papuccino1> When I left click it, also no preferences
[12:16] <sjorsr> mkdir /mnt/linux; mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/linux
[12:16] <papuccino1> Wired Network, Wireless Network, connect, create etc.
[12:16] <papuccino1> but no preferences
[12:16] <papuccino1> :(
[12:17] <IdleOne> papuccino1: hmmm, I don't use wicd so I am not sure where the prefs menu is located
[12:17] <Mkools> sjorsr: I had first installed ubuntu 32 bit then 64 bit and then removed 32 bit first.
[12:17] <sjorsr> ah, now that shouldn't matter really, because the bootloader doesn't differentiate between x64 and x86 os'es
[12:17] <Mkools> sjorsr: I am using ubuntu live cd of 32 bit.
[12:18] <sjorsr> ok, can you open a console?
[12:18] <sjorsr> i haven't worked with livecd's for a while so i'm a bit rusty where everything is.
[12:18] <papuccino1> :'(
[12:18] <papuccino1> I really want to use Linux but without wireless I just can't use it.
[12:18] <sjorsr> should be under applications->accessories->terminal
[12:18] <Mkools> sjorsr: Yeah I have opened it.
[12:19] <sjorsr> ok
[12:19] <sjorsr> now do the following
[12:19] <sjorsr> mkdir /mnt/linux; mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/linux
[12:19] <sjorsr> what result does that give?
[12:20] <obscurant1st> my GUI wont work after installing ati catalyst driver for radeon x2300, how can i remove and restor the GUI?
[12:20] <obscurant1st> :O
[12:20] <Mkools> sjorsr: Yeah I will do it, but Can I directly follow the instructions on: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[12:20] <sjorsr> haha
[12:20] <sjorsr> ehm, 1sec
[12:20] <sjorsr> it's quite old
[12:21] <Mkools> sjorsr: where is grub installed on drive does it installs on C:
[12:21] <sjorsr> it installs on the master boot record.
[12:21] <Mkools> Where is MBR located?
[12:21] <sjorsr> which is basically the first data on the harddisk, it's not a partition like C: or your linux partition as such.
[12:21] <sjorsr> ok, can you try something?
[12:21] <sjorsr> in the console, type in the following command
[12:21] <sjorsr> grub-install /dev/sda
[12:21] <Mkools> Yeah one minute.
[12:23] <steelbox> hi there!
[12:23] <phylock> can anyone tell me how to force an application to always open on one screen in a dual screen setup?? is there a environment variable or something I can set
[12:23] <obscurant1st> Mkools, mbr is the first 512 of your HD
[12:24] <Emanon> !hi | steelbox
[12:24] <steelbox> I have a problem with my panels on the desktop
[12:24] <obscurant1st> my GUI wont work after installing ati catalyst driver for radeon x2300, how can i remove and restor the GUI?
[12:24] <Emanon> good question phylock i hope someone knows cause that would be awesome for my moms dual head setup
[12:25] <sjorsr> obscurant1st: are you booted through a livecd now?
[12:25] <Mkools> sjorsr: After doing sudo grub-install /dev/sda It showed: grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub.
[12:25] <Mkools> No path or device is specified.
[12:25] <Mkools> Try ``grub-probe --help'' for more information.
[12:25] <Mkools> Auto-detection of a filesystem module failed.
[12:25] <Mkools> Please specify the module with the option `--modules' explicitly.
[12:25] <FloodBot1> Mkools: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:25] <steelbox> I always need to call gconftool to restore default panels
[12:25] <hotxboy1S> what`s pulseaudio output?
[12:25] <sjorsr> hmmm
[12:25] <Mkools> FloodBot1: sorry.
[12:25] <sjorsr> ok, can you find out which sata device your harddisk is?
[12:26] <hotxboy1S> I cannot play audio when I choose this in Audacious.
[12:26] <steelbox> so, is there a way to avoid calling gconftool at each reboot?
[12:26] <hotxboy1S> Any advice?
[12:26] <Mkools> sjorsr: How to do it?
[12:26] <sjorsr> ehm
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> hotxboy1S:  pulseaudio is a sound system thats over top of alsa.. its used by default in gnome
[12:26] <sjorsr> like i said, i'm a bit rusty when it comes to livecd's
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> !pulse
[12:26] <sjorsr> but if you run ls /dev/sd*
[12:27] <sjorsr> then paste the output in a pastebin so we can read it, we should be able to find it for you.
[12:27] <steelbox> so, anyone can help me?
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> steelbox:  rephrase/clarify the question perhaps. I dident even see the actual question.
[12:28] <rocket16> !ask | steelbox
[12:28] <steelbox> Dr_Willis: okay
[12:29] <Mkools> sjorsr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/407002/
[12:29] <steelbox> Dr_Willis: at each reboot, I have to restore default panels by calling gconftool
[12:29] <steelbox> Dr_Willis: so, I'd like to avoid that
[12:30] <rocket16> steelbox: Right click an empty part of the panel and add whatever you want, a window list, volumn control, anything.
[12:30] <rocket16> If the panel was not running you could run gnome-panel via the run menu with Alt + F2.
[12:30] <steelbox> rocket16: I did that
[12:31] <steelbox> but I always need to call gconftool in a terminal
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> steelbox:  you could clear out all your users setting files to get back to defaults.. sounds like you gotsome config files that are either wrong, or owned by root, or somthoing else weird
[12:31] <rocket16> steelbox: Ok, go to System-Preferences-Startup applications, and add "gnome-panels" command there, to the startup file
[12:32] <steelbox> rocket16: okay, it's done
[12:33] <steelbox> so, I can reboot now?
[12:33] <rocket16> steelbox: Ok, then it will work,
[12:33] <steelbox> okay, let's go :)
[12:33] <rocket16> steelbox: Sure, or you can relog there
[12:33] <rocket16> steelbox: Relogging is better to test it,
[12:34] <arun__> hi
[12:34] <rocket16> arun__ Hi!
[12:35] <arun__> i installed ubuntu 9.10 but i cannot connect to the net beacuse the network manager has a bug in it
[12:35] <Emanon> !hi | arun__
[12:35] <Emanon> !bummer
[12:35] <Mkools> sjorsr: So next?
[12:35] <rocket16> arun__: Then use Gnome-ppp, for connecting
[12:35] <sjorsr> sorry, was afk for a second.
[12:35] <rocket16> !gnome-ppp | arun__
[12:36] <sjorsr> hmm...
[12:36] <sjorsr> ok, did you mount /dev/sda8 yet?
[12:36] <arun__> gnome ppp is does not come with the installation disk
[12:36] <sjorsr> by doing sudo mkdir /mnt/linux; sudo mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/linux
[12:36] <Mkools> sjorsr: No prob, http://paste.ubuntu.com/407002/
[12:36] <BRcc> hey all
[12:37] <Emanon> !hi | BRcc
[12:37] <BRcc> hey
[12:37] <BRcc> wonder if u can help me emanon
[12:37] <Emanon> whacha need?
[12:37] <rocket16> !ask | BRcc
[12:37] <Edgar_Allan_Poe> !pt
[12:38] <arun__> rocket16: how to use gnome ppp plz tell me
[12:38] <BRcc> ive go an ati hd 5770 need to change the clock speeds ,but everytime i input the values its telling me check input values again
[12:38] <Mkools> obscurant1st: Then after deleting the other partitions why this problem comes?
[12:39] <Emanon> no clue hope someone else has an idea
[12:39] <Emanon> i dont use ati as a general rule
[12:39] <rocket16> arun__: Use "sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp" from terminal, and use it, with "gksudo gnome-ppp" command,
[12:39] <Emanon> not that that helps YOU much
[12:39] <steelbox> re
[12:39] <Rods_Tiger> in the screensaver that does a slideshow of the pictures folder, it's going far too fast - how do I set it to 90 seconds per frame?
[12:39] <steelbox> rocket16: it doesn't work
[12:40] <guntbert> !who | Emanon
[12:40] <rocket16> steelbox: Oh!
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> Rods_Tiger:  given gnomes total lack of screensaver confiuragion... im not sure  its doable.  THere may be some gconf settings.
[12:40] <arun__> rocket: but fist i'm not able to connect to the net to to downaload
[12:40] <Emanon> rocket16: did you just tell someone without a network connection to apt-get install something?
[12:40] <rocket16> Emanon: I just told him to do it from another pc or so,
[12:40] <Rods_Tiger> Dr Willis - oh, that's not good.
[12:40] <rocket16> Emanon: Or he can download
[12:40] <Emanon> oh ok
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> Rods_Tiger:  gnome is rather lacking in screensaver 'features'  theres the xscreensaver package you can install and have more/better controll
[12:41] <Rods_Tiger> aha
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> Rods_Tiger:  kde's screensavers are amazingly more usefull :)
[12:41] <rocket16> !who | Emanon
[12:41] <Rods_Tiger> I tried installing feh, on a recommendation, but it installed but never showed up at all anywhere
[12:41] <steelbox> so, the problem isn't resolved
[12:42] <Rods_Tiger> I tried kde a few weeks ago and nobody could figure out how to use it at all
[12:42] <obscurant1st> Mkools, what is the problem, i didnt see the question
[12:42] <obscurant1st> :|
[12:42] <sjorsr> i think nobody in general figured out how to use kde at all ;)
[12:42] <Emanon> or write it
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> Rods_Tiger:  read their guide. Its got some very nice features in the 4.4 version  but lacking in some ways compared to the idiotproffing thats in gnome
[12:43] <steelbox> in fact, I need to call the following command :
[12:43] <sjorsr> except for people that like shiny buttons that look like they're covered in something sticky :P
[12:43] <steelbox> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[12:43] <Emanon> i dont like how they made amarok suck
[12:43] <steelbox> and I'd like to avoid calling this command at each reboot
[12:43] <steelbox> is it possible?
[12:43] <sjorsr> ehm
[12:43] <sjorsr> well
[12:44] <guntbert> steelbox: that erases all your personal settings for the panel
[12:44] <Rods_Tiger> gnome resembles what we're used to on the other Macs
[12:44] <Mkools> obscurant1st: When you said MBR is first few bytes of disk, then why grub error comes after deleting other partitions.
[12:44] <sjorsr> if you don't mind losing your desktop settings, you can try removing your .gconf and .gnome2 directories
[12:44] <steelbox> guntbert: indeed and it's boring
[12:44] <sjorsr> cd ~; mv .gconf .gconf_old; mv .gnome2 .gnome2_old
[12:44] <Mkools> sjorsr: Are you talking to me.
[12:44] <Johnny1> Is there a way for me to create a blank iso image?
[12:44] <Rods_Tiger> but I just wanted to set up one spare netbook to drive a spare tft monitor as a digital photo frame
[12:44] <sjorsr> to steelbox, sorry
[12:44] <arun__> plz help  me friends
[12:44] <steelbox> sjorsr: and it will works?
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Johnny1:  then what do you plan on doing withit?
[12:45] <Dazzled> Mkools: grub tries to read from UUID's it knows, but if they don't exist, it coughs up an error
[12:45] <obscurant1st> Mkools, may be your partition table got corrupted
[12:45] <arun__> how to connect the net in 9.10 as my network manager has a bug in it.
[12:45] <raj-darkmystery> hi guys.. anybody knows how to upgrade the gnome version?
[12:45] <steelbox> ok, I reboot
[12:45] <obscurant1st> arun__, try WICD
[12:45] <Mkools> Dazzled: What is UUID
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> Rods_Tiger:  i recall some firefox extension that could do that.   not really a screensaver.. but more of a ditital pictureframe feature that used local and network sources
[12:45] <arun__> what is WICD?
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> !uuid
[12:46] <arun__> a command or a applicatin
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> arun__:  wicd is an altertanive tool to manage your networks
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> !info wicd
[12:46] <obscurant1st> arun__, a tool fro connectuiong to wifi instead of gnome network manager
[12:46] <Dazzled> Dr_Willis: thanks, I should do that more often :)
[12:46] <Mkools> obscurant1st: How to make partition table correct.
[12:46] <Mkools> Is it also located in MBR.
[12:47] <arun__> i dont use wi-fi,i have a cdma NIC card to connect to net
[12:47] <obscurant1st> Mkools, it is located in MBR, last/first  64 bytes of that 512, i dont remember it correctly
[12:47] <obscurant1st> but it can be an isuue caused by UUID
[12:47] <obscurant1st> the best bet is to reinstall grub n then updatye it
[12:48] <Barone> hy everybody
[12:48] <obscurant1st> arun__, wicd also works with ETH
[12:48] <Emanon> Johnny1:  um dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/your.iso bs=1024 count={size of iso in KB)
[12:48] <obscurant1st> CDMA card also works with WICD
[12:48] <obscurant1st> :)
[12:48] <Emanon> sorry that took so long
[12:48] <arun__> but to downlaod wicd i need to connect to the net
[12:48] <Mkools> obscurant1st: Will you help me in doing it.
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> wicd is handy in some cases with some hardware. but ive never really needed it
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> networkmanager should work with most all normal wired network setups
[12:49] <arun__> no it dit not work for my cdma NIC device
[12:49] <Emanon> id suggest using dcfldd instead of dd tho (its not installed by default) it works faster (or it does for hard drive wipes at least idk about blank iso's)
[12:49] <kelto>  #ubuntu-fr
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> Noi idea what a cdma NIC device even is.
[12:49] <arun__> NIC is Network Interface Card
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> I know what  a NIC is. :)
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> no idwa what a cdma is
[12:50] <Mkools> sjorsr:  So now ?
[12:50] <obscurant1st> Dr_Willis, but for me it had someproblem while connecting through some USb mobile adapters
[12:50] <arun__> CDMA mobile technology
[12:50] <obscurant1st> Dr_Willis, its some kind of USB device which uses a CDMA connection to get connected to inetrnet
[12:50] <arun__> help me guys
[12:51] <obscurant1st> Mkools, yep
[12:51] <obscurant1st> i hv given it in my blog
[12:51] <obscurant1st> u can try it
[12:51] <Mkools> obscurant1st: Please provide me the link.
[12:51] <obscurant1st> Mkools, 1 sec
[12:52] <exalt> hello is this the way to softlink a script in rc2.d:  ls -ln xorg_conf rc2.d
[12:52] <arun__> obscurant1t: i need to connect the net without downloading anyting and that too other than network manager
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> exalt:  what are you even trying to acomplish?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> exalt:  and that command is totally wrong.
[12:53] <Johnny1> Emanon, it says um: command not found
[12:53] <obscurant1st> Mkools, http://obscurant1st.biz/blog/howto-dualboot-mac-iatkos-v7-and-linux-ubuntu-9-10/ do step 5 from this, i think i hv copied it from ubuntu forums only, anyway good luck
[12:54] <exalt> Dr_Willis: pff i have a laptop with stamnia mode, so i made 2 xorgscripts with one for speed one for stamnia, i made a script witch switches it this i need to include in rc2.d
[12:54] <obscurant1st> arun__, ooop,s i cant help u man
[12:54] <arun__> plz
[12:54] <exalt> Dr_Willis:  but thats not my question, my question was if i used the right syntax
[12:54] <Emanon> Johnny1:  dor dd or dcfldd?
[12:54] <guntbert> exalt: no, best you cd rc2.d, then ln -s ../xorg_conf <number>xorg_conf
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> exalt:  if they are in rc.2 then they would get ran at boot up..  or you could put one in rc.local so it gets ran at startup
[12:54] <Emanon> err for*
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> exalt:  'ln -s onething otherthing'
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> exalt:  but the rc scripts need tobe rather specificaly written
[12:55] <martita> ola
[12:55] <Emanon> you dont have dcfldd by default Johnny1, to install it sudo apt-get install dcfldd
[12:55] <martita> ola
[12:55] <exalt> Dr_Willis: thanx, i8m following a tutorial specially from my laptop, ill follow it
[12:55] <Johnny1> Emanon, um dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/jonathan/Desktop/iTunes Backup.iso bs=1024 count=1048576
[12:55] <Johnny1> um: command not found
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> exalt:  if its just a few commands to get ran at boot up /etc/rc.local may be easier to do
[12:55] <zleap> can't you just create a new run level and do it that way, have each run a different script or run a script to switch in which ever one is needed
[12:55] <martita> habla en español
[12:55] <Dazzled> !es
[12:55] <sjorsr> Mkools: sorry, back
[12:55] <Emanon> oh sorry my fault
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> Johnny1:  dont use spaces in a filename.. and why are you making a empty iso file?
[12:55] <Emanon> remove the um Johnny1
[12:55] <sjorsr> did you try mounting that partition yet?
[12:55] <arun__> obscurant1st:  is there any other application other than network manager that comes with the installatin disk
[12:55] <steelbox> re
[12:56] <Emanon> that was me saying um not a command um my fault for thinking in text hehe
[12:56] <steelbox> it doesn't works at all
[12:56] <obscurant1st> arun__, i dont think so
[12:56] <obscurant1st> :(
[12:56] <Johnny1> Dr_Willis, trying to backup some files
[12:56] <steelbox> and it worse than before
[12:56] <martita> join #ubuntu-es
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> Johnny1:  I dont see how making a BLANK iso file will let you do anything like that.
[12:56] <Emanon> and i still really recommend dcfldd over dd hehe
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> Johnny1:  you normally dont write stuff to an empty iso file..
[12:56] <arun__> then how to connect plz help me,its been months since i installed the ubuntu9.10 but cannot connect to net because of a bug
[12:56] <steelbox> rocket16: it doesn't works at all
[12:56] <Mkools> sjorsr: No prob, http://paste.ubuntu.com/407002/
[12:57] <guntbert> Emanon: please use nicks to address people - its really confusing without them
[12:57] <steelbox> sjorsr: it doesn't works at all
[12:57] <sjorsr> hmmm
[12:57] <sjorsr> still gives you problems steelbox?
[12:57] <sjorsr> mkools: did you mount /dev/sda8 somewhere yet?
[12:57] <steelbox> sjorsr: it really worse than before now
[12:57] <Mkools> How to check?
[12:57] <steelbox> I have now a default theme and I can't change the appearance
[12:57] <sjorsr> hmmm
[12:58] <ewook> Mkools: just type mount
[12:58] <sjorsr> check if ~/.gconf and ~/.gnome2 has been created
[12:58] <Emanon> unless he wants to install say, windows to an iso through virt-manager to make a live disk (if that would work)
[12:58] <ewook> Mkools: and to check avail. space, df -h
[12:58] <sjorsr> steelbox, that is.
[12:58] <steelbox> sjorsr: I renamed back the folders
[12:58] <arun__> obscurant1st:  is there any other application other than network manager that comes with the installatin disk
[12:58] <steelbox> so, yeah
[12:59] <Justin22885> anyone know why a broadcom wireless networking card wont work with ubuntu? am i missing a specific driver?
[12:59] <Mkools> /dev/sda8 on /mnt/linux type ext3 (rw)
[12:59] <Mkools> /dev/sda8 on /mnt/root type ext3 (rw)
[12:59] <arun__> obsurant1st: then how to connect plz help me,its been months since i installed the ubuntu9.10 but cannot connect to net because of a bug
[12:59] <sjorsr> hmmm.
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Justin22885:  it would depend on the exact chipset of the card.
[13:00] <sjorsr> steelbox: i'd think the easiest solution would be to reinstall gnome and see if that solves anything
[13:00] <steelbox> how to do that
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> steelbox:  as a test.. make a new user and see if it works for them..
[13:01] <sjorsr> yeah, good point.
[13:01] <steelbox> I don't know how to do that, sorry
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> steelbox:  if it does.. then you could really clean out all the other problem users settings files and Hopefully figure out what is messed up
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> steelbox:  'sudo adduser billgates'
[13:01] <steelbox> Dr_Willis: ;)
[13:02] <ghz_> i can't connect to ubuntu one :(
[13:02] <steelbox> I can't type Alt+Tab now
[13:02] <Mkools> obscurant1st: I already followed instructions on this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/407016/ but second last step is giving me problem i.e. chroot.
[13:02] <Emanon> Senator: Mr. Gates, when did you realize you were creating a monopoly?
[13:02] <Emanon> Gates: *Snicker* Monopoly is just a game, senator, I'm trying to control the world.
[13:02] <steelbox> Dr_Willis: it's done
[13:02] <coder___> how can i add aufs and squashfs modules to my kernel using ubuntu karmic ? thanks
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> steelbox:  last time ive seen people get their settings all messed was from them running stuff as root whenthey shouldent have.. but i also have seen old configs mess things up on occasion
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> steelbox:  now log out and login as the newly made user
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> steelbox:  see if he can set the stuff/fix things/change things.
[13:03] <steelbox> Dr_Willis: okay
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> steelbox:  the new user cant sudo however.. (thats fixable)
[13:03] <coder___> Dr_Willis: how can i add aufs and squashfs modules to my kernel using ubuntu karmic ? thanks
[13:03] <obscurant1st> Mkools, from where yougot this instructions,
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> coder___:  if they are built into the kernrel.. then they are not modules. You would have to recompile the kernel and  check them to be built in
[13:04] <biduzido> Morning, guys!
[13:04] <Mkools> obscurant1st: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[13:04] <sjorsr> karmic should already have squashfs support i think?
[13:04] <sjorsr> the default karmic kernel, that is.
[13:05] <dad> how can i restart samba server
[13:05] <sjorsr> dad: service samba restart
[13:05] <sjorsr> or /etc/init.d/smbd restart
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> is it samba or smbd? i forget
[13:05] <obscurant1st> which version of ubuntu u r using?
[13:05] <biduzido> Hey, I know it's a bit off-topic, but I'd like to urge you to an important campaign... May I?
[13:05] <Arti> hi to all
[13:05] <sjorsr> either one, can't remember
[13:05] <sjorsr> i think smbd
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> biduzido:  please dont.
[13:05] <guntbert> !ot | biduzido
[13:05] <obscurant1st> just give this command n tell me the output "grub-install -v"
[13:05] <johnyO> How do I fix a corrupted usb thumb drive in ubuntu without formatting..
[13:05] <coder___> Dr_Willis: thanks, i got  precompiled kernel from here --> ftp://ftp.slax.org/Linux-Live/kernels/2.6.27.27/linux-2.6.27.27-i486-1.tgz,but how to add to my existing system
[13:06] <Guest41172> thanks
[13:06] <biduzido> Dr_Willis: it's something that matters to us all ;x
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> coder___:  using a slax kernel on ubuntu? Good LUCK with that.
[13:06] <guntbert> coder___: not supported here
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> biduzido:  i doubt it.. and take it to OT channel.
[13:06] <biduzido> Dr_Willis: well, thanks anyway ^^
[13:06] <Guest41172>  service samba restart worked perfect
[13:06] <sjorsr> clearly it doesn't, if it mattered to me i'd have already known it ;)
[13:06] <judgepg> johnyO: try fsck
[13:06] <coder___> guntbert: thanks
[13:06] <arun__> Arti: hi
[13:06] <sjorsr> nps Guest41172
[13:07] <Mkools> obscurant1st: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error
[13:07] <Arti> I have one nproblem with my usb drive,i have some virus that makes my usb onlly with read only file system,i can delet ore put something ore to format that,is it some tools that will force to format ore to delete the files in it?
[13:07] <Arti> arun__:hi
[13:07] <Mkools> obscurant1st: chroot is giving me above problem.
[13:08] <obscurant1st> Mkools, which ubuntu r u using? karmic?
[13:08] <arun__> arti: are you from india
[13:08] <guntbert> !ot | arun__
[13:08] <Arti> arun__: no arun
[13:08] <Mkools> obscurant1st: yes.
[13:08] <judgepg> Arti: are you sure you don't have write tab switched on the USB key?
[13:08] <ghz_> Arti: try gparted or formating via rightclick>Format... on icon
[13:08] <obscurant1st> man that guide is for grub 1
[13:08] <Justin22885> i think i just need to recompile my wireless driver
[13:08] <obscurant1st>  n u r using grub 2
[13:08] <obscurant1st> :o
[13:08] <obscurant1st> i mean from the ubunut forum
[13:09] <johnyO> judgepg: fsck.ext2: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sdg
[13:09] <johnyO> Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?
[13:09] <Arti> judgepg: i dont have eny tabs
[13:09] <guntbert> !u | obscurant1st
[13:09] <arun__> arti: arti is an indian name so i thought u were indian
[13:09] <ech0Asus> i'm having some difficulties with wifi can anyone assist would be greatly appreciated
[13:09] <Mkools> obscurant1st: Now what to do?
[13:09] <guntbert> arun__: please keep to the topic
[13:09] <judgepg> johnyO: try closing all the programs that have the usb opened, and umount it
[13:09] <Arti> ghz: i tried with gparted but i cant format
[13:09] <arun__> guntbert:ok,am sorry
[13:10] <e-DIO-t> pardon: does anyone knows how to open a new gnome-terminal tab? gnome-terminal --tab-with-profile=Default actually opens a new window.
[13:10] <arun__> arti:do u have any issue with ubuntu
[13:10] <ech0Asus> on asus eee pc 1001p, have downloaded src to drivers and compiled successfully also successfully modprobe it shows them in lsmod however it simply doesn't show anything in iwconfig or in networkmanager other then my 3g phone or my wired connection....
[13:10] <johnyO> judgepg: says its not mounted when using umount
[13:10] <steelbox> re
[13:10] <judgepg> Arti: no switches on the usb key that enable read/write protection?  Otherwise, just as the other gentlemen said, perhaps it's mounted to read-only
[13:10] <Mkools> obscurant1st: Are you asking for the ubuntu present on live cd or that is installed in hd.
[13:10] <guntbert> e-DIO-t: file/open tab is easiest
[13:10] <steelbox> Dr_Willis: it doesn't works for the other user
[13:11] <ech0Asus> have read forums 1000 times
[13:11] <Arti> arun__: yes i have with my usb drive ,i can format ore delete files form it,it is read only ,its some virus
[13:11] <obscurant1st> Mkools, installed in the HD
[13:11] <Emanon> Arti: sudo apt-get install dcfldd
[13:11] <Emanon> dcfldd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/whatever the usb is
[13:11] <obscurant1st> ?
[13:11] <steelbox> Dr_Willis: it worse than with me
[13:11] <e-DIO-t> guntbert:  i'm needing it in an sh ;)
[13:11] <Mkools> obscurant1st: That's karmic.
[13:11] <steelbox> grr
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> steelbox:  that is a bery bad sign then.. makes me wonder if theres not some deeper issues.
[13:11] <gottto> e-DIO-t: try   ctrl_page-up
[13:11] <guntbert> e-DIO-t: please read it up in man gnome-terminal
[13:12] <judgepg> johnyO: try fsck /dev/sdgX (where X is the partition)
[13:12] <obscurant1st> i told you to go for the step 5 from the link i gae right
[13:12] <ech0Asus> i don't understand why this is so complicated, there must be something in ubuntu thats conflicting because i'm not a complete idiot this is easy step by step guides all over the forums...
[13:12] <gottto> e-DIO-t: try   ctrl+page-up
[13:12] <obscurant1st> :|
[13:12] <steelbox> so now with these recent modifications
[13:12] <obscurant1st> Mkools, ^^
[13:12] <steelbox> It's worse than before
[13:12] <e-DIO-t> guntbert:, gottto -> actually done -> it should be gnome-terminal --tab-with-profile ...but it opens a new windows instead of a new tab
[13:12] <steelbox> I can't use my coomputer
[13:12] <obscurant1st> now anyway i dont know whether reinstaling can help you!
[13:12] <obscurant1st> give it a shot
[13:12] <steelbox> so, need a reinstall?
[13:13] <Mkools> obscurant1st: Now what to do?
[13:13] <ech0Asus> :( this sucks i want wifi and i refuse to do anything other then compile my own drivers
[13:13] <steelbox> Dr_Willis: and now?
[13:14] <Arti> judgepg:how can i change it from read only,it was all god before i gived to one frined the usb drive,i got some files there -autorun.inf ,e.cmd,  ophdin.com,they are surre some virus
[13:14] <ech0Asus> i bought an asus cause it had atheros chipset and now ubuntu wont let me use it!!!!!!
[13:14] <sjorsr> e-DIO-t: same problem here, i suppose it's a bug?
[13:14] <obscurant1st> Mkools, thats what i said, just try installing grub 2 now, boot from ubuntu live cd and mount the partition in which you have ubuntu 9.10
[13:14] <guntbert> e-DIO-t: aha ... would shift+ctrl+T work for you?
[13:14] <obscurant1st> the live cd you have is of karmic only right?
[13:14] <e-DIO-t> guntbert: i got to open a new tab in a shell script :)
[13:14] <obscurant1st> Mkools, ^^
[13:14] <Mkools> obscurant1st: Restart PC.
[13:14] <steelbox> tin, quelle bande de cons sur ubuntu
[13:14] <Mkools> obscurant1st: ^^ , what does this mean?
[13:14] <steelbox> aller bye les loosers
[13:15] <e-DIO-t> guntbert: automating log tailors for liferay, alfresco and cas ^_^
[13:15] <guntbert> e-DIO-t: I'm afraid there is a problem - the shell doesn't know it runs in gnome-terminal
[13:15] <e-DIO-t> sjorsr: dunno :°°° but it's quit unconfortable.
[13:15] <maxjezy> hi, my sound is not working, any ideas how to get it work without restarting ubuntu?
[13:15] <maxjezy> it was working last session
[13:15] <ech0Asus> i should switch to debian this is lame, have to read through 1000 pages of forums for every little issue or ask a chatroom with over 1000 people in it who are too busy to even respond to a txt..
[13:16] <obscurant1st> Mkools, just read the above lines -> ^^
[13:16] <guntbert> ech0Asus: your ranting won't get you anywhere - please drop that attitude
[13:16] <judgepg> Arti: just format it using gparted, and select ext3 filesystem (if you plan to use only under linux), or (NTFS/FAT if planning to use in windows as well).  Don't worry about the 'virus' on the usb key.  You're not using windows at the moment.
[13:17] <judgepg> johnyO: Did you get it working
[13:17] <sjorsr> ech0Asus: if you think ubuntu support is bad, i wish you good luck with the debian irc trolls :D
[13:17] <sjorsr> i'm not kidding, you'll get eaten alive in there.
[13:17] <Guest41172> how can i open a samba share in vlc
[13:17] <ech0Asus> there that got a response lol
[13:17] <Guest41172> the target is mythserver/home/dad/documents/video/file.avi
[13:18] <Guest41172> i just need the syntax
[13:18] <Arti> judgpeg: i cant format ,it says that is read only file,tried with gparted,disk utilitys, with rm --f comand to delete,but nothing didnt help
[13:18] <sjorsr> Guest41172: you'll probably have to mount the share first
[13:18] <ech0Asus> guys i got an issue.. ubuntu is being lame and refuses to let me compile and modprobe my ath9k drivers
[13:18] <Emanon> Arti: sudo apt-get install dcfldd
[13:18] <Emanon> dcfldd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/whatever the usb is
[13:18] <ech0Asus> i can compile it fine..
[13:19] <Guest41172> i can play the files with xbmc
[13:19] <ech0Asus> and it seems to modprobe just not actually be recongized by the machine
[13:19] <Guest41172> and with myth
[13:19] <Arti> emanon: i am trying that now
[13:19] <Guest41172> but would like to open directly with vlc
[13:19] <maxjezy> guys, anyone know how to fix sound, restart sound drivers or some?
[13:19] <maxjezy> it was working fine till now
[13:20] <ech0Asus> try installing alsa or tryin to mess with its configs
[13:20] <fabio333> !audio  |  <maxjezy>
 If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[13:20] <judgepg> Emanon: If gparted can't remove the existing partition, what do you think it could be
[13:20] <TheShavedWookie> nicklist screen
[13:20] <Emanon> ive had times gparted was being unresponsive but dcfldd seems to pretty much rape any partition doesnt really matter what the issue was
[13:21] <maxjezy> i got a dummy output only
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> judgepg:  you could use 'fdisk' to delete the partitions. it dont care if they are mounted or anythign else. :)
[13:21] <boymeetsworld> Greetingz, could someone tell me how can I install my drivers for my ati hd4330 graphics card? the proprietary ones.
[13:21] <Arti> Emanon: it dosent work
[13:22] <judgepg> Dr_Willis: yeah, you're right.  Good point
[13:22] <Emanon> then the write switch is on or the disk is actually broken
[13:22] <madjoe> how to !force Visual Effects to be remembered with Compiz Fusion Icon?
[13:22] <Arti> Emanon: dcfldd:/dev/sdb: Read-only file system
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> madjoe: it always rembers if i last turned them on/off here.
[13:22] <judgepg> Arti: is the FS mounted?
[13:22] <swine_> hi, i'm having some weird nat issues with vmware and virtualbox
[13:22] <swine_> internet access works but any google linkt hat i follow for instance leads me to webresults6.org
[13:22] <swine_> does anyone know wtf is going on ?
[13:22] <Arti> judgepg: yes it is mounted
[13:23] <peter____> what was the get command for conkey rc?
[13:23] <sjorsr> swine: is it a windows installation under vmware by any chance? ;)
[13:23] <judgepg> umount it, then try it again
[13:23] <guntbert> !language | swine_
[13:23] <madjoe> Dr_Willis: not at my Karmic... did you try to use Fusion Icon and switch from Compiz to Metacity, then log out and back in again?
[13:23] <sjorsr> if so, i guess you might have gotten some malware installed in said windows installation.
[13:23] <swine_> sjorsr, same thing with vmware and virtualbox in NAT mode
[13:23] <judgepg> Arti: umount it first, then try one of the utilities to remove the partition
[13:24] <sjorsr> yeah, but is it a windows installation?
[13:24] <sjorsr> and if so, does it happen with a *fresh* windows installation as well?
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> madjoe:  ive used it that way in the past. Im testing10.04 right now. so cant test it for you
[13:24] <Justin22885> anyone know where i can find an openwrt room?
[13:24] <sjorsr> because i have a gut feeling some malware's gotten into your browser, or possibly your hosts file
[13:24] <Justin22885> or anyone with openwrt knowledge?
[13:24] <madjoe> Dr_Willis: ok.. but anyway, it does not work as it suppose to
[13:25] <Arti> judgepg:ok
[13:25] <sjorsr> might want to check what the contents of %SystemRoot%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts is
[13:25] <obscurant1st> my GUI wont work after installing ati catalyst driver for radeon x2300, how can i remove and restor the GUI?
[13:25] <madjoe> Dr_Willis: when will be the final release of 10.04?
[13:26] <boymeetsworld> Greetingz, could someone tell me how can I install my drivers for my ati hd4330 graphics card? the proprietary ones.
[13:26] <gottto> Justin22885: does this help - http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenWrt/HomePage
[13:26] <sjorsr> boymeetsworld: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[13:26] <sjorsr> that *should* do it, i think.
[13:26] <Edgar_Allan_Poe> ls
[13:26] <Edgar_Allan_Poe> =)
[13:27] <swine_> sjorsr, yes, i mentioned
[13:27] <boymeetsworld> sjorsr,  this guide is updated? as in the latest driver version?
[13:27] <sate> How do you install Icon themes that are ziped instead of .tar?
[13:27] <swine_> sjorsr, it happens on a clean install
[13:27] <sjorsr> boymeetsworld: it's for 9.10, so that's pretty recent.
[13:27] <sate> trying to install this icon theme
[13:27] <sate> http://liliumcruentus.deviantart.com/art/The-Days-of-Grays-158652803
[13:27] <Arti> judgepg:it doesnt help
[13:27] <sjorsr> i'd give that one a try first, if it doesn't work we can see what goes wrong.
[13:27] <sjorsr> swine_: checked your hosts file?
[13:28] <boymeetsworld> sjorsr,  Thanks:)
[13:28] <sjorsr> inside the virtualized os that is.
[13:28] <gottto> sate: use unzip and put the folder in ~/.icons and it'll show up
[13:28] <swine_> sjorsr, on which system ?
[13:29] <sjorsr> the system that has the problems
[13:29] <sjorsr> if it's windows, check %SystemRoot%\system32\drivers\etc\host
[13:29] <dAnjou> hey there, does someone know some fancy graphical tools for managing sshfs mounts?
[13:29] <judgepg> Arti: try removing the USB key, confirm there are no read/write tabs on the key, plug it back in, and run a dmesg to check the output
[13:29] <sjorsr> %SystemRoot%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts even
[13:29] <Arti> judgepg:ok
[13:29] <guntbert> sjorsr: swine_ is running XP in the guest - as you were suspecting
[13:30] <swine_> sjorsr, what should i check the windowsxp hosts file for ?
[13:30] <sjorsr> put it this way, the problem is most likely not related to vmware/virtualbox or related network setup
[13:30] <sjorsr> see if there's an entry for google.com
[13:30] <obscurant1st> somebody pls help, my GUI is gone!! :(
[13:30] <sjorsr> or an entry that points towards that website it redirected to.
[13:31] <sjorsr> obscurant1st: did you try renaming your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[13:31] <sjorsr> that should reset your x configuration to it's default config (if you're using a recent distribution, so not 6.04 or something)
[13:31] <judgepg> Arti: once you plug it back in, if hal mounts the usb device, umount it and try using gparted again
[13:31] <obscurant1st> sjorsr, nop,e can i rename it to anything
[13:32] <sate> I still don't see the icon theme
[13:32] <obscurant1st> :o
[13:32] <Arti> judgepg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/407027/ this is report
[13:32] <sjorsr> yeah just rename it xorg.conf.old or something.
[13:32] <sate> gottto:  i don't see the icon theme
[13:32] <sjorsr> you were having driver issues right?
[13:33] <obscurant1st> sjorsr, yes
[13:33] <gottto> sate: it should be showing with the rest of 'em afaik - unless things have changed
[13:33] <obscurant1st> and btw there was not xorg.cong, but there were a xorg.conf.failsafe
[13:33] <sate> gottto:  ooops I messed up, that isn't a icon theme, its a regular theme
[13:33] <Arti> judgepg: this is all report of dmesg - http://paste.ubuntu.com/407028/
[13:33] <obscurant1st> i mean there is a xorg.cong.failsafe
[13:34] <sate> gottto:  where do I add the regular theme
[13:34] <gottto> sate: put it in ~/.themes
[13:34] <MrUnagi> how can i mass rename a sequence of files changing a space in the name to a '.'
[13:35] <judgepg> Arti: taking a look now
[13:35] <Emanon> MrUnagi: gprename?
[13:36] <Emanon> !info gprename
[13:36] <obscurant1st> sjorsr, you still there?
[13:36] <obscurant1st> :O
[13:36] <Arti> judgepg:ok
[13:36] <MrUnagi> cant do it with for i in filename etc etc?
[13:36] <sate> Thanks gottto :)
[13:37] <judgepg> Arti: Arti I'm seeing an entry for write protect being on.  Again, no h/w switches on the USB
[13:37] <gottto> MrUnagi: for f in *; do sed -e 's: :_:g'; done
[13:38] <MrUnagi> i wish bash made more sene to me
[13:38] <MetaPhaze> i'm looking for a command in ubuntu that will display all of the files installed by a package
[13:38] <MrUnagi> i dont know how the heck you figure that out
[13:38] <judgepg> Arti: try umounting, then mmount -o,remount /media/usbkey
[13:39] <visof> when i tried to scp file user@host:$HOME , i got scp: /home/visof: permission denied , what is that ?
[13:39] <jimbeam12_> hey all wonder if anyone could help me
[13:39] <visof> what should i do to fix that
[13:39] <sjorsr> obscurant1st: yes, sorry, but kinda busy inbetween checking irc
[13:39] <visof> i tried it with sudo and without it
[13:39] <visof> but the same
[13:39] <sjorsr> you didn't have an xorg.conf you said, right?
[13:39] <guntbert> !enter | MrUnagi
[13:39] <Arti> judgepg:ok i am trying
[13:39] <visof> i change permission for the file to 777
[13:39] <MrUnagi> ??
[13:40] <visof> also the problem i have
[13:40] <visof> is there anyone follow me
[13:40] <jimbeam12_> I have HD 5770  using Ubuntu 9.10 and the Catalyst 9.10
[13:40] <jimbeam12_> but command aticonfig --adapter=0 --od-setclocks=200,200
[13:40] <jimbeam12_> give me such rezult:
[13:40] <jimbeam12_> ERROR - Set clocks failed for Adapter 0 - ATI Radeon HD  Series
[13:40] <jimbeam12_> Please check that input values were valid
[13:40] <FloodBot1> jimbeam12_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:40] <visof> ?
[13:40] <MrUnagi> !enter | guntbert
[13:40] <cm_> visof: dont use sudo when u dont know what you are doing. actually its the destination folder (your home on destination host) which seems to not have the right permission.
[13:40] <judgepg> Arti: I'm running out of ideas, but it may be that the media might be bad.  Need to head out.  Try the USB on another machine
[13:41] <sate> gottto:  do they have a theme like this ?  http://bradwjensen.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Theme-Mockup-Dark-67903127
[13:41] <visof> cm_ so i should change that permissions ?
[13:41] <hellyeah> (ns identify muhhaha
[13:42] <Arti> i have tried in other machins that use windows,he has a lot of viruses there,i cant delete with Avast ore kasperski,they didnt help at all
[13:42] <gottto> sate: I don't know...
[13:42] <MetaPhaze> i'm looking for a command in ubuntu that will display all of the files installed by a package
[13:42] <hellyeah> sorry
[13:42] <guntbert> MrUnagi: it is very hard to read your question if it is spread all over the screen - if you state it in one "line" its much easier
[13:42] <jimbeam12_> can anyone assist me in this..   http://paste.ubuntu.com/407032/
[13:42] <peter____>  has quit  [R
[13:43] <cm_> visof: ah no, actually try to use: "scp file user@host:" . $HOME is probably expanded from local machine, dont use it. by default it goes to home folder anyway
[13:43] <UbuntuBoy> Hello
[13:43] <UbuntuBoy> I want to see how to remove completly remove Xfce and kde from my ubuntu Os
[13:44] <MetaPhaze> MrUnagi, you want to learn bash?
[13:44] <Arti> judgepg:do u know some terminal comand for usb dirve?
[13:44] <MrUnagi> eventually MetaPhaze lol
[13:45] <gottto> jimbeam12_: http://www.overclock.net/linux-unix/620328-how-get-ati-hd-5770-fully.html - should help
[13:46] <UbuntuBoy> wa hadrouuu a wladd lek7abbbb
[13:46] <MetaPhaze> http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ <-- MrUnagi
[13:47] <guntbert> UbuntuBoy: english please
[13:47] <UbuntuBoy> I want to see how to remove completly remove Xfce and kde from my ubuntu Os
[13:47] <MetaPhaze> MrUnagi, it's your best bash friend
[13:47] <MetaPhaze> i'm looking for a command in ubuntu that will display all of the files installed by a package
[13:47] <adac> just installed the network-manager-openvpn but for some reasons I can't save the vpn connection (button is always disabled for saving) any ideas
[13:47] <guntbert> !patience | UbuntuBoy
[13:47] <LordMetroid> Will Ubuntu be released tomorrow?
[13:48] <jimbeam12_> thx GotttO
[13:48] <guntbert> LordMetroid: #ubuntu+1 please
[13:48] <gottto> !puregnome > UbuntuBoy
[13:48] <LordMetroid> Ohh comeone
[13:48] <LordMetroid> It was a question of support for 10.04
[13:48] <gottto> jimbeam12_: nps
[13:48] <jimbeam12_> looking now
[13:48] <gottto> :)
[13:48] <guntbert> !lucid | LordMetroid
[13:49] <UbuntuBoy> i have a ubuntu but i want just remove cfce and kde
[13:49] <LordMetroid> thank you guntbert
[13:49] <boymeetsworld> Were is the broken filter for packages? i tried to install my ati driver using the ubuntu guide...and i restarted and got an eror warning me that one package is broken
[13:49] <szdani96> sziasztok
[13:49] <MC_> Can anyone help me about laptop to TV issue?
[13:49] <boymeetsworld> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI I used this guide.
[13:50] <guntbert> LordMetroid:    you're welcome :-)    (  thats what I said the first time too)
[13:50] <UbuntuBoy> give me french or morccan irc server
[13:50] <guntbert> !fr | UbuntuBoy
[13:52] <boymeetsworld> Can someone help me in this issue? i typed fglrxinfo in the terminal and instead of a working message is giving me a serious error....
[13:52] <boymeetsworld> :|
[13:53] <guntbert> boymeetsworld: as for the filte: look into synaptic : custom filters/broken
[13:53] <MetaPhaze> I'm looking for the tool in ubuntu that will tell me where each file from a package was installed, is there such a tool in ubuntu?
[13:53] <sjorsr> dpkg
[13:54] <jimbeam12_> grr still saying  error..noooo
[13:54] <sjorsr> MetaPhaze: dpkg
[13:54] <MetaPhaze> sjorsr, dpks -S does not work
[13:54] <MetaPhaze> so no
[13:54] <boymeetsworld> guntbert,  ok but how do i find out what package is broken and how to fix it?
[13:54] <UbuntuBoy> how to completly remove KDe from my ubuntu
[13:54] <sjorsr>   -L|--listfiles <package> ...     List files `owned' by package(s).
[13:54] <MetaPhaze> if that output is supposed to be complete i'd like to talk to the ubuntu supervisor
[13:54] <sjorsr> dpkg -L packagename
[13:54] <sjorsr> there you go.
[13:55] <boymeetsworld> guntbert,  i tried to install my ati card and ati catalyst...from this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[13:55] <guntbert> boymeetsworld: you see it in synaptic - the 2nd answer - sorry - depends too much on what happened
[13:55] <sjorsr> -S is used to find what package owns a specific file.
[13:55] <MetaPhaze> sjorsr, so your telling me that when i installed libois-1.2.0 there is no OIS.h installed?
[13:55] <sjorsr> -L is used to find which files belong to a specific package.
[13:55] <sjorsr> .h files are usually included in -dev packages.
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:56] <sjorsr> might want to try apt-get install libois-dev
[13:56] <leseric> i have mouse problem touchpad is not reacting on two fingers anymore in 10.04
[13:56] <boymeetsworld> guntbert,  i'm a new user  of linux so i can't know much stuff, i tried to install it did all the right steps restarted and when to test if the driver works, i typed in the terminal fglrxinfo and i get an eror
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | leseric
[13:57] <MetaPhaze> i'm glad i only compile software for ubuntu... this distro is for windows users for sure
[13:57] <UbuntuBoy> plaizzz help mee
[13:57] <MetaPhaze> UbuntuBoy, what do you need?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> MetaPhaze: i use it for an easy ride, i have a gentoo samba/transmission/backup server personally
[13:57] <UbuntuBoy> i want to completly remove kde from my ubuntu
[13:58] <guntbert> boymeetsworld: I have no experience with fglrx (my card is way too old) - I only had the one answer for you -- are you certain that your card is still supported by ATI?
[13:58] <boymeetsworld> If I install my graphic gard driver again would that solve the problem?
[13:58] <MetaPhaze> ActionParsnip, yeah, i'm a gentoo user
[13:58] <boymeetsworld> guntbert, it's an ati hd4330
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> MetaPhaze: people just want an os that works dude, thats why its taking off
[13:58] <boymeetsworld> guntbert,  i checked the pdf on ubuntu guide if my card is supported and yes it is.
[13:58] <MetaPhaze> UbuntuBoy, sudo synaptic enter kde into the quick search bar and uninstall all kde packages
[13:59] <MetaPhaze> ActionParsnip, people who know nothing about computers should not run them
[13:59] <UbuntuBoy> ok i this can remove kde completly
[13:59] <UbuntuBoy> ok
[13:59] <guntbert> boymeetsworld: doesn't tell me anything - my question was not if ubuntu supports your card but if ATI does so
[13:59] <boymeetsworld> guntbert,  did all the right steps and after restart i got an eror in the terminal when running fglrx ....and if i go to hardware drivers, it's installed...
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> MetaPhaze: should not run computers?
[13:59] <MetaPhaze> just like people that don't know how to drive cars, should not have licenses
[13:59] <guntbert> boymeetsworld: you sid that already - I cannot help you - sorry
[13:59] <boymeetsworld> guntbert,  that pdf is from ati
[13:59] <guntbert> *said
[14:00] <boymeetsworld> guntbert,  that pdf was issued by ati, as i told you they support it.
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> MetaPhaze: well its a great tool for lots of things and the os should make using it as simple as possible
[14:00] <guntbert> boymeetsworld:  I cannot help you - sorry
[14:00] <sjorsr> MetaPhaze: how about you quit trolling.
[14:00] <boymeetsworld> guntbert,  don't have to be sorry, thanks anyway. :)
[14:00] <rawler> MetaPhaze: there's a difference in knowing how to _drive_ a car, and how to assemble it from scratch.. drivers license (barely) just requires you to know how to drive it..
[14:01] <MetaPhaze> stop feeding the troll idiots
[14:01] <guntbert> MetaPhaze: please behave - stay polite - keep to the topic
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> MetaPhaze: unfortnately i do and i'm not going anywhere for about 18 hours so it depends how long the troll has to burn
[14:01] <andrew____> Why does Amarok skip the first 2-3 secs of a track? :/
[14:02] <MetaPhaze> ActionParsnip, i don't work anywhere but right here all day long so have at it i have all week, make that 24/7 365
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> hehe, its what usually gets troll, they get bored and shuffle away
[14:04] <rawler> crap.. LP read-only just got prolonged.. :S I just want to submit my patch and go play dragon-age! :S
[14:04] <MetaPhaze> i am not a troll, i'm a frustrated IT Guru
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> MetaPhaze: why frustrated?
[14:04] <jb0nd38372> Does ubuntu have any support for the logitech g15's lcd display?
[14:05] <costre> jb0nd38372, An lcd display needs special support?
[14:05] <MetaPhaze> ActionParsnip, trust me you don't want to see the list
[14:05] <guntbert> ActionParsnip: please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic with MetaPhaze
[14:05] <silv3r_m00n> how to unzip a file from terminal ?
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> guntbert: np man
[14:05] <costre> silv3r_m00n, apt-get install unzip
[14:05] <jb0nd38372> costre well I meant for the lcd on the keyboard it's self, for diosplaying cpu activity, mem usage etc.
[14:05] <costre> jb0nd38372, i see
[14:07] <mixy> ciaooo
[14:07] <guntbert> !it | mixy
[14:08] <boymeetsworld> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1443608 If someone is familiar with ati please reply to my topic. Thanks
[14:09] <hihihi100> hi there, can I use smuxi to access, lets say, icq?
[14:09] <costre> boymeetsworld, Tried envyNG?
[14:09] <boymeetsworld> costre,  ahh don't know what that is, i'm a newbie:)
[14:10] <costre> boymeetsworld, It solves many graphics driver issues, find it on google :)
[14:10] <boymeetsworld> costre,  as i said in the topic i followed exactly the stepts in the ubuntu guide and after restart....it won't work
[14:10] <hihihi100> how can I see a list of available smuxi rooms?
[14:11] <costre> boymeetsworld, I had several problems with my old ati card, but it was like a year ago. I think envy helped me a lot
[14:11] <boymeetsworld> costre,  hmmm i google it, i just have to know how to install it now:)
[14:11] <MetaPhaze> ok, so what packages do i need to install to get the open gl header files to compile my project against so i can spend less time wondering what your package system structure is and more time writing software?
[14:11] <guntbert> hihihi100:  on another network: irc.oftc.net -> #smuxi
[14:12] <costre> boymeetsworld, You can find it in ubuntu software center also
[14:12] <costre> boymeetsworld, Not synaptic
[14:12] <hihihi100> irc.oftc.net -> #smuxi
[14:12] <boymeetsworld> costre,  i installed it, will give it a try i hope it works
[14:13] <boymeetsworld> costre,  ahh doesn't start after i click on it:(
[14:14] <hcl2> what would stop me from logging in through gdm but cli startx works fine?
[14:14] <boymeetsworld> costre, i didn't get that error when removing the driver, i will try again and repeat the steps
[14:14] <MetaPhaze> hcl2, gdm not installed?
[14:15] <boymeetsworld> costre,  thanks
[14:15] <hcl2> gdm is installed, i type in username/password and it changes colors a few times then takes me back to gdm
[14:15] <MetaPhaze> hcl2 bad hal config?
[14:16] <norm_> join #ubuntu
[14:16] <guntbert> norm_: you are alrady here :)
[14:16] <guntbert> *already
[14:17] <M0DCM_Dave> Can someone suggest which version of Ubuntu would be best for a 900MHz, 256Mb system that I'm building for my niece?
[14:17] <MrSunshine> hmm, when trying to run the updater program i get errors when it tries to download the sources, how can i fix this? :/
[14:17] <MetaPhaze> ok, is there an ubuntu setup for the developer?
[14:17] <hcl2> M0DCM_Dave: the version that comes with more ram
[14:17] <makkalot> hi what is the max resolution that vesa driver supporrts ?
[14:18] <LinuxGuy2009> Im in 9.04 and have a bunch of my ripped DVDs in mp4 format in /home/videos. Thumbnails arent showing. How do I get them to show?
[14:18] <M0DCM_Dave> hahahaha wished the motherboard would take more than 256mb
[14:18] <MetaPhaze> MrSunshine, what errors are you getting?
[14:18] <guntbert> hcl2: what did you just tell M0DCM_Dave ?
[14:18] <MrSunshine> MetaBot, "failed" it says in the download list
[14:18] <M0DCM_Dave> Would Xubuntu work?
[14:18] <MrSunshine> and it stops then i get something about some sources not reachable
[14:18] <gottto> M0DCM_Dave: xubuntu would be the best bet
[14:19] <M0DCM_Dave> cheers, I'll get cracking on the machine for her
[14:19] <guntbert> !requirements | M0DCM_Dave
[14:19] <Crepy> Does anyone know how to get tor working with lynx
[14:20] <Crepy> Everywhere there are text "Lynx will work with tor", but maybe im blind
[14:20] <Crepy> Havent found any information about configuring
[14:21] <boymeetsworld> costre, wow thanks so much  i fixed the problem
[14:21] <boymeetsworld> costre, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI one more thing, If i installed only the drivers from the hardware drivers do i need to go with the other steps?
[14:21] <costre> boymeetsworld, did envyNG help at all? :)
[14:21] <MrSunshine> W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[14:22] <MrSunshine> etc etc
[14:22] <MrSunshine> also
[14:22] <boymeetsworld> costre,  yes, very mcuh
[14:22] <costre> nice
[14:22] <boymeetsworld> costre, i am so gratefull to you, thanks from the deep of my heart, now i have the effects runing too:P
[14:23] <costre> boymeetsworld, Heh, no problem :)
[14:23] <boymeetsworld> costre,  and i managed to install flash for amd64 too, works like a charm:)
[14:23] <costre> boymeetsworld, Been there :D
[14:23] <firmW_> how do I install last version of jdk on my computer?
[14:23] <boymeetsworld> costre,  do i need to take the other steps from here?https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI i only did the first thing with the hardware drivers.
[14:24] <pupuser10fee6> firmW_ ,lol
[14:24] <costre> boymeetsworld, what steps did you take?
[14:24] <Azh> hey guys can I get a shared internet connection from ubuntu running firestarter to connect to to the wan on my wireless router with a network cable?
[14:24] <pupuser10fee6> doesn't java dead yet?
[14:25] <pupuser10fee6> s/dead/die
[14:25] <boymeetsworld> costre, Installation of the fglrx Driver from the Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Repositories
[14:25] <Azh> anyone?
[14:25] <pupuser10fee6> is karmic the codename?
[14:26] <Azh> anyone at all?
[14:26] <costre> boymeetsworld, You sohuldn't need to, it's just two different drivers. You could try the catalyst one, but if things work, I'd stick to it
[14:26] <Azh> does anyone know the answer?
[14:26] <sipior> Azh: it's considered polite to give folks a few minutes to respond to your question.
[14:27] <Azh> oh sorry, sipior
[14:27] <costre> boymeetsworld, Have you tried real gl effects, like the screensavers etc?
[14:27] <boymeetsworld> costre, well i checked in applications>other and catalyst control center is working from there
[14:27] <boymeetsworld> costre, I don't know how.
[14:28] <costre> boymeetsworld, Nice, but have you checked that GL is fluid? Try to run the screensavers and see if they are smooth
[14:28] <sjorsr> run glxgears
[14:28] <sjorsr> that should show if you have proper hardware acceleration straightaway.
[14:28] <FeasibilityStudy> anyone here have experience building .debs
[14:28] <costre> or do as sjorsr said :)
[14:28] <sipior> Azh: this guide might help you, if i interpret your question correctly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[14:29] <sjorsr> also: glxinfo | grep direct
[14:29] <_GoRDoN_> Hi! Is it possible to emulate 64bit system on 32bit hardware with virtualbox=
[14:29] <guntbert> _GoRDoN_: ask in #vbox please
[14:29] <erUSUL> _GoRDoN_: no
[14:29] <sjorsr> it is not, no.
[14:30] <Azh> oh yeah, i've looked through there, couldn't find why when i connect to wan in the router it doesnt get an internet connection
[14:30] <boymeetsworld> costre,  the screen savers work fine:)
[14:31] <costre> boymeetsworld, Then go ahead and download warsow, nexuiz or alienarena :D
[14:31] <boymeetsworld> costre,  I will do that right, now, I want to get some fun on my laptop today:D
[14:31] <boymeetsworld> costre,  know other good games?
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> boymeetsworld:  'freecol'  is my fave.
[14:32] <costre> there are lists online :) I'm not much for gaming ... HDvideo and surroundsound is my game :)
[14:32] <boymeetsworld> Dr_Willis, oooooooo wow wow wow, it's beautiful I just checked it out right now on google thanks
[14:33] <sjorsr> pah
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> boymeetsworld:  if you like the old sid meirs colonization game. Freecol is that game enhanced. :)
[14:33] <sjorsr> real men play tuxracer.
[14:33] <sjorsr> the best 3d linux game.
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> sjorsr:  theres that one tux game where you drive around in hovercraft also.. i forget its name
[14:33] <sjorsr> oh god
[14:33] <boymeetsworld> Dr_Willis,  Yes that's why i was amazed :P
[14:33] <sjorsr> that was terrible
[14:33] <overmind> sjorsr: Tremulous is better :P
[14:33] <boymeetsworld> tux racer?:D
[14:33] <MetaPhaze> real men play nwn, the best linux 3d game
[14:33] <freazor> hey can anybody in here help me ? when i start ubuntu it says maybe my laptop battery is damaged or old and when i use  any software and minimize or maximize it, it crashed .. what can I do ?? :( .. it crashes even when i start firefox or other programs ... i updated it already.. i dont know what to do.. someone please help me :(
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> boymeetsworld:  also check out the 'python game of the week' web site
[14:33] <sjorsr> mmmyeah
[14:34] <sjorsr> but tuxracer is the game i always used to test my hardware acceleration.
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> it takes a real man toi manage to get NWN even installed...
[14:34] <boymeetsworld> tux racer is hallarious :))
[14:34] <MetaPhaze> http://mystrixonline.com for the best nwn experience
[14:34] <sipior> freazor: this happens even when the laptop is plugged into the wall?
[14:34] <overmind> Supertuxcar
[14:34] <boymeetsworld> Dr_Willis,  thanks for suggestions!
[14:34] <freazor> sipior:  yes .. when its plugged in
[14:35] <sipior> freazor: what laptop are you running on?
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> boymeetsworld:  thers also a (not in the ubuntu repos) program called djl (dlj?) thats like a Open source steam clone that installs a lot of games (to the users home dir) that are often not inthe repos also.
[14:35] <freazor> sipior: dell latitude D600
[14:36] <mhall119> freazor: try turning off compiz (Desktop effects)
[14:37] <sipior> freazor: is this a dual-boot system? if so, does the other operating system experience similar troubles?
[14:37] <freazor> sipior: how can i do this ? can i do it in the terminal?
[14:37] <boymeetsworld> Dr_Willis,  do you have a website for it?
[14:37] <freazor> sipior: yes it is a dual-boot system.. winxp makes no troubles
[14:37] <mhall119> freazor: you can disable compiz from the terminal by running "metacity --replace &"
[14:38] <mhall119> freazor: did you use WUBI, or make a separate partition for Ubuntu?
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> boymeetsworld:  delicious.com/dr_willis in my links somewhere.. or google for djl or dlj & linux
[14:38] <boymeetsworld> Dr_Willis,  thanks:)
[14:39] <freazor> mhall19: yes i made a seperate parition with 9gb for it
[14:40] <student> i am getting a boot error with GNU GRUB.  anybody know anything?
[14:40] <sjorsr> i'm sure someone knows something.
[14:41] <sjorsr> !ask | student
[14:41] <freazor> damn how can i go to the terminal ? :( so i can do .. metacity --replace &
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> freazor:  terminal icon in the menus?
[14:41] <sjorsr> freazor: under gnome it's application->accessories->terminal
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> or alt-f2
[14:41] <Dr4g> Hey guys - how to extend my desktop onto my second monitor ?
[14:42] <freazor> ah ok sorry found it.. ok i replaced it now
[14:42] <freazor> (i turned it off now)
[14:42] <freazor> will it be off after my next reboot too ?
[14:42] <MetaPhaze> this is ridiculous ... i give up on ubuntu, there will be no release of my game to ubuntu... thanks... bye
[14:43] <sjorsr> don't let the door hit you on the way out.
[14:43] <terry_>  freazor You can also do: Ctrl Alt F6
[14:43] <sjorsr> 'cause i don't want assprints on my new door.
[14:43] <sipior> what was his problem, exactly?
[14:43] <sjorsr> being a jerk
[14:43] <terry_> freazor: What version of Ubuntu did you install?
[14:43] <freazor> the newest version from the ubuntu.com homepage
[14:43] <freazor> i downloaded it yesterday
[14:43] <freazor> then i updated and upgraded it
[14:44] <freazor> i will try to run firefox now.. if it crashes again.. i will come back after reboot
[14:45] <mypcwontstart> I'm getting "mount of root filesystem failed" after following this tutorial http://www.ubuntugeek.com/rescue-an-encrypted-luks-lvm-volume.html what should I do next? Any help would be kindly appreciated!
[14:45] <terry_> freazor: 9.10 is what you installed?
[14:46] <terry_> freazor: Did you do updates yet?
[14:46] <freazor> yes i did
[14:46] <student> instead of the system (Ubuntu 9.10) booting, i get screen showing GNU GRUB version 1.97~beta4.  I get options to load Ubuntu normally, load in recovery mode, or do a memory test. No matter what I choose, the system freezes. My only solution so far has been to reload Ubuntu.
[14:46] <freazor> after i turned off compiz everything works better now :)
[14:46] <dyzio> www
[14:46] <freazor> it didnt crash yet :)
[14:46] <mypcwontstart> .
[14:46] <mypcwontstart> ubuntu
[14:46] <mypcwontstart> .
[14:46] <mypcwontstart> com
[14:46] <FloodBot1> mypcwontstart: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:47] <guntbert> student: did it work before?
[14:47] <freazor> will compiz stay off when i reboot ??
[14:47] <freazor> or do i have to turn it off each time ?
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> it should rember
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> of couirse. :)
[14:47] <mypcwontstart> I'm getting "mount of root filesystem failed". So, after following this tutorial http://www.ubuntugeek.com/rescue-an-encrypted-luks-lvm-volume.html what should I do next? Any help would be kindly appreciated!
[14:48] <freazor> it will stay off ? :)
[14:48] <Dr_Willis> freazor:  try it and see
[14:48] <freazor> hehe ok
[14:49] <freazor> can someone tell me how to install my D-Link AirPlus DWL-G650+ Pcmia Card in Ubuntu ??
[14:49] <freazor> sorry im a newbie :(
[14:50] <arabica> who isn't?
[14:50] <boymeetsworld> I'm trying to install catalyst control center after the ubuntu guide and i get...Errors were encountered while processing:xorg-driver-fglrx_8.712-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[14:50] <boymeetsworld> What should I do in this case?
[14:50] <mypcwontstart> Why doesn't anyone help me out? I can't even get my computer started. Pretty please could someone help?
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> mypcwontstart:  you are using a LVM?
[14:51] <KRiMoRaL> I have a 32bit installation on an external HDD that I can move from computer to computer, but my main computer is a 64bit. Can I use a 64bit version of Ubuntu, and have it work when I plug it into a 32bit computer?
[14:51] <mypcwontstart> Dr_Willis, yes
[14:51] <tsyj2007> boymeetsworld: you are sure you have installed ubuntu-64
[14:51] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007, as in an operating sistem? ubuntu amd 64 version?
[14:51] <tsyj2007> yes
[14:52] <tsyj2007> boymeetsworld: yes
[14:52] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  yes i'm shure...
[14:52] <tsyj2007> you can use ubuntu software center
[14:52] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  i run ubuntu amd 64 version for my t4300 intel processor:)
[14:52] <tsyj2007> boymeetsworld: you can use ubuntu software center
[14:53] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  ubuntu software center for catalyst control center?
[14:53] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  ohh works:D
[14:53] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  thanks:P
[14:54] <mypcwontstart> Dr_Willis, are you there?
[14:55] <KRiMoRaL> I think my question got passed in the middle of the boymeetsworld session
[14:56] <mypcwontstart> I'm getting "mount of root filesystem failed". So, after following this tutorial http://www.ubuntugeek.com/rescue-an-encrypted-luks-lvm-volume.html what should I do next? Any help would be kindly appreciated!
[14:56] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  I have succesfully installed it but can't run it under administrative...only the normal session works
[14:57] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  i have 2 sub menues created in the applications>other sections...one is normal and one has(administrative)
[14:57] <tsyj2007> boymeetsworld: yes ,it is a bug
[14:57] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007, Failed to execute child process "amdxdg-su" (No such file or directory) that;s what i get only when I run the (administrative) if not, works fine..
[14:57] <unixp> hi, what must i adjust if on every boot the screen solution scales to 640x480 instead of 1920x1080?  I use the nvidia graphics driver for my MX440
[14:58] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  what can i do? :| I can't modify everything with that normal session
[14:58] <tsyj2007> boymeetsworld: mine does'not work too
[14:58] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  :|
[14:58] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  so it's a global bug?
[14:59] <tsyj2007> boymeetsworld: but I think you can run harddrive
[14:59] <tsyj2007> boymeetsworld: in system->admin->
[14:59] <Kito>  Color your life! Visit www.VortexIRC.com Or check out our irc with irc.VortexIRC.com Port 6667. Why should I do this? => We need more active chatters otherwise it's getting bored :( .See you!
[14:59] <Gibby> Morning everyone, I have a problem, I had 64bit 9.10 installed for the past 3 months, for a number of reasons I wanted to go to 32bit, so I backed everything, downloaded the latest iso, and installed with no problems, how ever when it boots I get nothing the little Ubuntu circle then just a black screen. So I thought it was b/c my swap was 8g and I had 4G Ram installed, so I went to a 2G Swap file and 1G ram still nothing, after about a dozen installs, I dec
[14:59] <tsyj2007> boymeetsworld: and ,i think it works
[15:00] <mypcwontstart> I'm getting "mount of root filesystem failed". So, after following this tutorial http://www.ubuntugeek.com/rescue-an-encrypted-luks-lvm-volume.html what should I do next? Any help would be kindly appreciated!
[15:00] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  I didn't got that, didn't understand to well...it works yes but not with administrative things
[15:00] <LucidGuy> brain fart math question.  Doing simple performance tests and trying to figure how much faster one system is over the other, percentage wise.  Eg. SysA completes in 24 seconds and SysB completes in 37 seconds.  SysA is faster but by how much percentage wise?
[15:00] <guntbert> !ot | LucidGuy
[15:00] <tsyj2007> boymeetsworld: I think it is not important
[15:00] <LucidGuy> I know .. just such a simple question for most of you.
[15:01] <yolanda> hola+
[15:01] <Gibby> LucidGuy, 13% I believe
[15:01] <yolanda> hola
[15:01] <LucidGuy> Gibby, how did you come to that?
[15:01] <yolanda> no se...lo he visto y he hentrado
[15:02] <greg606> hi
[15:02] <erUSUL> LucidGuy: ( 37/24 - 1  ) * 100
[15:02] <Gibby> LucidGuy, hold on forgot something
[15:02] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  yup, and also i got a guy for firewall and enabled it to deny....do i need to get also an antivirus or anything else?
[15:02] <yolanda> como te llamas
[15:02] <yolanda> ?¿
[15:02] <greg606> I have no keyboard after 10.4 update :(((( Help please
[15:02] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  Gufw 9.10.4...
[15:02] <tsyj2007> boymeetsworld: in linux
[15:02] <yolanda> a que me voy..
[15:02] <yolanda> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[15:02] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  yes:) in linux
[15:03] <sipior> greg606: that's a beta version of ubuntu, try in #ubuntu+1
[15:03] <tsyj2007> boymeetsworld: in linux,no antivirus is needed
[15:03] <ardchoille> !es | yolanda
[15:03] <greg606> sipior: I want to use 10.4
[15:03] <LucidGuy> erUSUL, that would give me 54% faster .. that doesnt sounds right.
[15:03] <yolanda> hello
[15:03] <sipior> greg606: your keyboard appears to feel differently.
[15:03] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  only Gufw 9.10.4 for firewall?
[15:03] <guntbert> !lucid | greg606
[15:03] <KRiMoRaL> I have a 32bit installation on an external HDD that I can move from computer to computer, but my main computer is a 64bit. Can I use a 64bit version of Ubuntu, and have it work when I plug it into a 32bit computer?
[15:03] <yolanda> how are you?
[15:03] <tsyj2007> boymeetsworld: linux is safe
[15:03] <sipior> LucidGuy: it is correct.
[15:03] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  you don't need but  firewall to run?:)
[15:03] <yolanda> ok
[15:04] <yolanda> no
[15:04] <yolanda> thank
[15:04] <erUSUL> LucidGuy: it is right ( 24 * 0.5717 ) + 24 = 37
[15:04] <Gibby> Morning everyone, I have a problem, I had 64bit 9.10 installed for the past 3 months, for a number of reasons I wanted to go to 32bit, so I backed everything, downloaded the latest iso, and installed with no problems, how ever when it boots I get nothing the little Ubuntu circle then just a black screen. So I thought it was b/c my swap was 8g and I had 4G Ram installed, so I went to a 2G Swap file and 1G ram still nothing, after about a dozen installs, I dec
[15:04] <khem_> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0471:1237 Philips TalkTalk SNU5630NS/05 Wireless Adapter
[15:04] <tsyj2007> boymeetsworld: I also don't have firewall
[15:04] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  if i got that gui and enabled it to deny will I be safe on the internet
[15:04] <yolanda> i from seville
[15:04] <khem_> i dont get this device to work in ubuntu
[15:04] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  :)
[15:04] <ardchoille> | !ot | yolanda
[15:04] <brainproxy> i need to increase the ulimit for open files for a non-root user; but running ulimit -n ### as root only changes it for root
[15:04] <mypcwontstart> how do you start ubuntu from the maintenance shell?
[15:04] <lucy2> hi
[15:04] <ardchoille> !ot | yolanda
[15:04] <tsyj2007> boymeetsworld: don't be worry
[15:04] <LucidGuy> erUSUL, hmm ..
[15:04] <yolanda> your name?
[15:05] <khem_> what module should i be using for Philips TalkTalk SNU5630NS/05 Wireless Adapter
[15:05] <khem_> ?
[15:05] <guntbert> Gibby: that was an unfounded assumptiom about too much ram and swap
[15:05] <boymeetsworld> tsyj2007,  ok thanks so much:D
[15:05] <Gibby> guntbert, I figured I would just do that, then enable PAE and go back to 4G Ram
[15:05] <lucy2> i want to request a packete from commity. how can i do it
[15:05] <yolanda> hello?
[15:05] <amikrop_> Hello, I have a DELL Latitude D820 and Bluetooth doesn't work (I can't send or receive files). When I do an lsusb I get "Bus 002 Device 005: ID 413c:8103 Dell Computer Corp. Wireless 350 Bluetooth". Any help, please?
[15:05] <unixp> hi, what must i adjust that the screen solution not automatically adjust to 640x480 on every boot instead of 1920x1080?  I use the nvidia graphics driver for my MX440
[15:05] <ardchoille> yolanda: Please take off-topic chat to another channel
[15:06] <yolanda> italked in spanish
[15:06] <guntbert> Gibby: btw what means "latest iso" ?
[15:06] <costre> boymeetsworld, tsyj2007 speaks the truth. Unless you're a retard and get fooled by sites masking as other sites, you have little to worry about :)
[15:06] <Gibby> guntbert, I have so many ISO's, I just went a downloaded a new one, also I am using the Alternate installer
[15:06] <yolanda> i don't understand?
[15:07] <costre> yolanda, This channel is for ubuntusupport only
[15:07] <lucy2> i want to request a packete from commity. how can i do it
[15:07] <LucidGuy> erUSUL, so you are saying 37 is about 54% largers then 24?
[15:07] <hcl2> amikrop_: xrandr -s 1920x1080  then https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Setting xrandr changes persistently
[15:07] <guntbert> !md5sum | Gibby (and I asked for the ubuntu version)
[15:07] <boymeetsworld> costre, well I see but was scared because I heard about a lot of script kiddiez using scanners to crack into machines and install shells on it, psybnc and etc..
[15:07] <boymeetsworld> :)
[15:07] <yolanda> hello
[15:07] <Gibby> guntbert, 9.10
[15:07] <costre> lucy2,  You mean like Synaptic Manager?
[15:08] <amikrop_> hcl2: I assume this wasn't for me.
[15:08] <MrSunshine> hmm, when getting the kernel sources, where do they end up ?
[15:08] <lucy2> no i want a packege which ubuntu doent official support.
[15:08] <guntbert> Gibby: then the md5sum check still applies
[15:08] <hcl2> amikrop_: yep, sorry.  i meant unixp
[15:08] <yolanda> chao
[15:09] <Gibby> guntbert, k, I will have to figure out to do that in Windows, 1 sec
[15:09] <costre> lucy2, There are thousands .... Google it :) If you find a software that has a *.deb-file, you can install it as usual
[15:09] <lucy2> costre, i want a packege which ubuntu doesnt support officaly
[15:09] <KRiMoRaL> if i install 64bit on my external, will it still work if i plug it into a 32 bit machine?
[15:09] <lucy2> costre, ppc
[15:09] <yolanda> fungo hello
[15:09] <sipior> KRiMoRaL: it won't, no.
[15:10] <costre> KRiMoRaL, Odds are slim it will work even iof they both are 32-.bit
[15:10] <e-DIO-t> KRiMoRaL: guess no!
[15:10] <hcl2> amikrop_: gnome or kde? or how are you trying to send bt files?
[15:10] <fungo_> Disconnected (Connection reset by peer) why?
[15:10] <mhall119> lucy2: you want a package made for PPC, or you want Ubuntu ported to PPC?
[15:10] <boymeetsworld> Dr_Willis,  I got freecol, the tar.gz precompiled, extracted it but how do i start it?
[15:10] <costre> lucy2, PowerPC?
[15:10] <yolanda> hola mi nombre es yolanda
[15:10] <KRiMoRaL> it works currently with 32 bit, but my main is a 64, so i wanted to take advantage of it
[15:10] <lucy2> package for ppc
[15:10] <erUSUL> LucidGuy: yes
[15:10] <KRiMoRaL> but have it still work when i move it
[15:11] <lucy2> costre, package for ppc
[15:11] <lucy2> costre, package for ubuntu on ppc
[15:11] <mhall119> lucy2: is the source package in Ubuntu's repos?
[15:11] <sharat87> hello, I installed capistrano with 'gem install capistrano', but when I issue the 'cap' command, i get this error: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/195979/ . I learnt from #capistrano that this might be an ubuntu specific issue.. anybody know how to fix this?
[15:11] <amikrop_> hcl2: gnome. from the icon on the panel. right click - send files: I find the bt enabled cellphone but can't send to it
[15:11] <lucy2> mhall119,  yes
[15:12] <lucy2> mhall119,  launch pad
[15:12] <hcl2> amikrop_: are you pairing with the phone properly?
[15:12] <amikrop_> hcl2: what do you mean pairing?
[15:12] <yolanda> no
[15:12] <amikrop_> phone has bt enabled (to be sent)
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> boymeetsworld:  you do realize that freecol is in the package manager?
[15:12] <mhall119> lucy2: then you can "apt-get source $packagename" and "apt-get build-dep $packagename", then compile it yourself for PPC
[15:12] <yolanda> yes
[15:12] <amikrop_> hcl2: but sending a files from the laptop fails
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> boymeetsworld:  no need to use the tar.gz at all
[15:12] <mhall119> assuming the code compiles on PPC
[15:13] <yolanda> ok
[15:13] <KRiMoRaL> If I install the 10 beta, when the lts releases, will it upgrade, or will I have to install the new version?
[15:13] <hcl2> amikrop_: is your phone set to be discovered, and does the PC notify you that it found a new device and asks for a PIN?
[15:13] <amikrop_> hcl2: maybe I should check if bt is enabled at all in my pc?
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> KRiMoRaL:  you can upgrade.. thats a priomary feature of the package manager system. :)
[15:13] <boymeetsworld> Dr_Willis,  yeah but an older version
[15:13] <amikrop_> hcl2: it is set to be discovered and I don't get notified no
[15:13] <sipior> sharat87: do you have the libopenssl-ruby package installed?
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> boymeetsworld:  read the docs - it tells the command. i doubt if theres much differance in the new vs older version
[15:13] <boymeetsworld> Dr_Willis,  and on the website there is a newer version
[15:13] <lucy2> mhall119, im gonna try
[15:13] <hcl2> amikrop_: from a console, dmesg | grep tooth
[15:13] <sharat87> sipior: will check
[15:14] <hcl2> it shoudl say something about HCI initialized
[15:14] <boymeetsworld> Dr_Willis,  i read them it sais you need Java Virtual Machine version 1.5.0 or above...in order to start with the game
[15:14] <sharat87> sipior: no, shall I install it?
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> boymeetsworld:  yes. You do need java installed. its a java game.
[15:14] <sipior> sharat87: might be a good start :-)
[15:14] <amikrop_> hcl2: it has several lines
[15:14] <sharat87> ok, doing it now :)
[15:14] <KRiMoRaL> last question, when i start ubuntu 9.10, there are the options at the bottom of the login screen, the ones that say gnome and gnome safe, is there a way to add kde to that menu? i'm relativly new to linux, and would like have the option of floating back and forth without have to do a whole lot of un-understadable configuring :/
[15:15] <boymeetsworld> Dr_Willis,  i should get it from the java website? the newest version?
[15:15] <amikrop_> hcl2: many things initialized
[15:15] <hcl2> HCI device?
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> KRiMoRaL:  if you install kubuntu-desktop it adds kde to that menu
[15:15] <hcl2> L2CAP and RFCOMM ?
[15:15] <mhall119> boymeetsworld: openjdk and sun-java are in Ubuntu's repos
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> boymeetsworld:  no.. USE THE package Manager...
[15:15] <hcl2> if so, then you probably have bluetooth enabled on your pc
[15:15] <unixp> hcl2,  could i also enter the screen solution just in the xorg.conf?
[15:15] <KRiMoRaL> Dr_Willis: will it also still have gnome?
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> boymeetsworld:  you are falling back to your windows habbits... :)
[15:15] <lucy2> mhall119,  it downloading some thing
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> KRiMoRaL:  of course.
[15:16] <unixp> hcl2, so that it boots every time with that?
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> KRiMoRaL:  you caninstall a dozen ddesktops/window managers and most add a proper entry to that menu
[15:16] <boymeetsworld> Dr_Willis,  well not really but the ubuntu software center doesn;t have the latest things updated..
[15:16] <hcl2> unixp: i think so, that's what the wiki says.  you can make the xrandr changes permanent by adding them to xorg.conf.  cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.working first
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> boymeetsworld:  dont worry about the latest of everything.
[15:16] <guntbert> !latest | boymeetsworld
[15:16] <lucy2> mhall119,  i hope anyproblem wont be happed
[15:16] <boymeetsworld> Dr_Willis,  sorry....
[15:16] <sharat87> sipior: perfect, that worked like a charm, thanks a lot :)
[15:16] <sipior> sharat87: no trouble
[15:16] <KRiMoRaL> awesome! other than gnome, which i love, and kde (which looks cool), are there any other main ones of note worth checking out?
[15:16] <boymeetsworld> Dr_Willis,  thanks
[15:16] <amikrop_> hcl2: yes, all of these you mentioned
[15:16] <amikrop_> they're there
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> boymeetsworld:  ubuntu updates the disrto every 6 mo.. so every \6mo basically everything gets updated to the current version
[15:17] <mhall119> boymeetsworld: the Java packages in Ubuntu are java 6, if your game only needs java 5, you'll be fine
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> boymeetsworld:  sudo apt-get install freecol should install the java needed and the version from the repos.
[15:17] <amikrop_> hcl2: phone tried to recognize the laptop and I was prompted (to the laptop) for a PIN and I got it right
[15:17] <andrew____> Any suggestions for an app to re-encode audio files, and place them in folders based on tag info?(arist etc)
[15:17] <boymeetsworld> Dr_Willis,  ok i will try it:D
[15:17] <andrew____> I used dbpoweramp on Windopws
[15:17] <amikrop_> hcl2: but when I try to actually send files either from phone or laptop they can't even find each other
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> andrew____:  you proberly need to use one tool to reencode.. then a differnt one to sort.
[15:18] <andrew____> Dr_Willis: Ah, then any suggestions?
[15:18] <hcl2> strange, it sounds like they paired just fine.  maybe they paired the wrong way.  which device asked you for the pin?
[15:18] <sipior> andrew____: have a look at SoundConverter
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> andrew____:  nope. I dont bother with reencoding music. it alwyas makes it worse for the most part
[15:18] <andrew____> Because alll I want is to do \home\music\Metallica\black album\01.Metallica - Sad But True.wma
[15:18] <andrew____> Type thing
[15:19] <wangbo> exit
[15:19] <freazor> can anyone tell me how to install a driver for my pcmia card in ubuntu?
[15:19] <andrew____> Dr_Willis: I got all my music at 192kb/s wma at the moment, that's adequate for a 2.1 10w system I'm sure
[15:19] <hcl2> amikrop_: sudo hcitool conn
[15:20] <fabio333> it's a sad day when you get all your music as wma
[15:20] <dr4g> Hey guys - I'm trying to get a cool theme for my ubuntu desktop installation. I've tried a few different things. .emerald files and such it just tells me "unable to open file".
[15:21] <dr4g> Can someone suggest what i'm doing wrong ?
[15:21] <andrew____> fabio333: Blaahh.. Well you're talking about like 40gb of music here, it'd take forever to reget all that
[15:21] <amikrop_> hcl2: Connections:
[15:21] <amikrop_> hcl2: and nothing else
[15:21] <dr4g> I'm on this link http://www.techiesouls.com/2008/11/27/collection-of-50-best-looking-linux-gnomeubuntu-themes-to-download/
[15:21] <dr4g> I clicked on this theme from that link; http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Mira?content=89831
[15:21] <michael_> where is that ubuntu page that warns about alot of the commands to not enter?
[15:22] <hcl2> amikrop_: do you know the name of the program that shows the bt icon in the taskbar (i don't have it and it's hard to follow along w/o it)
[15:22] <boymeetsworld> Dr_Willis,  the game works now thanks only one thing, i have no sound, i tested my sound and it works fine but in the game nope:(
[15:23] <amikrop_> hcl2: Bluetooth Properties 2.28.1
[15:23] <mhall119> boymeetsworld: java has some issues with PulseAudio
[15:23] <lucy2> mhall119,  that finish what i have to do now
[15:23] <amikrop_> hcl2: I don't know thw name of the executable or the package.
[15:23] <amikrop_> It is in gnome-bluetooth I guess
[15:23] <mhall119> lucy2: look for instructions for compiling
[15:23] <boymeetsworld> mhall119,  and is there a soulution? the game totaly rocks:(
[15:23] <lucy2> mhall119, u mean cmake make and make install ?
[15:24] <mhall119> or, you can run "apt-get source --compile $packagename" I think
[15:24] <Roasted> Question - Why is it if I'm on a wireless network, close my laptop, and leave, and flip my laptop open again, that it still tries to connect to that old wifi network miles and miles away (which I expect) but then when it can't connect, it asks me for the password. I know the network manager doesn't forget the password, because if I cancel it, go back to the wifi network, it connects fine. But I'm just kinda wondering why NM asks for the password if the SSID
[15:24] <Roasted>  is out of range.
[15:24] <mhall119> boymeetsworld: I had to play around with my pulseaudio settings before it would work, I don't remember which change did it though
[15:24] <dr4g> what should happen when i double click on a .emerald file ??
[15:24] <dr4g> -
[15:24] <khem_> in what package do i find pupscan?
[15:25] <mhall119> boymeetsworld: you will probably need to install some extra pulse audio tools, they're in the repos
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> !find pupscan
[15:25] <khem_> hmm
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> whats pupscan anyway?
[15:25] <mhall119> yeah, I don't see pupscan either
[15:26] <boymeetsworld> mhall119, the pulse audio device choiser?
[15:26] <amikrop_> hcl2: so, any ideas? :)
[15:26] <mhall119> boymeetsworld: something like that, yes
[15:26] <boymeetsworld> mhall119,  or pulse audio preferences?
[15:26] <boymeetsworld> mhall119,  the second sounds more suitable:)
[15:26] <mhall119> get both and try them out
[15:26] <boymeetsworld> mhall119,  ok thanks
[15:27] <khem_> Dr_Willis: something that will help me detect drivers to my gprs edge usb card
[15:27] <khem_> i cannot get it to work
[15:27] <hcl2> amikrop_: hold on
[15:27] <lucy2> mhall119, http://pastebin.org/129419
[15:27] <hcl2> it's package gnome-bluetooth app bluetooth-applet
[15:27] <boymeetsworld> Ohh and another thing, even if freecol installed my java , i can get java browser games to work, why?
[15:27] <Guest93761> Hi, i need help, is there any way in ubuntu to reveal pppoeconf's connection details like the password? i forgot it and can't restore it :(
[15:28] <khem_> !find gkdial
[15:28] <fine_line> quit
[15:28] <mhall119> boymeetsworld: java games?  you sure they're not flash games?
[15:29] <fine_line> quit
[15:29] <boymeetsworld> mhall119,  yes they are java...i can pm you the site...
[15:29] <mhall119> lucy2: you'll need to talk to the package maintainers and/or developers then
[15:29] <tmkt> Hey Hey, quick Q - I have an ATI Radeon 2100, what driver should i be using "radeon" or "ati"? the reason I ask is because the 2 left pixels on my screen are a purple line all the way down
[15:29] <mhall119> they're compiling it for x86 specific instruction sets
[15:30] <mhall119> which won't work on PPC
[15:30] <mhall119> boymeetsworld: no need, I believe you
[15:30] <lucy2> ok thanks
[15:30] <hcl2> amikrop_: same problem here.  I can find the phone, enter the PIN, but when I send files to my phone it times out
[15:30] <tmkt> or is this not related to that, and to something else?
[15:30] <lucy2> mhall119, ok yhanks
[15:30] <mhall119> lucy2: if you're lucky, those are optimizations you can live without
[15:30] <jungingen> exit
[15:30] <mhall119> if you're unlucky, it'll require code changes before it will compile for PPC
[15:30] <boymeetsworld> mhall119,  :) thank you, i'm not an advance user but trust me it's java, the aplets on the website do not start..they remain grey....
[15:31] <sebuba> Hello
[15:31] <mhall119> boymeetsworld: wait, so were java games working before or not?
[15:31] <boymeetsworld> mhall119,  nope :)
[15:32] <alessio_> ciao
[15:32] <boymeetsworld> mhall119,  java games weren't working, because i didn;t had java, now i have it i think because i installed freecol from the terminal and it got java too because it is a java game:)
[15:32] <Roasted> Question - when I suspend my computer that was on a wifi network and travel miles away and open it back up, my laptop tries to re-connect to the other SSID I was just on. That's normal. Okay, fine. But why does network manager come up asking for the password to an SSID out of range? Is there a reason for this? I know it doesn't forget the PW, cause if I cancel and go back to the network I was just on, I connect fine.
[15:32] <Guest93761> please, can anyone answer me, i'm desperate :(
[15:32] <mhall119> boymeetsworld: you'll need to restart Firefox to know if it installed the java browser plugin too
[15:33] <alessio_> !list
[15:33] <mreh> how do I quickly set my environment variables for all my terminals? I would normally stick them in .bash_profile
[15:33] <arabica> java is out of fasion nowadays
[15:33] <mreh> it doesn't seem to work
[15:33] <mreh> arabica: is it?
[15:34] <arabica> maybe
[15:34] <mhall119> mreh: ~/.profile would work
[15:34] <mreh> I don't use it, but I wouldn't say that
[15:34] <arabica> flash is the next
[15:34] <boymeetsworld> mhall119,  restarted but not working, firefox says down" start:applet not initialized."
[15:34] <mreh> arabica: flash what?
[15:34] <sipior> arabica: mreh: that's nonsense.
[15:34] <mreh> oh, for web content
[15:34] <arabica> adobe flash
[15:34] <arabica> it's real in history
[15:34] <sipior> arabica: mreh: also, off-topic :-)
[15:34] <S0cr4t3s> I have a small Ubuntu 9.10 virtualization cluster using KVM and virtio.  One two of the VMs, NSCD and rpc.mountd will randomly lock 100% of the CPU.  There is no log generated or errors reported.  strace reports the following endlessly "poll([{fd=11, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLERR|POLLHUP}, {fd=-1}, {fd=-1}], 3, -1) = 1 ([{fd=11, revents=POLLNVAL}])"  Thoughts?
[15:34] <mhall119> boymeetsworld: did you install sun-java6 of openjdk-6?
[15:34] <tmkt> guessing my problem is a modeline problem?
[15:35] <boymeetsworld> mhall119,  no....
[15:36] <mhall119> sorry, s/of/or
[15:36] <boymeetsworld> mhall119,  i don't know what freecol installed...
[15:36] <mhall119> Ubuntu has 2 java packages, one from sun, one from openjdk
[15:36] <arabica> openjdk is not free completely
[15:36] <mhall119> boymeetsworld: what does "update-alternatives --list java" give you?
[15:36] <boymeetsworld> mhall119,  i checked ubuntu software center and i have installed open jdk java 6 webstart  and java 6 runtime
[15:37] <mhall119> arabica: yes it is
[15:37] <arminn> hi all. Can anybody tell me , why ubunu found's only 3,2Gb of memory ( must be 4 Gb ) ?????
[15:37] <mreh> so I have to re-login to set the envvars? ". ~/.profile" works obviously, but I thought a new terminal window would execute .profile, or is that login shells only?
[15:37] <arabica> no, when you want to compile it by source
[15:37] <boymeetsworld> mhall119, /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java
[15:37] <sipior> arminn: you running a 32-bit install?
[15:37] <mhall119> boymeetsworld: try "apt-get install icedtea6-plugin" then
[15:37] <Admin_> arminn only 64-bit will show all 4 GB
[15:37] <overmind> arminn: If you haven't got sound and graphic card, ubuntu will use ram memory as sound/graphic card's memory
[15:37] <S0cr4t3s> arminn,  32-bit Ubuntu?  That is normal, can't address more memory that that.  Need 64-bit Ubuntu to see all 4 gigs
[15:38] <arminn> Ohh
[15:38] <mhall119> arabica: what do you mean?
[15:38] <overmind> S0cr4t3s: Interesting
[15:38] <arabica> see the openjdk website
[15:38] <wensleydale> Hello all. Does anyone know when you logout using TTY (ctrl+alt+f1) what the best way to log back in is? When I type "exit", sometimes I have to log back in again. Im on xubuntu 9.04 by the way..
[15:38] <boymeetsworld> mhall119,  installed, when i went to that browser it told me that i need to addons, and i installed the firest, restarted the browser but the second addon it didn't suggested me no more:(
[15:38] <guntbert> wensleydale: alt+F7
[15:39] <S0cr4t3s> wensleydale, CTRL-ALT-F7
[15:39] <mhall119> arabica: Ubuntu's package uses patches from IcedTea to let you build it using open source code
[15:39] <S0cr4t3s> wensleydale, you can also use ALT-RIGHT and ALT-LEFT to switch between your ttys
[15:39] <arabica> uhh icetea = chinese
[15:39] <wensleydale> S0cr4t3s ok will try it here goes..
[15:40] <mhall119> arabica: icedtea is a RedHat project
[15:40] <Crepy> Yep, it was simple... I forgot to add one address to config
[15:40] <arabica> redhat is another m$ for me
[15:40] <mhall119> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IcedTea
[15:41] <arminn> It possible to update my ubunu ( i686 )to x64 version ?
[15:41] <mhall119> arabica: then you are confused
[15:41] <mhall119> arminn: I don't think so, no
[15:41] <arabica> no, i am lucid as a baby
[15:41] <guntbert> arminn: only with a reinstall
[15:41] <sipior> arabica: that's a very unusual expression.
[15:41] <arminn> thanks 4 answers
[15:42] <guntbert> !ot | arabica
[15:42] <Franklin> Hi
[15:42] <chx>  hi. i wrote this udev rule: ATTRS{idVendor}=="0421", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0042", SYMLINK+="nokia" (lsusb says Bus 006 Device 011: ID 0421:0042) but i dont get a /dev/nokia symlink when i plug in.
[15:43] <wensleydale> hmm, maybe Ive not asked the right question.. when I press ctrl+alt+f1 it logs me out to a terminal screen, which is very handy. Then to get back to desktop I usually login once then type "exit", but sometimes I have to do this twice or three times.. any ideas for a command to take me straight back to desktop?
[15:43] <Franklin> Anyone has installed ubuntu on old PC's?
[15:43] <frxstrem> Franklin: yeah, I've done it (if you consider a PC from 2001 old)
[15:43] <mhall119> wensleydale: Ctrl+Alt+F7 usually gets you back to your desktop
[15:43] <soreau> chx: Do you get any device node at all?
[15:43] <arabica> i f i answer you, ubotu will say i am off-topic
[15:44] <Franklin> older than 2001
[15:44] <mhall119> ubottu didn't say it, guntbert said it
[15:44] <allu2> i only debian on pentium 2 300mhz with 256mb ram and now 40gb hd, works like charm on base system only
[15:44] <chx> soreau: yes. i get /dev/ttyACM<some increasing number here>
[15:44] <guntbert> wensleydale: I told you - no command - you didn't log out at all - you just switched to a so called "virtual terminal" - and you switch back witg alt+F7
 ok will try it
[15:44] <guntbert> *wth
[15:44] <chx> soreau: the very problem is that i need to edit /etc/ppp/peers/fido every time i plug in because the ACM number is growing :)
[15:44] <Mkools> What is meant by this error: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error
[15:44] <guntbert> *with :-/
[15:44] <frxstrem> Franklin: I believe I did it on an older PC too (from <1998), and I think it mostly worked (except for a few driver issues)
 oh yep youre right
[15:45] <mhall119> Mkools: possibly that you're trying to chroot into an incompatible environment
[15:45] <soreau> chx: Ah yes, that would suck. I guess the growing number is a driver bug
[15:45] <Flynsarmy> Anyone have experience running pulseaudio on win7?
[15:45] <mhall119> like x86 to x86_64
[15:45] <iceroot> Flynsarmy: ##windows
 oh i seeee.. its good to know these things. thankyou all! bye
[15:45] <chx> soreau: might be but for little me writing an udev rule seemed to be an easier route than fixing the driver.
[15:45] <Flynsarmy> iceroot, as pulseaudio is a linux thing, it's far more likely linux ppl would have experience doing it than windows people
[15:45] <mhall119> I don't think PulseAudio is avalable on Windows
[15:45] <Mkools> mhall119: I have done it before it ran .
[15:45] <Franklin> well, i will try to install easypeasy, but still don't know if the MoBo is supported
[15:46] <Mkools> mhall119: How to solve it.
[15:46] <frxstrem> Is there a way to change the file association for files (like .mp4) from the standard associated program to another program, like VLC?
[15:46] <guntbert> wensleydale: you're welcome :-) and have fun
[15:46] <mhall119> Mkools: no idea
[15:46] <chx> soreau: i can read ASM and C code just fine but i wrote neither in this century so i'd be wary jumping into a driver code.
[15:46] <iceroot> Flynsarmy: and this is #ubuntu, not #linux, not #pulseaudio and not ##windows :)
[15:46] <soreau> chx: yea, well maybe try #udev if you cant get it
[15:46] <avegas> hi there, I'm seeing my bandwidth on apt connections to http://us.archive.ubuntu.com degrade rapidly, I'm not sure if it is an intranet problem or not, I'm in a mostly windows office
[15:46] <avegas> anyone have any suggestions on how to troubleshoot?
 cheers bye
[15:47] <Flynsarmy> iceroot, pulseaudio is the default on ubuntu and ubuntu has a very large community. there was a substancially higher possibility of actually finding someone helpful on this channel.
[15:47] <Franklin> the guys in #easypeasy told me maybe, but first ask on ubuntu
[15:47] <khem_> http://pastebin.com/248pitWr
[15:47] <mhall119> Flynsarmy: does PulseAudio even run on WIndows?
[15:47] <khem_> how can i get my edge gprs usb card to work in ubuntu?
[15:47] <khem_> the pastebin is my lspci -nn
[15:47] <boymeetsworld> mhall119,  anyother suggestions?
[15:48] <frxstrem> does anyone know how to change the file association for a file type?
[15:48] <Flynsarmy> mhall119, yes according to wikipedia. also on the PA website it points to here http://www.cendio.com/pulseaudio/ but they don't work on 7
[15:48] <Franklin> the file assoc or the program to read it?
[15:48] <Mkools> Can anyone please tell how to solve problem: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error
[15:48] <mhall119> boymeetsworld: install sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin
[15:48] <mhall119> Flynsarmy: it's unlikely anyone here has ever tried
[15:49] <mhall119> so you might have better luck in either ##windows (which has a lot of Linux users in it), or directly with PulseAudio
[15:49] <Flynsarmy> mhall119, this is the channel i used to find out about the windows port in the first place a year ago - someone had already done it and was showing me how :) thanks anyway
[15:49] <avegas> Mkools, import w.r. stevens
[15:49] <keyvan> so i installed compiz-settings-manager… and i enabled a plugin called "reflection". this froze my entire system… and when i startup and gnome loads, it freezes again. no idea what to edit to disable reflection or compiz.
[15:50] <keyvan> its not the ~/.config/compiz/config file
[15:50] <chx> soreau: so that rule should be fine?
[15:50] <soreau> keyvan: chmod -x /usr/bin/compiz.real
[15:50] <mhall119> keyvan: it's in gconf most likely
[15:51] <mhall119> if you can get to ctrl+alt+f1, run: "DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace &"
[15:51] <Mkools> avegas: ?
[15:51] <soreau> keyvan: Do that from recovery mode, reboot normally, go in and change the setting, then run the same command with +x to re enable it
[15:51] <keyvan> ok so i can boot the livecd and then do chmod -x on compiz.real. this makes it so compix cannot be booted?
[15:51] <mhall119> keyvan: try getting to ctrl+alt+f1 first
[15:51] <keyvan> ok cool
[15:51] <keyvan> im going to print this chat log and try it out. anything else i should be aware of?
[15:51] <mhall119> if you can do that, you can run metacity instead of compiz long enough to change the settings in compiz-config-settings-manager
[15:51] <soreau> keyvan: Let me guess, intel graphics?
[15:52] <keyvan> soreau: its a macbook. not sure what chipset it is……. let me see
[15:52] <mhall119> reflection uses pixel shaders I think, which isn't always supported on older or low-end gpus
[15:52] <soreau> mhall119: X freezes when compiz starts so he cant login
[15:52] <unixp> hi, what can i do if the wordpress installation stops at part 2 (password award). Only a blank screen is coming... where can i find the generated password?
[15:52] <boymeetsworld> mhall119,  installed but still doesn't work:(
[15:52] <soreau> Its a driver bug
[15:52] <boymeetsworld> mhall119,  restarted the browser....before trying
[15:52] <mhall119> boymeetsworld: I'm not sure then, that's what i did
[15:53] <keyvan> soreau: yep intel GMA X3100
[15:53] <boymeetsworld> mhall119,  thanks for your help I will try to search again for more info maybe post on the forums:)
[15:53] <mhall119> soreau: does GDM run compiz?
[15:53] <soreau> keyvan: Yea just make compiz not executable then turn of reflection and reenable it
[15:53] <mhall119> if it's only compiz freezing, he should be able to ctrl+alt+f1
[15:54] <keyvan> mhall119: im pretty sure it just clusterfucks the whole graphics driver
[15:54] <WhiteDawn> the bug is fixed in 9.04 and 10.01 beta
[15:54] <mhall119> keyvan: in that case, do the chmod -x trick
[15:54] <keyvan> i literally cannot do anything. only way to turn off the comp is holding power for 5 seconds
[15:54] <keyvan> yep gonna try that now
[15:54] <Mkools> avegas: What did you mean?
[15:54] <keyvan> thanks a bunch
[15:55] <mhall119> keyvan: make sure you chmod -x the file on the HDD, not the liveCD's copy
[15:55] <ohe> hi guys
[15:55] <khem_> could somebody please help me with me gprs/edge usb stick im Ubuntu, please?
[15:55] <Crepy> Is there a way to start filebrowser from console (in directory, what youre looking at) ?
[15:55] <keyvan> mhall119: yep. ty.
[15:56] <ohe> i'm testing lucid lynx and i encounter a little glitch as for karmic
[15:56] <DaZ> Crepy: nautilus . ? :f
[15:56] <keyvan> by the way, i changed the GRUB timeout to 0… so is there some key i can hold down to enter recovery mode ? or am i better off using livecd?
[15:56] <ohe> the battery of my ibook g4
[15:56] <ohe> is not natively detected
[15:56] <mhall119> Crepy: "nautilus ."
[15:56] <avegas> Mkools, mostly that that was insufficient information for anyone to be able to help you
[15:56] <sipior> Crepy: try "gnome-open ."
[15:56] <sipior> Crepy: that works on all sorts of files, by the way, not merely directories.
[15:57] <ohe> i would like to fill a bug for that but don't know how since i don't know the package responsible of that
[15:57] <hackel> I want to recursively check every file in one directory to see if an identical copy exists in another directory, and if so delete it.  Any ideas how to go about this?
[15:57] <chipcat> can somebody tell me why my eeepc is slow when i run backtrack4
[15:57] <Crepy> Thanks for the answers
[15:57] <Mkools> avegas: basically I am following instructions for repairing grub2 from livecd on : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[15:57] <mhall119> hackel: identical file name, or identical content?
[15:58] <hackel> mhall119:  Both
[15:58] <mhall119> sounds like a job for perl
[15:58] <mhall119> or python
[15:58] <Crepy> I hope you understood what i mean. Im going to example Documents folder by using terminal. But i would like to start same folder where i am, with filebrowser
[15:58] <Mkools> avegas: I am not able to go into chroot, but once I have done that.
[15:59] <Mkools> avegas: But with live cd of 64 bit
[15:59] <sirlark> Hi, I'm having trouble installing bugzilla3 on karmic; /var/lib/dpkg/info/bugzilla3.postinst: Configuration of bugzilla3 failed. Please check if the system requirements are fulfilled. How do I do this?
[15:59] <Crepy> by nautilus it will give a little error, and opens home folder, and gnome-open you have to write the path
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> theres somne 'dupe' finder tools in the repos.. but ive not used them in ages
[15:59] <sirlark> and where does it install?
[16:00] <chipcat> does someone here have experience whit backtrack
[16:00] <kokozedman> hey guys
[16:01] <kokozedman> how do i connect to a shared forlder on Ubuntu?
[16:01] <kokozedman> i tried the username and password for the account in the ubuntu, and it didn't work
[16:01] <kokozedman> what am i missing?
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> shared how?
[16:02] <mhall119> did you set the password with "smbpasswd $username"?
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> you could add a samba password for the user with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'
[16:02] <chipcat> nobody??
[16:02] <Martiner> Hello, is there any software for creating flash animations in ubuntu/linux? I googled and came up with nothing that seems likely...
[16:02] <kokozedman> well, i haven't done that ... i just right-clicked a folder, and chose the Sharing option
[16:02] <kokozedman> i didn't know i neede to do that
[16:02] <kokozedman> thanks for letting me know
[16:02] <mhall119> Martiner: you might be able to get the Adobe products to work under Wine
[16:03] <mhall119> otherwise I think it's pretty limited
[16:03] <AJW256> photoshop works nicely
[16:03] <AJW256> idk bout anythin else
[16:03] <mhall119> I think there are tools to make like a flash slideshow of image files
[16:03] <Martiner> Yeah, I read about getting those to work, but seems like a real hazzle according to winehqś app listings
[16:03] <AJW256> all I did was install wine & run the setup
[16:03] <mhall119> Martiner: probably is, send Adobe an email letting them know you'd like a Linux client
[16:04] <WhiteDawn> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=23 flash 8 seems to work fine in wine
[16:04] <PowerZUbuntu> hmm
[16:04] <PowerZUbuntu> lol
[16:04] <kokozedman> yeah! it works now! :D
[16:04] <chipcat> i need help to change my kernel. is this possible for eeepc ??
[16:04] <kokozedman> thanks a bunch
[16:04] <PowerZUbuntu> Woah. XChat for Ubuntu. First time ever logging onto ubuntu
[16:04] <PowerZUbuntu> not bad :)
[16:04] <mhall119> chipcat: change it how, and to what?
[16:04] <arabica> is eeepc off-topic?
[16:04] <Martiner> Thanks, Ill try that :)
[16:05] <mhall119> arabica: eeepc is hardware
[16:05] <arakthor> arabica, not if it's an ubuntu question :p
[16:05] <arabica> grrr
[16:05] <chipcat> no eeepc is a notebook from asus
[16:05] <fungo_> Disconnected (Remote host closed socket) what's the problem?
[16:06] <arabica> if i don't want to buy a eeepc, am i offtopic?
[16:06] <mhall119> arabica: what are you getting at?
[16:06] <mhall119> chipcat: change it how, and to what?
[16:07] <fungo_> OR Disconnected (Connection reset by peer)?
[16:07] <roly> hola cibernautas
[16:07] <rbellamy> what's the proper channel for discussing linking library support files to c code?
[16:07] <guntbert> !es | roly
[16:07] <mhall119> hola roly
[16:08] <mhall119> rbellamy: /msg alis help
[16:08] <chipcat> i'm a beginner linux user and need a little help. does someone have some time for mee plz?
[16:08] <mhall119> chipcat: change it how, and to what?
[16:08] <mhall119> last time I'm asking
[16:09] <chipcat> what do you mean mhall119
[16:09] <ninjai> what do you need help with chipcat?
[16:09] <mhall119> chipcat: you asked if you can change your kernel
[16:10] <ninjai> ahhh
[16:10] <l_r> since the last upgrade firefox is blocking the connections to localhost on port 8123. i d like to know how to re enable them.
[16:10] <chipcat> i have installed a linux distro to my eepc but its very slow.
[16:10] <chipcat> i have been reading that the cause might be the kernel. is this possble
[16:10] <ninjai> firstly you need to download the kernel source from apt-get
[16:11] <ninjai> could be, depending how it's configured
[16:11] <ninjai> get the kernel source code with this: apt-cache search linux-headers
[16:11] <ninjai> then
[16:11] <mhall119> chipcat: what distro did you install?
[16:11] <mhall119> and version
[16:11] <ninjai> find the one that matches the output of uname -a
[16:11] <chipcat> bt4
[16:11] <nu2linux> Hello all of you vitamin d deprived people
[16:11] <rbellamy> mhall119: that did not help me... the page at ubuntu.org said this is the best place to start for general help. As well, it mentions there are channels for help with development, but fails to mention specifics.
[16:11] <mhall119> chipcat: eeebuntu provides a kernel custom-compiled for EeePC hardware
[16:12] <rbellamy> mhall119: so, coming here to ask what channel I should be in for dev questions seemed like a general enough question.
[16:12] <ninjai> then shouldn't it be working? I dunno about htis eebuntu... i used to have ubuntu installed when i had an eepc and it was regular ubuntu... and it worked fine!
[16:12] <Myrtti> !backtrack
[16:12] <chipcat> ok but i still dont understand how to change it i follow all the instuctions on google but nothing.
[16:12] <mhall119> rbellamy: try #ubuntu-dev then
[16:12] <rbellamy> and asking alis list ubuntu did not return anything, and alist list #ubuntu just listed this channel
[16:13] <rbellamy> mhall119: perfect, thank you...
[16:13] <nu2linux> So I just installed Ubuntu onto my laptop and I am wondering or I should say asking what else should I do I want to be able to watch Youtube videos
[16:13] <mhall119> rbellamy: alis list uses wildcards
[16:13] <khem_> could somebody please help me with me gprs/edge usb stick im Ubuntu, please?
[16:13] <mhall119>  /msg alis list #ubuntu-*
[16:13] <rbellamy> mhall119: aha, thanks
[16:13] <erUSUL> rbellamy: alis list '*ubuntu*'
[16:14] <mhall119> nu2linux: go to Add/Remove (or Software Center, depending on Ubuntu version), and search for "flash player"
[16:14] <nu2linux> Mhall119 I have 9.10 ubuntu
[16:14] <mhall119> nu2linux: System->Administration->Add/Remove Applications
[16:15] <theadmin> mhall119: Uh, wrong.
[16:15] <mhall119> theadmin: it is on mine
[16:15] <theadmin> nu2linux: either system - admininstration - synaptic package manager or applications - Ubuntu software center.
[16:15] <mhall119> nu2linux: the package you want is "Adobe Flash plugin"
[16:15] <jetienne> q i got a usb key with ubuntu cd on it, how can i know which version it is ?
[16:15] <khem_> Bus 002 Device 008: ID 0471:1237 Philips TalkTalk SNU5630NS/05 Wireless Adapter
[16:15] <khem_> this is the device i cannot get to work
[16:15] <mhall119> theadmin: is it called "Ubuntu software center" in 9.10?  Mine still says "Add/Remove Applications", but I upgraded from 9.04
[16:16] <chipcat> ninjai are you still there??
[16:16] <theadmin> Yay XD i wrote a URL shortener in bash
[16:16] <theadmin> mhall119: Yeah i had that problem
[16:16]  * mhall119 is doing a clean install of 10.04 when it comes out
[16:16] <ChildOfGod> I can connect to the internet via pppconfig. i can ping www.google.com, but firefox says that internet is not connected. What is the problem? How to tell Gnome which interface to use?
[16:16] <ChildOfGod> ubuntu 9.10
[16:16] <mhall119> ChildOfGod: are you using a proxy?
[16:16] <ChildOfGod> nope.
[16:17] <ChildOfGod> i can ping www.google.com
[16:17] <nu2linux> ok mhall119 what am I looking for when I get to synaptic manager
[16:18] <theadmin> mhall119: I'll go for a clean install too :D
[16:18] <mhall119> nu2linux: flashplugin-nonfree
[16:18] <researcher1> may I ask for recommendation on which is better in performance for computer lab management ? VNC or italc?
[16:18] <mhall119> theadmin: I do that ever couple releases, just to clean up my harddrive
[16:19] <theadmin> researcher1: No idea who italc is, VNC is pretty well known
[16:20] <mhall119> italc is a school/lab management program, it's pretty good I hear
[16:20] <nubuntu> hello
[16:20] <theadmin> nubuntu: Hi there
[16:20] <mhall119> researcher1: if you want help with italc, ask in #edubuntu
[16:20] <nu2linux> What would happen if I click on all of them
[16:21] <nubuntu> how i install alsa then terminal?
[16:21] <nubuntu> Can i?
[16:21] <mhall119> nu2linux: it would isntall a bunch of stuff you probably don't need
[16:21] <khem_> [ 3029.284188] zd1211rw: probe of 2-1:2.1 failed with error -32
[16:21] <martianlobster> can I run skype on ubuntu?
[16:21] <mhall119> martianlobster: yes
[16:21] <khem_> i get this error when i try to initalize the driver for my edge/gprs usb driver
[16:21] <martianlobster> mhall119:   thanks,  I will start googling that now
[16:21] <nu2linux> I am also excited that I here according to my friend who got me on this Ubuntu that there are options to make the windows on a cube
[16:22] <Tommy\DO> Hi. I just upgraded to lucid on my netbook and now my touchpad shows the annyoing behavior that the pointer is suddenly appearing on the screen where I point my finger on the touchpad. How can I turn that off?
[16:22] <nu2linux> how do you do that ?
[16:22] <nubuntu> I dont know install alsa "terminal"
[16:22] <rbellamy> mhall119: thanks for the direction, they got me pointed in the right direction
[16:23] <mhall119> nu2linux: try pressing ctrl+alt+right_arrow
[16:23] <nu2linux> It changed to another desktop but no cube
[16:24] <VoJe> hello! What is the easiest way to assign programs to certain workspaces?
[16:24] <nu2linux> I can't wait till I learn everything about this Ubuntu
[16:24] <AJW256> nu2linux: System -> Preferences -> CompizConfig
[16:24] <AJW256> under desktop
[16:24] <AJW256> desktop cube
[16:24] <WhiteDawn> nu2linux: well ubuntu is a great place to start, probraly the most newbie friendly linux, and a huge community. Hope you have fun!
[16:24] <ihernandez> hello. does someone here implemented network authentication + nfs to have a central /home and user database for all the office desktops?
[16:25] <domedagen> How do I uninstall Heroes of Newerth(not apt-get installation)?
[16:25] <erUSUL> ihernandez: #ubuntu-server
[16:25] <ihernandez> thanks erUSUL
[16:25] <deegen> ihernandez: Yes.
[16:25] <erUSUL> domedagen: find out if the installer has a --uninstall or --remove option ?
[16:25] <fungo_> any recommendation for personal wiki softwares?
[16:25] <theadmin> domedagen: non apt-get like from deb package or from installer or from source?
[16:25] <ihernandez> deegee, what worked better? openldap + nfs? kerberos?.
[16:25] <nu2linux> Yes he gave a bunch of these "what he call live cd" and Ubuntu seemed pretty cool sounding so I went with that one
[16:26] <ihernandez> deegee, documentations doesn't looks straightforward
[16:26] <domedagen> theadmin from source
[16:26] <theadmin> domedagen: Just do "sudo rm -rf installdirectory"
[16:26] <nu2linux> There was one that had mint in it
[16:26] <nu2linux> and then there was another one wait let me get them
[16:26] <fungo_> hi,all ,any recommendation for personal wiki softwares?
[16:26] <domedagen> theadmin: ok thanks
[16:26] <WhiteDawn> nu2linux: live cd's are very handy to keep around, they make great recovery/emergency disks for all operating systems, not just linux.
[16:26] <researcher1> is it possible to reply to a particular persons nick to keep communication focused?HOW?
[16:26] <mhall119> mint is a derivative of Ubuntu, it has it's own artwork and includes extra packages
[16:27] <theadmin> fungo_: wiki on a stick is not bad, but it won't run on a regular server, it's kinda for local use only
[16:27] <domedagen> theadmin how do I know what "directory" it is?
[16:27] <deegen> ihernandez: I'm using openldap + nfs with pretty good success.
[16:27] <mhall119> researcher1: use their name in your reply, it'll highlight your message in most clients
[16:27] <theadmin> domedagen: it usually is somewhere in /opt or /usr/local
[16:27] <domedagen> ok
[16:27] <WhiteDawn> researcher1: you can private message them with /msg <usrname> but if you put their name followed by semicolins like i did for you, then it will highlight the message]
[16:27] <nu2linux> Ok he gave me Simply Mepis, Opensusu, xubuntu and one thts say linux mint
[16:28] <theadmin> researcher1: Uh, put the nick in front of message?
[16:28] <johnnyCbad_> Anyone here using Rhthembox on Lucid Beta 1? Need to ask something
[16:28] <theadmin> nu2linux: Opensuse, not susu
[16:28] <nu2linux> Opensuse sorry I misspelled that one
[16:28] <fungo_> theadmin:just for personal use
[16:28] <tt_> hey is there any application launcher built in? like can i hit a hot key and type cal enter to go to calculator
[16:28] <researcher1> ok.Thanks
[16:28] <ihernandez> deegee, perfect. so your users can use ldap users on login? sounds great
[16:28] <theadmin> johnnyCbad_: #ubuntu+1 for Lucid support
[16:28] <theadmin> fungo_: Should do for ya
[16:29] <researcher1> whee can I expect a guidance and tutorial on NIS?
[16:29] <WhiteDawn> nu2linux: Simply Mepis, xubuntu, Mint, and ubuntu are all great starting distros. Try em all if you feel like it, see which one you like the best. If you want a summary of different distros and to see their popularity, distrowatch.com is a great website.
[16:29] <deegen> ihernandez: Yes, all the users are in an ldap server. PAM checks against it. Everyone can sit at any machine, get all their stuff.
[16:29] <theadmin> WhiteDawn: "starting"? I think Ubuntu is good for normal users, too, not only for newbies
[16:29] <fungo_> theadmin:tks
[16:29] <nu2linux> By the way when I installed Ubuntu did the process confiq to my pc and prechoose my drivers that I need or not
[16:30] <ihernandez> deegee, thanks a lot. really what i wanted!
[16:30] <tt_> hey is there a launcher program I can get or is there anything built in where i can type what I want and it will be launched?
[16:30] <deegen> ihernandez: Your welcome.
[16:30] <WhiteDawn> theadmin: well there great for all uses, but ubuntu and the like are very newbie friendly because of how they manage programs and their very nice community
[16:30] <deegen> *You're
[16:31] <nu2linux> I will WhiteDawn
[16:31] <ZykoticK9>  tt_ alt+f2 ?
[16:31] <theadmin> WhiteDawn: Oh, community. I love Ubuntu's.
[16:31] <maginot> tt_, alt+f2 and there is an applet for gnome panel
[16:31] <ijaymy> 大家好
[16:31] <ijaymy> 没人说话啊
[16:31] <FloodBot1> ijaymy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:31] <maginot> ijaymy, !jp
[16:31] <maginot> !jp
[16:31] <theadmin> ubottu: cn | ijaymy
[16:31] <ijaymy> cn
[16:31] <maginot> Hmm
[16:31] <ijaymy> my  chinese
[16:32] <ijaymy> 这里没中国人啊
[16:32] <tt_> alt f2 is more like you type the whole name of the application is there anything that guesses what I want based on some letters
[16:32] <LinuX2half> Is it normal that whenever I watched a video online, I'll hear my computer fan humming?
[16:32] <ijaymy> :-D
[16:32] <hcl2> ijaymy: nope
[16:32] <maginot> ijaymy, here is english only...
[16:32] <tt_> and it wouldnt launch "calculator"
[16:32] <ZykoticK9> tt_, check out gnomedo then
[16:32] <ijaymy> i am sorry
[16:32] <tt_> ok
[16:32] <tt_> thanks
[16:32] <hcl2> how do i change what runlevel i boot into?  i want 3 but i have 5 now (i don't want X/gdm)
[16:32] <tt_> I think i have had that and it was what i wanted
[16:33] <WhiteDawn> nu2linux: I heard quite a lot of praise for linux Mint, its baised off ubuntu too so it be cool to try it for your next distro
[16:33] <ijaymy> where it is chinese
[16:33] <VoJe> Does anyone know the easiest way to assign programs to certain workspaces?
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> hcl2:  ubuntu dosent use runlevels like that
[16:33] <ijaymy> chinese
[16:33] <ijaymy> where
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> VoJe:  compiz has some settings to put specific windows in specific locations
[16:33] <ZykoticK9> ijaymy, /joing  #ubuntu-cn
[16:33] <tt_> and to comment on someone deciding on linux distro, I found that between mint an ubuntu, ubuntu was the way to go for support.
[16:33] <ZykoticK9> ijaymy, /join  #ubuntu-cn
[16:33] <ijaymy> ZykoticK9:thank
[16:34] <VoJe> Is compiz a default app in 10.04 beta1, or do i have to download it?
[16:34] <hcl2> Dr_Willis: sure it does, vi /etc/init/gdm.conf it says "stop on runlevel [016]"
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> VoJe:  its been the default for the last 3 releases
[16:34] <VoJe> or compiz-settings
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> hcl2:  not really..
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> !runlevels
[16:34] <ZykoticK9> VoJe, it's default - but you still need to install ccsm etc.
[16:34] <hcl2> how is that not a runlevel ?
[16:34] <khem_> [ 3029.284188] zd1211rw: probe of 2-1:2.1 failed with error -32
[16:34] <khem_> i get this error when i try to initalize the driver for my edge/gprs usb driver. can somebody try to help me get it to work?
[16:34] <tt_> ZykoticK9, should i get gnomedo from software manager or type something like sudo apt get in the terminal
[16:34] <VoJe> ok, that was what i was pondering
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> hcl2:  its  not using runlevel 3 as 'boot with no X' like other disrtos do
[16:34] <VoJe> ok, that was what i was pondering.9thanks
[16:35] <ZykoticK9> tt_, it doesn't make any difference, both coming from same spot - so whatever you feel comfortable with
[16:35] <arand> VoJe: Not compizconfig-setting-manager, no, and lucid support in #ubuntu+1 btw
[16:35] <hcl2> well, how do I get it to not boot up X/gdm ? forget the terminology
[16:35] <VoJe> oh, sorry. Thanks!
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> hcl2:  you use upstart configs to disable gdm service
[16:35] <tt_> well just for suture refrence, how close was I?
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> hcl2:  see /etc/init/  rename the gdm.conf to be gdm.DONTSTART or silimer
[16:36] <Busata> is there an irc channel for wine problems, or could I ask it here?
[16:36] <theadmin> Busata: #winehq
[16:36] <Busata> thanks
[16:36] <Busata> #wine kicked me out :(
[16:36] <ijaymy> Dr_Willis:
[16:36] <theadmin> Busata: That's nothing related to THAT wine lol
[16:36] <tt_> actually i should go find that out thanke
[16:36] <ZykoticK9> hcl2, to disable GDM you can use "sudo mv /etc/init/gdm.conf /etc/init/gdm.conf-disabled"
[16:36] <ijaymy> Which country are you
[16:37] <theadmin> ZykoticK9: Ahem, ahem. It's /etc/init.d
[16:37] <Busata> I have no idea what #wine is about, except a guess that's about the real one
[16:37] <ijaymy> I used Google Translate to chat with you
[16:37] <ZykoticK9> theadmin, not for those directions!
[16:37] <ijaymy> You can speak English too well
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> err.. upstart has scripts in /etc/init   init.d is for the sysv stuff
[16:37] <theadmin> ijaymy: For Ubuntu help in chinese, go to #ubuntu-cn . For just chatting, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:37] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Oh. I see.
[16:38] <Dr_Willis> and sysv stuff is slowly getttingphased out
[16:38] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Don't even know whether that's good or bad :/
[16:38] <davrian> what do we talk about here?
[16:38] <PyroPhelia> what's the most painless way to find files with duplicate file names?
[16:38] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  it dosent really matter.. it is whats happening
[16:39] <ZykoticK9> hcl2, FYI if you changed the value to "stop on runlevel [0126]" it won't start either
[16:39] <maginot> davrian, here is a support channel
[16:39] <hcl2> thanks
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> !info fdupes
[16:39] <Dr_Willis>  PyroPhelia
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> thres proberly some gui 'duplicate file finders' also
[16:40] <ZykoticK9> fslint
[16:40] <mhall119> upstart can run startup scripts in parallel, sysv runs in serial, which makes upstart faster
[16:40] <PyroPhelia> sorry this is for a server, no X
[16:40] <mhall119> also, upstart can be triggered by events
[16:40] <mhall119> so you can say "startup this service only after networking has started"
[16:40] <mhall119> so you don't have to manage numbered file names
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> !info fdupes  | PyroPhelia
[16:43] <PyroPhelia> Dr_Willis, unless the program has been updated since I last used it, that won't be very effective.  You see the problem is a user (officer of the company so I can't argue with them) has made duplicates of files in multiple places in his direcotry.  However the problem is now the files are in different versions.  so they won't be 1:1 duplicates.  they are the same only in name so I need to find the same file based on the name, and then
[16:43] <PyroPhelia>  delete everything all of the older files
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> PyroPhelia:  theres  'approximate file duplicte finder tools ' also in the repos
[16:44] <yellabs> hi there
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> sounds like a job for a fancy bash script then
[16:44] <yellabs> how is it going?
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> since you dont really want 'duplicate' files. :)
[16:44] <__maroc__H> hello
[16:45] <theadmin> yellabs: This is a support channel, #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[16:45] <yellabs> can i rescue data that was formerly fat 32 but now ext 3, could i rescue that?
[16:45] <khem_> !find interepid
[16:45] <khem_> !find intrepid
[16:45] <__maroc__H> I have a problem in C
[16:45] <maginot> __maroc__H, #c channel
[16:45] <theadmin> yellabs: You formatted the hard drive and want to rescue stuff that was before? Impossible
[16:45] <__maroc__H> #c
[16:46] <yellabs> are yo u100 % sure?
[16:46] <theadmin> yellabs: Yes.
[16:46] <yellabs> so its a secure way to format drives ?
[16:46] <maginot> theadmin, thats not impossible
[16:46] <yellabs> ah
[16:46] <maginot> yellabs, try foremost
[16:46] <theadmin> maginot: o_O O_O
[16:47] <yellabs> foremost?
[16:47] <maginot> yellabs, was what I said...
[16:47] <yellabs> ah i see, data carving
[16:47] <__maroc__H> I have a problem conio.h dosen't exsit
[16:48] <maginot> __maroc__H, again, try #c channel
[16:48] <maginot> __maroc__H, /join #c
[16:48] <theadmin> __maroc__H: Type "/join #c" to get to the C channel
[16:48] <S0cr4t3s> s0crates
[16:49] <S0cr4t3s> S0cr4t3s
[16:49] <researcher1> where can I study/tutorial of NIS or LDAP?
[16:49] <tschand> join #blenderdurian
[16:49] <__maroc__H> I'm trying but they told me "Nz pzut rejoindre #c (canal en invite seulement)"
[16:49] <maginot> researcher1, google...
[16:49] <theadmin> __maroc__H: You need to register your nickname. To get more info on that, type "/msg nickserv help register"
[16:49] <nu2linux> I called toshiba to find out what graphics card is in my laptop first I get one person who was rude but gave half of the name and then I called support and they seem not know
[16:49] <S0cr4t3s> researcher1,  There are numerous places online.  LDAP alone can take years to fully understand
[16:49] <arakthor> __maroc__H, it's actually ##c if memory servers me correctly. you also have to registered
[16:50] <yellabs> thanks for the info , i will check it out
[16:50] <maginot> arakthor, yes, is ##c, but just /join #c will work
[16:50] <nu2linux> what is up with that so How can I find out what graphics card is in my system using Ubuntu
[16:50] <aless12> hi, there is an script I want to be runned daily. I copied it to /etc/cron.daily but It is not being executed (doing ./script.sh works fine)
[16:50] <maginot> nu2linux, lspci
[16:50] <arakthor> maginot, not for me. I get the same error, and I am registered. ##c works fine though
[16:50] <mhall119> nu2linux: from the command line run "lspci |grep -i vga"
[16:50] <nu2linux> which one
[16:51] <maginot> arakthor, just joined ##c using /join #c
[16:51] <nu2linux> lspci or what you said mhall119
[16:51] <arakthor> maginot, you must have something different. I get a message saying it is invite only :s
[16:51] <maginot> arakthor, I don't know... I use xchat if that matter
[16:51] <arakthor> maginot, likewise :p
[16:52] <nu2linux> I am sorry I just got two different answers by two different people
[16:52] <yellabs> have a nice day !
[16:52] <arakthor> maginot, it's a mystery I'll never bother to solve at any rate
[16:52] <maginot> nu2linux, lspci will output the hardware information, grep is a filter
[16:52] <maginot> arakthor, neither do I ;D
[16:52] <mhall119> nu2linux: my suggestion still uses lspci
[16:52] <alb2684> hola todos
[16:52] <erUSUL> !es | alb2684
[16:53] <mhall119> it just filters on the term "vga"
[16:53] <maginot> nu2linux, "lspci | grep -i vga" is a full command line
[16:53] <mhall119> so you'll only see the line for your graphics card
[16:53] <mhall119> unstead of all your hardware
[16:53] <ThJ> Can anyone explain to me why such a simple thing as adjusting mouse sensitivity has never worked for me in any distribution of Linux I've ever used? Such a seemingly simple thing...
[16:53] <mhall119> lspci means "list pci devices"
[16:54] <maginot> ThJ, conspiracy ?
[16:54] <ThJ> Acceleration is one thing but what if you need precision for something temporarily?
[16:54] <yellabs> see all your hardware, use lshw command
[16:54] <theadmin> Must i escape such characters as ( and ) in the "echo" command? Just to be sure.
[16:55] <ThJ> maginot, annoying as "#¤# ... Linux UIs have borrowed tons of other concepts from Windows and other OSes, but mouse adjustments? Naah...
[16:55] <costre> ThJ, I experienced the same hing  yesterday when I changed my mouse .. .but after dialing on both meters wildly, things got the way I liked it
[16:55] <maginot> ThJ, windows took concepts from UNIX
[16:55] <ThJ> costre: well, if I turn Accelleration off completely, the Sensitivity slider doesn't do anything.
[16:55] <omikron4> alb2684 if u wanna talk in spanish go to ubuntu-es
[16:55] <Mkools> Can someone please solve grub boot loader problem?
[16:55] <maginot> ThJ, and windows doesn't have sensibility adjustments out of the box, you always have to use a driver for that
[16:56] <ThJ> maginot: UNIX? I suppose. The first versions of Windows were blatant ripoffs of Apple.
[16:56] <omikron4> explain your problem Mktools
[16:56] <maginot> ThJ, this is out of subject here...
[16:56] <ThJ> maginot: Not true. Any old driverless mouse is adjustable.
[16:57] <ThJ> It may not alter the hardware DPI
[16:57] <airtonix> offtopic ?
[16:57] <ThJ> But I don't care if it does, I just want to slow down my mouse temporarily
[16:57] <alb_> join #ubuntu -es
[16:57] <ThJ> Can it be done? Command line?
[16:57] <alb_> join #ubuntu-es
[16:57] <erUSUL> alb_: /join #ubuntu-es
[16:57] <maginot> ThJ, what the heck are you talking about? You can make many more adjustments on linux out of the box to your mouse them windows... will not argue this with you
[16:57] <theadmin> alb_: type "/join #ubuntu-es"
[16:57] <nu2linux> ok done that
[16:57] <omikron4> with "/" alb_
[16:58] <maginot> ThJ, System > Preferences > Mouse
[16:58] <ThJ> maginot: Ubuntu offers me two sliders for mouse speed related things. Admittedly, Windows offers me only one slider, and a checkbox, but does what I am in need of right now.
[16:58] <keyvan> soreau: thanks :) it worked
[16:59] <airtonix> ThJ, investigate manipulating the synaptics input driver config
[16:59] <keyvan> in ubuntu now :)
[16:59]  * maginot hates people that don't know how to use something and keep blaming its ignorance a system fault 
[16:59] <costre> ThJ, If I max the sensitivity meter, the mouse goes crazy slow and steady
[16:59] <ThJ> maginot: I don't have my digitizer tablet with me, and I want to draw on the computer, so I want my mouse to have no acceleration and a low speed.
[17:00] <ThJ> costre: Does your sensitivity slider work when Acceleration is zeroed?
[17:00] <theadmin> If i put a shellscript into /usr/bin and make it executable will it work just like other commands?
[17:00] <costre> However, I think "acceleration" is the wrong term to use. It's the pointer's speed that's in question
[17:00] <erUSUL> theadmin: yes but it is better to use /usr/local/bin/
[17:00] <theadmin> erUSUL: Huh. Okay.
[17:00] <e-DIO-t> well! me's leaving -> see you 2night.
[17:00] <erUSUL> theadmin: to keep a separation between your own scripts and things that came from repos
[17:01] <costre> ThJ, It works, yes. But it doesn't do too much
[17:01] <ThJ> costre: Yes, I have already turned off Acceleration and it is good, because it does not accelerate. However, it still moves too quickly, the base speed or resolution if you will, is too high.
[17:01] <maginot> ThJ, this is what I have: http://picpaste.com/Captura_de_tela.png
[17:02] <costre> ThJ, Could be my mouse, but I think it's on a pixle-by-pixle basis when both meters is on minimum
[17:02] <ThJ> costre: It seems to me that the so-called Sensitivity slider does absolutely nothing for me under any circumstance and never has, in any Ubuntu version, on any hardware. It practically is a dummy slider for me.
[17:02] <ThJ> maginot: No pic here, it says.
[17:02] <costre> ThJ, My sensitivity slider does lots to affect the pointer
[17:03] <ThJ> costre: I wonder why, because only Acceleration has ever done anything for me, and I own several different computers.
[17:03] <costre> Sensitivity slows down the pointer, increases resolution so to speak
[17:03] <maginot> ThJ, yeah, just updated the picture to English http://picpaste.com/Captura_de_tela-1.png
[17:03] <costre> It could be my mouse ... MS bluetooth something-something
[17:03] <ThJ> costre: the problem is, it never does it for me.
[17:03] <johndarc> I am having problems with broken dependencies. Apprently I was careless, and deborphan removed gnome packages. After I try to login (gdm) it flashes a black screen and returns back to the login window. I've tried to force apt-get to resolve the broken dependencies but it refuses to install.
[17:04] <johndarc> Packages are: gnome-panel, gnome-applets, gnome-control-center and others.
[17:04] <ThJ> costre: Not with any mouse I have used. Same mouse is easily adjusted for speed in Windows and never fails me.
[17:04] <costre> ThJ, That sucks, then
[17:04] <ThJ> Yes, doesn't it...
[17:04] <ThJ> Either I have had extremely bad luck, or I am somehow unknowingly buying very bad mice >_>
[17:04] <maginot> ThJ, try to fix the problem don't keep complaining of it... you don't pay to use linux after all
[17:04] <ThJ> But I shouldnt have to pay $100 for a mouse to get a speed setting.
[17:04] <khem_> oooh
[17:05] <khem_> finally got it to work
[17:05] <autoclesis> don't get a GE mouse
[17:05] <autoclesis> my advice
[17:05] <ThJ> maginot, I would, if the XInput architecture wasn't such a complete horror XD
[17:05] <ThJ> I once wanted to implement some tablet functionality for Linux and had one look at some source code for it... XInput is not a simple API. :x
[17:05] <theadmin> I have an a4tech and this works perfectly for me with both sensetivity and acceleration thingies
[17:05] <DaisyTheCow> Does anyone know of a instant messenger app that works with a webcam?
[17:05] <ThJ> I have a plain old Logitech, the cheapest kind, probably.
[17:06] <ThJ> Let me see if it works with my trackpad
[17:06] <maginot> ThJ, my tablet works pretty good, my wacon and my genius
[17:06] <ThJ> maginot: yes, but the API, it is complex.
[17:07] <theadmin> Perfect :D Now i have my own URL shortener. And it works as a command XDDD
[17:07] <ThJ> It's not broken or anything, just... I was put off when I saw relatively simple code for detecting pressure from a tablet
[17:07] <ynk> when you typically install a package that has dependencies, are those additions uninstalled when the package is removed?
[17:07] <theadmin> Thanks, erUSUL
[17:07] <ThJ> It was umpteen pages long and pretty dense
[17:07] <maginot> I'm off this conversation, I can't understand what you want... is just to talk? so #ubuntu-offtopic is the place
[17:07] <ThJ> Eh never mind
[17:07] <ThJ> I guess it just doesn't work for me period.
[17:08] <m_camero> OLA
[17:08] <erUSUL> !es | m_camero
[17:08] <m_camero> Y YO
[17:08] <costre> ThJ, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1124557
[17:08] <nu2linux> Ok I found what graphics card I have
[17:08] <m_camero> OLLAAAAAAA
[17:08] <maginot> !es | m_camero
[17:08] <costre> ThJ, Half down on page 2 is your solution .. appearantly
[17:09] <ThJ> costre: Editing a config file, basically?
[17:09] <yehia> hello, how to install Eterm ?
[17:09] <ynk> When you typically install a package that has dependencies, are those additions uninstalled when the package is removed?
[17:09] <maginot> yehia, you can try apt-get install eterm
[17:09] <costre> ThJ, Post #14 in that thread I just posted
[17:09] <ThJ> Ok
[17:10] <maginot> yehia, if doesn't work try finding the correct work with "aptitude search eterm"
[17:10] <costre> ynk, If nothing else depends on them, they should
[17:10] <costre> ynk, I guess that's the difference between remove and remove completely? :)
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> remove vs purge
[17:11] <yehia> p   eterm                           - Enlightened Terminal Emulator
[17:11] <yehia> v   eterm-backgrounds               -
[17:11] <yehia> p   eterm-themes                    - Themes for Eterm, the Enlightened Terminal
[17:11] <yehia> p   liblwp-useragent-determined-per - a LWP useragent that retries errors
[17:11] <FloodBot1> yehia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:11] <yehia> sorry
[17:11] <maginot> yehia, apt-get install eterm will do the tricky
[17:11] <ThJ> costre: I see. The only problem is that I only want this setting temporarily. gedit and Ctrl+Alt+Backspace each time I want to change the setting seems a little bit... inconvenient.
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> alt-ctrl-bs - wont work anymore either :)
[17:11] <costre> ThJ, But I guess you can find a middle way that lets you use the sliders to some extent?
[17:11] <ynk> costre: you have an option to "remove" or "remove completely"?
[17:12] <costre> ynk, In synaptic, yes
[17:12] <yehia> maginot : E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[17:12] <yehia> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[17:12] <maginot> Dr_Willis, I hate the developers atitude tooking this off, I have to install things to make it work again
[17:12] <ynk> costre: got it. thanks!
[17:12] <maginot> yehia, are you root ? ;)
[17:12] <ThJ> costre: I suppose. In any case, not very impressive, considering that in Ubuntu's case, there is money backing it, even if I am not personally paying for it.
[17:12] <AJW256> yehia: need to be sudo
[17:12] <maginot> yehia, sudo  apt-get install eterm
[17:12] <ThJ> costre: Apparently, according to what you linked me, it's a regression of sorts.
[17:13] <costre> ThJ, Seems to have to do with high-end mice with dpi >400
[17:13] <ThJ> The slider must obviously have been tested at one point, but perhaps not recently.
[17:13] <costre> ThJ, I read that too
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> its amazing the # of dpi some of these new mice can do.
[17:13] <maginot> mine have 2000
[17:13] <ThJ> I don't have a high-end mouse, but with the particular settings I use, I can hand-draw very accurately even without my tablet.
[17:13] <maginot> ;X
[17:14] <ThJ> This plain old cheap optical mouse is actually fairly accurate in tracing out my motion
[17:14] <nu2linux> OK I found a graphics driver for my laptop but it is for windows xp can I still use it for Ubuntu so I can change my visual effects
[17:14] <ThJ> I can do smooth circles and what not.
[17:14] <costre> maginot, How fast do you have to move to notice the difference? It's for railgunners in quake, nothing else :(
[17:14] <costre> :) *
[17:14] <ThJ> But I do need to reduce the resolution a bit, basically.
[17:14] <ThJ> Anyway, thanks for at least trying to help.
[17:14] <costre> np
[17:14] <costre> gl
[17:14] <maginot> costre, actually I like Call of duty ;D
[17:15] <yehia> maginot: i have installed it thanks alot
[17:15] <yehia> maginot: how to let my wireless working with my fluxbox system
[17:15] <maginot> costre, and isn't exactly the DPI who make me spin but the mouse itself, I love razer mouses
[17:15] <maginot> yehia, don't use fluxbox here, sorry
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> yehia:  run the network manager tool and configure it.
[17:18] <freazor> hey i just installed my  pcmia card and entered my wep key with the network manager but it doesnt connect.. but when i put the wep out of the router it connects without problems so it only works withput wep key.. does anyone know why this happens?
[17:18] <e01> how to install totem with xine backend
[17:19] <maginot> freazor, maybe you are using shared wep keys and not open wep
[17:19] <maginot> e01, why not use vlc ? Its plays everything
[17:19] <Kingsy102> hello, is there a way of running memtest86 on startup? without having to use a livecd?
[17:19] <erUSUL> Kingsy102: grub has an entry for it
[17:20] <e01> maginot, because it`s interface is verry ugly and hard to use
[17:20] <Kingsy102> erUSUL - how do I run grub on startup then?
[17:20] <theadmin> e01: I don't think so :/
[17:20] <switch10_> Kingsy102: hold shift to get the grub menu at startup
[17:20] <freazor> maginot: what is a shared wep key ? i use a normal 128bit wep key .. and all the other users in my wlan use the same 128bit wep key
[17:20] <erUSUL> Kingsy102: grub allways run at startup ... but maybe you have the menu hidden. press shift as the machine boots
[17:20] <maginot> e01, vlc have themes too... just install them, but thats up to you
[17:21] <Kingsy102> erUSUL - ok and is memtest86 obvious? or is there a sepcial way of running it?
[17:21] <Kingsy102> or is it simply just selectable in a menu?
[17:21] <nu2linux> hey what does this mean I go to systems >preference>visual effects and click on normal (right now its on none) and it says searching drivers and then desktop could not enable what does this mean
[17:21] <erUSUL> Kingsy102: is obvious; usually the last entry in the menu with prper name and all ;)
[17:21] <Kingsy102> heh thanks
[17:21] <Kingsy102> let me try that
[17:21] <Kingsy102> brb
[17:22] <erUSUL> nu2linux: maybe your graphic card does not support 3d in linux
[17:22] <erUSUL> nu2linux: which one do you have ?
[17:22] <nu2linux> S3 supersavage Driver ix/c sdr
[17:22] <nu2linux> s3 supersavage ixc sdr Driver
[17:23] <maginot> freazor, inside authentication you can choose between open and shared
[17:23] <Roasted> Has anybody had their wireless just drop randomly for no reason even with having good signal?
[17:23] <erUSUL> nu2linux: well that graphic card is not supported for effects; sorry
[17:24] <nu2linux> its ok I just want to find out if it did or not. In that case should I stay with Ubuntu or go with another distro
[17:24] <KRiMoRaL> Dr_Willis, you still around?
[17:24] <theadmin> huh. I can't seem to find mine o_O "lspci | grep 'vga'" returns nothing
[17:24] <costre> nu2linux, What's the issue? Try envyNG :)
[17:24] <erUSUL> nu2linux: why would you want to switch ?
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> KRiMoRaL:  barely
[17:25] <erUSUL> nu2linux: compiz  (responsible of effects) is the same in all diestros.
[17:25] <maginot> nu2linux, its not a distro problem, its up to you video card and you video card driver
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> s3 video sort of sucks equally in all disrtos. :)
[17:25] <costre> oh, s3 .. forget envyNG, then
[17:25] <KRiMoRaL> How do you do survive? ;) Hey, you mentioned earlier a package that I could install alongside gnome to be able to pick kde instead at the login screen... which was it?
[17:25] <nu2linux> can I change my graphics card this is a laptop by the way.
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> KRiMoRaL:  'kubuntu-desktop' is for the full KDE desktop
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> KRiMoRaL:  also kde support in #kubuntu
[17:26] <maginot> nu2linux, probably not.
[17:26] <switch10_> nu2linux: its probably integrated graphics..  so no.
[17:26] <erUSUL> nu2linux: most likely no
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> change gfx card in a laptop..  not very likely .:)
[17:26] <Kingsy101> what is the tool called again to boot ubuntu liveCD through a USB drive? I forget
[17:26] <nu2linux> how about my other laptop it has a 64 amd nvidia card in it
[17:27] <switch10_> Kingsy101: unetbootin?
[17:27] <maginot> nu2linux, it will do
[17:27] <livizy> hello everybody，im new here
[17:27] <theadmin> nu2linux: That should do, nvidias work fine
[17:27] <erUSUL> !hi | livizy
[17:27] <Kingsy101> switch10_ - thats the one thanks :)
[17:27] <nu2linux> what is the extras like in the visual effects
[17:27] <livizy> im a chinese ubuntu user
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> nu2linux:  check youtube for example videos of the eyecandy
[17:28] <nu2linux> will do I do love eyecandy
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> nu 95% totally useless eyecandy and a few nice features..
[17:28] <costre> livizy, Try ubuntu-cn for help in chinese :)
[17:28] <erUSUL> livizy: there are chinise channel of ubuntu if you prefer
[17:28] <costre> livizy, Try #ubuntu-cn for help in chinese :)
[17:28] <erUSUL> !cn | livizy
[17:28]  * maginot goes watch house... =D
[17:28] <KRiMoRaL> the only real eyecandy i like, is when i enable cube desktop in compiz :)~~~
[17:29] <nu2linux> here is another question I went over to my friends house, he has the same Ubuntu 9.10 and the videos on youtube was not so smooth
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> cube is proberly the most useless thing ive seen in years.. :)
[17:29] <switch10_> the bset feature in compiz in my opinion is grid.  windows aero "snap" feature, does not compete.
[17:29] <livizy> yep，but there is only a little men
[17:29] <KRiMoRaL> Maybe so... but it's fun ;)
[17:29] <Tybstar> anyone ever have problems with an intel i915 where the screen "flickers" in both graphics and text mode? BIOS bootup looks fine so it appears to be a driver problem.
[17:29] <KRiMoRaL> Only problem is, nvidias driver installer doesn't work on 10
[17:30] <captainc> I have an encrypted home and swap using luks in sda6. I want to move it to sda8. how can I do this?
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> KRiMoRaL:  hmm?  the package manager nvidia drivers work for me in 10.04 just fine
[17:30] <costre> KRiMoRaL, With enough desktop efects and addons ubuntu can look crazily awesome!!1!1 But you get back to basic eventually :p
[17:31] <captainc> hidelevels.set
[17:31] <KRiMoRaL> Dr_Willis, I was trying to use the one that you see when you do Hardware Drivers from the System menu
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> KRiMoRaL:  they work for me onmy 2 nvidia machines.
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> Use theones from nvidia.com at your own risk
[17:31] <KRiMoRaL> I have a gtx 275... do you think that matters? I wonder why the drivers won't work for me? They worked on 9.10
[17:31] <nu2linux> Youtube is not as smooth as in my other laptop that runs windows
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> nu2linux:  go tell adobe.. its their software
[17:32] <nu2linux> ok I will do is it smooth on your end Dr_willis
[17:32] <boymeetsworld> nu2linux,  I was in your situation, Dr_Willis is right...:|
[17:32] <KRiMoRaL> It said something about checking the jockey log, and I do remember seeing something on the ubuntu site where you can download the beta
[17:33] <switch10_> I use Hulu and youtube all the time.  The video is fine for me, and im on 64 bit :)
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> nu2linux:  i rarely bother with flash videos.  You can always use google chrome and html5 if you wanted
[17:33] <freazor> maginot: I just tryed it.. open and shared  both doesnt work :(
[17:33] <boymeetsworld> switch10_,  full screen working fine on your side?:D
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> flash is not a 'critical' feature for me
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> bye all.
[17:33] <nu2linux> what does google chrome do
[17:33] <KRiMoRaL> it be's awesome.
[17:33] <switch10_> boymeetswold: flawless
[17:34] <boymeetsworld> My flash player doesn't work that great, 64 bit version from adobe, it's an experimental release..
[17:34] <nu2linux> boymeetsworld which one do i download
[17:34] <boymeetsworld> nu2linux, i will pm you if that's ok.
[17:35] <nu2linux> yes it is
[17:35] <nu2linux> Pm me
[17:38] <LincoN^> /ns id Fridolf95
[17:38] <LincoN^> ...
[17:38] <KRiMoRaL> lol
[17:38] <LincoN^> ...
[17:38] <LincoN^> no1 saw that
[17:38] <KRiMoRaL> better change it quick
[17:39] <livizy> where can i find some information about ubuntu
[17:39] <LincoN^> how do i change :s
[17:39] <livizy> where can i find some information about ubuntu's runlevel
[17:39] <KRiMoRaL> query nickserv i suppose
[17:39] <LincoN^> !help
[17:39] <costre> livizy, www.ubuntuforums.org is a start
[17:40] <KRiMoRaL> in 10, how can i move the control buttons back to the right side? (i have no idea why they would change it like that)
[17:40] <ZykoticK9> !runlevels > livizy
[17:40] <iceroot> KRiMoRaL: 10?
[17:40] <KRiMoRaL> ubuntu 10
[17:40] <iceroot> !10.04 | KRiMoRaL
[17:41] <KRiMoRaL> gotcha. thanks.
[17:42] <LincoN^> Why is my wine so slow after updating directx?
[17:43] <TommyThaGun> wait
[17:43] <livizy> ubottu,are you here?
[17:44] <qt-x> ubottu: help
[17:45] <ZykoticK9> livizy, i sent you the runlevels bot message
[17:45] <livizy> ok，got it
[17:47] <livizy> what message？ ZykoticK9
[17:47] <ZykoticK9> livizy, the ubottu - runlevels message
[17:47] <researcher1> I want to creat aptonCD but one of the installed programm
[17:47] <researcher1> is missing what can I do?
[17:48] <researcher1>  I want to create aptonCD but one of the installed program is missing what can I do?
[17:49] <ben_q> hello, can anyone tell me what the command is to switch to a certain desktop? I want to use it in xkeybinds
[17:50] <Dvorak_AJS> anyone know why [ctrl + alt] doesn't result in a [Alt Gr] like in windows?
[17:50] <eremite> ben_q: ctrl alt arrow?
[17:50] <eremite> People actually use dvorak?
[17:50] <Dvorak_AJS> dvorak as in the composer
[17:51] <TRiBLy> does anyone know how i can play .xm files on ubuntu?
[17:51] <Dvorak_AJS> you would be a crazyman to try and learn to use a dvorak keyboard :p
[17:52] <sudipta> how to write c++ programmes in netbeans in karmic?
[17:52] <Roasted> Has anybody had their wireless just drop randomly for no reason even with having good signal?
[17:52] <Trek> Roasted: yep
[17:53] <Trek> Roasted: every 5 minutes on my other laptop
[17:53] <ben_q> sorry, crashed my computer. emerica, i need the command, not the shortcut
[17:53] <autoclesis> ghosts
[17:54] <ben_q> ah sorry, it was emerite
[17:55] <emerica> ben_q: you mean eremite
[17:55] <emerica> :)
[17:55] <ben_q> just got the name before the pc crashed ^^
[17:55] <a16bitsoft> will beta upgrade to final, or I have to reinstall ubuntu when released
[17:55] <Trek> a16bitsoft: lucid?
[17:55] <a16bitsoft> yes
[17:55] <Trek> !lucid | a16bitsoft
[17:56] <crescendo> .gvfs is my new favorite toy
[17:56] <a16bitsoft> ok, thanks
[17:56] <mhall119> ben_q: look into wnckprop
[17:56] <mhall119> in libwnck-dev package
[17:57] <kjcole> Hi,  once again, I've forgotten the trouble that LVM gets me into when I try to upgrade...  I just went to Lucid yesterday, and now I have a machine that hangs with "init: ureadahead main process (...) terminated with status 5"
[17:57] <sudipta> hey,is anyone there to help me out?????????
[17:57] <m4rko> hola
[17:57] <m4rko> alguna chica ardiente
[17:58] <jpds> m4rko: No.
[17:58] <millertimek1a2m3> hey how to I go to irc.gnome.org
[17:58] <iustinian> !es
[17:58] <jpds> !es > m4rko
[17:58] <nu2linux> Hey is Mozilla and Firefox the same
[17:58] <nu2linux> ??
[17:58] <jpds> nu2linux: No.
[17:58] <autoclesis> !ubuntu software
[17:58] <kjcole> I've now booted into a rescue environment from the alternate CD, and have mounted /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-* in their rightful places.  Where do I go from here?
[17:58] <eremite> nu2linux: no.
[17:58] <mhall119> nu2linux: mozilla is both the name of a program, and a company
[17:58] <jpds> nu2linux: that's like saying Canonical and Ubuntu are the same.
[17:59] <nu2linux> I went to adobe to install a plugin
[18:00] <mhall119> nu2linux: the package in the Ubuntu repos will download and install the plugin for you
[18:00] <YingFan> was there a special channel for lucid? I forgot
[18:00] <mhall119> you may have to restart Firefox
[18:00] <mhall119> YingFan: #ubuntu+1 maybe?
[18:00] <erUSUL> YingFan: #ubuntu+1
[18:00] <YingFan> ah, thanks
[18:01] <kjcole> Oops. Ta-ta.
[18:01] <nu2linux> Youtube is still choppy
[18:02] <nu2linux> There is an option one is .deb for Ubuntu 8.04+ and another APT for Ubuntu 9.04+
[18:03] <ZykoticK9> nu2linux, you can try Chromium (or Google Chrome) and try using HTML5 if you want (youtube.com/html5)
[18:03] <nu2linux> Which one should I download there is also yum for linux , .Tar fir linux, .rpm for linux
[18:03] <iustinian> *.deb
[18:07] <arabica> *.src.tar.bz for me
[18:08] <millertimek1a2m4> hello?
[18:08] <maginot> hi
[18:08] <millertimek1a2m3> hello?
[18:09] <autoclesis> do a lot of the troubles that people ask about result from tinkering about ?
[18:09] <Trek> sometimes :P
[18:09] <nu2linux> When i go get google chrome do I save it or do I open it
[18:10] <autoclesis> okay
[18:10] <autoclesis> i got my CDs but i haven't got my new computer yet
[18:10] <nu2linux> in other words do I download it or just choose to open the file
[18:10] <arabica> lol, salesman detected!
[18:10] <autoclesis> i'm setting up side by side
[18:11] <arabica> what's your new computer?
[18:11] <boymeetsworld> nu2linux, want to setup google chrome?
[18:11] <nu2linux> yes
[18:12] <raj-darkmystery> nu2linux: y dnt u do apt-get install?
[18:12] <nu2linux> what is that?
[18:12] <raj-darkmystery> nu2linux: why dont you do apt-get install?
[18:12] <arabica> wait a second, can chrome run on linux?
[18:12] <ZykoticK9> arabica, yes
[18:12] <Trek> raj-darkmystery, he's new thats why he didnt
[18:12] <PatrickGleason> arabica: yup
[18:12] <iustinian> instal chromium package
[18:12] <iustinian> it is available in the official repos
[18:12] <raj-darkmystery> ohhk nu2linux which destro you are using?
[18:13] <ZykoticK9> iustinian, chromium is a game -- chromium-browser is the web browser
[18:13] <trism> chromium is not in the official repos until lucid
[18:13] <nu2linux> Ubuntu 9.10
[18:13] <arabica> me too
[18:13] <eremite> Chrome is faster than Chromium
[18:13] <iustinian> ZykoticK9: yeh that one
[18:13] <arabica> operra is faster than chrome
[18:13] <arabica> opera
[18:13] <boymeetsworld> :)browser war!!
[18:14] <PatrickGleason> arabica: my browsers cooler than your browser
[18:14] <eremite> Not it is not, and it fails Acid tests compared to Chrome
[18:14] <maginot> opera looks like a shopping center... =X
[18:14] <isolat3dsh33p> hello, is there anyone installed tuxguitar 1.2? I've installed it, but the MIDI don't seems to work. Any ideas?
[18:14] <floww> hello guys
[18:14] <arabica> the point is that opera has learnt to chrome and taken the best part form chrome
[18:14] <eremite> Opera is bulky, ugly and slow compared to Chrome in Ubuntu
[18:14] <arabica> opera has done a good job
[18:14] <ChogyDan> this really isnt the place to debate which browser is better
[18:15] <floww> i got a huge problem i got the problem ntldr is missing on windows xp i replaced it with ubuntu and now evrytime the intel sign comes it disappears
[18:15] <PatrickGleason> ChogyDan: agreed. cause ie6 is the clear winner of course.
[18:15] <ChogyDan> of course
[18:15] <arabica> lol
[18:15] <floww> evrytime the intel sign comes it restarts
[18:15] <arabica> ie6 rules
[18:15] <eremite> lol
[18:15] <floww> anyone a idea
[18:15] <maginot> I hate opera, for me opera is worse then IE
[18:15] <floww> opera rox
[18:15] <PatrickGleason> maginot: them are fighten words
[18:15] <researcher1> is it possible to install an application which automatically becomes inactive after a given duration   ?
[18:16] <floww> lul anyone got a solution for mey?
[18:16] <ChogyDan> floww: do you get a grub menu?  a menu to select between ubuntu or windows?
[18:16] <floww> no
[18:16] <floww> im using live cd
[18:16] <ChogyDan> floww: the livecd won't boot?
[18:16] <floww> well it could be thta it wasnt ntldr and just the fixmbr
[18:16] <autoclesis> !conky
[18:16] <floww> live cd boots but windows doesnt boot
[18:16] <floww> 10 min ago it came ntdrl is missing
[18:16] <maginot> PatrickGleason, ?
[18:16] <raj-darkmystery> nu2linux if you want to install chromium then you need to make some entries in your sources .list... check my pm
[18:17] <floww> i followed a guide on youtube and replaced the ntldr about ubuntu
[18:17] <Trek> floww, your win partition is messed, but dont discuss that here.
[18:17] <Trek> !windows | floww
[18:17] <PatrickGleason> maginot: opera < ie . i said those are fighting words. dont mind me im just bored and very much out of it.
[18:17] <floww> ok
[18:17] <ChogyDan> floww: this may not be an ubuntu problem.  You may have to ask some windows folks
[18:17] <floww> gud idea
[18:17] <Trek> ChogyDan: i already got himn
[18:17] <maginot> PatrickGleason, oh, ok =)
[18:18] <ChogyDan> Trek: ya  :)  I had it typed out..
[18:18] <Gangrel> if i remove both top and bottom panels how can i make them reappear?
[18:18] <ChogyDan> !panels | Gangrel this is one way
[18:23] <Dvorak_AJS> is avast needed for ubuntu or am I safe?
[18:23] <PatrickGleason> Dvorak_AJS: would also be interested in this answer
[18:24] <ZykoticK9> !virus > Dvorak_AJS
[18:24] <tuce> fxccccdth
[18:24] <tuce> k+
[18:24] <PatrickGleason> !virus
[18:24] <valentinex> easy simple and best text clipboard manager for my lovely ubuntu?
[18:27] <floww> possible to do fixmbr with ubuntu? any idea
[18:27] <ZykoticK9> floww, for Windows - no
[18:27] <Wild_Doogy> floww: use testdisk
[18:27] <floww> the problem is i cant burn any cd
[18:27] <Wild_Doogy> it might be able to recover using the backup sector
[18:27] <floww> ubuntu live cd inside
[18:28] <Wild_Doogy> floww: ouch lol
[18:28] <valentinex> give me name of good clipboard manager
[18:29] <ChogyDan> valentinex: ubuntu?
[18:29] <valentinex> give me any nice clipboard manager name or i will die
[18:29] <valentinex> yes
[18:29] <rjb> how do i connect two ubuntu 9.10 with crossover cable?
[18:29] <valentinex> in xubuntu was already installed just add to panel
[18:29] <Myrtti> valentinex: clipman in xfce4 :-P
[18:29] <PatrickGleason> rjb: veeerrrryy carefuly
[18:29] <Wild_Doogy>  rjb: static ips
[18:30] <pitwalker> floww: ranish is os independent, with ranis you can restore any disk to the default MBR loader
[18:30] <Wild_Doogy>  rjb: it shouldnt b that bad
[18:30] <valentinex> that clipman can work in ubuntu too?
[18:30] <raj-darkmystery> rjb, what you eaxctly want to do?
[18:30] <nu2linux> When is 10.4 coming out??
[18:30] <ChogyDan> glipper parcellite xfce4-clipman-plugin klipper
[18:30] <Myrtti> valentinex: I don't know? I don't use it.
[18:30] <climenole> Clipboard manager? Parcellite 0.9.2 http://parcellite.sourceforge.net :)
[18:30] <TRiBLy> rjb, plug the cable in both comps? : D
[18:30] <raj-darkmystery> connecting two 9.10 machines means what rjb ?
[18:30] <rjb> raj-darkmystery i have my netbook and my desktop i want to connect
[18:30] <Myrtti> nu2linux: currently the predicted date is 29th
[18:30] <floww> pitwalker: i google it
[18:30] <valentinex> climenole: hey yes thats best my old fav clipboard manager
[18:30] <millertimek1a2m3> anyone here?
[18:30] <rjb> i can get a connection but now i cant share internet connection
[18:31] <Wild_Doogy> question, what takes less prossesing power to encode, vorbis or mp3?
[18:31] <raj-darkmystery> you can plug the cable and can access both endstations as soon as you assign IPs to them
[18:31] <nu2linux> Do you think it will be though
[18:31] <raj-darkmystery> rjb, you can plug the cable and can access both endstations as soon as you assign IPs to them
[18:31] <Wild_Doogy> rjb: you want to share wirless?
[18:31] <rjb> netbook is gateway configured auto eth0 ipv4 shared to other computers
[18:31] <pitwalker> floww: http://www.sysresccd.org/Download  the iso contains ranish boot entry
[18:32] <rjb> yes Wild_Doogy
[18:32] <pitwalker> floww: http://www.ranish.com/part/part.gif
[18:32] <Wild_Doogy> rjb:  you probably only need to se the 2nd computer to static I
[18:32] <Wild_Doogy> IP
[18:32] <floww> pitwalker:  do i need to burn it on a cd?
[18:32] <Myrtti> nu2linux: most likely
[18:33] <rjb> Wild_Doogy second computer has dhcp
[18:33] <rjb> is it ok?
[18:33] <Wild_Doogy> rjb: it is if it works
[18:33] <pitwalker> floww: if you can boot from real floppy: ranish can run form DOS also
[18:33] <Wild_Doogy> rjb: it might not get a IP served through DHCP
[18:33] <rjb> not working now
[18:33] <Wild_Doogy> rjb: so set as static..... not sure what range to set it in
[18:34] <Wild_Doogy> rjb: might be 10.1. something, or 192.168.1. something
[18:35] <Wild_Doogy> floww: somehow you messed up the MBR? and you want to get it dual booting again?
[18:36] <pitwalker> floww: you can not boot with DOS? you can not run the DOS's FDISK wit the /MBR switch?
[18:36] <Wild_Doogy> floww: Yes, thats another way, to fix it is through the windows setup disk
[18:37] <pitwalker> floww: for dual booting GAG is a good tool, naturally systemrescue CD contains ;-)
[18:37] <pitwalker> http://gag.sourceforge.net/
[18:37] <pitwalker> "Allows boot of up to 9 different operating systems."
[18:37] <floww> whats a dual botting gag
[18:38] <Wild_Doogy> Dual booting is booting windows and UBuntu at the same time
[18:38] <floww> umm pitwalker  it works without burning on cd aight?
[18:38] <Wild_Doogy> GAG (I am guessing) is a boot loader
[18:39] <pitwalker> I always install grub to the linux's root partition, GAG is working with this, or i can change the boot flag between primary partitions
[18:39] <floww> ima try it dawg
[18:39] <the-man> irc.telkom.net.id
[18:40] <floww> so i just run the exe right pitwalker ?
[18:40] <pitwalker> floww: official GAG have 2 image: a floppy and a CD ISO
[18:40] <floww> i dont have floppy and i cant burn cds
[18:40] <floww> since im joining with a live ubuntu cd
[18:41] <pitwalker> you can setup and run GAG from a floppy or to the first hard disk
[18:41] <bolex> Hi. My tablet works! But no pressure sensitivity (enabled in gimp but nothing happens)
[18:41] <Wild_Doogy> floww: you should really try testdisk then
[18:41] <Wild_Doogy> sudo apt-get install testdisk
[18:41] <Babu> SomethingXP
[18:41] <Cobwesel> is it possible to pwd protect the trashcan so it cant accidently be emptied by someone?
[18:41] <pitwalker> floww: GAG only OS independent, (ranish 2.40) PART.EXE can run OS independent or from dos
[18:42] <floww> pitwalker: how do i run it on harddisk
[18:43] <bolex> Should tablet pressure work out of the box?
[18:44] <ben_q> hey, can anyone tell me why this does not work as a command? → /usr/bin/xvkbd -xsendevent -text "\[Control_L]\[F1]
[18:44] <ZykoticK9> Cobwesel, trash can is user specific (each user has their own) it's located in "~/.local/share/Trash"
[18:44] <ben_q> want to bind a new key to the ctrl+F1 shortcut
[18:45] <pitwalker> floww: http://gag.sourceforge.net/gagn2.gif    save in hard disk option
[18:45] <ZummiG777> Question: How can I tell that a system requires a reboot?  There is the log message when you login, but is there a file or piece of data out there I can check for necessary reboots?
[18:46] <ZykoticK9> ZummiG777, in the up coming Lucid - the power button turns red when you need to reboot - under Karmic, i'm unaware of a way to test - other then getting the message after installing updates
[18:46] <trism> bolex: did you check that your tablet is set to Screen or Window in Edit/Preferences/Input Devices/Configure Extended Input Devices in the GIMP?
[18:47] <ZummiG777> Thanks ZykoticK9
[18:47] <bolex> trism haha yeah i just found that in a guide and it worked =D thanks
[18:47] <Giles> Hello my volume control applet has gone missing how can I get it back
[18:48] <ZykoticK9> Giles, is sound working on your system?  Did you happen to try to remove Pulse audio from your system?
[18:49] <Giles> ZykoticK9: pulseaudio is already at the newest version
[18:49] <Giles> says apt-get
[18:49] <Vigo> Giles: You can try the System>Main Menu , maybe, let me look....
[18:50] <Giles> Vigo: there is no System->Main Menu
[18:50] <Whisky> Im trying to install Kubuntu on my HP notebook with Vista. I have 4 partitions on Vista along with 20 gigs of free space that I want to install Kubuntu on. kubuntu installer is asking me if I want to install them side by side and the other option that im interested in is USE THE LARGEST CONTINUOUS FREE SPACE. If I select this, would I lose dual boot?
[18:50] <hihihi100> holies.. 4 partitions
[18:51] <Whisky> and when I click INSTALL SIDE BY SIDE, I get a little moveable aero with the free space shown
[18:51] <Whisky> haha yes it's FILES, GAMES, MUSIC and WINDOWS :p
[18:51] <Vigo> Giles: Found it on the Forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422515&highlight=volume+icon+missing
[18:52] <hihihi100> i need help regarding SCIM
[18:52] <Giles> Vigo ah my indicator applet is failing I think
[18:52] <hihihi100> everytime I log in, the icon disappears
[18:52] <hihihi100> and it shouldnt
[18:52] <shan> has someone had any luck with installing avertV ultra 116 on ubuntu?
[18:52] <hihihi100> is this more effective than ubuntuforums?
[18:52] <Vigo> Giles: I think that thread in the Forums covers it.
[18:52] <_21h_> hi all. i cant add twitter, identi.ca or qaiku account in gwibber under 10.04. its bug or something else?
[18:54] <Vigo> I have to re-boot, back in a bit.
[18:54] <Giles> Vigo: None of those things helped
[18:55] <Giles> E: Couldn't find package indicator-sound
[18:55] <steve____> quit
[18:55] <steve____> exit
[18:55] <rance> Im trying to install ubuntu as a guest os in virtualbox on a windows 7 64 bit host.  the install goes fine.  I then use the system updater to get everything current.  Then the second or third reboot later networking stops no data is passed on the virtual nic.  No dhcp address no nothing.  the live cd always has networking.  What is going on, anybody know?
[18:55] <arpad_> hello
[18:56] <Giles> rance: try #virtualbox?
[18:56] <hihihi100> hi there
[18:57] <lubse> hey
[18:57] <hihihi100> SCIM
[18:57] <Giles> hi hihihi100
[18:57] <hihihi100> my question has to do with SCIM
[18:57] <Giles> really SCIM you say?
[18:57] <hihihi100> everytime i log in, the icon disappears
[18:57] <lrb> join #virtualbox
[18:57] <CarlFK> app says "<client:WARN> QT sounds are not available"  - guessing this is an alsa/pulse/oss thing.  is there something I can do to make the app happy?
[18:57] <Giles> whats SCIM?
[18:57] <hihihi100> an input editor
[18:57] <hcl2> CarlFK: which app?
[18:58] <Giles> hihihi100: is your question about it?
[18:58] <hihihi100> yes
[18:58] <overmind> !scim | Giles
[18:58] <CarlFK> hcl2: yate client
[18:58] <Giles> vigo
[18:59] <Myrtti> !lucid | _21h_
[18:59] <CarlFK> hcl2: part of http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/yate
[19:00] <hihihi100> anyhow, could it be an EXT4 upgrade related problem?
[19:02] <hihihi100> and the official site is so outdated
[19:03] <purplebluesilver> FreezingUbuntu person is back in the house. I ran the memtest last night to completion. (Ah, then I had a cigarette.) It took 2:22 hours and change. BUT in the AM when I pressed ESCAPE it didnt do anything. In fact nothing I pressed did anything and I tried to try it all. I noticed that the Numlock lisght was on. Nothing was blinking. And so here I am again, imposing on your good graces. (AMD-Ubuntu 9.10- nothing fancy uses browser, xchat, transmission,
[19:03] <purplebluesilver>  gedit, sometimes OpenO.)
[19:04] <Hawky> hi
[19:04] <Neo--> are there any other file managers for ubuntu instead of nautilus?
[19:04] <iustinian> purplebluesilver: sounds like a hardware failure something i suggest to check the motherboards condensators for leak or bloatings
[19:05] <Hawky> konqueror, dolphin are the first two that spring to mind
[19:05] <eremite> Neo--: pcmanfm, thunar, midnight commander
[19:05] <iustinian> does mc qualifies as file manager ?
[19:05] <mattish> any way around the ext4 free space issue ?
[19:05] <mattish> ive got a 58gb /home that is being reported as 19gb
[19:06] <iustinian> 58 gb ?????
[19:07] <mattish> why so supprised ?
[19:07] <eremite> mattish: I have a 250GB HD but after installing Ubuntu for the first time it's ALWAYS (after several reinstalls, formats and partitionings) says it's only 230.  Its missing 20+ gigs
[19:07] <justin_> come posso avere l'accelerazione della scheda video in 3 D
[19:07] <justin_> ?
[19:07] <iustinian> !it
[19:07] <mattish> but i know this /dev/sda2 partition is 58gb and formatted as such
[19:07] <mattish> but being reported as 19gb
[19:07] <eremite> !it | justin_
[19:08] <mattish> the first partition is actually 19gb /dev/sda1
[19:08] <mattish> its just showing every other partition on that disk as 19gb aswell :( even when they are not
[19:09] <hihihi100> this may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1433869
[19:09] <hihihi100> Ext2/3/4 enables setting aside a fixed percentage of the disk space for use by root. The idea is that if a user process runs out of control and fills the hard disk, the administrator will still have enough free space to log in and fix the problem. By default, these filesystems set aside 5% of the disk space for this purpose. Unfortunately, 5% adds up to a lot of space on big modern drives.
[19:09] <wterrey> Brasero says this when I try to convert this file to DVD.  "Fireproof.DVDRip.XViD.cd1.avi" is not suitable for audio or video media.Anyone know what the problem is
[19:10] <mattish> 5% of 58gb would be around 3gb im missing alot more than that
[19:11] <hihihi100> have u tried sudo umount /path/to/drive
[19:11] <hihihi100> sudo tune2fs -m 0 ?
[19:11] <linxeh> mattish: maybe the whole GiB vs GB issue too ?
[19:12] <purplebluesilver> lustian is that real or made up?  [QUOTE]i suggest to check the motherboards condensators for leak or bloatings
[19:12] <PatrickGleason> its pronounced : jig a bite
[19:12] <purplebluesilver> lol
[19:12] <blass_> Hello
[19:12] <PatrickGleason> issue resolved
[19:12] <mattish> possible but i dont think so
[19:12] <mattish> im sure someone in here mentioned about an issue before
[19:13] <iustinian> purplebluesilver: it is very real, 10 years of 3rd line support says so
[19:13] <linxeh> mattish: what is the output of df ?
[19:13] <mattish> 19gb total size
[19:13] <guntbert> purplebluesilver: thats definitely for real - we had to replace some on every MB from a given series
[19:13] <linxeh> mattish: can you pm me the output ?
[19:14] <guntbert> linxeh: have him pastebin it
[19:14] <rabbit1> which is the best racing game in ubnutu?
[19:15] <PatrickGleason> ! racing
[19:15] <mattish> doh ill pastebin it one tic
[19:15] <purplebluesilver> ok, will see about this. TY
[19:15] <purplebluesilver> toodles
[19:15] <guntbert> !best | rabbit1
[19:15] <PatrickGleason> worth a shot :/
[19:15] <Vigo> wterrey: Any resolution yet?
[19:15] <mrguitar> can someone help me w/ a kickstart for karmic?
[19:16] <mattish> df output: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/yAen1MUm
[19:16] <linxeh> mattish: ok, can you also pastebin the output of sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda1
[19:17] <mattish> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/38wb9w7M
[19:17] <mattish> is fdisk
[19:17] <linxeh> mattish: and redo the df without the -h
[19:17] <mattish> one tic ill do the tune2fs
[19:17] <mattish> sorry :p
[19:17] <linxeh> k
[19:17] <FloodBot1> mattish: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:17] <mattish> habbit
[19:17] <iustinian> !kickstart
[19:18] <linxeh> mattish: also, can you do du -h /lost+found
[19:19] <EgYPaRaDoX> My friend has ubuntu  (karmic koala) and he updated it, he installed kubuntu-desktop , the kernel crashes
[19:19] <EgYPaRaDoX> i mean the new
[19:19] <mattish> what does that tune2fs command do ? ok to do on a mounted and inuse partition ?
[19:19] <tmwsiy20121> Is there a way to set an interface ip without a gateway in NetworkManager?
[19:20] <linxeh> mattish: its a way of setting partition parameters that you normally set when you create the partition. the -l option prints all the current settinsg for the given partition
[19:20] <linxeh> mattish: yes, it is safe
[19:20] <linxeh> mattish: other options for it might not be however
[19:21] <ata2> hello guys, I remember that there was an utility able to create DEB packaged directly from post-make files, how was it called? It was really a one-liner command
[19:21] <iustinian> tmwsiy20121: man ip
[19:21] <asmund> I'm trying out lucid beta, but can't seem to get the gwibber part of the "Social menu" to work. No messages are popping up, and I can't add more than one account, there is no response when I push the "add" button
[19:21] <iustinian> or ip addr help
[19:21] <SecretofMana> Asmund: I suffered from that same issue, restarting fixed it
[19:21] <mattish> Ive put all the output into one pastebin: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/7h4Kdbta
[19:21] <linxeh>  ok
[19:22] <guntbert> !lucid > asmund
[19:22] <tmwsiy20121> iustiniam: trying to do it in NetworkManager though, it wont let me apply without a gateway
[19:22] <SecretofMana> !lucid > SecretofMana
[19:22] <mattish> am i doing something stupid as usual ? :)
[19:22] <linxeh> hmm, well that looks about right
[19:23] <linxeh> 1GB of reserved space (ie 5%)
[19:23] <linxeh> that adds up doesnt it ?
[19:23] <trism> ata2: do you mean checkinstall?
[19:23] <trism> !checkinstall | ata2
[19:23] <TommyThaGun> !lucid > TommyThaGun
[19:23] <exalt> does it matter if i install ubuntu in logical or primary partitions?
[19:24] <mattish> so is that formatted as 19gb ?
[19:24] <makkalot> hi all can someone help me with my radeon hd 3650 ,i'm using radeon driver and have black screen when startx,i'm able to use my system with vesa, xorg.conf : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/196074/  xorg.log : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/196073/
[19:24] <ata2> yes possibly checkinstall ;)
[19:24] <linxeh> mattish: its formatted as 19GB yes
[19:25] <wolter> can somebody help me in a very simple problem? Nicotine SLSK client always opens up when apt-get goes through 'Processing triggers for menu'
[19:25] <guntbert> mattish: I've seen similar things, when one wanted to increase his partition and didn't finish the job. might that be the case here?
[19:25] <mattish> guntbert, Im not sure now you mention that, I seem to remember moving the partitions around awhileago
[19:25] <linxeh> mattish: hangon I was looking at the wrong partition
[19:26] <linxeh> mattish: but yeah, it looks like sda2 / home is formatted as 19GB
[19:26] <zroysch> why is Xorg using 81% cpu, how do i stop it? 2776 root      20   0  445m 122m  24m R   81  6.2  82:37.67 Xorg
[19:26] <mattish> doh linxeh my fault, i ran the tune2fs on /dev/sda1 and its sda2 in question
[19:27] <iustinian> zroysch: some flash plugin in firefox possible
[19:27] <ata2> trism: thanks trism
[19:27] <zroysch> iustinian: just closed firefox. still happening
[19:27] <guntbert> mattish: my first advice: boot from a live CD and run fsck -f on all partitions in that HD (-f means do it even it is seemingly ok)
[19:27] <iustinian> zroysch: is it happening on a freshly rebooted system as well ?
[19:28] <zroysch> iustinian: just closed chrome. still happening
[19:28] <mattish> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ip1vT1mW with /dev/sda2
[19:28] <mrguitar> I copied the karmic iso to my web server. and the kickststart client hangs on "the installer failed to download a file from the mirror."
[19:28] <zroysch> Xort at 97% cpu now.
[19:28] <zroysch> Xorg.
[19:28] <mrguitar> my clients won't have internet access while kickstart"ing
[19:28] <mrguitar> is this possible
[19:28] <zroysch> iustinian: no, it just started happening.
[19:28] <iustinian> zroysch: frankyl i have no ideea
[19:28] <jetole> Hey guys. Does anyone know how mature 10.4 is? I'm thinking about installing it tonight but I know it's still ~month from being an official release
[19:29] <linxeh> mattish: ok that is the same, 19GB formatted. you should be able to resize it with resize2fs I guess
[19:29] <iustinian> mrguitar: i though kickstart is dependent on network
[19:29] <jetole> ugh, don't use kickstart for ubuntu. It was never made for that and has always lacked features
[19:29] <mattish> so it looks like its formatted as 19gb although the partition its self is larger ?
[19:29] <zroysch> 99% CPU. exellent
[19:29] <guntbert> !lucid | jetole
[19:29] <mrguitar> iustinian: local network.
[19:30] <jetole> guntbert: thanks for the room name to join
[19:30] <mrguitar> jetole: I'm happy to use preseed but I'm failing at that as well.
[19:30] <guntbert> jetole: np - have fun :)
[19:30] <jetole> mrguitar: I use preseed and it works great. I just came in so maybe I missed something
[19:30] <jetole> what part are you failing at?
[19:30] <jetole> there are preseed docs for ubuntu
[19:31] <mrguitar> jetole: "the installer failed to download a file from the mirror."
[19:31] <disappearedng> Hey i attached my ext hd to my computer and nothing shows up in gnome. I tailed /var/log/message and it clearly showed that the hd is plugged in. is there an eqauvalent of /etc/fstab for this purpose?
[19:31] <mrguitar> I had one setup for 7.04 and it worked great
[19:31] <jetole> mrguitar: when does it say that?
[19:31] <jetole> I have used preseed from 6.10 to current in the both the office and at the data center
[19:32] <mattish> would it be easier to erase that partition and recreate it ?
[19:32] <mrguitar> do you install over the internet or from a local repository
[19:32] <linxeh> mattish: yeah
[19:32] <linxeh> mattish: to the first bit
[19:32] <linxeh> mattish: its pretty easy to resize :)
[19:32] <jetole> mrguitar: local, I use apt-cacher-ng
[19:32] <mattish> wonder how i managed to mess that up
[19:32] <mrguitar> maybe my problem is copying the iso to the web server.
[19:32] <jetole> mrguitar: anyways, good luck. I'm at the office and I have a lot to do right now but read the ubuntu preseed docs
[19:32] <mrguitar> does that not work anymore
[19:33] <jetole> mrguitar: whoa
[19:33] <jetole> don't use a iso if installing over the net
[19:33] <mrguitar> ah
[19:33] <jetole> one sec
[19:33] <guntbert> mattish: may I guess? partition magic?
[19:33] <benishor> any developer that used cmake before ?
[19:33] <mattish> never use the thing
[19:33] <arabica> bsd cmake?
[19:33] <mattish> all partitioned with fdisk
[19:33] <benishor> arabica: any cmake
[19:34] <benishor> and by using it I mean actually writing CMakeLists.txt files
[19:34] <mattish> actually it may have been cfdisk, it was from within ubuntu atleast, so probably my fault rather than the application :)
[19:35] <jetole> mrguitar: I'm looking for the link right now but you need to download a seperate kernel and initrd to do a net install
[19:35] <jetole> ad both the kernel and especially the initrd are designed for it
[19:35] <mrguitar> I grabed the netinstall kernel and initrd
[19:35] <jetole> the iso does not have the support in the initrd. IT WILL NOT WORK!
[19:35] <jetole> mrguitar: then what is the ISO for?
[19:36] <mrguitar> I'm using the netinstall initrd. I copied the karmic iso to my web server. like you would a RHEL iso.
[19:36] <jetole> oooookay
[19:36] <mrguitar> I'm clearly missing a step
[19:36] <jetole> it's not redhat
[19:36] <jetole> read the docs
[19:36] <mrguitar> :)
[19:36] <mrguitar> I have been
[19:37] <mrguitar> do i need a local apt mirror
[19:37] <jetole> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/installation-guide/powerpc/preseed-using.html
[19:37] <zroysch> how do i make Xorg stop using 99% CPU and sending my temps over 95C
[19:37] <WierdAAR> Can anybody spot an wireless controller in this -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/407196/
[19:38] <jetole> mrguitar: you don't need the apt mirror but it takes longer from the net, if you use a apt cacher it downloads it once so if you do a lot of installs then the first one will be as slow as downloading from the net but with the cacher it will mean all other installs will be fast
[19:39] <jetole> mrguitar: apt-cacher-ng acts like a proxy, the first time a package is asked for it downloads it. After that it stores it and has it locally for all other computers requesting the same package but if you are only preseeding one computer then don't bother with a cache but then again with only one computer, don't worry about preseeding either
[19:39] <jetole> also make sure you have dhcp running.
[19:39] <jetole> ok, I am gone. Good luck mrguitar
[19:39] <mrguitar> thanks
[19:40] <jereanon> hello.. I'm trying to mount a NAS on my network (D-LINK DNS-323)     using: smbclient //192.168.1.4/Volume_1 I have no problem browsing the device, but I'm trying to add it to my fstab to have it automount on startup and I'm testing that using this: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.4/Volume_1 /media/DNS
[19:40] <hcl2> mrguitar: i just installed yesterady from the mini.iso and copied the files to a usb drive.  net install went file w/o burning a cd
[19:40] <jereanon> and I'm getting 'failed to access volume '...': No such file or directory
[19:42] <fatleader> irc.mp3passion
[19:45] <Korcia> good night everybody, may someone told me why empathy has been removed in the latest upgrade in lucid
[19:45] <newbie> good night see you
[19:45] <newbie> bye
[19:45] <iamnotaguest> Hey, for developing server apps etc, what language would you suggest in Linux? I'd use C# in Windows
[19:45] <iamnotaguest> I was looking at python, but is that really suitable?
[19:46] <trism> Korcia: you should join #ubuntu+1 for lucid discussion, but the topic there says that gnome 2.30 is being uploaded, so not to upgrade yet, which likely may be your problem with empathy
[19:46] <mrguitar> here's my situation. I need to automate ubuntu deployments in areas w/ no internet access. We've been distributing VMs that are PXE/kickstart servers. I was able to make this work w/ 7.04, but I'm missing something in karmic.
[19:46] <erUSUL> iamnotaguest: looked at mono implementation of ASP.NET ?
[19:47] <newbie> Is this good english?=The first trial already blew.
[19:47] <BluesKaj> iamnotaguest, why not check the server OS apps to see what they're written in
[19:47] <jereanon> iamnotaguest, python is suitable for lots of things. Java would be very suitable for that scenario
[19:47] <iamnotaguest> erUSUL: I know there's mono, but I want something better supported accross servers.
[19:47] <mrguitar> I'd love to use preseed but I'm not sure how to create the install source on my web server (the VM)
[19:47] <iamnotaguest> jereanon: I hate Java.
[19:47] <iamnotaguest> BluesKaj: Very good idea !
[19:47] <jereanon> iamnotaguest, and you like c#?
[19:47] <iamnotaguest> jereanon: Aye, I do indeed :)
[19:47] <beernarrd_> hi
[19:48] <iamnotaguest> I just duslike java as a user
[19:48] <jereanon> iamnotaguest, well..  sounds like you don't know much about java
[19:48] <iamnotaguest> Meh, I see no point in learning it
[19:48] <newbie> I would use win32 API to get the smallest program
[19:48] <iamnotaguest> I figure I may as well learn something foreign to me as well
[19:49] <newbie> hard but woth it
[19:49] <beernarrd_> i have one little question :
[19:49] <beernarrd_> has anybody else had troubles with logitech mouses recently
[19:49] <beernarrd_> M
[19:49] <beernarrd_> ?
[19:49] <newbie> nope
[19:49] <newbie> have one
[19:50] <beernarrd_> i have two of them and both stopped working this week
[19:50] <beernarrd_> funny coincidence...
[19:50] <newbie> win or ubuntu
[19:50] <newbie> ?
[19:50] <hagabaka> why aren't ruby1.9 and ruby1.9.1 set as alternatives for ruby?
[19:50] <Liquid-Silence> guys what font is the menu font in the screenshot? http://nikkee.deviantart.com/art/Openbox-Shot-July-16-2008-91822268?offset=10#comments
[19:50] <Vigo> beernarrd_maybe is not the software, check the hardware.
[19:50] <beernarrd_> ubuntu, karmic
[19:50] <nis> hello
[19:50] <newbie> looks like somebody blocked them
[19:51] <beernarrd_> vigo: I ve thaught so, but two at the same time on differnet comps?
[19:51] <nis> how do i uninstall from terminal after i have written "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[19:51] <newbie> if the lights are out its the hardware or they're getting no juice
[19:52] <erUSUL> nis: sudo apt-get purge xchat
[19:52] <nis> ty
[19:52] <newbie> might wanna check if the usb ports have power
[19:52] <newbie> Is this good english?=The first trial already blew.
[19:52] <beernarrd_> i have well this output on lsusb: Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:c525 Logitech, Inc.
[19:53] <Vigo> beernarrd_: That is odd, pastebin it?
[19:53] <beernarrd_> what's pastebin?
[19:53] <Vigo> !pastebin
[19:54] <newbie> good that means that it's still working
[19:55] <pinky__> My husband just installed Leeenux on my msi wind, I've never used linux before and every time i start up my computer the screen brightness controls flash for a while. does anyone know why or how to stop it?
[19:55] <newbie> but the mouses are not mounted
[19:55] <TomT> Hi. Think I've just BURG'd my PC. Menu appears OK, Windoze boots, but not Ubuntu. Any Ideas ?
[19:55] <newbie> *mice
[19:56] <newbie> Is this good english?=The first trial already blew.
[19:56] <Vigo> TomT: Fix Grub?
[19:56] <beernarrd_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/407202/
[19:56] <beernarrd_> how do you mean mounted?
[19:57] <mrguitar> I found the problem - I need to use the alternate install iso
[19:57] <TomT> Vigo: How ?
[19:57] <mrguitar> dang. waste of a morning
[19:57] <newbie> beernarrd_: the usb driver shows the device but the HID driver has to connect it to the system
[19:57] <onur> asdaki
[19:58] <Vigo> TomT: Which version are you running?
[19:58] <newbie> beernarrd_: that is like mounting
[19:59] <beernarrd_> how do i check the HID?
[19:59] <TomT> Ubuntu 9.10, BURG Installed tonight following forum advice !
[20:00] <Vigo> beernarrd_: That looks good, have a look here> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471
[20:00] <newbie> Can somebody please check if the following sentence is good english. The trial already blew.
[20:01] <Vigo> TomT: Let me look that up, for you.
[20:01] <omikron4> newbie what sentence?
[20:01] <TomT> Vigo: Thanks.. My thread on the forum is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1443548&page=2
[20:01] <yoda__> hi
[20:01] <yoda__> I need help
[20:02] <yoda__> I have installed ubuntu Koala
[20:02] <yoda__> and I wish to have even Knoppix together
[20:02] <sktrdie> hi, i think there was a windows exacutable that let you install Ubuntu on a USB drive, any idea?
[20:02] <zim> hi all is there a #ubuntu-server room?
[20:02] <Vigo> TomT: Here it is> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275&highlight=fix+grub
[20:02] <overmind> zim: Yes
[20:02] <yoda__> but I have to set Grub properly
[20:02] <yoda__> can anyone help me?
[20:02] <TomT> Vigo: Thanks :)
[20:03] <zim> overmind: ty
[20:03] <yoda__> none ? :'(
[20:03] <boolean> afternoon, anyone tried google's chrome on ubuntu?
[20:03] <Vigo> TomT: You are very welcome, I hope that is the resolution for the error.
[20:03] <overmind> yoda__: Be patience :P
[20:03] <yoda__> ok :)
[20:03] <omikron4> yoda__, perhaps you have to see the grub,cfg
[20:03] <yoda__> grub.cfg ?
[20:03] <zus> anyone get Runes of Magic to install with wine? i get all the way up to the patch and then it closes
[20:03] <yoda__> ok
[20:04] <yoda__> I can see it now
[20:04] <eremite> !ubuntu-1 | yoda
[20:04] <eremite> !ubuntu+1 | yoda
[20:04] <yoda__> what eremite?
[20:04] <omikron4> and check if hd correspond to partition
[20:04] <yoda__> I have karmic Koala
[20:04] <boolean> lucid is the next for LTS correct?
[20:04] <yoda__> not lucid lynx
[20:04] <yoda__> <i don't know what is lucid
[20:05] <eremite> Oh, you said Karmic.  My mistake (loooooong day)
[20:05] <yoda__> I have get a tutorial
[20:05] <yoda__> and they told that I had to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:05] <eremite> zus: does the WINE site say that game is supported?
[20:05] <yoda__> but it didn't exist in karmic koala
[20:05] <eremite> yoda__: you have grub2 not grub
[20:05] <yoda__> so I should edit grub.cfg
[20:05] <yoda__> ahh
[20:06] <yoda__> ok
[20:06] <yoda__> so i have toe dit grub.cfg ?
[20:06] <yoda__> true?
[20:06] <FloodBot1> yoda__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:06] <yoda__> can you show me a tutorial?
[20:06] <overmind> !enter | yoda__
[20:06] <yoda__> ok sorry
[20:06] <yoda__> ok sorry
[20:06] <yoda__> :$
[20:07] <eremite> yoda__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[20:07] <yoda__> can anyone show me a good tutorial about configure a multiboot
[20:07] <yoda__> ah ok
[20:07] <overmind> yoda__: Don't worry about it, just don't use enter as punctuation for prevent be quieted by FloodBots
[20:07] <yoda__> ok
[20:07] <yoda__> I will study that link ..later
[20:08] <zus> eremite,  yea, i read from the winehq site and watched a youtube video...and read a forum with the confirmation that it works...so far i get to where the game patches...im atm looking to see if i can get this going, while i thought id ask
[20:08] <TomT> Vigo: Will fixing grub remove BURG ?  Just checking !!
[20:08] <rjb> i am sharing internet connection between two computers? how can i share documents?
[20:08] <Serraphyn> zus, did you ask in #winehq?
[20:08] <eremite> zus: sorry I cant help.
[20:09] <lazarus> hi all
[20:09] <Vigo> TomT: I am uncertain, but it seems like that thread says it does.
[20:09] <Serraphyn> rjb: man samba
[20:09] <zus> Serraphyn, oh thanks didnt know there was a channel...
[20:09] <Session416> Hi, I was told to come here for some help. I'm pretty new to linux in general and I feel really dumb. :(
[20:09] <rjb> Serraphyn ok
[20:09] <zus> eremite,  thanks as well
[20:09] <dj_segfault> Session416: Step one: Ask a question
[20:09] <rjb> Serraphyn i have two ubuntu machines only
[20:10] <beernarrd_> Vigo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/407208/ --> it seems as it's been recognised two times, once as a mouse and once as a kbd
[20:10] <Serraphyn> Session416, ask away, people help with what they can.
[20:10] <iamnotaguest> dj_segfault: +1!
[20:10] <eremite> rjb: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[20:10] <zus> Serraphyn,  though there is no one there hah
[20:10] <zus> wait lol
[20:10] <TomT> OK Thanks
[20:10] <Serraphyn> zus, unfortunately it ebbs and flows in that channel, You'll find though that WINE and its related issues are offtopic for here, might try in #ubuntu-offtopic also
[20:11] <Session416> I'm running Ubuntu netbook revolution and I'm having sound issues - mostly the sound doesn't work but sometimes it does. I've been running through a troubleshooting list and it indicates that my soundcard isn't supported, but if that was the main issue I'd think the sound wouldn't work at all rather than intermittently =/
[20:11] <lantizia_> Has anyone ever come in here asking where they can buy a copy of your product?
[20:11] <zus> Serraphyn,  thanks  i clicked the link you gave wich had the ? as part of the channel name
[20:11] <eremite> Serraphyn: WINE issues are supported here, correct me if I am wrong.  Canonical supports all apps that it cleams to in the repos, correct?
[20:11] <Serraphyn> Session416, Not supported doesn't always mean dead parts.
[20:12] <Serraphyn> eremite, I have been told that its not supported here many times by administrators of this channel.
[20:12] <kushalone> lantizia_: you can buy a _copy_ of their product. Just go to ubuntu.com and order your dvd
[20:12] <dj_segfault> Session416: Yes, if it works sometimes it's probably supported.  When it stops working, try closing Firefox.  If that doesn't fix it, try "pulseaudio -k && pulseaudio --start"
[20:12] <lantizia_> kushalone: lol I know, I was just wondering if ever came in and asked that question?
[20:13] <eremite> Session416: you're the 100th person to complain about sound and Ubuntu sicne the latest release.  Patience will get you answers since so many people have experience with this problem.  Stuick around and hope for the best.
[20:13] <Session416> dj_segfault: It's not just in Firefox that I have issues though
[20:13] <eremite> Serraphyn: isnt wine on the cannonical list of applications they provide support for?  I believe so....
[20:13] <Session416> I know my soundcard isn't on the list of soundcards that ALSA supports though.
[20:13] <Serraphyn> eremite, support from ubuntu, but not from this Channel
[20:13] <lantizia_> HEY Session416 !  Have a nice pretty picture to show how bad Linux Audio is :) http://imagebin.ca/view/4FoUFue.html
[20:14] <dj_segfault> Session416: Understood, but sometimes Firefox (actually the Flash plugin or other plugins) "steal" the sound card and prevent other apps from accessing it while they're running.
[20:14] <Serraphyn> Session416, have you tried other audio servers?
[20:14] <lazarus> i wish to make a bash script to resize the gnome panels to 19 would anyone be able to assist me?
[20:14] <kushalone> Has anyone had any experience with Canonical support? How is it?
[20:14] <tachiro1> holy .."S"
[20:14] <tachiro1> i've been wondering wtf is up with sound in general
[20:14] <dj_segfault> lantizia_: Excellent!!!!
[20:14] <Session416> dj_segfault: Ahh, I get you. I'll give that a try.
[20:14] <dj_segfault> Session416: Good luck
[20:14] <eremite> lazarus: just right click on the gnome panel, choose PROPERTIES and change it manually?
[20:14] <Session416> Serraphyn: This is going to make me sound really dumb but I'm not entirely sure what that means. :(
[20:15] <Paranoir> Can anyone help me. I've installed backtrack on my laptop, but I'm not able to find/connect to a wireless network?
[20:15] <Session416> I'm going through the troubleshooting list and I feel like I'm blindfolded in a cave being remotely guided by someone who kind of knows the general layout of the cave
[20:15] <Serraphyn> Session416, TBH that might not be a goodt hing to worry with for you then.  take what dj_segfault said and go with that
[20:15] <lazarus> eremite, i have like a system restore type script i wish to add it to
[20:15] <eremite> Session416: an audio server, such as ALSA, is what plays the music for you.  If you try another server like PulseAudio ro OSS then you might be able to get it working,
[20:16] <tachiro1> man this is kinda heavy traffic here
[20:16] <tachiro1> interesting about the whole sound thing
[20:16] <eremite> lazarus: why bother, it's just a matter of spending 10 seconds adjusting them again.
[20:16] <lantizia_> Hey... Debian Sid has "SWAT" down as unmaintained, security issues, and generally getting incompatible with samba... does Canonical consider it a problem enough for it to drop it?
[20:16] <Serraphyn> tachiro1, its usually pretty busy here as lots of new people start on Ubuntu in the linux world.
[20:16] <BitByte> lazarus: a drunk...
[20:16] <fefi> hola
[20:16] <tachiro1> yea, i guess i'd be one of them lol
[20:16] <fefi> hola
[20:16] <Session416> eremite: Ah, thanks. I'm not sure how to try another one though, it might be a little over my head. I'll try the Firefox thing first and then see if I can look up how to do that without ruining my computer :p
[20:17] <Paranoir> Can anyone help me. I've installed backtrack on my laptop, but I'm not able to find/connect to a wireless network?
[20:17] <eremite> !es
[20:17] <lazarus> BitByte, ?
[20:17] <BitByte> lol
[20:17] <fefi> ksdncki
[20:17] <fefi> hello
[20:17] <tachiro1> i can relate to the bad sound quality issue though, is one audio server better than the other? or is it just different, and suits different people?
[20:17] <tachiro1> apparently i'm using alsa
[20:18] <Serraphyn> tachiro1, different strokes for different folks(and hardware)
[20:18] <tachiro1> hmm, i wonder what would be good for a laptop
[20:18] <eremite> tachiro1: its a linux specific problem, thats for sure.  Audio dies in games for me, no reason why.  This same machine works flawlessly with windows installed.
[20:18] <mattish> every time i start my machine the soundcard is in a different state, its quite annoying :(
[20:18] <Serraphyn> Its not so much a linux issue as its drivers for hardware
[20:18] <tachiro1> interesting, well hopefull by linux's design i could work around this
[20:19] <Serraphyn> Specially when you have some manufactures that refuse to opensource driver code
[20:19] <brainbox> hey umm... i installed the latest greatest ubuntu, and the themes and fonts look like crap o_O
[20:19] <tachiro1> oooh ok
[20:19] <Serraphyn> tachiro1, if you know how to do driver programming you will have little issue with anything in linux.
[20:19] <eremite> Serraphyn: I have Intel drivers.  Ubuntu claims to install the proper drivers fro Intel automatically, but they dont work like they do in Windows, which is flawlessly.  Its a linux problem because no other OS does this.  Only linux.
[20:19] <tachiro1> interesting
[20:20] <tachiro1> may have to grab a book with this one
[20:20] <Serraphyn> eremite, no thats a DRIVER issue, the OS itself works fine.
[20:20] <eremite> Serraphyn: end-users dont program or know how to compile drivers on their own.
[20:20] <beernarrd_> newbie: About logitech mouse problem - check http://paste.ubuntu.com/407208/ - seems funny to have two handlers for the same device
[20:20] <arabica> brainbox: and just 2 poor icons on your desktop?
[20:20] <Crepy> Im trying to write a script, but i would need information if some service is running or not. Is there any command for seeing that (Or do i have to parse something bigger =( )
[20:20] <eremite> Serraphyn: its a linux specific problem because only Linux OS use this type of sound servers.  Linux problem.
[20:20] <brainbox> no, im refering to the themes fucks up mozilla and everything
[20:21] <eremite> Crepy: you might have better luck in #bash
[20:21] <arabica> brainbox: gee, what can you expect for? it's free
[20:21] <brainbox> almost enough to make me want to go back to bsd ugggh
[20:21] <Crepy> maybe, but this is also question for unbuntu :P
[20:21] <Serraphyn> Crepy, tried ps aux | grep servicename
[20:21] <haros> I have somehow managed to lose the fn keys that takes wifi up and down, anybody able to help?
[20:21] <Crepy> ok thanks =)
[20:21] <Crepy> Handy also for situations when you arent scripting
[20:22]  * brainbox prays to the ubuntu gods they will show mercy and fix the themes... or remove them all togather
[20:22] <arabica> brainbox: ubuntu won't waste a drop of tear on you
[20:22] <Serraphyn> eremite, there are many other linux distros out there and some have issues with other things and not sound.  So if you want to be ignorant and blame an entire OS for a driver issue, then by all means go back to carebear land and use windows
[20:22] <arabica> brainbox: without you, nothing will happen
[20:23] <brainbox> ... u make it sound like im being conscripted
[20:23] <arabica> me too
[20:23] <arabica> this is ubuntu
[20:24] <oscar_> hi champions
[20:24] <CooPs89> hello I'm trying to enable active FTP in iptables
[20:24] <CooPs89> modprobe ip_conntrack_ftp
[20:24] <brainbox> i don't get why the fonts look so shitty...
[20:24] <brainbox> maybe ill blame xorg
[20:25] <alessandro_> lista
[20:25] <CooPs89> "works" but gives me no output
[20:25] <CooPs89> iptables -A INPUT -m helper --helper ftp -j ACCEPT
[20:25] <CooPs89> gives me
[20:25] <Serraphyn> brainbox, Have you tried adjusting DPI, Refresh rate, and other such things?
[20:25] <CooPs89> iptables: No chain/target/match by that name.
[20:25] <brainbox> not yet but im about ready to just remove the themes altogather
[20:25] <brainbox> lol
[20:26] <RobertZaccour> how do i update proprietary wireless drivers?
[20:26] <Serraphyn> brainbox, tried running chrome? lol the fonts 99% of the time look like legos to me
[20:26] <Serraphyn> RobertZaccour, have you been the manufactures website and downloaded new drivers?
[20:26] <Session416> I tried closing firefox and it didn't help with the sound. So I tried entering "pulseaudio -k && pulseaudio --start" and it doesn't seem to have done anything either. Should something show up in my terminal when I enter that in?
[20:27] <BigMao> Hi there,
[20:27] <Serraphyn> Session416, Did you use sudo pulseaudio -k .... ?
[20:27] <RobertZaccour> Serraphyn, no
[20:27] <BigMao> After the latest update and reboot, something is wrong with my desktop.  All of the icons are gone, and I can't click + drag.  I know that the files are still in the Desktop directory.  Anyone have an idea for a fix?
[20:27] <Serraphyn> RobertZaccour, and your wireless is working?
[20:27] <Session416> oh, lol, I suppose I should probably do that. I'm really new to linux.
[20:27] <Serraphyn> !sudo | Session416
[20:27] <RobertZaccour> Serraphyn, yes
[20:28] <Serraphyn> RobertZaccour, to quote a military mechanic, don't fix what ain't broken.
[20:28] <Session416> Okay, now it's actually saying stuff but it looks like an error
[20:28] <beernarrd_> BigMao: seems as nautilus is not working
[20:29] <Serraphyn> BigMao, can you ALT+F2 and type in nautilus and it works?
[20:30] <BigMao> Serraphyn, thanks. I will try that
[20:30] <Serraphyn> may need do use dpkg-reconfigure xorgserver
[20:30] <BigMao> beernarrd_, give me a moment :)
[20:30] <BigMao> Serraphyn, that worked.  The stuff is back
[20:30] <BigMao> How did you know?
[20:30] <beernarrd_> happened to me too, once.
[20:30] <ARishi> I added the fish applet in the panel and wanda the fish is dead. But clicking on the fish for the quotation displays: Look at today's date. What a awesome april fools joke. (its april 1st by me timezone)
[20:30] <BigMao> beernarrd_, my system crashed right before the reboot
[20:30] <BigMao> so that might have caused it
[20:31] <BigMao> it might have locked a .Xsomething file ..
[20:31] <Serraphyn> Bigmao, check yout start up scripts to make sure naut is running
[20:31] <Session416> I'm getting an error when I enter "sudo pulseaudio -k && pulseaudio --start"
[20:31] <BigMao> Serraphyn, for sure. You mean in my /etc/rc.d directories?
[20:31] <Serraphyn> Session416, paste the error to pastie.org
[20:31] <Serraphyn> BigMao, no in your xorg start up files
[20:31] <RPG_Master> Help! I gots a kernel panic! :O
[20:31] <Serraphyn> RPG_Master, don't panic... oh wait to late :)
[20:32] <RPG_Master> "1.0452121 kernel panic -not syncing: VPS: Unable to mount root fs on unkown-block (0,0)"
[20:32] <RPG_Master> Serraphyn, :P
[20:32] <Serraphyn> RPG_Master, you modifed your grub or did an automated kernel upgrade?
[20:32] <RPG_Master> Serraphyn, upgrade
[20:32] <BigMao> Serraphyn, so in /etc/X11/Xsession.d?
[20:32] <Serraphyn> BigMao, yes and your personal ~/.Xsesssion
[20:32] <RPG_Master> Serraphyn, Updated the 10.04 beta
[20:33] <Serraphyn> RPG_Master, the powers that be say ask in #ubuntu+1
[20:33] <mattish> first time i did a manual compile of 2.6 in kernel panic'd compiling panic.o, twas an ironic kernel panic
[20:33] <Serraphyn> No beta here, it confuses the new people :)
[20:33] <PatrickGleason> beta? RUNNNNN
[20:33] <Session416> Serraphyn, http://pastie.org/897625
[20:33] <t3chkommie_> hmmmm beta :)
[20:33] <RPG_Master> Serraphyn, Usually yeah, but this sounded like a general enough problem that it could be helped here :)
[20:34] <BigMao> Serraphyn, nautilus isn't in any of the files in Xsession.d, and I don't have a .Xsession file.  However, it had been working up until today, so unless the Nautilus call was deleted somehow, I don't see how this can be the cause
[20:34] <PatrickGleason> you beta go somewhere else to talk about that sonny jim
[20:34] <oscar_> someone could help me, how  can i  agree a ISR?
[20:34] <Serraphyn> RPG_Master, tbh sounds like your update script didn't copy kernel or modify grub right, time to do things by hand
[20:35] <Serraphyn> BigMao, check in /var/log see if anything is wonky in the log files
[20:35] <RPG_Master> Serraphyn, Could reinstalling grub fix this?
[20:35] <BigMao> Serraphyn, nautilus segfaulted about three minute ago
[20:35] <Serraphyn> Session416, you need to do "sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart" sans the quotes
[20:35] <Serraphyn> RPG_Master, thats a good start
[20:35] <Serraphyn> BigMao, during update?
[20:36] <BigMao> Serraphyn, not sure.  Let me reboot the computer and see if everything works
[20:36] <Serraphyn> k
[20:36] <minimec> RPG_Master: I would rather reinstall the last kernel (or add another...)
[20:36] <minimec> RPG_Master: That would reconfigure your grub conf automatically...
[20:37] <RPG_Master> I was pretty early in setting it all up... you think I could just reinstall and then th eupdate wouldn't screw up this time?
[20:37] <Serraphyn> RPG_Master, minimec is right, try that first since it pretty much covers everything
[20:37] <Serraphyn> RPG_Master, I tend to reinstall alot so thats usualyl how I fix kernel issues.
[20:38] <acholonu> can anyone help with install problem?
[20:38] <RPG_Master> Serraphyn, How would I go about fixing this issue through a live CD? Like, say, Parted Magic?
[20:38] <BigMao> Serraphyn, I think everything works now.  The desktop came up normally when I rebooted
[20:38] <Serraphyn> !ask | acholonu
[20:38] <BigMao> Thanks again. :)
[20:39] <Serraphyn> BigMao, *phew* thats good to hear mate, btw thank beernarrd_ to he helped.
[20:39] <BigMao> beernarrd_, thank you too!
[20:39] <acholonu> why is installing ubuntu 64 by cd giving me errors
[20:39] <hcl2> acholonu: partition errors?
[20:39] <guntbert> acholonu: did you md5sum check the iso?
[20:39] <Serraphyn> acholonu, CD scratched? Bad Download? Bad Burn? HDD errors...
[20:40] <acholonu> i don't think so
[20:40] <guntbert> !md5sum | acholonu
[20:40] <Serraphyn> RPG_Master, I'd say if you could just reinstall, but if your good with chroot and such, live cd could git r dun
[20:40] <ihernandez> deegee, just curious... do you remember if some link or resource was specially useful on the ldap setup?
[20:40]  * RPG_Master is a lazy 16 year old
[20:41] <rawDawg> here's a total newb question: where do i configure my network interfaces? is system > preferences > network connections the place to go? i cant seem to ping my gw
[20:41] <RPG_Master> Reinstall it is! :D
[20:41] <Serraphyn> RPG_Master, reinstall it is :)
[20:41] <Serraphyn> lol
[20:41] <Serraphyn> rawDawg, gw as in your router?
[20:41] <rawDawg> yes
[20:41] <beernarrd_> you're welcome, glad to have been of some use
[20:41] <Serraphyn> Can you http://router.ip.address.here/ ?
[20:42] <rexha> URGENT: I need to change Eclipses JDK from OpenJDK to Suns JDK
[20:42] <Serraphyn> rexha: #eclipse
[20:42] <acholonu> show this happen on 64 bit version?
[20:42] <guntbert> Serraphyn: how could he, when he cannot even ping it?
[20:42] <Serraphyn> acholonu, I'm using 64 bit with no problems
[20:42] <rexha> Serraphyn: How ?
[20:42] <Serraphyn> guntbert, some gw dont' allow ICMP responses
[20:42] <rawDawg> Serraphyn there is no web service on my router
[20:42] <mattish> is there a way to set a ubuntu usb stick not to boot into x ?
[20:43] <Serraphyn> rawDawg, o.O home built router I take it?
[20:43] <guntbert> Serraphyn: GUI or CLI?
[20:43] <acholonu> I also had trouble installing ubuntu on usb stick as well
[20:43] <guntbert> Serraphyn: sorry
[20:43] <eremite> mattish: I would assume there is.  Keep searching, the answer is out there
[20:43] <rawDawg> my router is a cisco firewall
[20:43] <guntbert> rawDawg:  GUI or CLI?
[20:43] <rawDawg> cli
[20:43] <Serraphyn> rexha: I'm saying ask that question in #eclipse support channel
[20:44] <rawDawg> well its got ASDM for a gui
[20:44] <rawDawg> but the problem i am having is client based i think
[20:44] <newbie> omikron4: sorry for the delay, Can somebody please check if the following sentence is good english. The trial already blew.
[20:44] <Serraphyn> rawDawg, can you ping other PCs on the network?
[20:44] <guntbert> rawDawg: no , you said system/preferences..  so you are in GUI
[20:44] <mattish> bbl thanks for help guys/girls
[20:44] <hakzsam> *
[20:44] <danopia> all of a sudden palimpset says "smart is not available" but it worked before i rebooted (uptime was 40 days)
[20:44] <rawDawg> guntbert i though he was talking about my router...
[20:45] <rawDawg> i am running desktop ubuntu 9.10
[20:45] <rawDawg> so yes there is a gui
[20:45] <Serraphyn> rawDawg, can you ping other PCs on your network?
[20:45] <rexha> Serraphyn: In eclipse irc they all are away and I need it for college
[20:45] <rawDawg> no
[20:46] <rawDawg> well there is only one more pc on the network
[20:46] <whisky> Wifi on my Kubuntu install is EXTREMELY slow :(
[20:46] <Prez00> hello
[20:46] <rawDawg> this box is running on vmware server 2.x
[20:46] <hakzsam> hi all
[20:46] <PatrickGleason> kubuntu !
[20:46] <PatrickGleason> shrug
[20:46] <whisky> Patrick: No one's active :/ And isn't it just Ubuntu with KDE?
[20:47] <guntbert> rawDawg: ah - how did you configure the vmware network?
[20:47] <rawDawg> i am using bridging for the vm guest network adpater
[20:47] <PatrickGleason> whisky: yeah lol ive been trying that with multitudes of things.
[20:47] <PatrickGleason> ! racing, ! lunch etc
[20:47] <Serraphyn> rawDawg, while I've used VMare, I don't like it.
[20:48] <jub369> help how do i turn a rpm file into a deb file
[20:48] <olvap> ~tell olvap pastie
[20:48] <olvap> ?
[20:48] <rawDawg> and then i thought i assigned a static ip in system > preferences > network connections
[20:48] <rawDawg> auto Eth0
[20:48] <PatrickGleason> whisky: feel free to ignore my childish games
[20:48] <Serraphyn> jub
[20:48] <guntbert> rawDawg: then dhcp *should* work - open a CLI and type ip ad    -- does anything with a valid IP address show?
[20:48] <Serraphyn> olvap, pastie.org
[20:48] <jub369> i tried alien it no work
[20:48] <whisky> PatrickGleason: Still love you man :)
[20:49] <PatrickGleason> whisky: so your wifi is slow huh?
[20:49] <Serraphyn> rexha: google search just brought up about 1000+ hits on how to change eclipse mate.
[20:49] <PatrickGleason> whisky: is it a fresh install? or did it just happen out of the blue?
[20:50] <jub369> E: Invalid operation alien when i type apt-get alien how do i stop this
[20:50] <Serraphyn> !apt | jub369
[20:50] <boss_mc>  jub369 apt-get install alien
[20:50] <guntbert> !alien | jub369
[20:51] <jub369> TY boss_mc
[20:51] <whisky> PatrickGleason: fresh install
[20:51] <Serraphyn> whisky, what type of wifi b/g/n?
[20:51] <guntbert> rawDawg: ?
[20:52] <whisky> Serraphyn: Intel 3945 ABG
[20:52] <fbdystang> Hi all, I am connected to my work computer using ubuntu's vpn connection. The connection is made but what vpn client to i use to pull up work windows computer?
[20:52] <Serraphyn> whisky, is it slower at same site or different sites?
[20:53] <rawDawg> guntbert i restarted the vm guest and now i can ping the gateway
[20:53] <whisky> Serraphyn: Anywhere and everywhere. Even downloads.
[20:53] <whisky> this is a 2mbit line and I get 8-10 kb/s :(
[20:53] <Serraphyn> whisky, I mean are you staying on one wifi point or moving around to different access points
[20:53] <guntbert> rawDawg: great - problem solved?
[20:53] <whisky> Serraphyn: The same. Works like a charm on my other laptop running vista
[20:54] <rawDawg> for now, i gotta figure out why when i reboot the vm host the vm client is not getting an address
[20:54] <Serraphyn> whisky, I'd say its probably the wifi driver
[20:54] <newbie> Can somebody please tell me if the following sentence is good english. => The trial already blew.
[20:54] <Serraphyn> or the setup is allowing it to drop to A
[20:54] <whisky> Serraphyn: How do I fix this? :( I'm a n00b
[20:55] <Serraphyn> whisky, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[20:55] <Serraphyn> newbie, we are not your English profs, and no its not
[20:56] <whisky> Serraphyn: I went there. The steps it tells me to do, I guess they've already been upgraded on Kubuntu 9.1 :/
[20:56] <PatrickGleason> whisky: are prop. drivers activde?
[20:56] <minimec> whisky: Did you ever use a linux install in combination with your router?
[20:57]  * Serraphyn stretches and gets herself another cup of coffee
[20:57] <whisky> PatrickGleason: I don't know what you mean :/
[20:57] <guntbert> rawDawg: perhaps a timing problem -- guest is started too soon?
[20:58] <PatrickGleason> whisky: are there proprietary drivers for your wireless hardware, and if so, are they enabled?
[20:58] <boymeetsworld> Serraphyn, No more coffee! :)
[20:58] <rawDawg> could be
[20:58] <whisky> minimec: It has something to do with the intel card in my notebook Google is full of such complaints but this is my first time ever on a Linux system I really don't know mch
[20:58] <Serraphyn> rawDawg, if that happens int he client just open terminal and type 'sudo /etc/init.d/network restart'
[20:58] <whisky> PatrickGleason: I don't know. I just logged into Kubuntu and it worked. But yes, Intel has drivers.
[20:58] <rblst> i have my /dev/sda1 physically at the end of my disk, which is a fat32 partition; i have /dev/sda2 at the beginning of the disk which is the root partition of ubuntu; where do i install grub?
[20:58] <rawDawg> ok
[20:58] <Serraphyn> boymeetsworld, don't take my coffee away, it keeps me sane
[20:59] <fbdystang> Hi all, I am connected to my work computer using ubuntu's vpn connection. The connection is made but what vpn client do i use to see my windows xp desktop? Any help would be greatly appreciated :)
[20:59] <whomee> will my 10.04 beta install be upgradeable to the offical full release or do i have to do a clean install?
[20:59] <Serraphyn> rblst, which is the A (active partition) and if you only have one drive /dev/sda
[20:59] <iceroot> whomee: #ubuntu+1
[21:00] <iceroot> whomee: and yes, upgrade is working to get the final
[21:00] <minimec> whisky: oh... OK. Sometimes your symptoms point to a misconfiguration in a network of MTU and firewall settings.
[21:00] <firmW_> how do I install last version of jdk on my computer?
[21:00] <Serraphyn> fbdystang, not done vpn in a while but I think you still need an appilcaiton running for remote-desktop viewing
[21:00] <whomee> iceroot: ah sorry for the fail-posting in wrong channel, but thx :)
[21:00] <rblst> Serraphyn, active meaning boot? yes i have only one disk
[21:00] <Serraphyn> firmW_, sudo apt-get install jdk
[21:01] <Serraphyn> rblst, then 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda' is all you should have to do
[21:01] <fbdystang> Serraphyn, exactly, which application if my windows is set for pptp?
[21:01] <Serraphyn> fbdystang, do you have a remote-desktop server runningon the work PC?
[21:01] <rblst> Serraphyn, can i do that in a live cd session?
[21:02] <Serraphyn> rblst, did the installer do it for you?
[21:02] <Kangarooo> can i install some lighter x window like flux box and imidiatly see how it looks? and change to then to xfce to see how that looks and then get back to default?
[21:02] <Serraphyn> fbdystang, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52727 <--- might help you out
[21:03]  * Serraphyn is off to make a fire, bbiab
[21:03] <fbdystang> Serraphyn, I am unfamiliar with the terminology, but I think so. I am dual booting with xp at home and in xp i am able to vpn perfectly, when in ubuntu I can only make the connection (I don't understand the client). Thanks
[21:04] <rblst> Serraphyn, i left it at default: hd(0,0), but it does not work
[21:04] <newbie> Can somebody please tell me if the following sentence is good english. => The trial already blew.
[21:04] <fbdystang> newbie, that doesn't make sense
[21:04] <rblst> Serraphyn, so, i guess i should go with what you've just suggested
[21:05] <guntbert> newbie: you have been told that it is not, and its off topic here
[21:05] <fbdystang> MustangMatt, What year of mustang?
[21:05] <firmW_> Serraphyn, not :  sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts ?
[21:07] <olvap> http://pastie.org/pastes/897674/edit
[21:07] <olvap> sorry
[21:08] <olvap> not this channel
[21:08] <jayer89> how do i turn a sceen saver off
[21:08] <Mac_Attack> how do u make mdadm start automatically every time u boot ubuntu 10.04
[21:08] <jayer89> how do i change the power options
[21:09] <gorehound> hello
[21:11] <jsgigax> can anyone here point me in the right direction to install wireless on Ubuntu Server 8.04.4 (lspci gives me this information: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01))
[21:12] <gorehound> I am wondering if someone would help me with ubuntu server 9.10 mailserver setup
[21:12] <minimec> jayer89: >system>preferences
[21:12] <jsgigax> I only have access to command line and pretty sure I need to activate the driver before it will work and don't know how to do this in command line.
[21:12] <discozohan> Hello. Does ubuntu supports raid 1+0 ?
[21:12] <discozohan> or just 1,0,5 and 6 ?
[21:13] <Tobarja> can i pull a list of all the packages that have been installed on my box?
[21:14] <minimec> !clone | Tobarja
[21:14] <eremite> apt-cache >> file.txt  might work for ya.
[21:14] <eremite> apt-cache
[21:14] <whisky> why on earth do my windows lose focus and get minimized? When I open a window and when I start typing or click around it gets minimized :/
[21:15] <eremite> apt-cache search . >> file.txt
[21:15] <eremite> apt-cache search .
[21:15] <rblst> Serraphyn, sudo grub-install /dev/sda returns error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub
[21:15] <Tobarja> yeah... i just got a handy dandy help dump :D
[21:15] <eremite> damn, it isnt that either.  What the hell, why doesnt apt-cache work for me?  What am I doing wrong?
[21:16] <Tobarja> thanks
[21:16] <scx> hello
[21:16] <rblst> hello scx
[21:18] <fredim> could someone help me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/407235/
[21:18] <Mac_Attack> Is there a way to have mdadm automatically start every time you boot ubuntu?
[21:18] <scx> I heard that a new KDE has application for searching files similar to GNOME app
[21:18] <scx> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/gnome-search-tool.jpg
[21:18] <scx> is it true?
[21:19] <scx> it is possible to add conditions for search like in GNOME?
[21:20] <fbdystang> Serraphyn, I looked over the page but nothing it says works, plus it is from 2005, i have karmic
[21:21] <guntbert> !here | fredim
[21:21] <gyyrog> hello
[21:21] <fredim> hi guntbert
[21:22] <fbdystang> does guntbert know vpn?
[21:22] <guntbert> fredim: I don't know yet what you need :-)
[21:22] <gyyrog> So I am running ubuntu on one of the new UL dual cores
[21:22] <gyyrog> I get half the battery life that I would under windows
[21:23] <guntbert> fbdystang: if you ask me - I'd say not really :)
[21:23] <gyyrog> How can I fix this?
[21:23] <fbdystang> gyyrog, use windows j/k
[21:23] <yoda__> hi
[21:24] <guntbert> fbdystang: when helping stay helpful please
[21:24] <gyyrog> I think it is because ubuntu does not have the processor frequency limiting software
[21:24] <yoda__> I have read a lot
[21:24] <gyyrog> Is that out there?
[21:24] <mypcwontstart> my computer keeps freezing at "*sda1_crypt (running)   [ OK ]" in recovery mode. could anyone please tell me what is going wrong?
[21:24] <yoda__> so if I have understood well I should edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom file
[21:24] <yoda__> could this be right?
[21:25] <yoda__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/407244/
[21:25] <yoda__> how can I see partitions from terminal ?
[21:25] <yoda__> how?
[21:25] <guntbert> yoda__: sudo fdisk -l
[21:25] <yoda__> ok thanks
[21:26] <yoda__> so
[21:26] <yoda__> I have sda1 with ubuntu sda2 with extended sd3 with Knoppix and sd5 with swap
[21:26] <yoda__> so Knoppix is called hd0,3 ?
[21:27] <omikron4> hellou, what's all going on?
[21:27] <mypcwontstart> guntbert, can you help me/
[21:27] <guntbert> mypcwontstart: I don't know before I have seen your question
[21:28] <andrewand> is there a way to log ssh connection attempts on Desktop Ubuntu?
[21:28] <mypcwontstart> my computer keeps freezing at "*sda1_crypt (running)   [ OK ]" in recovery mode. could anyone please tell me what is going wrong?
[21:28] <yoda__> so is it right this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/407245/
[21:28] <meoo> q
[21:28] <andrewand> andrewand: i've tried to RTFM, promise :-)
[21:28] <yoda__> to add at /etc/grub.d/40_custom file
[21:28] <meoo> oi?
[21:29] <mypcwontstart> guntbert, there is my question
[21:29] <Crepy> Newbie question: Where i should but my script, if i want to run it when ever i want
[21:29] <IceDane> I just set up ubuntu server and I wish to use it with mpd(music player daemon), and thus need to isntall the drivers for its sound card. I've installed alsa, and even loaded the correct driver(snd-via-82xx) and I still get an error when trying to use alsamixer or play sound or whatever. Do I have to "enable the soundcard" somewhere?
[21:29] <guntbert> mypcwontstart: sorry - no idea
[21:29] <Crepy> Like in windows i'm using win32 folder
[21:30] <mhall119> Crepy: do you want anyone to be able to run it?
[21:30] <gottto> Crepy: make a folder named   bin   in your home dir
[21:30] <Crepy> mmm, basically yes. (Im only user) but it would be nice to hear another way also
[21:31] <Crepy> ah
[21:31] <mhall119> Crepy /usr/bin/ or /usr/local/bin/ are system-wide
[21:31] <mhall119> or, like gottto said, make /home/Crepy/bin/ and put it there
[21:31] <Crepy> ok thanks
[21:31] <mhall119> no problem
[21:31] <yoda__> so can anyone help me?
[21:31] <Crepy> I would have used google for this, but kinda hard to write search for that ;D
[21:32] <mhall119> yoda__: only if we know your problem
[21:32] <gottto> /home/you/bin   makes it easier to edit
[21:32] <yoda__> ok
[21:32] <guntbert> Crepy: its normally not safe to put a "script" into a system folder - so keep it in your home dir
[21:32] <mhall119> /home/you/bin also makes it easier to backup
[21:32] <yoda__> I have ubuntu and knoppix together
[21:32] <Crepy> this is starting and stopping few daemons
[21:32] <yoda__> and I have to set Grub2 to add Knoppix menu
[21:32] <yoda__> so
[21:32] <Crepy> Will it work from my own folder?
[21:32] <yoda__> I have read a lot
[21:32] <Crepy> need root rights
[21:32] <mhall119> Crepy: run "echo $PATH" from the terminal, it'll work from any of the folders listed there
[21:33] <yoda__> and it seems that I should edit a file /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[21:33] <mhall119> if it needs root access, run it with sudo
[21:33] <yoda__> but how ..?
[21:33] <yoda__> I have read something
[21:33] <Crepy> Good, thanks
[21:33] <yoda__> so a base should be so http://paste.ubuntu.com/407245/
[21:33] <yoda__> but I have to set the last tow lines
[21:33] <m0ar> Does OneSwarm really not have a binary?
[21:34] <yoda__> for set vmlinux and initrd.img
[21:34] <guntbert> Crepy: don't run scripts with root permissions - if possible - that can really be dangerous (one error in your script might destroy your system)
[21:34] <yoda__> what is right here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/407249/
[21:35] <Guest50220> are here someone from Poland??
[21:35] <jrib> !pl | Guest50220
[21:35] <Crepy> guntbert, in this case its not possible i guess
[21:35] <yoda__> what does mean " vmlinuz-v.v.vv-vvv root=/dev/sdb1 ro splash" ??
[21:35] <Guest50220> dzieki
[21:35] <aetaric> hey guys
[21:36] <yoda__> what does mean this "-v.v.vv-vvv" ?
[21:36] <guntbert> Crepy: be *very* careful to test your script thoroughly before invoking it as root
[21:37] <zzzZoltan> hi guys, I'm having problems with raid5 reshaping with mdadm. dmesg is reporting info warnings saying it's blocked for more than 120secs and the reshape is stuck on 99.9% any ideas?
[21:37] <mypcwontstart> could someone who is experienced in recovering systems PLEASE, PLEASE help me get my computer running?
[21:37] <GhostFreeman> How can I set my default shell to zsh?
[21:37] <yoda__> none can help me ? :'(
[21:37] <yoda__> :'(
[21:37] <Myrtti> GhostFreeman: chsh
[21:37] <Myrtti> yoda__: where did you get that text from?
[21:37] <ribatejoluso> HI,
[21:38] <yoda__> from two different tutorial
[21:38] <aetaric> http://pastebin.com/gqSPrhAu any clue why this keeps happening?
[21:38] <yoda__> wait
[21:38] <ribatejoluso> how do I fake ubuntu id to ms?
[21:38] <mypcwontstart> I can't even get a live CD to work
[21:38] <tobylane> oh i need a new external drive, can anyone recommend a 500gb+ firewire drive please?
[21:38] <yoda__> an italian tutorial http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2_%28Italiano%29
[21:38] <Myrtti> yoda__: url?
[21:38] <ribatejoluso> blackboard does not let me connect
[21:38] <yoda__> but it is in italian
[21:38] <yoda__> :\
[21:38] <ribatejoluso> says I am usin mac ;
[21:38] <yoda__> there is any italian guy here ?
[21:38] <bigfoot-> Hi!  Is there a reason that there's no sun-java6-jdk (yet?) in Lucid?
[21:38] <GhostFreeman> Myrtti: After setting this to /bin/zsh, do I restart?
[21:38] <Myrtti> yoda__: all the v's are for you to replace with the correct info
[21:38] <ribatejoluso> nei; que cosa fatti?
[21:39] <Trek> !lucid | bigfoot-
[21:39] <marcuy> anyone can help me to install a pci analog tv tuner card?
[21:39] <Myrtti> !it | yoda__, ribatejoluso
[21:39] <bigfoot-> Trek: thx.
[21:39] <PatrickGleason> ribatejoluso: BB is browser based correct? It is probably checking your user agent
[21:39] <IceDane> I just set up ubuntu server and I wish to use it with mpd(music player daemon), and thus need to isntall the drivers for its sound card. I've installed alsa, and even loaded the correct driver(snd-via-82xx) and I still get an error when trying to use alsamixer or play sound or whatever. Do I have to "enable the soundcard" somewhere?
[21:39] <yoda__> Myrtti but I don't know how to set inforation about vmlinux and initrd.img
[21:39] <yoda__> information*
[21:39] <Trek> IceDane, probably in BIOS
[21:40] <ribatejoluso> PatrickGleason: yes, I am using firefox
[21:40] <V3RR3Z> How do I update my java?
[21:40] <IceDane> Trek: It's already enabled - I used to use it as a desktop
[21:40] <PatrickGleason> ribatejoluso: and BB is not compatible with FF?
[21:40] <eremite> !it | yoda__
[21:40] <IceDane> it's shown by lspci as well
[21:40] <gorehound> email server help. http://paste.ubuntu.com/407251/
[21:40] <yoda__> ok thanks ubottu
[21:40] <ribatejoluso> PatrickGleason: at my house no problem with wife windows
[21:40] <yoda__> later
[21:40] <gottto> aetaric: apart from the time what's the issue?
[21:41] <V3RR3Z> Current version of Java is only 15.. newest is 16.
[21:41] <PatrickGleason> ribatejoluso: but I believe since Blackboard is browser based, it shouldnt care what OS you are using, only what browser. and as long as Firefox is compatible, I dont think there should be any issue
[21:41] <V3RR3Z> yet.. apt-get installs 15
[21:41] <gorehound> oops left out that is the postfix main.cf
[21:41] <PatrickGleason> ribatejoluso: or perhaps I am misunderstanding?
[21:42] <ribatejoluso> PatrickGleason: no, your logic makes sense to me... need to maybe fake firefox ..it says in the site IE is required
[21:43] <ribatejoluso> PatrickGleason: but then again, it's akward since is a java application that does not work....
[21:43] <ribatejoluso> OHHH>>>>
[21:43] <ribatejoluso> PatrickGleason:Sorry all
[21:43] <prodigel> Hi. I'm searching for something similar to phpmyadmin - phpmyadmin it's perfect for my needs, but I get this 'upgrade to 5.0.15 or later' error that I can't bypass. Any suggestions?
[21:43] <ribatejoluso> Blackboard works..the chat application inside does not work
[21:43] <ribatejoluso> sorry
[21:43] <tharkun> GhostFreeman: edit the component shell on the /etc/passwd file then logout and login. echo $SHELL shall give you the shell you are using
[21:43] <ribatejoluso> PatrickGleason: but then again, is java
[21:44] <GhostFreeman> thanks tharkun
[21:44] <tharkun> np
[21:44] <abhilash_c> hi all
[21:44] <ribatejoluso> it works on my wife's windows..
[21:45] <wasitchu> how can I log into efnet from here?
[21:45] <Neo--> anyone knows how is called that component on the left of nautilus in which you can select history, information, places, etc.
[21:45] <tharkun> wasitchu: where is here?
[21:45] <markl_> is anyone here familiar with usint rEFIT to load Ubuntu 9.10 on a Macbook Pro?  I loaded it but just got the GRUB prompt
[21:46] <yoda__> at #ubuntu-it they suck none have helped me
[21:46] <yoda__> :(
[21:46] <Prez00> anyone able to view magazines using zinio reader under WINE in Karmic?
[21:46] <alfplayer> prodigel: are you running an old version of MySQL?
[21:47] <wasitchu> I am in ubuntu, on freenode servers I suspect, using an irc client
[21:47] <prodigel> alfplayer, probably
[21:47] <arabica> who isn't?
[21:47] <gottto> wasitchu: which irc client would help
[21:47] <alfplayer> prodigel: you probably need an old version of mysql too
[21:48] <wasitchu> there appears to be no means of setting the server I wish though
[21:48] <prodigel> alfplayer, I've tried mysql-admin, but it has not query/structure functions
[21:48] <NCS_One> hi
[21:48] <prodigel> now I'm trying kmysqladmin. hope I'll get lucky
[21:48] <wasitchu> I know there is a command sequence to join a server, I just do not remember it
[21:48] <arabica> wasitchu: chinese hijack all your packets?
[21:49] <wasitchu> looks that way
[21:49] <guntbert> !ot | arabica
[21:49] <alfplayer> are you on karmic? a hardy or intrepid version may work
[21:49] <gottto> wasitchu: /server irc.efnet.org might work
[21:49] <wasitchu> I am on Gosalia
[21:49] <guntbert> wasitchu: it should be /server <whateveryouwant>
[21:49] <wasitchu> ty
[21:49] <tobylane> oh i need a new external drive, can anyone recommend a 500gb+ firewire drive please?
[21:49] <alfplayer> prodigel: can't you upgrade mysql? current stable is 5.1.45
[21:49] <NCS_One> when I double click a, for example, .cpp file how can I make it check if vim is already open and if so open the file on it ?
[21:50] <prodigel> alfplayer, it's not my server to do that. I'm only connecting to it
[21:50] <guntbert> !ot > tobylane
[21:50] <tobylane> k
[21:51] <tobylane> missed it somehow
[21:51] <tobylane> !ot
[21:51] <samth> i have a problem with dual monitors and the ATI drivers
[21:51] <samth> on the smaller monitor, the mouse can go off the top and bottom of the screen
[21:52] <wasitchu> i am going to try a different client
[21:52] <wasitchu> ty all
[21:53] <jaszaitamas> Sziasztok
[21:53] <alanna> hi all. i'm on kubuntu and my /etc/apt/sources.list file has repos that all 404. camn someone send me their /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:53] <ribatejoluso> PatrickGleason:tx..changed in about:config
[21:53] <guntbert> !hu | jaszaitamas
[21:54] <jrib> alanna: what ubuntu version?
[21:55] <alanna> jrib: kubuntu feisty
[21:55] <PatrickGleason> ribatejoluso: so you got it working?
[21:55] <amelia_> hello
[21:55] <jrib> !feisty | alanna
[21:55] <alfplayer> prodigel: the 5.0.45 requirement started with phpmyadmin 3, you can try installing latest phpmyadmin 2 from source
[21:55] <alanna> !upgrade
[21:55] <jrib> alanna: you should follow ubottu's upgrade instructions as feisty is no longer supported (thus why your repos are 404)
[21:56] <prodigel> alfplayer, I'm doing that now ;)
[21:56] <amelia_> Hello
[21:56] <alfplayer> prodigel: sorry, i mean't 5.0.15
[21:56] <alfplayer> prodigel: OK!
[21:56] <amelia_> Hey i like peanut butter
[21:57] <guntbert> !ot | amelia_
[21:57] <newbie> Can somebody please tell me if the following sentence is good english. => The trial already blew.
[21:57] <PatrickGleason> member:ribatejoluso so it works?
[21:58] <IceDane> I just set up ubuntu server and I wish to use it with mpd(music player daemon), and thus need to isntall the drivers for its sound card. I've installed alsa, and even loaded the correct driver(snd-via-82xx) and I still get an error when trying to use alsamixer or play sound or whatever. Do I have to "enable the soundcard" somewhere? aplay -l doesn't list any devices, but cat /proc/asound/cards does display the device I want
[21:58] <guntbert> newbie: stop that!!
[21:58] <newbie> Somebody please tell me if the following sentence is good english. => The trial already blew.
[21:58] <PatrickGleason> Does anyone know the answer to IceDane s question lol
[21:58] <PatrickGleason> newbie: no.
[21:58] <gorehound> email server help. http://paste.ubuntu.com/407251/ postfix main.cf
[21:59] <darkside__> i need help trying to get my ipod out of readonly mode so i can copy music using gtkpod
[21:59] <alesan> hi is there a way to not being asked the password for admin actions, other than using the root user?
[21:59] <jrib> newbie: this channel is for ubuntu support not help with english.  Try #english for that
[21:59] <guntbert> !ops | newbie doesn't listen, insists on stating the same ot question over and over again
[21:59] <zedkappa> alesan: you can add yourself to the sudoers file
[21:59] <alesan> zedkappa, do you have more info on this?
[22:00] <gottto> alesan: you can edit the /etc/sudoers file with visudo
[22:00] <alesan> why should I use visudo and not any text editor?
[22:00] <zedkappa> ya
[22:00] <zedkappa> i was wondering the same thing
[22:00] <znik> i am getting this error while running ./configure http://pastebin.com/1YG3NRuN am i missing any header file?
[22:00] <jrib> alesan: read « man sudoers » but this is not really a good idea.  You shouldn't have to enter the password that often that it becomes a burden.  If you are, then you are probably doing something wrong.  Why exactly do you need to enter a password so often?  What exactly are you doing?
[22:01] <unop> alesan, because if you make a mistake using "any text editor" you can lock yourself out -- visudo does some sanity checking before committing the file
[22:01] <jrib> znik: what are you compiling?
[22:01] <zzzZoltan> hi guys, I'm having problems with raid5 reshaping with mdadm. dmesg is reporting info warnings saying it's blocked for more than 120secs and the reshape is stuck on 99.9% any ideas?
[22:01] <puff> What'sthe best way to back up my ubuntu laptop?
[22:01] <zedkappa> jrib: actually just about everyone inserts it often :P
[22:01] <guntbert> alesan: because an error in that file might render your system unusable - and visudo makes a sanity check before comitting
[22:01] <znik> jrib: http://trac.osgeo.org/proj/
[22:01] <NCS_One> when I double click a, for example, .cpp file how can I make it check if vim is already open and if so open the file on it ?
[22:01] <jrib> zedkappa: I don't...
[22:01] <puff> I need to resize the partitions.
[22:01] <alesan> jrib, why do you want to interfere with my security policy :)
[22:01] <lina66> hi ^^
[22:01] <jrib> alesan: you asked for help...
[22:02] <alesan> jrib, it's a virtual machine that I use for testing a software I'm writing
[22:02] <zedkappa> jrib: i have to enter it about 8 times on startup
[22:02] <jrib> zedkappa: to do what?
[22:02] <PatrickGleason> puff: good question. I would like to know also
[22:02] <zedkappa> jrib: for the network, idk why
[22:02] <jrib> zedkappa: that's one time, no?
[22:02] <guntbert> !!worksforme | zedkappa
[22:02] <puff> alesan: If you like you can do "sudo EDITOR=emacs visudo", where emacs can be whatever editor you like.
[22:03] <jrib> !compile > znik
[22:03] <zedkappa> thanks guntbert but i believe gedit can edit it fine under sudo
[22:03] <puff> alesan: Also, if I recall correctly, the current version of sudo in ubuntu creates a catch-22 situation if you don't use visudo.
[22:03] <newbie> Hey guys I know this is offtopic but somebody please tell me if the following sentence is good english. => The trial already blew.
[22:03] <apprenticeIdiot> puff: Personally I have just backed /home up to an external drive and then done what needed to be done.
[22:03] <alesan> puff, nothing a reboot wont' fix :)
[22:03] <alesan> ok
[22:03] <alesan> anyway thanks!
[22:03] <puff> alesan: That is, you can't edit /etc/sudoers because it's not writable.  But sudo won't run if /etc/sudoers is writable.  So once you use sudo to make /etc/sudoers writable, then you can't use sudo again.
[22:03] <alesan> bye
[22:03] <guntbert> zedkappa: that depend entirely on your ability not to make a mistake - and please don't recommend that here
[22:03] <FloodBot1> alesan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:04] <PatrickGleason> newbie: kickban
[22:04] <guntbert> *depends
[22:04] <zedkappa> jrib: ya it just started happening, it asks for the keyring password about 6 times
[22:04] <zedkappa> and the network key also
[22:04] <puff> I have an external USB drive with about 80 GB free space, fomratted NTFS.  I have a laptop with a 60GB drive and ubuntu 8.10.
[22:04] <Eximius> Need help with programming c++, Berkeley's socks messed up
[22:04] <zedkappa> its an old distro, im just going to get 10
[22:05] <SomethingXP> how do I keep my computer from going idle?
[22:05] <n3r0> hallo i was wondering if you guys could recommend me to some kind of hardware support channel?
[22:05] <apprenticeIdiot> zedkappa: Is this a wireless connection by any chance?
[22:05] <jrib> Eximius: ##c++ for that
[22:05] <zedkappa> apprenticeIdiot: yes
[22:05] <jrib> n3r0: ##hardware
[22:05] <SomethingXP> it disconnected me from the internet and stopped my download and I am hopping mad
[22:05] <puff> My 60 GB laptop is formatted with a 5GB / partition, a 10 GB /home partition, and a 38 GB /bulkdata partition.
[22:05] <Eximius> ##c++ Ain't accepting random nicknames
[22:05] <puff> I need to back up my laptop so I can resize my / partition from 5GB to 10 GB.
[22:05] <Eximius> and i'm not going to register one
[22:05] <puff> How would you recommend I proceed?
[22:05] <PatrickGleason> puff:  could just use gparted
[22:05] <jrib> Eximius: then I guess you can't get support with c++.
[22:06] <khem_> why do transmission complain about 2 out of 5 torrents that they are corrupt?
[22:06] <apprenticeIdiot> zedkappa: Heh, does that for me to.  Does my head in.  Internal wirelss (B) will constantly ask for password, PMCIA wireless (G) is perfectly happy.  I always thought it was just me and a dodgy internal wireless network adapter.
[22:06] <puff> PatrickGleason: For which step?
[22:06] <mezquitale> anyone knows how to add a file to a floppy in virtualbox?
[22:06] <n3r0> cant join channel hardware without invitation, any ideas?
[22:07] <jrib> !register | n3r0
[22:07] <PatrickGleason> puff: you can boot to gparted livecd and just resize your partitions without destroying data
[22:07] <zedkappa> apprenticeIdiot: ya i just deny all 6 prompts and ubuntu is like "... ok you can have internet now lol"
[22:07] <jrib> Eximius: ##c++ doesn't seem to require registration though.  So you should be able to join.  If you need help with that, #freenode can help
[22:07] <puff> PatrickGleason: Sounds like a plan, now, since I'm not insane, I'd like to back up before doing so....
[22:07] <zedkappa> except for the key
[22:07] <PatrickGleason> puff: on the mac, i use CCC. i havent been ubuntu long enough, ive never had to do it lol
[22:08] <apprenticeIdiot> puff: Patrick is right, but backing up is still "A Good Idea"(tm).  Well it is if you are me!
[22:08] <PatrickGleason> and yes. for God sakes. back up your data
[22:08] <puff> apprenticeIdiot: Okay, so a) is ntfs going to be safe to put my data onto  and b) what program?
[22:08] <khem_> when they work just fine in MWindows for insrtance
[22:08] <puff> I could just use rsync, but I feel uncertain about ntfs...
[22:09] <apprenticeIdiot> zedkappa: I just find it weird that the two connections behave so differently.  I know there are some bugs about Network Manager and keyring access (which is why you can't join hidden networks easily)
[22:09] <newbie> jrib: Why did you kick me? Man stop over reacting. Besides other ppl are talking offtopic too. Time to keep some decency.
[22:09] <puff> That is, if the USB drive was ext3 like my laptop is, I'd feel safe just rsyncing, but sinc eit's NTFS, I worry.
[22:09] <zzzZoltan> hi guys, I'm having problems with raid5 reshaping with mdadm. dmesg is reporting info warnings saying it's blocked for more than 120secs and the reshape is stuck on 99.9% any ideas?
[22:09] <chat69621> any girls cam for monney
[22:09] <puff> newbie: Try #english
[22:10] <apprenticeIdiot> puff: Never had a problem, I back-up to NTFS as I have some Windows boxes.
[22:10] <puff> apprenticeIdiot: Okay, so rsync to the ntfs drive?
[22:11] <apprenticeIdiot> puff: rsync?  Err, no (not used it to be honest - I'm still new).  Drag 'n drop has been good enough for me so far.
[22:11] <khem_> when they work just fine in MWindows for insrtance?
[22:11] <khem_> why do transmission complain about 2 out of 5 torrents that they are corrupt? when they work fine in windows for instance?
[22:11] <puff> Hm, now since the ntfs drivef is mounted at /media/lacie, and I want to back up /, how to avoid trying to rsync /media/lacie to /media/lacie?
[22:11] <puff> Sigh.
[22:11] <apprenticeIdiot> puff: My data is fairly static, so it's not a huge issue.  I really need to get clued up about rsync etc
[22:12] <Mohero> puff: rsync has an --exclude option ;-)
[22:12] <puff> I've never gotten rsync --exclude to work right.
[22:12] <gorehound> anyone know of a good tutorial using dovecot postfix to set up email server?
[22:12] <puff> apprenticeIdiot: The basics are very, very easy.  BEyond that...
[22:12] <prodigel> alfplayer, thanks for your help. phpmyadmin 2.11 works
[22:13] <apprenticeIdiot> Does anyone know of a SIPE (MS OCS) compatible IM client that will run on Ubuntu?  I have "pidgin-sipe" but that doesn't seem to do voice.
[22:13] <puff> apprenticeIdiot:  Basically, rsync -avz /some/local/filepath/ user@hostname:/some/remote/filepath/
[22:13] <puff> apprenticeIdiot: As long as you amke sure both filepaths end with a trailing slash (/) you're good.
[22:13] <chelz> i like aPz
[22:13] <flawed> hello. I just tried to install the 10.04 beta.  while installing ubiquity crashed, and the crashreport tool wouldn't let me send the report because some packages were outdated.
[22:13] <Mohero> puff: point it to a file, then fill the file with locations with directories you don't want to backup
[22:13] <apprenticeIdiot> puff: Yeah, it's usually like that.  Really easy until I forget something like a trailing /!  Thanks for the info.
[22:13] <puff> apprenticeIdiot:  It will assume you want to make /some/remote/filepath/ contain exactly the same contents as /some/local/filepath/
[22:13] <puff> Mohero: Yeah, I tried that too.
[22:14] <chelz> flawed: lucid is in #ubuntu+1
[22:14] <flawed> thanks
[22:14] <puff> apprenticeIdiot: If you don't have a trailing / on both, then it gets tricky and you end up having somethjing rsync create something like /some/remote/filepath/some/remote/filepath
[22:14] <Mohero> puff: don't put the leading / on the dirs and the first dir is from where you backup.
[22:14] <Mohero> puff: hold on.
[22:15] <puff> Mohero: Yeah, I was explaining the simplest, safest case to apprenticeIdiot, using absolute file paths.
[22:15] <puff> Mohero: Okay.
[22:15] <apprenticeIdiot> puff: Thanks.  I need the small words. :o)
[22:15] <millertimek1a2m3> anyone in here do gtkmm?
[22:16] <tharkun> millertimek1a2m3: ask in #gtk+ at irc.gimp.org
[22:17] <seidos> how do you make a kernel the default in grub?
[22:17] <puff> apprenticeIdiot: And of course you can do it in the other direction, e.g. rsync -avz user@hostname:/some/remote/filepath/ /some/local/filepath/
[22:17] <totti> hi there
[22:17] <puff> apprenticeIdiot:  YOu can also rsync individual files.
[22:17] <Mohero> puff: see PM :)
[22:17] <gorehound> is there a postfix room?
[22:17] <puff> Mohero: Muchos gracias.
[22:17] <Mohero> puff: np
[22:17] <puff> gorehound: Yes, but I didnt' find them too helpful.
[22:17] <Mohero> gorehound: yes /postfix ;-)
[22:18] <Mohero> * #postfix
[22:18] <Mohero> but like puff they basically tell you you're doing it all wrong, but won't tell you what the "right" way is
[22:18] <apprenticeIdiot> puff: Good to know.  I have heard people use rysnc for podcast syncing etc, just not got around to looking into it yet..
[22:18]  * Mohero grumbles
[22:18] <zzzZoltan> is there a mdadm room too?
[22:18] <puff> apprenticeIdiot: Generally speaking, rsync will first display a list of files (the v is for verbose), then check on those files on the remote host, then do the copying.
[22:18] <PatrickGleason> puff: are you using terminal to back up things?
[22:18] <puff> apprenticeIdiot:  So it's pretty safe to run it twice.
[22:18] <gorehound> ok thanks any of you have knowledge of setting up mailserver in ubuntu server 9.1?
[22:19] <puff> PatrickGleason: About to, yes. Mohero showed me the right way to use rsync exclude.
[22:19] <PatrickGleason> puff: that is the scariest thing ive ever heard lol
[22:19] <puff> apprenticeIdiot: Rsync only copies the changes.  So if you change nothing and run rsync again, it'll check, then not copy anything.  If you change one file out of 3000 and run rsync again, it'll check all of the files, but only copy the changed file.
[22:19] <puff> PatrickGleason: What is?
[22:20] <puff> apprenticeIdiot: In fact, it will actually only copy the changed bit of file.
[22:20] <PatrickGleason> puff: backing up without a nice gui telling me everything is ok\
[22:20] <puff> apprenticeIdiot:  It does a block-by-block compare and only moves the changed data.
[22:20] <cormorano> hi
[22:20] <apprenticeIdiot> puff: Crikey.  I thought it was just file-by-file.
[22:20] <puff> PatrickGleason: Hee, yeah, I'd prefer a purpose-built tool, but I don't like GUI tools, they hide too much.
[22:21] <Mohero> graviton: a bit....
[22:21] <glaframb> join /ubuntu_qc
[22:21] <Mohero> graviton: wrong name
[22:21] <Mohero> gorehound: a bit...
[22:21] <glaframb> quit
[22:21] <puff> apprenticeIdiot: Well, rsync first became popular back in 1999 or so, when bandwidth was a lot tighter.
[22:21] <PatrickGleason> puff: im still not quite comfortable with the terminal- esp for backing up my life
[22:21] <glaframb> Quit
[22:21] <Mohero> gorehound: depends how much you want to know
[22:21] <Mohero> glaframb: try /quit
[22:22]  * Mohero notices he ignores quits / joins... :)
[22:22] <puff> PatrickGleason: I would prefer a tool that is designed and properly implemented to accomplish my goal, but whether it's terminal or GUI is irrelevant.  However, when things break wtih GUI tools, you have no idea what went wrong.  WIth terminal tools you usually have more to go on.
[22:22] <hcl2> why is my terminal listed under "accessories" in the menu, it should be under "necessities"
[22:23] <puff> PatrickGleason: Also, with gui tools you have to _hope_ the tool was deisgned and properly implemented with the right goal in mind.  Terminal tools are usually a b it more explicit.
[22:23] <PatrickGleason> puff: i like buttons
[22:23] <PatrickGleason> lol
[22:23] <deegen> Also, with terminal tools it's much easier to stick in cron and run automatically.
[22:23] <puff> I call this visible complexity vs. hidden complexity.
[22:24] <puff> Complexity just is.  Sometimes you can hide it successfully, but when you can't (which seems to be more often than people think :-) I'd rather have visible complexity when I'm trying to sort out the problem.
[22:25] <Bisu[Shield]> ok iw ant to update files within a range but if the update date of the file is newer on live then do not overwrite, how do I do that?
[22:25] <puff> The idea would be both - hidden complexity with the option to check under the hood - but people seem so rarely to do that. Probably it takes too much extra work.
[22:25] <YODA___> bye bye
[22:25] <apprenticeIdiot> seidos: I did this ages ago when I messed something up, editing /boot/grub/menu.lst was the way I think.  I am sure there are community docs about it
[22:25] <puff> Bisu[Shield]: I'm rpetty sure rsync has a keep-newer option or something.
[22:25] <_newbie_> Sorry for talking offtopic before but I did not see your warnings.
[22:25] <seidos> apprenticeIdiot, I'll look into that
[22:25] <pal0bre> can someone tell me how to set compiz as my default window manager ???
[22:25] <_newbie_> Were is the channel log to be found?
[22:26] <puff> Bisu[Shield]: That is,I'm pretty sure it has an option for keeping the newer file.... it's -u update to keep files that are newer ont he receiver.
[22:26] <eLeNa> NIC
[22:26] <chelz> seidos: use
[22:26] <soreau> pal0bre: Set anything other than none in sys>prefs>appearance>visual effects
[22:26] <chelz> seidos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StartUpManager
[22:26] <eLeNa> NIK/EBC99
[22:26] <NeedleInYourArms> http://www.mspointsgenerators.com/?i=553967
[22:26] <chelz> seidos: sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[22:26] <Mohero> Bisu[Shield]: rsync is the right option, type "man rsync" in a terminal, there's alot of options
[22:26] <eLeNa> NICK/EBC99
[22:26] <chelz> seidos: System > Administration > StartUp-Manager
[22:26] <apprenticeIdiot> seidos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS
[22:26] <eLeNa> how can i change mi nikk???
[22:27] <seidos> chelz, I don't have startup-manager
[22:27] <chelz> !nick | eLeNa
[22:27] <apprenticeIdiot> eLeNa: http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html
[22:27] <chelz> chelz: you have to install it
[22:27] <chelz> seidos: sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[22:27] <chelz> seidos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StartUpManager
[22:27] <chelz> seidos: after you install it go to System > Administration > StartUp-Manager
[22:27] <gorehound> email server help. http://paste.ubuntu.com/407251/ postfix main.cf
[22:27] <EBC99> Thank you very much!
[22:27] <chelz> !nickserv | EBC99
[22:27] <apprenticeIdiot> Cheers everyone.
[22:28] <chelz> !register | EBC99
[22:28] <_newbie_> channel log
[22:28] <_newbie_> ubottu: where is the channel log
[22:28] <EBC99> And...how can i go to ubuntu-es spanish channel=
[22:28] <mneptok> !logs
[22:28] <EBC99> ??
[22:28] <chelz> !es | EBC99
[22:29] <EBC99> #ubuntu-es
[22:29] <mneptok> EBC99: escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[22:29] <are16> ou ubuntu
[22:29] <are16> dele rug tyus
[22:29] <puff> Mohero: Trying to understand your example here...
[22:29] <chelz> !pl | are16
[22:30] <Mohero> puff: yup, I'm still hovering for a few mins
[22:30] <zzzZoltan> can anybody point me in the right direction for mdadm raid5 troubleshooting?
[22:31] <chelz> zzzZoltan: what issue are you experiencing?
[22:31] <and> ciao
[22:31] <seidos> chelz, thank you startupmanager did the trick
[22:31] <zedkappa> lol
[22:31] <chelz> seidos: np, tell your friends
[22:31] <zedkappa> very funny
[22:31] <zzzZoltan> well, I added a 1TB disc to a 3x1TB raid5 array, made it grow, and now the reshape is stuck on 99.9%
[22:31] <MobiusJedi> anyone know how to get JACK working?
[22:31] <zzzZoltan> and I have problems booting due to udevd complaining
[22:31] <mneptok> MobiusJedi: pay him?
[22:32]  * Mohero laughs
[22:32] <puff> Mohero: So I should change ${BACKUPDIR} and ${DATE} to the appropriate ltieral string, I presume.
[22:32] <zdnar> who is jack?
[22:32] <zedkappa> lol
[22:32] <MobiusJedi> rofl
[22:32] <seidos> MobiusJedi, I tried getting audacity to work on my system, never had any luck
[22:32] <zedkappa> who was the one who joined irc.skidsr.us
[22:32] <zedkappa> :3
[22:32] <MobiusJedi> seidos: that's discouraging
[22:33] <zedkappa> i see what u did ther
[22:33] <zzzZoltan> chelz: let me know if you want to see any log or dmesg outputs
[22:33] <seidos> MobiusJedi, I think it's a hardware issue.  I have a lot of problems with this configuration
[22:33] <ABC> im so bored....
[22:33] <n3r0> my computer wont start unless i restart it like 20 times, any ideas?
[22:33] <Moose|pyweek> ABC, enter pyweek. :P
[22:33] <seidos> ABC, learn a programming language
[22:33] <puff> Mohero: And if I want to backup / and /home to separate locations, and not backup /media/*, and not backup /bulkdata
[22:33] <Mohero> puff: yes, I actually don't have ${DATE} I actually backup to /backup/${DAY}/ and then do a cp -al to create hardlinks to a ${DATE}
[22:34] <ABC> oh...its so fun...xDDD ¬¬
[22:34] <seidos> n3r0, try a different kernel version
[22:34] <MobiusJedi> dear linux, give me a new sound card. love, mobius
[22:34] <Moose|pyweek> ABC, if you know python, enter pyweek. If you don't know python, enter pyweek and learn python. :P
[22:34] <Mohero> puff: just do multiple rsync lines, and use the excludes to not go into things like /home
[22:34] <puff> n3r0: One possibility is that it's hardware realted, andit needs to warm up enough for some bit of metal to expand and stay connected.
[22:34] <seidos> Moose|pyweek, what's pyweek?
[22:34] <puff> Mohero: Cool.
[22:35] <Moose|pyweek> seidos, a programming competition - 1 week to program a game, in python
[22:35] <Mohero> puff: instead of spending $100's on backup software for the company I work for, I wrote the entire backup system using rsync / sed / bash :)
[22:35] <seidos> Moose|pyweek, how do you enter?
[22:35] <n3r0> puff: that could be true, what do i need to fix it?
[22:35] <Mohero> backing up multiple systems to a single disk.
[22:35] <seidos> I'll enter my rock paper scissors game :D
[22:35] <Moose|pyweek> on the site ( http://www.pyweek.org/ ) if you enter now, you only have 4 days to program your game though :P
[22:36] <Moose|pyweek> and it has to match the theme.
[22:36] <Moose|pyweek> Wibbly-Wobbly.
[22:36] <seidos> oh
[22:36] <seidos> there's probably no hope of me having something to enter then
[22:36] <Moose|pyweek> How does rock-paper-scissors match wibbly-wobbly? :P
[22:36] <seidos> I'll check it out though
[22:36] <Moose|pyweek> yeah...
[22:36] <Moose|pyweek> you may want to enter the next one
[22:36] <chelz> zzzZoltan: i don't have experience with this but these might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID#Disk%20Array%20Operation and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootDegradedRaid
[22:36] <puff> I need to learn ypthon.
[22:36] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[22:36] <Moose|pyweek> or any other which hasn't started yet :P
[22:36] <Moose|pyweek> oops, sorry
[22:36] <deegen> faubackup Provides an interface to rsync and a bit of a config file, lets you keep multiple versions of backups and such.
[22:36] <Moose|pyweek> thought this was the off-topic one
[22:37] <Mohero> puff: nah, bash is good enough for most things I find :)
[22:37] <Moose|pyweek> OVER TO #ubuntu-offtopic !
[22:37] <Mohero> puff: started python... then got lazy
[22:37] <carlITOS> hi
[22:37] <mezquitale> Moose|pyweek, try asking people in #ubuntu-offtopic, also go to the programming channels, this channel is for ubuntu support
[22:37] <zzzZoltan> chelz: thanks i'll have a look at it right away
[22:38] <Mohero> puff: maybe I'll create a GTK front-end to my backup system, and package it up.... but it won't happen for a while, seems work is too busy
[22:39] <nu2linux> Hello everyone
[22:39] <seidos> hello nu2linux
[22:40] <CD> hi to al
[22:40] <nu2linux> Hello seidos How are you doing today?
[22:40] <chelz> !hi | nu2linux
[22:40] <chelz> zzzZoltan: was it a RAID5 before you grew it? and do you have any data on it you don't want to lose?
[22:40] <seidos> nu2linux, I'm doing okay.
[22:41] <MobiusJedi> is there a pastebin-like place for screen shots?
[22:41] <eremite> MobiusJedi: just upload yoru pic to imgshack or tinypic?
[22:41] <Typos_King> MobiusJedi:   imgur.com
[22:41] <ukdkbr> imgur.com ftw
[22:41] <zzzZoltan> chelz: yes, it was a raid5 with about 1.5TB used data. I added 1more TB to it and grew it
[22:41] <zzzZoltan> it's mainly my data storage pool, all other things are on independent lvm's
[22:41] <ukdkbr> Typos_King, must be a redditor
[22:41] <nu2linux> I already (sadden) found out that I can not change my visual effects due to the lack of my graphics card. So I am wondering if going to gnome-look.org is still worth checking out
[22:41] <puff> Mohero: Does this look right?  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/nXMMQuCn
[22:42] <zzzZoltan> and yes, I would like to keep the data on it :/
[22:42] <khaije|selen> Hi all, anyone aware of a way to use bluetooth gear that requires that random pin stuff with linux?
[22:42] <puff> Mohero: Whoops, waitasec, forgot to delete the original excludes filepath.
[22:42] <chelz> zzzZoltan: are you able to access the data on it currently? and how many times have you tried to reshape it?
[22:42] <Typos_King> redditor? :|
[22:42] <khaije|selen> I got a keyboard from bestbuy (rocketfish) and so far it only works under windows
[22:42] <ukdkbr> haha nvm
[22:42] <jherico> anyone want to help me figure out why my new lucid upgrade won't boot properly?
[22:43] <Mohero> puff: :)
[22:43] <chelz> nu2linux: you might be mistaking compiz-enabled 3d graphics effects for theming effects
[22:43] <zzzZoltan> chelz: I've the reshape is only once, but since it's stuck i think it tries to continue on each boot. perhaps I can re-assemble it?
[22:43] <chelz> nu2linux: your gfx card should have little to no bearing on what themes you can install
[22:43] <puff> Mohero:  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/UD9pQqF1
[22:43] <n3r0> where can i find myself a good c++ compiler for ubuntu?
[22:43] <nu2linux> sweet then
[22:43] <puff> n3r0: gcc
[22:43] <Mohero> puff: looking
[22:43] <seidos> puff, isn't gcc a c compiler?
[22:43] <chelz> nu2linux: karmic has issues with gdm themes though, just a heads up
[22:43] <Estefii> jnjlnjlnlnjklnlk,nmnmkknmnjmnjmmjjnjnkn
[22:44] <puff> seidos: gcc does more than c.
[22:44] <chelz> seidos: it compiles a lot of languages
[22:44] <jherico> g++ is the C++ compiler, but I think gcc does it as well
[22:44] <chelz> !es | Estefii
[22:44] <nu2linux> Can you please explain what gdm means?
[22:44] <nu2linux> thank you
[22:44] <chelz> zzzZoltan: well you could try booting to a livecd and trying to reshape it
[22:44] <NeedleInYourArms> http://www.mspointsgenerators.com/?i=720158
[22:44] <Estefii> what is?
[22:44] <seidos> oh
[22:44] <Mohero> puff: pm
[22:44] <jherico> if I boot into the grub menu and choose the recovery console it the output just stops after USB initialization
[22:44] <chelz> nu2linux: the login screen where you type in your username and password is where gdm themes would be. ubuntu karmic doesn't support theming that. at least not without a lot of work
[22:45] <zzzZoltan> chelz: i'll give that a try, because booting from the system seems to stall the mdadm tasks
[22:45] <chelz> zzzZoltan: you might have to chroot
[22:45] <puff> seidos: "The GNU Compiler Collection includes front ends for C, C++, Objective-C, Fortran, Java, and Ada, as well as libraries for these languages (libstdc++, libgcj,...)"  http://gcc.gnu.org/
[22:45] <Estefii> y la señorita mariangeles
[22:45] <jherico> if I 'ctrl-alt-delete' then it does 'stopping all md devices' and reboots as normal, but I never get anything like a prompt or shell up
[22:45] <nu2linux> oh I didn't even know that that was possible in the first plac
[22:45] <chelz> zzzZoltan: this would probably help: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8874
[22:46] <nu2linux> Yea Linux rocks
[22:46] <chelz> nu2linux: hopefully it will be again before too long
[22:46] <seidos> puff, it doesn't really make sense.  what is g++ then?
[22:46] <zzzZoltan> chelz: thanks, i'll boot up the ubuntu live cd and give try to complete the reshape from there
[22:46] <puff> seidos: g++ is the c++ compiler portion of the gcc project.
[22:46] <chelz> jherico: is your normal system able to boot?
[22:46] <nu2linux> I am glad I am free now
[22:46] <seidos> puff, ah I see
[22:47] <chelz> jherico: when you select a non recovery kernel in grub
[22:47] <Estefii> no entiendi nada de lo k dice en ubuntu
[22:47] <nu2linux> I am not held down my mac or microsoft
[22:47] <mezquitale> can virtualbox use a virtual machine created with microsoft's virtualization tool?
[22:47] <chelz> !ot | nu2linux
[22:47] <jherico> chelz: what do you mean my 'normal system'?  This is my one of my work desktop machines and I used the update-manager to move it from karmic to lucid
[22:47] <seidos> !es | Estefii
[22:47] <chelz> jherico: lucid support is in #ubuntu+1
[22:48] <chelz> Estefii: /join #ubuntu-es
[22:48] <jherico> k, thanks
[22:48] <nu2linux> I had an issue the other night I installed simplymepis
[22:48] <MobiusJedi> yay imgur! . . . so, why does my wine config window look like this? http://imgur.com/hwaEy
[22:48] <puff> seidos: http://www.coyotegulch.com/reviews/linux_compilers/index.html
[22:49] <Zenker> oin #blender
[22:49] <nu2linux> and then I booted a live cd of xbuntu and when I got finished with that I ended up getting grub rescue
[22:49] <myk_robinson> all my Gimp users:    hey. Using Gimp 2.6.8, got it on Ubuntu 10.04 beta and one running in Windows 7. THe windows 7 version, in the lower left corner I have a drop down to select zoom amount and unit of measurement. How can i get this in Linux?
[22:49] <Zenker> haa
[22:49] <ukdkbr> MobiusJedi, does that only happen on the wine config screen?
[22:49] <nu2linux> the grub loader was not working so I am wondering is it possible to dual install two or more distro's
[22:49] <chelz> MobiusJedi: here are some fixes to try: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=974111
[22:49] <MobiusJedi> ukdkbr: on one other program, Progress Quest
[22:50] <MobiusJedi> thanks chelz
[22:50] <seidos> puff, I'll read the article, thank you
[22:51] <oopsfire> !grub
[22:51] <chelz> nu2linux: dualbooting linuxes involves keeping a bootloader like grub or lilo updated manually. it requires an intermediate level of linux experience
[22:51] <oopsfire> Any one have any good lit on repairing bad sectors and/or partition tables?
[22:51] <nu2linux> Is there a website with instructions
[22:51] <moosekaka> hi everytime i reboot and start Evolution on hardy i keep getting asked for my password says keyring is locked
[22:52] <seidos> is fortran assembly?
[22:52] <oopsfire> I get an "error 17" on boot, and it wont boot in to my win or linux partitions
[22:53] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I have forgotten if I installed i386 or i686 where do I look to find out
[22:53] <Typos_King> U-b-u-n-t-u:   uname -a
[22:53] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ty
[22:54] <Typos_King> myk_robinson:  that'd be in the status bar, assuming is showing, maybe it isn't for you, check in View > status bar
[22:54] <chelz> oopsfire: what happened to cause that error?
[22:54] <U-b-u-n-t-u> second question should I installed the new firefox from firefox web page since its newer than the firefox for ubuntu version?
[22:54] <chillindave> can the gdm desktop be started remotely?  "Meaning it is at the login screen and I need the desktop environment to start on the remote machine"
[22:55] <oopsfire> chelz, A series of events I fear,,
[22:55] <chelz> oopsfire: did ubuntu work before?
[22:55] <puff> Mohero: Hm, if oyu're still here, it just occurred to me, I should probably reboot this lptop under a live CD and mount the partitions and run the rsyncs, so Id on't have processes messing with open files, etc, on the / parittion.
[22:55] <Typos_King> U-b-u-n-t-u:   sooo.... what's the Q?   is it newer than the one in the repositiory? I'd think so :)
[22:56] <Estefii> no encuentro nada en ubuntu
[22:56] <oopsfire> Scenario: I have a pc dual boot, win/ubuntu. My ubuntu froze, and I had to hard reset it. After that I got a million errors when I tried to boot ubuntu again, at this point windows would still boot.
[22:56] <oopsfire> ,
[22:56] <chelz> U-b-u-n-t-u: no. stay with ubuntu packages unless you specifically need something from a version outside of ubuntu and are willing to learn all that's involved in maintaining them
[22:56] <Typos_King> !es | Estefii
[22:56] <chillindave> Anyone?
[22:56] <oopsfire> I tried to fsck the partition etc, and it noted a lot of bad sectors
[22:57] <Estefii> porfavor habladmre en españok
[22:57] <hjboy> whats the difference between socks4/5 http tunnel and VPN?
[22:57] <chelz> chillindave: yes. look into ssh x forwarding and FreeNX
[22:57] <chelz> !freenx | chillindave
[22:57] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ok thanks
[22:57] <Mohero> puff: this is Linux, you can read a file that is open ;-)
[22:57] <chelz> oopsfire: boot to an ubuntu livecd, open up Partition Editor, and right click on all the partitions and click "check". then hit the Apply button
[22:57] <Mohero> puff: billware(tm) won't let you do that, I always do a "live" backup of my servers, it's the only way
[22:57] <Estefii> ubuntu
[22:58] <oopsfire> After a lot of time spent trying to get fsck to go through the whole process, I was able to boot in to ubuntu again. Being the knob I am I didn't backup the data, but rather let the pc sit, and when I came back to it,, it was locked up again, and would not let me boot either os
[22:58] <oopsfire> And the error 17 started
[22:58] <oopsfire> I am not able to mount both partitions using the live cd
[22:58] <n3r0> how do i register?
[22:58] <oopsfire> I am now* able
[22:59] <chillindave> chelz, Thank you.
[22:59] <oopsfire> But they wont boot, making me think its a partition table prob
[22:59] <Mohero> puff: see PM.
[22:59] <oopsfire> But I've tried a bunch of stuff to no avail
[22:59] <chelz> oopsfire: run a check on both of them with Partition Editor from a livecd
[22:59] <oopsfire> Ok, chelz
[22:59] <nu2linux> Ok so if I want to have to distros would both have to be debian base
[22:59] <tiredbones> I would like to read excel spread sheet using python. The only package I found was xlrd. Is this the most current way of doing this?
[23:00] <JenniferCarlson> Okay, here's a strange one!
[23:00] <nu2linux> like one be gnome and another kde
[23:00] <BluesKaj> tiredbones, did you try OO ?
[23:00] <JenniferCarlson> I encrypted my home directory on Lucid Lynx, then promptly forgot my login password.
[23:01] <JenniferCarlson> So I got one of those live cds, mounted the hard disk, and manually edited my /etc/shadow file... so now I can login!
[23:01] <hagedorn> hello, how can i start only one program, for example xterm after login without the panels etc ?
[23:01] <lubse> hello, what package can I install to control my cpu fan speed?
[23:01] <switch10_> nu2linux:  do you want the two distros to share a /home partition?
[23:01] <Mohero> oopsfire: sounds like didgy disk / memory, I had a similar issue not so long back of hard-locks. it turned out to be memory, but it wasn't caught before it destroyed much of my data.
[23:01] <JenniferCarlson> Unfortunately I can't mount my home directory.
[23:01] <tiredbones> BluesKaj, how would open office help me read excel spread sheets?
[23:01] <tomasz> l
[23:01] <chelz> oopsfire: try rebooting after repairing. if that doesn't fix the issue then you might try reinstalling grub, here's how to reinstall grub: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD
[23:01] <tomasz> hi
[23:01] <oopsfire> Mohero, I hope it's not a hardware issue
[23:01] <JenniferCarlson> I do have the original mount passphrase, a big long string of random letters and numbers...
[23:01] <tomasz> how can i add polish room to xchat?? please help
[23:01] <deegen> tiredbones: OpenOffice reads excel files
[23:02] <nu2linux> I have 250 gigs I would love to besides the swap and stuff two have to split the hard drive
[23:02] <BluesKaj> tiredbones, dunno, i thought it would ...of course i've never tried it.
[23:02] <oopsfire> chelz, Yea, I'm using grub vs grub 2
[23:02] <nu2linux> at boot have the option to use either or
[23:02] <oopsfire> I've refused to upgrade to karmic so far
[23:03] <chelz> JenniferCarlson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering%20Your%20Data%20Manually
[23:03] <Estefii> me abeiks ablao
[23:03] <oopsfire> Every ubuntu upgrade breaks something
[23:03] <tiredbones> deegen, I know oo reads excel file, but I have to make a report from the data.
[23:03] <JenniferCarlson> chelz, Thanks!
[23:03] <technikfreak> 1. april guys
[23:03] <JenniferCarlson> chelz, I can do that!
[23:03] <deegen> tiredbones: Gotcha..
[23:03] <oopsfire> ok, and gparted just* now found the partitions so I'll scan them now
[23:03] <chelz> oopsfire: you should try using a separate home partition and install fresh instead of upgrading
[23:04] <tiredbones> deegen, any solutions??
[23:04] <JenniferCarlson> It's just tnat now, I need to change the passphrase that "wraps" my original passphrase. What do you think I should do?
[23:04] <switch10_> nu2lINUX:  if you are not sharing a home partition, I do not see why you couldn't use 2 or more distros of any flavor..  as long as you use the same boot loader, you should be fine.  ie slackware, and Im sure others use lilo by default instead of grub.
[23:04] <vbrocz> hi
[23:04] <vbrocz> im new to irc
[23:04] <deegen> tiredbones: Well, it's likley possible, but I'm far from an OO expert. Sorry.
[23:04] <BluesKaj> tiredbones, http://www.saltycrane.com/blog/2010/02/using-python-write-excel-openoffice-calc-spreadsheet-ubuntu-linux/
[23:05] <tiredbones> BluesKaj, I'll take a look at that. thanks
[23:05] <shane2peru> ok, I sync Palm with evolution, this last time I synced it wanted to restore, I told it no, I have info on my palm and info on the desktop, I need them synced, how can I get around the restore thing and just sync?
[23:05] <chelz> JenniferCarlson: this might also help: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/03/mounting-your-encrypted-home-from.html
[23:05] <JenniferCarlson> It's the one in /home/.ecryptfs/jennifer/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase
[23:05] <JenniferCarlson> chelz, I will look at that too!
[23:05] <Estefii> sois tontos
[23:05] <chelz> JenniferCarlson: the forum threads at the top might help: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+encrypted+change+passphrase
[23:06] <JenniferCarlson> chelz, Ooh, this is looking good
[23:08] <Estefii> jhon
[23:08] <Estefii> john
[23:08] <puff> Mohero: I added sudo to the commands.
[23:09] <puff> Mohero: Re: doing a clean install and then writing the backup back onto the new install, I'm on 8.10, so a clean install of the current distro might be siginficnatly different.
[23:10] <puff> Mohero: I figured the best bet would be to use gparted to movef about 5 GB from the bulk partition to the / partition, then upgrade.
[23:10] <sine0> oi
[23:11] <lubse> hello, I have a GA-EX58-UD5 motherboard, and a nexus i7 CPU cooler
[23:11] <lubse> how can I change the CPU fan speed?
[23:12] <zvacet> nu2linux : no one can be debian based and second something different
[23:12] <Mohero> puff: yep, well, always do a Base-install of what you _HAVE_
[23:12] <Mohero> puff: it's easier to restore that way
[23:12] <randomusr> does anyone know of a CLI based irc client?
[23:12] <Mohero> puff: and next month, you can upgrade to the next LTS ;-)
[23:13] <Mohero> the new LTS means mucho work for people like me...
[23:13] <Mohero> randomusr: IRSSI is what I use :-)
[23:13] <randomusr> hmm
[23:13] <mood> evening all - its been a long time
[23:14] <nu2linux> I have another question How do you reset all of the settings so all the fonts go back to the original
[23:14] <randomusr> Mohero: thanks.
[23:14]  * mood ohhhh
[23:15]  * mood has been away from irc for 10 years ..... its good to be back
[23:15] <hiexpo> hello all
[23:15] <oopsfire> mood, Catch a fed case?
[23:15] <oopsfire> heh
[23:15] <randomusr> anyone know what tool I can use to extend my linux partition. /dev/sda1 where everying is installed?
[23:15] <chelz> !hi | hiexpo mood
[23:15] <mood> hey dude
[23:15] <puff> Mohero: Well, hopefully I backup, resize, don't _need_ to reinstall and restore, and then upgrade.
[23:16] <chelz> randomusr: Partition Editor lets you grow and shrink ext3 partitions
[23:16] <puff> Mohero: What's your opinion on upgrading my laptop away from LTS and onto the latest and greatest mainstream ubuntu?
[23:16] <randomusr> lmao
[23:16] <Mohero> puff: ahh, you're doing this to upgrade?
[23:16] <puff> Mohero: I don't remember why I ended up installing LTS to begin with.  Probably had problems.
[23:16] <randomusr> chelz: is that built in or available from the repos?
[23:16] <Mohero> I use mainstream on desktop/laptop, and LTS on servers
[23:16] <puff> Mohero: Well, I feel like I should, I guess.
[23:17] <Mohero> one of my desktop normally runs alpha/beta, this time I'm running my laptop as such
[23:17] <sprung> I need a list of all the .deb files that are installed in a standard fresh install of Karmic.
[23:17] <chelz> randomusr: you can install it by running this in a terminal: sudo apt-get install gparted
[23:17] <randomusr> thought it was the same
[23:17] <nu2linux> My friends has a another laptop that he wants to give to me but it has all his settings like the font, font size, background, is there a way to reset it with out reinstalling ubuntu
[23:17] <chelz> randomusr: after you install it, you can find Partition Editor in System -> Administration -> Partition Editor
[23:17] <zvacet> nu2linux : read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=228359
[23:18] <sprung> It's a long story, but I had to do the ubuntu netinstall. I am trying to bring the system up to what you get when you do a cd install on a desktop version.
[23:18] <sprung> So what i need is a list of all the packages that are installed in a fresh install of Karmic.
[23:18] <sprung> please.
[23:18] <puff> Mohero:  Mostly I'm jumping through all these hoops because my / partition keeps fillnig up, but the lack of space in / is also what's been holding me back from upgrading.
[23:18] <chelz> nu2linux: you might try creating a new user account and deleting the old one. when giving a laptop away though it's always a good idea to wipe the harddrive if it has any unencrypted sensitive data on it
[23:18] <Mohero> puff: understood.
[23:19] <chelz> sprung: you can find "manifest" files alongside the ubuntu isos on almost all mirrors
[23:19] <nu2linux> he told me that he only used for the internet
[23:19] <puff> Mohero: See, it's lines like this that convinced me Iwasn't getting excludes right, before:  rsync: readlink "/home/puff/.gvfs" failed: Permission denied (13)
[23:19] <chelz> nu2linux: try making a new user, logging in as that new user, and seeing if the fonts are normal
[23:19] <puff> Mohero: This is in the rsync that's supposed to be excluding /home
[23:19] <sprung> chelz, perfect, that's exactly what i needed, i'm fixed up.
[23:20] <chelz> nu2linux: the only real way to 'reset' an ubuntu system is to reinstall though. most reinstalls shouldn't take much longer than 40min
[23:20] <Mohero> puff: err.... odd...
[23:21] <Mohero> puff: send me a nudge when you rise tomorrow, (pm might be best) I can then check my scripts, right now I do have to snooze.
[23:21] <puff> Mohero: Okay, g'night.
[23:21] <nu2linux> I download the flash players and youtube is still kind of choppy
[23:21] <puff> Mohero:  Yeah, it's definitely backing up /home.  Oh well.  Thanks again and good night.
[23:22] <nu2linux> I use it alot to look things up so I would love to not be forced to go the the laptop that has the enemy I mean windows
[23:22] <Typos_King> nu2linux:   try right-clicking on a flash animation and unchecking the 'enable hardware acceleration'
[23:22] <randomusr> shouldn't  "fdisk -l" display my hard drives?
[23:23] <Knirgh> randomusr: try that as root
[23:23] <boourns> nu2linux, what app u talking about?
[23:25] <nu2linux> Adobe flash plugin 10
[23:25] <nu2linux> the one in the ubuntu software center
[23:27] <ZykoticK9> randomusr, so "sudo fdisk -l" should show you, as Knirgh suggested
[23:28] <randomusr> Zykotick9: got thanks
[23:28] <zzzZoltan> ok, so two steps forward one step back...
[23:29] <vikasap> How do I check if I already have the mxDateTime lib for python already installed in my ubuntu ?
[23:29] <zzzZoltan> my raid5 array seems to feel a little better, I can identify everything with mdadm but trying auto assembly gives segmentation fault. any ideas?
[23:30] <jamiejackson> i'm trying to hit f12 in a virtual machine (vbox) but ubuntu keeps intercepting it, and bringing up desktop search. how do i disable that?
[23:32] <chelz> zzzZoltan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=698132
[23:32] <zzzZoltan> thanks, i'll give it a go
[23:32] <someonme14123> how do i install graphics card drivers?
[23:32] <chelz> zzzZoltan: seems that might be caused by kernel version mismatch or a faulty drive.
[23:32] <randomusr> is it possible to resize an existing partition using the space of another that is empty? Do I need to run as root?
[23:32] <chelz> zzzZoltan: try doing the 3 you know work, then try adding the 4th
[23:33] <chelz> randomusr: two partitions cannot occupy the same space. you have to delete or resize a partition if you want to use its space.
[23:33] <zzzZoltan> chelz: k, i'll give it a try looks like a good solution (=
[23:34] <zvacet> randomusr: first shrink one and on that unallocated space expand partition you want
[23:34] <lars_bauer> howto install danish keyboard ?
[23:34] <chocamo> In windows you can press the window key next to alt to pull up the start menu. How can I pull up the applications menu from the keyboard?
[23:34] <dialtone> hi, I'm trying to configure xvfb but I keep getting this error: [config/dbus] couldn't register object path
[23:34] <chelz> randomusr: when you launch Partition Editor it should prompt you for your password, since it does run as root
[23:34] <zzzZoltan> chelz: aaah, no md superblock detect on /dev/sde, i'll try to assemble the rest
[23:34] <dialtone> anyone has any hint on how to proceed to investigate that?
[23:35] <chelz> chocamo: Alt + F1
[23:35] <chelz> chocamo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[23:35] <chocamo> chelz great thanks
[23:35] <randomusr> I've delete the partition I want to use, but the resize option is not available.... what gives?
[23:35] <chelz> chocamo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts#Desktop%20shortcuts
[23:35] <zvacet> lars_bauer : system>preferences>kayboard> layouts>add one you want
[23:35] <chelz> randomusr: what filesystem is it? and how many partitions do you have?
[23:36] <lars_bauer> zvacet, i am on at bb server without all the neat user interfaces
[23:36] <randomusr> 1 17gb ext4, 1 - 29gb unallocated, 2 gb swap, and 100 gb unused
[23:36] <zvacet> lars_bauer: sorry then I don´t know
[23:36] <jamiejackson> how do i prevent f12 from launching desktop search?
[23:37] <chelz> lars_bauer: dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[23:38] <chelz> lars_bauer: that is for the keyboard, for the locale and general languages you can change it with this also: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[23:38] <chelz> lars_bauer: i got that from here: http://www.howtoforge.com/changing-language-and-keyboard-layout-on-various-linux-distributions
[23:38] <chelz> randomusr: and you want to resize your ext4?
[23:38] <zvacet> randomusr : witch one you want to resize you have unused partition not unallocated space
[23:39] <chelz> randomusr: you can't resize a partition you have currently mounted. if you want to resize the partition you are currently booted to you have to restart into a livecd and do it from there.
[23:39] <randomusr> well crap
[23:39] <Prez00> hello, somebordy have Adobe Air installed on karmic?   I installed ok, but dowloading AIR apps on FF doesn't seem to recognize the plugin or add-on
[23:40] <lubse> how can I change the CPU fan speed? joining fan club didnt work -.-
[23:40] <randomusr> lemme guess gparted live cd is the best way to go?
[23:40] <chelz> jamiejackson: system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts  or  http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/GnomeKeyboardShortcut
[23:40] <chelz> randomusr: that will work but an ubuntu livecd works great also
[23:40] <lars_bauer> chelz, how do i install dpkg-reconfigure ?
[23:40] <chelz> randomusr: i personally use ubuntu livecds
[23:40] <chelz> lars_bauer: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[23:41] <randomusr> 10.04
[23:41] <randomusr> oops
[23:41] <jamiejackson> chelz, i tried there, but i don't see f12 mapped to anything :-/
[23:41] <lars_bauer> chelz, hardy
[23:42] <squarcolors> um
[23:43] <djbeenie> hey guys, whats the easiest way to find out what version of a package that is installed?
[23:43] <randomusr> is it possible to use the free space as a place to mount any newly installed programs and files?
[23:44] <Typos_King> randomusr:  what?
[23:44] <chelz> randomusr: all of that is in your main partition. to create more space you resize your main partition.
[23:44] <Typos_King> djbennie:     dpkg -l | grep -i  PACKAGESTRINGHERE;
[23:45] <randomusr> Typos_King, I want a partition for my files incase I have to re-install. I was going to just merge the free space but decided not to
[23:45] <djbeenie> Typos_King, awesme thanks!
[23:45] <TurbineX> Vi, emacs, ed. The great question.
[23:45] <chelz> randomusr: you can make a new partition and put backups on it
[23:46] <zvacet> randomusr : so you want to make separate home?
[23:46] <chelz> randomusr: http://www.debianadmin.com/backup-and-restore-your-ubuntu-system-using-sbackup.html
[23:46] <Zider> TurbineX: nano
[23:46] <r0r41m4> vi the best
[23:46] <randomusr> That makes more sense for what I wanted to accomplish when I installed
[23:46] <C-S-B-N900> you can lvm with snapshots.
[23:46] <C-S-B-N900> thats cool.
[23:46] <TurbineX> I like vi personally. I like the fact its everywhere.
[23:47] <zemmod> buenas tardes
[23:47] <chelz> randomusr: you can make a new partition just for home, copy your /home over from / using something like rsync, then delete the /home from / and setup your new partition to mount as /home
[23:47] <randomusr> TurbineX, VIM totally or JOE
[23:47] <Typos_King> randomusr:    that's the preferred setup, yes, usuallly from the getgo, you make a small partition for your system and apps, and others for your docs and media... and I'd just grab the free space, make a partition off it and dump my files there
[23:47] <r0r41m4> you can try vim is pretty well
[23:47] <Typos_King> !es | zemmod
[23:47] <nishanth>  i am trying to rename something in /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereoand i can't change the name..
[23:47] <t3chkommie_> hey everyone, what channel is the beta being discussed on?
[23:47] <nishanth> can someone help me
[23:47] <nishanth> ?
[23:47] <acicula> t3chkommie_: #ubuntu+1
[23:47] <Typos_King> nishanth:     you  need to sudo it
[23:47] <ardchoille> !sudo | nishanth
[23:48] <C-S-B-N900> nishanth: do you get a perm error?
[23:48] <Typos_King> nishanth:     sudo mv OLDNAME NEWNAME
[23:48] <chelz> nishanth: sudo mv
[23:48] <t3chkommie_> thanks!
[23:48] <r0r41m4> review the file permission nishanth
[23:48] <nishanth> but i need to be in the right folder first
[23:48] <randomusr> Typos_King, could I do the same for newly installed programs?
[23:48] <nishanth> how do i do that?
[23:48] <zemmod> graxias
[23:48] <Typos_King> nishanth:     cd /PATHHERE/RIGHTFOLDER
[23:48] <TurbineX> Sudo apt-get install coffee
[23:49] <TurbineX> I'm tired. :(
[23:49] <chelz> nishanth: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[23:49] <randomusr> lol
[23:49] <Typos_King> randomusr:    to tell the app to install to that partition?   if the app gives you such choice, or is standalone, yes
[23:49] <r0r41m4> you can use ls -l over the file
[23:49] <nishanth>  cd /usr/shared/sounds/ubuntu/stereo
[23:49] <nishanth> bash: cd: /usr/shared/sounds/ubuntu/stereo: No such file or directory
[23:50] <Rafael_> can somebody help me with this comand, i get an error: sudo mount -t cifs -o username=xxxx,password=xxx //192.168.1.106/DRG/"D"/My Documents/Charts /home/rgotten/charts.windows
[23:50] <Typos_King> nishanth:     then it isn't there :)
[23:50] <randomusr> Typos_King, it's dependent on the application?
[23:50] <acicula> Rafael_: needs a \ before the space ?
[23:50] <Typos_King> Rafael_    what's the cifs about?
[23:50] <acicula> or wrap in " "
[23:50] <Typos_King> randomusr:    yes
[23:50] <zroysch> i would like to make backspace work in chrome 5 in ubuntu.
[23:50] <randomusr> Typos_King, I'm afraid with the number of updates and new programs that I'll run out of space on 17 gb easily
[23:50] <zroysch> how can i do this
[23:51] <nishanth> come on i am seeing the folder right infront of me . i can get there from file systems
[23:51] <nishanth> but not using terminal
[23:51] <nishanth> how can this be
[23:51] <nishanth> ?
[23:51] <zvacet> randomusr: you will not don´t be afraid about that
[23:51] <chocamo> chelz: is there any way to bring up the wireless/networking app thats in the top right by the time?
[23:51] <acicula> nishanth: no such file means its not there
[23:51] <Typos_King> randomusr:    ie, Firefox the one you download from mozilla.org comes in a bz2 package, and is standalone, you can pretty much dump it anywhere and will run from there, no installation needed
[23:51] <norbi905> Really stupid question since i'm logged in here anyways, pdf files open "Document Viewer".  What would the command line be for that app?
[23:51] <chocamo> i dont see it on there
[23:51] <r0r41m4> use any file browse , right button clik properties
[23:51] <chelz> chocamo: i don't think so but you can make your own keyboard shortcuts
[23:51] <acicula> nishanth: evince
[23:51] <zvacet> randomusr: 17GB is more then enough for root
[23:52] <nishanth> tell me how i can login as root?
[23:52] <acicula> !root
[23:52] <chelz> lars_bauer: did "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" work?
[23:52] <randomusr> good point.... Typos_King,  I imagine that for source installs I can install where I choose as long as the deps are in the same directory?
[23:52] <Typos_King> nishanth:     ... I'd think is a typo then
[23:52] <chelz> zroysch: did you install the linux beta?
[23:52] <Alpha-DOG> hello all
[23:53] <chelz> norbi905: evince
[23:53] <ardchoille> nishanth: That root accont is locked, it's a security feature. there is no need tolog in as root, use sudo
[23:53] <r0r41m4> use a administrative account change the root password and ready
[23:53] <nishanth> ok
[23:53] <randomusr> Linux is much like my girlfriend every 30 days.... bloated
[23:53] <r0r41m4> use the terminal
[23:53] <Prez00> I try to install AIR applications and it wants to always install AIR, although I donwloaded AIR and installed it ok
[23:53] <r0r41m4> su
[23:53] <nishanth> hey i got in....it was a typo
[23:53] <Typos_King> randomusr:    not all compiled packages will run standalone, I mean,the ones you do a 'make install' on them, they usually move stuff over system folders
[23:53] <Prez00> apparently firefox does not recognize it being installed
[23:53] <zroysch> chelz i have installed 5.0.342.7 beta
[23:54] <norbi905> chelz:  Wow thank you, I don't think I would have ever figured it out.  Such a random name :(
[23:54] <acicula> r0r41m4: dont encourage people to login as root, the sudo system and passwordless root is there for a reason
[23:54] <chelz> Prez00: if firefox doesn't recognize it then i wouldn't call it being properly installed
[23:54] <SeaPhor> are we enabling the root account and setting a password in Ubuntu now???
[23:54] <randomusr> Typos_King, so the ones that just compile without doing make-install are standalone
[23:54] <Prez00> chelz, the installer said it was installed ok, how can I add it to plugins or addons?
[23:54] <chelz> norbi905: you can add a launcher to something like that on your desktop, then right click it and go to properties and see what it opens
[23:54] <chelz> Prez00: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[23:54] <Typos_King> randomusr:    those..... I'd think they may yes
[23:54] <Prez00> chelz, the AIR apps application isntaller is on the menu...
[23:54] <Prez00> chelz, Karmic
[23:54] <chelz> zroysch: from the ppa?
[23:54] <r0r41m4> acicula : the only way to learn how to use a sytem is getting into
[23:55] <randomusr> cool
[23:55] <zroysch> zroysch: hmm i dont know what that is. i believe I added something to the sources.list and installed from apt-get
[23:55] <chelz> Prez00: did you "sudo ./AdobeAIRInstaller.bin" ?
[23:55] <r0r41m4> the only way to get into is being root
[23:55] <zvacet> randomusr: more important is what you are going to do with your unallocated space and unused partition then think about space on root
[23:55] <acicula> r0r41m4: dont need to be root to learn
[23:55] <Prez00> chelz, yes I did
[23:55] <norbi905> chelz:  yeah I guess that would do it.  From what I remember there was also a command to search through man pages, if I did that with "pdf" I bet it would show the app that relates to it.  Thanks anyways
[23:55] <chelz> norbi905: man -k
[23:55] <chelz> norbi905: also man apropos
[23:56] <randomusr> Typos_King,  my only issue with compiling source packages is finding the proper deps, that seems to be a headache often
[23:56] <Prez00> chelz, could it because FF was open?
[23:56] <chelz> norbi905: read all of this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[23:56] <SeaPhor> r0r41m4, as i agree for any other system, THAT is NOT the ubuntu way and this is a Ubuntu support channel
[23:56] <ardchoille> r0r41m4: Please take that elsewhere, we don't encourage people to use the root account here. I've beenusing Ubuntu since 2005 and have never needed to log in as root. It's unnecessary and unsupported
[23:56] <r0r41m4> Im not agree with you, good users need to lear how to
[23:56] <chelz> Prez00: worth a shot. close fx, install it, then start it up again.
[23:56] <norbi905> chelz:  Thats the one, well onto reading Linux 101 :)  Thanks
[23:56] <acicula> r0r41m4: thats cool, but not here
[23:56] <randomusr> zvacet, I'll figure it out....
[23:56] <Typos_King> randomusr:    well, it comes with the territory :)
[23:56] <r0r41m4> ok
[23:56] <Alpha-DOG> where can iget emerald themer ?
[23:56] <nishanth> how do you copy a file from desktop to some other folder using terminal
[23:56] <nishanth> ?
[23:57] <chelz> Prez00: you can check fx plugins by putting "about:plugins" (without the quotes) in your fx address bar
[23:57] <zvacet> randomusr : it is two min job I can help you if you want to
[23:57] <chelz> Alpha-DOG: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[23:57] <unop> nishanth, cp ~/Desktop/file /some/other/directory/
[23:57] <Alpha-DOG> 9.10
[23:57] <randomusr> zvacet: what's that? what part?
[23:57] <acicula> nishanth: with cp <source> <dest>, type man cp for documentation
[23:57] <Prez00> chelz, i did, AIR is not there, so I though i might have to do an ln -s for the libCore.so to plugins directory
[23:57] <Typos_King> nishanth:   isn't your file manager providing already a 'root' session?
[23:57] <Prez00> chelz, I just can't find exactly where it was I had to link
[23:57] <zvacet> randomusr: repartitioning your HD and make separate home partition
[23:58] <r0r41m4> use sudo a launch the file manager from console
[23:58] <Typos_King> nishanth:   I think you can run nautilus as sudo, just run gksu and run nautilus from there, just be very careful, do what you have and exit  the session
[23:58] <jamiejackson> how do i disable f12 from launching desktop search? fyi, f12 isn't mapped to anything in system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[23:58] <Alpha-DOG> haha just tryed and done :P the emerald
[23:58] <acicula> Typos_King: unless you explicitly add it there is no run as root filebrowser, and its not a good idea either
[23:58] <Typos_King> nishanth:   gksudo rather
[23:59] <Prez00> chelz, reinstalled, no Air plugin in firefox
[23:59] <chelz> Prez00: the installer supposedly should 'just work'
[23:59] <Typos_King> hehe
[23:59] <chelz> Prez00: maybe restart and try again
[23:59] <s4h>  /msg NickServ identify anzu
[23:59] <bigtom21485> someone help im not getting sound from my sound card
[23:59] <r0r41m4> Whtas you problem with administrative privilegies
[23:59] <bigtom21485> :-(
[23:59] <chelz> Prez00: you sure you're actually running the installer?
[23:59] <SeaPhor> r0r41m4, just a fyi, theres not much you cant do with "sudo -i" that you couldn't do "as-root" (root@averatec17:~#) <<-- on mine ;-)
[23:59] <Prez00> chelz, wow restart, haven't done that in a while, haha