[02:32] <claybustr> There really needs to be an FAQ called "You don't know Jack"
[02:34] <holstein> claybustr: lol
[02:34] <holstein> how is it going?
[02:34] <holstein> you having JACK woes?
[02:36] <claybustr> I have ubuntu studio karmic installed. I have jackd running, I have pulse dumping sounds to jack. I have hydrogen running. I have the meter bridge showing activity from both pulse (Rhythmbox) and hydrogen. I can run envy24ctl and see activity on HW1/2 inputs from my mixing board (but no output) - I'm 80% certain this is a patch bay problem, but I can't get anything in or out of the card - well into the card but it stops there.
[02:37] <holstein> hmmm
[02:37] <holstein> you got a maudio delta?
[02:37] <holstein> 1010lt or something?
[02:38] <rlameiro> did you choosed the outputs?
[02:38] <rlameiro> or the fullduplex?
[02:38] <holstein> hey rlameiro :)
[02:38] <claybustr> maudio 2496 envy24ctl shows activity on inputs (so alsa seems to be working) but none of my apps have seen it
[02:38] <claybustr> fullduplex
[02:38] <rlameiro> holstein: ma man! :D
[02:38] <holstein> hehe
[02:38]  * holstein high-fives rlameiro 
[02:39] <holstein> claybustr: can you start over
[02:39] <holstein> a little more simple
[02:39]  * rlameiro low-fives holstein 
[02:39] <holstein> maybe just jackd
[02:39] <claybustr> re-expain or back up to setp one
[02:39] <holstein> and a softsynth or something
[02:39] <holstein> get pulse out of the mix for a minute
[02:39] <holstein> claybustr: have you ever heard anything running jack?
[02:39] <rlameiro> yeap.... good idea pulse.... is kinda.... welll
[02:40] <claybustr> negatory
[02:40] <holstein> hmmm
[02:40] <rlameiro> is jack runnig?
[02:40] <claybustr> I think he's deaf-mute
[02:40] <claybustr> yes, jack is running, rolling
[02:40] <holstein> claybustr: you start jack with qjackctl?
[02:40] <claybustr> yes
[02:41] <holstein> no errors then...
[02:41] <holstein> just rolling, and no sound..
[02:41] <claybustr> occasional xrun but no
[02:41] <claybustr> yes
[02:41] <rlameiro> go to the setup section
[02:41] <claybustr> showing load levels aroudn 14-20%
[02:41] <holstein> have you ever heard anything from the card?
[02:41] <claybustr> no
[02:41] <holstein> hmmm
[02:42] <claybustr> hold on a sec - lemme try something REALLY stupid
[02:42] <rlameiro> go to setup and tel us the right column choices that you have
[02:42] <holstein> claybustr: have you tried the other outputs?
[02:42] <holstein> LIKE 3/4 or whatever there called
[02:42] <rlameiro> yeap that could be it
[02:43] <claybustr> ok - its not a bad cable. <cough> now back to asking the collective about my jack woes
[02:43] <rlameiro> claybustr: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1333955/jackd.png
[02:44] <rlameiro> open the connections and oppen al the connections and take a screnshot
[02:44] <holstein> claybustr: try all the outputs too, just for S&G's
[02:44] <holstein> all four
[02:45] <holstein> it has four right?
[02:45] <rlameiro> holstein: could it be because of monitoring?
[02:45] <holstein> maybe im looking at a bad site
[02:45] <holstein> rlameiro: i suppose
[02:45] <holstein> but it shouldnt matter when playing a softsynth
[02:46] <rlameiro> yeap...
[02:46] <rlameiro> weard
[02:46] <rlameiro> i never used the envy so i cant help in there
[02:46] <rlameiro> check if al volumes are up etc..
[02:46] <holstein> claybustr: when you look at that 'audio' tab
[02:46] <holstein> like the one from rlameiro 's screenshot
[02:47] <holstein> do you have some connections made?
[02:47] <holstein> rlameiro: what is your card?
[02:47] <holstein> with 4 outs?
[02:47] <rlameiro> intels....
[02:47] <rlameiro> onboard laptop
[02:48] <holstein> interesting
[02:48] <holstein> do all 4 work?
[02:48] <rlameiro> i have two earphone outs :D
[02:48] <holstein> OH
[02:48] <holstein> cool
[02:48] <rlameiro> yeap
[02:48] <claybustr> 8 outs, I hooked them all up
[02:48] <holstein> handy
[02:48] <rlameiro> i had a problem with it, it didnt play the pd patch, i found i had my earphones on the second plug, lol
[02:48] <rlameiro> but i use tha FA-101
[02:49] <holstein> claybustr: i would open one thing
[02:49] <holstein> like hydrogen
[02:49] <holstein> and check the routing
[02:49] <holstein> LIKE
[02:49] <holstein> fire up jack
[02:49] <holstein> then hydrogen
[02:49] <holstein> then you should see hydrogen in the connections area
[02:50] <holstein> and make sure the output from hydrogen goes to the playback on your card
[02:50] <holstein> im also not too sure what eny24 looks like
[02:50] <holstein> OR how much of it takes over, if any
[02:51] <claybustr> got an error on startup even though it was just running  - could not connect to jack server as client
[02:51] <holstein> *the routing
[02:51] <holstein> claybustr: COOL
[02:51] <rlameiro> so jack wasnt tunnig,,
[02:51] <holstein> now were getting somewhere
[02:51] <rlameiro> running
[02:51] <claybustr> no it was, rolling, and it was giving loads and occasion xruns
[02:52] <rlameiro> weird
[02:52] <holstein> rlameiro: i wish pipeman was around
[02:52] <holstein> hes got a 1010lt
[02:52] <holstein> and uses envy24
[02:52] <rlameiro> yeahhh
[02:53] <claybustr> brb going to use BRB to reset jack
[02:55] <rlameiro> holstein: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/ControlsRedesign
[02:55] <rlameiro> what do you think of it?
[02:55] <holstein> are you running lucid yet?
[02:55] <holstein> studio-wise?
[02:55] <rlameiro> dualbooting
[02:55] <rlameiro> :D
[02:55] <rlameiro> karmic-lucid
[02:56] <holstein> whenever im about to upgrade
[02:56] <holstein> i'll hit an issue on the EEE
[02:56] <holstein> and i'll change my mind
[02:56] <rlameiro> i am going to test the firewire and jack and install a rt kernel from the ppas to test it audio wise
[02:57] <holstein> i got a spare box
[02:57] <holstein> i just havnet taken the time to config it
[02:57] <holstein> i got to change the HD and put in a firewire card
[02:58] <rlameiro> holstein: i am testing it on my 2nd hadd 7200 rpm for audio
[02:58] <rlameiro> i will redesign my entire laptop functionality
[02:58] <rlameiro> I will dualboot it with vanilla ubuntu and ubuntustudio
[02:59] <holstein> i like to do it that way too
[02:59] <rlameiro> i will try to use a comon /home
[02:59] <rlameiro> i dont know if it is a good idea...
[02:59] <holstein> i know you shouldnt need to
[02:59]  * rlameiro thinks common /home will have a lot of problems :D
[02:59] <holstein> hmmm
[02:59] <claybustr> back - and jack restarted right away when I started up qjack, running again
[03:00] <holstein> i usually just keep separate installs
[03:00] <holstein> OR boxes
[03:00] <rlameiro> claybustr: some errors on the message box?
[03:00] <holstein> hmmm
[03:00] <claybustr> no errors
[03:00] <rlameiro> I just have my lap, the boxes are for other familiar uses
[03:00] <holstein> SO you have just jack running?
[03:00] <claybustr> yup - solo jack
[03:00] <holstein> fire up hydrogen
[03:00] <holstein> and lets try and track its path down
[03:01] <holstein> and make sure its routed all the way to the outputs
[03:01] <holstein> and go from there
[03:01] <rlameiro> holstein: Pipeman is on OSM
[03:01] <holstein> OH
[03:01] <holstein> claybustr: if you want
[03:01] <holstein> --- /j #opensourcemusicians
[03:01] <holstein> pipemanmusic has a delta 1010lt
[03:01] <claybustr> ok - hydrogen running and the load shot up from 4 up to 12 and then settled back down a bit
[03:02] <rlameiro> normal
[03:02] <holstein> claybustr: thats cool
[03:02] <holstein> go ahead and start one of the demos in hydrogen or something
[03:02] <holstein> and then go over the the connections area of qjackctl
[04:18] <niwo> hello. Is the Nvidia driver 1.80 (or 195.36.15) supported by karmc?
[04:20] <rlameiro> if it is suported on the normal ubuntu, it will on ubuntustudio
[04:22] <niwo> i dunno if it is, im just askin, cause my ati card in my laptop is not supported by jaunty. And i dont want to touch my studio on the pc. But i will try with a live dvd.
[04:25] <niwo> when there is one ^^
[04:25] <holstein> hey niwo
[04:25] <holstein> yup
[04:25] <holstein> i was going to say
[04:25] <holstein> the ubuntustudio DVD is not live
[04:25] <holstein> BUT you can try a live CD
[04:25] <holstein> just vanilla
[04:25] <holstein> and like rlameiro said
[04:25] <holstein> if its supported in ubuntu, ubuntustudio will be the same
[04:25] <niwo> so what i use a ubuntu karmic cd. I know ubuntu studio is just a bunch of packages ;)
[04:26] <rlameiro> basically yes
[04:26] <rlameiro> the power of deb packaging :D
[04:26] <holstein> w00t
[04:26] <rlameiro> well
[04:26] <rlameiro> gotta go
[04:27] <rlameiro> cya all
[04:27] <niwo> yes.
[04:27] <niwo> bye
[04:27] <holstein> laterz rlameiro
[09:44] <MobiusJedi> hello, i am confused. I can hear my guitar through my sound card, but I can't seem to record it
[10:03] <ShadeS> ok
[10:03] <ShadeS> you set the recording input as the hole you're plugging your guitar into?
[10:03] <MobiusJedi> well, in audacity there's only one alsa option for input
[10:04] <MobiusJedi> i have the box checked in the alsa mixer for the correct input capture
[10:04] <ShadeS> and the volumes turned up for recording?
[10:04] <ShadeS> and not muted?
[10:04] <MobiusJedi> yes
[10:04] <ShadeS> dunno
[10:04] <ShadeS> i'd have to fire my studio up
[10:04] <ShadeS> and i need to recreate a partition table for that
[10:04] <ShadeS> so it'll be a minute, better of asking someone else? ;(
[10:04] <ShadeS> try #ubuntu
[10:05] <MobiusJedi> i posted in both
[10:05] <MobiusJedi> i'm thinking this is going to be a stubborn issue
[10:06] <MobiusJedi> considering that I had to reinstall ubuntu from scratch a couple weeks ago to get sound at all
[22:26] <wirelessdreamer> has anyone here had luck getting jack and pulse to work together in 10.4 beta?
[22:26] <wirelessdreamer> programs start dying all over on me when I start jack in 10.4