[00:13] <xenaxon> hello, can someone recommend me a good php editor
[00:13] <xenaxon> php dk
[00:14] <BluesKaj> !php
[00:15] <xenaxon> :)
[00:15] <xenaxon> editor!
[00:15] <xenaxon> not SERVER
[00:15] <xenaxon> I already have the server
[00:16] <Typos_King> .. php
[00:17] <xenaxon> ?
[00:17] <keffie_jayx> is there any good app to record my dektop in kde?
[00:18] <James147> !info kdenlive | keffie_jayx
[00:18] <James147> ^^ seen alot of people asking that latly :S
[00:19] <Typos_King> keffie_jayx: http://elantux.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/recordmydesktopscreenshot.jpg
[00:19] <keffie_jayx> James147: kde 4.4.2 rocking and not many screencasts
[00:19] <keffie_jayx> Typos_King: does it have any gtk dependencies?
[00:19] <Typos_King> keffie_jayx: yes
[00:20] <Typos_King> there are 2 versions, recordmydesktop and recordmydesktop-gtk  which I think is just the front end you see  on that shot
[00:21] <Typos_King> xenaxon:   Geany may do, jEdit is another..... I use quanta which is a web IDE, does php files too
[00:21] <BluesKaj> xenaxon, php-eclipse
[00:22] <Typos_King> xenaxon: http://www.linuxsoft.cz/screenshot_img/160-a.jpg    <--- quanta plus
[00:22] <xenaxon> I have eclipse
[00:22] <xenaxon> but it's for Java
[00:22] <lubse> hello
[00:22] <xenaxon> I want it for php
[00:22] <lubse> what is the cmd to upload a file via ssh?
[00:22] <xenaxon> how do I uninstall eclipse?
[00:23] <xenaxon> how do you uninstall something
[00:23] <Typos_King> lubse:    dunno, I'd assume 'put'
[00:23] <xenaxon> in kuubu
[00:23] <BluesKaj> xenaxon, interesting, have you done any linux searches for php editors ?
[00:23] <xenaxon> I installed eclipse
[00:23] <xenaxon> but how do I uninstsall it
[00:23] <xenaxon> I installed the one for java
[00:24] <xenaxon> and I need php
[00:24] <Typos_King> sudo apt-get remove PACKAGENAME;
[00:24] <James147> xenaxon: sudo aptitude remove eclipse    but eclipse is plugin basied so i dont see why both cant work off the same version
[00:24] <Typos_King> if you dunno the package name, you can use autocomplete in apt-get too
[00:24] <Typos_King> eclip<tab><tab> ..
[00:25] <BluesKaj> depends how it was installed , xenaxon , with a package manager or from open source
[00:25] <xenaxon> thanks
[00:25] <xenaxon> oh
[00:25] <xenaxon> James147: already uninstalled it
[00:25] <xenaxon> but I don't want the java one
[00:25] <xenaxon> don't need it
[00:26] <xenaxon> ok, so now I've downloaded eclipse for php. how do I install it?
[00:26] <xenaxon> it's tar.gz
[00:27] <xenaxon> should I just dearchive?
[00:27] <Typos_King> unzip it :P
[00:27] <Typos_King> there would be a README file
[00:27] <lucitu> lubse: scp is the ssh equiv of cp
[00:27] <xenaxon> ok, done
[00:27] <BluesKaj> xenaxon, tar -xvzf filname.tar.gz
[00:27] <xenaxon> I've unarchived it
[00:28] <xenaxon> unziped*
[00:28] <xenaxon> how do you install it
[00:29] <Typos_King> there would be a README file
[00:29] <Typos_King> hehh
[00:29] <xenaxon> WTF
[00:29] <Typos_King> they should start naming those README_NOW_FOR_REAL_WE_MEAN_IT_REALLY
[00:29] <xenaxon> it's the java eclipse again
[00:30] <xenaxon> wth
[00:30] <Typos_King> you mean, you could have used it with eclipse? hehe
[00:31] <xenaxon> ?
[00:31] <xenaxon> I got the php eclipse
[00:31] <xenaxon> and the java eclipse is still installed
[00:31] <xenaxon> and I just removed it with apt-get remove
[00:32] <BluesKaj> the java part is probly just a oplugin
[00:32] <xenaxon> I know
[00:32] <xenaxon> but I don't want it or need it and also I don't know how to add the php plugin individuall
[00:32] <BluesKaj> find the php plugin
[00:32] <xenaxon> y
[00:32] <xenaxon> I deleted eclipse
[00:32] <xenaxon> it's uninstalling
[00:33] <Typos_King> xenaxon:  "the fault dear Brutus, is not in the stars, is in us, we are the underlines" -- julius ceasar, shakespeare
[00:33] <Typos_King> underlings rather
[00:33]  * Typos_King slaps self
[00:33] <xenaxon> :)))))
[00:33] <Typos_King> xenaxon:  "the fault dear Brutus, is not in the stars, is in us, we are the underlings" -- julius ceasar, shakespeare
[00:33] <Typos_King> better hehehe
[00:33] <xenaxon> yes
[00:33] <xenaxon> but eclipse is still uninstalled
[00:34] <xenaxon> when I click the bin
[00:34] <Typos_King> why not use quanta?
[00:34] <xenaxon> it says: A java runtime bla bla or JDK is required
[00:35] <xenaxon> help
[00:35] <Typos_King> why not use quanta?
[00:35] <Typos_King> hehh
[00:36] <xenaxon> what is a quanta
[00:36] <xenaxon> I want eclipse I'm used to it from wingows
[00:37] <Typos_King> ...
[00:37] <Typos_King> how big is the .gz file you just got?
[00:37] <xenaxon> ok, here we go
[00:37] <Typos_King> is running now/
[00:37] <Typos_King> ? rather
[00:37] <xenaxon> it's gonna take an hour to download 450 mb
[00:37] <Typos_King> heheh
[00:38] <Typos_King> 450mbs.. hehe that's .... heee
[00:38] <xenaxon> I think it's defected
[00:38] <xenaxon> it's not working
[00:38] <Typos_King> for an editor that's 450mbs, it better cook breakfast too
[00:39] <xenaxon> :D
[00:40] <Typos_King> how big is the .gz file you just got?
[00:40] <xenaxon> 138 MB
[00:40] <xenaxon> but it says it needs the JDK
[00:40] <xenaxon> Java Development Kit
[00:40] <xenaxon> in order to work
[00:41] <xenaxon> and I have no idea how to install anything on kubrutu
[00:41] <xenaxon> how do you install a program in kubuntu?
[00:41] <James147> xenaxon: there are many different ways to...
[00:42] <James147> xenaxon: the easiest way is to use packagemanagment
[00:42] <xenaxon> I just unpacked an archive
[00:42] <xenaxon> and I want that program installed
[00:42] <James147> xenaxon: got a feeling the eclipse is one of those "unpack and run" types
[00:42] <xenaxon> yes
[00:42] <xenaxon> it is
[00:42] <James147> xenaxon: thus to install you need to move it where you want to keep it
[00:42] <Typos_King> xenaxon:     138mbs wouldn't need eclipse itself
[00:42] <xenaxon> but It says it needs the JDK
[00:42] <xenaxon> how do I install a JDK
[00:43] <Typos_King> right
[00:43] <James147> xenaxon: sudo aptitude install java6-jdk
[00:43] <Typos_King> so, install java dev... really?..... no just jvm?
[00:43] <xenaxon> JRE
[00:43] <xenaxon> yes
[00:44] <framirez> hola
[00:44] <xenaxon> James147, did that
[00:44] <xenaxon> and eclipse still asks for it
[00:45] <James147> xenaxon: you many need to specify where it is installed...
[00:45] <xenaxon> specify to eclipse
[00:45] <xenaxon> or specify where to install jdk
[00:45] <xenaxon> ?
[00:45] <xenaxon> A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK)
[00:45] <xenaxon> must be available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine
[00:45] <xenaxon> was found after searching the following locations:
[00:45] <xenaxon> /home/xenaxon/Documents/eclipse/jre/bin/java
[00:45] <xenaxon> java in your current PATH
[00:45] <FloodBotK3> xenaxon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:45] <James147> xenaxon: tell eclipse where java is
[00:46] <xenaxon> and how do I do that
[00:46] <James147> xenaxon: whats the output of java -version?
[00:47] <xenaxon> it outputs 6-7 lines
[00:47] <xenaxon> The program Java can be found in the following packages:
[00:47] <Typos_King> right
[00:47] <Typos_King> it needs the jvm
[00:47] <James147> xenaxon: indicating it is installed? or you need to isntall it?
[00:47] <Typos_King> not sure on the jdk
[00:48] <xenaxon> xenaxon@xenaxon-laptop:~$ java -version
[00:48] <xenaxon> The program 'java' can be found in the following packages:
[00:48] <xenaxon>  * gcj-4.4-jre-headless
[00:48] <xenaxon>  * openjdk-6-jre-headless
[00:48] <xenaxon>  * cacao
[00:48] <xenaxon>  * gij-4.3
[00:48] <FloodBotK3> xenaxon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:48] <James147> xenaxon: please use the pastbin :)
[00:49] <xenaxon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/407317/
[00:49] <James147> xenaxon: but that output sounds like java isent on your path :S
[00:49] <xenaxon> ?
[00:50] <xenaxon> eclipse is not installed
[00:50] <xenaxon> wait up my batery is low
[00:50] <Typos_King> hehehe
[00:51] <xenaxon> ok
[00:51] <xenaxon> back
[00:51] <xenaxon> eclipse is just unpacked
[00:51] <xenaxon> but normally it should work unpacked
[00:51] <xenaxon> on windows I only had to install the JDK and then unpack eclipse
[00:51] <xenaxon> and it would work
[00:52] <Typos_King> same here
[00:52] <James147> xenaxon: sorry, damed eclipse crashed my computer.... again.... why cant i run eclipse + virtualbox at the same time... eclipse shouldnt need 1/2 my ram :S
[00:53] <xenaxon> :D
[00:53] <xenaxon> I know
[00:53] <xenaxon> wish I knew some other editor
[00:53] <xenaxon> a simple editor
[00:53] <xenaxon> with autocomplete. that's all I need
[00:53] <James147_> xenaxon: grr, and why dose it store the syntax highliting `with` the workspace :(
[00:54] <xenaxon> :D
[00:54] <Typos_King> ahem, quanta
[00:54] <Typos_King> :P
[00:54] <xenaxon> I'm not very proeficient in eclipse anyway
[00:54] <Typos_King> or... SciTE
[00:54] <xenaxon> does quanta have this:
[00:55] <xenaxon> project folder navigator
[00:55] <Typos_King> this??
[00:55] <Typos_King> hehe
[00:55] <xenaxon> autocomplete
[00:55] <Typos_King> is a web IDe
[00:55] <xenaxon> :D
[00:55] <James147_> xenaxon: i suggest quanta..
[00:56] <Typos_King> and uses a QT'ed Scintilla libraries, so-called QScintilla, which is what many intelli-sense editors use
[00:56] <xenaxon> I'm downloading quanta
[00:56] <xenaxon> is it faster than eclipse?
[00:56] <Typos_King> big time faster, it doenst use java for one :P
[00:56] <xenaxon> wow, it says it will also install like 3000000 plugins
[00:56] <xenaxon> :))
[00:56] <James147_> xenaxon: would hope so, eclipse is a bloated app :S way too much stuff in it
[00:56] <xenaxon> I hate eclipse for being slow
[00:57] <xenaxon> do I still need JDK?
[00:57] <James147_> xenaxon: not if you dont want to develop java
[00:57] <xenaxon> I don't
[00:57] <xenaxon> how do I destroy it
[00:57] <xenaxon> :))
[00:57] <Typos_King> it does projects, it also does teaming stuff, I've used it with Kbear over an ftp session to edit files too, ctrl-s and sends the file over
[00:58] <Typos_King> you can also add/customize your own toolbar if you wish with your own icons, I have a few
[00:58] <xenaxon> ok, here goes quanta
[01:02] <xenaxon> first impression: great!
[01:03] <xenaxon> but it's missing some of the features of eclipse.
[01:05] <Typos_King> well, is not eclipse
[01:05] <Typos_King> so, yeah, a hamburger will have missing features a hotdog have too, doesn't mean it won't fill you up :P
[01:06] <xenaxon> :D
[01:06] <xenaxon> it's good anyway
[01:06] <xenaxon> I can work with it
[01:08] <islington> yeah! basket 2.0 beta is awesome
[01:08] <xenaxon> Typos_King: Is there anyway of setting quanta to automatically upload files via ftp
[01:08] <xenaxon> upon save!
[01:09] <Typos_King> I've done with kbear
[01:09] <Typos_King> but i think it may be doable to set quanta to do it on its own
[01:09] <Typos_King> if you want to give a shot to kbear heheh
[01:10] <Typos_King> that'll do that, open the ftp session in Kbear, right-click the file -> open with > quanta, and from quanta ctrl-s sends it over
[01:11] <xenaxon> ?
[01:11] <xenaxon> kbear is a ftp client
[01:11] <Typos_King> yes
[01:12] <Typos_King> have you checked if quanta has an ftp plugin around?
[01:12] <James147> cant dolphin be used to ftp?
[01:12] <Typos_King> dunno, i think it has
[01:13] <Typos_King> I use krusader.. heheh, it has an ftp facility
[01:13] <James147> it lists the protocal :S
[01:14] <xenaxon> It doesn't I think
[01:15] <xenaxon> 1sec
[01:16] <xenaxon> nope
[01:17] <James147> xenaxon: you sure?
[01:17] <xenaxon> yes
[01:17] <xenaxon> no. not even dolphin has ftp
[01:18] <James147> xenaxon: dosent ftp://sever work?
[01:18] <xenaxon> ftp://server ?
[01:18] <xenaxon> where
[01:18] <James147> xenaxon: dont have acces to a ftp server to test
[01:18] <James147> in teh address bar...
[01:18] <James147> just click the address bar and type ftp://  to use it :)
[01:19] <James147> with the address ^^
[01:19] <xenaxon> yes. works
[01:19] <xenaxon> I've logged in to my host
[01:19] <James147> :)
[01:19] <Typos_King> can you right-click a file and say -> open with > quanta?
[01:19] <Typos_King> in dolphin
[01:20] <xenaxon> only with kate
[01:21] <Typos_King> ok
[01:21] <Typos_King> ahemm
[01:21] <Typos_King> launch Konqueror :), and get into ....  kon.... one sec
[01:21] <xenaxon> oh
[01:21] <xenaxon> yes!
[01:21] <xenaxon> it works
[01:22] <Typos_King> for quanta?
[01:22] <xenaxon> yes
[01:22] <Typos_King> ok
[01:22] <Typos_King> anyhow, the MIME settings are usually set up in Konqueror settings
[01:22] <xenaxon> but I don't want to save it directly anyway
[01:22] <xenaxon> I want to develop offline
[01:22] <Typos_King> if quanta or some app you want added/removed is there, you can do so in konqueror settings
[01:22] <Typos_King> fyi
[01:22] <xenaxon> I don't want to disturb my site visitors
[01:23] <James147> Typos_King: xenaxon: or by system settings -> advanced -> file associations
[01:24] <James147> or alt+f2 "File Ass..."
[01:24] <sabayondweeb> My nic issue is fixed, cure was to shut down 3 computers, unplug the quest modem for several min..   reboot....wired is working fine now    Thank's guys and gals.   :)
[01:24] <Typos_King> xenaxon:    well.... you can do a Save As in quanta, and save it to .... local... if you want to use your remove server resources, I'd say make a copy/mirror of your files to a restricted folder and use that, so the ones on the site aren't disturbed
[01:24] <Typos_King> s/remove/remote/
[01:25] <Typos_King> if you need to just do plain php stuff and markup, I'd say you don't need the ftp session, you can do that with a webserver on http://localhost
[01:26] <xenaxon> wait, I think you didn't understand
[01:27] <xenaxon> right now, I have this situation: I have a live website(it's serving online) and I want to develop offline, and only update the real website when the feature is complete and tested.
[01:27] <xenaxon> I have setup apache/mysql/php/phpmyadmin on localhost
[01:28] <xenaxon> and I've also setup vhosts: www.sitename.lh
[01:28] <Typos_King> xenaxon   then make a mirror/copy of it on the remote server, for your to modify
[01:28] <Typos_King> and login to that folder
[01:28] <xenaxon> yeah
[01:29] <xenaxon> I was hoping that quanta could just update all files on the server that are different from the files on localhost
[01:29] <xenaxon> or something like that
[01:30] <xenaxon> but it's ok. I'll just send them manually
[01:30] <James147> xenaxon: fyi  if your web server supports it I would use the sftp protocal instead, its like ftp but uses ssh to encrypt it
[01:31] <xenaxon> why?
[01:31] <James147> xenaxon: ftp i think sends everything in clear text, easier to get hold of they stuff your transfing... but its just a suggestion
[01:32] <xenaxon> oh, no worry
[01:32] <xenaxon> no one knows my ip
[01:32] <James147> xenaxon: http://www.wise-ftp.com/know-how/ftp_and_sftp.htm  <-
[01:32] <xenaxon> it's impossible to get hold of the conexion I tnink
[01:34] <zus> so after all day crashing i finally found this....and after 12 or more times i get throught he updates, now when it says start game it still crashes....http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=16051   how can i get runes of magic to play?
[01:35] <zus> btw no one in #whinehq isnt saying anything thought id come here.
[01:35] <xenaxon> from my opinion wine sucks, I couldn't get anything I used on wingows to work on kubruntu
[01:36] <zus> im begining toagree xenaxon  nothing i needed to run worked
[01:36] <xenaxon> winamp worked for 1 second
[01:36] <Typos_King> is just an emulator   FYI, not a virtual environment
[01:36] <Typos_King> maybe you need a virtual environment or something
[01:36] <xenaxon> then It crashed and I needed to kill wine to get rid of the window
[01:37] <genii> <cough cough> Wine Is Not an Emulator
[01:37] <xenaxon> like I'd know what an emulator is
[01:37] <zus> not that you can take youtube for gospel but... i've seen tutorials on install i found something on winehq but still nada.....how do i remove runes of magic and wine completely ?
[01:38] <xenaxon> zus, haha that's the same question I asked after 10 minutes of trying wine out
[01:38] <xenaxon> how do I kill the application and delete wine
[01:38] <xenaxon> I couldn't kill the wine app window
[01:38] <xenaxon> it was a pain
[01:38] <James147> genii: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ/#head-8b4fbbe473bd0d51d936bcf298f5b7f0e8d25f2e  <-  :)
[01:39] <xenaxon> wine sucks big time
[01:39] <zus> ya know being a new guy i figure it was end user and i tried everythign ive read and some file moving i got it from not even updateing to where you would click to enter the game so im not completely hopeless  HAHA
[01:40]  * genii hands James147 a cookie
[01:43] <xenaxon> :D
[01:43] <xenaxon> thank you all for all of your help
[01:44] <xenaxon> james147:thanks for help
[01:46] <zus> James147,  thanks for the wine thing im actually there on another tab...looking on how to get this working lol...i dont want to give up since i got it to at leat knock on the games door... but geesh.. glad im not an angry guy
[01:47]  * zus snickers
[01:48] <James147> zus: wine is quite complex, and is still in development so has alot of rough edges, takes a while to figure out how to get it to behave :)
[01:48] <James147> zus: I am still not fully sure how to get most things to work in wine :S not that i need many things to
[01:49] <xenaxon> I only needed 1 damn thing: Macromedia Fireworks
[01:50] <xenaxon> and it failed miserably
[01:50] <zus> i just wanted at least one game...
[01:51] <xenaxon> hehe. I was a game addict in the past. used to play 16 hours per day
[01:51] <zus> wow?
[01:51] <xenaxon> starcraft/warcraft3-dota
[01:51] <xenaxon> I got over it anyway
[01:52] <zus> i have to but wanted to look at rom,  and not just from 20 second  look at what i can do videos
[01:53] <zus> in the end, i learned wine for me is thumbs down. no offense to anyone. you know?
[01:53] <Typos_King> lheheeh
[01:54] <Typos_King> other folks have been able to have several games rolling, sooo
[01:54] <Typos_King> can't say, I've used it but just for the browser for testing
[01:54] <James147> xenaxon: could never stand dota :S
[01:54] <xenaxon> I was a maniac of dota
[01:54] <xenaxon> played it non-stop
[01:54] <xenaxon> I had no social life whatsoever
[01:55] <xenaxon> dota was my life
[01:55] <xenaxon> :D
[01:55] <xenaxon> good times!
[01:55] <zus> i had no social life wich is how i got into pc gaming, most my ps2 games were two players  ha
[01:56] <xenaxon> :D
[01:56] <zus> was amussing to hit start on 2nd controller and  clean house in mortal comebat tohugh
[01:56] <zus> combat**
[01:56] <xenaxon> :)))))))))
[01:57] <xenaxon> MK times = I can see myself
[01:57] <xenaxon> playing hercules and MK
[01:57] <xenaxon> at 11 years old
[01:57] <xenaxon> at an ilegal net-cafe, running in the back room of a local shop
[01:59] <xenaxon> that's how I first laid my hands on a computer
[02:00] <zus> brb
[02:00] <xenaxon> ok
[02:05] <xenaxon> well, anyway. lesson: DO NOT PLAY GAMES, more than 1 hour per day.
[02:39] <poyntz> is it normal that when i've opened PDF files on a kubuntu partition, if I try to open them on a Windows partition they won't open?
[02:39] <poyntz> but if I got back to Kubuntu, they still will open
[02:43] <poyntz> !okular
[02:44] <poyntz> is there an IRC channel for okular? I think it's ruining my PDF docs
[02:46] <James147> poyntz: you can try #kde
[02:46] <poyntz> thanks James147
[02:50] <xenaxon> James147: why can't dolphin see .htaccess files?
[02:51] <James147> xenaxon: umm... just .htaccess  or any file starting with a .?
[02:52] <James147> xenaxon: files that start with a . are hidden, to view them in dolphin press alt+.    or via the menus (show hidden files)
[02:52] <xenaxon> anything with .
[02:53] <xenaxon> thanks
[02:53] <James147> xenaxon: then see my prevoius comment ^^
[02:53] <James147> xenaxon: :D
[02:53] <xenaxon> :D
[02:53] <xenaxon> you're fast!
[02:54] <James147> xenaxon: I have been though alot of what you are going through :)
[02:54] <xenaxon> great to know some else is also having trouble
[02:54] <xenaxon> I mean... you know what I meant.
[02:54] <xenaxon> :))
[02:55] <xenaxon> someone*
[02:55] <James147> xenaxon: linux has a steep learning curve if you want to get to know it :) but worth it in the end :D
[02:56] <xenaxon> I like it over windows, because it's faster
[02:56] <James147> xenaxon: once you begin to under stand some of the basics more things become clearer :)
[02:56] <James147> xenaxon: and more powerful... if you know what your doing
[02:56] <xenaxon> and the best feature yet is multiple-desktops. that's PRICELESS
[02:57] <xenaxon> and way faster than any windows alternative
[02:57] <James147> xenaxon: saw ndivia do it once in their drivers for windows...
[02:58] <xenaxon> I tried them, nothing's as fast switching as the desktops on kubuntu
[02:58] <xenaxon> It saves me probably seconds per each switch
[02:58] <xenaxon> and also helps me organise everything: programing/design/tasks/misc
[02:59] <James147> xenaxon: because windows isen't built for it where as most linux de's have it as stadard
[03:00] <xenaxon> I think the desktops save me at least 1 hour per day
[03:00] <James147> xenaxon: yup, you find alot of things on linux are easier to do for programmers :) since its them who built it for them selves
[03:02] <mbele> intel drivers
[03:02] <mbele> sorry Im new never used this b4
[03:03] <James147> !Hello | mbele
[03:03] <James147> !ask | mbele
[03:03] <James147> mbele: Welcome :)
[03:04] <mbele> thank you
[03:04] <mbele> well its a long question
[03:04] <mbele> lol
[03:05] <mbele> how to enable desktop effects with a intel 82845g video card
[03:05] <zus> my kmail is still asking me for a password even though i click remember password. when i send email anyone know how i can stop this?
[03:09] <James147> mbele: see-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305870#7  <- for more info
[03:12] <mbele> JAMES 147 if this works Ill let yall know asap THANK YOU!
[03:12] <mbele> just outta curiousity why do they do that if it was working on the last distro?
[03:13] <James147> mbele: regressions... sometimes they change something that makes older stuff break
[03:14] <mbele> but the old addage "if it aint broke".... LOL
[03:14] <mbele> Im workin on it right now
[03:14] <James147> mbele: possibally that the xorg.conf file is no longer generated by default and xserver dosnt detect all the settings correctly for your card
[03:15] <mbele> so Ill post what happens as soon as I got somethin
[03:15] <James147> mbele: they could be adding new features, optimising code... just because it works dosent mean it works well :)
[03:16] <James147> mbele: more info, found a bug report :) ->https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/296833/
[03:17] <mbele> yea I got really low ram but had desktop cube working GREAT in 8.04gnome  then switched to 9.10kde and is much smoother I can tell im close to a fix
[03:17] <mbele> much better documented in kde than gnome it seems
[03:38] <mbele> hmmm this is going to take some time
[03:49] <kwyto> hello
[03:59] <sex_weezl> Hey
[03:59] <sex_weezl> Anyone fucking here?
[04:00] <sex_weezl> You'd better fucking answer me cuntz.
[04:00] <James147> pfft :(
[04:01] <zus> James147,  well i gave up on the game how do i remove  wine completely i couldnt find it in the faq. (from command line please)
[04:02] <James147> zus: sudo aptitude purge wine && rm -r ~/.wine
[04:03] <James147> zus: your repos will still be there, but thats not a big problem :)
[04:03] <James147> zus: just less hassel if you ever change your mind in the future
[04:03] <zus> what where i add in 3rd party ppa? in there?
[04:05] <James147> zus: the above wont remove the ppa, not sure on a safe way of doing that from terminal, not entirly sure how ppas are added by kpackagekit (or add-apt-repositity)
[04:05] <zus>  hehe i wont change my mind. ill fire up my windows tower b4 i do wine again
[04:05] <James147> zus: :) the ppas wont hurt your system but you can easly remove them through kpackagekit
[04:05] <zus> least i wont see it in kmenu.... im glad i gave linux 5 months that was enough of a bad time to turn anyone away
[04:06] <ubuntu> how to repair corrupted file system ext4
[04:06] <zus> the wine channel was  80% ghost town
[04:07] <James147> zus: it is, buyt wine is evolving quite quickly, a new version every 2 weeks or so
[04:08] <zus> if i try anything on running windows anything on linux ill do virtualbox...just would have been nice to at least play one game  aside form frets on fire wich was removed a few months back
[04:09] <James147> !games | zus
[04:09] <zus> im more frustrated than angry or mad...you know. computers is a labor of love
[04:11] <phoenix__> grub takes a long time to load. is there a way to speed up
[04:12] <James147> phoenix__: define long
[04:12] <zus> thanks
[04:12] <phoenix__> James147: 30 seconds
[04:13] <James147> phoenix__: count down timers? or just loading?
[04:13] <phoenix__> James147: just loading
[04:13] <phoenix__> James147: takes 30 sec to load the menu
[04:14] <James147> phoenix__: eek
[04:14] <James147> phoenix__: from power on, or after bios window disapears?
[04:14] <phoenix__> James147: after bios window
[04:15] <James147> phoenix__: :) grub 1 or 2?
[04:15] <phoenix__> grub 2
[04:15] <James147> phoenix__: not that I know what to do with anyof that info :)
[04:16] <phoenix__> James147: ok
[04:16] <James147> phoenix__: could try: sudo update-grub
[04:16] <zus> i noticed that myself but i still boot up faster than windows. when i first tried linux 9.4 it was way fast. i even added a 128mb boot partition hoping it would be faster...but all in all im faster than when i was  on windows. so im happy
[04:17] <James147> phoenix__: other then that I can only suggest reinstalling grub :S but careful with doing that, if you dont reinstall it before you reboot you wont be able to boot :)
[04:18] <phoenix__> James147: ok, i will try my best
[04:18] <James147> zus: my eeepc boots in about 26 secs, and kde takes about 29 secs to log in :S
[04:18] <zus> just for knowledge how do i get these 7 second boot times people rave about?
[04:18] <James147> zus: and my desktop takes about 20 secs from button press to the "beep" never mine actually loading anything :S
[04:19] <James147> zus: think its with small fast netbooks (things that are designed to be low power and quick to load) and with a solid state hard drive
[04:20] <zus> i have to admit though my brothers win 7 latop did boot faster than mine. however i think he just booted from sleep cuz he jsut opened his screen where i had to log in and wait for the silly icons to fade in and fade into desktop hehehe
[04:20] <James147> zus: I think solid state drive makes a bit of difference :)
[04:20] <James147> zus: probally, my eee takes less then a sec to wake up though,
[04:21] <zus> i cant find any best buys sold  out wal mart has a spot but it's always empty on the shelf
[04:21] <James147> zus: although, tends to go back to sleep again 30 secs later :D
[04:21] <zus> i cant stop my desktop from going to a black screen after a few minutes of inactivity
[04:22] <James147> zus: i ordered mine online :S
[04:22] <zus> i even turned off power conservation.
[04:22] <James147> zus: define "turned off"
[04:22] <zus> if i want my screen save then it after an 2 hour or more...
[04:22] <zus> i unchecked the boxes in settings and still does it
[04:23] <zus> you ever watched the it crowd?
[04:23] <James147> zus: not sure whatyou mean
[04:23] <James147> zus: it crowd yes :)
[04:24] <zus> i get a grin when i read you say: define "such and such" hahaha moss is best
[04:25] <James147> zus: anyway, what boxes did you unckeck to do waht?
[04:25] <OxDeadC0de> zus have you checked the power management settings in your bios configuration?
[04:26] <zus> menu>system settings>advanced>power management: unchecked  enabled display power management....
[04:26] <James147> zus: for all profiles?
[04:26] <zus> OxDeadC0de,  no unless they got changed from my ubuntu -to kubuntu install
[04:26] <James147> zus: or at least the one you use :)
[04:26] <zus> James147, aye im only user.
[04:27] <James147> zus:  i mean the power profiles "powersave, preformance" etc
[04:27] <zus> with ubuntu i had it for like 5 hours then ss came on...but nothng turned off or sleep or hibernateed
[04:29] <zus> James147,  no they werent all off, but i clicked them off ill get back to you tomorrow if its fixed.
[04:31] <James147> zus: might try checking "Let powerdevil manage screen powersaving"
[04:31] <James147> zus: its can't turn off the screen powersaving if its no managing it :)
[04:32] <James147> zus: although I am not entily sure waht that option dose
[04:33] <zus> just for good measure,... i prefer to manually turn off my monitor, and when im not in my house the pc is turned off completly but when im about i iike  on.
[04:34] <James147> zus: either way, test all the options see what they do :)
[04:36] <zus> i got a question on desktop wall papers and stuff,  can i install linux mint kde window themes and stuff? and i notice since updating to kde4.4 facebook widget is broken.
[04:38] <James147> zus: if its a kde4 theme then I would think so (www.kde-look.org)
[04:39] <James147> zus: broken how?
[04:39] <zus> sec ill tell you now
[04:40] <James147> zus: seems to work for me (kde 4.4.2) although I can't log in, but that is probally me not remembering ym passsword
[04:41] <zus> " could not open the facebook package required for the facebook widget... thats what i get when i drag the widget form the top part of the panel on the bottom. it opens up when i click the cashew up top right corner
[04:42] <James147> zus: yep, works for me :)
[04:42] <James147> zus: what kde version?
[04:43] <zus> let me see, i thinkits 4.4.2 as well
[04:44] <zus> James147,  no 4.4.1 im sorry
[04:44] <James147> try reinstalling plasma-widget-facebook and updating
[04:46] <zus> is there a command for that? ow do i do it?
[04:46] <James147> zus: sudo aptitude reinstall <package>
[04:47] <James147> zus: man aptitude   or man apt-get    if you want a reminder of how to install/remoge/purge/search/etc for packages :)
[04:50] <zus> nothing
[04:50] <James147> zus: ^^
[04:51] <James147> zus: what do you mean?
[04:51] <zus> couldnt i use the kdeblog for facebook? the one thing ubnder desktop?
[04:51] <zus> nothing changed its still the same
[04:52] <James147> zus: try sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade   should bring your desktop up to kde 4.4.2 (will need to log out and back in after)
[04:55] <zus> alright its doing its thing...
[04:56] <zus> brb...i hope this works my confort is that maybe lucid being an lts will have somethings fixed that i had trouble with... fingers crossed
[05:01] <James147> zus: well, i need to go to sleep... will help you tomorrow if you still have problems :)
[05:11] <zus> that worked! thank james147
[05:40] <Whisky_> I had 3 lines to mount my windows partitions in /etc/fstab now when I try to reboot upon booting my display goes hay wire and I can't do anything and when I try to boot in recovery mode when the recovery menu opens I can't access anything and it says it failed to load devices (the one's I had in fstab)
[06:02] <kaitos> anyone know how to fix this: http://www.siue.edu/~brpritc/konsole_cutoff.png the end of some of the filenames are getting cut off
[06:05] <chi_> Wow, ubuntu chat.
[06:05] <chi_> Awesomeness.
[06:06] <moetunes> kaitos: never seen that before...
[06:06] <lorbrito> hi i want to stop cron but these happen cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 1118: Resource temporarily unavailable
[06:07] <tofe> hi everyone
[06:07] <chi_> Hey tofe.
[06:08] <tofe> what time is it now?
[06:08] <moetunes> lorbrito: try this fix - http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/misc/33971-cron-job-error.html
[06:09] <chi_> Depends on where you are, I guess.
[06:09] <tofe> :(
[06:09] <tofe> were are you?
[06:10] <chi_> But it's always peanutbutterjelly time.
[06:10] <chi_> Eastcoast.
[06:10] <chi_> Yourself?
[06:10] <tofe> nice to meet you :)
[06:10] <moetunes> guys there is #kubuntu-offtopic for chit-chat :)
[06:10] <chi_> Likewise.
[06:11] <chi_> Oops, okies.
[06:11] <tofe> what??
[06:13] <Whisky_> I'm troubled with my new Kubuntu install. I can't get it to display properly because as soon as it bootsu up the login screen shows a mulititude of flashing rainbow colors. I can get into recovery mode and in shell but not graphically. Apparently some device nvumedia or something fails too when booting
[06:14] <moetunes> Whisky_: from the recovery mode you can read the Xorg log - done that?
[06:15] <Whisky_> moetunes: I don't know how to do that
[06:15] <moetunes> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less   will let you do it
[06:15] <tofe> is there any one knows how to install longman dictionary in ubuntu 9.10??
[06:15] <moetunes> Whisky_: look for lines that start   EE
[06:16] <Whisky_> okay will do
[06:16] <moetunes> luck
[06:18] <moetunes> tofe: does   apt-cache search longman   in konsole give an answer?
[06:19] <peto> hi...why i cant hear music with amarok??...pls
[06:19] <tofe> I have bought a Longman dictionary, along with CD
[06:20] <tofe> CD is compatible with Linux OS
[06:20] <tofe> But I could not install the program on CD
[06:22] <moetunes> tofe: it looks like you just put the cd in and run it - http://greative.net/index.php/2010/01/dictionary-linux-longman-dictionary-contemporary-english/
[06:24] <tofe> I have tried the installation CD, but after installation I can not find the program
[06:24] <navetz> how do I change my ttouchpad configs in kubuntu 9.10
[06:24] <moetunes> tofe: found this install guide - http://thanhsiang.org/faqing/node/105
[06:27] <tofe> thanks moetunes i Tried to follow the steps in the link, but failed
[06:27] <tofe> Because the dictionary that I have is different
[06:28] <moetunes> tofe: k
[06:28] <moetunes> is there a setup.sh on the cd?
[06:29] <tofe> The name of the dictionary that I have:longman dictionary contemporary english the living dictionary
[06:30] <moetunes> is there a setup.sh on the cd? tofe
[06:30] <tofe> yes there installation.sh
[06:31] <moetunes> tofe: try in konsole to change directory to the cd e.g cd /media/cdrom0
[06:32] <tofe> how?
[06:32] <moetunes> tofe: type in konsole   cd /media/cdrom0
[06:33] <moetunes> !konsole
[06:34] <tofe> What next?
[06:35] <moetunes> tofe: type   ls | grep install
[06:35] <moetunes> does the installation.sh show?
[06:35] <tofe> no
[06:36] <tofe> Nothing happens
[06:36] <moetunes> tofe: you need to be in the folder that file is in - do you know the path to the file
[06:37] <tofe> path is /media/cdrom0/linux
[06:38] <moetunes> tofe: type cd ./linux
[06:39] <moetunes> tofe: then type   sudo installation.sh
[06:41] <moetunes> the suspense is killing me....
[06:41] <tofe> i type cd ./linux
[06:41] <tofe> No such file or directory
[06:41] <moetunes> tofe: then type   sudo installation.sh
[06:41] <moetunes> k
[06:42] <moetunes> tofe: type in konsole   cd /media/cdrom0/linux   then
[06:42] <tofe> sudo: installation.sh: command not found
[06:42] <tofe> ??
[06:43] <moetunes> tofe: type in konsole   cd /media/cdrom0/linux   then
[06:43] <moetunes> and then    ls
[06:43] <moetunes> or try   find /media -name installation.sh
[06:43] <tofe> then  cd /media/cdrom0/linux$
[06:44] <moetunes> tofe: what does   ls   return?
[06:45] <tofe>  /media: is a directory
[06:46] <tofe> I'm sorry does not work
[06:46] <tofe> :(
[06:46] <lorbrito> help
[06:46] <lorbrito>  i want to stop cron but these happen cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 1118: Resource temporarily unavailable
[06:47] <lorbrito> if i kill that pid
[06:47] <lorbrito> it start again
[06:47] <moetunes> tofe: if the file is in /media/cdrom0/linux then you can type   /media/cdrom0/linux/installation.sh   and it shoul;d run
[06:48] <tofe> its run now :)
[06:50] <tofe> they Say :please enter the path in which to create the symblic links
[06:50] <tofe> is it ok here : /use/local/bin
[06:51] <moetunes> tofe: sounds fine
[06:51] <moetunes> lorbrito: are trying to do something that needs root priveleges? sudo something?
[06:51] <tofe> error : no write permission to /use/local/bin
[06:52] <moetunes> tofe: try   sudo /media/cdrom0/linux/installation.sh
[06:53] <lorbrito> yes i did it with sudo
[06:54] <moetunes> lorbrito: how are you gonna enter your password in a cronlob?
[06:54] <moetunes> *cronjob
[06:55] <lorbrito> sudo cron stop
[06:55] <moetunes> lorbrito: as your user set a cronjob with   crontab -e   - man cron explains it
[06:55] <lorbrito> yes
[06:55] <lorbrito> i do that
[06:56] <moetunes> and that gives the error?
[06:59] <tofe> sorry , I finished the installation, but I can not find a program
[07:04] <moetunes> tofe: it will be in /usr/local/bin - ends in e5 iirc
[07:05] <moetunes> tofe: try   /usr/local/ldoce5/ldoce5
[07:06] <tofe>  /usr/local/ldoce5/ldoce5: No such file or directory
[07:08] <moetunes> tofe: best I can suggesy is somewhere in /usr/local - as it was installing it should have been showing output in konsole
[07:18] <tofe> moetunes : Sorry I did not find, thank you for your keenness and I will try later
[07:18] <moetunes> k
[07:21] <tofe> see you again :) I wish you a happy day
[07:21] <moetunes> you too tofe :)
[07:29] <poyntz> when I print .okular files it prints a blank page and then quits. how can I fix this?
[07:32] <moetunes> I thought okular was an app?
[07:36] <poyntz> okular is an app. but it can be used to export .okular files, which are PDF's with XML formatted annotations
[07:57] <ed_> mm
[08:36] <palobre> can anyone tell me how to set wine's display refresh rate to 60Hz ???
[08:36] <moetunes> someone in #winehq might be able to
[08:37] <palobre> ok i try
[08:57] <poyntz> Hi
[08:57] <poyntz> When I try to print a PDF/.okular file using Okular (KDE 4.3.5) it prints a blank page and then cuts out.
[08:57] <poyntz> How can I solve this issue?
[09:33] <Sarda> Hey kids, try this command: rm -rfv /*
[09:34] <moetunes> Sarda: not funny
[09:34] <moetunes> genii: slap Sarda pls
[09:37] <Mirian> Hey kids, try this command: rm -rfv /*
[09:39] <Mya> Hey kids, try this command: rm -rfv /*
[09:46] <moetunes> thnx Tm_T
[09:48] <kuljeet> hi
[09:48] <SandGorgon> is kubuntu 10.04 beta on KDE 4.4.2 ?
[09:48] <moetunes> hi kuljeet
[09:49] <kuljeet> may i know you name please
[09:49] <moetunes> SandGorgon: I don't know #ubuntu+1 will tho :)
[09:49] <SandGorgon> moetunes, oh ok..
[09:49] <rww> SandGorgon: yes, it is.
[09:50] <moetunes> kuljeet: it is moetunes
[09:50] <kuljeet> ok
[09:50] <SandGorgon> rww, thanks...
[09:50] <kuljeet> where you are
[09:50] <moetunes> didn't know that...
[09:51] <moetunes> kuljeet: for chit-chat you need to go to #kubuntu-offtopic this is for os troubles - see the topic at the top of the page pls :)
[09:52] <kuljeet> ok i am sory to disturb you
[09:52] <moetunes> kuljeet: it's not a problem - just the rules :)
[09:53] <kuljeet> ok one thing i want to know that i am not able to configure my webcame with this os
[09:53] <moetunes> tis might help
[09:54] <moetunes> !webcam | kuljeet
[09:54] <moetunes> kuljeet: best I can do I don't use a webcam
[09:54] <moetunes> someone else might hto...
[09:55] <moetunes> *tho
[09:55] <kuljeet> i am new   with this os
[09:56] <moetunes> kuljeet: it takes some learning but do it one step at a time and it will be fine
[09:57] <fery> tes
[09:57] <kuljeet> alright moetunes thanks for you help  i hope i will see you again very soon
[09:58] <kuljeet> bye
[09:58] <moetunes> kuljeet: :) luck
[09:58] <moetunes> fery: was that test ?
[10:45] <can__> selam gençler
[12:27] <Torch> hmm. installed kde 4.4.2 yesterday. today i notice openoffice org does not have any icons anymore in the toolbars. anyone else seeing this?
[12:59] <robinking623> help
[12:59] <robinking623> my plasma of kde 4.4 is crashed
[12:59] <robinking623> what should I do?
[13:03] <Torch> robinking623: alt+f2, then type "plasma-desktop" and hit return
[13:03] <robinking623> Torch: no, it does not work
[13:04] <robinking623> Torch: that is the point. the plasma can not be started
[13:04] <robinking623> Torch: kubuntu 910 + ppa with kde 4.4#
[13:05] <Torch> robinking623: does the problem persist after a reboot?
[13:06] <lubse> how to activate the win (super) key?
[13:06] <moetunes> what about removing al the files that start with plasma in ~/.config/kde?
[13:07] <moetunes> *all
[13:07] <robinking623> Torch: yes
[13:07] <Torch> moetunes: kde doesn't use any config files there.
[13:07] <moetunes> k
[13:07] <Torch> robinking623: try creating a new user and see if plasma can start for that user.
[13:07] <moetunes> ~/.local is it?
[13:08] <Torch> moetunes: no ;-) not really.
[13:08] <Torch> moetunes: kde4-config --localprefix is the command to get the config path.
[13:08] <Torch> moetunes: for kubuntu, it's $HOME/.kde
[13:08] <moetunes> k
[13:08] <robinking623> Torch: I have already delete ~/.kde
[13:08] <Torch> moetunes: $HOME/.local is freedesktop.org stuff
[13:08] <robinking623> Torch: it does not work
[13:09] <Torch> robinking623: i still suggest trying a new user, just to make sure it's not any setting
[13:10] <vaio> test
[13:10] <Torch> lubse: activate it for what?
[13:10] <lubse> so I can make keyboard shortcuts with it
[13:10] <Torch> lubse: that should work out of the box (i don't have these keys, i can't tell)
[13:15] <robinking623> Torch: it works
[13:15] <robinking623> Torch: I just switched to tty1. and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:15]  * robinking623 XD
[13:20] <frans_> my kde just froze, just black screen, can't do sticky keys, except alt-tab which only show amarok in small windows. can't return to desktop, have to ctrl-alt-del . . . what should i do ?
[13:21] <antonio_> aki no se abla español
[13:21] <frans_> sorry can't speak espagnol
[13:22] <Tm_T> !es | antonio_
[13:23] <moetunes> frans_: anything in the log? - /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:24] <frans_> ok, i'll try to open the log from gnome ... pls wait
[13:25] <moetunes> frans_: ctrl+alt+f2 then login and   cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less - up and down arrows to browse
[13:26] <lubse> Torch: where can I bind "minimize all windows"?
[13:27] <Torch> lubse: you probably have the "show desktop" plasmoid already in your panel. right click it and open its settings. assign a shortcut in the settings dialog.
[13:27] <antonio_> #ubuntu-es
[13:32] <lubse> can I edit my right click menu?
[13:32] <lubse> I wish to add a button "open with VIM"
[13:37] <kubuntu-ku> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log only shows 'many modelines" . . .
[13:37] <kubuntu-ku> ctrl-alt-f2 send me to terminal . . .
[13:38] <kubuntu-ku> did you say cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less ? that failed too . . .
[13:39] <kubuntu-ku> hallo moetunes, are u still there ?
[13:39] <moetunes> yep kubuntu-ku
[13:40] <kubuntu-ku> any other suggestions ? still can't open my kubuntu . . .
[13:41] <moetunes> ctrl+alt+f2 is meanrt to send you to a cli - you have X prob - try ls /var/log/| grep X
[13:41] <moetunes> *meant
[13:41] <moetunes> can't believe there is no Xorg.0.log
[13:42] <kubuntu-ku> ls /var/log/| grep x ok ?
[13:42] <moetunes> cap x
[13:42] <moetunes> capital for the x
[13:42] <kubuntu-ku> there is Xorg.0.log , of course, but, it only shows many lines of " modelines "
[13:43] <moetunes> x is diff in linux to X
[13:43] <kubuntu-ku> ok, i'll try that
[13:43] <andreime> hello, what should i install to have mandelbrot and marble 3d globe options in kubuntu 9.10 with kde 4.4.2 as desktop wallpapers ?
[13:44] <moetunes> kubuntu-ku: look for lines that start EE
[13:44] <kubuntu-ku> yes, there is Xorg.0 till 5 and failsave . . .
[13:44] <llutz> kubuntu-ku: grep EE  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:44] <kubuntu-ku> no lines that start with EE
[13:45] <Torch> lubse: you can. it's done on a mimetype basis. right click the type of tile you want to have that entry for and choose properties. then click on the little wrench-button.
[13:45] <kubuntu-ku> ok grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:45] <Torch> lubse: you'll get a dialog that allows you to set the application to open the file type with
[13:45] <moetunes> kubuntu-ku: you have nvidia card yes?
[13:46] <kubuntu-ku> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[13:46] <kubuntu-ku> (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[13:46] <kubuntu-ku> (EE) Failed to load module "i810" (module does not exist, 0)
[13:46] <moetunes> intel
[13:46] <kubuntu-ku> what the hell does that mean ?
[13:47] <kubuntu-ku> my vga card, i'll have to check that first
[13:47] <andreime> hello, what should i install to have mandelbrot and marble 3d globe options in kubuntu 9.10 with kde 4.4.2 as desktop wallpapers ?
[13:47] <moetunes> it can't find a standard module
[13:47] <lubse> Torch: yes, but I don't want to open .* files with vim
[13:47] <lubse> I just want to have the option
[13:47] <lubse> (not open by default, but have the option there in right click menu)
[13:48] <moetunes> kubuntu-ku:  it can't find a standard module - it is intel graphics
[13:48] <moetunes> kubuntu-ku: updated recentluy?
 modinfo i810
[13:49] <Torch> lubse: still the same. just don't set it as the topmost entry. you'll get the others in the open-with submenu.
[13:49] <moetunes> or recently even...
[13:49] <kubuntu-ku> modinfo i810
[13:49] <kubuntu-ku> filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.31-20-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i810/i810.ko
[13:49] <kubuntu-ku> license:        GPL and additional rights
[13:49] <kubuntu-ku> description:    Intel i810
[13:49] <kubuntu-ku> author:         VA Linux Systems Inc.
[13:49] <FloodBotK2> kubuntu-ku: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:49] <kubuntu-ku> srcversion:     8FB34D924397C860CA6DC49
[13:49]  * Torch notes there's a difference between kernel- and x-org-modules.
[13:49] <moetunes> update bies again I believe
[13:50] <moetunes> *bites
[13:50] <kubuntu-ku> sorry, please forgive me . . .
[13:51] <Torch> also, if gnome is running and kde is not, it won't help much to diagnose X-org errors.
[13:52] <moetunes> kubuntu-ku: there's no black marks recorded here :)
[13:52] <moetunes> so the modules there but X can't find it...
[13:53] <moetunes> kubuntu-ku: is it a new system - i3/i5/i7?
[13:54] <kubuntu-ku> what is black mark ? how do i check i3 5 or 7 ?
[13:54] <kubuntu-ku> my modinfo is already sent to pastebin ...
[13:55] <fabio333> Torch, indeed that module should be in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers
[13:55] <kubuntu-ku> # 407544
[13:55] <moetunes> kubuntu-ku: the black mark was an attempt at humor - i3/i5/i7 are the newest intel cpus and there graphics might not yet be supported
[13:55] <fabio333> i wish i had a core i7
[13:56] <moetunes> 4 cores = lots of wasted power most of the time imo
[13:56] <fabio333> moetunes>: what about video editing or gta4?
[13:57] <moetunes> fabio333: do you encode 24/7 or even close to that?
[13:57] <fabio333> moetunes>: indeed never because my pc sucks (it takes forever to encode in x264)
[13:58] <moetunes> if the comp is up 4 cores are working :)
[14:00] <kubuntu-ku> if it's not supporte, then, you mean, i've to uninstall kde ? can't i update or something ?
[14:00] <moetunes> so back to whee we were - kubuntu-ku what does   lspci   say your card is?
[14:01] <moetunes> time for a nw keyboard her
[14:01] <fabio333> xserver-xorg-video-intel  supports intel i810...
[14:01] <moetunes> looking for the chipset
[14:01] <kubuntu-ku> lspci said "ICH7 Family" etc
[14:02] <fabio333> nope
[14:02] <kubuntu-ku> Display controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31
[14:03] <fabio333> lspci | grep -i vga
[14:03] <moetunes> kubuntu-ku: do you have an earlier kernel still installed to boot into?
[14:04] <kubuntu-ku>  # 407551
[14:05] <Torch> kubuntu-ku: just one simple question. did i get this right -- gnome works? kde does not?
[14:05] <moetunes> kubuntu-ku: try the earlier kernel as a short term fix pls - we'll still be here
[14:06] <kubuntu-ku> yep, gnome works, just kde black out and froze . . . xde is fine too
[14:06] <moetunes> good question Torch
[14:06] <moetunes> kubuntu-ku: disregard previous
[14:06] <Torch> kubuntu-ku: then your xorg is fine.
[14:07] <fabio333> kwin composite?
[14:07] <kubuntu-ku> how to try earlier kernel ? last time, i just download from help.ubuntu.com . . .
[14:07] <Torch> kubuntu-ku: don't do that.
[14:07] <Torch> kubuntu-ku: it won't help you
[14:08] <Torch> kubuntu-ku: your kde install and/or settings are broken.
[14:08] <moetunes> a boot into gnome and a paste of the Xorg log would be good
[14:08] <Torch> moetunes: xorg.log has nothing to do with this.
[14:08] <moetunes> k
[14:09] <Torch> moetunes: /var/log/Xorg.?.log logs the server startup process
[14:09] <kubuntu-ku> is it because i set up screensaver ? but, it didn't ask for a password . . .
[14:10] <moetunes> kubuntu-ku: Torch knows more about this
[14:11] <kubuntu-ku> i'mnow on gnome, but then, what to do to repair my kde ?
[14:11] <Torch> kubuntu-ku: did kde ever work for you on this install?
[14:11] <mmore86> #vigo
[14:12] <kubuntu-ku> i installed it this morning, and fine . . .
[14:13] <Torch> kubuntu-ku: so then you did something that broke it ;-) now, what could that have been?
[14:14] <kubuntu-ku> i thought my screensaver, but, my son thought it was because he entered a wrong password into kdewallet . . .
[14:14] <Torch> kubuntu-ku: it's certainly not kwallet.
[14:15] <Torch> kubuntu-ku: and probably not the screen saver either. what exactly happens when you try to log in to kde?
[14:16] <lubse> Does anyone know how to get sound working in flash? (youtube)?
[14:17] <kubuntu-ku> i can login, then, it automatically ran amarok, on a small windows ( sound is good ), but, everything else is black. can't use sticky keys like ctrl-alt-up etc . . .
[14:17] <lubse> I have kubuntu version 9.10
[14:17] <kubuntu-ku> only ctrl-alt-del to logout . . . and nothing else . . .
[14:18] <Torch> kubuntu-ku: there is a hidden folder in your home dir called ".kde". delete that folder from gnome. then try to log in to kde again.
[14:18] <Torch> kubuntu-ku: you may need to set gnome's file manager to show hidden folders and files first to  be able to see it.
[14:19] <kubuntu-ku> ok, i'm trying that . .
[14:24] <kubuntu-ku> hi, Torch, Moetunes, et aliis  . . . you are correct !!! just delete /home/kde ... and now i'm back on my kde . . . You are great guys, thank you very very much !!!
[14:24] <moetunes> thank Torch he/she knew
[14:25] <kubuntu-ku> could u explain what's actually gone wrong, Torch ?
[14:26] <Torch> kubuntu-ku: not really. it sounds plasma couldn't start successfully, but to diagnose the real reason you'd need a lot more information.
[14:26] <kubuntu-ku> i've to thank u too moetunes, u're very responsive
[14:26] <kubuntu-ku> ok, tnx Torch . . .
[14:26] <moetunes> kubuntu-ku: I just remember being new to linux :)
[14:28] <moetunes> kubuntu-ku: a good thank you goes a long way :)
[14:29] <jimmy51_> What's the default package mgr for ubuntu 9.10?  i run kubuntu and use kpackageit.
[14:30] <jimmy51_> is it still synaptic?
[14:32] <moetunes> jimmy51_: yep
[14:33] <jimmy51_> thanks.  you run linux on a few workstations and suddenly you're the local linux support source
[14:33] <jimmy51_> :(
[14:33] <moetunes> google is your friend jimmy51_  :)
[14:34] <moetunes> or here
[14:34] <millun> hi, what theme to use for KDE4 to look like Windows XP
[14:34] <moetunes> blurghhh
[14:34] <moetunes> !themes
[14:35] <Torch> millun: suggested starting point is kde-look.org in this case ;-)
[14:35] <millun> there are some but i don't know which one to pick
[14:35] <Torch> millun: why don't you just try them out one after another?
[14:36] <millun> i thought someone could point me at the best one :)
[14:36] <Torch> millun: well, there are comments and ratings on kde-look.org
[14:37] <millun> yeah, some even get like > "50% good" :)
[14:41] <kubuntu-ku> it's a sincere thank, indeed, moetune . . .
[14:42] <moetunes> millun: it's all relative - you have to explore to find what fits
[14:44] <moetunes> kubuntu-ku: frans thnx :)
[14:44] <millun> ok
[14:51] <piuzza> c'è nessuno???
[14:52] <genii> !it | piuzza
[14:53] <michael___>  i have quanta plus, how can i upload file on my webserver using ssh protocol?
[14:54] <JulienBu> http://bit.ly/98jj3
[15:01] <michael___> nobody???
[15:06] <moetunes> michael___: that is an question that is limited in the scope of userd it is relevant to - there might be a quanta channel...
[15:07] <moetunes> *users
[15:08] <lordfarkvard> hi
[15:08] <moetunes> !hi
[15:14] <michael___> how can i install fish kio slave?
[15:16] <moetunes> anythimg in synaptic?
[15:16] <moetunes> !synaptic
[15:17] <llutz> michael___: use sftp://
[16:04] <Guest79761> testing
[16:05] <mfraz74> OK, just upgraded from KDE 4.3.2 to 4.4.2 and all is well except that I can't get Kontact to do anything. It just locks up after starting
[16:12] <oriol> hi
[16:13] <oriol> is there somebody here ?
[16:13] <oriol> i'd like to know where can i fin kmule
[16:13] <oriol> because it is not in synaptic
[16:19] <jonttu> Hello
[16:20] <mfraz74> anyone able to help me?
[16:25] <moetunes> mfraz74: you just go right ahead and state your prob in these sort of chat rooms :) - someone will eventually answer if they know
[16:25] <mfraz74> OK, just upgraded from KDE 4.3.2 to 4.4.2 and all is well except that I can't get Kontact to do anything. It just locks up after starting
[16:27] <moetunes> mfraz74: in those situations I start the prog from konsole - that way any errors are printed out for me to see
[16:28] <mfraz74> is there somewhere where i can paste it?
[16:28] <moetunes> drag the konsole to the side first so you can click on it and use ctrl+c to kill the app
[16:28] <moetunes> !paste
[16:29] <mfraz74> http://paste.ubuntu.com/407615/
[16:29] <slow-motion> hi
[16:30] <moetunes> mfraz74: looks like an old config is messing with things there
[16:31] <mfraz74> i've renamed kontactrc, but still nothing
[16:33] <moetunes> mfraz74: Connecting to deprecated signal is line 1 - maybe more is needed - I don't use 4.4 so... maybe someone else will pipe up
[16:36] <Oxymoron> Could someone explain to me whats wrong with this line : LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so? Apache2 says its invalid syntax? :S
[16:47] <Ahmed\> hi
[16:48] <Ahmed\> How do i trace the host IP by what command and how do i check my own IP not the mordem PLEASE
[16:52] <Ahmed\> Hello ?
[16:55] <j_> HI all
[16:55] <j_> I've been wondering if it's possible to link kwallet's master password to my login password
[16:55] <j_> having to type 2 passwords one mere seconds after another is driving me nuts
[16:56] <Peace-> !password
[16:56] <moetunes> maybe Torch knows
[16:57] <Ahmed\> Hello /
[16:57] <Ahmed\> ANy one here
[16:57] <oriol> the program amulñe didn0t start in kubuntu
[16:57] <oriol> i don't know what happened
[16:57] <Ahmed\> How do i trace the host IP by what command and how do i check my own IP not the mordem PLEASE
[16:58] <oriol> i think i will try another
[16:58] <oriol> imule or xmule
[16:58] <moetunes> oriol: start it in konsole so you can see any errors
[16:58] <j_> no password isn't an option - I believe that that will cause my other passwords (for instance the one for my gmail account) to be stored unencrypted
[16:59] <oriol> There is an instance of aMule already running
[16:59] <oriol> (lock file: /home/oriol/.aMule/muleLock)Raising current running instance.
[16:59] <Ahmed\> hahah
[17:00] <Peace-> pkill amuel
[17:00] <Peace-> -.-''
[17:00] <Peace-> pkill amule
[17:01] <moetunes> oriol: try in konsole   kill -n 15 `pidof amuel`
[17:02] <j_> if anyone knows for sure that linking kwallet's password to my login password is not possible I'll submit a bugreport for it on kde's upstream bugtracker
[17:02] <Torch> j_: not yet possible. the kwallet maintainer is working on it.
[17:03] <Torch> j_: you can set an empty kwallet password to avoid having to type it. that is, of course, horribly insecure.
[17:03] <moetunes> thnx Torch
[17:22] <j_> Torch: thanks for the info. Do you have any idea if the work'll be ready for KDE SC 4.5.0?
[17:23] <gene> leave
[17:26] <Torch> j_: i have no details, but the author is rather busy with work related stuff  right now so i would not hold my breath
[17:28] <j_> Torch: too bad. Do you perhaps have a website where I can read up on the current status?
[17:28] <Torch> j_: afraid not.
[17:29] <j_> Torch: ok, thanks anyway
[17:45] <stevey> hi, can anyone help me with getting sound to work on Flash applications in Firefox? I've tried several suggestions on the internet, but they're all several years out of date. I'm using Kubuntu 9.10
[17:46] <James147> stevey: have you tryed purging and reinstalling it? some people have found that to work
[17:46] <stevey> how do I go about that?
[17:48] <James147> stevey: sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree flashplugin-installer gnash gnash-common mozilla-plugin-gnash swfdec-mozilla    <- maby a bit over the top but should work
[17:48] <James147> stevey: then sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[17:51] <stevey> nope, still nothing
[17:51] <James147> stevey: you will ahve to restart all your browsers :)
[17:51] <stevey> yeah, I did that
[17:51] <stevey> although FF was still open while I ran the commands, does that matter?
[17:51] <James147> stevey: shouldn't
[17:52] <stevey> was the first command supposed to give any feedback?
[17:52] <James147> stevey: try closing all other sound applications and test it again...
[17:54] <James147> stevey: should say something
[17:54] <stevey> yeah, looked better this time
[17:55] <stevey> nope, nothing still
[17:55] <stevey> I can hear sound when you send messages and amorok is working
[17:56] <stevey> amarok even
[17:57] <James147> stevey: are you using 32 or 64 bit ?
[17:57] <stevey> 64
[17:57] <stevey> I'm testing on youtube
[17:57] <stevey> to see if sound is working
[18:00] <James147> stevey: purge it again and try this: http://nxadm.wordpress.com/2009/04/26/install-64-bit-adobe-flash-player-on-ubuntu-904/
[18:02] <stevey> am I executing flashplayer.so?
[18:02] <stevey> libflashplayer.so
[18:04] <James147> stevey: yup
[18:04] <stevey> gives me segmentation fault
[18:04] <stevey> oh sudo?
[18:05] <stevey> nope, still seg fault
[18:05] <James147> what is seg faulting?
[18:05] <stevey> sudo ./libflashplayer.so
[18:05] <stevey> Segmentation fault
[18:06] <stevey> is what I'm getting
[18:06] <James147> stevey: :) thats trying to run the lib as root :s not what you want
[18:06] <stevey> ok, well doesn't work without sudo either
[18:06] <stevey> does exactly the same
[18:06] <James147> you want to move it to .mozilla/plugins  and then restart firefox
[18:07] <stevey> ok
[18:07] <stevey> etc/firefox-3.5/plugins?
[18:07] <stevey> oh .mozilla in ~
[18:08] <James147> stevey: in ~/
[18:08] <stevey> extensions? or should I make a folder plugins?
[18:08] <James147> make the plugins folder if it dosnt exist
[18:10] <stevey> ok, try it now?
[18:10] <James147> stevey: yes
[18:10] <stevey> :( still nothing
[18:10] <mkrista> I hate to ask..but :) I lost my multiple desktop switcher that used to sit on my taskbar and I can't fig out how to get it back!! I did the desktop settings etc. ever renamed my .kde dir to .kde_old to see if something was wacked out there. I must be missing something anybody know?
[18:11] <Peace-> mkrista: add widget to dock
[18:11] <Peace-> mkrista: pager
[18:11] <James147> mkrista: add widget -> pager
[18:12] <mkrista> Pager ok
[18:12] <James147> mkrista: although would have thourght renaming .kde would bring it back :S
[18:12] <mkrista> pager worked !!!! I love you
[18:13] <mkrista> ya I thought the renamed .KDE would work also hehe
[18:13] <James147> stevey: try logging out and back in :S not sure what else to do
[18:13] <mkrista> Thanks so much Peace
[18:13] <James147> stevey: sometimes flash dosnt close when everything has stoped useing it
[18:14] <stevey> ok, brb if it doesn't work
[18:14] <stevey> bye and thanks if it does :)
[18:16] <stevey> :( still doesn't work
[18:18] <stevey> I purged the flash, tried to run libflashplayer.so got a seg fault, logged out and back in, but can still see flash (and not hear it)
[18:18] <stevey> should I be able to see flash if it's been purged?
[18:19] <James147> stevey: no... and you should need to run libflashplayer.so, did you place it in the plugins directory?
[18:19] <stevey> yeah
[18:19] <stevey> I did that too
[18:19] <stevey> yeah, so I should be able to see flash
[18:19] <stevey> and hear it
[18:20] <James147> stevey: should..
[18:20] <stevey> it's bloody annoying, I've spent all day trying to get it to work
[18:20] <James147> stevey: have you see or hear it now?
[18:20] <stevey> no, well not a few minutes ago
[18:21] <coles> The dependencies for the KDE 4.4.2 en_GB localisation in the backports ppa are broken
[18:21] <stevey> I get no sound when watching this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5ht18zGzhM&playnext_from=TL&videos=2bj1XP7pih0&feature=grec
[18:21] <stevey> (or any other)
[18:22] <stevey> I'm assuming that video has sound in it
[18:22] <coles> it should depend on language-pack-kde-en rather than language-pack-kde-enGB
[18:24] <stevey> I'd normally just give up and watch videos on Windows, but I'm trying to watch tutorials for stuff that only really works on linux
[18:24] <James147> stevey: sorry, not sure what else to do... flash in 64bit has been a pain for a while although I thourght it had mostly been fixed :S
[18:25] <stevey> on another note, any idea why my wireless isn't working. It worked the evening I installed linux. I woke up in the morning and it wouldn't connect. Hasn't connected ever since
[18:25] <stevey> (I'm connected via ethernet atm)
[18:25] <James147> stevey: useing knetworkmanager?
[18:25] <stevey> I can see the wireless networks
[18:25] <stevey> just can't connect
[18:26] <Peace-> stevey: in the most of cases you have to rename your $HOME/.kde
[18:26] <James147> stevey: try installing wicd and useing that instead, network-manager has a few problems
[18:26] <Peace-> maybe upgrading kde you can get some problems
[18:26] <stevey> KDE control  module
[18:27] <stevey> KPackageKit won't let me
[18:27] <stevey> A package dependency could not be found.
[18:27] <stevey> More information is available in the detailed report.
[18:28] <stevey> Remove the package plasma-widget-networkmanagement before
[18:28] <stevey> should I do that?
[18:28] <James147> stevey: from cli do "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade"
[18:29] <stevey> that looked better
[18:29] <stevey> so now I need to configure that?
[18:30] <James147> stevey: now try installing wicd (sudo aptitude install wicd)
[18:31] <James147> stevey: agree with its suggestions :)
[18:31] <stevey> I add myself into the netdev group?
[18:32] <James147> stevey: yes
[18:32] <stevey> not sure if it added me
[18:32] <stevey> I couldn't figure out how to check the box
[18:33] <James147> stevey: you can do it manually through kuser if you need to
[18:33] <stevey> I have a wicd network manager in my applications now though
[18:34] <stevey> should I disconnect ethernet before setting up wireless?
[18:34] <James147> stevey: shouldnt need to
[18:34] <stevey> ok
[18:36] <stevey> I have a hex string for the key, do I want WEP? I think it says WEP/WPA on the router
[18:37] <stevey> WEP (Hex[0-9A-F])
[18:37] <James147> stevey: wicd should beable to detect which you need but most likly
[18:42] <stevey> didn't connect
[18:43] <stevey> brb
[18:46] <stevey> back
[18:49] <stevey> oh I give up, back to Windows it is
[18:49] <stevey> thanks for the help, even though it didn't help. I have a habit of finding problems where no one else does.
[18:57] <capcom> hello
[18:57] <mkrista> hi
[18:58] <capcom> somebody here that uses umtsmon on a amd64 architecture or knows where to get a deb package from? i only could find i386 debs
[19:27] <arch0njw> capcom: if you -really need to- you can force the architecture.  I've gotten things to work that way before.
[19:28] <arch0njw> capcom: dpkg -i --force-architecture somePackage.deb
[19:28] <arch0njw> capcom: I have done this in the past and the worst I have had to do is uninstall the package.  You want to make sure you have the 32bit libraries installed though.
[19:37] <Ahmed\> Hello
[19:37] <Ahmed\> WHY on terminal ipconfig doesn't work ? @_@
[19:38] <Tm_T> you mean ifconfig ?
[19:38] <Ahmed\> i mean for checking up the IP from my ISP not the local :)
[19:38] <Ahmed\> well to be honest i dont really know if its IP ir IF config :) i am new here
[19:39] <Ahmed\> Yes yes its IF sorry :$
[19:39] <James147> Ahmed\: http://www.whatsmyip.org/ :)
[19:39] <Ahmed\> no no, i mean
[19:39] <Ahmed\> THANK GOODNESS James you are here
[19:40] <Ahmed\> I usually use ip-address.com
[19:40] <Ahmed\> but i mean
[19:40] <Ahmed\> isn't any OTHER way ?
[19:40] <James147> Ahmed\: not sure of a way to do it on terminal, ifconfig dose what its ment to and gets the local ip
[19:40] <Ahmed\> yes right i did get it 192.168.1.255 HUH
[19:41] <Ahmed\> Thanks :)
[19:42] <Ahmed\> James can't i set my NAME for like a username, can't i make it ?
[19:43] <Ahmed\> brb
[19:49] <nbnds> hi ! is there a special channel for kubuntu 10.4 beta?
[19:50] <James147> nbnds: #ubuntu+1
[19:50] <nbnds> ty
[19:52] <smada> Hello
[19:55] <weecol> that's for all ubuntu derived release schedules?
[19:55] <Tm_T> yes
[19:56] <weecol> edu- k- and othwerwise buntu
[19:57] <James147> weecol: #ubuntu+1 is for all lucid versions
[19:57] <weecol> i think that was kind of what i ment
[19:59] <Ahmed\> Back
[20:13] <dhrystone> Hello. I'm brand new to Kubuntu 9.10 (installed it about 5 minutes ago), and need assistance adding a Windows shared drive/folder. Can someone assist?
[20:14] <James147> dhrystone: should be able to access it in dolphin (file manager) by going to Network->samba shares->"your workspace"->"computername"...
[20:16] <dhrystone> james147 - I found the shared folder. To add it to my desktop as a shortcut, do I just click/drag it?
[20:18] <James147> dhrystone: cant directly draw it to the desktop :S, you can add it to "Places" by dragging it to the menu on the side
[20:19] <dhrystone> Thanks man, I managed to get it added. Right-clicked and selected "Add to Places." Working on adding the printer now.
[20:19] <apparle> guys I somehow messed up my system
[20:20] <apparle> while I was installing a package... I forgot to check the diskspace
[20:20] <apparle> and it is now zero...... I booted at command line and deleted some data... but I am unable to login to kde now
[20:20] <weecol> and the package manager tried to install it anyway
[20:20] <James147> dhrystone: you can add it to your desktop if you want to by adding the widget (right click -> add widget  on your desktop) called "Quick access" and then configuring it to point to the share
[20:20] <apparle> weecol: I was using apt-get
[20:20] <genii> apparle: sudo apt-get clean            can make some room usually
[20:21] <dhrystone> Thanks again!
[20:21] <apparle> genii: I have made some room
[20:21] <apparle> but now I cannot login.... when I login, the screen flashes and I am again at the login screen
[20:21] <James147> apparle: can you run apt-get again?
[20:22] <apparle> genii: although I can login into command line using Ctrl+Alt+F1
[20:22] <apparle> James147: yes I can
[20:22] <James147> apparle: sudo aptitude install -f   will attempt to fix broken or half installed packages (dont know the apt-get equlivent)
[20:22] <apparle> James147: why... I tried purging the concerned packages and reinstalling them
[20:23] <apparle> James147: nothing happens it says everything is alright
[20:23] <James147> apparle: could try renaming .kde??
[20:24] <apparle> James147: I renamed .kde to .kdeold
[20:24] <apparle> still same
[20:24] <apparle> I have installed the package kdenetwork-dbg, and the dependencies coming with it...
[20:24] <apparle> if it concerns
[20:25] <apparle> I mean... the system messed up while installing that package
[20:27] <apparle> comeon guys.. plz help I don't know what to do... and I need to get it up and running... I am on a live CD now
[20:28] <weecol> does your disk share with tmp
[20:28] <James147> apparle: Only thing i can think of is trying a new user, reinstalling kdenetwork and kdenetwork-dbg  or try installing kubuntu-desktop (or kde-minimal or kde-full) sorry, not really siure what else to do
[20:28] <apparle> weecol: disk share with tmp means? I have everything in one ext4 partition and a swap partition
[20:29] <James147> apparle: or at the worstcase, purging kde and reinstalling it :S
[20:30] <apparle> James147: how to add new user through CLI
[20:30] <James147> apparle: man adduser :)
[20:31] <James147> apparle: sudo adduser USERNAME i think
[20:34] <Ahmed\> James, What was that command for checking up the running applications (which are connected to the internet)
[20:36] <Ahmed\>  Configuring citadel-server its asking me to write for the citadel server, what should i type ?
[20:39] <deepesh> hello room
[20:39] <deepesh> Where's everybody??
[20:39] <deepesh> hi finn KIAze
[20:40] <James147> !hi | deepesh
[20:40] <deepesh> hi james
[20:40] <deepesh> how are u??
[20:40] <mudassar> hello I have just installed kubuntu 9.10, please tell me how to use Firefox installer to easily install it
[20:41] <deepesh> hi mudassar
[20:41] <mudassar> deepesh: his deepesh
[20:41] <Ahmed\> kubuntu 9.10 ?? @_@ WHats that
[20:41] <deepesh> check the K Menu in the internet section.......The installer link is available there
[20:42] <mudassar> deepesh: I went there but it says the selected packages are already installed
[20:42] <mudassar> but firefox is not installed
[20:42] <deepesh> then shut down and restart the system.....
[20:42] <deepesh> i installed it this afternoon
[20:42] <deepesh> faced the same prob.....
[20:43] <mudassar> then ?
[20:43] <mudassar> it should make the life easier
[20:43] <Ahmed\> deepesh: get a new PC :P
[20:43] <Ahmed\> that at least support Gnome
[20:43] <deepesh> Once you restart the system....focus on to installing debugging files
[20:44] <deepesh> but ahmed i used the previous version of Kubuntu........it worked well then....
[20:44] <deepesh> in fact I am having a problem of identifying my drives.....
[20:44] <mudassar> what should i do ?
[20:44] <deepesh> cant see them altogether.........
[20:45] <Ahmed\> Well can you see them on Gnome ? properly ? because on Xubuntu i have the same thing :)
[20:45] <deepesh> ahmed.......try restarting the system and carrying out the same thing which you tried earlier......
[20:45] <Ahmed\> No well i have no problem, i would rather stick to Gnome until Lucid comes up out :)
[20:45] <deepesh> And ahmed....how do i see them on gnome......i am not too good with comp.......
[20:46] <Ahmed\> ohh...So you only see / this drive ? root ?
[20:46] <deepesh> sorry the restarting comment was meant for mudassar......
[20:46] <deepesh> yes i see the root folder
[20:46] <deepesh> but nothing in the folder.......
[20:46] <deepesh> meaning no drives....
[20:46] <Ahmed\> Okay well :) do you have 2 HDD ?
[20:47] <deepesh> no....I got a single HDD but have partitioned it with FAT 32 just as i was installing Kubuntu 9.10
[20:47] <James147> mudassar: try installing firefox through kpackagekit (or a packagemanager of your choise)
[20:48] <mudassar> james147: packagekit only shows the installer of firefox
[20:48] <Ahmed\> have you install Kubuntu ONLY ? or on ubuntu's Gnome you have downloaded and install Kubuntu ? cause these are two different things
[20:49] <deepesh> No i have installed only Kubuntu 9.10....received a CD....
[20:49] <James147> mudassar: then try running "sudo aptitude install firefox" from terminal
[20:49] <James147> deepesh: can you not see the drives in dolphin? (usually in teh places menu)
[20:49] <Ahmed\> Well strange, you got two issues ? firefox and  unable to see or mount drives
[20:50] <deepesh> no james.......unable to see the drives.....
[20:50] <James147> deepesh: are they already mounted?
[20:50] <Ahmed\> James i'm having an issue on kubuntu i mean i can't see my song's thumbnals on pictures of videos but i can see on GNome properly :) WHY not on dolphin ?
[20:50] <deepesh> no james......
[20:51] <deepesh> the only drive i can see is the SD1....where Kubuntu is installed.....
[20:51] <mudassar> james147: It says "No candidate version found for firefox"
[20:51] <Ahmed\> mudassar: try df -h
[20:51] <James147> deepesh: can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"?
[20:51] <Ahmed\> if you can see anything ?
[20:51] <James147> mudassar: try it with firefox-3.5
[20:52] <mudassar> james147: not worked
[20:52] <deepesh> how do u do that james......will definitely help.....
[20:52] <James147> !pastebin | deepesh
[20:54] <James147> mudassar: what version of kubuntu are you useing?
[20:54] <mudassar> 9.10
[20:54] <Ahmed\> i mean KDE's version dude
[20:54] <Ahmed\> 4.3 or 4.4
[20:55] <deepesh> james...can you guide me how to pastebin the output?? meaning....i have opened the page...but dont know what to do next.....
[20:55] <James147> hmm, try this: sudo aptitude purge firefox firefox-3.5 firefox-3.0 firefox-3.1 kubuntu-firefox-installer && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install firefox
[20:55] <mudassar> how to know the kde version ?
[20:55] <James147> mudassar: ^^
[20:55] <LeeJunFan> Ahmed\: you need to install mplayerthumbs to see video thumbnails.
[20:56] <Ahmed\> umm from dolphin click on about KDE
[20:56] <Ahmed\> ohh lee.. can i install it from being on Gnome ?
[20:56] <LeeJunFan> yeah. It'll be there when you get back to KDE.
[20:56] <Ahmed\> okay i have installed :)
[20:56] <Ahmed\> Thanks dude
[20:57] <James147> deepesh: to copy from konsole click and drag over the text and tehn alt+shift+c to copy (or rightclick and click copy)
[20:57] <mudassar> KDE 4.3.2
[20:58] <James147> deepesh: past it on the link ubottu gave type your user name (or something) click submit then paste the link to taht page here
[20:58] <Kyran_Be> hey, I've got quite the geeky question
[20:58] <LeeJunFan> Ahmed\: np. There's also an option in dolphin under settings->preview that you may have to checkmark the video previews, should have (mplayerthumbs) next to it.
[20:58] <Kyran_Be> I don't have any virtual consoles running on tty1 to 6
[20:58] <Kyran_Be> just a blinking cursor
[20:58] <deepesh> all right.....opened konsole terminal but its blank
[20:58] <Kyran_Be> but I do have 6 getty processes running
[20:58] <Kyran_Be> and sudo start tty1 also says the terminal is running
[20:59] <Kyran_Be> it's been like this since I upgraded to karmic, does anyone have any ideas?
[20:59] <mudassar> James147: Party for you :) it worked perfectly
[20:59] <Ahmed\> and how about images ? i mean on desktop i can but in a folder i can't since upgrade to 4.4 KDE :)
[20:59] <LeeJunFan> Ahmed\: that might be under the same preview settings. I've never had a problem with images.
[21:00] <Ahmed\> umm okay :)
[21:00] <deepesh> i typed sudo fdisk 1 on it....and now it asks for a password....when i try to type in my admin password..nothing gets typed on the screen....
[21:01] <James147> deepesh: sudo fdisk -l  < that a lower case L
[21:01] <James147> deepesh: press Ctrl+c to cancel that command
[21:01] <deepesh> ok.....pressing control c......
[21:02] <James147> deepesh: sudo will ask for your password when you run it ^^ it should be the password you login with
[21:03] <James147> deepesh: can you also pastebin the output of "df -l"
[21:03] <deepesh> yes james.....it does ask for a password but nothing gets typed on the screen....meaning everything gets frozen.......even when i used lower case L
[21:04] <James147> deepesh: on the terminal no password is shown, ust type it and press enter
[21:04] <deepesh> ok......will try again
[21:05] <otswim> how can i detect my windows partition on dolphin? before i always had my windows partition and i would just click on it to mount it; but now it's not there, maybe i can manuall mount it? or tell dolphin to refresh?
[21:06] <deepesh> now it shows fdisk-l not found
[21:07] <aaaa> adas
[21:07] <James147> deepesh: space between the k and -  : sudo fdisk  -l
[21:07] <deepesh> ok....trying once again.....
[21:08] <James147> otswim: is the partition mounted?
[21:08] <deepesh> got through this time........
[21:08] <deepesh> pasting it in the pastebin section.....on the site...
[21:09] <James147> deepesh:  :) now pastebin the output along with the out put of "df -l"
[21:09] <deepesh> ok......will do that.....what is the command for copying from the terminal??
[21:09] <deepesh> how silly of me....just figured out.....
[21:10] <otswim> James147: no :( but i was able to mount it manually
[21:11] <jp__> hi all
[21:11] <James147> otswim: dolphin usually just shows you things that arnt already mounted or that are mounted in /media/
[21:12] <deepesh> yes james.....i pasted them in the pastebin......
[21:13] <otswim> James147: yes but my windows partition wasn't mounted, and dolphin didn't see it
[21:13] <James147> deepesh: paste the link here :)
[21:13] <otswim> James147: now i've manually mounted it in /media and dolphin still doesn't see it
[21:13] <James147> otswim: hmm
[21:13] <deepesh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/407730/                            thats the link James
[21:14] <James147> deepesh: can you rerun the first command with -l  not -1  :)
[21:15] <James147> deepesh: but i take it the drive you want to access is /dev/sda6? mounted at /windows?
[21:15] <James147> deepesh: or sda7 at /dos
[21:15] <deepesh> i used lower case L as u advised........should I use Capital "i"??
[21:16] <James147> otswim: you can add it to fstab to auto mount on boot and place a link in dolphin as a workaround
[21:16] <deepesh> yes...thats correct.....
[21:16] <James147> deepesh: sudo fdisk -1  <- thats whats in teh pastebin... its a 1 not an l (L)
[21:16] <deepesh> unable to see any of those drives.....
[21:17] <FremenBlue> hey you guys
[21:17] <James147> deepesh: do teh drives auto mount at boot?
[21:17] <FremenBlue> im trying to compile mesa from xorg-edgers, and i patched it for a game i like to play. except when i debuild it fails
[21:18] <FremenBlue> anyone experienced; please help?
[21:18] <deepesh> no.....when i boot.....they dont......
[21:18] <James147> deepesh: they look mounted... did you mount them manually?
[21:19] <deepesh> i never did anything.....
[21:19] <James147> deepesh: in dolphin try to navagate to /windows  or /dos
[21:20] <deepesh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/407733/
[21:20] <deepesh> yes....i tried it in Dolphin.......
[21:20] <deepesh> let me try it once again.....
[21:20] <deepesh> i have pasted the link again.........
[21:21] <otswim> James147: yes, thanks
[21:21] <deepesh> both the folders show zero files........./dos & /windows.....
[21:21] <James147> deepesh: can you pastebin teh output of "mount"
[21:22] <deepesh> ok....pasting the output of mount
[21:23] <deepesh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/407736/                     output of mount
[21:23] <James147> otswim: :) also rightclick on places -> show all entrys
[21:24] <otswim> James147: i don't have that :o
[21:24] <otswim> just add entry
[21:25] <James147> deepesh: they are mounted... and looing at df -l again i can see they have 32 k-blocks used space :S - that indicates they they are mounted, but empty
[21:25] <deepesh> yes...i had formatted them....this morning........
[21:26] <James147> otswim: show all entrys showed my windows partition when i unmounted it :)
[21:27] <James147> deepesh: then you have acess to them...
[21:27] <James147> deepesh: everything seems fine
[21:27] <deepesh> then how do i access them??
[21:28] <deepesh> is there a command line or something that i can use??
[21:28] <James147> deepesh: just go to /windows or /dos  ... if you place files in either then they will end up on the partitions
[21:28] <deepesh> ok.......let me check.....
[21:28] <James147> deepesh: linux dosent have "drives" like windows dose (c: d: etc) instead all drives are "mounted" somewhere in teh fiel system
[21:29] <deepesh> oh i see.......let me check....just a moment
[21:29] <James147> deepesh: and if you write to the location they are mounted the files get writen to that drive
[21:29] <deepesh> hmmmm.....
[21:30] <James147> deepesh: deepeshif you unmount them then the fiels should disapear
[21:30] <deepesh> ok....
[21:30] <James147> files ^^
[21:30] <James147> deepesh: you can add the location to dolphin if you wish, other wise they seem to be working
[21:32] <deepesh> allright.........i think I got the hang of it....actually in the earlier version that i used they used to show up as "media"....so i was searching for the media icon....
[21:32] <deepesh> but i think i get your point.....
[21:32] <deepesh> saving the files in /dos & /windows should save them there.....
[21:32] <James147> deepesh: they still should, thats where kde auto mounts them, but it looks like they have been mounted at boot or manually to those locations
[21:33] <deepesh> while partitioning I had selected the mounting options and I had specified the /dos & /windows as these were the only 2 options available.....
[21:34] <James147> deepesh: if kubuntu dosent know where to mount a drive it usual pick /media/DEVICENAME or /media/disk-#   but if something else mounts them then they can go anywhere :)
[21:34] <James147> deepesh: then they get auto mounted at boot :)
[21:35] <deepesh> well james....that solves a big problem .......>Thank you so much for your help james......appreciate that......
[21:35] <James147> deepesh: /dos and /windows are the default locations the installer choises for fat and ntfs i think, but you dont ahve to use them, you can type a path to where ever you link in the installer, it will create it when it installs :0
[21:36] <deepesh> another problem that i face is that the portable HDD that i have doesnt get detected even if i plug it in manually or restart the system with the portable HDD in....
[21:36] <deepesh> BTW is the /dos and /windows option safe.......???
[21:37] <James147> deepesh: you can change the location they get mounted to by creating the folder they will be place in where you want it and then changing the mount points in /etc/fstab  to the location of the folders you created, then unmount them and remount them or reboot :)
[21:37] <James147> deepesh: dont see why the arnt safe
[21:38] <James147> deepesh: if you plug in the protable HDD and run: sudo fdisk -l   again i might be able to help
[21:38] <deepesh> ok....will do it right away.....
[21:39] <deepesh> James it has been plugged in all the while......
[21:39] <James147> deepesh: its been powered up as well?
[21:39] <deepesh> yes.....
[21:40] <deepesh> The light indicator has been on......all the while....
[21:40] <James147> unplug it and plug it power it down (if it has external power) plug it back in and power it up then run the command again
[21:40] <deepesh> ok....will do that.....
[21:40] <James147> unplug and power it down ^^
[21:41] <deepesh> its not externally powered....i unplugged it and plugged it back .......
[21:41] <deepesh> going to the terminal
[21:42] <deepesh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/407741/               here is the link
[21:43] <James147> deepesh: phew, detected it this time :)
[21:43] <James147> deepesh: dose it show in dolphin?
[21:43] <deepesh> let me see
[21:44] <FremenBlue> hello, i added the xorg-edgers PPA, and when i try to "apt-get source" i get the source from the official ubuntu, when i need the bleeding edge mesa, what am i doing wrong?
[21:45] <James147> FeasibilityStudy: take it you have run sudo apt-get update?
[21:45] <deepesh> cant find it in Dolphin
[21:46] <James147> deepesh: not in the places side bar?
[21:46] <deepesh> no....
[21:46] <deepesh> not in places sidebar
[21:47] <James147> deepesh: what about the device notifier widget on the panel? (may need to change its settings to display all devices)
[21:47] <deepesh> let me try......
[21:48] <deepesh> there is no option available for setting
[21:49] <deepesh> there is only one option...."none"
[21:49] <deepesh> lol
[21:49] <James147> deepesh: are you running kde 4.3.x?
[21:50] <deepesh> i think so
[21:50] <James147> deepesh: they made it better in 4.4.x :)
[21:51] <James147> deepesh: not sure why its not showing up though :S... you could try upgrading to 4.4.2,
[21:51] <deepesh> how do i come to know whether I am actually using 4.3 or 4.4
[21:51] <James147> deepesh: any kde app -> Help -> about kde
[21:52] <deepesh> ok......
[21:52] <deepesh> its KDE 4.3.2
[21:53] <James147> deepesh: I would advise upgrading to 4.4.2 :)
[21:53] <deepesh> ok......
[21:53] <deepesh> can it be directly downloaded??
[21:53] <James147> deepesh:  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4.2
[21:57] <deepesh> checking
[21:58] <apparle> hi guys.... I seem to have messed up the system, disk space was filled up with installing the package kdenetwork-dbg and its dependencies and the sytem crashed. I rebooted and am unable to login to kde. If I press Ctrl+Alt+F1 then I can login to command line. I emptied some space, purged the package and its dependencies, reinstalled them, tried renaming the .kde folder to .kdeold but I am still unable to login
[21:59] <apparle> Also when I tried using adduser, I got some erro like could not obtain lock to some passwd etc
[21:59] <deepesh> got it james.....
[21:59] <deepesh> thank you very much.......
[21:59] <Typos_King> apparle:    define 'crashed'
[22:00] <deepesh> thanks to you i have learnt a lot of new things about Kubuntu system
[22:00] <apparle> Typos_King: I am looking for the defination of recovery :D
[22:00] <deepesh> will download and try what u told me.....
[22:00] <Typos_King> eheh
[22:00] <Typos_King> apparle:    so long you can define 'crashed'
[22:00] <deepesh> thank you so much james.........
[22:00] <Typos_King> we may know better if we know :)
[22:01] <James147> deepesh: your welcome
[22:01] <deepesh> can you please pass me ur email ID ??
[22:01] <deepesh> James.....
[22:02] <James147> deepesh: for waht reason?
[22:03] <deepesh> so that i may let you know after I have installed KDE 4.4.2
[22:03] <deepesh> are u always available here..??
[22:03] <James147> deepesh: will most likly be here :)
[22:03] <James147> deepesh: if not later then tomorrow
[22:04] <deepesh> Oh i see.........do u work for Kubuntu??
[22:04] <James147> can anyone else access mail.google.com or .co.uk?
[22:04] <kaddi> hi, I'm having issues with VI. Somehow when I press up or down it just prints A or B instead of moving the cursor.
[22:04] <kaddi> anyone knows how to resolve this?
[22:04] <James147> deepesh: no, just like helping out :D
[22:05] <James147> kaddi: press esc and try :)
[22:05] <deepesh> Hats off to you james.....thanks a lot....will try tomorrow over here.......
[22:05] <James147> kaddi: or if you want to move while in edit mode install vim-full
[22:05] <kaddi> I tried moving .vim but that didnt help. (i restarted the command line after moving the folder)
[22:05] <deepesh> am logging out now......
[22:05] <deepesh> bye
[22:06] <kaddi> there's no package that'll match vim-full :s Do you have the exact name?
[22:06] <James147> kaddi: or possibally install vim
[22:06] <kaddi> on it
[22:06] <henkka> yo
[22:06] <Typos_King> kaddi:     press Esc, I assume  you're in some editing mode while that happens
[22:06] <henkka> lol my first time on irc program
[22:06] <Typos_King> Esc to exit that edit mode
[22:07] <kaddi> hi henkka
[22:07] <kaddi> :)
[22:07] <henkka> yo kaddi
[22:07] <James147> kaddi: think vim-tiny is installed by default, its missing alot of nice things in it, like moving in edit mode and backspace not updating the display :)
[22:07] <Typos_King> henkka:  yo wasssop henkka da man in da h00dz, wassop gee
[22:08] <henkka> lol
[22:08] <kaddi> James147: lol, yes, installing vim fixed a lot. :p Not used to that vim-tiny thingie, very weird.. I was suspecting a broken config :p
[22:08] <henkka> I fail at joining my friends irc channel...
[22:09] <James147> kaddi: no, vim-tiny installs a smaller not so good version of vi
[22:09] <James147> kaddi: dont know why its installed by default ofver vim
[22:10] <James147> kaddi: also Kate -> Settings -> Configure Kate -> Editing -> Vi input mode :D
[22:10] <kaddi> nice :D
[22:12] <Typos_King> editing vi  input?
[22:12] <Typos_King> tsk
[22:13] <henkka> hmm how do i change the nick..
[22:13] <Ahmed\> henkka: on your left
[22:13] <Typos_King>  /nick NEWNICK
[22:13] <henkka> asd
[22:14] <Henzeh> nice yhx
[22:14] <Henzeh> uhh whats this "away nickname" ?
[22:16] <Typos_King> status on the nick, as in letting other folks know, that you may not be at the keyboard at the moment, maybe fixing up a sandwhich or taking a shower or.... shopping around
[22:17] <Henzeh> hmm
[22:18] <Henzeh> When will this message occur then
[22:22] <Typos_King> whenever you set it
[22:22] <Typos_King> you can set it manually with /away REASONHERE or you can have your irc client set it with a timing
[22:22] <Typos_King> and such, I barely ever use it
[22:22] <Typos_King> usually if I'd be away-from-keyboard I set my nick on Typos_King-afk
[22:23] <Typos_King> so folks know
[22:23] <Henzeh> how do i set it with a timing then?
[22:23] <Typos_King> dunno, is up to the UI in your irc
[22:23] <Typos_King> client
[22:23] <Henzeh> oh
[22:24] <Henzeh> umm btw can i join any possible quakenet channel on some irc program? im a complete noob at this.
[22:28] <Typos_King> well,, yeah
[22:28] <kaddi> Henzeh: yes, you can set up differnet networks in your irc program normally
[22:29] <Typos_King> with most irc clients these days, you can open unlimited networks and in each network unlimited channels, so
[22:30] <Henzeh> so is quakenet a network eh? and a different 'chat room' is a channel i guess...
[22:31] <Typos_King> yeah
[22:31] <xrandr> what is the application that shows the K Panel and kicker? It is no longer starting when KDE starts
[22:32] <James147> xrandr: plasma-desktop
[22:33] <James147> xrandr: or plasma-netbook for netbook edition
[22:33] <Henzeh> umm is it possible to get the list of all the current and active quakenet channels?
[22:34] <med> hi all channel's people
[22:34] <Henzeh> hello med
[22:35] <med> where are you from henzel ?
[22:35] <Henzeh> Finland
[22:35] <med> ups sorry henzeh
[22:35] <Tm_T> !ot
[22:36] <xrandr> it keeps crashing
[22:36] <xrandr> Invalid D-BUS interface name 'org.kde.plasma-desktop.PlasmaApp' found while parsing introspection
[22:36] <Tm_T> !fi | Henzeh moi
[22:36] <xrandr> how can I fix that/
[22:36] <Henzeh> thank you ubottu
[22:37] <millun> hi, i'm looking for a vista theme but i am afraid to use vista r7 transformation pack
[22:37] <James147> xrandr: try running: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install -f    from konsole
[22:37] <Tm_T> millun: I think you can get Windows Vista support in ##windows
[22:37] <James147> !ubottu | Henzeh
[22:38] <med> better in ubuntu and kubuntu than windows
[22:38] <millun> no, i am looking for a kde vista theme
[22:38] <Henzeh> ubottu is some kind of automatic bot helper thingy?
[22:38] <Henzeh> I see :D
[22:38] <Tm_T> millun: ah, then I don't know, sorry (:
[22:38] <xrandr> James147:  trying...
[22:39] <xrandr> it's stuck at 99% Receiving Headers
[22:39] <James147> xrandr: wait a bit
[22:39] <xrandr> ok
[22:39] <Henzeh> uhh so dudes how can i join a quakenet channel? i have no idea! :(
[22:39] <James147> xrandr: have you added any ppas?
[22:40] <xrandr> probably a few :D
[22:40] <James147> xrandr: it finished yet?
[22:40] <xrandr> yeh its going
[22:41] <James147> xrandr: it trying to install programs?
[22:41] <xrandr> its installing and fixing some dependencies
[22:41] <James147> xrandr: good :) plasma-desktop will probally work after then
[22:42] <xrandr> k
[22:42] <xrandr> probably need to reboot
[22:48] <xrandr> James147: nope...didnt do it
[22:49] <James147> xrandr: its only plasma-desktop that wont start?
[22:49] <xrandr> yep
[22:49] <xrandr> no background image, no panels
[22:49] <James147> xrandr: do you have kubuntu-netbook-default-settings installed?
[22:50] <James147> opps close the wrong window :S
[22:51] <avihay> anyone here uses a newer version then 9.10? I was wondering if kaffein is starting to get it's missing features back
[22:51] <xrandr> no idont
[22:51] <xrandr> but i dont have a netbook
[22:52] <James147> xrandr: just checking, had problesm with plasma-desktop starting on my netbook because that was installed
[22:53] <xrandr> bbl
[22:55] <loic> Bonsoir
[22:55] <loic> il y a t'il quelqu'un qui parle francais içi?.
[22:55] <Tm_T> !fr | loic
[22:56] <James147> xrandr: hmm, you could try renaming .kde to see if that helps
[22:56] <loic> thnks ty i go on! bye
[22:57] <joeuser2ooo> anglais? not german?
[22:59] <joeuser2ooo> ic. thought the installation assistant would beam me to a german channel... anyway, np.
[23:00] <Machtin> any suggestions on a development environment for linux for C?
[23:01] <Machtin> graphical with fast compile/test-button or so :D
[23:04] <joeuser2ooo> c coders use vim or emacs --- not?
[23:08] <James147> Machtin: qt-creator or kdevelop they are more c++ but should be able to do c as well
[23:08] <James147> Machtin: kdevelop4 is still in development so is a little unstable
[23:09] <Machtin> that's okay i guess
[23:09] <Machtin> thanks
[23:17] <James147> anyone know what file goggle chrome stores its passwords in?
[23:19]  * genii puts on his internet goggles
[23:20] <genii> James147: Something about it here http://www.chromeplugins.org/google/chrome-tools/chromepassworddecryptor-google-chrome-password-recovery-tool-7953.html
[23:22] <James147> genii: seen a few of them, but they are windows programs, and I dont want to decrpt the passwords I just want to back them up, but not the entire profile
[23:23] <Hulk> whats the command to tell Tar not to include other folders above the path?
[23:23]  * genii flexes his google-fu
[23:24] <genii> James147: http://superuser.com/questions/79821/chrome-passwords-data
[23:24] <genii> Hulk just use it on the dir name
[23:24] <genii> (instead of with dirname/    and recursing or so)
[23:25] <Hulk> genii, it save the folder home/user/ also
[23:25] <James147> genii: found that location my self, but there are alot of files in there :)
[23:26] <Hulk> genii, i just want it to save the last folder ABC only  /home/user/ABC
[23:30] <djflinny> hello
[23:40] <Hazel-> how can i install the nvidia driver in kubuntu 9.10?
[23:41] <genii> !nvidia
[23:44] <siri1> hi all..i m using ubuntu9.10 in gnome desktop, i want to get kde desktop, my main intention is to compile and run src code of kdegame, the only source is internet with some slow
[23:45] <Maranatha> I have this issue when trying to play youtube videos in full screen "The following plug-in has crashed: /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so"
[23:45] <Hazel-> thanks genii
[23:45] <FremenBlue> hello,
[23:45] <FremenBlue> somone help?
[23:46] <James147> siri1: you can easly install kde on ubuntu by installing kubuntu-desktop  kde-full or kde-minimal or if you jsut want teh games then kdegames :)
[23:46] <James147> !help | FremenBlue
[23:47] <FremenBlue> !twat james147
[23:48] <siri1> James147: last time installed kubuntu-desktop but after that i got strucked in loading itself after booting, someone said its due to lost of session manager, i didnt want to face such a problem again!
[23:49] <James147> FremenBlue: ^^ how can we help if we dont know what the problem is
[23:51] <siri1> James147: i want to install the minimal kde , how?
[23:51] <James147> siri1: sudo aptitude install kde-minimal
[23:52] <FremenBlue> james147 i installed the Xorg-edgers PPA, then upgraded, and theres a bug in the mesa, for which a patch has been released. idk what im doing though, so what do i do with the patch?
[23:52] <siri1> James147: can i get the working kdelibes from this??
[23:52] <FremenBlue> fremenblue hi
[23:52] <FremenBlue> fremenblue: hi
[23:53] <James147> siri1: would think so... but I think its what kubuntu-desktop installs...
[23:53] <Maranatha> I have this issue when trying to play youtube videos in full screen "The following plug-in has crashed: /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so"
[23:54] <siri1> James147: you mean to install kubuntu-desktop or kde-minimal?
[23:56] <James147> siri1: either i think would work, kubuntu-desktop if you want the entire kubntu or kde-minimal if you just want a minamal kde instalation
[23:57] <siri1> James147: ok thank you :)