[00:05] kenvandine: around? [00:09] * dobey needs to find a main uploader [00:12] dobey: What needs uploading? [00:14] TheMuso: i'm about to roll ubuntuone-storage-protocol and ubuntuone-client releases, and since the freeze deadline is in 45 min, i was looking for someone that can actually do the upload (since i don't have the privs yet) [00:14] dobey: Sure, give me bzr repo URLs in order of upload and I can do them. [00:14] TheMuso: will do as soon as i get them pushed :) [00:14] and/or tarballs, I don't know how you guys do releases. [00:15] TheMuso: i usually update a package branch with the release, and push [00:15] dobey: ok [00:15] * dobey grabs a coke and gets the releases done [00:46] TheMuso: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-control-tower/ubuntu/lucid/ubuntuone-storage-protocol/trunk/+merge/22581 first one :) [00:46] dobey: ok [00:53] dobey: let me know when client is ready, test building storage-protocol now. [00:53] TheMuso: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-control-tower/ubuntu/lucid/ubuntuone-client/trunk/+merge/22582 [00:54] TheMuso: good timing :) [00:54] ok will get on that once storage-protocol is done. [00:55] TheMuso: great. you are a savior! :) [00:56] dobey: np [01:00] dobey: storage-protocol uploaded. [01:00] yay [01:01] Test building client now. [01:03] Stupid fridge. Why doesn't it have a cow in there so I'd never run out of milk for coffee? [01:04] RAOF: lol [01:04] dobey: client uploaded. [01:05] TheMuso: great! thanks so much! [01:05] dobey: You're welcome. [01:38] RAOF - this is why i drink coffee without milk ;) [01:39] But you need an espresso machine to make that work properly, and my brother hasn't bought mine yet :) [04:00] RAOF, have you seen bug 533435 ? [04:00] Launchpad bug 533435 in f-spot "f-spot hangs after exporting pictures to local folder" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533435 [04:03] kenvandine: I had not. Thanks for raising it. [04:06] it is driving my wife nuts... which in turn makes her bug me :) [04:07] it is weird that i can't make it fail on my laptop [04:12] Argh. F-Spot is still a rich source of five vitamins and crashes. [04:13] hehe [04:13] lol [04:26] Holy race condition, Batman! [04:27] RAOF, i guess you found it :) [04:28] No, but I have managed to reproduce it once, outside the debugger. [04:28] GAH! Stop killing f-spot, X. [06:22] Hurray for GTK's thread-unsafety! [06:40] kenvandine: You say your wife's laptop reliably hangs? It's much more difficult for me to reproduce the problem, but I think I've got a fix; can you test? [06:43] RAOF: I've yet to see a toolkit you can use from multiple threads [06:44] Amaranth: GDI, sadly. [06:44] Wow, that's pretty cool actually [06:44] Not even Cocoa allows it [07:19] Good morning [07:20] Good morning. [07:46] * pitti -> doctor appointment, back in ~ 1 hour [08:17] good morning [08:40] hello [08:42] salut baptistemm [08:43] hey hey desktopers [08:52] hey seb128 ;) how you are before your week-end? [08:52] (I'm updating metacity btw) [08:53] hello didrocks [08:53] good thank you [08:53] you? [08:53] we have a candidate to fix for ubuntu release in gnome-bluetooth [08:53] I'm good too, early evening are great sometimes! [08:54] baptistemm: candidate=you or a patch? :) [08:54] baptistemm, candidate? [08:54] didrocks, ;-) [08:54] didrocks, while doing the update could you look to the default nworkspace? [08:54] it still seems to be 2 [08:54] during the night I had a lot of dup on the bug I reported yesterday (double-free problem) [08:54] I though you said you would change that when you looked at it before [08:54] seb128: oh really? I was thinking I fixed that a while ago… [08:55] baptistemm, did you get a fix or just a bug? [08:55] didrocks, seems not in current lucid guest session [08:55] but my install might be screwed [08:55] I'm upgrading this box for years [08:55] seb128: ok, let me have a look at that [08:56] seb128, I reported upŝtream, and I'm trying to ping hadess, but my time is limited [08:57] baptistemm, did you get a valgrind log? [08:57] what is the bug number? [08:57] yep [08:57] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/552140 [08:57] Ubuntu bug 552140 in gnome-bluetooth "bluetooth-applet crashed when laptop's connectivity switch was turned off: bluetooth-applet assert failure: *** glibc detected *** bluetooth-applet: double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x081443c0 ***" [Undecided,Incomplete] [09:00] it didn't exist in 2.29.x so a git bisect can help I guess [09:00] baptistemm, neither of you had gnome-bluetooth-dbgsym install those logs are useless [09:00] * pitti waves to France [09:00] baptistemm, I will have a look to the issue now [09:01] pitti, hello! [09:01] seb128, you have a bluetooth adapter [09:01] hello pitti [09:01] baptistemm, I've a laptop with bluetooth [09:01] am I the only one who deleted 200 spam mails from LP debian bug imports today? [09:01] pitti, yes [09:01] pitti, I had like 350 of those [09:01] hey guys [09:02] oh, dholbach having issues again [09:02] hey dholbach [09:02] dholbach, why do you join only when you have a bug? :p [09:02] seb128: so, "no" :) [09:02] * pitti hugs dholbach [09:02] I just removed almost everything out of my ~, and have "alt+1" issues again [09:02] seb128, so true :) [09:02] this sucks :) [09:02] * dholbach hugs you all back [09:02] seb128: because I'm in too many channels already [09:02] * seb128 hugs dholbach [09:02] bah [09:03] slangasek froze one day earlier that I though [09:03] sucks [09:03] I guess bluez 4.63 won't make it for lucid [09:04] likely not [09:06] I just removed all the dot files and directories out of ~, logged into a session, alt+1 does not work [09:06] W E I R D [09:07] hey pitti ;) [09:08] dholbach, is it working in the guest session? [09:08] dholbach: :/ [09:09] seb128: yes [09:09] dholbach, do you have the same keyboard layout active in both sessions too [09:10] ? [09:10] seb128: I'd think so - I removed all the dot files [09:10] can you check? [09:10] how do I check it? [09:12] pitti, ^ [09:12] you can look to the keyboard capplet [09:12] it should have the current layout selected [09:15] gconftool -g /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd/layouts [09:15] you can compare that in both sessions [09:15] that's the gnome configuration [09:15] xprop -root|grep XKB [09:15] ^ and that's the actual, real, REAL configuration that the X server uses (and which g-s-d sets) [09:16] hum [09:16] seb128: these are exactly the same [09:16] gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd [09:16] xprop -root|grep XKB [09:16] pitti, so you decided to write buggy apport code to be able to close a zillion bug? [09:16] pitti, cheater! [09:16] * seb128 hugs pitti [09:16] isn't it a great plan? :-) [09:16] dholbach, so I don't know === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [09:17] it's not the keyboard [09:17] seb128: see what damage 3 hours LP downtime can do! :-) [09:17] it's not the user config [09:17] pitti, hehe [09:17] so I probably should create a new user :-( [09:17] seb128: but don't worry, I'm still faaar behind you [09:17] this is SO weird [09:17] dholbach, it does it in several softwares [09:17] also, the keyboard layout doesn't really affect individual keys [09:17] seb128: hm? [09:18] usually I would tell you assigned the shortcut to an entry by error using it while the entry was selected [09:18] if z/ö/`/etc. are fine, then the kbd layout is correct [09:18] but if it happens it differents applications it's not likely the issue [09:18] hey seb128, I looked at the gnome-keyring string change and looks good! It got handled transparently without translator intervention -> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/gnome-keyring/+pots/gnome-keyring/fr/16/+translate Thanks a lot! [09:18] dpm, hello, oh good, thanks for checking! [09:20] bug #553037 shrug [09:20] Launchpad bug 553037 in gnome-panel "no options to stop the strange behaviour of wanda fish on april 1st" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553037 [09:22] no worries :) [09:26] mvo, sorry for the silly question, but: I was testing the pathbar-atk branch and software-center crashed with "Segmentation fault (core dumped)". Is it useful to attach the core dump anywhere, and if so, where do I find it? [09:27] I don't see a "core" file either in the same folder or in my home folder [09:30] mpt: oh. it it crashed locally only apport will not pick it up. you can run it inside gdb. I was using the branch too and it does not crash for me. is this reproducable? [09:31] -boom- [09:31] yes it is [09:32] mpt: what do you have to do to trigger it? [09:32] mvo, I press Shift Tab several times while a department icon is focused in the lobby screen [09:32] I guess that's probably a bug in trunk rather than a bug in the branch [09:33] I'll see if I can do it in the packaged version [09:33] smells like webkit [09:33] seb128, pitti: I just created a new user, it happens there too ;-) [09:34] it's weird it doesn't happen in the guest session [09:34] just ctrl-alt-t, ctrl-shift-t, alt+1 to reproduce [09:36] in any software? [09:36] well I can't try there [09:37] I use alt-N for workspace changes so they don't work for tabs change [09:37] ok, I fixed it now by having 'de' as only keyboard layout and not 'de' and 'ir' [09:38] * dholbach reproduces [09:38] adding 'ir' again sparks the "give me the output of xprop and kbd info please because something is broken" dialogue [09:44] dholbach, see it was a keyboard issue [09:44] keyboard issue? [09:46] you mean the alt+1 issue was triggered by a keyboard layout configuration? [09:46] seb128: ^ [09:46] ok, I fixed it now by having 'de' as only keyboard layout and not 'de' and 'ir' [09:46] you said no? [09:46] eh? I'm not sure I understand :) [09:47] it looks like like the alt+1 issue was triggered by a keyboard layout configuration [09:47] on which package would I file the bug? [09:47] right, that's what I meant [09:47] "layout issue" [09:47] rather than "keyboard issue" [09:47] ie the keyboard layout [09:47] not a GNOME option or config [09:48] seb128: which package do you suggest I file a bug on? [09:49] talk to pitti [09:49] hello pitti :) [09:49] I guess xkeyboard-config [09:49] but I'm not sure it's a bug [09:49] having multiple layouts with non latin ones needs tricks [09:50] to be able to use both alphabets [09:50] I still don't understand this, though [09:50] if you configure "de" it works, and if you configure "de,ir" and actually use de, it doesn't work? [09:50] xkeyboard-config might be a good starting point, yes; but you can't have two layouts active anyway [09:50] I'm just figuring out a minimal test-case, but it looks like "new user, some latin keyboard layout, add 'ir' layout, log in again, alt+1 hosed, even if you use the other latin layout" [09:51] I'm just confirming it with a uk keyboard [09:51] so, it'd be libxklavier or xkeyboard-config, I don't know, I'm afraid [09:52] ok [09:57] mvo, caught it, bug 553126 [09:57] Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: list index out of range (https://launchpad.net/bugs/553126) [09:58] mpt: thanks I check it out once LP is back [09:59] maybe it's language-selector :) [09:59] right now it doesn't let me "install / remove languages" [09:59] the button is all greyed out [10:00] ah nevermind, I'm not an admin user [10:07] dholbach, bug #518306 is somewhat similar [10:07] Launchpad bug 518306 in gnome-settings-daemon "Some keyboard shortcuts stop working after reboot when using non-qwerty layout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/518306 [10:08] baptistemm, I see the bluetooth bug I will fix it now [10:21] mpt: I think I made some pretty good progress in the a11y area for the listview too, but orca now gets really on my nerves ;) I can't hear "slash" anymore [10:21] thanks seb128 [10:21] mvo, haha [10:22] mvo, we need a nice non-robotic female voice [10:22] but those are expensive to make [10:26] mpt: absolutely! [10:26] pitti: actually I think it's when you have two different layouts configured (now it's de,uk and it doesn't work) [10:26] but I'll shut up now [10:27] I know how to workaround the issue [10:27] re [10:28] tjaalton, speaking of keyboard do you know if evdev is known to be broken in vms or something [10:28] seems vmware users have no input working on gdm in current lucid... [10:29] pitti, I've uploaded a gnome-bluetooth one liner change to drop a leak fix we added which has been fixed in the new version too, leading to double free and crash [10:29] seb128: thanks; will look at the queue later on [10:29] pitti, I would appreciate if you could accept it [10:29] danke [10:29] it's not that it's any urgent, with the current buildd backlog.. [10:30] right [10:32] hey, we have an amd64 builder again [10:33] mpt: re bug #433104 - that appears to be working just fine for me now, when I navigate in the main category view I get read the right section names [10:33] Launchpad bug 433104 in webkit "Ubuntu Software Center "Get Software" screen contents not read in Orca" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/433104 [10:35] seb128: not aware of that, it should work [10:42] seb128: so, fixed the number of ws by default (the issue was in compiz) and integrated in new metacity bug #535088 (which needs too a compiz rebuild then for compiz-gnome). But not sure how we can upload that with the freeze… [10:42] Launchpad bug 535088 in metacity "Metacity bug when using background for buttons" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/535088 [10:43] didrocks, just upload [10:43] things go in the queue [10:43] they will be reviewed there [10:43] seb128: yeah, but there is no bug targeted to beta, so if it's not accepted, we will still have 2 ws [10:44] it will be accepted after beta2 [10:44] if it's not before [10:44] just upload [10:44] I don't see the issue [10:44] or do you mean it should be a beta2 blocker? [10:45] seb128: not sure about changing from 2 to 4 ws by default can be seen like "things changed at last time" [10:45] seb128: is there a bug about it? [10:45] but apart from the Alt + 7 issue fixed in the new metacity release, nothing important [10:45] didrocks, compiz is already defaulting to the correct value [10:46] didrocks, so it's not really a config change [10:46] it's fixing the non default wm to use the same config [10:46] seb128: hum? I launched a live and there is 2 ws with compiz (and it's this one which doesn't have the right default value, metacity is ok) [10:47] but when you switch back from compiz to metacity, it rewrites the compiz value (2) [10:47] tjaalton, bug #548891 seems to be one [10:47] Launchpad bug 548891 in gdm "keyboard input broken at gnome login prompt after package updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/548891 [10:47] didrocks, weird, guest sessions have the right value there [10:47] using compiz [10:47] that's weird, not what I saw in today's live. Well, don't bother, I'll just upload [10:48] seb128: bug 471044 seems a bit weird to me, do you know what's going on there? the fix has been merged into lp:~ubuntu-desktop/dbusmenu/ubuntu, but that branch is now retired in favor of lp:ubuntu/libdbusmenu, but that doesn't have any uncommitted stuff [10:48] Launchpad bug 471044 in dbusmenu "Dropdown menu disappears on update" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/471044 [10:48] pitti, it has been fixed weeks ago? [10:48] or not [10:48] I though it had, I didn't see it for a while [10:49] hm, it's "fix commited" upstream and "triaged" in ubuntu [10:49] pitti, well it will be fixed in today tarball [10:49] I would not bother [10:49] seb128: ok, not caused by the backport anyway, since it's that old [10:50] seb128: ok, fine; I'm just reviewing all beta-2 milestoned bugs which are desktop-ish, since today is essentially the last day to land changes [10:50] pitti, I guess kenvandine merged to the wrong location [10:51] pitti, you can merge it to lp:ubuntu... if you want and upload I guess [10:51] pitti, or do you want me to do that? [10:51] seb128: depends, if you have time? [10:51] pitti, I have and I get the issue often [10:51] doing that now [10:52] * pitti hugs seb128, thanks [10:52] np [10:52] I confused with an another bug from the title before when I said I though it was fixed [10:52] so the old branch was pushed as lp:ubuntu/dbusmenu, to keep the history? [10:52] interesting [10:52] the auto-imports cannot be merged to [10:53] it's all a mess this bzr workflow change [10:54] seb128: if my suspicions are right and lp:ubuntu/dbusmenu didn't preserve history, please revive the original branch again [10:54] we absolutely want to be able to merge from trunk [10:55] grrrrr hate bzr [10:55] why does it has to be so complicated [10:55] what are you trying to do? [10:55] nothing [10:55] just commenting on such issues [10:55] like history not being right [10:55] well, it's the auto-imports which create that mess :/ [10:55] they totally ignored existing history [10:55] not being able to backport from trunk [10:56] so we should not use the auto-imports for branches where that matters [10:56] how do we do that? [10:56] can I overwrite lp:ubuntu...? [10:56] ie bzr push --overwrite there? [10:56] instead, the right thing to do would be to push lp:~ubuntu-desktop/libdbusmenu/ubuntu to lp:ubuntu/libdusmenu [10:56] (it doesn't work, please don't) [10:56] no [10:56] see [10:56] seb128: just ignore the auto-import branch [10:56] it's all a mess [10:56] I though we wanted to move to the canonical location [10:56] *shrug* [10:57] seb128: please revert ken's change of disabling the original branch, and just use that one [10:57] k [10:57] seb128: yes, for things like gvfs it works fine [10:57] but not for stuff that we have upstream in bzr [10:57] well [10:57] take gvfs [10:57] for those, lp:ubuntu/* is absolutely useless [10:57] does it mean we can't merge from upstream bzr imports now? [10:57] seb128: I don't know [10:58] not that I do that now or know if there is a bzr gvfs import [10:58] haven't tried that yet [10:58] eventually that's the idea, of course [10:58] but I though that would be one of the nice things we would be able to do [10:58] but I can see that failing the same way [10:58] anyway thanks [10:58] I'm switching back to the ubuntu-desktop vcs [10:59] thanks [11:03] pitti, we will not get the firefox changes in beta2? [11:04] I see you changed the milestone on this search bug [11:04] seb128: we'll get the "doesn't start with some extensions" and the cairo patch [11:04] seb128: but the ubufox one won't make it, I'm afraid [11:04] oh good [11:04] that's ok [11:04] I just saw chrisccoulson pinging asac for uploads yesterday [11:04] I was wondering if we missed the freeze limit now [11:04] I'll sponsor xulrunner now, etc. [11:05] thanks [11:05] could that we stop blocking on asac ;-) [11:06] i need to apply for core-dev [11:06] ;) [11:07] right [11:07] chrisccoulson, use the freeze time for that ;-) [11:07] i will do ;) [11:10] pitti, so for those lp:~ubuntu-desktop should bzr merge-upstream from tarball or bzr merge lp: for new versions? [11:10] ie dbusmenu [11:10] seb128: I'd use bzr merge ../trunk, as usual [11:11] merge-upstream from a tar would break the history, I think [11:11] and we don't need pristine-tar etc. [11:13] ok [11:14] seb128, where was located the problem? [11:14] baptistemm, we backported the git leak fix and didn't drop it [11:15] the change was not failing to apply but creating a double g_free [11:15] doh [11:18] hum [11:18] how to I bzr merge r or a tag version? [11:18] where r is not only that revision [11:18] but trunk as it was at the nn revision [11:19] ie bzr merge --tag doesn't work [11:20] ok, let's bzr pull -r [11:20] hum, doesn't work either to downgrade [11:22] seb128: I don't understand, bzr merge -r … doesn't work? [11:22] seb128: bzr merge -r 1234 ../trunk should merge up to trunk's r1234 [11:22] didrocks, it will merge only upstreamrev [11:22] didrocks, ie that one commit [11:22] no, that would be -c [11:22] oh [11:22] right, -c [11:22] doh [11:22] sorry guys [11:22] ("cherrypick") [11:23] I clearly lack sleep or coffee [11:23] good that the work week end today ;-) [11:23] didrocks, pitti: thanks [11:23] * pitti hugs seb128 [11:23] still interested to know if I can specify a tag [11:23] which avoid looking for what revision match the tag [11:23] seb128: bzr merge -r tag:foo ? [11:23] * seb128 hugs pitti [11:24] pitti was quicker than I :) [11:24] indeed [11:24] seb128: bzr help revisionspec FYI [11:24] it's quite flexible [11:25] thanks [11:25] date:yesterday, last:2 (pre-last), tag:foo, etc. [11:26] still hard to remember all the bzr doc (read it twice the last 2 years), only use -r rev -r tag and last :) [11:26] dear openjdk, please finish building; love, pitti [11:27] ok [11:27] lp:~ubuntu-desktop/dbusmenu/ubuntu restored with current lucid [11:27] I did --overwrite the previous change though [11:27] so if anybody has a checkout please pull --overwrite it now [11:27] kenvandine, ^ [11:33] chrisccoulson: hm, I thought you wanted to close this, because it's not relevant any more? (bug 447431) [11:33] Launchpad bug 447431 in gnome-desktop "gnome-settings-daemon dies with BadMatch" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/447431 [11:36] pitti - oh, there was probably 2 bugs [11:36] i closed one of them yesterday [11:37] pitti, btw I can confirm the rhythmbox grabbing cameras bug there [11:37] pitti, I can look at it today if you want [11:37] seb128: I pinged teuf about it yesterday, but didn't get a response [11:37] k [11:37] I'm wondering what RB is looking for [11:38] it should check ID_MEDIA_PLAYER and /dev/libmtp-* devlinks [11:38] where does _XKB_RULES_NAMES_BACKUP(STRING) come from? :) [11:38] dholbach: libxklavier [11:38] it's the original layout that the X server has, before it sets its own [11:38] and where does it have its data from? I can't seem to get 'ir' out of it [11:39] dholbach: it's originally from /etc/default/console-setup [11:39] dholbach: it gets it through udev [11:40] ok, so XKBLAYOUT in there is still set [11:40] to "de,ir" [11:40] I guess I shouldn't modify the file by hand? :) [11:41] dholbach: you can [11:41] seems that editing the keyboard preferences and using gnome-language-selector didn't update it [11:41] not sure which other "user tool" would be able to change this [11:41] pitti, ok, dbusmenu change confirmed to work, bzr fixed and update on its way to lucid [11:41]