| CIA-3 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r4025 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/ubi-language.py): | 00:45 |
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| CIA-3 | ubiquity: Don't lower-case the locale attribute on frontends. This was added a | 00:45 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: long time ago; since then, it's become unnecessary since i18n.get_string | 00:45 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: lower-cases the locale itself, and it prevented us from finding | 00:45 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: slideshow files for language variants (LP: #476269). | 00:45 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r4026 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog): | 00:51 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: partman-auto 89ubuntu4, | 00:51 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: partman-ext3 58ubuntu2. | 00:51 |
| dylan-m | cjwatson: Hi, I'm here about bug 476269 :) | 00:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 476269 in ubiquity "Chinese, Brazilian Portuguese, and English variant translations aren't shown during Karmic and Lucid installation" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/476269 | 00:57 |
| cjwatson | dylan-m: hey | 00:57 |
| dylan-m | I can fix that issue you mentioned on the slideshow's end (and I would much prefer to). Just didn't realize that was the way we were meant to do the fallback :) | 00:58 |
| cjwatson | IMO it should match slideshow_get_available_locale as closely as possible | 00:59 |
| cjwatson | that method should be correct - it was just getting screwed by locale being pt_br not pt_BR | 00:59 |
| dylan-m | Oooh, I see | 01:00 |
| dylan-m | gee, I completely missed that! Nice catch | 01:00 |
| dylan-m | Yep, that isn't a problem. I had it as a full implementation at first and for some reason decided that falling straight back to the default made more sense | 01:00 |
| dylan-m | (All guessing, though; is there some kind of reference guide for localization best practices?) | 01:01 |
| cjwatson | I'm the wrong person to ask, I've picked it up over ten years and no longer remember :) | 01:02 |
| cjwatson | slideshow_get_available_locale isn't perfect of course (way too much parsing of locale bits, and it doesn't do a complete job) - it's just good enough for the job at hand | 01:02 |
| dylan-m | Oh well, no problem | 01:02 |
| cjwatson | 'info gettext' is useful reading | 01:03 |
| cjwatson | does http://paste.ubuntu.com/407324/ look right? I haven't written any JS for a long time | 01:03 |
| dylan-m | Yep, looks good | 01:04 |
| dylan-m | I guess it'll also need to compare using .lower, too | 01:04 |
| cjwatson | I think I'd like to assume that the locale is in the canonical case | 01:05 |
| cjwatson | rather than messing about with case-canonicalisation which will get fiddly | 01:06 |
| dylan-m | Oh, yes, I guess it's on the disk in the right way anyway | 01:06 |
| dylan-m | whoever is requesting the locale just needs to say the right thing | 01:06 |
| dylan-m | (on which topic, that's a reason why it makes sense for this to happen within the slideshow: it crashes and burns if it is expecting a locale that doesn't exist, so the fallback routine always needs to be in there anyway) | 01:08 |
| cjwatson | mm, I admit it's nicer not to have this in ubiquity | 01:09 |
| cjwatson | OK, testing with my .lower removal plus that slideshow change plus your branch | 01:09 |
| cjwatson | if that works, I'll upload all three; OK with that? | 01:09 |
| dylan-m | Okay! | 01:10 |
| dylan-m | Thanks, Colin | 01:10 |
| cjwatson | you caught me just in time, I was this far from uploading ubiquity | 01:14 |
| cjwatson | right, that seems to work fine | 01:15 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: cjwatson * r258 ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ (debian/changelog slideshows/link-core/slideshow.js): | 01:17 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: Fall back from language variants (e.g. de_DE) to languages (e.g. de) | 01:17 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: (LP: #476269). | 01:17 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: cjwatson * r259 ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20 | 01:21 |
| cjwatson | dylan-m: oh, err | 01:26 |
| cjwatson | dylan-m: what about the RTL stuff? | 01:26 |
| cjwatson | ltr = i18n.get_string('default-ltr', slideshow_locale, 'ubiquity/imported') | 01:27 |
| cjwatson | if ltr == 'default:RTL': | 01:27 |
| cjwatson | that doesn't look straightforward to port | 01:27 |
| cjwatson | slides += '?rtl' | 01:27 |
| dylan-m | hate to say, that one isn't | 01:27 |
| dylan-m | I was aiming to fix that with 10.10 (since I'm hoping to redo how localization works) | 01:27 |
| cjwatson | I think we'll have to leave the ubiquity locale selection there for now, in that case | 01:27 |
| dylan-m | Yep, that one does | 01:27 |
| cjwatson | oh well | 01:28 |
| cjwatson | this'll fix the bug, at least | 01:28 |
| dylan-m | unless we can store if a locale is an RTL locale in the fantastically ugly directory.js :) | 01:28 |
| cjwatson | if you figure it out, I'll be happy to merge your ubiquity branch; I'm not going to touch that though :) | 01:28 |
| dylan-m | With the current approach it unfortunately makes en right to left if it falls back that far, but hopefully it just won't get that far | 01:29 |
| * dylan-m just reminded myself there is some extra stuff to handle there, but there's no hurry on it | 01:30 | |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r4027 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.2.12 | 01:32 |
| cjwatson | thanks for the prod and the advice! | 01:32 |
| dylan-m | Thank you for solving that bug! | 01:33 |
| shtylman | ev: bug 528678 ... is that even reproducable? | 04:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 528678 in ubiquity "UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 13: ordinal not in range(128)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528678 | 04:37 |
| Kevin` | just want to extra point this out, because it's been bugging me for a while and I hope it can be fixed in the next ubuntu version: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/160366/comments/1 | 08:53 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 160366 in debian-installer "Add xen netboot support" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 08:53 |
| Kevin` | (that is, point out that the solution would take about 5 minutes) | 08:53 |
| ev | shtylman: that's definitely a bug. Wrapping an 8-bit string in unicode() without an encoding just doesn't work. | 09:36 |
| ev | shtylman: I'm not sure why I suggested it was QString's fault. This is before it's passed to the QString constructor. | 09:36 |
| ev | cjwatson, superm1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/407480/ - does this roughly look like what you were after? I still need to check to make sure it doesn't rip out the langpack, but it otherwise works for my test of installing gnome-do and vim before running oem-config-prepare. | 10:06 |
| Kevin` | :/ | 10:07 |
| cjwatson | Kevin`: it might take about five minutes, but it's something that needs to be done in the kernel packaging - we don't control those files | 10:11 |
| Kevin` | it's already packaged in your stock kernel, just not in the installer | 10:12 |
| cjwatson | Kevin`: I know what I'm talking about. :-) | 10:12 |
| cjwatson | the kernel delivers udebs for use in the installer | 10:12 |
| Kevin` | well, I don't know much about the politics, heh. who handles it | 10:13 |
| cjwatson | it's not politics, it's just where the data files live | 10:13 |
| cjwatson | debian/d-i/ in the linux source package | 10:13 |
| cjwatson | sorry, debian.master/d-i/ these days | 10:13 |
| cjwatson | I've reassigned the bug, thanks | 10:14 |
| Kevin` | #ubuntu-kernel ? | 10:15 |
| cjwatson | if it were changeable in the installer, I'd have done it already :) | 10:15 |
| cjwatson | yes, tell them I sent you | 10:15 |
| cjwatson | I'd like it to be fixed, certainly | 10:17 |
| cjwatson | xen-blkfront should go in scsi-modules, and xen-netfront should go in nic-modules | 10:17 |
| cjwatson | (feel free to copy and paste that) | 10:18 |
| cjwatson | ev: looks plausible enough | 10:20 |
| ev | hooray | 10:20 |
| ev | just need to put it through its paces, then beg the release team for sympathy | 10:21 |
| cjwatson | it's been a recorded/tracked work item for a while, you shouldn't have to beg to hard | 10:21 |
| cjwatson | *too | 10:22 |
| ev | cool | 10:36 |
| Kevin` | oh hm, one part of this situation actually may be in your area, although it's from upstream debian: the installer won't let you select to use a disk unpartitioned unless there's already a filesystem on it. normally people just ask 'wtf would you want to do that', but it makes management a ton easier, and disk alignment a non-issue for weird storage | 10:38 |
| Kevin` | or I just don't know how to use the partitioner | 10:38 |
| Kevin` | :) | 10:38 |
| ev | shtylman: I think there may be a problem with your event loop changes. I don't seem to be progressing through the install if I click next and leave the mouse pointer still. As soon as I move the mouse, the installer continues on. This is most apparent on the timezone page, where the time stops updating until I move the mouse. | 10:47 |
| cjwatson | Kevin`: mm. I do think that's probably a bug but it's not trivial to change - the UI gets very tricky. Alignment issues should be fixed in 10.04 though | 10:59 |
| Kevin` | what did you do to fix the alignment problem, query the disk for it's sector size (for eg the new consumer drives), or just pick a more sane default then the ms-dos standard that's actually a multiple of anything besides 512? | 11:03 |
| cjwatson | Kevin`: modern parted queries the disk; it defaults to 1MiB if it doesn't get specific information | 11:18 |
| cjwatson | the legacy DOS standard is cylinder alignment, i.e. 63*512 | 11:19 |
| Kevin` | sounds good :) | 11:19 |
| cjwatson | shtylman: if debian/changelog isn't UNRELEASED at the top, then you need to create a *new* entry, not add to the existing one | 11:26 |
| * cjwatson fixes | 11:28 | |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r4031 ubiquity/debian/changelog: fix changelog | 11:28 |
| ev | dch -U does this magically for you if this is a native package (ubiquity is) | 11:53 |
| ev | for what it's worth, bug 553184 is the freeze exception request for oem-config/remove_extras | 11:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 553184 in ubiquity "Freeze exception request for removing extra packages in oem-config" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553184 | 11:56 |
| CIA-3 | partman-crypto: cjwatson * r696 ubuntu/ (blockdev-keygen debian/changelog): Allow preseeding partman-crypto/weak_passphrase too (LP: #546405). | 12:24 |
| CIA-3 | partman-crypto: cjwatson * r697 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 40ubuntu3 | 12:26 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: rgreening * r291 trunk/debian/changelog: Updated with LP: Bug for the QVariant issue | 13:27 |
| rgreening | ev: we really need to release usb-creator again to fix bug 553243, which makes usb-creator unusable (fix is in lp). | 13:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 553243 in usb-creator "usb-creator-kde mostly broken" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553243 | 13:30 |
| ev | rgreening: just working on some other bug fixes first. I'll upload a new version today. | 13:30 |
| * rgreening thinks I should get per package upload rights to usb-creator :P | 13:31 | |
| rgreening | hhe. cool | 13:31 |
| ev | apply | 13:31 |
| rgreening | okies, as long as we get something out. ty ev. | 13:31 |
| ev | sure thing | 13:31 |
| rgreening | ya, I probably will. | 13:31 |
| ev | let me know when you do and I'll put a good word in | 13:33 |
| rgreening | cool | 13:33 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: evand * r292 usb-creator/ (bin/usb-creator-helper debian/changelog): Encode ISO path with UTF-8 when mounting (LP: #460298). | 14:11 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: evand * r4032 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs): | 14:44 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: In oem-config, support removing packages that were not part of the | 14:44 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: base install and are not needed in the final system by preseeding | 14:44 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: oem-config/remove_extras to true (LP: #315644, LP: #553184). | 14:44 |
| shtylman | cjwatson: my bad... I thought that when I ran dch it would do the right thing :/ | 15:26 |
| shtylman | ev: no problem... we just have the user play "wack-a-mole" while it installs to ensure the mouse is always in motion | 15:26 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: a few weeks ago, you mentionned a script in the installer which takes arguments like "disk" or "cd" and returns the devices detected on the system. where was that script again? | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | list-devices | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | if you want the source, it's in the debian-installer-utils source package | 15:29 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: after having a quick look at the script, it seems that it relies on ID_TYPE output by udevadm. however, this environment variable is not set when using virtio devices in kvm :( | 15:40 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: rgreening * r293 trunk/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Update version info to 0.2.21 in preparation for release. | 15:59 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: rgreening * r294 trunk/debian/ (changelog control): Add explicit version requirement to depend on latest usb-creator-gtk for usb-creator. | 16:10 |
| ev | rgreening: ^ why? | 16:32 |
| rgreening | ev: a bug on upgrade from old usb-creator meta would be satisfied with an old usb-creator-gtk and not the latest, which it should | 16:33 |
| rgreening | it certainly doesn't hurt | 16:34 |
| rgreening | as we expect it to be that version anyway | 16:34 |
| ev | huh? usb-creator is a virtual package. It's job is to simply install usb-creator-gtk, which will be updated on its own | 16:34 |
| rgreening | hmm.. didn't seem to work in at least on case | 16:35 |
| rgreening | dunno why | 16:35 |
| ev | is there a bug number for this? | 16:35 |
| rgreening | 1 sec. | 16:35 |
| rgreening | ev: it was in comment to this bug 503808 | 16:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 503808 in usb-creator "usb-creator-gtk does not start (GtkFrontend instance has no attribute 'cancelbutton')" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/503808 | 16:36 |
| ev | okay, I can see the utility in that | 16:37 |
| ev | sorry for the tough questions, I just want to be sure we're just fixing serious bugs at this point :) | 16:38 |
| rgreening | :) | 16:38 |
| rgreening | no prob | 16:38 |
| rgreening | I fixed the version too | 16:38 |
| rgreening | :) | 16:39 |
| rgreening | ev: how close are you to pumping out a release? we really need usb-creator-kde working for the beta | 16:40 |
| ev | rgreening: I'll do it now | 16:41 |
| ev | and ubiquity while I'm at it | 16:41 |
| rgreening | cool. | 16:41 |
| rgreening | ty ev. | 16:41 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: evand * r295 usb-creator/po/ (40 files): update-po | 16:43 |
| superm1 | ev, looks about right to me. i'm curious what happens if you pull ubiquity and oem-config out from under their feet at that time though? hasn't everything not been loaded into memory by then? | 16:44 |
| ev | superm1: in the event that we someday decide to open a file shipped with ubiquity after that point | 16:44 |
| ev | was just being cautious | 16:44 |
| superm1 | it is a kind of unfortunate experience that it done in the shell script for oem-config-firstboot right now, because after that pretty oem-config wizard gets done it drops you to a black screen with the machine spinning for a minute or two | 16:45 |
| ev | and you might not want them removed, if you set the preseed accordingly | 16:45 |
| ev | hm | 16:45 |
| ev | perhaps we could meet halfway by involving plymouth? | 16:46 |
| superm1 | so if it doesn't "break" it would be better if that preseed's logic was moved into the same place as all this remove extras logic | 16:46 |
| superm1 | yeah that would probably be sufficient too | 16:46 |
| ev | Looking at the code, I don't have a strong feeling either way. cjwatson? | 16:49 |
| cjwatson | I'm not sure I follow the question | 16:51 |
| superm1 | the question is moving the code to remove oem-config from oem-config-firstboot into remove_extras (pulling the feet from under oem-config/ubiquity, hopefully it all being in memory at that point) or adding some plymouth magic to not show a black screen after oem-config is done before gdm comes up while it's removed there | 16:54 |
| superm1 | if the former is selected, oem-config/late_command would need to be moved up too | 16:55 |
| cjwatson | oh, right | 16:55 |
| cjwatson | I'm dubious that it will actually work reliably; I'm OK with it if it does | 16:55 |
| cjwatson | I don't like relying on things being in cache more than we have to, especially for memory-hungry things like ubiquity | 16:56 |
| cjwatson | on a possibly related note, I was working on splitting out a ubiquity-common package, which might reduce the impact of having oem-config remain installed | 16:56 |
| cjwatson | and would be useful to avoid a bunch of dependencies - but I haven't finished that yet | 16:57 |
| superm1 | it's still loading all sorts of debconf templates after that point of remove_extras, so i'm starting to think it wouldn't work properly either | 16:57 |
| cr3 | when installing ubuntu-server on kvm with virtio, /bin/list-devices disk returns nothing and yet it installs just fine on /dev/vda. how does the installer find the disk if not using list-devices? | 16:58 |
| cjwatson | it normally does use list-devices, and IMO it's a bug that it doesn't work there - I'll investigate when I have time | 17:00 |
| cjwatson | but in some cases it uses parted_devices instead | 17:00 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: parted_devices works on kvm with virtio, fyi | 17:02 |
| ev | could use another set of eyes on this (internet connectivity check for update link) - http://paste.ubuntu.com/407636/ | 17:05 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: where does parted_devices come from? it doesn't seem to be in debian-insaller nor debian-installer-utils | 17:07 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: it seems to be part of ubiquity but I'm installing ubuntu-server. does ubuntu-server now use ubiquity? | 17:08 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: rgreening * r296 trunk/ (debian/changelog usbcreator/frontends/kde/frontend.py): | 17:31 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: * Get rid of the needs-format warning for now. It was always shown | 17:31 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: for parent block devices and the confusing resulting from that was | 17:31 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: quite bad. This was previously done for gtk but not kde version. | 17:31 |
| ev | cjwatson, superm1: could one of you sort out a ubiquity upload? I was hoping to squeeze in that internet connectivity check, but I've got to run to catch a train down south. | 17:45 |
| ev | have a great weekend | 17:45 |
| ev | rgreening: I *think* I've sorted the usb-creator upload | 17:45 |
| ev | see the irclogs.ubuntu.com page for #ubuntu-release for the details | 17:45 |
| rgreening | If you need help getting it though, I can poke Riddell | 17:46 |
| rgreening | :) | 17:46 |
| rgreening | ev: ty | 17:48 |
| cjwatson | cr3: parted_devices> partman-base source package | 17:51 |
| cjwatson | cr3: no, ubuntu-server doesn't use ubiquity; ubiquity incorporates partman-base | 17:52 |
| kusum | cjwatson: Wubi will not work when ported to linux OS with no ntfs support right or is there a turn around ? | 17:53 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: superm1 * r4033 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.2.13 | 17:54 |
| cjwatson | kusum: I don't see how you could work around the lack of NTFS, given that the point of Wubi is to include support for installing inside Windows filesystems which are normally NTFS! | 17:55 |
| cjwatson | kusum: ntfs-3g shouldn't be that hard to incorporate | 17:55 |
| kusum | if we integrate ntfs-3g getting wubi working shouldnt be a hard task right ? | 17:56 |
| cjwatson | about as hard as I explained :-) | 17:59 |
| cjwatson | it's not trivial software | 17:59 |
| kusum | yeah | 17:59 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: rgreening * r297 trunk/ (debian/changelog usbcreator/frontends/kde/frontend.py): | 19:18 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: * Get rid of the needs-format warning for now. It was always shown | 19:18 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: for parent block devices and the confusing resulting from that was | 19:18 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: quite bad. This was previously done for gtk but not kde version. | 19:18 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: * Update kde frontend format option to match gtk frontend/backend | 19:18 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: (LP: #553460) | 19:18 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: * Add warning dialog to format button for usb-creator-kde, to match gtk. | 19:18 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: rgreening * r298 trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Update version strings for next release: 0.2.22 (let's try and be consistent) | 19:35 |
| CIA-3 | usb-creator: rgreening * r299 trunk/ (debian/changelog usbcreator/frontends/kde/frontend.py): Add BusyCursor to kde frontend while format operation is underway. | 20:00 |
| shtylman | ev: what do you think we should do about the event stuff? how do you handle the tight loop on the gtk side? | 21:06 |
| kusum | anybody knows when can i find xivulon online ?? | 21:07 |
| kusum | If somebody knows please answer | 21:07 |
| CIA-3 | grub-installer: cjwatson * r851 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog grub-installer): (log message trimmed) | 23:45 |
| CIA-3 | grub-installer: Historically, Ubuntu's default behaviour in the absence of command-line | 23:45 |
| CIA-3 | grub-installer: arguments to the installer has been to pass 'splash' to the installed | 23:45 |
| CIA-3 | grub-installer: system so that it gets a splash screen (and similarly 'quiet'). There's | 23:45 |
| CIA-3 | grub-installer: some argument that this behaviour should require passing 'splash' to the | 23:45 |
| CIA-3 | grub-installer: installer as well, but it's too late in the Lucid cycle for this change. | 23:45 |
| CIA-3 | grub-installer: Nevertheless, we need a way to configure images such that they don't get | 23:45 |
| CIA-3 | grub-installer: cjwatson * r852 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.49ubuntu10 | 23:47 |
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