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crimsunJFo: do you happen to have access to an identical model ThinkPad as the reporter's in #548661?01:23
crimsun(I'm not convinced that it's a kernel issue)01:24
JFocrimsun, I don't, but I can find out if someone else does03:43
crimsunJFo: much obliged03:55
JFomy pleasure03:57
crimsunI'm attempting to shift my work schedule to accomodate her responses, but it's difficult03:57
JFoyeah, :-/ UK time...03:58
JohnFluxsmb: hey :)08:22
smbJohnFlux, Not here right now. I haven't had my first coffee. :-P 08:23
JohnFluxsmb: :-)08:23
JohnFluxsmb: we added support for my driver to the kernel...  do you know roughly when that means I can use that kernel and be able to have the nvidia drivers?08:23
JohnFluxsmb: I'm just being spoilt now :-)08:24
JohnFluxsmb: getting the nvidia drivers isn't a high priority, just a niceity08:24
smbJohnFlux, your id quirk should have been in since around this Monday. "The" nvidia drivers I fail to make a connection to right now08:25
JohnFluxsmb: yes, quite possibly my question is nonsense.  At the moment I have a "custom" kernel.  Can I install the proprietary nvidia drivers?08:28
JohnFluxsmb: actually I should just stop bothering you and go google08:29
smbJohnFlux, I think I saw Alberto tell people they are "safe" now. 08:29
JohnFluxcool08:29
JohnFluxsmb: the nvidia drivers gave an error when installing, but worked anyway08:57
JohnFluxsmb: thanks for the help08:57
smbJohnFlux, Sounds good. Welcome.08:58
smbhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/53965509:04
ubot3Malone bug 539655 in linux "nouveau hard lockup in nouveau_gem_ioctl_cpu_fini" [Medium,Triaged] 09:04
apwhttp://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/48906/10:14
Kevin`hi, cjwatson says this should be handled here, so: simple fix to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/16036610:19
ubot3Malone bug 160366 in linux "Add xen netboot support" [Wishlist,Triaged] 10:19
Kevin`03:30 < cjwatson> xen-blkfront should go in scsi-modules, and xen-netfront  should go in nic-modules10:20
Kevin`03:31 < cjwatson> (feel free to copy and paste that)10:20
Kevin`to be clear, a seperate version of the installer isn't needed, like the original author suggested10:23
smbKevin`, Ok, yeah. So just those two. Should be doable. Thanks10:27
Kevin`np :)10:28
Kevin`might be proper to include the framebuffer/keyboard interface, assuming it isn't already included. I don't know if there's a way to do a graphical netboot install anyway though?10:32
Kevin`I certainly never do10:32
apw *      <xres>x<yres>[M][R][-<bpp>][@<refresh>][i][m][eDd]13:38
apwvideo=VGA1:stuff13:39
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tseliotmjg59: I'm getting this with the open radeon driver "ACPI: ACPI brightness control misses _BQC function" with a Mobility Radeon HD 4200 (1002:9712). No backlight for me?14:42
tseliotwell, backlight management14:42
mjg59tseliot: Lacking _BQC won't inherently result in missing ACPI backlight14:46
mjg59Do you have anything in /sys/class/backlight?14:46
tseliotmjg59: yes, I have /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/ but my problem is that dimming the backlight freezes X14:47
mjg59tseliot: Unrelated to the kernel message, then14:47
mjg59Probably implemented via some SMI that interacts badly with the native driver. What machine is this?14:48
tseliotmjg59: it's an Inspiron14:48
tseliotdell inspiron14:48
mjg59What model?14:49
tseliotmjg59: fglrx gets this right14:49
mjg59Still via the acpi_video backlight?14:50
tseliotmjg59: it's from series 11, I can't say more14:50
tseliotmjg59: ah, that's a good question but I don't how fglrx works14:51
mjg59That makes fixing things difficult14:52
mjg59You're best going via Dell, then. They'll be able to work out what the BIOS is doing14:52
tseliotmjg59: can it be a BIOS issue?14:52
mjg59Given that it works with fglrx, it's clearly a radeon bug14:53
tseliotok, thanks for your help14:53
mjg59But if it's via an SMI call, there's no way to work out what the BIOS is doing14:53
mjg59It's probably writing to some chip register directly14:54
mjg59And failing for one reason or another14:54
tseliotoh14:54
mjg59Due to a difference in chip setup between radeon and fglrx14:55
mjg59But without knowing what it's doing, fixing this is difficult14:55
mjg59You presumably can't send me the acpidump14:55
mjg59And even if you could, it'd probably just show an SMI trigger14:55
mjg59So you'll need to ask Dell what the backlight setting is doing, and then work out why that conflicts with radeon14:55
tseliotok, I'll definitely ask Dell, thanks14:57
mjg59tseliot: Note that the correct fix for this is *not* a bios update14:59
mjg59The bug is definitely in radeon, and that's where the fix should be14:59
tseliotmjg59: yes, we should fix radeon after seeing what's going on14:59
tseliotgot it14:59
cndis there a place where bugs that weren't picked up for lucid are monitored for M?16:04
cndThere's bug 333990, which should be a simple config option in the kernel, and I don't want it to forget about it for M like seems to have happened since jaunty16:05
ubot3Malone bug 333990 in linux "[Karmic]Please enable PCI express ASPM (powersave)" [Medium,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33399016:05
cndIs the Ubuntu later milestone used for such purposes?16:06
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crimsunbjf: my inbox exploded thanks to the tagging. Had to add another filter. :-)23:11
bjf:-)23:12
crimsunso, we could probably halve these mic bugs by doing these two things:23:13
crimsun1) making sure *Mic Boosts are raised to max23:13
crimsun2) grepping the HDA codec dumps to make sure the correct init is made23:14
crimsun(and of course the underlying init keeps changing from under me...)23:14
bjfack23:14

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