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Rafael_jeffesquivel: this is what i get: http://pastebin.com/xY5wR2Ly00:01
jeffesquivelRafael_, ok, try this first: sudo apt-get install smbfs00:02
Psi-JackAlrighty. I have a couple quick questions regarding UEC.. What is the Walrus storage service, and Storage controller?00:03
Rafael_jeffesquivel: i have samba install since i ave done that command in the past00:05
jeffesquivelRafael_, hmm... smbfs is not part of the samba package, are you sure you have it installed?00:10
jeffesquivelRafael_, in that case... I thnk the problem may be that you are trying to specify the full path inside the share...00:11
jeffesquivelRafael_, how about sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.106/DRG /home/rgotten/charts.windows -o username=xxx,password=xxx  ?00:11
jeffesquivelRafael_, did it work?00:15
Rafael_jeffesquivel: thanks i got it it is: sudo mount -t cifs -o username=xxxx,password=xxx //192.168.1.106/Charts /home/rgotten/charts.windows00:23
jeffesquivelRafael_, great!00:24
Rafael_by00:24
jeffesquivelRafael_, just in case... you can see the name of the shares on that server with: smbclient -L //192.168.1.106/00:25
Rafael_thanks a lot00:26
jeffesquivelRafael_, you're welcome00:27
jeffesquivelbbl00:37
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uvirtbotNew bug: #483427 in bridge-utils (main) "if-pre-up.d script points to script in /usr" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48342701:47
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cefanyone got any hints on setting up serial console access for a KVM guest (serial in the guest, and configuring KVM/libvirt)?02:16
cefbtw: http://tinyurl.com/ubuntuserv is broken02:16
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dlynesI've tried adding kernel parameters to /etc/grub.d/10_linux, and then running grub-mkconfig, but it doesn't seem to spit out my new kernel parameters03:27
dlynesIs there a trick I need to know to get it to work?03:27
twbdlynes: you should add parameters in /etc/default/grub-pc or so03:27
twbUnless you're still using GRUB Legacy.03:28
dlynestwb, No such file or directory03:28
twbAlso, I've always used update-grub, not grub-mkconfig.  I don't have a system that's still using grub in front of me, so I can't check what the difference is.03:28
twbdlynes: /etc/default/grub?03:29
David5Enter text here...sdfasdfsdf03:29
David5Hello03:29
David5???03:29
dlynestwb, great....thanks03:29
dlynestwb, I've only used regular ubuntu and debian up until this point, and never had to do any kernel configuration on ubuntu before03:30
dlynestwb, is ubuntu server that much different from regular ubuntu?03:30
Xodiac13i need help on being able to get my ext hdd to do raid 0 with the internal hdd i mounted the ext hdd and i can get into it and it adds more space i just ran out of space on the internal hdd and it wont transfer more files onto the ext hdd i need help so i can put it on the ext hdd03:30
twbdlynes: the differences are primarily in the list of installed packages, and (on some architectures and releases) the default kernel variant.03:31
dlynestwb, it was /etc/default/grub03:31
dlynestwb, ah03:31
Xodiac13  i have a my share but seems to be full but it still has 300 gigs left and i also formatted it to a ext303:31
dlynestwb, so there might be a few kernel tweaks in the server edition that aren't in the regular edition?03:31
twbdlynes: it is more that one will be configured with a server in mind, and the other with desktops in mind.03:32
dlynestwb, ah03:32
Xodiac13any help please03:32
twbFor example, a desktop kernel might be built with a faster interrupt cycle, so that it seems more "responsive"03:32
dlynestwb, And the server editions aren't named the same way as the regular ones?03:32
dlynesi.e. jaunty, karmic, ...?03:32
Xodiac13me03:33
twbdlynes: an Ubuntu release includes both desktop and server bits.03:33
dlynesXodiac13, can you break up your question into several sentences?  I'm having trouble understanding that one long run-on sentence03:33
dlynestwb, ah03:33
Xodiac13dlynes: i have an ubuntu server 8.04 64bit and my internal harddrive is full i formatted a 320 gig external harddrive to ext3 and i mounted it successfully in the command line i can see inside of the external harddrive but when i try to transfer files it said its full even though on the server it shows the added space is there anyway i can fix this with raid 0 or make a directory from the myshare to the external harddrive03:35
dlynesXodiac13, what does raid anything have to do with your problem?03:36
dlynesXodiac13, Can you pastebin the output of df, after you've formatted and mounted the external hard drive?03:36
twbXodiac13: RAID will not fix your problem.03:36
Xodiac13dlynes: i figured it might solve the problem because it combines the space on the server including the external03:36
Xodiac13twb o okay how can i fix it03:36
dlynesXodiac13, no, it does not03:36
twbXodiac13: is "myshare" a product name?03:36
dlynesXodiac13, you're thinking of LVM, not raid03:37
Xodiac13twb its the folder that the windows computers can see to add files03:37
Xodiac13dlynes how can i use LVM03:37
dlynesXodiac13, i'm far from being an expert on lvm (I have no idea how to set it up), but you set up an LVM, and add volumes to it03:37
twbXodiac13: please pastebin the contents of /proc/partitions and /proc/mounts, and the output of "df -m".03:37
Xodiac13twb okay03:38
dlynesXodiac13, however, I think the lvm needs to be created first, and the drives need to be in the lvm before you start using them03:38
dlynesXodiac13, but don't quote me on that03:38
Xodiac13dylnes k03:38
Xodiac13twb im somewhat very familiar with ubuntu but what you just have me do in the output of df-m03:38
Xodiac13i mean df -m03:39
twbYou can use "man df" to find out about the df program.03:39
Xodiac13twb sigh okay03:39
dlynesXodiac13, it sounds like you'd probably gain a lot by hanging out in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-beginners a while, too03:40
dlynesInteresting03:40
Xodiac13sorry my bad yeah thanks dylen all im trying to do is ask for help not critism i ask a simple question and you end up lectuaring me03:41
dlynesXodiac13, i wasn't lecturing anyone...perhaps you misinterpreted my intent03:42
Xodiac13dlynes obviously i did i would like help please and i am willing to learn03:42
ScottKXodiac13: I just read the backscroll and I don't think he was lecturing you.03:43
dlynesXodiac13, I've asked for the output of 'df', and twb's asked for the output of 'df -m' and 'cat /proc/partitions' and 'cat /proc/mounts', and we haven't seen it yet03:43
dlynesXodiac13, throw the output of those on http://pastebin.ca/ or something similar03:43
Xodiac13ScottK well if i cant even get an answer and all i here is dumb comments03:43
ScottKXodiac13: They've asked you for information to help solve your problem.03:44
ScottKIf the questions don't make sense to you, ask more questions instead of reacting.03:44
Xodiac13http://pastebin.com/259ng1Vd03:45
Xodiac13ScottK sorry im a little hotheaded03:45
ScottKXodiac13: Happens to all of us now and then.03:45
dlynesXodiac13, and what is sda and sdc?03:45
Xodiac13ScottK lol03:45
Xodiac13dlynes sda is the internal harddrive and sdc is the external harddrive03:46
Xodiac13http://pastebin.com/0Prt4eFb03:46
dlynesXodiac13, ok, and where is your normal directory for your windows clients?03:47
Xodiac13http://pastebin.com/MCgkn64m03:47
Xodiac13dylnes myshare is on the ubuntu server for all the files so the windows computers can see it03:48
dlynesXodiac13, which is where?03:48
Xodiac13sorry03:48
dlynesXodiac13, /opt/myshare?03:48
Xodiac13i made a myshare on the ubuntu server using samba so any computer can see it on the network03:48
dlynesXodiac13, again....where is myshare located within the directory structure on your ubuntu server?03:49
Xodiac13yes03:49
Xodiac13http://pastebin.com/grq7rfWc03:49
Xodiac13its located in the link it shows where its at03:50
dlynesoh...it's off your root directory03:50
Xodiac13dylnes yes03:50
dlynespastebin the output of 'ls -l / | grep myshare' and 'ls -l /mnt/extdisk'03:51
Xodiac13k03:51
Xodiac13http://pastebin.com/fPj05q6b03:52
Xodiac13http://pastebin.com/RjVi1aJz03:52
dlynesXodiac13, sorry.... 'ls -al /mnt/extdisk', I meant03:53
Xodiac13http://pastebin.com/1cyxtz0X03:53
dlynesXodiac13, ok...try the following:  'mv /myshare/* /mnt/extdisk', and then pastebin the output (if it doesn't work), including your shell prompt03:55
Xodiac13dlynes k03:55
Xodiac13dlynes so its copying all the files to the extdisk?03:57
dlynesXodiac13, i'm guessing that means it's working?03:57
Xodiac13dlynes yes03:57
Xodiac13dlynes sorry for me being hotheaded im in the Marine Corps and thats just the way we are03:58
Xodiac13dlynes at least me lol03:58
Xodiac13dlynes im a grunt03:58
dlynesXodiac13, ok...now you need to update your samba config so that the exported folder is pointing at /mnt/extdisk instead of /myshare03:58
Xodiac13dlynes i need help on that im kind of a newb with ubuntu server03:59
dlynesXodiac13, and I don't have time to help you with that tonight...it's actually bed time for me03:59
Xodiac13dlynes nooooo03:59
Xodiac13dlynes and for what you were going to help me on would it point it to the ext drive and the internal03:59
dlynesXodiac13, what it's doing right now is moving all the files out of the /myshare directory and dropping them into the /mnt/extdisk directory04:00
dlynesXodiac13, after it's finished, you'll see a whole bunch of free disk space on /04:00
dlynesXodiac13, if you do a 'df -m' afterwards04:00
Xodiac13dlynes nice and now will i be able to get the files from the ext drive04:01
dlynesXodiac13, anyways...suffice it to say, the information is in /etc/samba/smb.conf usually04:01
Xodiac13okay04:01
dlynesXodiac13, so after you make any changes to that file, you'll need to do an /etc/init.d/samba restart04:01
Xodiac13now the internal harddrive will be free so i can add files to that now04:01
dlynescorrect04:01
Xodiac13nice04:01
dlynesbut not that get exported to the network04:02
dlynesthey'll be local files04:02
dlynes/mnt/extdisk will be the network files04:02
dlynesbut like i said...you need to update smb.conf and restart samba before anyone sees those changes04:02
Xodiac13so i will see the extdisk when i go to the myshare obviously but not the internal so i can add more files04:02
Xodiac13okay04:02
kirklandRoAkSoAx: pong04:03
dlynesXodiac13, anyways..pastebin the contents of your /etc/samba/smb.conf file and maybe someone will be able to help you04:03
Xodiac13dlynes k thanks man04:03
dlynesXodiac13, i would suggest trying it on #ubuntu or #ubuntu-beginners though, instead...there's a lot more people in boht of those channels04:03
dlynesXodiac13, your questions will get answered faster there04:03
Xodiac13dlynes okay thank you i really do appreciate it04:04
dlynesXodiac13, this channel's mainly for people that have ubuntu server edition-specific questions04:04
Xodiac13dlynes nice04:04
dlynesXodiac13, and the help you need, isn't server specific..all ubuntu distributions have those issues04:04
Xodiac13dlynes o okay thank you04:05
Xodiac13dlynes so in the samba config file what am i looking for to change so that i can use both the internal and external04:07
cefanyone dealt much with serial consoles with libvirt/kvm? I can't seem to get any working, and I suspect it's a host issue (libvirt domain defines)04:07
Xodiac13dlynes im not looking at it right now its transfering files so yeah04:07
twbcef: what the actual error?04:08
ceftwb: every time i edit the domain info and put in a <serial or <console entry, it drops the <source element, and rewrites the <target element - plus the kvm command line has '-serial none' in it, so it's like it's totally ignoring the config options04:12
ceftwb: fwiw: the machine the domains are running on is headless, and it isn't connected to a network with a gui box on it that I can use as a VNC console04:15
ceftwb: the getty is running fine in the guest, but I can't figure out how to get the host to expose it somehow. preferably through 'virsh console domainname' would be best04:16
twbcef: everything you've said makes sense to me, and I don't know more.04:23
twbcef: you could try the libvirt channel (#virt?)04:24
ceftwb: yeah that's next.. I tried #ubuntu-virt earlier. no response (2 hrs ago I think)04:24
cefactually only 1 hr ago04:25
cefoh fun, #virt is locked it seems04:25
cefoh fun, #libvirt is locked it seems04:25
twbMaybe OFTC04:26
cefno.. just #virt.. only 5 people in #libvirt04:26
cefyeah just looking thru the wiki/libvirt site now (been using it all day)04:26
twbcef: remember to STAY IN THE CHANNEL.04:26
cefyup irc.oftc04:27
twbcef: if you ask in #ubuntu-virt and then leave an hour later, you might miss a response from an hour-and-a-half later when someone wakes up04:27
ceftwb: oh I'm still in both #ubuntu-virt and here..04:27
cefI idle in there 24/704:27
twbOK, /whois lied to me.04:27
cef+c on the channel afaik04:27
twbcef: incidentally, have you played with lxc at all?04:35
ceftwb: not really.. I've got it installed I think04:39
cefthis console issue is my main stumbling block to getting this machine live.. and yeah.. it's creating a hassle for me at work.. *sigh*04:40
cefdon't really have the time to play with lxc before it goes live.. mebbe after04:40
twblxc is for jails, whereas kvm is for full emulation04:41
twbThey're orthogonal04:41
codygmani'm trying to setup postfix on my server, and thought i did everything right, but it's not sending mail.07:47
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codygmanit seems like after executing 'mail -s subject myemail' the process keeps running07:48
twbWhen testing, use SMTP or sendmail(8) directly.07:48
codygmanoh... alright i'll try using sendmail07:49
killownubuntu-server is better than centos?07:49
twbNote that sendmail-the-api is not the same as sendmail-the-package07:49
Callum__killown: not necessarily better, both can do different things in different ways07:50
twbkillown: mu.07:50
killowni need some linux distro for server07:50
Callum__I prefer the RPM package manager but I like the fact that Ubuntu Server is updated much more frequently and uses later versions of software07:50
twbI'm astonished that anyone who has studied the internals of rpm/yum and dpkg/apt can prefer the former.07:53
Callum__twb: I dunno, I just prefer it... I don't have any technical reasons as to why, apart from maybe a secure RPM repository is a LOT easier to set up than a SecureApt repository (STILL haven't figured it out yet)07:54
twbCallum__: erm, you just build a normal repo, but you sign it with your key.07:55
twbIf you're using a PPA or so, I think that part is taken care of automatically anyway07:55
* jeffesquivel agrees with twb07:55
twbCallum__: see e.g. http://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository07:55
Callum__twb: yeah, but it still says in apt-get that its not secure >_>07:56
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twbCallum__: either you did it wrong, or you didn't install your key into the apt client.07:56
Callum__and I have the key installed on every machine I try to use the repo with...07:56
Callum__hell, the repo doesn't even appear as secure on the machine that signs the packages07:57
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codygmancan you send email on a server without having a domain name yet?08:02
twbThat would depend on where you're sending it to.08:11
twbIf you're talking about a smarthost, it's pretty common for its correspondents to reject your mail if your EHLO host doesn't resolve.08:12
twbObviously satellites are a pushover, because it's only talking to your local mail gateway server.08:12
codygmantwb.. i'm just trying to setup mailing for my django site :P08:14
codygmani'm still in development, so I don't want to switch the dns on my domain name yet08:14
sherrcodygman: If you are just wanting to send email, SSMTP (simple smtp) might be easier for a novice.08:16
codygmanalright, i am pretty new to having my own server :D08:17
jeffesquivelcodygman, how about use an existing account on an existing mail server to send the messages?08:19
codygmanjeffesquivel.. you mean like using gmail?08:19
twbI have had bad experiences with ssmtp08:19
jeffesquivelcodygman, exactly08:19
twbFor roaming laptops, I can recommend msmtp.08:20
twbI'd use postfix for a server, though.08:20
codygmantwb.. i'm trying to, I think i'm configuring it wrong08:21
jeffesquivelcodygman, but it can be an account on any mail server you have an account already set up, not necessarily gmail08:21
codygmansince i don't have a domain, i'm not sure what to put08:21
codygmanor maybe i forgot to open port 2508:21
twbYou only need to open port 25 to RECEIVE mail08:22
jiboumansmorning folks08:32
codygmanhostname -f keeps telling me this:09:08
codygmanhostname: Unknown host09:08
codygmanthe contents of my hostname file is:09:09
codygman127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.localdomain runningshoesreview.org09:09
twbcodygman: that's wrong.09:09
twbYou should have "127.0.0.1 localhost" and "127.0.1.1 www www.example.net"09:10
twbYou can have "localhost.localdomain" after "localhost", it shouldn't matter much with/without it.  But the hostname and FQDN should be the first two entries.09:10
twb(The first two entries in whichever line they're on, that is.)09:11
codygmanalright here are all three lines:09:11
codygmancodygman09:11
codygman127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.localdomain09:11
codygman127.0.1.1 www www.runningshoesreview.org09:11
twbRight.09:11
codygmanalright good :)09:11
twbNow if "hostname" returns "www", then "hostname -f" should return "www.runningshoesreview.org"09:12
codygmanis there a book you'd recommend for this type of stuff btw?09:12
twbcodygman: best I can do is /join #debian-bots, /msg dpkg grounding09:13
codygmanalright cool09:15
codygmanbtw, my mailing seems to be working after that09:15
twbIt's just stuff you pick up over time09:15
RoAkSoAxttx, howdy!! i was wndering what would happen if one of the controllers of the cloud, i.e. cloud controller, fails09:44
RoAkSoAxwould the cloud stop working>?09:44
ttxRoAkSoAx: depends on which controller you lose09:45
RoAkSoAxttx, lets say the cloud controller09:45
RoAkSoAxwould everything fail?09:45
ttxRoAkSoAx: VMs continue running09:45
ttxRoAkSoAx: you just can't send new commands09:46
ttx(euca-* commands calling the web services on the CLC)09:46
RoAkSoAxttx, and is there a way to have many controllers for failover ?09:46
twbNot even the "abort!" command? ;-)09:47
ttxRoAkSoAx: not yet.09:47
RoAkSoAxttx, so i guess eucalyptus guys are working on it already?>09:48
RoAkSoAxttx, because i was thinking that it could actually done by using the cluster stack, but creating resource agents to manage the starting/stopping of the resources, such as a cloud controller09:54
RoAkSoAxthough they would have to be clones09:54
Psi-JackHeh, blah.09:59
Psi-JackTrying out beta1 of Ubuntu-Server 10.4.. Can't seem to get ANY of the UEC Store items to install.09:59
alvinI just stumbled on bug 360038. Is this even possible? Does Ubuntu has an RDP server for X?10:11
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 360038 in rdesktop "cannot connect from Jaunty to Intrepid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36003810:11
_rubenrdp, doubt it .. vnc, sure .. not on a server though10:13
_ruben(havent read the actual bug)10:13
uvirtbotNew bug: #448705 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 "akonadi server doesn't start at login" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44870510:26
Psi-JackHmmm.10:29
case_hi there10:33
Psi-JackMorning.10:33
case_i'm trying to setup a cloud using the 10.04 beta CD, is it the right place to ask my questions?10:33
Psi-JackSure. If anyone were actually around to help. Been asking for questions about UEC for days, and nobody seems to be interested or knowledgable to help.10:34
case_:)10:35
Psi-JackHeck.10:35
Psi-JackI'm just trying to figure out what's required just to make UEC work proper..10:35
Psi-JackAs far as, does it use image files for all the kvm's installed by the store, or what.10:36
Psi-JackFor a vm box, I usually keep / down to 10-15gb tops.10:36
RoyKPsi-Jack: there was someone in here a couple of days ago that seemd quite knowledgable about UEC...10:36
Psi-JackHeh10:36
Psi-JackYeah, it's rare enough to see little signs of help regarding it. ;)10:37
case_anyway, i've installed a cloud controler, then i've installed another PC as a node, which seems to have detected the cloud controler, so far so good... but once the install is finished, there is still no node listed on the controler... and no new node detected on the network...10:37
RoyKafaik I think those questions are rather well documented10:37
Psi-JackWell I recently installed UEC from 10.4 (yes, I know, beta, but hey), but it failed to install any Store image at all, and no real usable reason as to why.10:38
Psi-JackSo I'm installing 9.10 in the same manner, seeing if it makes any difference.10:39
case_then, i've installed eucalyptus-nc on my own workstation, it was detected on the cloud controler using sudo euca_conf --no-rsync --discover-nodes , but once added still no node listed by euca_conf --list-nodes10:39
case_Psi-Jack, i managed to install store image but only with the admin login10:39
case_Psi-Jack, any other login, even with administrative rights will fail10:39
Psi-JackI used admin. ;)10:39
Psi-JackIt just failed, no matter what I did.10:40
Psi-JackProbably because of my 15 gb /, but I have a LVM VG available for all where I wanted the images to even be.10:40
Psi-JackEmpty 650 GB VG without LVs.10:40
case_should be enough...10:42
case_Psi-Jack, anyway, have you managed to setup nodes?10:42
Psi-JackNope10:42
case_hmmm10:42
case_i've just noticed i've gazillons of updates pending... may help to install them...10:45
Psi-JackDidn't help me, but hey!10:45
Psi-JackI'm installing 9.10 now. :p10:45
case_i'm sure it's a conspiracy to sell amazone ec2 ;p10:48
Psi-JackThat's fine. I could give a rats arse about Amazon hosting anything.10:49
ttxRoAkSoAx: yes, they are working on it.11:22
* ttx grabs some lunch11:22
thenetduckhey when I put in sudo pdnsd-ctl empty-cache it says the command isn't found11:34
thenetduckhow can I fix that?11:35
killownubuntu is good for server?11:37
\shkillown, no use windows 7 for server...ubuntu is only good for the desktop11:37
killownlol funny11:38
RoyKkillown: we have 40+ linux servers at work and we're in the process of moving them all to Ubuntu 8.04 LTS11:40
RoyKperhaps 10.04 LTS when that comes around, don't know yet11:40
killownand 910?11:41
killownand 9.10?11:41
RoyKthat's not an LTS11:41
RoyKlong term support release11:41
killownok11:41
RoyKwe only use LTS on servers11:41
killowndo you try centos?11:41
RoyKyeah, and I don't like it, but I guess that's mostly taste11:41
RoyKI like the managability in ubuntu11:42
RoyKand the package availability11:42
RoyKthere are some 23k packages available, last I checked11:42
killownstable packages?11:42
RoyKlemme check11:43
RoyKof course there will be bugs around, also in these "stable" packages. you get what you're paying for, and it's free...11:44
RoyK$ apt-cache search "" | wc -l11:44
RoyK2531711:44
RoyKthat includes metapackages, kernels and so on, but it's still quite a lot11:45
killownhehehehe nice11:47
RoyKthe number for 10.04 (beta) seems to be 3062811:48
RoyKit saves me LOTS of time to be able to just apt-get install most things and not compile it from scratch11:49
killowni just need a stable distro for compile from source11:49
killownhehe11:49
killownthere is many advanced things that you need enable in ./configure11:49
case_compile what from source?11:50
killownldap samba squid11:50
RoyKsome months back, before we decided to move to Ubuntu, one of the scientists came down and wanted netcdf packages and scipy and lots of other stuff that were a little tricky to get setup correctly. it'd take days to do that on one box. we switched to ubuntu and everything was ready11:50
RoyKkillown: check ubuntu packages first - most of the stuff is in there11:50
RoyKldap support in samba, for instance11:51
killownok11:51
RoyKor AD support11:51
killownnoway11:51
killownis it true?11:51
RoyKit's in there - we're using it11:51
case_killown, compiling everything from source is really not the philosophy of ubuntu...11:51
killownad suporte for instance11:51
RoyKyes11:51
Psi-JackBlah!11:51
Psi-JackUEC stuff is painfully annoying me at the moment.11:51
Psi-JackI got it to actually start an instance... It boots, it immediately shuts down afterwards.11:52
case_Psi-Jack, any trick to add a node ?11:53
Psi-JackEh?11:53
Psi-JackI'm just following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/PackageInstall11:54
case_hmmm okay thanks11:54
case_so you're having better results with 9.10 than with 10.04beta , right? even if it doesn't work yet...11:55
RoyKkillown: just download and install - try it yourself - I'd recommend 8.04 LTS for servers until 10.04 has been released _and_ has proven stable12:01
case_Psi-Jack, could you please tell me if euca_conf --list-nodes returns something for you on your cloud controler?12:02
Psi-JackNot really. I'm wiping UEC off this system. Not at all happy with how annoying this whole method is.12:02
case_hmmm okay thanks12:04
skuld_kidQuestion about logs and rotation.  Last night I discovered my hard drive was full.  Had a syslog of over 50G, syslog.1 over 25G, and a daemon log of over 80G.  How do I configure my logrotate.conf to rotate these files...I don't see anything defined for these critical logs.12:20
sherrskuld_kid: have you looked at the man page for logrotate?12:28
RoyKit should rotate weekly by default12:28
RoyKkeeping 4 weeks iirc12:28
RoyKperhaps you should check if there's a daemon filling the logs?12:28
RoyKtail -f daemon.log might be a start12:28
skuld_kidyes.12:29
RoyKsherr: it probably isn't rtfm that's the problem if a default ubuntu installation runs out of log space12:30
RoyKthere isn't that much to log, really, unless you're running a very heavily used mail server with a spambot using it or something12:31
RoyK50 gigs of logs is a LOT12:31
skuld_kidfound the problem.  mysqld:  InnoDB error: trying to access tablespace <blah> page no. 0, but the tablespace does not exsist or is just being dropped.  Anybody know what that means, or how to fix it?  I didn't think I had any InnoDBs12:31
skuld_kidyeah I know12:31
alvinShould /tmp erased at boot, or at shutdown? (in Karmic)12:32
_rubensyslogs are rotated by its own script, not by logrotate12:32
RoyKtry restarting mysql12:32
skuld_kidI tried that12:32
alvinthere's a 'be' short in that sentence12:32
RoyKhm... google for it :)12:32
alvinGot it. /tmp *should* be emptied at boot when TMPTIME=0 in /etc/default/rcS12:38
alvinNow to find out, why this isn't working...12:38
alvinFound that too: it's bug 52419612:41
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 524196 in sysvinit "TMPTIME=0 no longer clears /tmp on boot" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52419612:41
RoyKhttp://pharmama.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/fakesstest.jpg12:47
pmatulisRoyK: wrong channel?12:48
RoyK:)12:48
RoyKfunny!12:48
bogeyd6bug 29297113:07
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 292971 in libnss-ldap "nscd leaking memory using libnss-ldap" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29297113:07
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uvirtbotNew bug: #553266 in clamav (main) "Update for clamav security fixes from 0.96 release" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55326614:16
* ScottK is working on ^^^14:20
zimHi all. how can I get tab completion to work the same on the server version as on the desktop version. example apt-g{tab} ins{tab} apa{tab}14:36
_rubenzim: that works on -server as well by default14:37
zim_ruben: ok not on my version isp stock install root user what conf files do you edit to make it work14:38
_rubencomplain to your isp for providing a root shell first14:39
zimsh --> is linked to dash before you ask14:39
_rubenbut yes, root shells tend to be limited that way (never bothered to look into why)14:39
_rubenperhaps root doesnt use the global bashrc/profile stuff14:39
zimOk many thanks anyway. anyone else?14:39
zimfound it many thanks14:43
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Rafaelcan anybody help me with this: rsync: recv_generator: mkdir "/home/rgotten/Prueba/Myplasticare/Charts/charts.documents" failed: Permission denied (13)14:57
RoyKRafael: I guess filesystem permissions won't let you create it?15:01
RafaelRoyK: any idea what to do?15:09
RoyKmkdir manually15:10
RoyKcheck permissions15:10
RoyKmanually override as root if nothing else works15:10
sherrRafael: what exact rsync command are you using? Check target perms.15:14
RoyKsherr: it shouldn't be rsync's fault - the error is quite clear15:18
Rafaelsherr: this is a small srip i am running. I found one of the problems is that the  folder called Charts was created as root so i delete it and recreate it as the user, but anyway this is the sript15:19
Rafaelsherr: #!/bin/bash15:19
Rafaelrsync -v -r -d --delete /home/rgotten/Prueba/Myplasticare /home/rgotten/mnt/ >> /home/rgotten/logs/respaldo-`date +%d%m%Y`.log15:19
Rafaelrsync -v -r -d --delete /home/rgotten/charts.documents /home/rgotten/Prueba/Myplasticare/Charts >> /home/rgotten/logs/respaldo-`date +%d%m%Y`.log15:19
zulttx: ill take the phpldapadmin15:21
RoAkSoAxttx, where to find info about that or who can I talk to15:28
ttxRoAkSoAx: you can try #eucalyptus. Or talk to them at UDS :)15:28
RoAkSoAxttx, i'll try #eucalyptus first cause I was actually planning a "HA Support for UEC" session for UDS, but that is just create OCF Resource Agents to provide failover in case any of the controllers fail, however this means that the nodes have to be clones15:31
RoAkSoAxso the RA's will allow us to use the current cluster stack15:32
RoAkSoAxto do the failover15:32
RoAkSoAxover two clone machines. Data could be replicated with DRBD for example15:32
uvirtbotNew bug: #553342 in samba (main) "spnego references incorrect realm via winbind when joined to AD and spnego is enabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55334215:36
odin2I'm stuck with getting sound on my server install, I installed xmms2 and alsa; ~/.cache/xmms2: alsa cannot find card '0' - I don't know where to start to resolve the problem (I searched the forum already)15:49
sherrodin2: Sound's a desktop thing really, this is #ubuntu-server. Not really on topic ...15:54
sherrodin2: the forum's got lots of sound questions/help. If you cannot find a relevant thread, post one?15:54
bogeyd6!desktop15:55
ubottuA desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM and others - See also !Flavors15:55
bogeyd6:)15:55
bogeyd6sherr, ubuntu does have a kicking MPD install15:55
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bogeyd6sound streaming sucks through MPD tho15:56
odin2okay, was wondering if a server install doesn't support sound at all ...15:57
odin2thx15:57
bogeyd6odin2, you are correct in that is isnt supported in any way15:57
bogeyd6you will be missing muchos packages15:58
RoyKnice day today http://kernel.org/15:58
* bogeyd6 thinks it has to do with the kernel not using a sound module15:59
RoyKbogeyd6: it should be autodetected15:59
bogeyd6odin2, lspci -v | grep audio16:00
odin2VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)16:01
bogeyd6RoyK, google is doing that today too16:01
bogeyd6odin2, now do lspci -v | less16:01
bogeyd6pastebin everything about the audio controller16:01
bogeyd6!pastebin @odin216:02
bogeyd6!pastebin @ odin216:02
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:02
bogeyd6!pastebin | odin216:02
ubottuodin2: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:02
* RoyK is looking for an update on HTCPCP16:02
ttxsmoser: anything to report about euca2ools vs. boto1.9, to the euca guys ?16:03
smoserother than it went over really well.16:03
smoseri found basically nothing boto1.9 related.16:03
ttxok, so no outstanding issue on that16:03
ttxgood16:03
smoserno.16:03
smosersoon after lucid, we will have to merge our improved euca2ools16:04
smoserto theirs16:04
odin2bogeyd6, http://paste.ubuntu.com/407606/  only the sound part16:05
bogeyd6odin2, which ubuntu version?16:05
odin29.0416:05
bogeyd6hmm16:07
odin2shall I uninstall alsa and xmms2 and start over?16:09
bogeyd6did you run ALSACONF16:09
odin2no, I just installed everything alsa16:10
bogeyd6well run alsaconf16:10
bogeyd6if that dont work im outta ideas16:10
uvirtbotNew bug: #553362 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "Start script creates /var/run/mysqld with static owner" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55336216:11
ruben23hi guys can i ask help i got ubuntu-server but during boot up my system force scan my LVM VOL001 and found error and inconsistency..problem aftre it wont properly, seems like all corrupted how do i repair it and recover..16:17
ttxsmoser: do the daily EC2 images ship with ramdisk now ?16:20
ttxmathiaz: ping16:20
mathiazttx: o/16:20
ttxmathiaz: hey, two things I need to discuss with you16:21
smoserttx yes. http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/lucid/20100401/published-ec2-daily.txt16:21
ttxsmoser: great, thanks16:21
smoser(note the ari-* stuff there)16:21
ttxmathiaz: work items to postpone16:21
ttxmathiaz: there were at least two items that you should postpone if you couldn't complete them by freeze time16:21
ttxif you didn't, please mark them POSTPONED /and/ add new TODO ones for final if appropriate16:22
ruben23hi16:22
mathiazttx: will do16:22
ttxmathiaz: next is bug 55154416:22
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 551544 in puppet "puppet in lucid does not support upstart status " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55154416:23
ttxthat sounds *bad*16:23
mathiazttx: yes - I'd have to look at the upstart init script16:23
mathiazttx: bug 55278616:24
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 552786 in upstart "Lack of exit codes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55278616:24
ttxdoes it look like something we should target for beta2 ? i.e. something to work on by next week ?16:24
mathiazttx: hm - I don't consider it as a beta2 blocker16:25
mathiazttx: it should definetely be fixed for final though16:25
ttxok16:25
ttxwill target appropriately16:25
mathiazttx: that being said it doesn't mean we should push it back too long16:25
ttxmathiaz: yes, I think that's something to work on now16:25
mathiazttx: ie working on bugs targeted at final can be done before beta216:25
ttxnot just a blocker16:25
mathiazttx: agreed - it's not a blocker16:26
mathiazttx: the same way as the nss/ldap bug is not a blocker either16:26
ttxbeta2 targeting has two facets -- the bugs that need to be fixed by the milestone, but also the bug that should get fixed by the milestone16:27
ttxdepending on who targets :)16:27
ttxmathiaz: last thing (yes, I know I said only 2)16:27
ttxmathiaz: multi-network status -- I don't think the current status in the beta2 whiteboard is reflecting current situation16:28
ttxmathiaz: it's unblocked, right ?16:28
mathiazttx: well - I haven't had time to test if the netboot installer now works16:29
mathiazttx: you've reported it was able to detect block devices now16:29
ruben23guys, do i need to run fsck..? manually to repair a corrupted LVM...16:29
mathiazttx: but the wrong one16:29
ttxlet me check that again with todays status16:30
* ttx fires up magic16:30
ttxmathiaz: please make sure that status is up-to-date on your specs by EOD so that I get the right info for release meeting tomorrow16:31
mathiazttx: ok16:31
ttxmathiaz: still seems to pick up local HDD as sdb instead of sda16:32
mathiazttx: ok - I'd have to test it on the hardware DC16:32
ttxI tested ISO today and it worked alright16:32
mathiazttx: the netboot installer may be the problem16:32
ttxif you confirm it, please file bug16:32
* ttx checks if there is already one16:33
ttxdoesn't seem to be one16:35
that0n3guyhey all, I'm on a vps and usually run at about 380m of ram used... but about 30 minutes ago, its been easily over 480m (100mb difference) how can I look and see where its all going?16:38
that0n3guytop isnt much use, everything it shows is showing %0 mem usage16:39
OxymoronCould someone explain to me whats wrong with this line : LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so? Apache2 says its invalid syntax? :S16:40
cbeebieIf I install ubuntu server with automatic updates turned off, what's the proper way to turn them or (or off ) at a later stage?16:41
sherrthat0n3guy: ps / free : man ps (e.g. ps axl)16:42
cbeebiethat0n3guy: top is great! Maybe you have nothing that's using more then 1% of the memory?16:42
that0n3guycbeebie: yeah, so why is 100mg of free ram gone?  I had to add more ram to my vps just for it to ever run...16:44
that0n3guywhat kinda of things cause that?16:44
that0n3guyi've got 194mb cached...  that seems high to me but maybe not16:45
cbeebiethat0n3guy: Linux is pretty aggressive about using memory that would otherwise be free for caching and buffering16:46
sherrOxymoron: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_so.html#loadmodule16:46
sherrmaybe : relative path and module name? See docs16:46
that0n3guyI gotcha so the 100mb that was all of a sudden used might be it just is caching more b/c I added more to the syste16:48
that0n3guym16:48
Oxymoronsherr: i got this error when trying to start apache2:16:56
Oxymoronapache2: Syntax error on line 185 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory16:56
Oxymoronoxymoron@o16:56
Oxymoronlibphp5.so is in there16:56
Oxymoronsherr: I guess the name of libphp5.so should be mod_php5.so instead?16:57
ruben23hi,what happened is during boot up it force scanned the vol001 then found inconsistency then it says- to do manually repir fsck.17:19
mathiazzul: do you have daily-build of puppet?17:31
zulmathiaz: yeah the latest is being pushed out now17:32
mathiazzul: where?17:32
zulmathiaz: the script is being run on my machine and it will uploaded to a ppa but I can force it if you want17:33
RoyKwouldn't it be nice if you came home and your girlfriend pulled this at you? http://pharmama.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/fakesstest.jpg17:33
mathiazzul: and where is the puppet package published?17:33
mathiazzul: in which PPA?17:33
zulsomeone should read my blog more often ;)17:33
zulcheck on ~ubuntu-server-edgers17:34
odin2bogeyd6, thank you very much for your help - it still doesn't work yet, but at least I have hope and an idea where to go from here and that is much more than when I came in. thx again!17:37
zulmathiaz: i just pushed the latest puppet git to the ppa17:37
gamla_kossanhi guys, thought I should ask in here: does the ubuntu 9.10 live cd support ntfs?17:42
ScottKUbuntu Server doesn't have a live CD17:45
ruben23hi17:45
gamla_kossanScottK: true, but getting an intelligent answer in #ubuntu is.. well, a bit unprobable :/17:46
ScottKgamla_kossan: That doesn't make it on topic for this channel.17:47
gamla_kossanScottK: well, if you're gonna hardline about it, nevermind. have a nice life etc.17:47
jcastroScottK: fascist!17:49
jcastro:)17:49
ScottKYeah, the problem is if you answer one, then we get overrun with others.17:49
ScottKI have kids.  I know exactly how this works, "But Daaaaaaad, last time you ...."17:50
odin2:)17:50
mathiazzul: smoser: is /dev/xconsole used on EC2?18:11
zulmathiaz: I dont think so18:11
smosermathiaz, yeah, i think thats gone now18:13
smoserfrom the guest kernel18:13
smosermathiaz, at least:18:15
smoser$ ls /dev/xconsole18:15
smoserls: cannot access /dev/xconsole: No such file or directory18:15
smoserthats in a karmic guest18:15
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RobHIs this the proper channel to ask for assistance with setting up a cloud controller & node controller to run virtual instances?18:42
stickystyleI wanted to test out the JeOS install in 10.04, when I press F4 to bring up the install modes menu and select "Minimal install virtual machine" and press enter, am I supposed to get some kind of feedback that it accepted my selection?18:45
jeffesquivelhi, has anyone here used ubuntu-server to create a webdav share?18:47
RoAkSoAxkirkland, ping18:49
alvinRobH: More or less. You have ubuntu-virt for that.19:04
RobHahh, will ask there, thank you19:04
DavexorGreetings, I have a (somewhat) simple question19:08
DavexorI am attempting to set up a home server with Web and Media etc.  My issue is that i am not all that Command-line fu.  Would it be a better idea to run it off of a desktop version of ubuntu? Or to install a desktop core on the server edition?19:09
ScottKIt doesn't make a significant difference.19:10
DavexorOk, then on to my second question, How would i install a GUI on my server install?19:11
ScottKsudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.  Anything that happens after that you need to ask in #ubuntu.19:12
DavexorRock on.  thank you19:12
ruben23hi guys i have an existing tftp server on my linux server, with an ubuntu-image, how do i add up windows image on it like win 7 so i can install windows 7 on network..and make it worked..19:43
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RoAkSoAxkirkland, howdy!!21:29
kirklandRoAkSoAx: howdy ;-)21:29
RoAkSoAxkirkland, how's it going?21:29
kirklandRoAkSoAx: hacking on libvirt ;-)21:29
RoAkSoAxkirkland, wish I had the knowledge to do that too :)21:30
kirklandRoAkSoAx: heh, just takes time and a willingness to learn21:30
RoAkSoAxkirkland, i do meet the requirements lol though right now im cvrazy with last too weeks of school so I'll ping you about that later. Anyways... I wanted to ask you if you've come to a decision regarding how to obtain ubuntu+1 in testdrive?21:32
kirklandRoAkSoAx: i had a few ideas, one i liked better than others21:35
kirklandRoAkSoAx: would you do this ...21:36
kirklandRoAkSoAx: would you open a bug in Launchpad about this21:36
kirklandRoAkSoAx: mark it High/Triaged21:36
kirklandRoAkSoAx: assign it to me21:36
kirklandRoAkSoAx: and let's discuss it there21:36
kirklandRoAkSoAx: i can't chat too much right now, but i'll email it to that bug21:36
kirklandRoAkSoAx: also, others might chime in with better ideas21:37
RoAkSoAxkirkland, will do then21:37
kirklandRoAkSoAx: thanks dude21:37
RoAkSoAxnp ;)21:37
kirklandRoAkSoAx: sorry about the busy schedule21:37
kirklandRoAkSoAx: things should slow down soon ;-)21:37
RoAkSoAxkirkland, its ok... i'm busy with school anyways for this next two weeks21:38
RoAkSoAxkirkland, btw I've created two blueprints for the modularization and the Front-end for the gsoc and I guess you'll have to add mi to the testdrive group to be able to make uploads to testdrive-gtk trunk21:39
kirklandRoAkSoAx: right, sounds good21:39
kirklandRoAkSoAx: remind me of your LP id21:40
RoAkSoAxkirkland, ~andreserl21:40
kirklandRoAkSoAx: https://edge.launchpad.net/~testdrive-gtk21:42
kirklandRoAkSoAx: you're in ;-)21:42
RoAkSoAxkirkland, i know it is a pain to have different nick, lp id, and stuff :P21:42
RoAkSoAxkirkland, awesome thanks :)21:42
kirklandRoAkSoAx: heh, hard to remember at first21:42
kirklandRoAkSoAx: testdrive-gtk now owns https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~testdrive-gtk/testdrive-gtk/trunk21:43
kirklandRoAkSoAx: the code in there right now was mostly written by rickspencer as a quick rough draft21:43
kirklandRoAkSoAx: you're welcome to start from that, or scratch21:44
RoAkSoAxkirkland, i've already started from scratch, though if i knew how to handle the ubuntu+1 issue now it would be something i wouldn't hvew to worry about in the future because Im using the same code to create the list of iso's for the pygtk itnerface21:44
kirklandRoAkSoAx: cool, i'll get that for you tonight, then, if it's blocking you ;-)21:45
Xpistos|workis there a way to get my server to mail me the logs that come up in /var/mail/USER21:45
RoAkSoAxkirkland, i know that the code for the ISO list creation should be independent from the testdrive common code, so if I new how are we gonna handle the ubuntu+1 issue now, that would allow me to actually separate the code now and make it independent.21:46
kirklandjdstrand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/407717/21:50
RoAkSoAxkirkland, btw... what I was thinking is keep the config for ubuntu+1 in the config file but it can be loaded differently from the other part of the config21:52
RoAkSoAxfor example [testdrive-globals]21:52
RoAkSoAxand [testdrive-iso-list]21:52
RoAkSoAxand I can work with that in the meanwhile21:52
kirklandRoAkSoAx: okay, so here's the basic implementation21:56
kirklandRoAkSoAx: we should cache the "development" release somewhere, like /var/cache/testdrive/ubuntu-development21:57
kirklandRoAkSoAx: basically, that wget from cdimage would write the code name into there21:57
kirklandRoAkSoAx: and cache it for some amount of time (a day, at least)21:57
kirklandRoAkSoAx: and only do the wget to update that cache when it's expired21:58
kirklandRoAkSoAx: ideally, there should be some other way to get this information21:58
kirklandRoAkSoAx: perhaps ask mvo in ubuntu-devel at some point21:58
kirklandRoAkSoAx: in the config file, we would get the current dev code name from that cache file21:59
RoAkSoAxkirkland, ok sounds like a plan then22:01
kirklandRoAkSoAx: i need to get this in tonight22:01
kirklandRoAkSoAx: get that bug filed and assigned to me ;-)22:01
RoAkSoAxkirkland, ok will do :)22:02
NattgewI have a PHP server that's been working fine for a long time. It was acting weird today so I restarted it, but when I try to access the pages, they download and don't display.22:08
NattgewI've poked around a bit but I'm not sure what's going on.22:08
sherrNattgew: Could there have been a server s/w update that's been activated by the reboot?22:09
sherrMaybe check what's been installed recently - /var/log/apt /var/log/aptitude* etc.22:10
sherrPlus the apache logs of course.22:10
NattgewI checked those logs, mysql updated recently but it's been a long time since anything else happened22:11
NattgewI'm not sure what I'm looking for, the packages seem to be installed and the php module is loading22:14
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sherrApache log - access and error for the page?22:19
sherrWhat does "acting weird" mean? Do you think it is related? Was it working just before reboot?22:20
NattgewI had a shell script I was running, and it had frozen and would not run again. It was also doing the same thing with the webpages.22:22
NattgewWhen I try to go to the page, it spits out 5 of these22:23
Nattgew127.0.0.1 - - [01/Apr/2010:16:21:11 -0500] "OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0" 200 - "-" "Apache/2.2.11 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.6-3ubuntu4.5 with Suhosin-Patch (internal dummy connection)"22:23
RoAkSoAxkirkland, btw I'm also gonna be trying to create a resource agent to setup HighAvailability for some of the Cloud Controllers, so I'll be poking you about the kvm related stuff22:23
kirklandRoAkSoAx: cool22:25
Nattgewhmm, if I go to the pages directly, it works now, but my bookmarks that worked before pointing to http://server/ try to download22:27
Xodiac13i need help on getting my server back up and running i did a distro upgrade and now im getting a mount filesystem error22:28
Xodiac13i need help on getting my server back up and running i did a distro upgrade and now im getting a mount filesystem error22:30
Xodiac13i need help on getting my server back up and running i did a distro upgrade and now im getting a mount filesystem error22:32
NattgewXodiac13 do you mean that it's not booting?22:34
RoAkSoAxkirkland, btw I reported the bug in testdrive but I cannot change the status nor importance of it, so I just set it to confirmed and assigned it to you22:34
kirklandRoAkSoAx: url?22:35
RoAkSoAxkirkland, https://bugs.launchpad.net/testdrive/+bug/55361622:35
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 553616 in testdrive "Improve method to obtain current development release for ISO list generation" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:35
Xodiac13Nattgew: i did a distro upgrade and everything went fine i rebooted and now when it goes into grub counts down then tries to boot i get a general mount filesystem error22:35
kirklandRoAkSoAx: got it, thanks22:36
RoAkSoAxnp ;)22:37
NattgewXodiac13 can you boot a CD to repair it?22:37
Xodiac13Nattgew can i use the ubuntu server 8.04 even though i upgraded to ubuntu server 9.1022:38
Nattgewthat should be fine22:38
Xodiac13when i load the cd what am i looking for22:38
airellsamanda , bacula or what to backup  ?22:38
Xodiac13i dont want to mess anything up22:39
Nattgewwhat options does the server CD give you?22:39
qman__you probably want to "repair a broken system", drop to a root shell, and manually fix the problem22:40
Xodiac13crap i lost my server cd do you think if i were to get the ubuntu server 9.10 it will revover it still22:41
qman__likely a grub issue22:41
qman__you can do it with any live CD, doesn't even really need to be ubuntu22:41
Xodiac13qman__ so i can use my ubuntu desktop 9.10 to try and fix it22:42
Xodiac13what am i looking for22:42
qman__you will want to mount your local filesystem, make sure /etc/fstab is right22:42
Xodiac13qman__ okay22:43
qman__then run grub, make sure the system.map is right, and reinstall it to the mbr22:43
Xodiac13qman__ lol is there a recovery option22:43
sherrXodiac13: Can you boot an old kernel i.e. ESC/Shift at boot to get grub menu / try different kernel?22:44
Xodiac13sherr: okay when i do that and it works will i be able to have it boot that kernal22:44
sherrIf you have a kernel that still boots, you can make that the default to use (if that's what you mean)22:45
Xodiac13yes22:46
Xodiac13sherr none of the older kernals worke22:46
Xodiac13worked*22:46
Xodiac13sherr i am downloading the ubuntu server 9.10 after that were do i go from there22:47
Xodiac13sherr or if there is a way to still save the folder and all the files that would be a lot better22:47
sherrYour files/dirs are almost certainly still on the disk fine22:47
sherrBoot a CDROM (maybe live) and backup if you want22:47
sherrOr boot "rescue mode" and try fixing22:48
Xodiac13sherr when i boot rescue mode is it going to try to fix it automatically22:48
sherrNo, you will have to try and fix it. Hard to say what the problem is.22:49
sherrIRC is difficult for this type of support sometimes. Lots of good web guides e.g.22:50
sherrhttps://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/installation-guide/i386/rescue.html22:50
sherr9.10 better maybe : https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/installation-guide/i386/rescue.html22:50
sherrand the forums.22:50
Xodiac13sherr okay i will take a look22:51
sherrGood luck anyway :-)22:52
Xodiac13sherr thank you22:53
RoyKI just hope the grub2 problems gets fixed soon22:55
RoyKI have a truckload of servers that wants a new version and not being able to boot them properly is a bitch22:55
Xodiac13RoyK i hope i can fix my server lol i really need it working right now22:57
* RoyK offers Xodiac13 to transfer $10k to his account22:58
Xodiac13lol yeah wooot22:59
RoyKa windows XP CD can do wonders22:59
Xodiac13RoyK no no no no no lol heck no i refuse to have a server with windows xp i only have windows on 2 computers one for gaming and the other because the ati radeon video card isnt supported anymore its a legacy card23:00
* RoyK hands Xodiac13 an opensolaris dvd23:02
Xodiac13RoyK not familiar with opensolaris23:02
RoyKI didn't like it much until I discovered zfs and that made me move storage over to opensolaris23:03
RoyKit somehow cancels the need for hardward raid, making it much better through software23:04
RoyKcaching with SSDs is nice23:04
Xodiac13heck yeah23:06
Xodiac13but i am going to wait on getting SSDs because i heard of them breaking the platter spins to fast and breaks23:06
qman__I don't know about opensolaris, never used it, but I have used sun solaris23:07
qman__it may have some nice features but the userland is a total bear23:07
RoyKqman__: userland in solaris 10 is old23:07
qman__it's like working on a unix box straight out of the 80s23:07
RoyKuserland in opensolaris is better, but not really good23:09
RoyKat least you have stuff like vim23:09
RoyKand standard setup with sudo23:09
qman__had to spend a good hour or two getting the gnu userland and basics23:09
qman__and even then, half the programs were still the old, unfriendly ones23:09
qman__nice to know opensolaris isn't as bad23:10
RoyKtry opensolaris - it's not that bad23:10
RoyKit's still old stuff, but the zfs stuff rocks and service management is nice once you get to know it23:13
qman__I imagine so, the straight solaris stuff had some potential23:14
qman__but was a total pain since I could never figure out what it was trying to tell me23:14
RoyKthere are some issues, though, like ssh not logging failed logins unless you touch this and that file, because perhaps someone could fill your disk with faulty login messages and ......23:14
RoyKthere's a lot of old shit with (open)solaris23:15
qman__I actually encountered a solaris box with a full disk23:15
qman__you really can't do anything23:15
qman__it was an old sparc with a 20GB disk in it23:15
qman__it won't let you stop services or delete files23:16
qman__because apparently it has to log that action before it performs it, or something23:16
qman__and couldn't, because there was no free disk space23:16
RoyKhttp://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc584123:19
KSidHi guys23:41
KSidIs it possible to remove a package via aptitude while leaving all dependant apps in place?23:41
KSidI want to upgrade openssl from source so want to replace the existing install23:41
ryanakcaFor Lucid+1, would it be feasible for Ubuntu to maintain a tripwire database?23:50
mathiazkirkland: hi!23:51
kirklandmathiaz: hiya23:51
mathiazkirkland: how big is your local amd64 mirror?23:51
kirklandmathiaz: i can tell you how big the whole i386+amd64 mirror is23:51
KSidAny suggestions about removing a package and leaving broken packages via aptitude?23:51
kirklandmathiaz: du churning...23:52
kirklandmathiaz: 325G23:52
ryanakca(and keep it up to date with the MD5SUMS of the files in packages)23:52
kirklandmathiaz: removing i386 might drop that a bit23:52
mathiazkirkland: hm ok - so a 128GB SSD drive isn't enough to host all of the amd64 archive23:52
kirklandmathiaz: prolly not23:53
mathiazkirkland: great - thanks23:53
kirklandmathiaz: you should just pick up a little usb powered external drive23:53
kirklandmathiaz: 500G23:53
kirklandmathiaz: and keep that in your bag23:53
mathiazkirkland: I already have one23:53
kirklandmathiaz: then you're set ;-)23:53
mathiazkirkland: but not 500 Gb :/23:53
mathiazkirkland: how big is main only?23:54
kirklandmathiaz: $ du -sh pool/main/23:55
kirkland125G    pool/main/23:55
kirklandmathiaz: you could probably have just amd64 of main23:55
lifelessoh mirrors23:55
kirklandmathiaz: and you'll need _all23:55
lifelessjpds: ^ :> if you're still up23:55
lifelesssomething I was thinking of was having separate mirror sets for amd64/i386 etc23:56
lifelesswith the sources files shared between them23:56
lifelessor even a dedicated sources set23:56
jpdslifeless: I only have stats for full archive mirrors...23:56
jpdsOh wait.23:57
jpdslifeless: Interesting.23:58
lifelessyes23:59
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