| sbeattie | nagappan: no, I don't believe so, as plymouth acts as the I/O intermediary between the system and whatever interface (text console/graphic splash) presents it. | 00:23 |
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| sbeattie | nagappan: are you using beta 1 or the daily iso snapshot to try your install? | 00:24 |
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| sbeattie | nagappan: slangasek might be able to give you more guidance about bug 552393 | 00:27 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 552393 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Installing Ubuntu 10.04 through Ilo interface doesn't seem to work (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/552393 | 00:27 |
| nagappan | sbeattie, sorry was away, I'm using beta1 | 00:42 |
| nagappan | sbeattie, sure, let me ping slangasek | 00:44 |
| nagappan | hello slangasek | 00:44 |
| slangasek | nagappan: hi - can you please test with a daily image? plymouth has changed substantially since beta1, and I don't think it's going to benefit us to try to debug this failure with the beta image directly | 00:47 |
| nagappan | slangasek, sure, let me download the daily image now | 00:48 |
| slangasek | you may well run into *other* problems with the daily image that prevent you completing an install; but at least this lets us rule out plymouth | 00:49 |
| nagappan | ah ! slangasek left :) | 01:27 |
| nagappan | slangasek, http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#5454959018502120402 | 01:40 |
| nagappan | slangasek, http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#5454962545741038722 | 01:40 |
| nagappan | slangasek, still booting, for last 45 minutes | 01:41 |
| nagappan | slangasek, downloaded image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/lucid-desktop-amd64.iso | 01:41 |
| slangasek | nagappan: do you boot it with any particular kernel commandline options? | 01:41 |
| slangasek | nagappan: in particular, does your ilo involve setting a 'console=' option? | 01:44 |
| nagappan | slangasek, I just removed splash and quiet | 01:44 |
| nagappan | slangasek, otherwise, I haven't changed anything | 01:44 |
| slangasek | and the ilo is connected to the machine's VGA output? | 01:44 |
| nagappan | slangasek, with the same machines, I have Ubuntu 8.04 / 9.04 / 9.10 working | 01:45 |
| slangasek | what happens if you *don't* remove splash and quiet? | 01:45 |
| nagappan | slangasek, it uses IPMI technology, the VGA is connected to physical monitor, since the machine is located 200 miles away from my office, I have to use only ilo to access it remotely during installation | 01:46 |
| nagappan | slangasek, if I don't remove those options, the screen just stays blank, I waited last time for 2 hours | 01:46 |
| nagappan | slangasek, new screen - http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#5454964288819800066 | 01:47 |
| slangasek | so there's a physical monitor connected to the VGA port, and the iLO is done via a separate IPMI interface? | 01:47 |
| nagappan | slangasek, perfect :) | 01:48 |
| slangasek | are you able to send a sysrq key via the ilo? | 01:48 |
| slangasek | if so, please send Alt+SysRq+K | 01:48 |
| nagappan | slangasek, I have soft keyboard option | 01:49 |
| nagappan | slangasek, let me do it | 01:49 |
| nagappan | slangasek, I don't see SysRq in soft keyboard - just incase sharing the screenshot :) http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#5454965568864614354 | 01:53 |
| nagappan | slangasek, doing with my regular keyboard, focusing the ilo window | 01:53 |
| slangasek | nagappan: it may work by sending Alt+Prn+K | 01:53 |
| nagappan | slangasek, it logged me off from my Ubuntu host :D | 01:55 |
| slangasek | <cough> yes | 01:55 |
| slangasek | nagappan: Alt+Prn+K on the soft keyboard may do the right thing. If not, we probably need to edit the boot options to break into the initramfs | 01:58 |
| nagappan | slangasek, sure | 01:59 |
| nagappan | slangasek, whats the expected output of this ? | 02:03 |
| nagappan | slangasek, I don't see anything happening with it | 02:03 |
| slangasek | nagappan: if it didn't immediately cause the login screen to appear, then it didn't work; so you get to break into the initramfs instead | 02:14 |
| slangasek | adding 'break=top' to the boot options should do the job | 02:14 |
| nagappan | slangasek, sure | 02:14 |
| nagappan | slangasek, let me do it now | 02:14 |
| slangasek | nagappan: any luck? | 02:27 |
| nagappan | slangasek, its not booting | 02:27 |
| slangasek | oh? | 02:28 |
| nagappan | slangasek, my virtual cd image seems to be not reachable | 02:28 |
| slangasek | ah | 02:28 |
| nagappan | slangasek, debugging | 02:28 |
| nagappan | slangasek, removing splash and quiet | 02:36 |
| nagappan | slangasek, adding break=top | 02:36 |
| nagappan | slangasek, let me boot now and see | 02:36 |
| nagappan | slangasek, when I press enter it stays in the initial screen for about 10 minutes, initially I thought the system got hung ! later I realized it takes time to boot ! | 02:37 |
| nagappan | slangasek, still in initial screen, will update you once, it enters the next screen | 02:38 |
| nagappan | slangasek, I'm into intramfs prompt | 02:40 |
| slangasek | ok | 02:41 |
| slangasek | run '/scripts/init-top/udev' | 02:41 |
| nagappan | slangasek, sure | 02:41 |
| nagappan | slangasek, looks like its in hung state, I'm unable to type any | 02:42 |
| slangasek | oh. :/ | 02:42 |
| nagappan | slangasek, http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#5454978538134140082 | 02:42 |
| slangasek | well, there's one more thing we can try | 02:43 |
| nagappan | slangasek, sure | 02:43 |
| slangasek | instead of 'break=top', try 'break=casper-bottom' | 02:44 |
| nagappan | slangasek, sure | 02:45 |
| nagappan | slangasek, I'm in initramfs prompt | 02:53 |
| nagappan | slangasek, and its accessible | 02:53 |
| slangasek | nagappan: great - please run 'cat /proc/fb' and 'ls -l /sys/class/drm' and tell me the output of each | 02:54 |
| nagappan | slangasek, sure | 02:54 |
| nagappan | slangasek, http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#5454981775863160354 | 02:55 |
| slangasek | nagappan: cat /sys/class/drm/*/status | 02:57 |
| nagappan | slangasek, sure | 02:57 |
| nagappan | slangasek, I got 2 lines of "connected" string printed | 02:58 |
| slangasek | nagappan: ok - at this point, my best guess is that this is an instance of bug #533135 | 02:59 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 533135 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "System fails to boot with plymouth installed (nouveau driver with >1 display) (affects: 24) (dups: 12) (heat: 216)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533135 | 02:59 |
| nagappan | slangasek, ah ! ok :) | 02:59 |
| slangasek | but that bug has only been reported on nvidia before now; and it hasn't been diagnosed, so I don't know if it should also affect radeon | 02:59 |
| slangasek | have you tried booting with 'nomodeset'? | 02:59 |
| nagappan | slangasek, nope, shall I try now ? | 03:01 |
| nagappan | slangasek, added myself to the above bug | 03:02 |
| slangasek | yes, please try the nomodeset option | 03:02 |
| nagappan | slangasek, trying now | 03:02 |
| nagappan | slangasek, still waiting | 03:13 |
| slangasek | did it stop at the same place as before? | 03:13 |
| nagappan | slangasek, http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#5454959018502120402 | 03:14 |
| nagappan | slangasek, waiting here | 03:14 |
| slangasek | right - same place it stopped before, hmm | 03:14 |
| nagappan | slangasek, just a general question, what does this plymouth do ? | 03:14 |
| nagappan | slangasek, yes | 03:14 |
| slangasek | plymouth serializes boot-time interactions with the user; it's needed because we have a parallel boot system which could be starting multiple programs at the same time which need to interact with the user in a comprehensible manner | 03:15 |
| slangasek | ...it does this by taking over the console, so any bugs in it are serious bugs | 03:16 |
| nagappan | slangasek, ah ! ok | 03:16 |
| nagappan | slangasek, make sense | 03:16 |
| nagappan | slangasek, but it makes Ubuntu 10.04 experience harder :) Hope it will be resolved soon | 03:17 |
| slangasek | just to be sure... could you try booting with 'break=init'? | 03:17 |
| slangasek | we could still be wrong about plymouth being involved | 03:18 |
| nagappan | slangasek, sure, let me try now | 03:19 |
| nagappan | slangasek, with nomodeset ? | 03:21 |
| slangasek | with or without; shouldn't matter | 03:22 |
| nagappan | slangasek, ok | 03:22 |
| slangasek | as long as you see *some* text output | 03:22 |
| nagappan | slangasek, ok | 03:24 |
| nagappan | slangasek, after pressing enter in boot prompt, not sure, why it takes atleast 5 minutes to come to the next screen | 03:26 |
| nagappan | slangasek, maybe extracting the initram ? | 03:26 |
| slangasek | that's all it should be doing - is it extracting it across the network? | 03:27 |
| slangasek | initramfs extraction should be fast | 03:27 |
| slangasek | *CD* extraction is very slow, however | 03:27 |
| slangasek | so if it takes 5 minutes just to extract the initramfs, it's *possible* that 2h to unpack the livefs is accurate | 03:27 |
| slangasek | and not a bug in plymouth at all | 03:28 |
| nagappan | slangasek, ok | 03:29 |
| nagappan | slangasek, yes its across network | 03:29 |
| nagappan | slangasek, the ISO exist on my box | 03:29 |
| nagappan | slangasek, and the test machine physically 200 miles away ! | 03:30 |
| slangasek | I don't know why 10.04 would be slower than previous releases | 03:30 |
| nagappan | slangasek, its in "Adding live session user...." | 03:30 |
| nagappan | slangasek, but 10.04 installation as a guest inside VM, it rocks ! | 03:31 |
| nagappan | slangasek, believe me :) | 03:31 |
| slangasek | so if it's stopping there even with break=init, I don't see anyway that this could be a plymouth bug | 03:31 |
| nagappan | slangasek, we use that for our regular testing | 03:31 |
| nagappan | slangasek, ah ! ok | 03:31 |
| slangasek | is it possible that the kernel never succeeds in detecting your CD? | 03:32 |
| slangasek | because there are many errors about /dev/sr0 in the screenshots | 03:32 |
| nagappan | slangasek, Ubuntu 10.04 is high priority for our upcoming VMware Workstation release | 03:32 |
| nagappan | slangasek, but it has detected the virtual CD | 03:32 |
| nagappan | slangasek, /dev/sr1 | 03:32 |
| slangasek | ah | 03:32 |
| slangasek | maybe it needs to be manually told to look at /dev/sr1 | 03:33 |
| nagappan | slangasek, ah ! how do I do that ? | 03:33 |
| nagappan | slangasek, the same thing worked for other Ubuntu versions ! | 03:34 |
| slangasek | I'm not sure; currently looking | 03:34 |
| nagappan | slangasek, ok | 03:34 |
| nagappan | slangasek, looks like configuring fstab took more time ? | 03:37 |
| slangasek | nagappan: sorry, what do you mean? | 03:38 |
| nagappan | slangasek, let me see whether I have any screenshot | 03:38 |
| nagappan | slangasek, that screen is now completely blank | 03:38 |
| nagappan | slangasek, after this http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#5454959018502120402 | 03:39 |
| nagappan | slangasek, it takes long time | 03:39 |
| nagappan | slangasek, and then print, something like configuring fstab | 03:39 |
| slangasek | nagappan: ah | 03:39 |
| slangasek | yes, if you look in the casper package at the files under /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom, you'll see the series of scripts that it's trying to run | 03:39 |
| slangasek | there are a *lot* of them, and it seems we've only gotten up to '12fstab' in the sequence | 03:40 |
| nagappan | slangasek, http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#5454993361718377666 | 03:40 |
| nagappan | slangasek, ok | 03:40 |
| nagappan | slangasek, now in intramfs prompt :D | 03:40 |
| slangasek | nagappan: do you normally install from an image 200 miles away from the machine, or do you usually put the image closer to the target machine first? | 03:40 |
| nagappan | slangasek, this is our usual scenario and works well :) | 03:41 |
| slangasek | oh, if you're at an initramfs prompt, just type 'exit' | 03:41 |
| slangasek | and see if it continues | 03:41 |
| nagappan | slangasek, sure | 03:41 |
| nagappan | slangasek, all the host OS images are located in our corporate center, where we work and the test machines are in different state ! | 03:42 |
| slangasek | right | 03:42 |
| slangasek | I don't know why this is slow, then | 03:42 |
| nagappan | slangasek, after I typed exit and pressed enter | 03:43 |
| nagappan | slangasek, it just stays there | 03:44 |
| slangasek | hmm | 03:44 |
| slangasek | well, if the root filesystem on the liveCD were not mounted, I would expect to see errors from those scripts | 03:44 |
| slangasek | so I believe everything up to running init is working | 03:45 |
| slangasek | but if there's a performance issue with the CD, it's definitely going to affect trying to chroot into the livefs and start X, as well | 03:45 |
| slangasek | nagappan: ok, one more idea: boot without 'quiet' 'splash', boot with 'nomodeset' and '--verbose' | 03:53 |
| nagappan | slangasek, sure | 04:00 |
| nagappan | slangasek, -- at end is required ? | 04:01 |
| slangasek | not required | 04:02 |
| nagappan | slangasek, pressed enter, let me see | 04:03 |
| nagappan | slangasek, http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#5455004022539527410 | 04:21 |
| slangasek | nagappan: ok - can you please link that from the bug report? | 04:23 |
| nagappan | slangasek, sure | 04:23 |
| slangasek | I've run out of ideas on this for the evening; I think it'll have to wait until someone else picks it up now and can figure out what's happening | 04:23 |
| slangasek | how long has it been stopped at that line? | 04:24 |
| nagappan | slangasek, atleast for last 15 / 20 minutes | 04:24 |
| slangasek | right | 04:25 |
| slangasek | so that's definitely hanging, I just can't see why | 04:25 |
| nagappan | slangasek, ah ! now its in new screen (though I have seen this earlier) - http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#5454964288819800066 | 04:25 |
| slangasek | can you try switching VTs? Alt+F1, Alt+F7? | 04:26 |
| nagappan | slangasek, back to this screen itself http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42744482/Screenshot-Supermicro%20Daughter%20Card%20Remote%20Console%20-%20w1-hutlab045-ilo.eng.vmware.com-4.png | 04:26 |
| nagappan | slangasek, sure | 04:26 |
| nagappan | slangasek, nothing is happening, maybe in hang state | 04:27 |
| slangasek | ok | 04:27 |
| slangasek | the screen switch should indicate either plymouth exiting, or X starting | 04:28 |
| nagappan | slangasek, ah ! ok | 04:28 |
| nagappan | slangasek, looks like X is starting | 04:28 |
| nagappan | slangasek, still the screen is blank | 04:28 |
| slangasek | so this could be a plymouth, X, or kernel bug | 04:29 |
| slangasek | since we're booting without 'splash', it's probably not a plymouth bug | 04:29 |
| slangasek | I suggest sending all this information to the bug | 04:29 |
| nagappan | slangasek, ok | 04:30 |
| * nagappan heading home from office | 04:32 | |
| nagappan | slangasek, thanks for your kind help and debugging instructions :) | 04:32 |
| slangasek | sure - sorry for not figuring out the bug yet | 04:32 |
| nagappan | slangasek, np :) let me try tomorrow as well :) | 04:35 |
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| gringochapin | Hi all. I have some xml files from the system testing application that we generated on a few different computers at our local jam last weekend. Where do I go to submit these? The application seemed to have a bug, so we were not able to submit any of the results. | 20:08 |
| gringochapin | That is, we weren't able to submit any of them automatically. | 20:08 |
| gringochapin | I believe we were hit by this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/checkbox/+bug/540080 | 20:09 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 540080 in checkbox (Ubuntu) "System Testing failed to upload to server (affects: 6) (heat: 34)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:09 |
| nagappan | slangasek, Hi | 21:39 |
| nagappan | slangasek, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/533135 | 21:39 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 533135 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "System fails to boot with plymouth installed (nouveau driver with >1 display) (affects: 26) (dups: 13) (heat: 236)" [Medium,Triaged] | 21:39 |
| nagappan | slangasek, I read text theme over here | 21:40 |
| nagappan | slangasek, how can I try that ? | 21:40 |
| slangasek | nagappan: if you're booting without 'splash', you're already using /a/ text theme. You can test the ubuntu-logo text theme by booting with 'plymouth:splash=text' | 21:42 |
| nagappan | slangasek, ah ! ok, I guess in my case its issue due to multiple VGA card on the host system | 21:44 |
| slangasek | maybe | 21:48 |
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