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sbeattienagappan: no, I don't believe so, as plymouth acts as the I/O intermediary between the system and whatever interface (text console/graphic splash) presents it.00:23
sbeattienagappan: are you using beta 1 or the daily iso snapshot to try your install?00:24
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sbeattienagappan: slangasek might be able to give you more guidance about bug 55239300:27
ubot4Launchpad bug 552393 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Installing Ubuntu 10.04 through Ilo interface doesn't seem to work (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55239300:27
nagappansbeattie, sorry was away, I'm using beta100:42
nagappansbeattie, sure, let me ping slangasek00:44
nagappanhello slangasek00:44
slangaseknagappan: hi - can you please test with a daily image?  plymouth has changed substantially since beta1, and I don't think it's going to benefit us to try to debug this failure with the beta image directly00:47
nagappanslangasek, sure, let me download the daily image now00:48
slangasekyou may well run into *other* problems with the daily image that prevent you completing an install; but at least this lets us rule out plymouth00:49
nagappanah ! slangasek left :)01:27
nagappanslangasek, http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#545495901850212040201:40
nagappanslangasek, http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#545496254574103872201:40
nagappanslangasek, still booting, for last 45 minutes01:41
nagappanslangasek, downloaded image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/lucid-desktop-amd64.iso01:41
slangaseknagappan: do you boot it with any particular kernel commandline options?01:41
slangaseknagappan: in particular, does your ilo involve setting a 'console=' option?01:44
nagappanslangasek, I just removed splash and quiet01:44
nagappanslangasek, otherwise, I haven't changed anything01:44
slangasekand the ilo is connected to the machine's VGA output?01:44
nagappanslangasek, with the same machines, I have Ubuntu 8.04 / 9.04 / 9.10 working01:45
slangasekwhat happens if you *don't* remove splash and quiet?01:45
nagappanslangasek, it uses IPMI technology, the VGA is connected to physical monitor, since the machine is located 200 miles away from my office, I have to use only ilo to access it remotely during installation01:46
nagappanslangasek, if I don't remove those options, the screen just stays blank, I waited last time for 2 hours01:46
nagappanslangasek, new screen - http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#545496428881980006601:47
slangasekso there's a physical monitor connected to the VGA port, and the iLO is done via a separate IPMI interface?01:47
nagappanslangasek, perfect :)01:48
slangasekare you able to send a sysrq key via the ilo?01:48
slangasekif so, please send Alt+SysRq+K01:48
nagappanslangasek, I have soft keyboard option01:49
nagappanslangasek, let me do it01:49
nagappanslangasek, I don't see SysRq in soft keyboard - just incase sharing the screenshot :) http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#545496556886461435401:53
nagappanslangasek, doing with my regular keyboard, focusing the ilo window01:53
slangaseknagappan: it may work by sending Alt+Prn+K01:53
nagappanslangasek, it logged me off from my Ubuntu host :D01:55
slangasek<cough> yes01:55
slangaseknagappan: Alt+Prn+K on the soft keyboard may do the right thing.  If not, we probably need to edit the boot options to break into the initramfs01:58
nagappanslangasek, sure01:59
nagappanslangasek, whats the expected output of this ?02:03
nagappanslangasek, I don't see anything happening with it02:03
slangaseknagappan: if it didn't immediately cause the login screen to appear, then it didn't work; so you get to break into the initramfs instead02:14
slangasekadding 'break=top' to the boot options should do the job02:14
nagappanslangasek, sure02:14
nagappanslangasek, let me do it now02:14
slangaseknagappan: any luck?02:27
nagappanslangasek, its not booting02:27
slangasekoh?02:28
nagappanslangasek, my virtual cd image seems to be not reachable02:28
slangasekah02:28
nagappanslangasek, debugging02:28
nagappanslangasek, removing splash and quiet02:36
nagappanslangasek, adding break=top02:36
nagappanslangasek, let me boot now and see02:36
nagappanslangasek, when I press enter it stays in the initial screen for about 10 minutes, initially I thought the system got hung ! later I realized it takes time to boot !02:37
nagappanslangasek, still in initial screen, will update you once, it enters the next screen02:38
nagappanslangasek, I'm into intramfs prompt02:40
slangasekok02:41
slangasekrun '/scripts/init-top/udev'02:41
nagappanslangasek, sure02:41
nagappanslangasek, looks like its in hung state, I'm unable to type any02:42
slangasekoh. :/02:42
nagappanslangasek, http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#545497853813414008202:42
slangasekwell, there's one more thing we can try02:43
nagappanslangasek, sure02:43
slangasekinstead of 'break=top', try 'break=casper-bottom'02:44
nagappanslangasek, sure02:45
nagappanslangasek, I'm in initramfs prompt02:53
nagappanslangasek, and its accessible02:53
slangaseknagappan: great - please run 'cat /proc/fb' and 'ls -l /sys/class/drm' and tell me the output of each02:54
nagappanslangasek, sure02:54
nagappanslangasek, http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#545498177586316035402:55
slangaseknagappan: cat /sys/class/drm/*/status02:57
nagappanslangasek, sure02:57
nagappanslangasek, I got 2 lines of "connected" string printed02:58
slangaseknagappan: ok - at this point, my best guess is that this is an instance of bug #53313502:59
ubot4Launchpad bug 533135 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "System fails to boot with plymouth installed (nouveau driver with >1 display) (affects: 24) (dups: 12) (heat: 216)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53313502:59
nagappanslangasek, ah ! ok :)02:59
slangasekbut that bug has only been reported on nvidia before now; and it hasn't been diagnosed, so I don't know if it should also affect radeon02:59
slangasekhave you tried booting with 'nomodeset'?02:59
nagappanslangasek, nope, shall I try now ?03:01
nagappanslangasek, added myself to the above bug03:02
slangasekyes, please try the nomodeset option03:02
nagappanslangasek, trying now03:02
nagappanslangasek, still waiting03:13
slangasekdid it stop at the same place as before?03:13
nagappanslangasek, http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#545495901850212040203:14
nagappanslangasek, waiting here03:14
slangasekright - same place it stopped before, hmm03:14
nagappanslangasek, just a general question, what does this plymouth do ?03:14
nagappanslangasek, yes03:14
slangasekplymouth serializes boot-time interactions with the user; it's needed because we have a parallel boot system which could be starting multiple programs at the same time which need to interact with the user in a comprehensible manner03:15
slangasek...it does this by taking over the console, so any bugs in it are serious bugs03:16
nagappanslangasek, ah ! ok03:16
nagappanslangasek, make sense03:16
nagappanslangasek, but it makes Ubuntu 10.04 experience harder :) Hope it will be resolved soon03:17
slangasekjust to be sure... could you try booting with 'break=init'?03:17
slangasekwe could still be wrong about plymouth being involved03:18
nagappanslangasek, sure, let me try now03:19
nagappanslangasek, with nomodeset ?03:21
slangasekwith or without; shouldn't matter03:22
nagappanslangasek, ok03:22
slangasekas long as you see *some* text output03:22
nagappanslangasek, ok03:24
nagappanslangasek, after pressing enter in boot prompt, not sure, why it takes atleast 5 minutes to come to the next screen03:26
nagappanslangasek, maybe extracting the initram ?03:26
slangasekthat's all it should be doing - is it extracting it across the network?03:27
slangasekinitramfs extraction should be fast03:27
slangasek*CD* extraction is very slow, however03:27
slangasekso if it takes 5 minutes just to extract the initramfs, it's *possible* that 2h to unpack the livefs is accurate03:27
slangasekand not a bug in plymouth at all03:28
nagappanslangasek, ok03:29
nagappanslangasek, yes its across network03:29
nagappanslangasek, the ISO exist on my box03:29
nagappanslangasek, and the test machine physically 200 miles away !03:30
slangasekI don't know why 10.04 would be slower than previous releases03:30
nagappanslangasek, its in "Adding live session user...."03:30
nagappanslangasek, but 10.04 installation as a guest inside VM, it rocks !03:31
nagappanslangasek, believe me :)03:31
slangasekso if it's stopping there even with break=init, I don't see anyway that this could be a plymouth bug03:31
nagappanslangasek, we use that for our regular testing03:31
nagappanslangasek, ah ! ok03:31
slangasekis it possible that the kernel never succeeds in detecting your CD?03:32
slangasekbecause there are many errors about /dev/sr0 in the screenshots03:32
nagappanslangasek, Ubuntu 10.04 is high priority for our upcoming VMware Workstation release03:32
nagappanslangasek, but it has detected the virtual CD03:32
nagappanslangasek, /dev/sr103:32
slangasekah03:32
slangasekmaybe it needs to be manually told to look at /dev/sr103:33
nagappanslangasek, ah ! how do I do that ?03:33
nagappanslangasek, the same thing worked for other Ubuntu versions !03:34
slangasekI'm not sure; currently looking03:34
nagappanslangasek, ok03:34
nagappanslangasek, looks like configuring fstab took more time ?03:37
slangaseknagappan: sorry, what do you mean?03:38
nagappanslangasek, let me see whether I have any screenshot03:38
nagappanslangasek, that screen is now completely blank03:38
nagappanslangasek, after this http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#545495901850212040203:39
nagappanslangasek, it takes long time03:39
nagappanslangasek, and then print, something like configuring fstab03:39
slangaseknagappan: ah03:39
slangasekyes, if you look in the casper package at the files under /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom, you'll see the series of scripts that it's trying to run03:39
slangasekthere are a *lot* of them, and it seems we've only gotten up to '12fstab' in the sequence03:40
nagappanslangasek, http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#545499336171837766603:40
nagappanslangasek, ok03:40
nagappanslangasek, now in intramfs prompt :D03:40
slangaseknagappan: do you normally install from an image 200 miles away from the machine, or do you usually put the image closer to the target machine first?03:40
nagappanslangasek, this is our usual scenario and works well :)03:41
slangasekoh, if you're at an initramfs prompt, just type 'exit'03:41
slangasekand see if it continues03:41
nagappanslangasek, sure03:41
nagappanslangasek, all the host OS images are located in our corporate center, where we work and the test machines are in different state !03:42
slangasekright03:42
slangasekI don't know why this is slow, then03:42
nagappanslangasek, after I typed exit and pressed enter03:43
nagappanslangasek, it just stays there03:44
slangasekhmm03:44
slangasekwell, if the root filesystem on the liveCD were not mounted, I would expect to see errors from those scripts03:44
slangasekso I believe everything up to running init is working03:45
slangasekbut if there's a performance issue with the CD, it's definitely going to affect trying to chroot into the livefs and start X, as well03:45
slangaseknagappan: ok, one more idea: boot without 'quiet' 'splash', boot with 'nomodeset' and '--verbose'03:53
nagappanslangasek, sure04:00
nagappanslangasek, -- at end is required ?04:01
slangaseknot required04:02
nagappanslangasek, pressed enter, let me see04:03
nagappanslangasek, http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#545500402253952741004:21
slangaseknagappan: ok - can you please link that from the bug report?04:23
nagappanslangasek, sure04:23
slangasekI've run out of ideas on this for the evening; I think it'll have to wait until someone else picks it up now and can figure out what's happening04:23
slangasekhow long has it been stopped at that line?04:24
nagappanslangasek, atleast for last 15 / 20 minutes04:24
slangasekright04:25
slangasekso that's definitely hanging, I just can't see why04:25
nagappanslangasek, ah ! now its in new screen (though I have seen this earlier) - http://picasaweb.google.com/nagappan/Tmp#545496428881980006604:25
slangasekcan you try switching VTs? Alt+F1, Alt+F7?04:26
nagappanslangasek, back to this screen itself http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42744482/Screenshot-Supermicro%20Daughter%20Card%20Remote%20Console%20-%20w1-hutlab045-ilo.eng.vmware.com-4.png04:26
nagappanslangasek, sure04:26
nagappanslangasek, nothing is happening, maybe in hang state04:27
slangasekok04:27
slangasekthe screen switch should indicate either plymouth exiting, or X starting04:28
nagappanslangasek, ah ! ok04:28
nagappanslangasek, looks like X is starting04:28
nagappanslangasek, still the screen is blank04:28
slangasekso this could be a plymouth, X, or kernel bug04:29
slangaseksince we're booting without 'splash', it's probably not a plymouth bug04:29
slangasekI suggest sending all this information to the bug04:29
nagappanslangasek, ok04:30
* nagappan heading home from office04:32
nagappanslangasek, thanks for your kind help and debugging instructions :)04:32
slangaseksure - sorry for not figuring out the bug yet04:32
nagappanslangasek, np :) let me try tomorrow as well :)04:35
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gringochapinHi all. I have some xml files from the system testing application that we generated on a few different computers at our local jam last weekend.  Where do I go to submit these?  The application seemed to have a bug, so we were not able to submit any of the results.20:08
gringochapinThat is, we weren't able to submit any of them automatically.20:08
gringochapinI believe we were hit by this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/checkbox/+bug/54008020:09
ubot4Launchpad bug 540080 in checkbox (Ubuntu) "System Testing failed to upload to server (affects: 6) (heat: 34)" [Undecided,Confirmed]20:09
nagappanslangasek, Hi21:39
nagappanslangasek, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/53313521:39
ubot4Launchpad bug 533135 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "System fails to boot with plymouth installed (nouveau driver with >1 display) (affects: 26) (dups: 13) (heat: 236)" [Medium,Triaged]21:39
nagappanslangasek, I read text theme over here21:40
nagappanslangasek, how can I try that ?21:40
slangaseknagappan: if you're booting without 'splash', you're already using /a/ text theme.  You can test the ubuntu-logo text theme by booting with 'plymouth:splash=text'21:42
nagappanslangasek, ah ! ok, I guess in my case its issue due to multiple VGA card on the host system21:44
slangasekmaybe21:48

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