[02:03] <Technoviking> anyway to make U1 sync files automatic after login?
[04:00] <Chipaca> Technoviking: yes: update :)
[04:00] <Chipaca> Technoviking: it was fixed a couple of hours ago
[04:12] <duanedesign> Chipaca: that is nightlies right?
[04:14] <duanedesign> aha, ,looks like it. Awesome!
[05:08] <dr_spork> honk
[07:41] <kermiac> hi, could conflict files be created due to a user un-registering u1 & re-registering without manually deleting the token in seahorse? (i.e due to bug 545506)
[07:42] <kermiac> OP's problem is now fixed, just wondering if Ishould dupe it against 545506?
[07:54] <duanedesign> hello kermiac
[07:54] <kermiac> hey duanedesign :)
[07:55] <duanedesign> i saw gmail notifications coming up, i was wondering who was working on bugs :)
[07:55] <kermiac> only me, lol   any idea about ^^  ?    bug 550987
[07:56] <kermiac> OP's prob is now fixed, but I think it would probably be a dupe
[07:59] <duanedesign> kermiac: i would say it is not a dupe of bug  5[4]5506
[08:00] <kermiac> ok, no probs.... I'll just close it off as invalid as the issue has now been resolved & it was possibly a mixture of known bugs that the poor OP came up against. Thanks for looking :)
[08:02] <kermiac> duanedesign: did I ever let you know that r_ye & I discussed the "sys_server_rescan" bugs that we talked about a couple of weeks ago?
[08:02] <duanedesign> It did seem to be stuck in Standoff bug 487257
[08:03] <kermiac> ok, looking :)
[08:06] <kermiac> yes duanedesign that looks like a great candidate to dupe against... ty :)
[08:08] <kermiac> I noticed 487257 isn't listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Bugs   do you think it should it get added for future reference? Obviously I didn't know about that bug & I use the wiki pages as a cheat-sheet for know issues
[08:09] <duanedesign> kermiac: right, i do the same thing. I am not sure what the criteria is, if any at all, for putting bugs on there
[08:11] <kermiac> duanedesign: glad to see it's not only me, lol. I might see if I can catch joshua or r_ye & ask them if I'm around when they're here over the next couple of days
[08:17] <duanedesign> kermiac: i think i read the scrollback on the SYS_SERVER_RESCAN but i dont remember what was decided.
[08:18] <duanedesign> did we open up the bug report, or create another?
[08:20] <kermiac> duanedesign: we still make new reports a dupe of 458393. "Fix Released" means it is fixed "somewhere" not neccessarily in all versions of ubuntu. In this particular case it is fixed in lucid, but not karmic, jaunty, etc
[09:28] <kermiac> hey rye :) you got a sec for a quick question about getting bug 487257 added to the bugs page on the wiki?
[09:29] <rye> kermiac, yup
[09:30] <kermiac> duane_design & I weren't sure if there is some sort of criteria there is for adding a known bug to the wiki. We both use that page as a kind of "cheat sheet"
[09:30] <kermiac> do you know if it would be ok to add that bug to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Bugs
[09:32] <kermiac> rye ^^
[09:33] <rye> kermiac, i believe yes, I am now working on the script that would automatically mark such items as duplicates (something that should have been done long long ago but made it into ubuntuone-client only with revision r464(
[09:33] <kermiac> rye: a bug pattern?
[09:33] <rye> kermiac, we can not use bugpatterns properly for now, but the fix is committed now
[09:34] <rye> kermiac, bug #552511 :(
[09:34] <kermiac> ok, looking at ^^
[09:35] <rye> kermiac, so that page is extremely helpful for that and I believe that if there are more than 10 bug reports about the same thing it should go there
[09:38] <kermiac> rye: 552511 will be very useful... more log files are definately a good thing :)
[09:38] <kermiac> rye: Thanks for the info on the bug wiki page. I guess anyone can add to that wiki page as long as they have a wiki account, right?
[09:38] <rye> kermiac, if that can be automated... then why not?
[09:39] <rye> kermiac, yup, full access for everyone :)
[09:39] <kermiac> exactly... I was wondering why there didn't appear to be any bug patterns for U1 - that explains it :)
[09:39] <rye> kermiac, there are already two bug patterns :)
[09:39] <kermiac> rye: ok, when I get time I'll add 487257 to the wiki page
[09:40] <kermiac> rye: oh, I didn't know that
[09:40] <rye> kermiac, a small question regarding bugpatterns - when the bug is already filed, is it possible for apport to somehow re-check the bugpatterns database?
[09:41] <rye> kermiac, something like retracer, but not for coredumps?
[09:43] <kermiac> rye: hmmm.... I'm not 100% sure, but i don't think so. I know Brian Murray (bdmurray on IRC) would know for sure. I know that "bughugger" can search for dupes, but it's a manual process - you need to manually search for dupes
[09:44] <kermiac> rye: https://edge.launchpad.net/bughugger
[10:00] <duanedesign> rye: I am working on another bug like bug 537610
[10:01] <duanedesign> The message about ValueError replaces the Devices tab info so the preferences window cannot be used to troubleshoot this error.
[10:01] <rye> duanedesign, ah, I have just re-marked 3 of them as duplicates of this one...
[10:01] <duanedesign> i am just making sure i understand that last sentence
[10:02] <rye> duanedesign, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40820922/Schermata-Preferenze%20di%20Ubuntu%20One.png
[10:02] <rye> duanedesign, no buttons for bandwidth throttling control -> preferences window cannot be used to adjust the limits
[10:03] <duanedesign> ahhhh.
[10:03] <duanedesign> ok
[10:17] <rye> ok, script is ready and started. Hopefully lp guys won't kick me :)
[10:18] <rye> well, it is just search-bugs with some tweaks for tag-less ubuntuone client
[10:22] <rye> ok, it looks like it is working, adding all bug patterns from /Bugs page
[10:26] <duanedesign> rye: that will be nice
[10:27] <rye> duanedesign, will post the script to do all this to ubuntuone-scripts once it proves to be usable
[10:27] <NickL> rye: I'm still having syncing problems, music is in my one.ubuntu.com/files, but they're not syncing locally. I ran that python script I was sent but still no joy :-(
[10:28] <rye> NickL, and your client is in IDLE now, right?
[10:28] <NickL> rye: It's idle State: QUEUE_MANAGER
[10:28] <NickL>     connection: With User With Network
[10:28] <NickL>     description: processing queues
[10:28] <NickL>     is_connected: True
[10:28] <NickL>     is_error: False
[10:28] <NickL>     is_online: True
[10:28] <NickL>     queues: WORKING_ON_METADATA
[10:28] <NickL> rye:  it said that yesterday too.
[10:29] <rye> NickL, hm, working on metadata?... could you please post what "grep MARK ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log | tail -n 1" says?
[10:34] <NickL> I'm not too good with the command line so navigated to the syncdaemon file and pasted it here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/407485/
[10:34] <NickL> rye: ^
[10:38] <NickL> rye: Just realied you gave me the command, here it is: 2010-04-01 10:36:10,902 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Main - NOTE - ---- MARK (state: <State: 'QUEUE_MANAGER'  (queues WORKING_ON_METADATA  connection 'With User With Network')>; queues: metadata: 233; content: 0; hash: 0, fsm-cache: hit=45041 miss=21970) ----
[10:38] <rye> NickL, may i ask you to re-run that command in a minute, if "queues: metadata: 233" does not change then something is really stuck
[10:38] <NickL> rye: no problem.
[10:39] <rye> NickL, thanks!
[10:49] <duanedesign> rye: I moved my Ubuntu One, Desktopcouch, CouchDB projects page to the ubuntu wiki. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/ThirdPartyProjects
[10:50] <duanedesign> so if you come across anyone working on anything or you have something to put on there...
[11:24] <rye> ok, let the madness begin, complete scan of all apport bugs for ubuntuone-client with all bugpatterns
[11:28] <\sh> rye, have fun ;)
[11:29] <PaulGit> Morning all, I have just received an update to some U1 packages under Lucid, will these have the auto-connect functionality in them?  If so how does it work (does it check every so often or only when there is a change?)
[11:39] <PaulGit> Gents, what version of python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol etc should I have installed under lucid because now ubuntuone-client-gnome will not install. :(
[11:49] <NickL> rye: queues has reduced from 233 to 222, so I guess that's a good sign?
[11:50] <rye> NickL, this is a good sign, but why is it THAT slow?
[11:50] <NickL> Rye: I have no idea. I'm a millbank so we have plenty of bandwidth.
[11:55] <duanedesign> PaulGit: ubuntuone-client (1.1.90-0ubuntu1) lucid  does have the autostart
[11:58] <PaulGit> duanedesign: That's what I have installed, however the gnome and rythmbox integration got removed and won't install as they are expecting a different verison of ubuntuone-client maybe they will be upgraded later?  Should auto-connect work without these?  If so how does it work because it has not autoconnected.
[11:59] <rye> yummy - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/apport/ubuntu-bugpatterns/revision/122
[12:26] <rye> anybody against changing "Files are marked for deletion on server when syncdaemon is killed during sync" to "Capabilities mismatch error displayed for outdated clients with possible data loss bug"
[12:26] <rye> duanedesign, ^
[12:27] <rye> kermiac_, ^
[12:31] <kermiac> rye: awesome work wrt the bugpattern :)
[12:31] <rye> hm, ssl bugs need some more love :(
[12:32] <kermiac> rye: what are you reffering to with the last comment? what is getting changed, where? (sorry half asleep - it's been a long day)
[12:33] <rye> kermiac, ah, no, that was my debug output - the ssl bugs are not properly traced via bug partterns, need some adjustment but it is hard to say what exactly now, so I give the bug reports more love :)
[12:35] <kermiac> ok rye, have fun mate :)
[12:35] <kermiac> g'night
[12:35] <rye> kermiac, good night!
[12:40] <NickL> rye: the queue is still stuck at 222. 2010-04-01 12:38:10,902 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Main - NOTE - ---- MARK (state: <State: 'QUEUE_MANAGER'  (queues WORKING_ON_METADATA  connection 'With User With Network')>; queues: metadata: 222; content: 0; hash: 0, fsm-cache: hit=45041 miss=21970) ----
[12:41] <rye> verterok, could you please check why 11 metadata queries took 2 hours ^
[13:05] <duanedesign> rye: where are you changing that wording to 'Capabilities mismatch  error displayed for outdated clients with possible data loss bug
[13:05] <duanedesign> rye: where are you changing that wording to 'Capabilities mismatch  error displayed....'
[13:05] <duanedesign> oops
[13:06] <rye> duanedesign, bug #462828
[13:06] <rye> duanedesign, i have appended the "capabilities mismatch" thing so that this bug report looks related to the issue clients get
[13:08] <duanedesign>  yes that makes sense.
[13:16] <PaulGit> duanedesign: What's the latest version of ubuntuone-client-gnome?, repos show 1.1.4 but that does not work with 1.1.90 ubuntuone-client
[13:18] <jdobrien> PaulGit, hmm
[13:18] <jdobrien> PaulGit, so perhaps that's why it wasn't installed when I just did a dist-upgrade
[13:19] <PaulGit> jdobrien: I guess atleast I am happy it's not just a problem with my setup! ;)
[13:30] <rye> Automatic duplicate finder is now starting to work, in case you are sure that the duplicate status is wrong, please ping me and assign bugpattern-invalid-duplicate tag to the bug report for bugpatterns to be readjusted
[13:30] <rye> thanks!
[13:58] <duanedesign> PaulGit: ubuntuone-client-gnome_1.1.90-0ubuntu1
[13:59] <dobey> PaulGit: are you on 64 bit?
[14:00] <duanedesign> aha
[14:01] <duanedesign> i only see i386 and armel
[14:01] <duanedesign> dobey: is that correct?
[14:02] <dobey> huh?
[14:03] <dobey> now, of course having only some of the packages in the archive is not correct
[14:05] <PaulGit> dobey: Yes, 64bit
[14:05] <PaulGit> duanedesign: Thanks, looks like it has not made the 64bit repos yet...
[14:17] <rye> duanedesign, https://code.launchpad.net/~rye/apport/ubuntuone-bugpatterns - ubuntuone-client.* scripts that are used to make bugpatterns work with our key-less file names
[14:18] <duanedesign> rye: awesome!
[14:54] <diverse_izzue> honk. ubuntuone is not working for me on lucid, can somebody help with searching errors?
[14:55] <rye> diverse_izzue, yup, could you please describe the issue in more details?
[14:55] <diverse_izzue> rye, sure. so first thing, is there no autostart? after logging in, i don't have an ubuntuone process running
[14:56] <rye> diverse_izzue, could you please check what version of ubuntuone-client you are running - apt-cache policy ubuntuone-client
[14:57] <diverse_izzue> 1.1.90
[15:00] <rye> diverse_izzue, ok, could you please paste the contents of ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf ?
[15:03] <diverse_izzue> [bandwidth_throttling]read_limit = 0write_limit = 0on = False
[15:03] <diverse_izzue> (i condensed that to one line, there were line breaks)
[15:07] <fagan> aquarius: desktop couch is maxing out my cpu after the last lucid update
[15:07] <fagan> that and the ubuntuone-login
[15:07] <aquarius> fagan, yep. We're discussing that right now. It's not actually a desktopcouch problem; it's something to do with D-Bus and the gnome keyring, we think.
[15:07] <rye> diverse_izzue, could you please remove  ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf - bug #537610
[15:08] <aquarius> CardinalFang, what's the current best thought on the 100% CPU issue/
[15:08] <aquarius> fagan, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/549108
[15:08] <CardinalFang> aquarius, Fix libgnome-keyring0.
[15:09] <diverse_izzue> rye, sure, and then?
[15:09] <rye> diverse_izzue, u1sdtool --connect or use ubuntuone-preferences / MeMenu
[15:12] <diverse_izzue> rye, thanks. things are improving. the ui now claims "synchronising" as opposed to "disconnected" before
[15:13] <diverse_izzue> on the middle tab "devices" i have an error message, it might be the same as the bug describes, also sometihng about a value being zero
[15:14] <CardinalFang> Whoa.  "top" says Chrome is taking "9999" percent of my CPU.  Take that, desktopcouch.
[15:15] <rye> diverse_izzue, hm, is the error message present now?
[15:16] <diverse_izzue> rye, yes
[15:20] <rye> diverse_izzue, could you please close preferences window and open it again?
[15:22] <diverse_izzue> rye,  after i close it, apport appears, i reported that before, bug #553318)
[15:22] <diverse_izzue> after reopening, the error is the same
[15:22] <rye> o_O
[15:22] <rye> hm, I don't have access to that bug report
[15:22] <rye> diverse_izzue, ^
[15:23] <diverse_izzue> rye, changed to non-private
[15:25] <rye> diverse_izzue, thanks, hm
[15:25] <rye> diverse_izzue, trying to reproduce this
[15:26] <diverse_izzue> rye,  great, let me know if i can help
[15:28] <rye> The devices connected with your __pseronal__ cloud network are listed below???
[15:28] <diverse_izzue> that's what it says, yes
[15:29] <rye> joshuahoover, ^
[15:29] <joshuahoover> rye: catching up...
[15:29] <rye> joshuahoover, only last 3 replies
[15:29] <dobey> oh ffs
[15:30]  * dobey bangs his head upon his DESKTOP
[15:30] <PaulGit> dobey: Wassup?
[15:31] <joshuahoover> rye: so diverse_izzue deleted his syncdaemon.conf file and still gets this error?
[15:32] <rye> joshuahoover, well, i was pointing at "pseronal" actually, checking how to reproduce that issue now
[15:32] <diverse_izzue> joshuahoover, yes. the syncdaemon.conf file has been created again though, and still looks the same
[15:32] <joshuahoover> rye: ah
[15:33] <rye> diverse_izzue, i believe i know why
[15:33] <dobey> PaulGit: apparently one shouldn't make changes to code at 7:30 pm after working for like 10 hours
[15:33] <rye> or not
[15:33] <PaulGit> dobey: Indeed this is correct because you will end up spending 10 hours fixing it ;)
[15:34] <dobey> no, you will make a stupid typo
[15:34] <rye> diverse_izzue, reproduced the crash
[15:34] <dobey> like 'pseronal'
[15:35] <PaulGit> dobey: I once tried to 'reconfigure' xorg after returning from the pub....not a smart move.
[15:35] <dobey> rye, diverse_izzue: i see what the problem for your issue is
[15:36] <diverse_izzue> dobey, great, will you share the epiphany?
[15:36] <joshuahoover> dobey: don't feel bad...how about those of us who reviewed it and let it pass? :)
[15:36] <dobey> joshuahoover: it wasn't reviewed
[15:37] <joshuahoover> dobey: psernoal cloud network? hmmm...i thought it was
[15:37] <dobey> diverse_izzue: it looks like handle_bw_controls_changed() uses a timeout
[15:38] <rye> dobey, again!... 0 as the write limit...
[15:38] <dobey> rye: different problem
[15:38] <dobey> joshuahoover: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-control-tower/ubuntuone-client/trunk/revision/467
[15:39] <dobey> diverse_izzue: handle_bw_controls_changed() uses a timeout_add_seconds()
[15:40] <dobey> diverse_izzue: so apparently there's a little race going on
[15:40] <rye> STR: remove syncdaemon.conf, start ubuntuone-preferences with 0 write/read entry. - syncdaemon is started, ubuntuone-preferences displays error
[15:40] <rye> quit ubuntuone-preferences -> syncdemon.conf ends with 0 as write limit which breaks it again and again
[15:41] <dobey> STOP PUTTING 0 IN THE ENTRIES THEN :)
[15:41] <rye> dobey, tell that to older ubuntuone-client-applet versions
[15:41] <rye> diverse_izzue, to resolve this you will need to quit syncdaemon - u1sdtool --quit then remove the config and you will be fine then
[15:42] <rye> dobey, we are alarming about 0 as the value EVEN if BANDWIDTH THROTTLING is DISABLED
[15:42]  * rye did not scream, IRC laks bold font
[15:42] <dobey> rye: then fix syncdaemon
[15:42] <rye> lacks
[15:42] <dobey> irc has bold
[15:43] <dobey> *see*
[15:43] <rye> ah
[15:43] <dobey> well, i don't know if xchat/pidgin/whatever make that bold
[15:43] <dobey> but irssi does
[15:43] <rye> xchat does not
[15:46] <diverse_izzue> rye, that, and a log out, then it's solved
[15:46] <diverse_izzue> but, rye, is it normal that ubuntuone doesn't automatically start on login?
[15:47] <dobey> i am an idiot.
[15:48] <rye> diverse_izzue, your bug report will be the first one with proper bug pattern, congratulations! :)
[15:48] <dobey> diverse_izzue: apparently also my bad
[15:49] <diverse_izzue> rye, how so?
[15:49] <diverse_izzue> dobey, did you remove the xdg autostart file from the package?
[15:49] <dobey> diverse_izzue: no
[15:49] <dobey> diverse_izzue: i forgot to add them to the package
[15:50] <diverse_izzue> ah :-)
[15:50] <diverse_izzue> same effect
[16:01] <rye> diverse_izzue, re: bugpattern - try submitting the same crash report  - it will decline that
[16:03] <diverse_izzue> rye, i don't get the crash anymore, so i can't :-) but i believe what you say
[16:48] <PaulGit> Nope, trust me.
[16:48] <PaulGit> Ooops
[17:35] <dobey> rye: is ubuntuone-client-gnome stll out of sync for 64bit?
[17:56] <rockstar> honk
[17:57] <CardinalFang> rockstar, welcome.  Proceed.
[17:57] <rockstar> CardinalFang, :)  I bought some music on the music store yesterday morning and it still hasn't made its way to my machine.
[18:06] <CardinalFang> rockstar, hrm.  Sorry about that.  Open a terminal and type:  u1sdtool -s
[18:06] <CardinalFang> What is the "State" line?
[18:07] <rockstar> CardinalFang, State: QUEUE_MANAGER
[18:14] <CardinalFang> rockstar, just past the entire results, updated now.  Say if anything is different than last time.
[18:20] <rockstar> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/407668/
[18:21] <rockstar> CardinalFang, nothing is different than the first time.
[18:23] <vds> PaulGit: I've seen the logs and there's nothing useful there so I guess I'll add some more logging and ask you to test again
[18:24] <PaulGit> vds:OK, I will get prepared.  Let me know when you are ready!
[18:25] <vds> PaulGit: thanks a lot!
[18:32] <PaulGit> vds: Ready whenever you are, will be monitoring channel all evening....
[18:40] <rockstar> CardinalFang, any joy?
[18:43] <CardinalFang> rye, any advice for rockstar?
[18:46] <rye> CardinalFang, rockstar, syncdaemon is IDLE, so it means that it does not receive anything from the servers. rockstar, could you please try to restart syncdaemon - u1sdtool -q; u1sdtool --connect ?
[18:49] <rockstar> rye, so, the store still thinks it's transferring the music to the storage.
[18:49] <rye> rockstar, hm... so you can't actually get the music from /files/ web interface?
[18:49] <CardinalFang> maybe.  your computer think it should be.
[18:51] <rockstar> rye, I don't usually use the web interface, but I can confirm they aren't available there.
[18:51] <rye> aquarius, ^
[18:52] <aquarius> rockstar, hey. I'm really frantically trying to get stuff released right now; will you be around in a little while?
[18:52] <rockstar> aquarius, absolutely.  In fact, I'm trying to get work done myself, but didn't want to go without making sure the bug was an issue.
[18:52] <rockstar> Later is better for me.
[18:53] <rye> CardinalFang, regarding desktopcouch 100% cpu usage and unwilling to replicate thing - is it fixed for desktopcouch?
[18:54] <CardinalFang> rye, I'm testing.
[18:54] <CardinalFang> rye, offhand, I think it's not.  I must reboot a few times and construct a timeline.
[19:05] <aquarius> CardinalFang, nice work closing all those dbus segfault bugs. I bet that felt good.
[19:07] <CardinalFang> aquarius, yeah.  I wish it were over.  Still in the aftermath of the "fix" for it in libgnome-keyring.
[19:16] <Bookman> Hey everyone!  I get this today when I try to start up Ubuntu One: Failed to execute child process "ubuntuone-client-applet" (No such file or directory)
[19:17] <CardinalFang> Hi Bookman.  How are you trying to start it up?
[19:18] <Bookman> Applications>Internet>Ubuntu One
[19:19] <CardinalFang> Bookman, weird.  We threw out the applet, and there shouldn't be a menu for it now.
[19:19] <Bookman> I just updated about 15 minutes ago
[19:21] <CardinalFang> Bookman, okay, well the only thing *wrong* so far is that you have an out-of-date menu item.
[19:22] <Bookman> How should it be started now?
[19:22] <CardinalFang> Bookman, via Nautilus, iirc, as a plugin.
[19:23] <CardinalFang> Bookman, this is getting out of my expertise now.
[19:26] <Bookman> No problem.  anyone else?  Do I have to re-install to get it all working?
[19:41] <Bookman> honk
[19:47] <CardinalFang> Bookman, what are you looking for?  If you run "u1sdtool -s", does it say it's connected?
[19:49] <Bookman> I just want to connect here.  It says not connected
[19:50] <Bookman> I have no idea how to start the service.
[19:51] <CardinalFang> Bookman, Hrm,  it should start on its own.  u1sdtool --start  to force it.
[19:51] <rye> CardinalFang, hm... what if users have xdg link to ubuntuone-client-applet still, in autostart
[19:52] <rye> CardinalFang, the one that was implanted by ubuntuone-applet
[19:52] <rye> client applet
[19:52] <dobey> rye: it doesn't matter
[19:52] <dobey> the autostart is irrelevant
[19:52] <dobey> if it doesn't exist, it won't start :)
[19:53] <dobey> CardinalFang: btw, no, nautilus doesn't start the syncdaemon
[19:54] <CardinalFang> dobey, Oh.  I thought it would.  On the to-do list or something.
[19:54] <Bookman> CardinalFang, I don't want to force it.  I just want to provide feedback and actually have it work properly.
[19:54] <CardinalFang> Bookman, agreed.
[19:55] <dobey> CardinalFang: there's a new wrapper script, and autostart file, which will do, but forgot to actually add them to the right package, so they're missing from the deb package still :(
[19:59] <CardinalFang> Aw dang.
[20:07] <Bookman> I assume that is the problem I'm seeing?
[20:09] <CardinalFang> rye, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgnome-keyring/+bug/530605
[20:09] <CardinalFang> rye, comments at end.
[20:10] <rye> dobey, hm, nautilus calls ubuntuone status for get root, etc, so it should start syncdaemon
[20:10] <dobey> no
[20:10] <dobey> well yes but no
[20:11] <dobey> it only does it when you enter the Ubuntu One folder
[20:11] <dobey> there is some funky logic there
[20:11] <rye> Ctrl-\...
[20:22] <mxpxpod> is there a PPA for the ubuntuone client that is in lucid for karmic?
[20:27] <rye> CardinalFang, hm, after some update desktopcouch is no longer eating my CPU
[20:28] <CardinalFang> rye, reliably?  It doesn't about half of the times I start it.
[20:29] <rye> mxpxpod, I believe the PPAs for karmic were suspended until the issue with missing applet/me-menu is resolved
[20:30] <mxpxpod> rye: oh, ok
[20:30] <mxpxpod> thanks
[20:49] <dobey> rye: what issue?
[21:00] <rye> dobey, the applet already does not exist in karmic ppa but me-menu is not available there
[21:00] <dobey> rye: the me menu is irrelevant
[21:00] <rye> dobey, hm, but I wonder whether we need me-menu for karmic
[21:00] <dobey> we don't, no
[21:00] <rye> dobey, if it autostarts
[21:00] <dobey> rye: either way it doesn't matter
[21:00] <dobey> rye: System->Preferences->Ubuntu One
[21:01] <rye> ok, i found yet another bug with  my laptop & lucid (& probably nouveau)
[21:01] <rye> if I disconnect AC then reconnect it, X hangs
[21:01] <rye> awesome
[21:42] <Bookman> I just uploaded again, and ubuntu one tried to start but crash.  Reported already.
[21:43] <Bookman> *updated
[22:26] <Technoviking> Chipaca: no change after update, still have to start U1 maunually for file sync
[23:14] <dobey> Technoviking: if you're using packages, 1.1.91 fixes that
[23:22] <Technoviking> still have 1.1.90, will wait for update
[23:34] <rickspencer3> aquarius, how do I list all the databases in my desktop couch (in python)
[23:39] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, ^ ?
[23:55] <aquarius> rickspencer3, list them all programmatically?
[23:57] <aquarius> rickspencer3, python -c "from desktopcouch.records.server import CouchDatabase; db=CouchDatabase('management'); print [x for x in db._server]"