[00:00] james147: u cant help me? [00:01] FremenBlue: sorry, not very fimilar with patching things [00:01] u familiar with irc? [00:02] can u tell me how to auto-identify myself to nickserv? [00:02] i using quassel [00:02] FremenBlue, #freenode [00:02] FremenBlue: I think you have to register the nick somewhere [00:02] alrdy did [00:02] its just i get a message from nickserv asking for password that is rlly annoying [00:03] FremenBlue: and then put the login info in the settings [00:03] thanks james [00:03] i g2g now [00:03] l8ter [00:04] anyone helping me on the issue I have come accross? === ncc1701 is now known as seawolf [00:06] Maranatha: How did you install your flash player? [00:06] not a clue really. I don't remember. I think it was through chrome [00:07] !flash [00:07] To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [00:07] Hm === henkka is now known as Henzeh [00:07] kubuntu.fi [00:08] !!fi [00:08] Tämä kanava on tarkoitettu vain englanninkieliselle keskustelulle. Jos haluat suomenkielistä apua (K)ubuntun ongelmiin, liity kanavalle #ubuntu-fi / #kubuntu-fi :-) [00:10] genii: I ran into an error at the end "E: Couldn't find package flashplugin64-installer" [00:10] !pastebin [00:10] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [00:11] genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/407789/ [00:11] http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/ [00:12] fabio333: Desist with that in here please [00:12] : you know what us that? [00:12] is* [00:13] fabio333: I looked at the link yes. It's offtopic for this channel. Push websites in another place and not here please [00:14] flash related.... === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [00:27] genii: I am still having the same issue === dark is now known as Guest36137 === ubuntu is now known as Ahmed\ [00:38] hi [00:38] hi [00:38] i gotta questio [00:38] question ! [00:39] ask maybe i can help you out [00:39] i mean why the hell i can't pause or resize the youtube's videos on flash SOME TIMES ? [00:39] Oh ! would be nice it happens some times [00:39] i hate that and on other browser SAME THING [00:39] On Ubuntu? [00:39] yeah [00:39] Gnome [00:39] or KDE where ever you go [00:40] Well if both browser got it maybe you should talk to the devolper of the flash :) [00:40] but you can pause on by pressing the SPACE bar on keyboard but cant by mouse clicks [00:40] uhh [00:40] Man i mean it works fine since i installed that stupid thing adblockplus [00:40] Well i also pause sometimes the youtube with space on windows [00:41] OMG I can use that TAB THANKS DUDE [00:41] Yes same thing with me [00:41] i have to pause by space [00:41] cause mouse doesnt really works sometimes [00:41] Well if it workse [00:41] or unless you clear or clean up the history completely [00:42] Hmmm [00:42] are you new here? [00:42] I mean i really am :) [00:43] Yes i am new here [00:43] Switched from windows ah gates good bye :$ [00:43] first day [00:43] OMG thats good [00:43] :) We can be friends [00:43] Well i did use Ubuntu a time ago [00:43] but it never did like overcome me to just use that [00:43] uh [00:43] :) we can [00:43] Oh well ! i see [00:43] Old user then [00:44] Backtrack 4 made me do that :) [00:44] umm i didn't heard about that [00:44] i guess idid [00:44] whats that anyway ? [00:44] Backtrack? [00:44] Yeah === leigh is now known as grindey [00:48] does anybody know how to use rythmbox to put songs onto ipod? [00:48] or what program is best [00:49] !ipod [00:49] For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod [00:49] thanks === jeff_ is now known as jovis [01:28] Hello, [01:28] please someone help me.. [01:28] i need 64-bit flash player on my 64-bit linux [01:29] Well [01:29] Download it [01:30] :) [01:30] hello everyone [01:30] I use ubuntu 9.10 64-bit [01:30] OKAAY OKAY I HEARD YOU i also use the same [01:30] hmm [01:30] well [01:30] please help [01:30] i'm beginner [01:30] ne7work: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [01:30] See my OT messages ! [01:31] OT? ane you an operating thetan? [01:31] hehe [01:31] i am using gyachi 1.2.6 that i have compiled from the source, in every version of the gyachi, the voice chat plugin crashes when i press the off button in it. this does not work and i havnt heared a voice yet [01:32] i tried to see if i get any error message in the termnal but nothing [01:33] someone here told a command to trace a program few days back, forgot it, can anyone tell me [01:40] i am using gyachi 1.2.6 that i have compiled from the source, in every version of the gyachi, the voice chat plugin crashes when i press the off button in it. this does not work and i havnt heared a voice yet [01:40] i tried to see if i get any error message in the termnal but nothing [01:40] someone here told a command to trace a program few days back, forgot it, can anyone tell me [01:43] I have this issue when trying to play youtube videos in full screen "The following plug-in has crashed: /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so" [01:44] in chromium [01:44] can you play flash at all? [01:44] like with firefox? [01:48] is there a channel for gyachi [01:48] jovis: I can [01:49] then its a browser problem [01:49] uninstall and reinstall might fix it? [01:49] dobut it but maybe [01:49] ah ok [01:58] i need help :( [02:01] is there a known memory leak in plasma-desktop? [02:01] why? [02:02] because I have to kill it every couple of days when it's using like 1gb of memory [02:04] when idle? [02:05] punto: some reported the same thing [02:06] punto: what is your kde version [02:07] when can I see the version? [02:07] 4.3.2 [02:07] ne7work: what do you need help with [02:08] on kubuntu 9.10 [02:09] punto: i experienced the same, but i upgarded and the program is gone [02:09] program? [02:10] v1ttu: problem.sorry typing mistake [02:10] problem? [02:10] phoenix__: is there a package that can be upgraded? [02:11] punto: check in the system activity, whether the process java is consuming the resources [02:11] do you know how to upgrade your kde version punto? [02:11] v1ttu: no [02:12] hmmm [02:12] i think it would be a good idea to upgrade to 4.4.2 [02:12] do you have a second pc nearby? [02:13] yeah.. with windows [02:13] punto:sudo apt-get upgarde [02:13] sweet [02:13] punto: sudo apt-get upgrade [02:13] phoenix__: is there 1 package that will trigger the upgrade of just kde? [02:13] o yeah, you have installed updats yeah? [02:13] updates* [02:14] probably not === punto is now known as punto_work [02:22] hi === vorian is now known as v === v is now known as vorian [02:44] Hi Gab, I am a new user. trying to connect here [02:44] hello :) [02:44] you're connected just fine [02:44] Hi [02:45] I was not sure how to set a pw and user name but it seems I don't have to, [02:46] Is this a Kubuntu 10.04 beta forum? [02:46] on irc? if you want you can pick a nick thats not taken yet and register it for the server. [02:46] !register [02:46] Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick » to select your nickname. Registration help available in #freenode [02:46] actually this is support for the current stable releases. if you're running the upcoming version, visit #ubuntu+1 [02:47] Thanx! I'll try to find that. I am new with this irc also [02:48] you can type "/join #ubuntu+1" to get there (no quotes) [02:48] peter__: also, if you say someone's name, they'll likely get a notification from their client that someone's talking to them [02:49] Thank you [02:49] join #ubuntu+1 [02:49] you need the / [03:20] i think i screwed up folks [03:21] i installed kubuntu over lucid [03:21] did i make a fail? [03:21] all i get is a terminal... [03:21] did you do it from a cd and overwrite the lucid install and go "aww but i wanted lucid!" [03:21] nah [03:21] or did you just install kubuntu-desktop within lucid? cuz thats totally cool [03:21] that one [03:21] but there's no desktop to manage [03:22] all i have is a terminal window [03:22] do you get kdm? [03:22] someone else said today in #kubuntu-devel that after they login at kdm the plasma-desktop doesnt load [03:22] yeah [03:22] the login looks alright, and the mouse looks right but there's no desktop enviroment [03:22] well if you've got a terminal you can type "plasma-desktop" in it [03:23] alright [03:23] funfact, i might have to close xchat to do so [03:23] brb [03:23] no window manager, eh? [03:26] yes, KDE is very snazzy, too bad i can't really use it. closing the instance of terminal logs me out :P [03:27] and it's always on top [03:27] very odd [03:27] is there a way to MANUALLY set plasma to autostart? [03:29] recap, plasma ain't workin in my lucid install. i just get a terminal [03:30] a super-terminal in fact, the computer freaks out if i close it [03:31] anyone? [03:32] upgraded to 9.10 the other night now wireless wont connect. anyone got any good suggestions on where to start? [03:32] adapter on, network manager active? [03:34] network manager active, adapter shows active [03:34] hmm [03:34] just wont connect [03:34] what does it do when you try to connect? does it show any networks in the list? [03:34] Atamisk: i think its a bug [03:34] ahh [03:34] figures [03:35] workaround? [03:35] yes it shows the networks in the list [03:35] whoa, echo [03:35] thanks maco [03:35] *sigh* shoulda done testing before upgrading, everytime i don't test i get bit, but if i do everything works fine [03:36] how would've i tested it? [03:37] i'm talking about my situation. usually i run from LIVE CD and see if it works [03:37] i got kubuntu directly from the internet. it's overlaid over my regular lucid-ubuntu [03:37] ah [03:37] got confizz'd [03:38] i had issues with 9.10 too, but my wireless usually worked [03:38] try restarting your adapter? [03:39] been there too. trying to research from windows then if i find a solution that needs network connection to fix i'll have to go upstairs to the router :( [03:39] ugh [03:39] what a pain [03:39] was hoping someone would have seen it enough that it would be easy suggestion [03:40] brb, switching back over to gnome until i figure this craziness out [03:43] aaaand we're back in gnome [03:43] (with kubuntu's mouse pointer. go figure [03:43] now, to peruse the interwebs for a fix!! [03:44] whats the prob atamisk? [03:45] plasma won't load [03:45] all i get is a single-use terminal [03:47] v1ttu, any ideas? [03:49] yup [03:49] eh [03:49] do u have a seond pc nearby? [03:49] second** [03:49] yeah, running windows though [03:49] kk sweet [03:49] whyfor? [03:49] just to check [03:49] ah [03:50] are u sure the default session isnt xterminal? [03:50] shouldn't be, but how do i check? [03:50] are you using windows or linux now? [03:50] (well actually right now i know it's GDM but it helps to know :P) [03:50] gnome linux [03:50] i see [03:50] ok [03:51] do you have autologin? [03:51] no [03:51] ok [03:51] on the login screen look for sessions [03:51] select session [03:51] or whatever its called ingnome [03:51] buttttttttt [03:51] if your logged into gnome [03:51] nvm [03:51] im being dumb [03:52] well, it takes 2 seconds to reconfig and reboot [03:52] what happens when you try to log into kde? [03:52] i get to log in normally (with KDE's login) then it drops me into a terminal [03:52] kdm? [03:52] yah [03:52] kdm [03:53] ic [03:53] did u install kde alongside gnome? [03:53] the terminal refuses to move, and there's no window around it [03:53] yep [03:53] okkkkkkkk [03:53] using synaptic [03:53] do you know about ctrl+atl+f1? [03:53] yes [03:54] you know how to login that way? [03:54] yes [03:54] sweet [03:54] try this [03:54] login thru CTRL+ALT+f1 [03:54] then start plasma? [03:54] then run sudo rm -r ,kde [03:54] sudo rm -r .kde [03:54] wait wat? [03:54] lol [03:54] okkkkkkkk [03:55] ill pm ya [03:55] okay [04:17] hello.. all loners === peter is now known as Guest89093 [04:57] How do I install KDE4 9.10 using KDE3 9.04 [04:58] Can someone answer my question please [05:07] my ipod doesent seem to work with ubuntu can anyone help === leigh is now known as grindey [05:09] grindey, using which app to access it, what version of ubuntu/kubuntu ; what make / model of iPod [05:10] ive tried rythmbox, banshee and gtkpod [05:10] version of Ubuntu/Kubuntu, what make/model of iPod [05:11] i am using 8 gb a1285 ipod [05:11] ubuntu 9.10 [05:12] rythmbox is somhow able to read the files but i now apparently have o songs on my ipod [05:12] the other apps cannot recognise that my ipod is mounted [05:13] the desktop does show the ipod icon and my ipods name [05:13] touch? nano? video? [05:13] nano sorry [05:13] odd [05:13] nano works fine here [05:14] i have no idea whats going on with it [05:14] once the ipod is plugged in should banshee or gtkpod recognise its there [05:14] you could try the iFuse PPA, or wait for next version of Ubuntu/Kubuntu when it will be native [05:14] yes, but the issue is not being able to copy songs I would imagine [05:15] ie you can see it, but nothing is changed once you remove it [05:15] yea, it has deleted all my songs off the ipod [05:15] but when i plug it in, rythmbox is able to access my music ? lol [05:15] and play it [05:16] never had that issue. just trying to remove/copy and nothing is changed once removed [05:17] is there a way to test if it is mounting correctly [05:18] I downloaded a program how do I install it through terminal [05:19] Can anyone help me with the mount command: http://pastebin.com/R44M8GNc === jeff_ is now known as Guest26744 === Guest26744 is now known as Flanker [06:16] how can i export my packagelist in kubuntu 9.10? [06:17] i want all my progs use on my second pc === frenando is now known as HOMOEROTICUS [06:35] How do I switch from Ubuntu to Kubuntu? [06:36] robbit10, install package kubuntu-desktop [06:36] !purekde | robbit10 [06:36] robbit10: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » [06:36] bazhang: thanks, that's what i was looking for :) [06:59] !purekde > robbit10 [06:59] robbit10, please see my private message [07:05] bazhang: I'm getting an error when trying to uninstall KDE using the Manual instructions. The automatic one only removes the ubuntu-desktop metapackage [07:05] hmm? [07:05] just install kubuntu-desktop add kde to your system [07:05] erm, i meant GNOME, sorry [07:05] i was distracted a bit [07:06] i read wrong too.... read "trying to install kde" [07:06] pastebin the error? [07:06] no, i want to remove all the GNOME programs from my system, because they're cluttering up the KDE menu [07:06] okay [07:07] maco: http://pastie.org/private/srvym2mbgx3i224csziw [07:09] robbit10: any chance youre on lucid right now? [07:10] cuz there is at least one major kde package in a not-installable state right now with lucid [07:10] which could confuse it [07:10] and what happens if you just run "sudo apt-get install -f"? [07:26] maco: I'm not on lucid, but I used the KDE SC 4.4 from the backports PPA (in the topic) to install Kubuntu. I'll try apt-get install -f [07:27] maco: That did nothing. apt-get -f didn't detect any errors. [07:27] hrmph [07:27] does aptitude why-not say anything useful if you tell it the packages that it says will not be installed? [07:29] maco: http://www.pastie.org/private/bgvhx28v667tszdlxxnw [07:31] hmm try removing phonon-backend-null and replacing with phonon-backend-xine? [07:32] maco: sudo aptitude remove phonon-backend-null didn't do anything, and neither did aptitude install phonon-backend-xine :S [07:33] :-/ [07:33] maco: I tried apt-get, and it tells that phonon-backend-xine is installed and phonon-backend-null is not installed [07:34] i got lucid and i was wondering how i can get kubuntu-desktop on it? I get a bunch of depends but wont be installed messages, any ideas? [07:35] demism: you could ask in #ubuntu+1 - that's for lucid [07:36] moetunes: thanks :) [07:36] np :) [07:40] aptitude says the Phonon packages AND kubuntu-desktop in the PPA are broken. [07:43] maco: Do you think i should first install the official Kubuntu packages, then upgrade them via the PPA? [08:02] since i updated kdeSC 4.4.1 to 4.4.2 from PPA, i have a problem with netbook interface [08:03] can someone help me ? [08:16] please, is there someone who can do some support here ? [08:17] Seazor: for ? [08:19] since i updated kdeSC 4.4.1 to 4.4.2 from PPA, i have a problem with netbook interface [08:21] the panel at the top of the screen appear only when plasma (the "desktop") is the application with the focus [08:22] it disapear when you click on another window [08:36] Anyone knows of this is supposed to work for batch download with wget? -> wget http://example.com/slide{1-5}.jpg [08:36] njathan: try [1..5] [08:39] tried that... it doesn't recognize the metachars... just looks for the file named slide[1..5].jpg, and eventually returns a 404 [08:39] interesting [08:40] I cannot remember how this kind of thig is supposed to be done [08:40] the guy in this thread uses a tiny script, which i am sure will work.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4325744&postcount=9 [08:40] but i was just wondering why wget does not understand standard metachars [08:42] Tm_T: whups! worked.... silde{1..5}.jpg does the trick! [08:42] njathan: aah, great (: [08:45] Can anyone help me with my Kontact problem? [08:48] mfraz74: someone might try provided you ask the right queston [08:50] I upgraded to kde 4.4.2 yesterday and I think I've sorted out Akonadi, but I can't get Kontact to respond to anything after I load it [08:55] The individual programs work - KOrganizer, KAddressBook, KMail etc but not Kontact === dev_ is now known as dev__ [09:06] kubuntu some version. I forget the command to check for programs. [09:06] console command [09:08] Serpardum: what you need to do? [09:09] configure: line 475: cas: command not found so I need to find what program cas is [09:10] and install it [09:11] gah, n/m [09:11] it's the last line of the script file [09:11] cas [09:11] and I"m sure it was supposed to be case [09:11] and got cut off [09:11] basically I have an incomplete configure file. thanks [09:13] hi [09:17] hi aantsa [09:18] testing Quassel irc software [09:19] it seems to be working on our end, that is, we see what you are typing [09:20] good, and even I can join my favorite channel in quakenet [09:20] not bad :D [09:21] because I am really newbie with kubuntu [09:22] this is good [09:22] quassel [09:23] I can hide everykind happens [09:23] join, quit... [09:28] why can't I get Kontact up and running? Aaaagh [09:33] seeya, need to go [09:51] Why is search not working in lucid [09:51] apparle: lucid help in #ubuntu+1 (: [09:52] Tm_T: but all the people there don't consider Kubuntu in ubuntu+1... so I won't get any help regarding KDE [09:53] apparle: they should [09:54] Tm_T: they should but there's no one who uses lucid kubuntu... so I get negligible help regarding it [09:55] apparle: we are there (: [09:55] Tm_T: alright you help me out there [09:55] as much as I can === ubuntu is now known as Ahmed [09:57] tm_T [09:58] How do i use aircrack :) i have installed but doesnt seem to work :) === Ahmed is now known as Guest6680 [09:58] Ahmed: I have never used it, sorry === Guest6680 is now known as Ahmed\ [09:58] OH [09:58] Any other to crack into wifi ? [09:59] no, I don't do such things, especially as it's often considered illegal [09:59] HUH [09:59] I'm having my internal IP from US of A and you think its illegal [09:59] Oh great [10:00] Ahmed\: no, I don't say that is illegal [10:00] hhhhhh [10:06] hi === jonathan1 is now known as mutanabbi [10:08] hi [10:08] Oh you !!!!! [10:08] @_@ [10:08] Ahmed\: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [10:10] The official kubuntu support doesn't seem to be flooded right now, do you mind if i just drop some general questions on how it all works or should i just keep researching? [10:10] iam back [10:10] just ask [10:10] okay [10:10] welcome back [10:10] thx :) [10:10] Chris, i need 3gp codecs [10:11] for Mplayer [10:11] WHERE DO I GET THEM [10:11] :) [10:11] Ahmed\: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [10:11] dont suggest me a VLC oh please [10:11] hmmm wait [10:11] !codecs [10:11] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [10:11] I mean i just dont get the voice but video works [10:12] did you already tried the cheapeds trick [10:12] Ahmed\: kubuntu-restricted-extras should give you all you need. [10:12] ok [10:12] and make sure pulse audio is disabled if you have it installed. [10:12] i have it installed from the day 1 [10:13] yes so how do i enable the audio :) O_o [10:13] loook for drivers [10:13] Ahmed\: make sure pulse is uninstalled/disabled. [10:13] no no its not about drivers [10:13] Okay wait [10:14] dude there are like dozens of pulse installed [10:14] which to uninstall / === 77CAAGHWX is now known as Twin_ge_ [10:15] difference between ubuntu-restricted-extras and kubuntu-restricted-extras [10:15] ? [10:17] Okay well guys i cant see my desktop after an application didnt respont [10:17] respond [10:17] mmm [10:18] well [10:18] yeah [10:18] unless i logout [10:18] it wont be back [10:18] :) [10:18] Ahmed\: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [10:18] :P [10:18] HUH [10:19] how did it go [10:20] all i can see is desktop background [10:20] ??? [10:20] ??? [10:21] what happened? [10:21] i mean i lost my desktop icons [10:22] oh [10:22] did you look on screen 2 and 1 [10:22] nO [10:22] there same [10:30] WHy can't i get voice on a 3gp formats on mplayer ? [10:30] only video appears [10:38] Since i started using linux and ubuntu derivates i have had problems with my videodrivers (for an ati card) i wonder how the drivers fro kubuntu work [10:39] they seem ok - for a guide to set them up [10:39] !ati [10:39] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [10:40] thanks, i think i checked most howtos out though, but i'll check into this one [10:48] I use irssi, is there any way to hide info on people moving in and out of the chat? [10:50] #kubuntu-develop [10:53] mutanabbi:from here - http://linuxreviews.org/software/irc/ - To hide join/parts in a channel, try /help ignore for instructions. === nathan_ is now known as waveadeadchicken === james is now known as Guest97668 === Guest97668 is now known as jamesth [11:42] which desktop do you think is better "Gnome- KDE - Xfce - lxde" [11:43] esay, matter of opinion, try them out yourself. chat in #kubuntu-offtopic please [11:43] esay, or you could ask bestbot in #ubuntu-bots [11:45] ok [11:50] Is there a good, safe way to simply switch Kwin for a nice flexible tiling wm? [11:50] mutanabbi, install one? [11:51] Yeah, but then i have to replace it afterwards right? Or use it as a second session? [12:08] if i just replace kwin with --replace this will not be a premanent change? [12:08] mutanabbi, using compiz? which wm were you referring to [12:09] I am using compiz right now, but i would like to use a tiling wm, like awesome or wmii === peto_ is now known as peto [13:01] hello, i could never got my laptop mic work properly in kubuntu and skype even i bought a new laptop and latest version of kubuntu [13:01] please help me [13:03] hello anybody here ? [13:07] hello anybody there ? [13:27] Hello please help me === silvia_ is now known as Dolasilla === jeff_ is now known as Guest35046 === Guest35046 is now known as jovis [13:46] is there any way of starting the Akonadi configuration from scratch? === Zin is now known as ZinBr [13:51] removing the old one would have this effect [13:51] is there no more eclipse-cdt package in 10.04? [13:52] Machtin, #ubuntu+1 for lucid [13:52] how much of it can i remove? [13:52] mh, k [13:54] how i install the controller video ati radeon x1200 in kubuntu 9.10? [13:56] maybe go to their website [13:56] and download the linux drivers === xristos is now known as Guest16653 === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [14:07] hellow [14:10] hallow [14:12] someone are french ? [14:14] voulez vous? [14:17] je debute sur linux etc.. je découvre Quassel irc la [14:18] que pasa? [14:18] burrito supreme? [14:19] ? [14:19] sorry i was speaking mexican [14:19] ok [14:21] comment avez-vous découvert l'IRC ? === ubuntu is now known as Denis23423525 [14:22] ci sono italiani __? [14:22] si [14:22] scusa amico ti posso fare una domanda in privato su kubuntu ? [14:23] che lo appena installato e noto una cosa che nn dovrebbe esserci === ubuntu is now known as Denis23423525 === Denis23423525 is now known as ubuntu === ubuntu is now known as Denis23423525 [14:48] hey [14:49] que pasa === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [15:12] 'morning [15:17] Someone are french ? [15:18] !fr | swat-graph [15:18] swat-graph: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois === hrna is now known as hrna_ === hrna_ is now known as hrna [15:43] Hola [15:44] Hablo Español [15:44] !es [15:44] En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [15:44] Hay alguien ahí === robin is now known as Guest1508 [15:52] john__: por lo general si [15:53] taco supreme [16:02] I have an RV250 which fglrx dropped support for, and radeon is being horribly slow. what do you guys think is better-debugging radeon or using an old fglrx which supports my card? [16:04] I would just buy a working card but this one's soldered to my laptop's main board and would be hard to replace :( === root is now known as Guest99542 === dso400 is now known as oppeckerd === leaf__ is now known as Guest403 [16:57] I've found a bug in how kubuntu handles pptp connections -- how do I go about reporting it? [16:58] !bug [16:58] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [16:58] Basically, when a pptp connection is made, it routes all traffic via the pptp connection, rather than just the traffic destined for the far network [16:58] I had to manually alter the routing table to stop all my *downloads* going via the vpn! [17:05] kopete supports proxy? === Guest403 is now known as vleaf === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:14] can kate autocomplete python files Vs just doing syntax highlighting? [17:15] vbgunz_: kate has vary basic autocompete, i think it just completes words you have already typed in the document :) [17:16] yeah, I see that :/ [17:16] vbgunz_: keep iun mind its `just` ment to be a text editor not an ide [17:17] yeah, just autocompletion and nothing else would be grand. [17:17] its all good [17:21] I prefer kate for its sensiblity in simplicity....... no better text editor than kate [17:22] apparle: and has more features then any other text editor i have seen, even vi input mode which is nice [17:23] James147: I never used vi... but hats off to kate... [17:24] apparle: vi can be nice, if you take the time to learn how to use it... very powerful but a very large learning curve :S [17:37] hey guys [17:38] is here someone knowing what to do with soundproblems [17:38] ? [17:38] !sound | maddin [17:38] maddin: If you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [17:40] kay thx already tried to solve the problem by searching in forums [17:40] what sound problems? [17:40] kubuntu 9.10 drivers for the soundchip are loaded [17:40] no soundtest works [17:41] root@oichl:/home/martin# cat /proc/asound/cards [17:41] 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel [17:41] HDA Intel at 0xf9ff8000 irq 22 [17:46] root@oichl:/home/martin# aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.wav [17:46] No protocol specified [17:46] XOpenDisplay() fehlgeschlagen [17:46] No protocol specified [17:46] XOpenDisplay() fehlgeschlagen [17:46] maddin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [17:46] Wiedergabe Wave '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Samplingrate: 48000 Hz, Mono [17:48] sry is it wrong to paste something with enter? [17:49] i am trying to compile my first hello world program using cmake, it is giving me some error, is there a channel for kde programming? [17:50] Всем привет [17:50] maddin: there's a topic at the top off the page when you enter here - you should paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com [17:50] i am trying to compile my first hello world program using cmake, it is giving me some error, is there a channel for kde programming? [17:51] okay than putting it in like this? [17:53] phoenix_: there's #programming iirc [17:53] moetunes: ty [17:53] np [17:53] okay http://paste.ubuntu.com/408199/ [17:55] maddin: looks like it played ok - got no sound from it? [17:55] no [17:56] maddin: in konsole do alsamixer and is everything turned up? [17:57] turned up [17:57] if i press the sound controll buttons on my keyboard 100% [17:58] master 100% [17:58] in alsamixer [17:58] maddin: try pcm instead of master [17:59] Does anyone know of a way I can get an exact replica of my OS as a live cd(I actually want to load it on a pendrive), with all the software it has right now? [17:59] how can i change pcm-sound? [17:59] maddin: in the sound applet choose pcm not master [17:59] yes in alsamixer [17:59] and then [18:00] i tried to scroll it up [18:00] but nothin happens [18:00] a now [18:00] keyboard [18:00] pcm 100% [18:00] kay [18:00] vHanda: try bootcd [18:00] Why isnt jdownloader in the ubuntu/debian repos? [18:00] !info bootcd [18:01] bootcd (source: bootcd): run your system from cd without need for disks. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.15 (karmic), package size 72 kB, installed size 284 kB [18:01] moetunes: All right, thanks. I'll try it out. [18:02] moetunes: same error http://paste.ubuntu.com/408209/ [18:02] maddin: in konsole lspci and paste the sound card line [18:03] moetunes: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/408210/ [18:05] moetunes: soundcardline 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controlle [18:05] maddin: having a google now [18:08] maddin: search returned scratchy sound probs but not anyhting about it not working... [18:08] hi, i installed kubuntu 9.10. everything works ok, only problem i have is with lugitech bluetooth mouse, which is not recognized. What do i need to do to make it work? Any suggestions? [18:09] moetunes: that means [18:09] slavc: try this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup [18:10] maddin: I'm outta ideas - I never have sound issues so my debbuggung skills are limited there [18:10] moetunes: thx [18:10] np [18:18] moetunes: none of the suggested commands on that link show the mouse [18:18] slavc: sorry but apart from that link I know nothing about bluetooth [18:19] ciao [18:19] maybe someone else will speak up... [18:19] !list [18:19] This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot » [18:19] giacomo: try /list [18:20] moetunes: thx anyway [18:27] Hey folks. Im looking for some CPU temperature monitoring software for Kubuntu... thoughts? [18:28] !sensors > Hazamonzo [18:28] Hazamonzo, please see my private message [18:28] Thankyou! [18:29] _> hellu, i am at the gathering....... and i need to use dc++ i have downloaded it. but i dont know what i shall do.... can anyone help me? [18:33] kristoffer_: there is #programming iirc [18:34] how do i open it? [18:35] kristoffer_: /j #programming [18:35] kristoffer if it is not in your menu you mught have to restart [18:35] also dc++ did not work well for me. OI have kubuntu 64 but [18:35] so i had to use jucy dc++ === silvio is now known as xman [18:55] moetunes: i found the solution here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316358&highlight=toshiba+phoenix+bluetooth [18:56] now bluetooth is working [18:56] well done slavc :) [18:57] though the svn is now git, everything else working as said there === robin is now known as Guest76405 === WindPower_ is now known as WindPower === Ahmed is now known as Guest51174 [19:45] 'soir === ubuntu is now known as Ahmed\ [19:49] Hello [19:49] command apt-get clean doesnt work shows an error of permission denied ? WHY [19:50] Ahmed\: did you type sudo apt-get clean [19:50] oopsss [19:50] sorry :$ [19:50] hehe :) [19:51] doesn't work still tried by root too [19:51] hi, can anyone help me get my sound back in ubuntu? i exhausted all the advice on google for 2h now [19:52] i didn't get any error now but doesnt work either like stays there and thats it [19:52] then try sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb [19:53] rm: cannot remove `/var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb': No such file or directory [19:53] Ahmed\: dose "ls /var/cache/apt/archives/" give any output? [19:54] Oh GOD, thank GOODNESS James is here [19:54] Yeah its saying lock partial [19:54] :) [19:54] No such file or directory [19:55] nope ! [19:55] can anyone help out a bit? === robin is now known as Guest84744 [19:55] Ahmed\: and "ls /var/cache/apt/" ? [19:55] Ahmed\: than try to open that directory with your file manager [19:56] archives pkgcache.bin srcpkgcache.bin [19:57] Ahmed\: ... its looks like its there:S try "ls /var/cache/apt/archives" again [19:58] :~$ ls /var/cache/apt/archives [19:58] lock partial [19:59] Ahmed\: looks like it worked... why do you think "sudo apt-get clean" didnt work? [20:00] Cause James [20:00] it doesnt shows a thing i mean cause its nothing to clean [20:00] ? [20:01] apt-get clean dosn't output anything on success [20:01] like alot of nix commands [20:01] oh really @_@ [20:01] unix ^^ [20:01] But what does it remove ? [20:01] Ahmed\: all the *.deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives [20:02] unix now what exactly is Unix :) had enough of Linux im not gonna switch to WIndows ever again [20:02] but what are those files for ? [20:02] Ahmed\: they are the files that apt-get, aptitude or anyother packagemanagment program downloads before it installs them [20:02] so they are installers ? [20:02] and thats how you can remove it ? [20:03] Ahmed\: they contain the program and resources that the programs need, but you dont need the .deb once the program in installed [20:04] ohh [20:04] man i can't really install realplayer i tried a lot [20:04] Ahmed\: to remove a program you should use apt-get or aptitude (or other packagmanagment program) to remove them [20:04] installer broken i mean i am on 64 bit [20:05] BRB [20:07] Ahmed\: http://www.real.com/realplayer/linux <- download the DEB and when its done click on it in dolphin [20:08] okay wait [20:08] when I boot up, I always have to click on my desktop, and OK my desktop photo before it's visible. What's wrong? [20:08] i am on Gnome will i have to switch ? [20:08] Ahmed\: shouldn't you should be able to click on it in and file manager... [20:09] i have downloaded it [20:10] and those very same files [20:10] but should i try on dolphin ? [20:10] on KDE ? [20:10] dbc254: what version of kde are you using and what type of wall paper (image?) [20:10] Ahmed\: it doesn't matter what file manager you use... [20:11] but it always shows up broken [20:11] lets see [20:11] Ahmed\: I suggest dolphin because this is #kubuntu and its the default for most ppl, #ubuntu is for gnome [20:11] it's a .jpg of my motorcycle. and I'm using the latest-n-greatest. Just did and apt-get upgrade [20:11] James what's the best thing you finds in Linix :) lemme know that and WHY :) [20:12] dbc254: tell me the version anyway :) dont know if your on 4.3.x or 4.4.x :) [20:12] DOwnloaded realplayer [20:12] now what [20:12] um, how can I tell? [20:12] dbc254: any kde program -> help -> about kde [20:13] hello james [20:13] phoenix_: Hey [20:13] i have successfully installed vlc 1.0.5 [20:13] :) [20:14] JAMES i have downloaded [20:14] :) [20:14] Ahmed\: then click on it in a filemanager ... [20:14] whats that now [20:14] i mean gDebi / [20:14] ? [20:14] yes [20:14] 4.3.2 [20:15] Error: Wrong architecture 'i386' [20:15] same [20:15] hhhhhhhhhhh [20:15] sick of it [20:15] Ahmed\: What are you trying to do? [20:15] (I only just joined a minute ago) [20:15] trying to INSTALL REALPLAYER 11 deb [20:16] ok [20:16] i have installer but shows en error [20:16] Error: Wrong architecture 'i386' [20:16] dbc254: :) what type of wall paper are use useing? (right click desktop -> desktop (activity?) settings -> Wall paper -> "type") is image, slideshow or something? [20:16] Ahmed\: Are you using 32Bit or 64Bit Kubuntu? [20:17] 64 bit on Gnome KDE 4.4 [20:17] James I did that, but when I boot up, it's like my system has to be retold each time where my /home is??? [20:17] currently on Gnome [20:17] Ahmed\: You may have downloaded the wrong version of RealPlayer [20:17] hhhhhhhhh [20:17] I tried every version HUH three [20:17] Ahmed\: What do you want RealPlayer for anyway? ;) === jay is now known as Guest28567 [20:18] i like it so at least plays 3gp [20:18] HHHHHHHHHH [20:18] I have a soundclip set to play upon bootup also, but it doesn't work unless I click on my home directory. Then it loads those folders, and the sound plays. If I don't, no sound, and no desktop pic of my motorcycle [20:18] Ahmed\: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealPlayerInstallationMethods#64-bit RealPlayer [20:18] Ahmed\: 3gp? [20:18] Phone's format video :) [20:18] Ahmed\: ah ok [20:18] which recently turned into MP4 [20:19] dbc254: so you have it set to image (just trying to make sure) [20:19] Ahmed\: vlc should play 3gp [20:19] yes [20:19] Ahmed\: the link James147 gave you should be helpful... Though have you tried VLC? [20:20] i have VLC [20:20] yes it shows the same its for 32 bit HUH [20:20] Ahmed\: Did you install VLC with the package manager? [20:20] yeah [20:21] Ahmed\: Then it should be the correct version [20:21] dbc254: could you pastebin the contents of ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc [20:22] it says no realplayer for 64 [20:22] Ahmed\: VLC or MPlayer should play 3gp [20:22] yeah they do [20:22] NO VOICE [20:22] :) [20:23] Ahmed\: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [20:23] ? [20:23] it play but [20:23] no voice [20:23] Ahmed\: Do you get sound if you try to play videos on YouTube and things like that? [20:24] yeah it works so well fine i mean i have all videos and codecs well installed [20:24] Ahmed\: does anything produce sound? [20:24] mn [20:24] Ahmed\: Ok, just making sure you didn't have a different problem. [20:24] nm [20:25] !restricted [20:25] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [20:25] umm [20:25] james found the file, but how do you pastebin? [20:25] Ahmed\: have you followed those guides? [20:25] !pastebin | dbc254 [20:25] dbc254: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [20:25] I did like 3 times [20:26] HEY now i can see it on synaptic [20:26] lemme download [20:26] thanks guys that site helped [20:26] BRB [20:26] !pastebin | dbc254 [20:26] dbc254, please see my private message [20:27] Ahmed\: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178455 === eric is now known as Guest99847 [20:28] hey guys kubuntu .. does it like ATI Gfx adapters [20:29] Ahmed\: Looks like the link James147 just posted might do the trick. [20:29] ... [20:29] please [20:29] Back [20:30] yes it did help [20:30] i gotta install something to get thrid party softwares [20:30] not this but previous link [20:30] Guest99847: Dont think there are too many problems with the ati graphics cards, but I dont use them so cant be sure [20:35] dbc254: have to placed it on pastebin yet? [20:36] can't pastebin [20:36] dbc254: why not? [20:42] dbc254: you could try renaming it loging out and back in (will reset your desktop) then try changing the wallpaper and see if that works [20:58] hi [20:58] question about Broadcomm wi-fi drivers: I have a Dell Inspiron 1564. I have seen a few threads about it (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=948475) but I do not understand which packages I need to install. I tried bwcml-kernel-source, but I don't see that the laptop recognizes the wireless card. Can anyone help me? I'm using Kubuntu 10.04. Can anyone help me? [21:00] AngryRoey: Could try on #ubuntu+1 for lucid (10.04) [21:00] anyone know what the menue editer is called [21:01] Lord-Rahl: kmenueditor [21:01] thanks :) [21:01] LeeJunFan: kmenuedit sorry [21:01] LeeJunFan: sorry :) [21:02] James147, I'm there, thanks === ubuntu is now known as Ahmed\ [21:14] Is there is anything such as wavepad for ubunty ? [21:14] ubuntu [21:15] Ahmed\: Audacity [21:15] ? I have kde netbook remix how do i remove icons in the netbook plasmode [21:16] lemme try dude [21:16] this lookslike wavepad [21:17] :) [21:17] Ahmed\: also have a look at http://alternativeto.net/desktop/audacity/?platform=linux&sort=likes && http://www.osalt.com/ && http://www.linuxalt.com/ , they present lots of alternatives [21:17] Lord-Rahl: which icons? [21:17] kblue trimetraker under the Search and Launch setion [21:18] in the widgets [21:19] James i gotta question :) [21:19] Ahmed\: sorry, my comps seems to be crashing :s brb :p [21:21] OKa [21:21] Okay [21:22] better :) [21:22] ohh [21:22] welcome back [21:23] no takers [21:23] Lord-Rahl: the icons on the top of the search and launch screen? or one ones that apeare as you search for things? [21:25] not the fav menu if you do a fresh reboot you come to the main page it has Contacts, Bookmarks, Office so on.. Hoe do i remove like Contacts, Bookmarks [21:26] anything easier i mean sound editing software apart from audacity :) JAMES [21:28] Lord-Rahl: ahh, not sure about them :S [21:29] JAMES147: any software for sound editing just for editing :) [21:31] I have a problem with apt-get update - it wont connect - seems to want to connect to my local router..? can anyone here help me - have tried loads but dont want to clog up in here with it unless there's wiling help here... [21:32] try using it @root [21:33] hi [21:33] hi [21:33] roey [21:33] hola Ahmed\ [21:33] question about broadcomm wl driver: [21:33] I have it loaded [21:33] from bootup0 [21:33] *bootup [21:33] but when I try to 'scan' for networks with KDE's applet, [21:33] I get nothing [21:33] why? [21:33] tell me any good audio editor software like wavepad in windows [21:33] HUH [21:34] Ask James [21:34] James147: hi [21:34] Riddell: hola! [21:34] huh? [21:35] ? [21:35] is there a reason why apt-get update would be "unable to connect to 192.168.1.1" when trying to contact the repositories. I dont seem to have any proxy set up and no resolv.conf file... [21:36] roey_: when you run "iwlist wlan0 scan" dose it list anything (replace wlan0 with your device [21:36] ah one sec [21:36] James, Please tell me any good audio editing software @_@ [21:37] roey@aux:~$ iwlist eth1 scan [21:37] eth1 Interface doesn't support scanning. [21:37] hya guys, any one knows how to create a hotkey in kde to bring a prog to focus and in front? [21:37] James147: when I did iwconfig I saw 'eth1' listed there as an 802.11 devie [21:37] *device [21:37] is there a reason why apt-get update would be "unable to connect to 192.168.1.1" when trying to contact the repositories. I dont seem to have any proxy set up and no resolv.conf file... [21:37] sorry! [21:37] Ahmed\: I don't know that answer to everything, ask if I know I will say... if I don't answer assume i don't know [21:37] ahmed - audacity [21:37] Okay [21:37] Ahmed\: I already told you and provided you with the links necessary to find more [21:37] i have installed that any other please :) beside audacity [21:38] roey_: it could be eth1 :) [21:38] ok :) [21:38] James147: aight :) So what's the meaning of the return message I got? [21:39] eth1 Interface doesn't support scanning. [21:39] roey@aux:~$ sudo iwlist eth1 scan [21:39] eth1 Failed to read scan data : Invalid argument [21:39] ahmed ardour? [21:39] James147: tried it with sudo too, but got the above [21:39] zeltak: You can create a new hotkey or keyboard shortcut in System Settings > Computer Administration: Input Actions [21:41] roey_: whats the output of iwconfig? [21:41] !pastebin | roey_ [21:41] roey_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [21:42] thx Eruaran i did that but my problem is how to make it bring to front a specific program (amarok lets say) [21:42] i dont want to launch amarok again just make it focused and in front, is there a way to do that? [21:42] James147: http://pastebin.com/i5tHTXZc [21:43] James147: (disclaimer, I've been using linux since '98 ;) [21:43] roey_: :) [21:43] James147: (so you can talk to me freely) [21:43] :) [21:43] grr broadcom [21:44] zeltak: hmm [21:45] zeltak: I'd look in the window/app config > icon at extreme left of title bar [21:45] zeltak: click and go to advanced [21:46] hmmm ok but how can i bind such action? [21:46] zeltak: special application settings [21:46] zeltak: I dunno, but you can config Amarok to always be front an centre when you click on it in the system tray === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [21:47] yeah i know i just wanted to bind diffrent applications to different keys for quick acess but i guess thats complicated [21:47] thx anyway Eruaran for the help! [21:47] James147: so I gave the output... [21:48] zeltak: yeah I'm not sure... if there isn't a way, let one of the KDE devs know... surely there's a way to make a way even if there wasn't previously a way... :P [21:48] roey_: :S seen it, not entirly sure why it wont scan though [21:48] btw what does :S signify [21:48] hrmph [21:48] like that? [21:49] roey_: confusion mostly :p [21:49] kk thx Eruaran ill try the kde channel [21:49] James147: thanks for teaching me that :) [21:49] I need that [21:49] zeltak: Or just use alt+tab ;) [21:50] hehe alt-tab is to slow ;-0 [21:50] :O [21:50] lol [21:50] especially when you have like 20 progs open :) [21:50] ahah I see your point [21:53] zeltak: Alt+F3 in the application -> advanced -> Spical Application settings -> Preferences -> "Shoutcut" <<- that what you looking for>? [21:54] on sec [21:54] zeltak: dosent work when amarok is in the sys tray (and dosent ahve a window open) but will bring it to the front if it is open [21:54] hi mamarok [21:54] ltns [21:55] zeltak: I think I might have the answer... just a sec lemme test [21:55] yeah exactly what i wanted :) thx alot James147 [21:55] ahh shame about the amarok thing but works well with konsole :) [21:55] Eruaran: you have an alternative way? [21:56] zeltak: Also the krunner has a plugin that allows you to switch to opened windows by typeing their title [21:56] thx James147 but thats to cumbersome for me (plus i use kupfer..highly recommend it guys :)) [21:57] zeltak: nah use what James147 said :P [21:57] kk thx alot guys..appriciate it :) [21:58] ack [21:58] can't d0o this anymore [21:58] fuck broadcom [21:58] fuck nvidia\ [21:58] roey_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [21:58] zeltak: There is also a way to have a shortcut to Amarok if it is not open: right click Kickstart menu and choose menu editor... find Amarok and click the advanced tab... down the bottom you will see you can set a shortcut key [21:59] KDE is win [21:59] KDE = awesomeness [22:01] Riddell, when do you think canonical will devote more to making KDE a first-class citizen like GNOME? I keep hearing about how "much better" openSUSE is and I wonder what the difference is [22:01] KDE has papercuts [22:01] all over the place [22:01] that said [22:01] It's been my desktop for ten years now [22:01] I have used suse and Mandriva and Kubuntu, they are all pretty good [22:02] big differences i have found is the control centers and sources [22:02] people moan about kubuntu because ubuntu gets much more attantion but it's just a pretty standard kde install [22:02] Suse and Mandriva have had many years with their Yast and MCC to get them working good [22:03] I've been using Kubuntu since 2005. Canonical has never given it the love it deserves. The goodness in the latest version of Kubuntu is mostly thanks to the community, especially the KDE community. [22:03] I like kubuntu but this is infuriating: every instruction for ubuntu I find on the web gives you a click-through guide...FOR UBUNTU. There's no command-line admin guide (at least, they seldom appear near the top of Google's search results page). [22:03] Kubuntu is much like ubuntu that you sometimes have to go tweak conf files [22:04] I think Kubuntu is on the right track now [22:04] * ubuntu_ dislikes yast and mcc, centralised controlls always seam like a compromise, each tool should have it's own configuration tool (or not) rather than a 1/2 way mess of yast/etc === ubuntu_ is now known as RiotingPacifist [22:04] i do like the progress kubuntu is making between the last 2 versions [22:04] ok [22:04] I'm going [22:04] ciao [22:04] and thanks all [22:04] ^the above statement was mine nothing to do with ubuntu/canonical [22:04] roey_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [22:05] Some decisions made meant Kubuntu had a rough time last year but they were worthwhile in the long term. [22:05] Things like adopting KDE4 early on, and the switch to KPackageKit yield long term benefits. [22:05] can i use flgrx on a liveCD [22:06] I mean I like the Kubuntu devels (Jonathan riddell is great) and I just wish canonical would accord kubuntu some more importance than what I have seen in the past [22:06] ciao :) [22:06] ive used Mandriva for years so have gotten very used to mcc and rpmdrake, the suse platform is good just they differ from the RH platform enough that it takes me a while longer to find files that needed editing [22:06] roey_: Maybe if they make more money Canonical will give Jonathan Riddle a pay rise and a couple of helpers ;) [22:07] eristikophiles, is he the only kubuntu dev at canonical?? [22:07] roey_: why? kde gets a lot of plain upstream development, gnomes development is much more fragmented distro depended i don't see why canonical should do more, i mean shuttleworth is already a huge donator to KDE foundation [22:07] been playing with Kubuntu in vbox to check it out and learn it more [22:07] RiotingPacifist, there have been articles upon articles about this subject [22:08] anyway [22:08] RiotingPacifist has a good point. [22:08] roey_: I think he was the only kde specific dev a while ago, lower changes (network-manager, etc) are shared between DEs (ofc there are problems that they only test the changes against ubuntu not kubuntu, but thats a communication problem IMHO not a funding one) [22:08] RiotingPacifist, don't get me wrong, I am in love with kde, and I am happy that kubuntu exists [22:09] ah [22:09] I don't know about funding [22:09] it sometimes seems like Ubuntu proper is a completely different world [22:09] with its own GUI tools [22:10] and because of that, the procedures and methods illustrated in the on-line ubuntu guides don't necessarily map to kubuntu [22:12] I prefer kubuntu to stay closer to upstream, writing your own tools seams like a workaround when really improvements should be made upstream (but that is just my option) [22:12] that's not what I meant though; [22:13] like, [22:13] I [22:13] I acknowledge that gnome and kde have different ways of doing things. [22:13] I just want to see online guides for Kubuntu thatare as detailed as those for Ubuntu.; [22:13] because when all I have to go by are guides for Ubuntu, [22:14] it is *I* who has to map these procedures and methods back to my Kubuntu machine\ [22:14] anyway [22:14] fuck gnome. [22:14] ciao :) [22:14] roey_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [22:14] James147: Those advanced settings for windows and apps are awesome... I tried making a shortcut for Amarok and it works nicely [22:20] Eruaran: :D [22:24] James147, that update you gave me the other night, worked for me thank you [22:25] anyone use VLC? how can i use it to make a video or movie a wallpaper like i see on youtube? although its mostly windows videos the settings should be the same right preferences and setting up the wallpaper options... === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [22:29] zus: You mean like take a snapshot? [22:31] Eruaran, the back ground wallpaper was the movie..or video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo9s4aBLbCg&feature=related [22:31] like i said i know many of the videos are for windows but its vlc isnt that the same program as in linux? [22:34] i never knew vlc could even do that, windows or not its neat though. [22:34] zus: Oh i c what you mean [22:34] zus: Same program yes but DirectX applies to Windows only [22:35] zus: I'm just having a look at how the Linux version differs... [22:36] Eruaran, so with out directX the feature isnt available? me too im looking now [22:37] Eruaran, i dont have a playlist button up by tools, its in the dropdown menus though way in there but even still there certain options i aint got. [22:37] zus: I'm not sure, I'm looking at my VLC right now [22:39] i dont have anything to set as a wall paper [22:42] Eruaran, no biggie really would have been nice, as a eyecandy feature and a brilliant discovery. i rarely use vlc so i thought id look around in youtube on thigns about it [22:43] zus: Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLVSaqvshRc [22:43] Eruaran, brb watching it now [22:44] Eruaran, no audio or is it just me? [22:44] zus: KDE allows for different settings for your desktop activities, so its a feature that though not yet default in KDE is an easy plugin that allows you to set video as wallpaper in KDE... VLC doesn't need the feature on Linux it seems. [22:44] zus: I don't think the video has audio [22:45] zus: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/09/19/video-for-your-desktop/ [22:45] Eruaran, by activities you mean when i zoom out and the desktop opens to all four? thus having 4 (for a cube ) zooming out i can have 16 activites? [22:46] zus: yes, if you have a different activity set for each desktop [22:46] zus: which means in KDE you could have a different video playing for each desktop if you want to go crazy with it :P [22:47] Eruaran, brilliant! how do i set that? i'd rather the option of activities before i have animated wallpapers ) [22:47] * zus smiles wide [22:47] why did't i spend the last 4 months on kubuntu? [22:48] brb [22:48] zus: Go to System Settings > Desktop > Multiple Desktops [22:49] zus: Tick the checkbox which says "Different activity for each desktop" [22:50] zus: To quickly check its enabled, change your wallpaper and then zoom out your desktops - the one you changed should now have a different wallpaper than the others [22:57] Sorry, which was the name of the effect that lets you zoom out to see your desktops? === robin is now known as Guest31600 [22:59] I found it! Desktop grid... Thanx [23:01] hi, i know this is a not-kubutu question but i don't knwo where to turn for more information/help. [23:01] i use a isdn connection (with a billion isdn tiny usb modem) and it works fine for one computer. [23:01] the other computers can not use it so i wanted a isdn-router - they sold me a linksys wag120n. [23:01] the cover says ADSL but they asured me, that it can use isdn. i started to read about isdn, adsl and all this stuff, [23:01] but i got confused. [23:01] the_wave3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [23:01] what is this adsl-over-isdn? [23:07] Eruaran, now my widgets and stuff went away... [23:08] zus: on all desktops? or are they hiding on one? [23:09] Eruaran, never mind i see haha, neat... seems as if though my main desktop wasnt the one displayed after i clicked "different activity for each desktop" [23:11] zus: yeah sometimes you have to put those back but its cool [23:17] would anyone know why I don't get actual desktop effects from alt+tab? it just brings the next window to the top === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [23:19] larsivi: what kde version? [23:20] James147: 4.4.2 now, but I've had this issue with most 4.x installs I've had [23:21] larsivi: System settings -> Desktop -> Desktop effects -> General | Are effects enabled and what effect is under "Effects for window switching? [23:22] James147: yes, and I've tried them all :) [23:22] larsivi: Do other effects work? [23:22] James147: I had it working on one of my installs, and I have no idea what was different there [23:23] James147: shadows and highlighting of windows work fine at least, I'm not really into most of it [23:25] larsivi: hmm [23:25] James147: could this have something to do with the hardware driver I'm using? currently the xorg-something-ati (not fglrx since I'm on lucid) [23:25] larsivi: have you just been upgrading since you had this issue? [23:25] kde just told me I couldn't explode my windows for example [23:26] larsivi: possibally [23:26] is there a away of changeing desktop side? alt KP1 or alt KP2 etc? [23:26] James147: this is a new laptop, so I've only tried lucid on it sofar [23:26] zus: desktop side? [23:28] larsivi: is probally a driver issue if some of the other effects dont work, but i ma not sure, you could try #ubuntu+1 (for lucid) [23:30] James147, i change the 2 to 4 desktops for the cube... [23:31] zus: ok, but what are you trying to do? [23:34] James147, not use my mouse to change desktops [23:35] zus: ahh :) alt +F1... alt + F2 ... etc, you can change the keys in system settings -> Keyboard & mouse -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts [23:36] zus: ^^ kde compoent: KWin -- you can also set to a shutcut for "next desktop" (and previous) [23:36] zus: sorry, ctrl not alt [23:37] zus: ctrl + F1-N [23:39] James147, thanks. [23:41] James147, seems like ctrl f2 is where the main desktop is? when i hit ctrl f1 it changes and nothing i son it. [23:42] is that in fact the default ? [23:42] zus: your "main" desktop might be desktop 2? [23:43] zus: by default C^F1 will take you to the first desktop, C^F2 to the second [23:45] James147, i noticed that it'll be some getting used to then.