[01:12] <Muscovy> Does anyone know how to make changelogs that the update manager supports?
[01:14] <Muscovy> Anyone?
[01:26] <wgrant> Muscovy: You can't. At the moment update-manager is hard-coded to look at changelogs.ubuntu.com
[01:26] <wgrant> Muscovy: But Launchpad is currently gaining the ability to store changelogs itself. So we might be able to soon adjust update-manager to look at Launchpad instead.
[04:10] <Muscovy> I can't seem to apt-get source my packages?
[04:11] <wgrant> Muscovy: Have you added the deb-src line to sources.list?
[04:16] <Muscovy> Nope, only add-apt-ppa
[04:17] <wgrant> Muscovy: that doesn't add the deb-src line, so it makes sense that you cannot use apt-get source.
[04:19] <Muscovy> What's the line I need to add?
[04:20] <wgrant> Muscovy: The same as the line starting with 'deb', except with 'deb-src' instead of 'deb'.
[06:21] <dash> i'd like to add a feature to launchpad and i'm curious if anyone else has worked on or wanted this before:
[06:22] <dash> having a rel="me" link on a user's page so that social graph api stuff can pick up a launchpad profile as associated with a user in some other system
[06:22] <dash> in particular i'm thinking of Google Buzz.
[06:24] <wgrant> dash: I haven't seen that requested before. I'd start by filing a bug against launchpad-registry, and maybe asking #launchpad-dev during the American (or maybe European) working day next week if you want to work on it yourself.
[06:24] <dash> i figured i'd have a poke at it, launchpad can't be worse than any other giant python project ;)
[06:25] <idnar> I'd probably be interested in that
[06:25] <idnar> although I think there's a lot more work you'd need to do that to make that user's Launchpad activity usefully discoverable from the profile page
[06:25] <dash> idnar: not much
[06:25] <dash> idnar: there's already rss feeds there
[06:26] <wgrant> Useful activity feeds for projects and people are something that everyone has been wanting for a while.
[06:26] <dash> for bugs/branches/revisions
[06:26] <wgrant> It just hasn't happened yet.
[06:26] <dash> well. having another way to export them might catalyze that :)
[06:26] <idnar> dash: you can discover the feeds, but you can't really extract the data from them
[06:27] <idnar> they're just opaque items
[06:27] <dash> sure
[06:27] <idnar> but, yeah, it's a start
[06:27] <dash> that's enough to start with :)
[06:27] <dash> google buzz seemed useless to me until i realized it would pull in data from all over
[06:28] <idnar> I actually find the social graph stuff a lot more useful in search than in Buzz
[06:28] <dash> hm, how's it work in search
[06:30] <idnar> you get stuff like this: http://slipgate.za.net/~mithrandi/google-social-search.png
[06:30] <idnar> (or you can go use social explicitly, of course)
[06:30] <dash> huh yeah, i'm noticing that now
[07:27] <Andre_Gondim> I can't see this bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/553232
[07:29] <wgrant> Andre_Gondim: It contains no sensitive information, so I've made it public.
[07:30] <Andre_Gondim> wgrant, thanks ;)
[10:08] <vish> cold someone correct the link > http://blog.launchpad.net/maintenance  this is the one used in the yellow info
[10:08] <vish> could*
[10:10] <vish> ex: Bug 1
[10:10] <vish> Bug #1
[10:11] <vish> bleh , bot is no here too :s
[10:11] <wgrant> vish: There is a branch in proress to fix that, I believe
[10:11] <vish> wgrant: neat , ty
[11:09] <dolmen> the maintenance link currenlty at the top of LP is outdated
[11:09] <dolmen> I had to go through 3 redirect to view http://identi.ca/launchpadstatus
[11:09] <wgrant> dolmen: Yep, that's being fixed.
[11:21] <Lord-Readman> then is readonly mode going off?
[11:26] <nookie^> hi isn't it possible to view branches right now?
[12:32] <keffie_jayx> hello, is code hosting still in maintenance?
[12:54] <dolmen> I'm still not able to login on LP: Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad Login Service.
[12:54] <dolmen> (Error ID: 1553canistel47)
[12:55] <dolmen> I've not been able to login since tuesday (I didn't use my account for weeks before)
[12:55] <azop> keffie_jayx: it doesn't appear so
[12:56] <azop> keffie_jayx: mthaddon removed the readonly mode from the topic shortly before you arrived
[12:56] <keffie_jayx> azop: thanks. just my branch failed tio upload a couple times. thanks again
[12:57] <mthaddon> azop: does your email address have any unicode characters in it by any chance?
[12:57] <mthaddon> er, sorry, I mean same question for dolmen
[12:59] <salgado> mthaddon, how can I see the OOPS mentioned by dolmen?
[13:02] <mthaddon> salgado: I've pasted you a link
[13:02] <salgado> saw that, thanks
[13:07] <dolmen> mthaddon: no unicode in my e-mail. But unicode in my last name (Olivier Mengué)
[13:10] <dolmen> mthaddon, salgado: here my user page: https://launchpad.net/~dolmen
[13:12] <mthaddon> dolmen: I'm trying to find someone who might be able to help - the login service was recently split out from LP, so it's not really something LP devs can help with much any more I'm afraid
[13:12] <salgado> dolmen, where you trying to login to report a program crash?
[13:12] <salgado> s/where/were
[13:13] <dolmen> Not this time. But I tried several times in the previous days.
[13:14]  * dolmen is testing Xubuntu on an old ThinkPad T22 from his aunt
[13:17] <dolmen> mthaddon: so, who should I annoy for the login problem?
[13:17] <mthaddon> dolmen: we're working on it - should be able to let you know something either way before too long
[13:19] <dolmen> mthaddon: thanks
[14:10] <salgado> dolmen, you've logged in before, right?
[15:29] <mdeslaur> could someone take a look at OOPS-1553EB957
[15:31] <maxb> Err, something very odd is broken. I'm refreshing edge/builders and the page sometimes shows zero amd64 pending builds, sometimes ~35
[15:31] <maxb> Is it possible there's an appserver out there talking to a stale DB?
[15:33] <maxb> and following a link to a supposedly building build page shows it as "Starts in 3 hours"
[15:34] <maxb> It looks like LP has some kind of  split-brain situation going on
[15:34] <maxb> matsubara-afk: really afk?
[15:38] <dolmen> salgado: yes, I've logged in before: my account is 5 years old
[15:38] <salgado> dolmen, can you try resetting your password?  that should work now.  sorry for the inconvenience
[15:40] <maxb> Is there a LOSA around?
[15:47] <james_w> mdeslaur: bug 542274
[15:48] <mdeslaur> thanks james_w
[15:49] <dolmen> salgado:                                       Your login was unsuccessful       HTTP Response status from identity URL host is  not 200. Got status 404
[15:50] <dolmen> salgado: I've reset my password and I'm now authenticated on login.laucnhpad.net. But still not on http://launchpad.net
[15:51] <salgado> dolmen, and if you click on 'Login' on launchpad.net, it fails like that?
[15:51] <chex> maxb: hi there
[15:58] <Damascene> hello,
[15:58] <Damascene> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/106198
[15:59] <Damascene> is there any thing to add?
[16:02] <Traveler__> hi
[16:03] <Traveler__> cannot send bug reports, redirects me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[16:03] <Traveler__> I am already registered at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?start=75
[16:16] <dolmen> salgado: yes, it fails with that error: HTTP Response status from identity URL host is not 200. Got status 404
[16:17] <maxb> chex: Hi. I'm seeing the rather bizarre behaviour as I mentioned above. Namely that launchpad page requests seems to be randoly showing an up-to-date build status, or the status of the builds from a few hours ago.
[16:18] <maxb> For example if I load the Url https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+builds?build_state=pending 10 times, most cases return 497 results, but a couple return 777 results
[16:19] <maxb> The symptoms are as if some requests are being served from a lagged replication slave
[16:24] <salgado> dolmen, would you mind trying again?  might have been a time-related issue
[16:27] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, what on earth is going on with launchpad? i'm getting bug mail from people commenting on bugs, but when i try and view them on launchpad they are not shown
[16:30] <dolmen> salgado: login.lauchpad.net now says: "Your account has been deactivated"
[16:37] <salgado> dolmen, this is not fun, eh?  I'm getting someone to help sort this out
[17:30] <maxb> chex / other LOSA: Did you see my comments above?
[17:40] <chex> maxb: yes I did, was investigating what could be causing that
[19:08] <jcastro> deryck: ping
[19:08] <deryck> hi jcastro
[19:09] <jcastro> I have a question for you.
[19:09] <jcastro> so nigelbabu wants to run patch days
[19:10] <jcastro> and I was thinking, is it possible to run a query to get a list of projects with the most amount of patches attached?
[19:10] <jcastro> so we can basically figure out what's doomed the most.
[19:10] <jcastro> deryck: it doesn't have to be like a fancy page or something, just like a one off query we can run monthly or something
[19:10] <jcastro> enough to get us going
[19:11] <nigelbabu> jcastro, we have https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-reviewers/+subscribedbugs
[19:11] <jcastro> yeah but I also want ones that aren't subscribed
[19:11] <deryck> jcastro, something you guys can access on LP, or just ping someone on the bugs team to get the data for you is enough?
[19:11] <jcastro> just the data is fine
[19:12] <nigelbabu> ah :)
[19:12] <jcastro> I can trudge through it and stuff
[19:12] <jcastro> deryck: basically enough for us to go "oh we should concentrate on these 10 packages first" or something
[19:12] <deryck> jcastro, gotcha.  I can pastebin you something right now from staging, which could be a day or two old, but should be pretty close.  Sound cool?
[19:12] <jcastro> perfect!
[19:14] <deryck> jcastro, will take just a second as I work out a query by hand, but then should be simple to re-run when you need.
[19:15] <jcastro> deryck: no worries, just thought about it today so it's no rush
[19:16]  * deryck is kind of bored since it's sooooo quiet with everyone gone
[19:16] <deryck> might as well query
[19:18] <nigelbabu> deryck, thank you :)
[19:19] <deryck> nigelbabu, np
[19:28] <fta> where can i see the status of an upload waiting for approval? the link i got in the email is broken
[19:29] <fta> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/chromium-browser/5.0.342.7~r42476-0ubuntu1
[19:33] <deryck> for those playing along at home, here's the query I'm using:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/408245/
[19:37] <deryck> jcastro, nigelbabu -- http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/408246/  That sort of thing work for you guys?
[19:37] <nigelbabu> deryck, definitely :)
[19:38] <deryck> cool.
[19:38] <Zarathoustra> Hi
[19:40] <Zarathoustra> I'm trying to create an account on launchpad since three days but I always get an error when I try to enter my new password.
[19:40] <jcastro> deryck: awesome, thanks!
[19:40] <Zarathoustra>  Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad Login Service.
[19:40] <Zarathoustra> We’ve recorded what happened, and we’ll fix it as soon as possible. Apologies for the inconvenience.
[19:40] <Zarathoustra> (Error ID: 1553canistel117)
[19:40] <deryck> jcastro, np!
[19:41] <deryck> Zarathoustra, is there an OOPS id anywhere on the error page?  Should be of the form OOPS-XXXX where XXX is unique each time.
[19:41] <deryck> heh
[19:41] <Zarathoustra> Does somebody know what is the problem ?
[19:41] <deryck> Zarathoustra, see my question to you in the scrollback.
[19:42] <Zarathoustra> deryck: just Oops!
[19:42] <jcastro> deryck: hey wait a minute. ;)
[19:42] <jcastro> deryck: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clamav/+patches
[19:42] <jcastro> but the query says 268?
[19:42] <deryck> hmmm
[19:42] <nigelbabu> deryck, did you take fix Released status too for the count?
[19:42] <deryck> oh, yeah, crap.
[19:43] <deryck> jcastro, nigelbabu -- my stupidity, sorry.  I didn't filter on status.
[19:43] <deryck> let me try again. :-)
[19:43] <jcastro> oh, that would be 268 patches ever?
[19:43] <nigelbabu> hehe
[19:44] <deryck> jcastro, nigelbabu -- so you just want open bugs then counted?  i.e. filter out  WONTFIX, INVALID, FIXRELEASED ?
[19:44] <jcastro> deryck: yes please
[19:44] <jcastro> sorry I wasn't clear before
[19:44] <deryck> jcastro, no, that should be obvious.  I was stupid. :-)
[19:44] <nigelbabu> yep
[19:46] <nigelbabu> btw, to date clamav has only had 163 bugs, so 268 patches sounds wrong
[19:46] <nigelbabu> 163 bugs in all statuses
[19:47] <deryck> nigelbabu, ok, I can run a second simpler query to confirm data here in a second.
[19:47] <nigelbabu> oh cool :)
[19:47] <deryck> nigelbabu, jcastro -- I'm assuming we don't care about FIXCOMMITTED either?
[19:48] <nigelbabu> can you have that separate if possible?
[19:48] <Zarathoustra> deryck: any idea about my problem?
[19:48] <nigelbabu> in some package sets it has a meaning
[19:48] <nigelbabu> Zarathoustra, did you find an oops?
[19:48] <nigelbabu> i.e. oops ID
[19:49] <Zarathoustra> no oops ID
[19:49] <deryck> nigelbabu, sure, I can do that one separate.
[19:49] <Zarathoustra> Just "Oops" as the first word in the html page
[19:49] <nigelbabu> thanks :)
[19:50] <deryck> Zarathoustra, without an OOPS, I don't think I can help.  maybe sinzui might be able to figure it out.
[19:50] <deryck> hmm, yeah, so there must be some other field I need to filter on.  numbers seem high from what we show on LP.
[19:51] <Zarathoustra> at the end of the page, there is "(Error ID: 1553canistel117) "
[19:51] <sinzui> Zarathoustra, try using login.ubuntu.com, the real SSO service.
[19:51] <Zarathoustra> ok, I'll try
[19:52] <nigelbabu> deryck, how much of a difference?
[19:54] <deryck> nigelbabu, just looking at samba, I get 42 in my chart and 5 on the +patches view.
[19:54] <nigelbabu> ouch, thats too much, lemme take a look at samba
[19:54] <Zarathoustra> sinzui: my try failed  ;(
[19:54] <Zarathoustra> sinzui: (Error ID: 1553carambola20)
[19:55] <sinzui> okay, so we know this is actually a problem with SSO, not launchpad
[19:55]  * sinzui think who knows how to diagnose SSO issues
[19:56] <sinzui> Zarathoustra you are https://launchpad.net/~herrsergio ?
[19:56]  * sinzui likes the monkey
[19:56] <Zarathoustra> no
[19:56] <Zarathoustra> I have no account yet
[19:57] <Zarathoustra> Ok ;-)
[19:57] <Zarathoustra> I understand your question
[19:58] <sinzui> Zarathoustra, okay, so this is definitely about Ubuntu's SSO. have you received the email that had the registration URL?
[19:58] <Zarathoustra> Yes, of course
[19:58] <salgado> Zarathoustra, do you use accented characters on your password, by any chance?
[19:58] <nigelbabu> deryck, I'd say the fix released is still not filtered out
[19:59] <Zarathoustra> salgado: no, just ascii
[19:59] <Zarathoustra> all letters uppercase
[20:01] <salgado> Zarathoustra, do you have an OOPS ID from an earlier attempt?
[20:01] <Zarathoustra> salgado: no
[20:01] <deryck> nigelbabu, I got it now.  needed to limit by distribution, too.
[20:02] <nigelbabu> deryck, aha :)
[20:03] <salgado> Zarathoustra, ok, I'm getting someone to get me the logs. hopefully that'll give me a clue on how to workaround the problem
[20:03] <deryck> hmmm, ok, so still off a bit from +patches.  but very close. :-)
[20:03]  * deryck looks at schema again
[20:04] <nigelbabu> well, we're getting closer than before :)
[20:04] <Zarathoustra> salgado: logs of the registration service ?
[20:05] <salgado> Zarathoustra, yes, the error logs
[20:06] <Zarathoustra> salgado: do I need to stay on the channel? Can you get my email address in the logs?
[20:08] <salgado> hi phanatic
[20:08] <deryck> ah, dupes
[20:08] <phanatic> hi salgado, how can i help?
[20:08] <salgado> so, Zarathoustra is having problems registering an account: the OOPS ID is 1553carambola20
[20:09]  * phanatic looks
[20:09] <deryck> nigelbabu, I think there difference now is the +patches view filters dupes, and I'm including them.  You want me to filter them out too?
[20:09] <deryck> jcastro, ^^
[20:09] <nigelbabu> please do :)
[20:10] <Zarathoustra> phanatic: the last is 1553canistel123
[20:11] <phanatic> Zarathoustra: the first one has no detailed informations unfortunately, and the latter wasn't synced to our web interface yet. i'll ask for a manual sync to check it out.
[20:12] <salgado> phanatic, I can see the second one
[20:12] <zyga> any u1 music store devs around?
[20:13] <jcastro> zyga: see #u1msbeta
[20:13] <zyga> thanks
[20:13] <deryck> nigelbabu, jcastro -- now we have a pretty accurate list, I think.  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/408255/
[20:14] <jcastro> that one makes way more sense
[20:14]  * nigelbabu points to kernel team
[20:14] <nigelbabu> I think we can leave kernel and xorg bugs to the respective teams
[20:15] <jcastro> yeah, they're always doomed
[20:15] <jcastro> still, plenty of apps on there where normal people can dive in
[20:15] <jcastro> deryck: thanks!
[20:15] <deryck> jcastro, you're weclome!
[20:15] <nigelbabu> deryck, hugs and beer when we meet :D
[20:15] <deryck> nigelbabu, :-)
[20:16] <alexmoldovan> Hello folks, can you tell me if I can erase one of the project from "Affects" from one of my bugs?
[20:17] <phanatic> Zarathoustra: sync is in progress, i hope you can stay around for a little while (ca. 15 minutes)
[20:17] <deryck> alexmoldovan, no.  you can set the task invalid or re-assign to the null project if you need to get rid of the bug mail noise.
[20:17] <alexmoldovan> thanks
[20:18] <Zarathoustra> phanatic: I can wait, what I have to do after?
[20:19] <phanatic> Zarathoustra: hopefully i'll have more information by then about the problem that prevented you from registering
[20:19] <Zarathoustra> phanatic: ok, I wait unil you ping me
[20:19] <Zarathoustra> s/unil/until
[20:20] <phanatic> Zarathoustra: thank you
[20:20] <Zarathoustra> phanatic: no, thanks you ;-)
[20:23] <deryck> I'm out.  Later on, all...
[20:27] <phanatic> Zarathoustra: the problem seems to be that according to the database you don't have any preferred email address set, and apparently we don't handle that scenario gracefully :(
[20:28] <Zarathoustra> phanatic: I just try to create an account
[20:28] <Zarathoustra> phanatic: when I register my email address, I get the following mail:
[20:28] <phanatic> Zarathoustra: the second oops happened on the reset password url
[20:29] <Zarathoustra> We've received a request to create a new account with your email address.
[20:29] <Zarathoustra> If this was you, perhaps you've forgotten your password?
[20:29] <Zarathoustra>     https://login.launchpad.net/+forgot_password
[20:30] <phanatic> Zarathoustra: when you want to register a new account?
[20:31] <Zarathoustra> I tried several days ago
[20:31] <phanatic> was it completed?
[20:32] <Zarathoustra> My first try was wednesday, probably not completed, I received the same email I pasted
[20:33] <Zarathoustra> as the first mail from launchpad
[20:33] <phanatic> Zarathoustra: if you receive this mail, it means you have already been registered with this email address
[20:33] <phanatic> your registration is probably stuck somehow
[20:33] <phanatic> let me try to unstuck it :)
[20:34] <Zarathoustra> phanatic: sure, I let you! ;-)
[22:04] <Zarathoustra> Well... Thank to everybody who tried to help me
[22:05] <Zarathoustra> MANY thanks to phanatic !
[22:05] <Zarathoustra> Bye